“Life Needs a Giver” — Watch This Fall Apart

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[00:00:00]Do you agree with with my prompt here that God is not real or do you think God is real?

[00:00:04]>> Um the concept God the name the titles are things that are made by man's mind.

[00:00:11]>> So yeah, we've agreed that God exists as a concept. The question is is it reflective of something that actually exists in the real world?

[00:00:18]>> Yes. But from my understanding, yes.

[00:00:21]>> Um why should I believe that the God you're talking about exists?

[00:00:26]>> God is life.

[00:00:28]But I mean life exists. Life exists. But I don't think God is life. Then we have a word for life already.

[00:00:33]>> So can I ask you this then? If we give birth to the living, who gives life?

[00:00:39]>> Well, a living thing is alive. So nobody has to give life. But definitionally a living thing is is alive. And it's not there's not a requirement for life.

[00:00:48]>> Signs of life.

[00:00:50]>> Well, no. What a newborn baby doesn't just have signs of life. A newborn baby is alive by any meaningful definition of the word.

[00:00:56]>> Okay. So those who give birth to perfect babies but they do not breathe. Why has she not give him life?

[00:01:04]>> Because occasionally babies die. This is not complicated >> life.

[00:01:10]Nobody took it or gave it. This is basic biology.

[00:01:14]>> No one took it or gave it.

[00:01:15]>> Yeah.

[00:01:19]>> So you believe that uh it is us that gives the life?

[00:01:23]>> No, I think you're missing my point entirely. I don't think anyone gives life. Life is a word we use to describe things that behave in a certain way.

[00:01:33]Collections of non-living stuff that are put together in such a way that they exhibit properties like being able to take energy and resources from their surroundings and being able to reproduce and being able to metabolize. These are the things that we call when when a lump of stuff does those things, we call it alive. But it's not bestowed. No one's giving it. It's just a description of the way that something behaves.

[00:01:59]>> So, how does did we just appear from nowhere?

[00:02:02]>> Did who just appear from nowhere?

[00:02:04]>> You, me, everybody.

[00:02:06]>> I appeared because my parents had a special cuddle.

[00:02:09]>> Thank you. So, the original human beings, did it come or life in this planet? Did it come from nothing?

[00:02:17]>> Yeah. So if you're asking about the origins of life, there there are a number of competing hypotheses as to as to how the originators of replicating molecules could have arrived here, possibly on an asteroid from somewhere else.

[00:02:33]>> Um we don't know we don't know exactly.

[00:02:35]Yeah, because I don't know if you I don't know if you heard this, but the the basic building blocks of life were found recently on an asteroid out in space.

[00:02:42]>> So So we know we know that it's possible that that could that could happen. Um, okay. Who knows? But let's say for argument sake my answer is I don't know how life started. Is that would that be evidence for a god of any sort?

[00:02:54]>> No, that's that's a that's a wise that's a wise um statement. But it's standoffish.

[00:02:59]>> It's not standoffish. It's a question.

[00:03:01]>> He's not brave. He's not courageous.

[00:03:03]>> It's a I asked you a question. If I said to you that I don't know how life started, >> right?

[00:03:10]>> Would that would that lack of knowledge be evidence of a god?

[00:03:15]that lack of knowledge.

[00:03:17]>> Yeah.

[00:03:18]>> No.

[00:03:19]>> Okay.

[00:03:19]>> It means that you're just not brave enough to see.

[00:03:21]>> It's got nothing to do with bravery.

[00:03:22]It's got to do with whether you claim knowledge about something or not. So, as I said to you, we have a number of competing hypotheses as to how life might have originated on this planet.

[00:03:33]Right now, we don't completely know.

[00:03:35]There's some really promising research about this. And my guess is within 50 to 100 years, we will know. So, then that mystery will be solved. It won't be a mystery anymore. But in the meantime, given that we don't know that, why is there evidence for a god? Isn't it just evidence of not knowing something?

[00:03:52]>> Not knowing something, then you are doing the god of the gaps.

[00:03:57]>> No, you're doing the god. You're doing the god of the gaps.

[00:04:00]>> I'm saying to you, what gives life?

[00:04:02]>> Well, there's two tough questions, right? What gives life is a senseless question. There's how did there's how did life originate and there's how is it perpetuated? Which one of those are you asking? So, can something from >> which one of which one of those are you asking?

[00:04:16]>> Listen, no. Ask your question.

[00:04:19]>> Please answer that question. Please answer that question.

[00:04:21]>> Hang on. Hang on. Because we need some clarity here. We're all over the map at the moment and we're drowning in a pool of woo. So, right now I'm going to ask you a question and I really want an answer. When you say what gives life, it could mean anything. I want to know from you whether you mean what is the origin of life? I.e. Where did where did the early building the earliest building blocks of life arise? How did they arise? Or are you asking how is life perpetuated? How does it continue to be made?

[00:04:50]>> How is life existing?

[00:04:53]>> How is life existing?

[00:04:55]Well, it existing. It's existing because it exists. It's here right now. We have living organisms. This is basic stuff.

[00:05:02]We have living organisms that continue to reproduce living at the very beginning and us. So now we're not talking about existing then you're talking about the history. You're asking a historical question, aren't you?

[00:05:13]>> Okay.

[00:05:14]>> Okay. So the answer to your historical question as I've said already is we don't know exactly for sure ex we don't know for sure how life originated here but there are a number of competing hypotheses that are plausible and people are working on it and most people in the life sciences are of the opinion that unlike some other questions this one will probably be answered >> you agree with the big bang in a number of decades the big bang's got nothing to do with this most people in the life sciences think that unlike some other questions questions. This one will be answered within a few decades.

[00:05:48]>> But do you believe in the big bang?

[00:05:50]>> Are you asking to change subject now?

[00:05:52]>> No, I'm just asking do you believe in the big bang?

[00:05:54]>> If you want to change subject, we can to talk about the big bang. But it's a totally different subject.

[00:05:58]>> Something from nothing, >> right?

[00:06:00]>> From no life in life.

[00:06:03]>> So the big bang's got nothing to do with life. The big bang has got to do with cosmic expansion, hasn't it?

[00:06:13]Cosmic expansion continues.

[00:06:15]>> Cosmic expansion, right? Nothing to do with life. Nothing. Like, you might as well talk about, you know, roof tiling.

[00:06:22]It's got absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about. So, if you want to now stop talking about life and start talking about cosmic expansion, we can do that. Is that what you're asking to do, >> mate? You are you are moving from I'm asking you right if something right the big bang or you don't believe in the big bang if you don't it's okay is regard the very beginning of of um not life >> the big bang has got the big bang has got nothing to do with the very beginning of life the big bang is to do with the expansion of the observable universe from a very very hot dense state about 13.8 8 billion years ago expanding out very very very quickly.

[00:07:02]>> How are we here then?

[00:07:06]>> How are we here?

[00:07:07]>> Yeah.

[00:07:08]>> Do you mean when by we do you mean everything or do you mean human beings or do you mean just you and me?

[00:07:13]>> Human beings everything. But you can let's talk about us first.

[00:07:15]>> Well, they're different questions.

[00:07:17]>> So be precise. How are human beings here?

[00:07:19]>> How are human beings here?

[00:07:21]>> Human beings are here because we evolved from earlier forms of life.

[00:07:24]>> From where? How can we form life?

[00:07:28]What do you mean from where?

[00:07:29]>> You said earlier form of life.

[00:07:31]>> Earlier forms. So, so we have a thing called biological evolution.

[00:07:34]>> Earlier forms of life. Interesting.

[00:07:36]>> Earlier forms of life. So if you were life was here if you were to take a take a picture if you were to if you were to take a picture of your father >> and your father's father and then that person's father and that person's father and you were to keep on going and you go back and back and back and back and back and you go back hundreds and hundreds of thousands of generations of thou hundreds of thousands of generations there's two interesting things that would flow from this process. One is that every single every single uh being in that stage of lineage would be the same species as the one before it and the one after it.

[00:08:13]>> But eventually you would get to a point where they would the species were different.

[00:08:17]>> So that feels paradoxical, doesn't it?

[00:08:19]But it's because the change happens very very slowly over a very long period of time.

[00:08:24]>> Right? So eventually you would get back eventually you would get back to a common ancestor with other apes cuz we are apes. You'd get to a common ancestor with other apes and then from life then you would go back >> early stages of life.

[00:08:37]>> Yeah. Just listen listen more talk less and you could learn something. Then you could go go you keep on going back through history. You would reach common ancestry with other slightly more genetically distant forms of life, other mammals. And you keep on going back further. You would reach common ancestry with other more genetically distant forms of life, non-mammals. And you keep on going back and eventually you go back a few billion years and you get the earliest progenitors of life which were just self-replicating molecules. Just stuff that copied itself, made copies of itself and occasionally there were variations in the copying and those variations allowed evolution to take place.

[00:09:16]>> And what gave that life?

[00:09:18]>> Nothing gave it life. It's chemistry, dude. It's just chemistry. Nothing needed to give it life. Just reflect on this. Every atom in your body is non-living.

[00:09:29]>> You don't have life isn't like a magical thing that exists. I don't think you understand I don't think you understand what life means. Yes. All of all of life >> everything that's non-living everything that's alive comes from non-living.

[00:09:41]>> Yes. Correct. You are made of stardust.

[00:09:45]Every atom in your body every atom in your body is non-living.

[00:09:50]>> Exactly. So it came from non-living.

[00:09:52]Something came forth.

[00:09:54]I don't know about something came forth.

[00:09:56]We have we have well well understood mechanisms.

[00:09:59]>> So something came forth from non-living which is life.

[00:10:03]>> Something came forth from non-living if that's how you want to put it.

[00:10:07]>> Yes.

[00:10:07]>> Is that how you is that you agree to that?

[00:10:10]>> Yes. If you want to put it that way.

[00:10:12]Something came forth from non-living which is life.

[00:10:14]>> So non-living So something from non-living >> Yeah.

[00:10:18]>> gave forth life.

[00:10:20]>> Yes. I wouldn't I wouldn't personally put it that way because it sounds a little bit >> how would you put it >> a little I would just say I would put it the same way I did before which is that we have basic organic chemistry is capable of explaining how we could have replicators right replicators are just very very very simple things that make copies of themselves molecules that make copies of themselves >> okay >> clumps of stuff clumps of stuff >> very much John >> I hear what you're saying >> I hear what you're And now remember from non-living came forth life.

[00:10:54]>> Yeah. And and so you don't need a god to explain any of that, do you?

[00:10:57]>> Interesting. So the non-living part, how can something non-living give forth life?

[00:11:06]>> You you haven't heard a word I've said, have you? So it comes down to what you understand by non-living. Right? As I said to you, life is not like a magic spell that's been cast on something where it suddenly suddenly has some magical property. Life is a word we give to clumps of non-living stuff which when configured in a certain way behave in a certain way.

[00:11:31]Do you understand that?

[00:11:33]>> Yes.

[00:11:34]>> Do you understand the fact that >> our bodies is carbon 666? Our our bodies contain lots of different things other than carbon but but our bodies are made of natural stuff. natural non-living stuff which when combined it which when like just like stars and some of the atoms that are in you used to be in the sun used to be in stars right >> life is non-living stuff arranged in a particular way >> and so there's no there's no living stuffed >> there's no magical there's no magical >> I didn't say there was magic >> no but you seem to be fixated on this notion of living things and non-living things >> no because we have to differentiate we You've come to we come to a conclusion now that something non-living they had non-living stuff that came cuz obviously we're non-living and there's life. So there's something that happen in between that.

[00:12:29]>> Yes, that's right.

[00:12:31]>> That's right.

[00:12:31]>> It's called chemistry.

[00:12:35]>> No gods needed.

[00:12:37]>> So it sounds like you kind of agree with me.

[00:12:41]>> No, I just uh Yeah. Well, I agree that something non-living gives forth life.

[00:12:47]But the question is, how can life come from non-living?

[00:12:51]Well, I think we've answered it, haven't we?

[00:12:57]>> Okay. Cool.

[00:12:58]>> All right. Thanks for coming up. Kiss.