WUTHERING HEIGHTS - DIGITAL BOOK CLUB

Added: 2026-05-23

[00:00:00]For very long now, people have been asking me to make a book club. And I have considered the idea, but I feel like a I logistically don't know how I would organize it, but b I am a very specific reader where I like to read very specific things and I really have to be in the mood for it and I'll go through phases of reading loads and then suddenly I'll need to take a big break.

[00:00:18]And I just feel like I could not possibly commit to running a book club.

[00:00:22]But also, I realized that I don't think I could really commit to joining one either. And I assume there are other people like me. And so I've devised the plan for us to be able to read together.

[00:00:30]And so I'd like to announce my first book club video.

[00:00:42]Basically, how I hope this is going to work is I'm going to read a book that I really want to read and so I know I actually will read and I hope this is a book that you want to read as well. I have chosen Withering Heights by Emily Bronte. I don't know much about this.

[00:00:54]I'll kind of say what I roughly know about it in terms of like what has inspired me to want to read it, not any spoilers, at least not at this stage.

[00:01:02]Um, I do know some spoilers, but I'm not going to share them. And then every few chapters, I'll come back and I'll record my thoughts and then at the end we can have like a really big debrief. This is going to have spoilers because I want my thoughts to be quite unfiltered. I did something similar with The Secret History by Donatar. And I found that like I wanted it to be spoiler-free so that the video could be more accessible to people who maybe want to read it but don't want spoilers. But that meant that I really had to hold back a lot of my thoughts and I really had to hold my tongue. I don't really want to hold my tongue. I want to be able to have a quite free discussion. So, also warning, there probably will be spoilers in the comments, assuming that people will be talking about what they think about the book as well. Please feel free to watch this video all the way through. If you've already read Withering Heights and want to hear my thoughts, or if you haven't read it, but you don't really care about spoilers and you want to hear my thoughts. But if you would like to read along with me, at the end of each section, I'll say up to which chapter I'm going to read, pause the video, feel free to go read it. And then you can come back whenever you're ready. And yeah, we can kind of get through the book together that way. I've never read Withering Heights before. And up until God, when was the Withering Heights like online discourse? Was it last year or was it this year? I don't know. I feel like time's going so fast. But before the discourse about the movie, I'd never really had a particular call to read the book. Not for any bad reason. I think I just like had other books explained to me in ways that I was really tempted to read them and I never really like knew what Withering Heights was about. I just knew of its existence. Then with the discourse, first of all, I like I really like some of getting stuck in like rabbit holes of like very niche discourse. This is so bad by the way.

[00:02:24]This causes me to waste so much time on my phone taking up so much space in my brain processing so much genuinely like useless information. The Emerald Fennel Withering Heights was one of those things that I spent like hours and hours watching and reading about even though I had not read the book and I had no intention of seeing the movie. However, after looking into all that discourse, I actually do now have an intention to read the book. I've also had quite a few friends tell me about how much they love the book and it's made me realize that I think I've really been missing out. I do know one very big spoiler that happens halfway through the book, but that is all I really know. Like I do know also certain elements about like characters and stuff, but it's more so that like I know about the movie. Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, I know quite a lot. I know about the movie and I know the plot of the movie and I do know some ways that the movie has differed from the book. I do know though that the movie only is like the first half of the book until something that happens in the middle that has been spoiled for me. I don't know what happens after. And also like I don't know what the book is other than what it is in contrast to the movie. I do also know that it is kind of like a tortured awful love story. Like it's not like a happy, lovely, giddy romance. And anyone who's watched my channel a lot knows that I absolutely love tortured, awful, painful romances.

[00:03:30]I don't know what it is. I don't know why. I like often say it's because I think I feel this need to kind of avoid my romantic feelings. And so I'm a bit uncomfortable with really positive romance cuz I feel like it pulls it out of me and forces me to confront those feelings. But I've also been in a really happy, wonderful three-year long relationship. So like I don't know what it actually is, but I really like romances that are like super depressing and cynical. The vibe is like it's your first love and you are so optimistic and naive and bubbly and then it all comes crashing down and you're forced to reckon with the fact that life is painful and brutal. I don't know what it is, but I love that kind of stuff. And the vibe I've gotten is that like this is moving in that direction of books. I don't know entirely how much it's like that cuz again I don't know much about the book, but I do know it is a bit of like a a tortured love story. This has how many chapters? I'm trying to look without spoiling. Okay, I can see 34 chapters. So, let's say I'm going to go away and I'm going to read up until chapter 8. Wait, I'm going to finish chapter 8. So, I'm going to read chapters 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8. Stop before chapter 9 and then I'll come back and let you guys know what I think. I'm super excited. I really hope that this works. Please let me know also in the comments if you're watching this all the way through or if you're going to be reading along with me because I'm super curious if this kind of book club idea will work.

[00:04:48]Stop.

[00:04:53]Yeah.

[00:05:07]>> I've actually had like six mouthfuls.

[00:05:09]>> No way.

[00:05:10]>> Is it you or you?

[00:05:11]>> You just straight up pug.

[00:05:12]>> I have just finished chapter 8 of Withering Heights. I am really enjoying it. However, something that I've realized is that I actually know way more spoilers than I originally thought.

[00:05:22]As I'm reading and as certain characters are being introduced, I'm like, "Oh, wait. I actually do remember this from like the hours of Withering Heights Discourse that I've watched." So, I feel like up until like halfway through the book where there's like quite a significant thing that happens. Like basically up until the end of the movie, I think from what I remember the movie stops halfway through the book. I know only up until that part. I don't know what happens in the second part of the book at all. So, I'm really excited for that because usually I'm really anal about like no spoilers ever at all. I don't know even mentioning like the genre of what a book is. If I haven't asked, I get really stressed cuz I don't want any inkling of what could possibly happen. But I feel like I'm really enjoying this even though I know basically what will happen in the first half. So far, my thoughts. First of all, I am finding it super easy to follow along with and read, which is really, really nice because at first, like, especially because it's written in like, I don't know, a kind of English that I don't speak, and there's loads of words that I don't actually know and I have to like search up what they mean. It was quite slow, like the first few pages, I was kind of starting and stopping. But then once I got like, I think quite early on, but especially once Nelly Ellen like started talking and started telling the story of like Catherine and Heath Cliffe when they were kids, then I was like completely hooked. And I've been really speeding through. I think I'm going to record like the next segment tomorrow. Like I think I want to read the next chapters today because I'm enjoying this so much. Like I mentioned, there's a lot of words that I don't understand, but I've personally found that if I search up what the words mean, I don't feel like I've been sucked out of the plot or anything. Like I don't feel like I now I'm like starting and stopping. I feel like even with those interruptions, I'm still speeding through and the actual like ideas of what's happening is like really locking into my mind. Something that I can't get over though, right? Because I obviously, like I said, I saw all the discourse about the casting and about like the way Emerald Fennel chose to interpret Wthering Heights. I already was kind of flabbergasted and I was already kind of like, okay, that's like kind of crazy to do. But I had not read the book and I'm specifically speaking about Heath Cliff's race and like the way she chose and this is all old news. Like I'm going to really like keep this brief. I'm like 6 months late to the game. However, I was already annoyed when I thought that Heath Cliff's race was something that was like in some minor way kind of relevant. But I swear like so far a lot of Heath Cliff's if not like most of Heath Cliff's character development and like I guess the things he's been through and stuff like that has been linked in some way to his race and his kind of identity as like outsider. And I basically like I know I'm so late but I'm actually really annoyed at the casting choice. And also like the Lintons aren't white but then like there's that whole thing where Heath Cliff is like oh I will never be Edgar because I'm not white and I'm not blonde and I don't have blue eyes. And I just kind of feel like where race is so integral to the plot. Whatever. This is old news. I just can't believe like now I am really shocked at the casting and I was already shocked at the casting. But yeah, I don't really feel the need to watch the movie. I was speaking to my friend who has read the book and also has watched the movie and said that she likes both as like two separate pieces of media and she asked if I want to watch the movie, but then she rewatched it and was like, "Oh, I don't think you'd like it." And from everything I've heard, I don't think I'd like it either.

[00:08:17]But I am loving the book so much. I can't remember what her name is. is the actress, but she played Effie Stonem.

[00:08:22]And I saw that there is a adaptation with Effie Stonem. Um, I'd be curious to watch that. I think I would quite like to, but so far I'm loving it so much. To be fair, I'm sounding so chipper and I'm saying, "Oh, I love it so much." It is really sad. That is one thing I'm struggling with a little bit. I think the like endlessness of the abuse that these kids are enduring. And I think also like the way that they've like now grown up to be. Obviously, like they're still quite young, but I've just gotten to the scene where I've just finished the scene where Catherine slaps everyone. She slaps the baby. She slaps Nelly. She slaps her mans. And I feel like as someone in this generation who understands a lot about trauma and stuff like that, I think I just feel really sorry for the way that these children have grown up and the fact that they've grown up in such a horrifically tumultuous household where they are so severely neglected. I just find it like really really heartbreaking. Especially Heath Cliff. Like I feel like you know the kindness that Kathy gets shown by like the Lintons and stuff. It's so sad when like Heath Cliff doesn't get that same kindness and is actually treated horribly. And I think all the depictions of like abuse and stuff have been very difficult to read, especially cuz there's like no kind of like, okay, they went through this horrible thing and now everything is okay. We are still in the midst of just like all the horrors they're enduring. And I feel like it's been really difficult to read. Now that I'm talking about that, actually, I'm like tapping more into that feeling.

[00:09:37]Yeah, it's been difficult to read. Like I've been really enjoying it and I've been really like sat through and like but I feel like I just feel so sorry for those kids. Like I just feel so sorry for those kids. So mistreated, especially Heath Cliff. Right. Okay. I obviously like don't know entirely how it's going to play out, but I know that the book is largely to do with like cycles of violence and like repetition of violence and stuff like that. And I don't want to like be Heathcliffe and I don't want to like continue that cycle of violence, but I like I feel like this one part of myself is very like I want to see Heath Cliff not get revenge in like this horrible sinister way, but I want some sort of compensation for everything that this boy's had to endure. I feel like that's where the plot's heading, that he is going to get that conversation. And obviously at the beginning of the book, we know that he ends up this like grouchy, nasty, very lonely, awful man. And like I I just kind of feel so like I don't know. I wish someone showed him some love. And obviously Kathy does, but like [ __ ] man. It's just so sad. It's like really really sad. And I kind of feel like I'm excited to see where that will go. But I feel like this is one of those books where I'm not going to get that like happy payoff of like everyone was abused horribly as children. But they all learned to feel unconditionally safe and loved in their adulthood and now they're all happy and they all love each other and they have made sure to never repeat those cycles of violence and they feel very content and grateful for their lives. Now I feel like this isn't that kind of story. I feel like I mean I know this isn't that kind of story even just from the beginning we get with Heath Cliff just like clearly being this like really miserable man but I kind of get why he would be I think that's what I'm trying to say like I get why he would be in the same way I get why that scene why Kathy just smacks everyone up like I get it she was abused her whole life too where was she supposed to have learned to regulate herself if she was never taught to regulate herself and same with people where was he supposed to learn to like I don't know forgive and love and all of this if like he wasn't ever taught that anyways basically I just feel so story for them. And I feel like this book is going to be largely about cycles of abuse. And I'm sorry that nobody helped these kids. And that is the main emotion I'm feeling right now along with absolute like gobsmacked shock at the casting choices. Feel free to comment. You can put maybe like a spoiler warning, but feel free to comment at this point in the book what you think. And also if you disagree with me, maybe you disagree entirely with my reading of it so far. I might be completely wrong. I hate giving my opinion on books before I've managed to scour Reddit and see what everyone on Reddit is saying. Um, so this is like difficult for me because always with literature I'm like, am I giving the wrong opinion? Have I like totally misread this? And am I actually saying something really controversial and [ __ ] up and have I totally like misread the room? And that's why I like to usually check what everyone on Reddit is saying and see if they agree with me before I give my opinion. So I'm having to give my opinion without checking Reddit first and that is stressful for me. So please feel free to give your opinion in the comments. And if you disagree with me and you do think I said something [ __ ] up and really really incorrect, let me know. For the next bunch of chapters, let's finish chapter 16. So, I'm going to read up until chapter the start of chapter 17. I'm going to finish chapter 16. That is like a healthy chunk of the book, okay?

[00:12:26][music] And then I'll let you guys know what I think. Bye-bye.

[00:13:00]>> [music] [music] >> Hi guys. Um, I actually have now finished the book. However, oh my gosh, my hair is crazy. Um, I'm at the beach as you can see. I was reading it on the train and then when I realized that I had reached the end of like the chapters that we said we would read, I think chapter 16, I realized that I wanted to keep reading but I didn't have anywhere to record on the train. So, I made notes that I've just refreshed myself on and I'll tell you guys what I thought at that point because oh my goodness, I was feeling a lot. Something also that like I did realize was that I didn't make a lot of notes in regards to what was actually happening because I feel like at that point I wasn't really processing much because I was feeling so much emotionally. I knew already what would happen with Kathy. That was the big thing that I had had spoiled for me and I also knew what was going to happen to Isabella. But I didn't expect it to be so horrific. And at that point in the book, I genuinely was considering not reading anymore. That's partly also why I wanted to to keep reading straight away rather than pausing to record this because I was hesitant to like continue reading on holiday cuz I'm currently seeing my friend Helena. I've left her and Baj on the beach. Um well, no, I've left them on a different part of the beach. I'm still on the beach. But I genuinely was like so troubled and like so upset that I was feeling quite like sick and like I was really struggling to engage with the book because all of these images of abuse, but I think particularly the very like emotionally [ __ ] up and especially towards Heathcliffe. The horrific way that he was particularly emotionally abused. He was obviously physically abused as well, but was particularly like the emotional abuse was killing me. I was really really really struggling to read it and I was really tempted to stop because it was just so hard. Like that was the main thing that I was writing in my notes.

[00:14:50]It's just like I don't know if I could keep reading this. I also did find it interesting the way that people describe Heath Cliffe and Kathy's relationship because as much as like there is a very very romantic element to it, I feel like people downplay the extent to which like they are siblings. I was speaking actually to my friends who had read the book at this point and I was saying like especially a few of my friends who are like it's such a romantic book and that doesn't mean it's a good kind of romance. That doesn't mean it's a positive kind of relationship that we should aspire to. It is still a romantic book and I agree, but I also think like it isn't as simple as like they love each other and are romantically interested in each other. I do think that it's some weird codependent and I don't know, maybe weird's not the right word, but I do feel like a big element of it is like a codependent incestuous trauma bond. Like I do feel like it is pretty incestuous because they are raised as siblings. Um especially near the beginning when uh their dad uh when Kathy's dad does encourage Huthcliffe to be treated in the same way that Kathy and um Hindley are. I do feel like it is incestous in a way and I do feel like it is very largely like they are the only two people that had each other's backs in a household that was so unbelievably disruptive and tumultuous and just like abusive rather than reading it entirely as just like this unrequited intense romance. Well, not unrequited. point is it's requited but like you know there's so many things in the way that are stopping them from being together and there was a big misunderstanding and now they can't be together. I feel like it is like incestuous and it is largely from a trauma bond and that doesn't mean like that's a well I wasn't say not like that's a bad thing obviously like that's a bit taboo right like I'm not saying that as a criticism because I think when I spoke to some people about it they think that I'm criticizing the book like I think that that is a very interesting theme to explore and I feel like sometimes with books like that's what I struggle with a bit in romance that I was saying that like I struggle with romance that is just very plain in the sense of like it is just happy it's very like I almost find happiness to be quite a one-dimensional emotion in a way cuz it's just so simple and that doesn't mean that that's a bad thing but I feel like sometimes within myself, I feel this kind of avoidance towards happiness and towards expressing happiness because it's just so simply one-dimensional one thing and it feels very vulnerable.

[00:16:52]Whereas you can hide behind layers of like more complex emotions because there's a bigger chance that what you're expressing the other person won't entirely get. So I feel like you can hide behind it a bit more. For example, I like really weird [ __ ] up romances where like it's super painful and horrible and I'm requited and everyone's suffering because I feel like there's a lot more emotional not even depth because happiness can be a very deep emotion but like there's more emotional complexity because the emotions were multifaceted and in this case I feel like what they're exploring with this kind of like romance between two people that had been raised as siblings and then they were emotionally abused but also emotionally abused in such different ways and they only had each other but then they were like kept separate in this awful way I feel like is so interesting. It's interesting how different people react so differently to their relationship. Um, yeah. And also, I just kind of like I just feel so sorry for everyone. I think that's the biggest thing I feel. I just feel so sorry for everyone. Like I think it can be easy maybe to be like team Heathcliffe and be like, "Oh, I wish Heath Cliff and Catherine were together." But like Linton, like Linton, my poor guy, didn't do anything either. At least from what I remember now thinking back. Yeah, I just feel so [ __ ] sorry for everyone.

[00:17:48]Anyways, the next chapters that we are going to read are chapters 17 until 26.

[00:17:55]So, the end of 26. Stop reading and I'll see you guys again at the start of chapter 27.

[00:18:06]People see who is making this noise.

[00:18:10]Oh no, I made him shy. Oh no. Sorry, J.

[00:18:18]Hello. I'm so sorry because I did not bring my camera or my fancy microphone with me and I've just finished reading.

[00:18:25]I feel like this has been really all over the place because the last update I also had to give like after the fact.

[00:18:30]Um, but I'll make sure to set up everything nicely for like the final thing. I've just literally as of like 10 seconds ago finished chapter 26 and I like have a lot of thoughts but they're not really about like anything that's particularly happened. I think more than anything, I'm just a bit disappointed.

[00:18:49]No, not disappointed actually. I don't really mind, but I recognize that like I don't know if we're going to get a happy ending. Like I don't understand how this book is supposed to end because it's been such a like weird complex tale of like so much incest, so many cousins getting with each other. Um although I don't know if that was like really incesty at the time in regards to like I don't know, everyone seems really chill with the cousins like getting together.

[00:19:11]Anyways, I don't know. I just kind of feel like I really wonder how this is going to end. I feel like with some books it's really obvious the direction that is going in, but I really don't know what direction this is going in.

[00:19:20]Additionally, also I found that I was getting quite upset reading the like depictions of abuse in the first half.

[00:19:27]But I think even though like obviously like Linton is being abused and like characters are being abused in this like second part, second generation, I feel like it's been way easier to stomach.

[00:19:39]Like I'm a really really sensitive reader. I really struggle reading a lot of things. really really hard like difficult themes of abuse I personally find extremely difficult to read. But I feel like this has actually been like a lot easier than the first half. The first half I genuinely was like I don't know if I can keep reading. But I feel like now it's like all definitely like spoken about but it's not described.

[00:19:57]It's like obvious that it's happening and it's like really hinted at, but it isn't described in horrifying detail.

[00:20:03]Not I don't know. It wasn't even described in horrifying detail actually in the beginning. I think it was just enough detail to make me uncomfortable.

[00:20:08]Also, this shadow is so crazy. I'm just really enjoying it as well, like as a story. I think especially because like I read quite a lot of non-fiction, quite a lot of like very pretentious, annoying non-fiction. So, I find it really nice to actually read like a nice story.

[00:20:22]Well, not a nice story, but like a story story, you know? I'm glad I read it as well because I feel like so many people have read it. So, I'm glad to just like be in the no now. Anyways, that is my update. Let's now finish the book. I have no idea what's going to happen because I really don't know where this is going. I'm excited what Emily Bronte has up her sleeve. Like, I literally cannot imagine how this story will end because it's one that could just go on.

[00:20:46]There obviously was that little thing about like Nelly thinking that the man that she's speaking to might fancy Kathy Catherine, young Katherine Linton, except she's pretty young. But again, that like I don't think that was really an issue at the time from the way that everyone else is talking in here. Please let me know what you think so far. Let me know at this point also what you think how it's going to end cuz I just genuinely am totally clueless. Anyways, I'm actually really really excited. The reason that I'm recording it now with my like shitty phone. I'm probably going to export this video in 4K because of my camera, but like this is definitely not 4K, but I like am so keen to just continue reading. Look, this is all we have. Oops. [ __ ] This is all we have left. So, let's go. Let's read. I'm so excited. See you soon.

[00:21:34]>> [music] >> Hello guys. I'm currently at the beach and I know I said that next time I would have my fancy camera, but I didn't want to bring my fancy camera to the beach.

[00:21:49]And I'm also wearing my boyfriend's jumper, not jumper, shirt because I'm so cold. I ran into the freezing cold water and I went fully under water as a challenge and I've not warmed up. So, I hope I don't catch a fever. Anyways, I have left Helena and Bo because they are reading in order to talk to you guys about Withering Heights because I finished it last night and I have a lot of thoughts, but let's find somewhere to sit. I have thought about it. I reflected on it. I finished it last night and since then I have been thinking about it. I've been doing like a little bit I was a bit confused about certain parts and I did a little bit of Reddit research. Um, but other than that, I believe that I have my final rating. Final Withering Heights rating is four stars out of five. I think that it was brilliant. I think that I genuinely like found it so beautiful. I think the conclusion was perfect. I think I was getting like almost sick of how dreary it was almost like seemingly without end. And I think the fact that it ended in a way that is so full circle for all the characters I find to be like I cuz obviously I was saying that I'm so curious how it's going to end. I feel like it was the perfect ending. I even almost feel tempted to reread it just because of how beautifully circular, not circular, cyclical it was. Um, but I I don't think I could bear to reread it to be honest cuz I was getting so depressed in the first half. I think the way that everything ended for all the characters was so perfect. Like I think the fact that Heathcliffe got what he wanted in the end. I think the fact that Catherine's dead body is in between these two men that she loved uh but is secretly way closer because that's what I was confused about. I didn't understand what he meant when he said that he knocked the coffin loose. But like in case anyone else was confused, what he meant was that he pulled out the side of her coffin um that would be facing where he was going to be buried.

[00:23:24]And then he bribed the person who like buries them or whatever to take out his side that would be next to her so that their coffins would like be next to each other but open so that like their bodies could mingle. Whereas Linton's is kind of like split off from them. And I feel like that's really symbolic as well. I love that um young Kathy and also oh god I don't actually know how to pronounce his name. inheritan. I love that they ended up together, but I also really love that where the original Catherine felt shame and felt it would quote unquote degrade her to marry someone like Heath Cliff. I love that the young Kathy allowed herself to be degraded and lowered and to marry someone like Heritton who is just like Heath Cliff and to teach him and to kind of help him to like educate him and be patient with him and in that way the cycle is broken.

[00:24:08]It was just so beautiful. I really really like Nelly the main character.

[00:24:11]Um, I really like Mr. Lockwood as well, even though he's like barely a character. I found it so interesting how like how did he was just like, okay, like I'm out of here. I don't give a [ __ ] And then he comes back and he's like, "Oh, she's so beautiful. I should have married her." I really liked it. I think overall also I am really shocked obviously at um Emerald Fennel's casting. I didn't watch the movie. I don't really care to. Um I have seen a lot of people defend it by saying it's her interpretation, but I still feel like that speaks a lot. like a very very very wealthy and privileged white woman read that book and interpreted it to be like the sexy white man because I feel like like I get it's her interpretation but it's kind of madness that like she didn't interpret him to be racially ambiguous considering that is like very much relevant to his story overall. Also my thoughts on Heathcliffe he did so many evil awful awful things but I also like I got to this point in the book where I was like I can't defend him and like I'm not going to defend him. I can't defend him. The fact that he doesn't feel guilty I think is so interesting. I think I really want to reflect on the character of Heath Cliffe a bit more because yeah, like I feel like he obviously did like awful awful like genuinely despicable things like he was a rampant abuser but I feel like it's so interesting that he truly does not feel guilty because he only had one goal in mind and that was or maybe two I guess like just like complete revenge and also to be with Catherine. And I don't know I feel like it's not to say that just cuz he doesn't feel guilty I think he shouldn't feel guilty. I think he did do awful horrible things and like that's not what I'm trying to say that he didn't. But I mean that like I really find like his like psychological breakdown or whatever very interesting and I think I'm going to think about him a lot. I think we do some more research on his character. I also think like it's kind of um I don't know. I don't think it's really relevant or important to talk about whether he was justified. Or maybe it is. I kind of feel like it doesn't matter because the point is like even if he wasn't well but I think he probably if we're going to talk about like being justified not being justified I think he wasn't justified to abuse all those children obviously but I feel like rather than thinking about it as like was he justified to do that I'm thinking about it through the lens of like am I surprised that he did and with the way that like generational trauma and especially like men like the fact that like he was a man who was made to feel so like he had no power whatsoever because of his identity as outsider to then try to like gain that power through the only way that like men a lot of men are taught to which is like through intimidation and like power in a very like literal sense I guess. Um I just feel like it's like not surprising if that makes sense. Like a lot of people talk about whether he should have done that and it's like yeah obviously you shouldn't abuse children but I feel like it's interesting to think about it in the lens of like I'm not surprised that he did and I'm really glad that through Kathy like the second Kathy's love to Heritton he probably won't then follow in those footsteps because he is taught to be gentle and to love and yeah I guess like to escape that cycle.

[00:26:48]Ultimately I think it was brilliant. Uh yeah four out of five stars. I think that it was lacking something in particular for me to have it be a five star. Um, I think also potentially it was just a bit too difficult for me to read at points, but overall I really enjoyed it. Sorry as well that this video ended up being very like all over the place in terms of um in terms of like recording the bits in between cuz obviously I've been recording on my shitty phone. Well, not my shitty phone.

[00:27:12]I actually got quite a good phone, but this isn't the same as my fancy 4K camera. I would like to hope that the next book club that we do will be a bit fancier. I think the next one might be East of Eden, but I'm not sure. Let me know in the comments if you guys have any requests for books that you would like me to record in this format. Please let me know what you thought. Uh, let me know your rating as well. I'm really curious if you guys agree with the things that I liked or if you guys disagree. I also found the writing very beautiful. I don't know if I said that like the structure was very beautiful, but also like the actual way that it was written. Um, so yeah, let me know what you guys think. I love you all so much.

[00:27:40]Please like and subscribe and I'll see you guys next time. Bye-bye.