Hot IPOs, characterized by massive oversubscription and initial price spikes, often experience significant post-IPO corrections (typically 80% decline over 3-6 months) as early investors seek exit liquidity; investors should carefully evaluate whether companies can achieve the dramatic revenue growth and margin expansion necessary to justify their valuations, particularly in competitive markets with established players possessing software moats.
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Is CBRS a Trap? Why I Won't Touch This Hot IPOAdded:
Squidgy iguana, good day James.
Wondering if you have any thoughts on Cerebras Systems, CBRS. Seeing a lot of talk about them lately. Thanks for all you do. Thanks, I had the same question, too. CRW7.
So, let's look at Cerebras, the financials.
By the way, I couldn't pull up all the detailed financials in GuruFocus for some reason. Wasn't there, or some weird financials in space. And don't get confused between CRBS and CBRS.
It's very easy to trip up on those two tickers.
But, their revenue is growing, but they're losing money. And I always thought that IPOs need to come out of the gate profitable, but that's not the case.
Their price-to-sales ratio is 103. Very high.
Now, if you're a fan of Cathie Wood, she bought it on Tuesday last week, uh, 25,000 shares, and uh, five, uh, 10,000. So, in combination, over 35,000 shares of Cerebras. And it's not a cheap stock, by the way. Let's have a look at some other stuff.
Yes. Let's talk about why it is good, and why I won't touch it.
The two big questions in life.
Uh, first of all, they do have some impressive things going for them.
They have built an impressive wafer-scale technology. It's a big, like it's the size big, big ring. I don't know about the very huge plate. Giant chip with hundreds of thousands of cores. And it's, uh, I see it as an Nvidia inference alternative. Remember, in the future, 99% of all compute will be inference.
It is answering stuff, not learning.
They've done big deals with OpenAI, Amazon Web Services. Huge FOMO. And the IPO had 20X oversubscribed. Huge demand.
So, they could juice it hot, because it's a classic hot IPO pattern.
A lot of FOMO there. So, that's the good news.
The bad news, why I don't touch it?
Classic classic hot pattern, 80% fall after the IPO. Do not be exit liquidity.
Now, very important here, I don't know if SpaceX will follow the same pattern. There's a 20% chance it doesn't. We have to watch this very carefully. So, bear that in mind as well. But, this Cerebras is classic hot pattern.
Um it history shows the hype tech IPOs hugely oversubscribed. You know, they pop 50% on the first day or more.
And then they give back gains in the following months.
The post IPO dip sometimes takes 3 months, sometimes takes 6 months.
Normally, 90 days.
And the valuation is 52 billion. For that to make sense, they have to grow revenue dramatically for years and years and expand their margins significantly and win a huge amount of money mar market share, market share from Nvidia, which has massive software moat. They don't have that type of moat at all.
And harder reality is very high cost of goods sold, very complex manufacturing process, hugely long sales cycles, and heavy ongoing R&D to stay competitive. This is not a high [clears throat] margin business by any stretch of the imagination. Shout out to software.
So, be careful of this one.
Let's So, this is why I'm not going to touch it.
If they were making [clears throat] tons of profit and they had infinite demand going out the down the street for next 5 years, and they were making 82% margin on everything they sold, yeah, but they're not.
Now, Cerebras post IPO dip, here we go.
Classic I'll turn off my camera so you guys can see this beautiful chart. I'm we're out of the box a couple of days. It's already down 40%.
Uh where that little buy signal is, by the way, I think that's where Cathie Wood bought.
But then it fell, and then that little spike sell signal, and it tanked again. So, who knows where this will go?
Currently, the price is circa 235 237.
It could go back to nearly 400 where it came from, >> [sighs and gasps] >> but there's a lot of people looking to get out of the door. Wait for them to leave the building and then jump in if you want. But we have to keep a very close eye on financials. And the good news is, we'll have a good earnings report before all the selling will be done, as well. Hope that helps regarding Cerberus. And I like the name.
It's very cerebral, which I like, brainy.
But it's difficult, very difficult space to be in.
>> [bell]
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