What About A Book On The Dark Days?

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[00:00:19]Now, what I am specifically talking about you can tell by the title. I'm talking about the Dark Days. Now, I have all of my notes here. I think this video will end up seeing what I actually do, but it might be a quicker video than usual because my notes are pretty like easy to get through. I don't have a whole lot of quotes. I don't think I have any quotes actually. I have some like evidence from the text that maybe this book could happen. But yeah, I'm talking about the Dark Days today and I usually talk about like the idea of maybe another prequel book happening.

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[00:01:41]So, definitely subscribe but without further ado, let's get into the topic of the Dark Days. Now, the Dark Days, there are a lot of things that we do and don't know about the Dark Days. Now, the Dark Days I believe it was a war that lasted 3 years and during those 3 years, we got a lot of information about like the Dark Days from Coriolanus Snow and what the effects on the capital were. When it comes to the Dark Days and a book on it, I'm not entirely sold on the idea of a book, but I think there could be potential, you know, about a book around the Dark Days or potentially before. So, we're going to talk a little bit about both of those ideas today. So, I know in the fandom, a lot of people are quite convinced there's going to be another novel that comes out. People are always saying like, "Suzanne Collins likes working in threes." I'm not entirely convinced about that idea when it comes to Suzanne Collins like writing in threes. I have seen some bits and pieces of evidence that I'm like, "Okay, I can see where the idea is coming from." But people are saying like she likes writing trilogies. Now, that's not true. As far as I know in the research that I've done, I believe that the original trilogy, that's a trilogy. Obviously, there's three books there. It's called the original trilogy. But I think with her other I don't remember what it's called. Her other series that's like a fantasy novel series, that I believe is a quartet novel series. So, that's four books. That's from my research what I and what I can remember, I remember seeing like seeing all the fandom talking about how she likes to write in threes and I'm like, "Is that true?" No, the the fandom likes making things up to kind of like go with their ideas and it leads to a lot of the fandom believing certain things about a potential like a potential another book or potentially like other things that are true. Like there's one thing in the fandom at the moment that's like, "Oh, like The Hunger Games started in 2026." And there's no proof of that. There's no proof of any year being when The Hunger Games started. We don't have any like exact date. They actually tell the date in The Hunger Games by what year of The Hunger Games it is and what year of the Dark Days it was. We don't get any information other than that about how they tell time and what year it is.

[00:03:51]Especially not how they told the time and what year it was before the dark days. So, we don't know exactly what year it is. We can only really say that there's like parallels there with our world pertaining to like what technologies we see. But, it's supposed to be a dystopian world that reflects back to us the worst qualities that we have as a human race and globally what has happened like politically and technologically. Another one I saw around the time of The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes coming out as well like the book end of movie was the fact that the fandom was really convinced that Suzanne Collins confirmed in an in in an interview that Lucy Gray was Katniss's grandmother or Lucy Gray was alive or something like that. And I went looking for the interview and it doesn't exist. So, there's this big conspiracy in the fandom and or at least like in one part of the fandom. Or, I haven't seen it in a really long time this theory about Lucy Gray being Katniss's grandmother especially since Sunrise on the Reaping has essentially debunked that. But, the fandom makes up things and everyone just rolls with it. So, there's no interview confirming anything about Lucy Gray from Suzanne Collins because that would essentially be taking away the idea of Lucy Gray's ending being ambiguous. It's supposed to be like William Wordsworth's poem being ambiguous. Like, we're not supposed to know what happened to Lucy Gray. And in any interview where Suzanne Collins confirms or denies what happened to Lucy Gray would be taking away from the meaning of her own novel which is something Suzanne Collins from what we can tell after she's published each of her novels, she doesn't want us she doesn't want to do that. She doesn't want us to have like an idea of exactly something that happens. Like, she's put so much information and world building into her novels that I assume from the fact that she stays quiet about it that she wants us to analyze the novels in a way that we want to interpret it. Like, we interpret it in a bunch of different ways. There's a a of different ways to interpret the text. So, as well as not just with like Lucy Gray or anything to do with the dark days like with this video, she wants Suzanne Collins wants us in in its entirety for the novel series to interpret it however we see fit and analyze the novel series in a way that reflects our real world and essentially create our own opinions on the real world because that's what a young adult novel does. And when it comes to interpreting the novel with our own meanings and developing our own opinions on like the social, political, space, that whole thing. Then any new novel that comes out has to essentially have those similar themes that it has to be this young adult novel and that has to have a young adult protagonist. It has to add to the world building of the Hunger Games world and Panem and it has to reflect the real world so we can base our opinions as young adults, you know, like I'm not really a young adult anymore. I'm turning 23 at the end of this month so I'm kind of more in the new adult range but as young adults and new adults and adults, honestly, if you want to if you're a millennial who read the Hunger Games when you were younger, like you're supposed to read the Hunger Games and it's supposed to teach you how to form your opinions on the political landscape. It's not exactly telling you how to base your opinions even though Suzanne Collins does have a very obvious standpoint when it comes to her novel.

[00:07:05]She's her novels kind of are left leaning. No, they're definitely left leaning from what we can tell but at the same time these novels are encouraging us to reflect on the world around us and base our own opinions on what's happening around us, how it affects us, and how it affects other people. So, Katniss as a protagonist, Haymitch as a protagonist, they're supposed to teach us who we are and how to see ourselves in the world amongst other people and have empathy for other people. That's essentially what a young adult novel is doing. It's supposed to help raise you and like raise your mindset in a way when you're young and impressionable, especially when it comes to Coriolanus Snow and him talking about the dark days. It's supposed to teach us how war can affect people and affect young adults if they're raised in an environment like that. So, we're supposed to see Coriolanus Snow and the effects of how he is as a protagonist, even though he's the antagonist of Katniss and Haymitch's story. Him as a protagonist, not necessarily a hero, but maybe a hero in his own version that we're supposed to see the dark days as this particular way that people can be raised in the real world in a war-torn country. So, a book on the dark days, it's kind of already happened, but at the same time I think there are still things that we could have answered that could potentially go into a book about the dark days specifically rather than just like Tigris and Snow running around in the dark days in a war-torn capital from Panem and seeing just a little snippet of the dark days that maybe there are still other questions we have, potentially maybe questions that are leading into the dark days and how the districts rebelled against the oppressive system. What questions do we have about the dark days? Now, I have a list of just like four questions that I think are kind of are just like the overarching questions that I've thought of. Maybe we have more questions. If you guys want to put it down in the comment section down below about what questions you might have about the dark days, what questions you might have about maybe the founding of Panem and what led up to the dark days, that'd be very interesting to discuss. As well, I've discussed it in previous videos about the heavensbees about potentially who founded Panem and what led up to the dark days and how the districts were functioning before we see like through Coriolanus, Haymitch, and Katniss's time. That idea then leads us to the very first question that I personally have. How were the districts oppressed before? I am curious to know if the districts were oppressed.

[00:09:30]Obviously, they were, otherwise they wouldn't have held a rebellion during the dark days. If we know from kind of like context clues and reading in between the lines, the districts were not as oppressed before the dark days that as they compared to what they were during the years of the Hunger Games, all those 75 years. It got It got a lot worse because the capital could only maintain their power and oppression over the districts if they maintained a bigger level of security and oppression over them than they did before the dark days because they had to add more security to ensure that the war didn't repeat itself, which is how they ended up with the Hunger Games. The Hunger Games was a new way to oppress the districts that they didn't have before because they didn't necessarily The capital didn't necessarily need something like that before. So, the Hunger Games were new. And another thing that we for sure know was new is how isolated each of the districts were. So, we know that once the dark days were over, they herded everyone, and we know this because of the Corvey. They herded everyone into the districts, each of the districts, and there also abandoned towns that Snow sees in the ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. They had bombed out towns that they rounded up people away from and into smaller areas of the districts. So, the Corvey wasn't allowed to travel between districts anymore. So, we know that the districts before the time of the dark days were able to travel between the districts. Whether or not it was difficult is another story just because of the level of oppression.

[00:10:55]We We're not entirely sure how much oppression they had, so they might not have been able to afford to leave the district and leave their homes when they were really focused on just surviving, paying their bills, working their jobs.

[00:11:07]So, we know that there was quite a big change between the oppression. We know when it comes to with districts like District 11, there's a huge amount of security and peacekeepers around District 11 that even Katniss and Peeta are shocked by when they're on their victory tour. Now, District 11, I think they have like really tall fences. I think it's depicted a little bit differently in the movies than it's described in the books, but I think there's like large barbed wires at the top of their fences. Like it's impossible to climb over the fence. The fences are a lot larger than they were in District 12. And in District 11, there's a bunch of peacekeepers around the borders for security like that. And obviously, the fences are quite tall. Even in the movies, Katniss and Peeta are quite shocked about the amount of security that is around District 11. So, we know likely that it wasn't that Well, we can almost entirely confirm that it wasn't that it wasn't that level of security before the Dark Days. They added that in order to keep them inside the confines of each of their districts, inside of District 11 in this example. But we don't exactly know what it was like between each of the districts, how much freedom they had to move between each of the districts either. Which brings me to my next question. How easy was it to move between districts? We know that they were capable of moving between districts. In particular, the Covey.

[00:12:26]Now, they were able to move because they they essentially didn't have like a settled home. So, they moved amongst each of the districts. They traveled.

[00:12:34]That was their whole thing. Now, people who had houses, we don't know how easy it was. I essentially like in some way answered my question. When it comes to the oppression of the districts, we we couldn't assume that they were oppressed to the point that they were working all of the time and in order to just to pay bills. So, they weren't exactly able to save to move to another district, to another house, to another region across the country. That it wasn't necessarily impossible physically, but it was impossible financially. Then I also have a question, what was life like before the Dark Days? Now, life we don't know.

[00:13:08]I am curious personally to know what life the lifestyle was like. Would we if we were to potentially get a book about the Dark Days, would we be seeing what the lifestyle was from the perspective of someone in the districts or would we potentially see maybe another like The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes time novel where we're seeing a perspective from a Capitol person? And we're going to get to that, like, the perspective at the end of this video, potentially what perspective the doctor's novel could be from. But, either way, we'd be seeing a completely different lifestyle because, as we've discussed in the rest of this video, what we don't know is exactly what was happening in the lead-up to the Dark Days, and what kind of oppression they had, what were the finances like, what were the resources like, how were each of the resources dispersed amongst the districts and the capital. I would love to know what the holding of wealth looked like within the capital. I think that'd be really interesting to see and make a comparison between the holding of wealth before the Dark Days and holding of wealth after the Dark Days because it's a lot easier for the capital, at least for my opinion, to hoard the wealth from the districts since they're each isolated in their own little areas, and they're not able to move. They can't move to the capital. The Covey can't move to and from, so it meant that people couldn't move to the capital and make a better lives for themselves. So, if they can't make a better life, if they can't, like, scrape by with, like, and scrape up a little bit of savings to move to a different district and, like, improve themselves and get into different types of jobs. When we see, like, say, from District 13 Not 13. Why did I say 13? District 12. From District 12, we can actually see that it's that you have to go into a certain profession depending on what your family is doing.

[00:14:46]So, because there's like such limited options for jobs. Before the Dark Days, was there less limits to what jobs you could do? Was it looking more like how our world looks? Like, there's a lot of hoarding of wealth in our world, especially from billionaires, which is disgusting. But, at the same time, we see, like, as an example for this video, we see it in our real world that we can move to and from jobs. It's difficult because of the the economy and financial situations depending on who you are, what your family upbringing is like, as well. You can move to and from jobs. You can get an education. You can get a higher education from university or some sort of trade school, and you can do all of that and improve yourself so you can get into a better better financial position. But, we still see a lot of holding of wealth, and it's incredibly difficult to support yourself financially still in our world. So, is it a similar oppression that we're seeing in our world as well, but you still have some freedoms, freedom of speech, freedom to move jobs, where we see in the time of The Hunger Games that they don't have those freedoms. So, they were oppressed even further. So, what is the difference in lifestyles before the dark days and during the dark days?

[00:15:54]Like, I would love to see that. The last question I have in this section is the Covey massacre and potentially other Covey members being in other districts.

[00:16:02]That's one thing that I've always been curious about is who are like the Covey as a whole, not just the Covey in District 12. We've discussed on this channel in the past potentially maybe there being other Covey members, other civilizations outside Panem. And I think that the Covey story still has a lot to tell. And I don't know, maybe Suzanne Collins disagrees with me, but I feel like there are a lot of things about the Covey that could be expanded upon, maybe they're in different districts, maybe there are factions that split off from one another, and we only see the faction from District 12. I think it'd be really interesting to find out more about the Covey in a book that predates The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, either that being the dark days or before then. And the reason I put the Covey massacre down is maybe we see a character who was actually killed during the time that they were rounding them up into District 12. And we'll get more into the perspective that I think that could be told from, but we could see like how exactly the Covey was living and why District 12 directly targeted them.

[00:17:02]Obviously, they wanted to round them up into District 12, but why did they have to kill people rather than just like shoving them into the district? I think that'd be really interesting to we I think it'd just be interesting as a whole to learn more about of Covey.

[00:17:15]Reasons for a dark days novel. I think there are a few things that could potentially be told during the Dark Days or potentially before the Dark Days, like the at the time right before the Dark Days. I think first of all to answer our questions, I have already presented you guys with a bunch of questions that I have to do with the Dark Days and Panem before the Dark Days, what led up to the what oppression there was that led up to the Dark Days rebellion. And also, I think it would be good to showcase how the rebellion what this particular rebellion helped with building up to the second rebellion that we see during Katniss's time, during like the 75th/ you know, 76th rebellion that was ultimately successful against the capital and they overthrew Snow and the oppressive regime that was a part of the capital. And I think it'd be really interesting since when we see in Sunrise on the Reaping, the 50th games, that there were building blocks that led up to the rebellion that they had during Katniss's time. So, there's definitely building blocks there. And Plutarch even has this line about how they're always building on the last person's attempt to add a rebellion, and it mean doesn't mean that it was ultimately failure, that it just means that they're one step closer every time, and that maybe it it just it takes longer and maybe they won't see it in their lifetime. And the people who rebelled during the Dark Days, they didn't necessarily see during their lifetime a rebellion that was successful, but that doesn't mean they weren't building blocks during that rebellion that ultimately meant the second rebellion during Katniss's time was successful. So, I would like to see building blocks from a time period where people didn't get to like reap the benefits of a free Panem. I think it would be really interesting to see a perspective prior the Dark Days or maybe just the Dark Days and what that whole rebellion, like the period I think like the Dark Days didn't necessarily weren't the only period of rebellion.

[00:19:06]Potentially there was things leading up to it and I I can almost guarantee you there were things leading up to that rebellion. And I think it'd be really interesting to see that lead up in the building blocks from someone who just wasn't able to see the benefits of like the free Panem and how the face of the rebellion was kind of someone who didn't live all the way to that. Someone who was potentially, you know, like a teenager or 20s or 30s. You know, we wouldn't see like from directly from a perspective of someone who was in their 20s or 30s since it's a young adult novel. We'll get a teenage protagonist.

[00:19:38]But someone who wasn't going to live all the way to the end of the 75th Games or the 76th Games as one could call it as the rebellion. So, there's someone who during the Dark Days was living and seeing it and potentially even helping with the rebellion. Maybe if they were young enough as a teenager, maybe they weren't or we can see other characters from the teenage perspective who wasn't going and who was trying to create a better future for the teenager. And but wasn't able to actually see the second rebellion. I think a novel on the Dark Days or right before the Dark Days would be a really good opportunity to show more of District 13's law. Since we know that District 13 was living above ground during this period of time and they had This is where the districts got their large military force to attack the capital because they turned against them and used that force against them. And I think that seeing more about District 13 would be really interesting especially before they went underground and potentially them being above the surface and all of that law and how that led to how they act underground when we find them after the 75th Games. Once again, that idea of building blocks. If we see more of District 13's law, there could be building blocks placed there by Suzanne Collins that led to the way that they act by the time of the second rebellion. And I think that would be very interesting to get a perspective on District 13 and have more world building since we know of actually very little about District 13. So, I think it'd just be very interesting to see more about the lifestyle that was going on around District 13 around the time of the Dark Days, and maybe even before that, during their time as an actual district that was a part of Panem. What I've written down in my notes for the last bit of this section is essentially, however, The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes is kind of our Dark Days novel as we hear from Snow how the war was and its long-term effects. So, I think that when it comes to like reasons for a Dark Days novel, that we have a lot of reasons to hear more about Panem before the time of the Hunger Games, but not necessarily exactly the 3 years of the Dark Days.

[00:21:39]That if we were to get a perspective on that novel, that it'd be good to hear from the districts in particular, maybe even District 13, since it would answer a lot of the questions we have of that time period and how the lifestyle was before the Hunger Games started in that time period. But, we hear about the Dark Days. So, when it comes to Suzanne Collins actually having motivation and reason to write a novel about the Dark Days, she's kind of already like given us information about that, the rebellion and the effects from the rebellion, we see it from Coriolanus Snow's perspective. It's just the capital perspective, it's not a district perspective, but it's a perspective nonetheless. Like, she's not going to overexplain a period of time from Panem to us. So, she's given us bits and pieces, and we're we as the reader, we're supposed to fill in the blanks there. So, when it comes to Coriolanus Snow telling us a little bit about the Dark Days, that's kind of Suzanne Collins telling us, "This is what happened during the Dark Days. These are the long-term effects. These are the building blocks to what happened by the time of Katniss's Hunger Games time period." So, when it comes to, once again, Coriolanus Snow telling us about the Hunger Games and his time period and how the Hunger Games is affected by the Dark Days, and his experience of a war-torn capital and Panem, we're seeing a lot of how the capital was starving, there's a lot of resources, and by the 10th Hunger Game or like not a lot of resources, by the time of the 10th Hunger Games, they're only just starting to build back from a war, and he's really seeing the consequences of a war by this time period. So, I've said like time period so many times in this video already, but Coriolanus Snow, before he becomes President Snow, he has had a lot of experiences of war, and a Dark Days novel would be that experience of war, but we've seen it already. So, I think that the Dark Days specifically might not work as a novel, and I don't think I don't I personally don't see Suzanne Collins specifically writing about that 3-year time period. Rather, I actually see her writing about a time period that led up to the Dark Days, rather than the Dark Days themselves. Whose perspective would the novel be from? Adding to my last point about the novel potentially not being exactly about the Dark Days, rather leading up to the Dark Days, that means that we need someone who is alive and a teenager before the Dark Days. So, it'd be quite some time before the Dark Days, maybe like right before the Dark Days started, and how the rebellion eventually built over time. So, it would have to be like to be a completely new story, it can't be the Dark Days exactly, it can't be that 3-year time period, it has to be before that. I have three potential perspectives that it could be from. First of all, this This is one of the ones that I think that I would be most interested in, and I've mentioned it in previous videos about the Heavensbees. It would have to be a Heavensbee perspective, because I want to know the perspective of a protagonist that had wealth and wasn't sitting in poverty like the other three protagonists. We've seen stories from them and the poverty that they had. I want to see a perspective of someone who feels oppressed under the regime of the Capitol and in Panem, but they had wealth. So, their oppression wasn't seen in this poverty and oppression and survival like always living in survival mode, rather their oppression is coming from the lack of freedom of speech that they have, the lack of freedom to read whatever they want, talk in a way that they want with democracy like we see with Plutarch Heavensbee that he wants freedom to talk about whatever he wants, act in however he wants in a way that like he can be well-read and act on all the things he's reading in all these novels. He's reading about things like democracy and he wants to act on that.

[00:25:16]He wants to live under democracy because that's how he wants to have That's how he sees the freedom he wants. So, someone who has wealth like Plutarch had enormous amounts of wealth. Hilarius Heavensbee had enormous amounts of wealth as we see from the text like he he is what is described as the Heavensbees are described as ultra-rich by Snow. So, they have these like every opportunity to not feel oppressed but they still feel oppressed and I would love a perspective from the Heavensbees that where they feel oppressed in the time before the dark days because the Capitol had to be oppressing all of its citizens even if it wasn't just the districts in some way they had to have been oppressing them and they didn't have like freedom of speech before the Hunger Games even started in that time period before that all everything we see from the Hunger Games novels before that started. They had to be oppressing them in some way unless that was before they started you know doing things like burning books you didn't have freedom of speech. There was no use for anything other than basic math and reading skills like Katniss describes that's what they're taught in school is really basic math and English skills and then they're told about like the Capitol and how they look after the districts and all about coal mining because they're from District 12. So, they learn about all these things that are very basic. Was that also going on in the Capitol and what did the Capitol know about like we know they have universities in the Capitol so they were able to learn a lot and so they weren't necessarily like burning books but it was looked down upon and it was potentially a threat to your life if you talked about particular topics. Was that going on before the dark days and did it affect the Heavensbees? I think that would be a really interesting perspective to take a look at and I just I think it would be so fascinating even if it wasn't prior the dark days and Panem leading up to like all the rebellions. I think that another book would have to be a from a Heavensbee perspective. Like it just it makes sense in my mind that it would be such a cool way to see another way of oppression in the Hunger Games world because it'd be so interesting to read and I think that's something Suzanne Collins has themes on that she could work on during like in another book. I was also discussing before about District 13 and how a perspective from District 13 would be really interesting.

[00:27:34]I've kind of already gone into depth with it but that's like on my notes just right at the bottom about District 13 that it would could also a perspective from District 13 it could also include potentially an epilogue if we were to look at like maybe someone who was on the younger side during the dark days or maybe someone's kids eventually we could see an epilogue from them if they were like in a time period before the the dark days or like a little bit older a teenager during the dark days like maybe actually I'll I'll hold that so that's like one thought I've had I'll hold on to that thought because that's the last thought I want to end the video with a perspective from someone who was a teenager essentially is what I'm saying and I I thought of someone who was a teenager during the time of the dark days but potentially maybe someone's kids after the rebellion there could be an epilogue essentially saying like there was this one rebellion that like maybe my parent fought for and their their child is eventually seeing this and seeing how or maybe they grandchild of course is seeing the reaping the benefits of the second rebellion that Katniss eventually was able to help with and that they are no longer oppressed in District 13 and there could be an epilogue of this person moving away from District 13 that they no longer have to live underground. Now, District 13 kids are allowed or people in general, the civilians, they're allowed above ground and for a period of time. They have it like written on their schedules. I think they have it written on their arms or their wrists or something like that.

[00:29:04]It's somewhere around there. They get it like tattooed on them and then it washes away at the end of the day. As a part of their schedule, they're allowed to go to the surface for a certain period of time. And that's a lot of to them. So, they are allowed above ground, but potentially there'd be a lot of people and I would think I would assume there's a lot of people in District 13 who don't want to live underground anymore. So, there could be an epilogue of someone going above ground and being like this is what my ancestors fought for or something along those lines and they are allowed to move away from District 13 and live above ground like they've always wanted. Or maybe this kid takes their grandparent who was the perspective of the novel that we were looking at and then they were able to jump forward and talk about how their grandkid is moving away from District 13 and maybe even bringing them with them and it's it'd be like a cute like full circle moment. This rebellion that they fought so hard for eventually did work because they were building blocks so there could be a second rebellion. Now, the last perspective I wanted to talk about was Tam Amber. Now, Tam Amber I have legit in my notes. Tam Amber, a teenager during the Dark Days. I think that's what I figured out. Tam Amber is quite a bit older than the rest of Covey. Tam Amber is not directly related to any of the Covey, but he is like he's kind of like the older kid that's like looking after everyone. We also see him in Sunrise on the Reaping being an uncle to Lenora Dove alongside Clark Carmine. Tam Amber was essentially just found. He's I think they refer to him as like as like a lost soul or something and something along those lines in The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. And he was found by the Covey, adopted by them and raised by the Kovey as like a group as far as we know. Like they raised him as a like as a village, which I think it'd be pretty cute. I don't remember exactly how old he would have been during the Dark Days, but some for some reason in my mind he's like 25 at the time of the the 10th Hunger Games and like 15 during the Dark Days or at the end of the Dark Days. I don't know why that's what what I'm thinking about, but I think Tam Amber or something to do with Tam Amber, the Kovey members with Tam Amber is involved. Maybe they're like someone who finds Tam Amber is a part of the perspective that's before the Dark Days, and then they eventually find Tam Amber maybe in an epilogue or something, and that connects everyone into the prequels. I think that'd be really interesting. And especially since Tam Amber was alive during the Dark Days. I don't know why. Someone confirm it for me. For some reason in my head Tam Amber is 15 at the end of the Dark Days and 25 during the time of The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. I cannot remember why I have it figured out that way, but I remember for some reason like working it out in my head. So that's kind of like what's glued to my mind is that Tam Amber is that age. So someone remind me if I'm correct. I could probably look it up on Hunger Games Wiki, but my laptop is like too far away. I'm a little lazy. And since it's in my head and apparently I've confirmed it with myself in my head that he is 25 at the time of The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, that's what we're going with. So yeah, that's how old Tam Amber is. But as I was saying, I think it'd be a really good perspective to use Tam Amber in there because he's old enough to for there to be a connection to a prequel that is like long before the time of anyone who is like in the years of the 75th Hunger Games that there everyone would be too young to be a part of the before times of The Hunger Games except for Coriolanus Snow, but we've already gotten his perspective. Tigris also too young to be like before the the time of the Dark Days simply to be a protagonist. She experienced them more than than snow, but she's still too young to be a protagonist. So, there's a lot of perspectives that we could see characters from that are like parents or older people during the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes like Tam Amber that we could see before the Dark Days and that would be a good way to use Tam Amber in a perspective of a story in order to connect the rest of the prequels. I think like just something surrounding Tam Amber and the Covey would make a lot of sense if we're doing something before the time of The Hunger Games. That would be personally something I'd be really interested in, something connected to Tam Amber, something connected to the Covey. In that way we don't get an entirely new cast, but we're connected to The Hunger Games cast originally in some way, so we're connected to like Lucy Gray, the Covey, Lenora Dove for the 50th Games.

[00:33:21]Like everything is about the Covey, so maybe we get something about the Dark Days before the Dark Days that is pertaining to the Covey. And Tam Amber would be the easiest way to do that.

[00:33:29]But, that is it for today's video, guys, and all of the discussion about the Dark Days and a potential novel like around Dark Days potentially before. I do think that when it comes to another novel that would be predating The Hunger Games they'd have to go further back than the Dark Days. So, it'd have to be something to do with like how the lifestyle was in Panem prior to the Dark Days and what led to the oppression that meant the districts eventually rebelled against the Capitol. So, I think that would be very interesting to do with like the founding of Panem, the lifestyle of Panem before the Dark Days and before The Hunger Games. I think that it would add to a lot of the world building of Panem and The Hunger Games world. I think it'd be so interesting. But, let me know what you think in the comments down below and what kind of novel you'd like to see from Suzanne Collins. If you like this video, please like and subscribe and obviously like I said, comment down below. Emphasis on subscribe as well so I can reach 5,000 subscribers. Comment down below what kind of novel you would like to see, whose perspective would you like to see from another prequel novel as well. Once again, guys, I hope you enjoyed today's video, but I have been CJ and I'll see you guys in the next video. Bye.

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