Another Reparations Heist? Africans vs. UK Caribbeans | Diaspora Theory

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[00:00:00]They have this thing going on where they're getting trying to get reparations. Well, the reparations already passed. The Africans and other people are laying claim to it and getting it, I guess. And so they're trying to make it exclusively for, you know, just descendants of the Wind Rush generation. Just wondering what you thought about it. I know this is a diaspora channel, so >> they spent the last decade trying to say they have culture in black American zone. I have no sympathy. That's my That's what I'm getting at. I hope you figure a way out, but I don't have sympathy for it. I've been telling my people like it's not it's not about morality, you know? It's not about being anti-African.

[00:00:36]It's about you prioritizing yourself.

[00:00:40]Nobody cared up all up until two seconds ago. Now, now you crying for what? For what? You was locking arms with them, skipping and holding hands into the sunset for the past 10 years talking about some we're the one. We're the only black people on planet Earth that got culture. We're the only we do this, we do that, and now >> I remember those days.

[00:00:59]>> Now you're upset at what?

[00:01:00]>> And during the few moments that we have left, >> we want to have just an offthe cuff chat between you and me.

[00:01:09]>> Hi. Hello. Welcome to the panel. Daniel, wait, were you up here before?

[00:01:14]>> Yeah, I was up here before.

[00:01:15]>> I think you changed your picture. How you doing? What's your ethnicity and what country you live in?

[00:01:20]>> I am a foundational black American. I live in America. Uh, land of the free home with a No, I live in America. Uh, I live in Michigan. How you doing?

[00:01:29]>> Good. How you doing? How you doing?

[00:01:31]Welcome.

[00:01:32]>> Oh, you can see negator. Negatory.

[00:01:37]>> No, I heard a little note right there.

[00:01:38]You hit on the sh How you doing though?

[00:01:41]I'm sorry.

[00:01:42]>> No, I'm good. What would you like to share with the class today?

[00:01:47]>> Um, so I know you said last time you like Caribbean, right?

[00:01:52]>> West Indian. I I I refuse the word Caribbean, but >> Okay.

[00:01:56]>> It's not that it upsets me, but I just >> I understand. I understand. I understand. So, I was speaking to um a young lady from the UK. She is from the Wind Rush generation.

[00:02:08]>> And so, they descend from Jamaica.

[00:02:10]They're Jamaican, but the Wind Rush is like the the whole West Indies, um so to speak. And they have this thing going on where they're getting trying to get reparations. Well, the reparations already passed, but the Africans and other people are laying claim to it and getting it, I guess. And so they're trying to make it exclusively for, you know, just descendants of the Wind Rush generation.

[00:02:37]I was just wondering if you heard about that.

[00:02:40]>> I heard that in 201 15.

[00:02:45]>> Yeah.

[00:02:46]18 Jamaicans had to or rather they just finished paying their colonizers for having enslaved them. It was kind of something similar to what happened to Haiti where they had to end up paying France which is completely absurd, right? Um, but as far as getting as far as the Wind Rush generation getting reparations from Britain. No, I haven't heard anything from that. Um, >> well, so it's a different thing now. So, what you're talking about was so when Jamaica got freed, um, the government took out a loan to pay the slave owners and they finished paying it off. But the ringware situation, it stems from I think 2015 something under Theresa May. They started uh deporting a lot of them and they deported a lot of the people cuz they came over in the 40s. So after the second armed global conflict wo >> um they came over to help rebuild Jamaica. I mean to rebuild Britain because a lot of the British soldiers were not >> run alive and um you know under heavy firing whatever. Long story short, they came over and it was considered Commonwealth at the time. So when they all came over, they didn't need a passport, they didn't need anything.

[00:04:08]They just kind of came cuz they were considered, you know, like United States and Puerto Rico is. So when those people couldn't prove their citizenship, air quotes, they were sent back as well. And they they paid restitution to it, but they put it to under the minority category in the UK. and a lot of the Africans felt like they should get claimed to it. And apparently that's a big thing going on right now. So just wondering what you thought about it. I know this is a diaspora channel, so >> Oh snap. You see, they know no bounds.

[00:04:42]They know no bounds. Um as far as far as my people are concerned, right? Let let me break this down into regional demographics. I've always said this is regardless of me, you know, this being my people.

[00:04:58]One, the people, Caribbean people, West Indian people who migrate to the West Indies, they come uh sorry, West Indians who migrate to the UK. Okay, they come out strange.

[00:05:11]They come out strange to me on average.

[00:05:14]Okay, they come out strange up here.

[00:05:16]They come out strange. And so why do I say that? They spent the past decade or so rubbing shoulders with Africans.

[00:05:26]uh triangulating, trying to buddy themselves up together and then pointing and laughing at black Americans, right?

[00:05:34]Where it's just like, okay, that's unprovoked and unwarranted. Like, all right, they spent the last decade trying to say they have culture and no and black Americans don't. They spent the last decade pairing with Africans over there. Okay? Okay? Because it's not the same as in America where um the West Indians have had longer and closer proximity to another black demographic, i.e. black Americans, right? We've had longer connection and communication and similar enough history, right? We've had a we have some history together versus West Indians who go over to the UK, their first interaction and impression in relation with Africans is right there and then like very quite recent, right?

[00:06:23]Quite quite recent. Quite recent. And so anyway, they spent the last decade or so prancing around and hopping around together to the point where now Africans, Nigerians in particular, but really they they kind of they move as a conglomerate. Africans have snuffed out West Indian culture and they're calling it black British culture when in reality when you look at what it is they're calling that 99.9% of it is West Indian culture and when you look when you look even inside of that the majority of that is Jamaican culture not even just West Indian in in general right so they spent the last 10 the last 10 years or maybe even 20 years you know locking arms skipping and holding hands and pointing and laughing laughing at everybody. I have no sympathy. That's my That's what I'm getting at. I have no sympathy.

[00:07:14]>> I have sympathy.

[00:07:16]>> I have no sympathy. I hope you figure a way out, but I don't have sympathy for it.

[00:07:22]>> And I've been I've been telling my people like it's not it's not about morality, you know? It's not about being anti-African.

[00:07:29]It's about you prioritizing yourself.

[00:07:33]And nobody nobody cared up all up until two seconds ago. Nobody. Now, now you crying for what? For what? You was You was locking arms with them, skipping and holding hands into the sunset for the past 10 years, talking about some we're the one we're the only black people on planet Earth that got culture. We're the only we do this, we do that. And now, >> I remember those days.

[00:07:55]>> Now you're upset at what? Mind you also, Mind you, also they would also um they would also say things like, "Oh, um, black Americans don't know where they come from. We're all African. We understand. We have Africanized ancestry. They spent the past 10 years doing that.

[00:08:15]Like, and now you're in now you're in deep hot water. What do you what do you expect? What do you expect? But no, when people like me was trying to say this has you need to have cultural boundaries, right? It's not about orchestrating harm against another group. No one has ever said that. It's about having cultural boundaries. But people want to interpret that by default as a slight to someone else. It's like, "No, you you're not. You're not getting it. You're not getting it. You're not getting it." Then now, now you learn.

[00:08:44]You're learning the hard way. You learning the hard way. You learning the real hard way. Okay. These people, as in Africans, they know no bounds. If you let them, they will. What do they always say? It's always some African takeover at H.B...................C.. It's African takeover at Junth. It wherever they go. It's not. It's African takeover day. African takeover week. Wherever they go, wherever they go, Burnaba Boy, a whole Nigerian is on a cover wearing Timberlands.

[00:09:15]When in 98°ree weather, where do you ever wear Tims?

[00:09:21]And I'm just >> I just I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. Good luck. Best of luck. Best of luck. Figure it out.

[00:09:33]Yeah. So, um yeah, if you free sometime, I would like to have a conversation on my stream if possible. I do have qu couple questions though. But no, I just think it's interesting because um when I look into the continent of Africa because I've been studying this Bikino fossil situation very closely. Yeah.

[00:09:49]Bikino fossil uh and South Africa in particular just because they're kicking out the Nigerians from both of those countries. And I find it strange that none of the Panaffricans are calling them colonizers or nothing like that. And also, no one's holding Ghana feet to the fire about them accepting this EU deal. So, I don't know. I'm just looking, you know, I'm just I just want some consistency with this aggression, that's all. Because they was telling working for ICE, a government job that pays $100,000 or $50,000 signup bonus was dumb. And I'm just trying to figure out, hm, are they going to say the same thing to this the the Ghanaians who are going to set this EU training to to beat Africa's police force on African immigration for the U EU? But that's another conversation for different day. But but thank you so much. I won't take too much more of your time.

[00:10:38]>> Well, you know, I think the ideal was to be able to collaborate with each other, to be able to think that there were similar values, there were similar ethics, but that just isn't the case.

[00:10:53]And to me, that's okay. What's not okay is presenting yourself as a friend, saying you're a friend, and all your actions equal foe. That's the part I got a problem with. If you want if you want to be a foe, be a foe. That's cool. In fact, I like when I can see my enemies.

[00:11:09]I don't like when my enemies try to act like they my friends. How is it everything that come out of your mouth is inconsistent with your actions.

[00:11:16]That's my problem with Africans. So, as far as where to place them, I don't I don't take them serious. You can't wager morality where morality doesn't exist.

[00:11:26]An African cannot wager morality against me. So, it has nothing to be do with being anti-African. In fact, the implying that implies that I have no personhood to decide for myself, right?

[00:11:38]Implies that I have no personhood to or peoplehood to decide for myself who I get to be in union with, who I get to be in collaboration with, who I get to whatever with. And it also says that I don't have personhood to be able to vet that person or people. That's what that's what that implies. Um but in any case, let me introduce