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You're a [ __ ] You're a [ __ ] [ __ ] and I'm glad you're getting kicked out of here.
I'd say to your face too, you stupid [ __ ] Get out of here.
That that that that that that. Get out of here. Andrew Wilson goes off on this insufferable feminist 304 getting kicked out after calling Brian Atlas a [ __ ] live in this heated debate. As Andrew Wilson calls out this brain dead feminist for her incoherent arguments triggering her as she tries to control the debate getting her kicked off before she attacks Brian Atlas and Andrew Wilson torches her for it. Let's get in.
What's the patriarchy?
The patriarchy is um well, by definition it's like a society that that kind of oppressed women and like promoted like like was in favorance of men.
A patriarchy is a society that like oppressed women and is in favorance of men. It has been like historically.
Yeah.
Okay.
>> Patriarchy was um historically societies where men were in charge and women were >> Which what percentage of men do you think were in charge?
That's a good question. I couldn't tell you. Okay. So, if I told you that less than 1% of men I'd believe it. ever in It's probably way No, it's way less than 1% of men. I'd believe it. So, okay. But I also think there's still not enough women in positions of power.
>> under this supposed patriarchy are women oppressed?
Um yeah, they were.
>> Are women oppressed in the United States?
>> Modern day, like now?
>> Yeah. Not like they used to be. I think we're we're exiting oppression, but I think like I said like it's just like I'm trying to think of how to phrase this badly. It's like I don't feel women in society this day and age are still oppressed, but I feel like it was so recent that it lingers and we as women still need to like work our way to the top even more. We are still not entirely equal in certain sects. We now have the ability to be, but it's going to take time to get there. For instance, we only represent like a small percentage, like 19% not even of all of like Congress and not and much less in the other sects of um leadership and >> ask you a question related to that. So, if male politicians pander to women voters anyways, what does it actually matter?
Like since we're voting for them, you're saying? So, male politicians typically aren't pandering to for for like >> Pandering by pandering, I'm sorry.
>> They pander to women. Like for for women appeal to women's >> Yeah. uh emotions, appeal to their various causes. It's very rare that you've ever heard a politician ever appeal for anything that relates to men's rights or anything like that. Oh.
So, what truthfully it wouldn't even matter. Well, I disagree because um there are politicians that are in favor of and and promote big business and a lot of those big businesses are run by men. So, it perpetuates the patriarchy.
>> What Okay, so you're That's a bunch of word salad that you just threw out there. So, okay, so are women oppressed under this patriarchy?
Um this day and age, I think our modern laws are not oppressive, but I think we're still recovering from a formerly oppressive patriarchy.
Okay, so how were women oppressed? Um we didn't have the right to vote. We didn't have the right We didn't Now women finally own more homes than men. We didn't have the right to a a mortgage till recently, till like 1973. Didn't women not want the right to vote?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
>> believe that's it. I think they fought for the right to vote.
Well, it's interesting. You were women were able to secure the right to vote without the corresponding responsibility of being subject to the forced military conscription.
I mean, I don't believe that. That was imposed by men.
Okay, you're It's almost It's always victim blaming, basically.
Men are victims now?
No, it's like this weird victim blaming thing of like, well, who Who is the victim?
>> Who's Who's fault is that? Well, it's men. So, in a in >> are victims. Well, in an arena >> I empathize.
>> I would actually Yes, I would argue that in a lot of ways men are victims.
For example, men are much more likely to be incarcerated, men are much more likely to be homeless, men are much more likely to commit suicide, men are much much less likely to go to university, men are much more likely to get a higher education.
Men have a higher rate of sociopathy and socio- sociopathy and psychopathy.
>> true. There's a recent There's a new study. in jail more There's a very recent Would you make that same argument when it comes to race?
>> [snorts] >> What?
Would you make that same Would you make that same argument when it comes to race?
You're saying men are more violent.
You're saying men are more violent, therefore >> literally diagnosed more often as psychopaths and sociopaths. That's something they're born with.
>> realize criminality is a very, very small percentage of men.
>> In jail, the population is estimated to be 10 to 20% psychopaths or sociopaths when they make up less than 1% of the world. And it's primarily men.
>> Okay, dark triad, mental illness absolutely contributes to criminality.
Okay. So, >> [sighs] >> I don't even know like you're so like the way you argue is so [ __ ] weird and annoying. It's like hard to engage with you. Okay. So, I listed a couple ways in which men are disadvantaged.
>> Okay.
>> [snorts] >> I can give you some more.
So, also men upon birth, a lot of them in this country, most of them in this country are they have no bodily autonomy. So, they're for they're circumcised.
That's >> And I think that that should be something that, you know, you should be able to choose.
>> able to consent to, perhaps when you're 18.
So, there's a few and then of course there's the forced military conscription. So, I mean Yes, if you actually like were to add up the ways in which men are disadvantaged and compare them to women, I'm actually prepared to make an argument that men are more disadvantaged in a myriad of ways than women are. I'm sorry you feel that way. It's not It's not how I feel.
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You said You said in a kind of flippant, dismissive way you said that you're sorry I feel that way. Well, I don't just feel that way. I I >> you said I don't agree that you are more oppressed, but if you feel you are, then I authentically empathize with you for what you feel is Okay, so I just listed out a bunch of ways that it's not just how I feel men are experiencing life.
It's actually statistically proven.
There's studies. There's data that you can look at.
>> like the jail study. I didn't >> rebut Yeah, to the jail statement, but there were further on that list. So, Let me ask you Okay, let me ask you a question. Do you Do you feel that African-Americans are um are victims of a sort of systemically racist uh, when it comes to incarceration.
>> Yes.
Okay, so if we look at statistics, then we can actually make far more How about actually before Let me walk it back a bit.
Do you think that the police misconduct, police brutality, police killings of African-Americans is evidence of racism and or systemic racism or racism in this country? It has been.
Okay. So, what if I told you if we were to, for example, if we've made comparisons of police killings between white men and black men per capita. What if I told you that something that blows that statistic way out of the water is the discrepancy in police brutality and police killings between men and women?
So, women are less likely in general to get >> So, there's a bigger There's an even bigger gap. So, if we're if we're comparing white to black, there's an even bigger gap between men and women.
So, would that then be evidence of systemic sexism?
Um, if the data represents it, then yeah. I don't know the exact statistics.
I've just provided it for you.
>> give me exact numbers and figures. No, I don't know. Okay, well, here's an example. There are more white men who are killed by police than there are women who are killed by police of all races combined.
But there's more white men in America [clears throat] than other races of No, I said all all races of women combined. That includes white women, includes black women, Latina women, other. I I first is women, got it.
Then that stems back to the point I was stay stating before about how men have a higher rate of sociopathy >> Okay, so take that to its logical conclusion. Are you prepared to make that same argument for against black men?
That they have a higher rate of sociopathy and psychopathy than women?
No, than white men. You need to be >> No, I don't think that.
>> Ah, interesting. Okay, so you So, you're basically >> like targeted by the police historically. It's proven. Like it's documented. It's proven. But, I mean, we can agree to disagree on that if that's how you feel. Like I I've seen like the videos. I know of the data. I know Like I don't know the exact figures. So, you could educate me on those, argue with me on them, whatever floats your boat. But, I know that like yeah, there is systemic oppression that's affected African-American people. Yeah. By police. Like there's been racist police brutality.
There Sure there has been. But, do you think just because for example, let's say a black man is killed by police, does it necessarily mean he was killed because he was black?
Um No, it doesn't mean that. It doesn't guarantee that.
>> Okay. But, it's happened. Sure. Yeah.
>> Sure.
>> [snorts] >> Okay.
Cool.
Oh my god, that's like ridiculous. Um Should I just restate my position and I feel like you've failed to actually make a compelling argument?
I feel like the conversation just ended out of nowhere. Like What What What point are you trying to like make? Well, again, when I I listed and enumerated a couple ways in which men are disadvantaged.
>> clearly have to agree to disagree on the jail statistics. But, furthermore >> Okay, so fine. Let me just even though I'm prepared even the even if I'm prepared to argue that, let me just come totally concede the jail one.
>> Okay, yeah. Next problem.
>> Okay, so suicidality. Men are much more likely to commit suicide in this country. Also, men are much more likely to be homeless. Let's tackle those two.
I agree and I empathize highly with that. I do.
>> Yeah, I do.
>> But you just said that >> men need better mental health resources.
>> But your position was your position was that men are not disadvantaged >> said they're not disadvantaged.
>> what you said.
>> Women are more Your position was that men are not disadvantaged >> said they're not disadvantaged. That's literally what you said.
>> Women are more disadvantaged. Okay, so Women are not privileged in contrast to >> tell me something Tell Tell me a way in which women are disadvantaged.
We're compared to men.
We're like 80 Not 80 times. Um I want to get these statistics 100% right and I don't want to sound vulgar. We are I guess five times more likely to get SA'd.
I mean, it depends on your definition of that and then if you if you incorporate, for example, men who are SA'd in prison facilities, then actually my understanding is that >> They They're incorporated in that statistic and no, it's not equalized.
I'm I would have to review the data.
>> Women are like five at least five times more likely to be trafficked, too. We are literally still at on on a global scale still victimized by the patriarchy.
Let me know down below if you agree that this woman is absolutely about brain dead. And I'm sorry, I I can't take anyone seriously when they want to describe a group of people and they want to use the singular word instead of the plural. It's women, not woman. It's women. You're talking about women, the plural form. So this woman who is so sure She's so sure that she knows her stats or at least on this one, uh she doesn't know how to use English. All All Well, I'm not really going to follow statistical information from anyone who can barely even talk. And also, I think she's got like some face tats on her.
And I mean, right here she's complaining about the patriarchy. Never mind the fact that, you know, that she's only talking about the minute the minute the percentile of people who are criminals who are trafficking women. Whereas everyone else who's a part of the patriarchy, the majority of guys are good men. Like this is the inversion that feminism has brainwashed these chicks into is that they believe, "Oh, since there are some men who traffic and there are some men who do this, I'm going to extrapolate them that onto everyone else." It's backwards logic.
And they always complain if you do it in the reverse. "Oh, well, one woman likes to get ran through by 50 guys, so all women are like this." And they would absolutely go up in arms. Like they don't like their own logic used against them. I do admit Brian Atlas could do a better job with his arguments. I think he needs to be a little more structured in what he's saying. However, to his own point, when he's trying to extrapolate her own logic against her, she's not able to follow it. And she doesn't want to because the last thing they ever want to to do is be held accountable to the things that they say and the stupidity that comes out of their mouth. A better question that Brian Atlas probably should have mentioned is what are rights that men have that women don't. And guess what?
They can't answer that. Why? Because it doesn't exist. Women have all the same rights absent duties and responsibilities. However, men have more duties and less rights than women do.
And yet she's complaining, "Oh, we're almost there. The the oppression's almost over. You know, we we just need a little bit more. We just need a little bit more and a little bit more."
Feminism has nothing to do with equality. It's just the raw emotional feeling of greed for power. That's it.
Anymore, at least I I But hit that like button and notification bell and let's get back in.
That hence like S trafficking rings Okay.
>> of that nature. [clears throat] S work like sex work, we could say that, yeah. Sex work. Sex work I'm thoroughly convinced was established by men because men are policing it to this day.
So women have no agency?
They do, thank God. I think that's why women nowadays feel empowered by OnlyFans as they've stated because it's them being able to like control themselves and navigate their own bodies and not be >> The patriarchy institutes sex work and the women who have >> has in the sex work. This is a genius argument.
Um I think you can't hate sex workers when men are constantly abusing sex workers.
Why wait let's assume for a second that um I don't know, the essay rates were 1,000 times between the sexes. How would that prove that men are privileged in society over women?
>> times like Well yeah, with that women are 1,000 times more likely to be than men, yeah.
>> How does that prove that How would that prove that men are privileged in society over women? It would just show that women are disadvantaged >> Yeah, that's uh biologically in a sense and one figure or another but it would show that men We don't have finish my point before you respond. You're not even listening. You just you can't wait to talk so you don't listen. Relax.
>> contradicts what was just said.
My point doesn't contradict it. That's why you need to listen.
Even if it were true even if it were true that it was one women were 1,000 times more likely to be essayed than men, how would that prove that men in society were privileged over women?
I did not say men are privileged over women. I said women are not privileged over men, which is what he stated in the first place and has stated on several occasions.
>> you were stating you were giving a statement for the draft that it's a privilege that women are not drafted.
That is the case, correct?
No, that's not the only thing he said.
He said in general he feels >> case of the draft women are privileged [clears throat] over men. Is that what you said? One thing at a time.
Can we just start with the draft? Are women privileged by not having to do the draft? Um I don't believe so. Okay, then what would you call it that only one sex has to do an activity for conscription where they go put their life on the line and and may potentially lose it versus the other sex not having to do that. What would you call that besides a privilege?
>> it a choice tragically made by that sex as proven. Men don't choose.
>> did not collectively make that choice.
>> Straw man fallacy donated $100.
She stands her argument on men being more likely to be sociopaths, then follows up with I'm sorry you feel that way. Quintessential gaslighting from someone with zero self-awareness.
Matriarchy?
You said it's a choice. It's not a choice to be drafted. That's No, I didn't say it's a choice. You literally the word choice >> it's men men as a whole like the men who represented men chose that.
Yeah, okay. Okay.
>> that was all men at the time.
Okay, so yes. Does anybody who's alive right this second any man who's alive right this second have a choice in whether or not they're drafted?
Um Yeah, the ones in congress.
The men who are conscripted, do they have a choice in being conscripted or not? You're not There's no draft right now. Who knows?
>> That's not my question. If there was a draft right now, would men If there was a draft right now, would the men who got drafted have a choice in being drafted or not?
We just danced way back from where we were at in this conversation. Yeah, can you answer my question now?
>> did. Yeah, can you answer it again?
>> Multiple times. We just danced all the way back to the draft from way into past past police thing. We were on a whole new layer, and now we're all the way back to me reiterating the same [ __ ] We just danced all the way back to the draft from way into past police thing.
>> So, you just want me to repeat it?
>> myself. No, I We're not dancing back to the same [ __ ] we just talked about. You can literally talk to yourself about [ __ ] if you still don't agree with me on it.
>> trying to evade. Yeah, you're being very You're being You're doing everything possible >> Let's push forward to where we were at.
>> cuz we already discussed this.
>> You're not going to dictate the terms and the flow of the conversation.
>> talk to himself. Like I already answered this.
>> leave.
You can leave. Go ahead.
You're a [ __ ] You're a [ __ ] [ __ ] and I'm glad you're getting kicked out of here.
>> wouldn't You wouldn't say [ __ ] like this to me if I was with my man.
>> I'd say it to your face, too, you stupid [ __ ] Get out of here.
>> to talk crazy to a woman, but you don't got no guts to talk like this to a woman.
>> that that that. Get out of here.
>> You are a bunch of [ __ ] with little dicks.
You didn't play the sound. Oh, I didn't?
Oh, okay. Hold on.
Yeah, women like this are the absolute gutter trash of the barrel. Like she wants to talk about privilege and all that, but she doesn't think it's a privilege to not be forced to go somewhere that risks your life and that you could die. No, she doesn't think that's a privilege at all. See, they never want to, you know, admit their own their own privileges, their own rights, their own extra. They never It's It's my money like your money is our money and my money is my money. It's the same logic. They don't want to share. They don't care about equality. They don't care about any of that crap. They just want more and they're never going to hold themselves accountable. I mean, she wants to complain about Ander Wilson going back to a simple question that what she can't answer. She literally can't answer. And to like the entire Can you even think of one single time that she used women correctly? Every single time this ghetto trash chick just wants to talk woman woman and doesn't know English. But, she's so sure that she's right. No. No, chicks like this Hey, whatever man has her, you can keep her.
Any other guy who's worth his weight in any form of respect is never going to waste their time dealing with crap like this. But, thanks for watching. Let me know down in the comments what you thought about what Ander Wilson had to say completely ending this insufferable feminist 304 in this debate. Thanks again. Like and subscribe and I will see you on the next one.
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