Burlingame strips the Hero’s Journey of its romanticism, reframing it as a practical, daily discipline essential for pulling a fractured society back from the brink. It is a sharp reminder that true heroism is found in the quiet labor of maintaining sanity amidst collective madness.
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EM is my other handler. I just had on my first handler, Joe Kent, and EM is my secondary handler. He's the follow-up.
It's the double tap. Double tap doesn't just matter in shooting people in the face. It also matters with handling. So, you know, I have I have I have Joe Kent on and he charms me over and I have EM on and he reminds me that I am a I am a pawn in a game of players that I can't even comprehend. And that's that's why my podcast is so big and makes so much money is because I'm a federal asset.
So, that's, you know, that's that's where I come down on this to I don't even know where the [ __ ] I'm going with that. You Irish must have a whole different concept of what rich is cuz uh you're you're you're paying for the show and that's honest and you're paying for your living. That's honest.
But >> it ain't making you rich.
>> No. When people are like, "Well, it pays when it pays when you've got federal contacts." And I'm like, >> "Yeah."
>> Do you think I'm stealing sport drink because like I need it for my last Bugatti?
>> Yeah.
>> Who the [ __ ] are you?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> I don't know. You mean you mean you I'm sure you thought about this, you know, but you might want to switch to the Juice. I you hear they pay better.
>> That's a Well, even then Well, now I'm [ __ ] cuz I just did a show with Joe Ken, so that one's not go forever. That that that client's forever gone. I could have maybe finagled it up until literally an hour ago.
>> Now that one Now that one's gone. So now I have to >> I mean I I guess buddy up with Qatar or something, but >> No, no, no. We've taken Cutter Cutter off the table.
>> I don't Yeah. No, no, no, no. Cutters out of Yeah, >> I don't >> Yeah, I mean, you could really sell out your Irishness and try to go City of London, but >> I could I don't think they'll have me because of Tom and Blaine and then you and Watkins and >> Yeah, >> I think I've burned a lot of bridges to be an asset. Other than the US of A, the one place I always defend is the one place that >> seems to seems to [ __ ] hate me. They don't >> doesn't pay. No, they're very angry cuz I didn't go along with COVID or the [ __ ] or the >> No, it's just they're they're tight ass wasps, >> right?
>> It's I think it's a lot like exercise and dieting. People always try to find a middle ground. They're like, well, you know, exercise doesn't have to be painful. And it's like, okay, in theory, but it it if it doesn't hurt, you're not building muscle. It's just what it is.
There's really no unless you've got a trillion dollars and you can afford your own team of doctors.
>> Dieting is really you can go different ways, you eat more vegetables, okay, you'll feel a little more satiated, but the end of the day, if you're not waking up in the middle of the night going, I'm so hungry, then you're just not losing fat. It's just what it is. I think that's maybe the takeaway from all of this is like the real signal that you're doing something honestly and doing it truly with the best values in your heart. Pick your religion or philosophy.
The real only marker that you're doing that correctly is pain.
>> You're just you're not getting it from somewhere. You're not getting wads from this or sponsors from that. That's the only way around it. I don't Yeah, I don't know where I'm going with all this.
>> Let's get back to the topic at hand.
Let's get back to the book. Let's get back to Aszro Burns.
>> Yeah.
>> Which all of this is, >> you know, I started to write as England Burns, which is the follow on. Um I need to do some more world building because it's, you know, it's a series.
It's going to be a five book series when it's all done which will take us from it's the shouldering giants world right and it'll take us you know and I named it that because we stand on the shoulders of giants and in our lifetimes we need to make ourselves strong enough and capable enough and have broad enough shoulders that giants can stand on our shoulder one day right >> that we become a giant such that giants can stand on our shoulders. So, um, the shouldering giants world will extend when it's all done in five cuz the first novel is now and I finished. It's out at Amazon or you can get a signed copy at my website. Um, and we're just starting to build some other stuff we can talk about in a minute. But, um, it extends from now, you know, well, let's say the last six, seven years. The next no no no no novel is going to take us into the end of the next decade. the third novel will jump forward a bit um in you know in where I kind of think things are going to be going depending on what happens in the next you know six seven years um and then it's going to go back to my mother uh my mother's time frame because that's you know the the late 40s because that's when the world fundamentally changed um and you the old the old ancient thousand-year systems, regimes, associations, relationships, obligations, all that kind of came undone and we went to this new, you know, finan purely financialist system, globalist financialist system. And then it'll the the final novel which I actually wrote first and is already written but need to go back and rewrite it is um the time frame of my own life.
So the the shouldering giants universe will expand will extend from the end of empire to the return to empire basically. Um I've been thinking about one thing you've you've always said more than any book I've ever read is my favorite. It's not a book but uh Blueprints for Armageddon by uh Dan Carlin. It's a six- part series, four hours each about World War I, >> and it is >> more I've never hung on every word of something like that ever.
There's some I've read a lot of fantastic books.
>> And then recently, me and my buddy have been playing a video game that came out somewhat recently. It's really like low graphic, low, but it's just called Over the Top and it's 100 on 100 and it's trench warfare. And when you're play, you really is just even though it's a game, you're still just playing. You're like, "This is so fucked." And I think about what you said a couple shows ago.
You said, "The world went insane with World War I. We've never returned." And >> there is something about that mechanization of not just mechanization of slaughter because sure, anything can happen, but the mechanization, watching it, and then continuing it. It's one thing if you eat something bad and you throw up. It's another thing to just sit there and eat it meal after meal meal for years and your apartment's covered in vomit and you're down 80 pounds and that's insanity. And I don't exactly know how to tie that into this conversation. I've just been thinking of that more and more of the world went insane in World War I and we've never fully returned.
>> Yeah. So, um, the shouldering giants universe really extends over 800 years, um, and will be 900 when it's done. Give me one second.
>> Different peoples have gone insane in different conflicts in different times throughout history.
And the the novel series, The Shouldering Giants World, is really about an organization, a grouping of a a secret order of knights that aren't bound to a church or religion or a state or a crown, but to the old matalineal motherto-daughter bloodlines.
And their main primary task is one is to secure those bloodlines and those assets and those relationships in the times when states, people's, families, etc. go insane because it happens. Um, and how do they do that? Well, they have to be the bastions of sanity.
And since World War I, since we, you know, killed off all of the nobility, you know, that was the role of the aristocracy, the healthy noble aristocracy was to and and the monarchy was to be the bastions of insanity.
the same with, you know, your military universities, you know, your your militarymies like the Vermont Military Institute that I went to, um, or graduated from. Um, you know, they're your warrior class, your nightly class are the ones who are meant to maintain sanity no matter what.
And it's a thing we don't talk about, right? But when we are selecting in special forces, one of the things that they are the thing, and I can't speak for the SEALs, but I can speak for the Green Berets and SAS, what they are speaking for, what they are selecting for first and foremost is the ability to stay sane in an insane environment.
Right? It's not about physicality. It's not about being able to take a smoke fest. It's not about, you know, all of that. You got to be able to do that, too. But it's this absolute complete every single moment of every day of selection uncertainty. They literally in special forces in the Green Berets, which is special forces, everybody else special operations forces, no disrespect, it's just technical term, right? Um, they quite literally tell you take all instructions from the board.
Well, there might not be anything on the board. Something might randomly show up on the board some moment and now you got a 25 mile ruck march or or you know, you got to go do something somewhere and assemble a team, you know. So, it's this ambiguity and this uncertainty and this exhaustion and this, you know, and and guys quite literally crack up. they they their sanity cracks particularly on the star course in in um and then later if they get selected really in Sears school's like that's the one where it's like okay let's test if you can stay sane in a totally and absolutely insane environment. Um, there was I won't go into details just cuz I'm not supposed to and I wouldn't anyways, but there was one particular night in Seir School, one particular event that seared in my mind to this day. And the instructor that was there, the guy that was, you know, whatever, um, role playing, but really an instructor, man, he taught me a lesson. Taught me a lesson that has stuck with me to this day. But you know the the point is that throughout human history societies have gone insane.
It's just human, you know, we're we're primates and sometimes the the the tri primite tribe goes insane.
But the tribes that sustain are the ones that their warriors, their knights, however that's defined, never lose their sanity. Now they might, you know, you know, have serious brain injuries and might have some PTSD for a while, etc., but they find their way out of that. And there's enough of their brethren that aren't in that state, you know, status or state, and we have the mechanisms and the recognition of, okay, well, we're we're going to get into this state at some point, so we need to be able to work ourselves back out of it. um you know like the work that that Clay does you know using the old Scandinavian ways and then there's other ways as well right um so to your you know to your point and this ties into yes we went insane in World War I killed off our no you know we killed off systematically intentionally most of the people and ended entire bloodlines that have been around for a thous0 years or more which were the keepers of sanity no matter what.
Well, how do you keep your sanity in insane environments? How do you keep in your sanity when the world is trying to drive you insane to control you, you know, to to shape and warp your reality?
You have to have this very long, very broad and very deep understanding of history.
And not as a you know an intellectual pursuit but as something you feel viscerally right something that you're moving with when when you are moving through the world you need to feel your ancestors you need to feel the men you know for us warriors you know for the knights you need to feel the ancestral knights and warriors in your bloodline and honor Um, so that's how you maintain sanity, for women, it's, you know, I I'm not a woman, but you know, I've got a daughter, two, got kind of an adopted daughter now, too. So, I got two of them, and I'm trying to plot through that space, trying to help them and figure them out as well, right, in their future.
And women have a much harder job of having to maintain sanity in an insane world because they're dealing with the world of women.
>> Yeah.
>> Right. Where that that estrogenic warfare like the article I published third in the series, final in the series this morning on um it's title women's war. You know what is that? Well, that's reality warping.
My that is >> my my dad has >> one brother, five sisters and uh obvious Yeah. Obviously I have uh three brother one past but three grew up four boys.
>> And my mom was about half and half. She grew up with sisters and brothers.
They've both always said I'll take four boys all day every day.
Like what are you talking about? My mom's like, cuz they, it's one thing for dad to say that, but for mom to be like, they, you know, nuclear war erupts, they will just beat the dog [ __ ] out of each other, crying to whatever, and then it all ends over >> and by and by, you know, 11:00 a.m.
they're ready for nap time and snacks and it's there's been a peace treaty signed. They were like, my mom's like, "Women are crazy." My dad's like, "They are psychological torturers." It's like, yeah, and there is. So, I do feel for that. Being a guy is relatively I'll take it all day every day. Just >> it's like what the podcast is. Brute force, work harder, make money, find the problems. What are the problems? I'm drinking too much. I'm eating too much.
Cut those things out. Keep going. Move forward. Move forward. Network with other guys that build the show. Go forward. Got it. I'll take that all day every day cuz it's it's brute force pain. But you know what it is.
>> Yeah. It's the grind.
>> Yeah. The other [ __ ] is like Abu Grae.
>> I have a good friend of mine. He's a was a supermodel. He's older now, but he was a supermodel. And he grew up with seven sisters.
>> [ __ ] that.
>> Like that, J.
>> Seven sisters. Five of them older, two of them younger, >> right? And he boy, the stories he had about the house and and even into when we were older and you know, all of that.
It's just like, holy cow. And I watch it with the girls, you know, in and out of the house like, "Holy cow, that is some ruthless shit." And the [ __ ] they say to each other. And so, you know, men specifically, strong, capable men, the non-estrogenic, that's our role is to maintain sanity, right? That's that unmovable object to the unstoppable force that is that is the estrogenic, >> right? Not just women, but you know, um, and not just lower status males, by the way. Right? So, we got to be careful there way as well because there are lower status males that are still very solid males, >> right? They're very solid. They're they're testosterone. They they believe in sanity and and rationality and hard work and, you know, just rewards and those types of things. So, um this is another thing we need to be, you know, kind of parse that we lost in World War I is this understanding of organic status hierarchies, right? that it isn't, you know, that the lower status people are not lower quality human beings. They're just lower socioeconomic, you know, status levels. And the honest truth is they're the greater portion of why civilization s, you know, they are the keepers of civilization. They live it. Well, one thing one thing you've said and Cla said and I'm rereading a book right now, the general close by will arc and yeah, they go into the entire the enablers and the support of special operations. They're like it's not just >> it's not just you Dale will say it and it's not just like Dale being nice being like well you don't need to be SF to be a real man. He's like no no no like as a system >> you >> we're not he's like we're not putting oil in the trucks. He's like, "I'm not making breakfast for the, you know, the the CAG operators."
>> And they are. It's like, and I don't I mean, Arthur's book came out in 2019 or 2020. I don't know what the numbers are now, but he was like, "Yeah, it's like minimum 15 to one, 18, >> 25 to 27 in a combat theater."
>> There you go.
>> 27 to 25 to 27 for every one of us.
>> Um, >> give me one second.
>> You're good.
>> There is a selection criteria for them, too, though, right? So in the army the guys that that you know the support guys work with us get a skill identifier at the end of their MOS I think it's actually an S but it's a skill identifier that identifies it that they've gone through some kind of a selection process much smaller but you know some kind of a you know a weeding out is probably a better term although we we've even had some small you know one day several hour event um but even those guys that come to work with us and support us aren't just your average, you know, support guys.
>> No, but it's a it's the entire thing is a fractal, >> correct?
>> Of there's always a level of there's always going to be the unwashed retards.
Like I get that, >> but it doesn't a selected go to a hospital. How many trauma surgeons are there?
>> Okay. And then how many support nurses are there? The nur got to go to nursing school.
>> How many orderlys? How many?
>> And you zoom out from there. How many hygienists? How many? And then eventually you got the guy doing security. But the guy doing security is still not a [ __ ] you know, pass the drug test like it's a >> fract. Yeah. Yeah. So, and it takes us all, right? That's the thing we like to say. It takes us all and we all need to be sane because what is that? You know, back to your thing, right? What is the thing that you know what is the one thing that competence requires?
The only one thing that competence requires sanity.
Because if you're saying you can put in the work, the hard work necessary to become competent at whatever scale or level that you're competent, but if you don't have sanity, you will never be competent. It's impossible.
>> It's like sleep.
>> Well, you could be incompetent at being insane.
I mean, it's I look at like like the system like for me and I've said it a million times. It's 8 hours sleep, 30 minutes exercise, 20 minutes meditation, 10 minutes prayer. That is what I used to do like bodybuilding in high school.
It's what I used to get into medical school and college and it's what I used to build the podcast now. all all completely dissimilar tasks, but the system is that's what it is at its core is it's sanity.
>> Yeah, sanity.
>> I'm I'm rested. I'm awake and I'm ready.
>> Well, and and you know, back to you know, kind of tying back into the I wrote another book that's a companion to the novel, which is non non-fiction, which is a modern night's guide book, right? So, you know, what does it take to maintain sanity in an insane world? A little bit of ritual.
>> Mhm.
>> Little bit of structure.
>> Checklist. You don't have to think about it. Follow checklist.
>> Uh and it doesn't mean you have to be, you know, what is that? Um OCD, right?
Or or obsessivecompulsive disorder kind of person, you know, who's just absolutely following rigid to the that's now insane. Also me in college was yeah I eventually saw a doctor and she was like you were like one level of OCD below like hospitalization.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So um so it takes a little bit of ritual. It takes a little bit of structure daily right daily ritual daily structure. You have to have release mechanisms that are healthy so that when things build up, things get, you know, you can start seeing it coming, recognition, and then you have some way to go release tension, stress before it builds up in the body. Um, you have to get regular good amounts of sleep. It's just absolutely essential. Uh, and you have to compensate for sleep loss. If you have to go through a period of sleep loss, um you need to have three to five healthy relationships and not just with your cats or your dogs or horses, but with you know health other healthy human beings.
>> Um and then more important than all of that, but all of those are necessary to it is you have to have a purpose in your life that's bigger than something you will ever accomplish in your lifetime.
No matter how much effort and energy you put into it.
>> Mhm.
>> No matter how good you get, no matter how high you rise, how much resources are brought to the T, you'll never be able to finally accomplish this thing because it's humanity and civilizational moving forward kind of thing. And that's something not any single individual or even groups of individuals can collectively accomplish no matter how much effort they put in. And it can't be that vague. It has to be some specific aspect of humanity and civilization moving forward.
>> Leaving the world better than you found it.
>> That's right. And you have to change your way in your He can't just vaguely of like I'm going to recycle.
>> Correct. It's got to be >> I think you and I have talked. I think that's Mars for Elon Musk. I think I think he thinks there's a decent chance he'll see it, >> but there's also decent chance he But it's not it's not >> it's not just Mars. It's settlements on Mars.
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's not something It's not something hyper abstract like we're going to Alpha Sentari. He's like I'm not that >> that's the other thing. It's got to be actually possible.
>> There's a chance.
>> There's a chance saying there's a chance. It's not the moon cuz he's like I'll probably see that.
>> Yeah.
>> It's the It's Mars where you're like >> I might.
>> We might.
>> He might.
>> Because well he might. But it's not always just that he might. It's that he might create all this precondition so that the next group does.
>> Well, then that's the point is is you're aiming for a 100 deep down inside knowing you're okay with a 96.
>> Correct. Or even a 66 if it's, you know, moving something that far ahead.
>> Yeah. Right.
>> Yeah. You and I Yeah. You and I have talked about this is is is something that pushes it forward. That >> is nothing that no matter what you achieve, it won't be that. Like I have all my personal goals that are, you know, tied into ego, as much as I think it's like purely benevolent. And then there's things that like I just want to do. Like I want to make enough money on the podcast over however many decades to build a med school and name it after my brother knowing that I'll never see it.
I don't give a [ __ ] I'm not I'm not doing this cuz I'm like bomb part of the insurance apparatus and I I really want to work for Blue Shield. No, I want to build a med school. So there's one more.
Yeah, there's one more. It's better to have more doctors than not. and slap my brother's name on it >> and I don't give a [ __ ] about anything else.
>> But maybe a building in a really good department at a really good med school >> and I also >> sufficient >> and I also might accept it might just be maybe I don't make 500 million on the podcast but maybe before I die I can donate a hundred,000 to the nearby hospital >> and there's not a name it's a it's a brick on a on a sidewalk.
>> Yeah. Or or it's a endowment of a of a chair that that focuses on mental health or something. Yeah. Yeah. Um yeah. So that purpose right that greater purpose. So in the shouldering giants world and really in my life um that purpose of the knighthood is preserving mother to daughter lineal you know matrinal lines because throughout human history until just you know really until the industrial era uh and the latter part of the industrial era and after most assets and wealth and power and relationships and obligations passed down from father to daughter, not father to son. Because fathers and sons were engaged in war and conflict, and their lines broke a lot, a lot. And rarely lasted more than three generations unbroken. And there's a whole lot of those lines that have lasted beyond that that weren't legitimate. They just adopted somebody else's young son, babe, infant son, paid him a little bit of hush money or they legitimized a bastard, you know, one of the bastards.
Uh, which as a bastard I'm not opposed to. If anybody wants to legitimize me.
Yeah. Um, that that is actually of my genetic.
Yeah. That I'm actually of their genetic line, but >> Yeah.
>> Right. But historically uh you know and this is a thing interesting lady reached out to me or through Substack here just one of these interesting conversations her last name is Morgan which was the impetus to write the piece on the Morgan the other day.
Um, historically and still in much of the world and really in the upper middle class and the two upper classes, true upper, you know, the the upper upper classes, lower upper class and the upper upper class, things are still passed down through uh mother to daughter. Most wealth and assets, relationships, you know, obligations, commitments, you know, all of that stuff, power passes down through the female lines. I I saw this in prep school. I dated it in and out. Um I won't mention the families, but a couple old wealthy families. And it's always the the daughter of somebody who's the one that brings everything to the table. Now, the guy's got to be capable and he's got to have something of a pedigree and he's got to work his ass off and he's got to be of value to the family. But throughout most of history, um, most men, you know, really capable men who might even be a king or a prince or a duke or a or, you know, just a a knight or or even some of the uh, early merkantile people, etc. Most of that and look, if you want an example, look at the guilded age and where the the daughters of the guilded age people went. They married into the European royalty and nobility and repllessed up their wealth and rebuilt their house.
So, you know, the point what I'm getting at is that his sto this concept and idea that every it's a man's world is total and absolute [ __ ] >> Why? Why is it because because objectively you look at just I don't think it's deniable. Like what percentage of whatever business tycoons are men and women? You It's undeniably.
Is it because men make a ton and then they go and I'm going to leave it to the wife?
>> Well, what you have to look at is how did that man become a tycoon? Whose wealth did he start with?
>> It's usually the wives or the mothers.
>> But what about a guy and maybe I don't know enough but what about like a Carnegie or a Vanderbilt or what about these >> Carnegie was help being was made by Frick I think is his name. Frick or Frick.
>> Yeah. Frick.
>> Right. So the point is if and you got to look at how did he get his contracts and who who was the one. So it's not just about Okay. So the thing that matrinal dynasties tend to just because of deh statistics alone.
Men die younger, less men have children, men die, you know, uh women tend to remarry, fathers are more likely to leave more wealth to their daughters than they are their sons. All these types of all these societal things, right? At least in the Anglosphere and um the Germanic world portion of European world, right? Um and to some degree the f the Franks as well you know the goal the French right.
Um so I would say you know Germanic and Celtic influenced peoples we have the higher prep. Okay give me one second. Um it is not just that the man had you know had some great idea or concept. He needed the starting capital and he needed the relationships that would open up the door that allowed him to become the power in that industry.
That doesn't you're not you know nobody is self-made.
Nobody. And when you take a look you tend to see in vast majority of the cases that it's the wife or the mother or the grandmother but usually the wife or the mother that opens those doors to those relationships.
Now, the man's still got to walk through and he's still got to have the capacities and he's still got to build it and, you know, and protect it. That's the, you know, the big thing. But it's generally the the wife or the mother that o sometimes sister but usually the wife or the mother that opens the doors that's that's you know ensures that they get the funding necessary or there's a contract at some point or sometime with somebody you know it's and I've watched this in my own lifetime right with straight up billionaires having to answer to their wives and oh by the way some of these billionaires were actually self-made so let me rephrase they weren't made by their mothers or their their wives money, right? They were they were helped and assisted by other people's wives and other people's mothers.
>> Yeah.
>> Right. So, real power and real wealth has always passed down through the female lines, mother to daughter, because those can go unbroken for a thousand years or more.
And we know of five of them in the, you know, us white people world. One of them, the house of Garcend, is over 900 years unbroken. It's probably older, but we don't have records longer than that.
There's the house of Eleanor that's 800 years. Um, and there's several others that are, you know, 3, five, 700 years old. Those are the ones we know of.
There probably others that we don't, you know, that the research hasn't been done on. There are no patrinal lines that come even close, >> right? Father to son, not even close.
Now, there are some that act like it, but they don't really, right? There's a break in them. There was a cuckolding.
There was, you know, the >> Why is it? How does it is it just is it just women remarrying and kind of just >> No, what you have to look at is is bio is biology, which we have to look at is that males die younger.
>> Yeah. No, I don't I don't I don't mean in a disparaging way. I just mean like just if you just remove all motion, just look at the system as as indifferently as you'd look at tic-tac-toe, >> be like, "Yeah, women are going to, you know, husband dies and they're they're going to remarry and keep the family going and find a provider." It's not it's not an inherently bad thing, >> but hang on a second. Hang on. It's not always a provider. That's the thing we need to be we need to stop looking at.
So again, the upper middle class and the lower upper class and the upper class, they don't need a provider. Well, the ones the few I I have met in my life and I know one that I'm pretty sure is like a billionaire. Um, no, I've spoken to Yeah, it wasn't provider, but they did find someone of at least equal value.
>> Pure. Yeah.
>> So, they weren't going to provide for them. So, it's not necessarily provider, but if you've got a billionaire, you're marrying another billionaire if you're a woman.
>> Yeah. No, absolutely true. So there are other things that so historically and still in much of the world what the woman needs what the matrinal line needs as a male that will protect and manage and be that sane force in the house to make sure that that wealth that's being passed down and what is the wealth wealth is really the relationships you know these longstanding proven mutually dependent relationships that those don't get used inappropriately that the woman isn't doesn't you know that her empathy isn't being weaponized against her such that the family's portfolio get you know wealth portfolio and relationships get destroyed or used or abused right and that is a good sire and a good you know father for the children you know and one that can teach the sons to do to be this level of full spectrum protective and that isn't just physical goes way beyond that and is in able to sire you know capable strong daughters.
So the as Rome burns world I talk about all of this going back 800 years back to the 1200s to Elanor Aquitane people can look her up and William Marshall first Lord Pemrook people can look him up we would not have an American constitution today if it wasn't for these two people and specifically Lord Pemrook was born basically a commoner and elevated himself and served five kings and two queens and was at ended his life. Well, he didn't end his life this way. He was 70 years old and led the charge in the battle of Lincoln that prevented the French from conquering the British Isles at the age of 70.
>> That's hardcore.
>> He died afterwards, right? Well, how was he made Lord Pemrook? Well, Eleanor Vquitane and some others made sure that he married into a noble family to a wealthy woman who needed a good husband, right? So the additional, you know, so that's the the main purpose, right? So you know, what is my purpose in life? My purpose in life is to ensure that civilization continues. Okay. Well, that's pretty broad, right? So, for me, it's okay. And I had this messaging with Clay the other day, by the way. You know, h how do you bring the old myths and stories forward to today so that they are still alive with us?
Well, you have to adapt them. you know, this is what movies and all this other stuff and all this abuse of movies and TV and writing, but you you have to bring them forward and tie them into characters today that are living some of the, you know, this is what Joseph Campbell talked about. They're living this mythic kind of way, >> current hero's journey. Yeah.
>> Yeah. and then you know tell those stories in the modern time but then you need to not sterilize them from the past and you need to tie them into the long causal chain of you know how that myth has been playing out not as as as lived reality for people because there's no other way for us to connect with it >> hero's journey isn't just some flower it's a [ __ ] knight going to a castle you got to look at it and every you know ignoring the call and then you know the whatever the you know atonement with the father and the >> the ultimate boon whatever the the [ __ ] the full cycle is but you have it's not just it's not just dragons and Rapunzel or some [ __ ] you have to no >> you have to I find it with like even just like >> and and like doing the podcast I'm like okay here's this here's that like how do I do this and you can you can follow in in all things that's the thing is like everyone can do it and it's that's what you have to find is it's not just some >> abstract act thing.
>> Yeah, totally.
>> Not everyone will do it.
>> Agree can.
>> Correct. Correct. Well, and that that gets back to we each have to set a task that consumes every bit of our energies. Awake or asleep. That is a thing that we might be able to accomplish in life. Probably not, but might be able to. And we have to push as hard as we can for that, you know, to that.
We als it in order for that to be possible though it has to be something that we as an individual with our skills and our limitations and our capacities and the world that we move in are actually capable of.
>> So it's not always Homer's jour, you know, the odyssey.
>> Maybe it's something in your own community or or even in your own you know family that you're you're taking on the burden of some great journey to heal some you know. Oh, the hero hero's journey can be, you know, [ __ ] breaking the chain and and getting sober, >> correct?
>> It can be it can be I'm going to make sure like the kids go to college.
>> It doesn't have to be, >> yeah, you're saving the planet from, you know, whatever. It can be that you're going to Mars.
>> It can be that you're going to be the dad you never had. Like, it's >> Yes, >> it can be whatever you want. It's the same thing. It's >> accept everything you're doing. It's noble. There's more to it than just yourself. you might achieve it. It doesn't have to be a outpost on Mars.
>> It can be back to something we said earlier. It could be the re the loyalty to sanity and the refusal to be to go insane in an insane world.
That takes a hero's journey, right? And the hardest part I I wrote about this the other day. I think if I remember correctly, I wrote it in something. The hardest part of the hero's journey is actually the return home.
>> Yeah.
>> It's not the call. It's not going on the It's not the fighting the It's not >> bringing the treasure home. Whatever the What is it? Living duality. I used to have it like memorized.
>> Yeah. It's how do you you know how do you come back to people who still see you as what you were when you were no longer that and share with them find the way the complex unbelievably difficult ways to share what you've learned and found when they don't want any part of it.
That's the hardest part of the hero's journey is where most people fail, right? They just never return home >> fully. There's that and then there's also the for me at least it's like getting the acknowledgement that you know I don't care if people believe me that's one thing is >> well that's a a cope >> okay >> because the hero's journey cannot complete and you cannot be a hero an actual hero and what does it mean >> it's not self-evident >> if you don't come home and you don't go through that hard freaking process of right >> gotcha of bringing the boon back to those who don't want it because it's that part that forces you to the final full trans, you know, transformation of self, you know, and it is that, you know, people think heroes and they think Achilles and they think these others.
No, these are great people. These weren't heroes, you know, people that had to go out into the wild and cha challenge all of their assumptions, all of their beliefs, all of everything and fight the demons internally and externally such that they could get to base reality to sanity and then come back and figure out how to help the their community, their family, whatever it may, their partner, whatever it may, or their their country or whatever or their civilization to to come to sanity. That's the hero's journey. Those are the ones that are heroes, right? I I know some Medal of Honor winners and youth call them a hero and they get really uncomfortable.
So, one of the things that, you know, one of the things that the insane have done is convinced us that these larger than life actions that somebody does is what makes you a hero. No, that is heroic. Absolutely.
But it's the ones who quietly, privately, secretly go out and challenge the insanity and find sanity. That's which requires connection to base reality.
And that means giving up a lot of things, a lot of beliefs, a lot of comforts, a lot of relationships, a lot of opportunities, a whole lot of everything.
And that generally forces somebody to have a psychic, you know, psychotic psychic. Not psychotic, but you know, psychic psychological neuro emotive break at some point and they got to get through that.
>> Yeah. Campbellane.
>> Campbell didn't put that part. The whole implosion.
>> Correct.
>> They he left that out. The multi-year slowburn panic attack dip into psychosis. So I personally think that's the actual journey home portion.
>> Okay. Yeah.
>> I think that's when that when that happens and then you're able finally, you know, to step back in as a holy form sane person and it's only then that you're able to come home and communicate and share with others.
>> Yeah.
>> Right. Because the only way for the sane to complete the journey home is they have to go through insanity themselves and come back to or come to finally themselves sanity. So that then and which requires reality you know base reality such that they can come back to their community whatever scale that is and help that individuals there on their own hero's journey or just overall to be more sane >> right there's an old saying right that you know that young and Freud went in to develop psycho uh psychotherapy and all of the things that they did because they were quite literally trying to become sane, right? That they were going through this journey themselves that they went through insanity, you know, as a means to try and understand the insanity and then they worked, they developed these mechanisms and tools to try and come to sanity. That was their journey home, part of their hero's journey. No. Freud used an excessive amount of cocaine which helped him a lot.
>> I don't challenge that. Good cocaine back then. Yeah. No baby laxative.
>> Yeah. No, it's it's it's I think I think we've talked about that. Yeah. There's the stoner society, the alcoholic society, and the st society.
>> The stimulus society. Yeah.
>> No, it's Yeah.
>> Yeah. Not that I'm, you know, they use >> I've never I've never done cocaine, but I love stimulants. I love caffeine. I love that. That's why I exercise before.
Has nothing to do with health.
Like you get be jacked up like it >> makes me tired.
>> Well, that's why I do the podcast immediately after.
>> Yeah, I got you. So, you're still jacked up?
>> I'm still jacked up around the end of this show is when I then go face down >> crash. Yeah.
>> But no, that that's that's what that's what gets you there. And yeah, the coming back that's kind of the Apollo 13 aspect of it. Like it's like how do I get back down safely now?
>> Yeah. Yeah. So this is what the shoulder and giants series is about, right? Is this hero's journey of our civilization and specifically for me although it touches on all you know Russian and and um uh Chinese and French and other you know civilizational peoples and cultures. Um but you know I'm I'm an Anglo through and through right? So you know as an American as the all the founding stock Americans were uh and much of us even after um give me one second. So the the the shouldering giants universe the first novel is Azone Burns. that's available now is that hero's journey and so the next you know the next novel so the the first one took us back you know it's in the modern era but it goes back over things 800 years and it really explains a lot of these things that people are seeing I wrote as a serial um over two years publishing one chapter at a time and I would write each chapter keeping the storyline going but I would write each chapter as things were popping up in Twitter or other things that people I knew were were genuine agents, you know, or not agents but actors, you know, people who were honest brokers is the word is looking for the term, right? I people who were honest brokers were trying to plot through some complex space out there. And so I would sit down and think about that and then I would write that as, you know, uh component pieces of the narrative or or plot uh uh points in that chapter.
So, Azer Burns covers the last 800 years up to today about where's all this come from and what the hell's going on and who are the, you know, main factions and all of that kind of stuff. The next um the next, you know, so that's the call to, you know, in the hero's journey, right? That's the call to and and the initial part of the journey and the fir, you know, the supports, the mystical support, all that. The next novel as England Burns, what I just started writing, first chapters up for subscribers uh on X and uh paid subscribers on Substack. It'll be free here in the next week or so that goes into the conflicts, the actual, you know, the actual facing the demons, facing the enemy, facing etc. uh and the first part of the journey home and the final will be the actual journey you know the the final novel will be and which I think it's probably going to be as the world burns is going to be the final journey home.
So we're we have a channel I have a channel called uh New Nobility on YouTube. I'm starting to trying to get content up there. It's I was working with a team of people but every every other video I was doing they were jacking up the price. Okay, we're not doing this.
>> Um, I think I got a a friend of mine's daughter. She's brilliant and very creative, so I think she's going to take on the task here. Um, we're talking later today.
>> Um, so we'll start putting content there. Um, there's Lord Rothbury is the main character in the first novel and the next next novel, uh, the current one I'm writing. So, the pre Azone Burns as England Burns. There's a lord robury.com website. It's got the restoration proclam declaration proclamation declaration and protocol on it. Um my own YouTube which I'm just tinkering with really. Um, but what we're doing right now, and we're launching here soon to subscribers, uh, paid subscribers, is we're we've been custom training a large language model, an LLM on all of the works that I've done, starting with as ro um, uh, the eternal war.
So we have a what we've been working on is an AI that people can query things and it will be >> uh the responses will be in the context of how how I think how the shouldering giants world the eternal war concepts and ideas of underlying how so I talked to the team yesterday.
Funny thing, both of these guys were um in first special forces group. Uh and one of them was actually in my unit. I don't think he was in the SIF with me, but we were in Ako together. But funny thing how how smart some of these special operations guys are, how nerdy.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh and capable. Right. So, uh we should be launching the LLM here to subscribers, paid subscribers in the next couple weeks. maybe in the next week and then we're going to do some one, you know, some one-on-one sessions with people and all, you know, really start building out this world. And I was up in Montana here last weekend talking maybe two weeks, time runs together, as you know, um to a movie producer, you know, an all-around TV movie producer and his team and we might do a little series around shouldering giants.
I need to train an LLM on my podcast.
>> You can you can >> I mean I'm not going to I will not lift a finger to do it. But I mean as as an idea I guess you could do it and see like how would I interview I don't know people in historical that's not a novel idea. I'm so sure somebody's come up with that.
>> Well the way in which you do it is you training the LM. So I want to be more precise a little more precise for the people that uh are sticklers for such.
We're not training the LLM. We're using uh somebody else's LLM.
Um what we are doing is we are using agents that interface with the LLM and revisit the output of the well they revisit the query that somebody's putting in to help refine it more in the context of the the overall world. And then you know the way in which I process the world um and those around me uh process the world and then the react the results that come back from the underlying LLM are then revisited by additional agents to to retool you know refine that output in the context of the various books and articles and stuff that I've written right and then link that to other s you know other publications other sources papers, you know, research, etc. So that, you know, there's validation of verification for the things I say. It's not just out of my >> Yeah.
>> [ __ ] third point of contact.
>> Yeah.
>> Is it possible that >> a couple more couple more minutes? Yeah.
It's like I said, my my brain's just cooked by the end of the second show. Is it possible that the I would imagine not possible. It probably is that civilization itself is going through its hero's journey and we could it's probably done it a zillion time. That's the other thing about the hero's journey is if you do finish it you're supposed to start again is are we coming back down from World War I and we're trying to and it's like well what do we learn from that? We did try the total war thing. We did and we even then obviously >> for a century >> Yeah. And then obviously as it's been poetically pointed out, you know, Matt, we we went mad. The mutual share of destruction.
>> You could say that there's a a plus side to that. Like we did it was it's not just an idea that we shouldn't do that.
Like no, no, no. We did. We did. We tried in World War I.
There was no point where we'll be like, "Well, we wouldn't do that." No, we'll we'll drop chlorine gas and we'll [ __ ] burn your throat out. Like, okay, >> we'll all switch. We'll [ __ ] >> Oh, yeah. Oh, we'll do it all. And like, >> you know, and we'll develop Yeah. We'll build tens of thousands of nuclear warheads. Yeah. No, we'll be able to blow up the You wouldn't blow up the world. Oh, we'll make sure we can do it 10 times over in 30 minutes. Like, >> yeah, we dropped two on Japan for no reason. They've already surrendered.
>> Yeah. And it's like that might this might be its own like maturation process.
>> Well, let me Tommy, not not to stop you.
I want you to continue, but I No, no, but I want to add a critical piece there. We also did the opposite where we just gave up everything, surrendered everything and we just said whatever is whatever whatever you want to be is whatever you want to be. Yeah.
>> Right. So we did we went the opposite direction.
>> Total war. Total >> total just not even >> total surrender.
>> Yeah. But not not in a good way of like of like go with the flow. Literally just like no >> anything goes.
>> Not only no borders but like no borders on reality. Like that's a guy, >> that's a woman. This is peace. This is And hey, you know what? You want a genitals, you want to mutilate some kids genitals, go for it.
>> This isn't happening, but it is. And it's a good thing. It total, we've tried that, too.
>> Correct. So, >> it's you got to come back down >> to reality to the middle. Yeah.
>> And what is reality? The reality is that we are we are an animal species >> and there is human nature.
And it is varied, but it's knowable. And it's been known for thousands of years.
And much of what our ancestors knew and much of what they coded into our civilization as checks and balances and control mechanisms must be there or we devol or we devolve into nuclear war where everybody dies or we devolve into mutilating six-year-olds genitals. It's like these things happened. It's not, you know, supposition anymore.
>> Not theoretical.
>> It's not theoretical, right? and the and the fact that it didn't burn us all to the ground in, you know, either, you know, >> one or the other.
>> Global Lord of the Flies or freaking nuclear blast, you know, nuclear holocaust is a [ __ ] miracle.
>> Well, that's the thing is, yeah, it's I think if you were to somehow have a a god's eye view of every, you know, every movement of every bit of matter in the universe, you'd find a lot of Earth analoges that they did go too far one way.
>> Yes.
>> It's not guaranteed that you make it.
tense or anything that no it is possible that like yeah no that you know Kennedy you know he listened to lame and said nuke Cuba >> absolutely >> all ended right there so now that's an interesting thing because human nature also kicked in right the other aspects of human nature kicked in and we didn't go to the extremes on either one of those sides that's another so what people need to you know to to what you said and Tommy you got right to it exactly what you're talking about is exactly what I'm what I'm doing is I'm writing the the this novel now as England Burns but you got to read as Rome Burns to get the context of the hero's journey so far right which for us in the Anglosphere and and really the French as well because of our 500y year running [ __ ] war between us um give me one second the hero's journey for us civiliz izationally began in the 1200s.
And so you really got early 1200s, late 1100s, early 1200s. So you really got to go back there to the beginning of that hero's journey. We're now coming, and this is what Campbell talked about.
Campbell said, we're moving to a fourthbased myth system that takes 2,000 to 4,000 years. Right? Okay. Where we are right now as a very good astute observation, Tommy, is we are now just beginning the journey home portion. And that's going to take time. It's going to probably take a couple centuries, but all of the initial portions of it are starting now, right? The heavy lifting is going to is starting now. And so that's what I'm writing about in as England Burns. What we need to remember realize is that the greatest conflicts in the hero's journey are not out fighting the monsters, out fighting the Minotaur, none of that. The be biggest fights that we take on are always at the beginning of the journey home.
>> Right. Right. And that's the internal fight and then the external fight as we are, you know, and you know to Homer and the Iliad. Right. Or the Odyssey, right?
It's the Iliad, right?
>> Been away from school for Huh.
>> He wrote there's two I thought those are two different things.
>> The Iliad and the Odyssey. Yeah. So the Anyways, >> we're all the epic. Yeah, whatever the [ __ ] >> Whatever. I've been out of school for too long. U anyways, whatever. Um the one that they're Nolan's doing the movie about right now.
>> Oh god. Yeah.
>> Odyssey, right? It's the Odyssey, right?
>> I'm not sure.
>> I think it's Anyways, whatever.
>> The the point I'm getting at is that in the Odyssey, if I remember correctly, and again, it's been decades since I read it. Um he came home and he had to fight when he got home cuz there was freeloaders living in his house. I mean it's almost as perfect for today.
>> Yeah.
>> And he had to go and fake that he was you know poor guy etc. And you know there was freeloaders living in his home in his kingdom. They were telling all kinds of lies etc. And he had to you know he had to go machinate and all that. Kick him out. There was this whole conflict and struggle and fight. the one he had to do the most. He couldn't take on with physical stren force of arms. He had to use this reality based sanity to figure out how to remove the insane from his own kingdom and his own house. Well, that's where we are as a people.
>> The Russians have already been through it. The Chinese are culminating it, right? And we're just beginning it now.
the rest of the and I mean America the rest of the Anglosphere isn't even close to you know isn't there yet but that's because America is now the lead of the Anglosphere firmly right so uh well we're not quite assured just yet but yeah very astute observation that's what I'm writing uh is the return portion of the journey home and in my own life my father's old now um I've been gone for a long time and we've had some difficulties in our we're very very different. I am moving down the road a couple miles to be within walking quick walking distance of my parents house so that I can take a certain portion of my journey home and that is go walk with my father for a while and and talk >> literally one of the things right the atonement with the father. Yeah.
>> Correct. Right. And that's not going to be easy because we are very different.
No, it's it's it's I was going to say just from like my own experiences and like when I say I was OCD in college, I mean like it's not like a meme. I mean legitimately >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Like like implosion if you know you wake up 3 minutes late. But I looked at that and I took that and I was like, what if I just apply this this insane military rigidity for a couple years? Like what would happen? And I got down to like 4% body fat, like 4.0 GPA, the meds, the whole thing.
>> Yeah. And then I did the inverse right when I did I graduated and I decided that wasn't going to go and then lost my brother. I did the total surrender thing but not in like a good way. I mean gained 70 lbs, drugs, alcohol, just total [ __ ] up. And then the getting to the podcast in 2019 was like going back and not going all the way. It was like it was like it's going to take a lot of hard work and rigidity.
But then it wasn't as simple as well if I pass OKM this semester and every class is in a six-month period and you can neatly look out. It was it's insanity.
It's like I'll start the thing and maybe if I work hard and it's like well I wasn't planning on a global pandemic.
[ __ ] Like and I wasn't planning on now there's a moral thing of like well do I talk out against this and I have access to the do and then the whole >> and then yeah the Biden everything >> and it is it it required both. that requires the rigidity of like no, you got to get up and work. You got to you got to put hard work towards it.
>> But then there's also this odd looseness of where >> let it be.
>> I come to every show, as you know, I come to show and just like >> I bring a I bring a perfect canvas and the canvas is clean and white and perfectly measured, >> but I have no idea what's going on. It college me wouldn't be able to handle that. I would I would freak out. I'd be like, "What are we doing? What exactly are we talking point points sub points?
It's none of that. And and again, it's like, so which one's better? Neither.
They both led to an implosion of their own sort. And both of them get close to it, and you can't go all the way over because eventually you go, "Oh, this I I can't keep con. Okay, I'm looking at the edge of the cliff now." You're like, "All right, that is a cliff. That's not It's not a mirage. I'm not sleepd deprived. That it's Yeah, that's 10,000 foot drop." And the other one is the same thing and you have to come back and it is objectively so much more difficult than just getting in med school was just it was an external enemy. You just have to beat it the [ __ ] [ __ ] >> That was your lame moment.
>> Yeah, it was >> that was your lame world.
>> Yeah, it was.
>> Then you went to the >> And then I did the far left. Could chop your genitals off. Like literally it was like >> Yeah. The wokest. Yeah.
>> Didn't matter. Nothing matters. Like I'll just wear [ __ ] like fat clothes every day. it doesn't matter. And then the answer is like it's somewhere in between the middle >> so much. That's why I and I had him on, but that's why I've always kind of looked up to Joe Kent was like >> here's this guy like a you or a Dale or a Clay >> for for a lot of his life his issues could be solved with shooting in the face.
>> Yeah. And it's like one reason I've always admired him is cuz he came back and like he just said on my show he's like the most unenjoyable thing ever is like putting on a suit and being like all right how do I navigate this with words like but that's why I admire him so much. Yeah.
>> He's in his journey home and >> I'm trying I'm trying to bully him to run for president. He's not taking the bait. So I'm going to continue pushing >> this show is your journey >> thousand%. This is my Freud cycle and now it's like oh you made this podcast.
I'm like, this podcast is just kind of a happen stance security camera that's been running as I'm fighting my >> quite what I mean. That's not quite what I mean. What I mean is that >> the hardest part of come returning home is to one get to base reality and sanity real sanity that we can hold and then bring that to bring that knowledge that and and what is the knowledge?
>> You know what does the golden fleece represent? The golden fleece represents, you know, when you put it on, what does it bring you? Sanity, >> right? But that's not easy in an insane world. It's not easy in an uncertain world. Right? Most people are insane not because they're insane. They're insane because they can't handle an uncertain world. What's that quote where it's like, if your peace is dependent on everything going right, that's not peace. That's control.
>> Yeah. That was college, bae.
>> Yeah. Which was insanity >> with versus now.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I'd say a huge part of this is like I always used to think like I'll get the podcast big enough and then I'll make enough money that I can like remove all of my problems. And I'm finally like no, you do need money. That's the balance. But I'm like, >> no, no, no, no.
>> The metric.
>> Yeah, sure you need some. You do need it. You can't be a [ __ ] idiot. But like >> what's really helped me especially since like stop drinking alcohol, stop loss, stop gaining weight.
>> I'm like have those fixed everything know they've helped a lot.
>> What I'm coming to peace with is like oh like it is just that is the nature of this reality is I don't know everything can work out well and then you get a call that your [ __ ] family just died in a car crash.
>> [ __ ] >> And sitting with that >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. So this is why we have to have a daily ritual.
>> Right? And what is that ritual? Sanity.
>> It's letting go noise, right? That ritual specifically has to be around.
Now it could be reading your Bible. It could be reading Zen, you know, could be meditation. Could be prayer. Whatever it is for you, but it's a way of letting go the artificial world and the artificial reality to, you know, >> scaffolding.
>> Try to get to something. That's okay.
I'm I'm connected to reality. That's what your ritual's got to be about.
letting go, right? Get to something bigger, right? To me, it's the divine.
It's the old gods and it's the divine, right? Everywhere. That's everywhere.
Okay? You have to have some. So, that's the ritual. You have to have some structure. There has to be some structure of how you go through your day every day. It doesn't have to be exactly rigid, but there are certain things that you need to accomplish every day.
>> Mhm.
>> Right. Now, what times, you know, doesn't mean have to be set hours. No, no, no. There's like five things, seven things, three things, whatever it is, right? We can't handle more than about seven, but there has to be, you know, three to seven things that no matter what, no matter what time or where they go, and they don't have to be in certain order, etc., but you get those done every day. You do them every day, right?
And then the third thing is that you have to have a purpose larger than anything you could ever possibly accomplish in your life, but you might.
>> Yeah, >> you might. But that has to that to determine what that is because this is where a lot of people go insane too is they very much what you touched on. You you got it.
You have to have a thing that is actually a thing that you could do that is natural to you that makes sense to you at the scale and in the scope and in the size of a person that you are in the world.
Not some imaginary being. Not I if you know if I'm if they've just saw me as their equal I could do no no no no no we are who and what we are where and where we are you know we are who and what we are where we are at the moment that we are that might change a bit over life but we can only accomplish the things you know we can only seek to achieve great things based off of what we're those things that are accomplishable by what we are right Now that might change a little bit later but we have to be honest with ourselves about what are the things that I can act what is the great task that I can set myself that's actually feasible that I could possibly possibly succeed at >> and then you have to maximize that by going so it's not just like oh I enjoy it you can't do that but it also it also can't just be >> it's actually got to suck to a certain degree >> well you can't just brute force That's the thing is I like most shows I do.
>> Yeah.
>> Every day I do wake up and I go, I don't want to do a show today.
>> I woke up today, I'm like, I don't want to do a show today. Who am I talking to?
Em and Joe Kent. Yeah, those are both great shows. Why don't I want to do it?
Cuz I'm a human and I would rather not get out of the warm bed. It's not like a This is what it is. I'm like, I would rather eat McDonald's and take Vicodin than go to the gym. That being said, I'm going to go to the Right.
>> So, you want double constipation.
Exactly. You [ __ ] myself cuz I'm so full of it. But like do that. But then it's also like I look at college me. I'm like you can brute force a lot. I'll tip my hat to 21-year-old me. I'm like you can you can brute force a lot.
>> You can't do all of it. And so if you want to maximize it and this is something you come back to and it's I've always agreed with even before I started the podcast was you have to make it play.
>> You do ultimately that's where I always come back to.
>> So when people are like you should do it this way, you should do it that way. I'm like, the thing that gives my podcast longevity is at the end of the day, 51% or greater of the time, I do enjoy it.
And that's what allows me to keep going week after month after year after. You can't get disgruntled by a bad month or a bad year of revenue because you I'm going to keep doing it cuz I like it.
Why do I always go to the gym? I like how it makes me feel. I like how it makes me look and I don't have to do it ultimately. That's why. And I've been doing it every day for >> Well, and and when you go, you feel better about yourself for having done it, >> right?
>> It's not for sports. It's not for some measurement of like, well, what are your delto? Like, I don't [ __ ] know.
>> It's to add play into it. And I think that's >> it's like Elon Musk, it's like he's grinding towards this. He's working his ass off, but there's also a level of you can tell he's like he's also geeked.
>> Yeah.
>> Which is what he wants to do.
>> Yeah.
>> Right. And I think that's what So many things come off of that, right? So >> my my specific single task my whole life since I was 7 years old and I specifically set myself on this task is I've been trying to specifically understand what does it mean to be human and how do I bring that to other people.
It fires every moment of my life since I was 7 years old. So 52 years now. And it's consumed every bit of my energy my whole life. No matter what was going on, ups, downs, chaos, everything, right?
Good times, bad times, all of it. You just triggered something I think we should we should probably end on, right?
Um, you just triggered a thought in me that I hadn't really put in this context before, but the sanity seeking reality for responsibles in the context of the eternal war and as Rome burns and should giants world. But the sanity seeking reality of responsibles is the infinite game.
They accept that the eternal war is there and it's always there and that chaos and that destruction and that you know that's always there. We're always going to have to pay. But you know when we are completing our journey home we're we are come coming back figuring out how we can bring some play some sanityinducing play into this just [ __ ] eternal war. Right.
>> Yeah.
So that's the you know and I hadn't put it quite I hadn't brought this hero's journey back to that kind of right but every responsible every person who is genuinely responsible whether they're adoptable you know responsibility oriented adoptable or a straightup adop or responsible every one of them has to go through some form of the hero's journey their own hero's journey and what what they have to figure out in the return portion, the journey home portion of that is how do I bring some play that induce, you know, how do I bring back play in the infinite through the infinite game that helps people connect with sanity >> with the sane because the sane world is the infinite game. The insane world is the eternal war.
You got to have the spoonful of sugar.
You got to make it right. You got to have some >> Well, I don't want the cra the insulin dump afterwards. But >> no, the spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down is what I mean. Yeah.
Like you got to got to have the chase or whatever the the the Coke to the whiskey. Like you got to have something that >> Well, I think of it slightly I I understand where you're going, but I I think of it slightly differently, right?
um when you're out on the range or you're out working with horses or you're you're doing some marshall thing or you're in business and you're doing some deal or you know etc. It's the little successes, right? The little oh aha moments, the little oop oh that that works that's playful that oh I just did that right?
Those come with these neurological rewards, this biohysiological rewards that are bet more than any caffeine or drug or anything could ever give you.
So, you know, I I've watched it when I was in ath in sports, you know, in high school and afterwards when somebody figured out some little tweak to something they were doing and they got like just this tiny little bit more performance or they were able to see something just slightly faster than they could before and there's just like this joy in them.
>> Yeah. and and they want to share it with everybody and it doesn't work for anybody else.
>> Yeah.
>> Right. It works for them.
>> But in the video games, people call it new strat or new meta.
>> Yeah.
>> Like it's >> Huh. What is this? What is this thing?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> That's what I mean by spoonful of sugar is a is it's a dopamine. It's an electricity that makes you go >> serotonin or dopamine.
>> You sit up. You go. All right.
>> All right. What is this? Okay. That's what I make it less painful. I mean, like in the podcast when I find a way to I'm like, "If I do this, that brings a little more in on Patreon." You're like, "Okay, >> okay." You get a little mad scientist.
You're like, "Hold on." Like, >> it Yeah. Very good, Tommy. Yeah. Very good. Very good. Um, give me a second.
Something was there. Ah, back to the hero's journey, right? Um, >> give me one second. It was right there.
Yeah. Yeah. Hold on a second.
>> Here's Journey. Spoonful of sugar on the range.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Uhhuh. Uh uh. The journey home portion is is not always about bringing some boon to others in the form of something you give them.
Sometimes the the boon that you give them, right, the elixir, the whatever that you bring to them is you moving through their world and remaining sane no matter what's going on. And how do you do that? You play >> serious play, but you play. You don't take it too serious. You don't connect to it too much. You don't Why? Because I've just been through all this hell and this is nothing, right?
>> Yeah. A lightness of Yeah. I don't care.
>> Well, you do care, but this this doesn't matter, right? This this doesn't matter.
>> Not you don't care, but you found you found through the whole thing, you're like pure rigidity doesn't work.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> And so there is a level >> free floating without being anchored to reality doesn't work either.
>> It's like and I always say on this show and I and it it sounds kind of unrelated and people are like that's a diversions, but they're like when why are you so relaxed about her? Why do you not like I I never get nervous interviewing any >> and I I I don't mean to like sometimes like take the oxygen out of the room but I'm like >> yeah I buried my brother dude I I look at all this it's like I don't really care >> like I do I >> you almost buried yourself I didn't >> correct >> right >> I care deeply about this and the things I want to do with it and you know the whatever >> but there's a level of like >> yeah I I don't you know I do care but I also understand like hey man you can accomplish the end goal get into med school get the girl get everything and you're like, "Fuck yeah." And then it's like, "Oh." And then side note, so your brother just killed himself. You're like, "Excuse me."
>> The guys that the guys that die in gunfights are the guys that get uptight about the gunfight.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. It's >> right. It's the guys that take the gunfight serious. They're the ones, you know, too serious, right? But the guys that take the gunfight serious, the ones that die. The time to take a gunfight serious is when you're training for a gunfight. Take that [ __ ] serious.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Still got to be somewhat playful to find the little oo that's a little improvement, etc. Right. But when you're facing the gunfight, you're getting ready for the gunfight. Don't take that [ __ ] serious.
>> Yeah.
You got to have a It's was it the Balmer curve? Steve Balmer. You ever read about that? He's like the co-founder of Microsoft or something.
>> Yeah, I know who he is. Yeah.
>> They found that after 1.16 beers, >> the error rate of coders dropped by like 98%.
something insane.
>> Yeah.
>> And it quickly then it quickly it gets destroyed once you hit like 1.2 beers.
>> Yeah.
>> But there's a level of if you just you care.
>> Yeah.
>> But you're a little You got a little bit of like a muscle.
So everything, all of the great cathedrals, all of the great works of art, all of the great battles, all of the great things in human history were accomplished by people who were at least slightly buzzed, if not just outright smash drunk.
>> Yeah.
>> Literally across thousand. And when has everything gone to [ __ ] Since prohibition. When we got uptight about all this [ __ ] [ __ ] >> Yeah. Yeah.
>> And you know, we we have a saying in in the mil well, us older guys have a saying in the military. The military stopped winning wars when the two martini lunch went away.
>> Yeah. I mean, Groom Lake is famous for everybody just being like shitfaced back in the 60s.
>> Yeah.
>> There is a level of being a little >> I don't know. It's I look at it >> playful. Playful.
>> Playful. But ultimately what it is is it's a is it's a per performance enhancer. Yes, >> you're a little relaxed.
>> You let go.
>> There's a little part of you that >> you're not You can't [ __ ] up. I can't [ __ ] up. Don't [ __ ] up. Don't >> There has to be a little level of like, yeah, >> and it's not that you don't care. You care deep.
>> No, no, no.
>> But you're also you also care enough to go like, "Yeah, I don't." I think Dale said it once. Yeah. Dale's like, "I'm all cocky." He's at the time he's the youngest member ever of Delta Force and he's like one of the first things he was in like a Humvey or something >> and some I think bullet hit the head seat the headrest and went right through it and he was like >> oh okay >> I'm not I'm the tip of the spear I'm the best there's ever been. You almost just got oneshotted by some dude in you know Jordan with a 50 IQ. You're like noted.
>> Yeah.
>> Got it. know >> he probably wasn't even shooting at you.
>> Probably was not. Probably didn't even know he had a gun. Yeah, it's it's Yeah, it's >> Yeah, you know, um Mike Durant said it, look back, but don't stare. I think that's another way to say it is you look back but you don't stare. You go, okay, >> the past is gone, right? And the future doesn't exist yet. There is only the now.
>> Yeah. And unfortunately, you know, just to tie this bring, you know, we as a species really we as a civilizational people and I again I can only speak for the Anglosphere because that's what I know, that's what I'm born into, come from, etc. I do understand a bit the franophile world, you know, the the French world because I lived there and I studied French and studied the history and we fought them for hundreds of years and you know, so we have some shared history. So I can understand that a little bit. Um but the the civilization society I really understand is the anglosphere and we lost our freaking minds finally after a long journey lost our freaking minds in World War I. That was the final, you know, and then across the 20th century and we're now, you know, having to start the journey home.
And what is that? That is the return to sanity.
>> Mhm.
>> And that's not going to be an easy journey. And there's going to be a fight, bloody fight, right? Because, give me a second. The insane have risen up. You know, all of our incentive structures are insane. They favor the insane. And they're not going to let those incentive structures go away because then they are impoverished. Then they are going to have to become sane in order to survive.
>> And so that's going to be a fight. And we can't force you know very much to what you you know generally you're articulating that's not sanity is not something you can force on anybody. They have to come to it themselves and they have to come to it by watching you know very much your journey uh mine and other people's journeys is we came through insanity back to sanity or maybe for the first time to actual sanity on our own and we have to live it and talk it don't preach it don't proitize it just hey this is the truth this is what happened >> yeah when I look at just Like for me, my like I guess understanding of like for like years I always wanted to just like stop drinking just to just to like do it. I want to lose weight just to do it >> and tried and failed so many times and I look at now and I'm like what's changed now is the difference is like I don't I don't yearn for it versus now I go yeah alcohol is always fun but man I like waking up feeling good and it's like nothing that you could have ever I like I know that objectively >> or it's like yeah you know what I you know My diet's disgusting of just disgusting healthy food. But yeah, I don't really I would much rather have this and look this way and feel this way than have the Big Mac. And like you can you can't put that on paper. You can't convince yourself of it. You eventually do have to reach the point of you're like like I look back now I could never understand like the older guys the older at the time were like they were 23 we were 19 that like didn't want to go get drunk six days a week and you can't be taught it. You just have eventually have to be like, "No, college is fun.
>> You couldn't. You put a gun on my head.
I would not go to a frat party. That sounds miserable." No, >> that sounds You want to go to this bar with a bunch of dumb [ __ ] drunk sority girls yapping? No, dude.
>> Not at all. I'm going to go to bed early.
>> Like, you can't be t you. You ha you have to reach that on your own.
However, we do those who are at some advanced state in their journey or have even completed although I suspect the hero's journey is never actually completed. I think the journey home step is the is the it consumes the remainder of our lives quite literally. I think it consumes the remainder of lives till probably the last few years or even just the last minutes. Um it's that difficult and that complex.
Those of us that are have taken the journey, accepted it and are in some advanced states of it, we do need to provide guidance here and there of here are some hard limits and here's what's going to cost if you do go across those.
You got to do what you got to do. But you know there because when we are younger or when we're insane, we don't have thatformational base to know that there are actual limits on reality, you know, reality imposed limits.
Right.
>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's But even then, you have to those are more like I don't know.
>> Say you take it. It's like a mentor, right? Like I had guys in special operations in the military when I was young or even older and they would be like, "Hey man, you take this as you will, but you know, here's this is this and or hey, you know what? You're doing that. Got it. But have you looked at this?"
>> Yeah. For me, it's more of like a like a frequently asked questions page or something. Like it's there and you got to provide it and it's your duty to provide it.
>> But if you want the people that are going to want it, they're going to go look for that.
>> You can't force that on someone. You have to put it there and be like, if you want this, here it is. It's >> um >> yeah I would say so if you're just kind of getting into you know bigger and bigger fractal cycles of this hero's journey you could argue that you know something like amemedley butler or Dwight Eisenhower even now a Joe Kent of we're having this like hey you can't we can't do the empire around the world non-stop forever even if we have the might America's shown hey we'll we'll bomb you to [ __ ] hell at a certain point you have to go Okay. No, we got to we got to >> we got to bring this back this way.
>> And that's kind of what I feel is happening just from our country on some macro or microcosm.
>> Yeah. So I again not to put this on an individual basis although I agree those are mandal brought like fractals down beneath but I do believe that the anglosphere is coming is now firmly on now we still may lose >> is now firmly on the journey home which is we the anglophere are returning to sanity >> we now >> which and that sanity terribly sorry but that sanity is our civilization We want to get better.
>> We want to get better.
>> And that's it.
>> Well, and we've been working on it.
We've been steadily, you know, working on it and doing hard work. And we've been fighting the demons internally and externally. And we want all of us to get better, as many of us as possible.
>> We want, let me clarify, we want to get better and we're willing to do it. You always want to be like, I wish I was better.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. It's fine. There was a point though like living at home with my parents where I finally realized I'm like, >> "Oh, I want to improve my life." Not just because I feel like I'm a burden on my family. I'm like, >> "Oh, I want to I I'm like the time I'm like I'm 25. I'm 30. Like, wait, I want to do this. I want to keep going." And like that's what it is is like, "Okay, like I I I want to give that means you're going to have to diet for two years." I'm like, you know, I I get it, but >> yeah, I want to do it now. Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, very much to that, Tommy. Um, the want to get better is the acceptance that there isn't a pill or a vote or something that's going to make that there's a, you know, an easy route through a pill or a vote >> is when you finally accept that, hey, if you want to build muscle, you you're just going to be in pain and hate.
>> You're going to have to tear muscle to build muscle.
>> There's a guy I see in the gym every morning and he sees me like he always sees me coming. He's like he's like he always ask cuz I've been at it for so long. He's like, "You always look so like unhappy when you arrive." I'm like, "I just hate it every day." He'll see me because I I'll get there and like my warm up right now is is 95 push-ups and 20 pull-ups. He'll see me. I'll come in and he's like, "You're just kind of like shaking your head." And I'm like, "Yeah." I'm sitting there like I don't come on.
>> It like doesn't get easier. I'm like, "No."
>> Yeah.
>> And that's the point.
>> But I'm still showing up every day because like I want the thing. But like >> Yeah. It's where you realize you're like, "Oh, there isn't a secret worker.
What's the tip? I don't know. It You're gonna just hate every second of it.
>> Just okay. [ __ ] you know, whatever.
>> Um, but yeah, like I know I tell you as a beforeand I'm like I have I have an hour in me tops just went for 90 minutes so I'm a [ __ ] liar. Um, >> no I I I got to you I forced you to go longer.
>> You did. That's the That's the money or or the Israel. No, I forgot. No, we none of them are paying me. Um, >> nobody.
>> Yeah, I'm certainly not.
>> Yeah. No, nobody's [ __ ] paying me.
It's I don't know. Maybe I Maybe I should lobby the Irish government.
>> Oh, god.
>> You know, >> you're going to sell out the Irish is because that's the only thing the Irish government >> because they're not even supporting.
Yeah.
>> No, I was just on the phone with Ireland this morning.
>> Yeah.
>> Maybe I need to get the IRA to fund my podcast.
>> Yeah, that's the MI6. So, let's not do that.
>> [ __ ] me. All right, never mind.
>> I do realize that whole troubles was intelligence >> like everything and realiz >> there is no shortcut. I'm just going to I can't find an Irish terrorist organization. I'm just going to have to keep doing shows. [ __ ] man.
>> There you go. There you go.
>> Well, yeah, we'll wrap it up. Send me cuz I got your I've got your YouTube and your your Twitter and your sub. I don't think I have your website. Send me the website.
>> Just it's just my name.com.
>> All right.
>> Yeah, that's for signed copies. People don't want to pay for the extra cost for signed copies. They go to Amazon. The books are there.
>> All right. Well, let's wrap this [ __ ] up, dude. As always, >> enjoyable. Thank you so much, guys.
Thank you for watching. Take care, everybody. Stop.
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