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It's time for midnight to the morning.
>> Oh, look who's dressed up.
Dabber dan down there. No, we uh we have a special guest from Appalling News here, which is >> Yes, >> I was guess. I was doing Appalling News.
Well, that's pretty uh >> No, no, because one has to one has to dress respectable.
>> That's true.
>> What I love is he's wearing his mother's carpet from 1972.
>> A couch >> he had or it was a couch. Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
>> Couch gave up his life for that jacket.
>> Yeah, >> I might uh I think I'm going to de uh deappalling news myself.
>> As we go along here, you're going to start undressing.
>> Yeah.
>> Soon.
>> Yeah. going to slumber at us for ostalk.
So, >> send in the money, guys. The more the money, the more clothes come off, I guess. Shake it like you.
>> Yeah. Really? You want to start Wednesday like this? And I'm sorry I I was I didn't get to the backroom chatter. I was in the middle of writing my book and I got lost. So >> today's backroom chatter is this.
>> What's this? This was >> This was the back room chatter.
>> What's going on today? Absolutely [ __ ] nothing.
>> Oh man, I wanted to I wanted to go see uh Grou. Mandalorian Grou, right? But then they only had late shows and I really you know what? I'm not going to go see Mandalorian and Grou at 10 10:20.
Yeah, because that means you're not getting out of there till at least 3 in the morning.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I I And I No, I mean I'm still on Japan time.
But uh yeah, anyways. Yeah, thanks for having me. Um so I feel you have much to talk about.
>> You are the star. I mean >> I I feel your pain because like for some reason I I I imagined that I was going to see Masters of the Universe today.
Yes. I don't know why. Uh because like I I imply that on Monday. It was just a brain fart in my end. Uh because it's actually next Wednesday.
>> But um but uh yeah. So so I messed up there. But of course there's worse ways to mess up. Like I remember when when uh the the Matrix sequel first came out. Of course this is long time ago now, >> but this was a big big big thing back in 2003 three when it happened. And it was like a a midnight screening. It was like 1 minute past midnight is when the screening was. And the guy, he had like tickets for it, one of my friends. And he was like bragging like for two weeks in advance that he was going to the early midnight premiere. It wasn't just a premiere, it was a pre-remiere. So he would be seeing it 3 days before anyone else. And then I mean anyone else like this is like how it was in Norway sometimes where we get the movies before they even come in the US. This was was one of those things. It was coming out 3 days before even the US. And he had tickets for this screening at Wednesday, one minute past midnight.
>> That's Thursday.
>> Exactly.
So we uh so we uh so we uh asked him then in the in the morning on the Wednesday, how was the movie last night?
It's like no no it's tonight like uh no it was 1 minute past midnight. It's already been I'm just like seeing his face as he realized >> and they got loads of complaints because after that they started having the movies at like 1 minute to midnight because then you have to leave the correct day as opposed to leaving the day before. Yeah.
>> No, no, that's that's that's a good point. I mean, I can't remember what Ramona and I were away on some vacation and we got the wrong 8:00.
So, we arrived at 8:00.
>> Military time solved that.
>> That was That was uh 8:00 in the morning.
>> Yeah.
>> The plane already long gone.
>> Oh [ __ ] >> Yeah. Have you done that, Tom?
>> No. No, I'm the [ __ ] that's always 5 minutes too late.
>> Oh, >> like I'm rushing, rushing, rushing, and then it's like go to the doors and >> Oh, no. You're like looking at your watch, it's like it's like 58 pass. Come on. You know, like that's my life. was lucky with the we were lucky with the plane thing because it was a no transfer ticket, but the woman said, "Oh, this flight that uh is at 8:00 uh actually is like half empty. If you maybe pay a $50 penalty, I'll get you on it."
>> I did not get that lucky, but actually have a similar story. I was when I was on my way back from Vegas a couple years back, I they they dropped me off at the wrong terminal and I didn't know this until it was too late. Okay. So, I had to walk all the way across the uh airport. By the time I got there, they said that my that plane had been boarded already and taking off.
>> Well, then I So, I went through a bunch of trouble to get on another flight, go sit down with my ticket to to wait for my flight, which is like 2 and 1/2 hours, and they're just finally boarding the flight I was supposed to be on. So, I went up to the lady to tell her that.
But I'm like, I was supposed to be on that plane. And they made me change because they said they had already taken off, but according to you, you're just finally boarding. And I'm like, can I get on this pl back on my plane? I'm supposed to be on in the first place.
And they wouldn't let me. It was a bunch of horseshit if you ask me. It was just the most ridiculous thing I ever had to deal with in my life.
>> They didn't want you on that.
>> No, they did not. You know what? And I hate to say it. I almost wish the damn thing went down just to be like, man, I'm glad I was >> I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Of course, I would never wish such a thing, but >> no, it was just a pain in the ass. And it was like that was all that rushing through this, >> wow, >> you know, sweat pouring and I'm like, I'm on the wrong plane. I'm like, I got to get to this plane. And they're like, lady's like, it's already been boarded, sir. It's like, you lying [ __ ] >> That's true. That's terrible.
>> So, anyway, but that's my horror story of going to the the flying.
>> Yeah. Well, my case is like I have like a connecting flight from uh Skipole in Amsterdam. It's a airport I freaking hate because whenever I have a connecting flight and I have like 20 minutes between them because one of them was delayed and of course it's a complete opposite ends of the uh of the uh of the terminal building which means you basically have to run a marathon to get from one end to the other. I was like yeah >> I I like that airport. I like Amsterdam.
>> I like Amsterdam. I just don't like the airport.
>> No, no, I don't mind the airport. I mean, I waited six hours to get a >> Oh, it's fine if you have to wait six hours. I do not recommend it if you have 20 minutes to get from one side of to the other.
>> But what what airport isn't like that?
Try Heathrow.
>> Yeah. I don't >> You have to get on You have to get on a shuttle to to get to the next Spider Terminal.
>> Yes. Same thing with with Stanstead, not Gatwick though. But uh yeah, >> that's how boring things are right now.
We're talking about flying.
>> Uh speaking of flying, uh flying blind rocket cycle says, "God, >> how you doing?"
>> And then he says, >> "It's called filling time, Tom."
>> Yeah, it is. I know. And then Dark King 616 brought this up. Yeah, I saw this yesterday uh for Australian $2 says, "Late, rest in peace, Dick Perry of Pink Floyd, past 22nd of May." Yeah, I saw that. That's too bad. Uh, and then Miller says, "Ex-M season 7 looks fun."
Is that what we're calling it?
>> X-Men season 7.
>> Yeah, this is the animated thing that uh >> what's his name got kicked off of?
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Did they just bypass a bunch of seasons?
Was the previous one?
>> No, they I guess Miller's just counting the first season.
>> Of course. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Well, yeah. I guess. I mean, it's too bad it's not cannon with anything else other than the previous animated series.
But for fans of that one, fantastic. I hope it works out great. Yeah. I hope they are able to fix things on the big screen. But uh hey, yeah, we everything for Little Victories. Also, Spider Noir is now out in its entirety. I haven't had the chance to see it yet.
>> Oh, I was going to watch try to get one in today.
>> From everything I've been able to tell, it's complete and total win. uh as uh Gary J. Tonicliffe told us uh it would be months in advance and which more and more people are confirming now that they get to see it. I have to say I'm a little bit disappointed that uh Amazon dropped the whole thing in just one go instead of spreading it out so we had the chance to actually get caught up episode by episode. I mean, who the hell has time for binging like seven, eight episodes? Well, I'm sure plenty of people have time for that, but we we don't.
>> And they're hurting themselves. And we've all brought every single one of us as YouTubers has brought this up is like for you to do that you're basically giving us a week to talk about something and at that point nobody has had enough time as far as the general audience to sit there and watch all these shows usually. So then you're sitting there stuck talking about them in a way that's you know like what we do right after a movie comes out you know no spoilers and be really cryptic about it. So then a week or two passes when you figure okay everybody's seen it nobody cares anymore. It's this is the problem with no having no like >> societal u water cooler things going on.
Yeah.
>> Yeah. You know, going on anymore. It's like cuz Yeah. Somebody could talk about, oh, did you see this show? I'm like, no, I've never even [ __ ] heard of it, >> right? And how many times is there a new sequel to some movie on Netflix that I've never even heard of the original, you know? It's just it's a constant thing where it's just like, okay, I'm not keeping up with any of this. I I would say you're you're absolutely right. Um The Night of the Seven Kingdoms actually benefited a lot by having it spread over one week at a time just like a regular network show. U I and I if I recall you you couldn't even see it until it hit a specific time, which is a somewhat a popular thing to do. Disney does that although it hasn't helped their shows but >> no but of course the quality of the show has to be there up front >> and I and I would say that uh the hedge knight really benefited from first of all you had a bunch of people with kind of a bad taste on in the Game of Thrones brand. You had some people iffy about that uh second series which I never saw any of them uh with the Dragon House of Dragon or whatever it was called.
>> House of Dragon. Yeah.
>> And and then uh people were, you know, kind of iffy, but then someone saw the first episode and said, "Hey, this is this is pretty good." And then they saw the second episode and went, "I'm really loving this." Oh my god, the Adventures of Egg and uh uh >> Dunk and Egg Duncan Egg. I mean, they just fell in love with them. I don't think that would have happened if it was just all uh if the entire series was dumped out all in at one time.
>> Yeah. No, I I agree completely with that assessment.
So yeah, I think it's strange because I mean even Amazon it it's been didn't it roll out uh you know it's it's uh power the the rings of power thing week at a time.
>> Yeah, I know.
>> Yeah, that's why I was surprised that they just dropped everything here. Yeah, it's generally it's almost it's only a select few shows and Amazon like normally isn't the one that does that so often. I don't think at least not from my memory do I remember them dropping an entire show all at once to be a Sony thing. I'm not saying it is. I'm just like uh wondering what the hell is different this time. And we know it's a Sony co-production. Sony usually works with Netflix. Netflix does this whole drop everything in one go model. I don't know. Maybe maybe they got used to it and like the idea of it.
>> They sly has been dividing it in half.
>> There could be something to that. Andre say like co take Cobra Kai for a great example. We just finally got the complete Blu-ray box set here like a couple months ago, right? And the show's been done for what just over a year just about. And that's another show that was always dropped at once all at once.
and they did DVDs before that, but something was keeping them from doing Blu-rays in the US because there was a couple Blu-rays outside the US, just not in the US. And then all of a sudden, finally, we get it. I wonder if it doesn't have something to do contractually, like you just said, being that Sony wanted them to dump all those shows so that by the time they get to a point, it's like that that's our date that we can actually release them. Maybe that has something to do with it because otherwise, I have no idea why you would do this. It feels like the the days of binging are over and you're just doing yourself a disservice as a streaming s.
That's the one. Well, I mean, we've said it out and many parts of these things never make it any sense, but the one thing that never made more sense than anything else is that. But anyhow, yeah.
Well, I I think the binging thing was fresh and new when it was first introduced >> and it really kind of maybe I mean I could have seen the benefit of it over maybe like co but like not like in a normal life setting like we just said who has the time to sit down and watch 5 to 10 hours worth of a show in one >> to be fair probably loads of people just we don't >> well and that's supposed to be our jobs this is what I'm saying See, like even me trying to keep up with some of this stuff. That's where it got me so stressed out for a while was just like I just finally protested for a little bit to the detriment of everybody in my channel and stuff here. It was just like I'm not going to watch it. I'm not going to care. I'm not going to do anything cuz I was so sick and tired of just doing nothing but waking up from the moment I get up watching streaming show, streaming show, streaming show, streaming show, streaming show, whether it was Marvel or Star Wars or whatever, Star Trek. And you get to a point where this stuff just bombards your brain and you're like, I can't deal with it anymore. I can't I can't watch any more of this crap, especially all in one go.
>> Especially when it really is crap, which unfortunately more often than not is the case.
>> Yes. Uh yeah. And I didn't watch any of this X-Men show. I heard it's good, but I just wasn't at that point. That was kind of during my protest, I guess, was my whole point of that. But yeah, so I'm I'm kind of away from that now. I'm trying to get back into watching more things. if you haven't noticed, I've been to the theater more this year. Um, so hopefully I'll start to catch up on some of the shows, but uh I just those are a little bit more difficult to get into, especially with our schedule, Andre and I's as far as how we work together. But uh anyhow, let's get past that. We got a couple more super chats here.
>> We got Carl in the house who's been a member for 41 freaking months. That's a long time. says, "I once flew from Minneapolis to Chicago and back for a concert. When we got back, we spent longer waiting on the runway than we did in the air." See, here's one of those trips I would just make on the ground.
And I know this trip very freaking well almost. Well, not the Minneapolis part.
I've been there a couple times, but I mean, you're look Yeah, I know it's like a six, seven, eight hour drive, but you're going to be spending that much time just trying to get into the airport, get on your plane, fly.
might as well just drove as far as the distance goes. I think if you it's all interstate, too. So, >> well, that being said, I do have a very early appalling news video where I documented a couple in a Bentley who went from the United States to Toronto to see KISS.
And then on their way back, I don't know how or why, uh there's a video of them flying through the uh the the border checkpoint. They hit some kind of concrete abutment and this Bentley is flying through the air and hits the ground and bursts into flames.
>> Oh my god, that's a waste of Bentley.
>> It was a waste of a good uh concert tickets. What are you talking about?
>> Well, that that too. That too. Well, depends on the concert though. But yeah, >> that was Kiss.
>> That was Kiss, man. Like you just said, >> I I'm so This is something that's going to bother me forever. I had multiple chances to see Kiss live. Even the original lineup and I didn't care because at the time when I had the opportunity, >> no, not Yeah, exactly. They weren't cool. They were like this freaking old dude gizard stuff that I didn't care about, didn't understand what they were, didn't understand their significance, anything like that. And I didn't go. And then as soon as I did understand, oh [ __ ] okay, so this is what KISS is.
This is their significance. And all of the dudes that I lose used to look down upon that would worship at KISS concerts, that's me now with Ramstein.
It's literally exact same thing. It's literally the exact same thing and I didn't know and by the time I understood it was too late because then they retired for real this time. So it's like a dude that's one of the most frustrating things in my life. But anyway, yeah, I've traveled for concerts as well. The longest I traveled for a concert was uh was was um uh from the Canary Islands to Germany to see Mead.
Got to hang out with Davis Denos. That was cool. It was worth it.
>> But you had to take a plane to do that.
>> Yes, I did. Does he talk like that?
>> Yes.
>> Sweet. So he's like, "It's nice to meet you, Andre."
>> Yeah. Yeah. He He scolded me for squeezing his hand too tight. So >> don't squeeze my hand. I need it for the guitar playing.
>> Pretty much >> five hours I would I would do that. Like five hours would be my limit in terms of going to something and then >> it was it was it was four and a half hours. Four and a half hours. But uh but then I also then it was still in the middle of nowhere in Germany. So I still had to like travel a bit of a distance there too.
>> Right. Yeah.
>> Right. And you know when you're not on the beaten trail then it takes forever to you know get the roadways make a big difference you know in terms of being able to get to someplace quickly.
>> Yep.
>> We lost >> uh Yeah. Uh I I think I have a feeling that he's going to be back again very shortly though. Well, what do we have another uh >> uh we do, but anyway, so Carl, yeah, kudos for for going to concerts and traveling. That's that's awesome.
Millet, uh taking us back to topic. Yes.
Amazon's model is season one binge if renewed weekly.
>> It is a well except for rings of power.
>> Except for rings of power because I'm sure there's other exceptions as well, but uh but that's one that instantly springs to mind uh if nothing else.
Well, I changed my view a little bit because if you noticed, I have something here.
>> More masters.
>> Yeah, the brand ones.
>> Yeah. From the movie. From the movie that Tom is looking so much forward to towards like that surprises me a little bit.
>> Uh I mean, surely you must have seen the most recent memes with Dolph Lunan and the new He-Man doing the Spider-Man pointy thing looking at each other.
Yeah. badly. But I got a point here.
Somebody gives us a big enough super chat that makes me wety wety, I will open these and I will show you what I think this movie is going to be.
>> You guys know what I mean.
>> That That should be good. That should be good. Yeah. Long time watching.
>> I figure that's 20 bucks good well spent. Don't you, Andre?
>> I think so. I think so. Yeah, >> that is well spent. But anyway, I'm glad that they do show Dolph Lung some respect >> and he's obviously getting a big big paycheck >> for uh for for from uh from Amazon marketing. So, good on him. I mean, he also, by the way, has his own reality show in Sweden right now. I don't know if it's on anywhere else, but uh yeah.
>> All I can picture is when he met the new kid, he's like, "Hello there. I'm He-Man and you are He Boy, and he shakes his hand." That's kind of like what it looks like when you see the two of them together like it seen. He's a big dude, >> but he looks like a little boy next to >> That's what I said. That was my reaction to the video. I'm like, "Okay, so we have He-Man and we have He Boy." Because one actually looks like He-Man.
Like look, say what you will about the 87 film. They nailed it with Dolph Lungren. Like there was probably not many people that were going to be better than that to play He-Man that at least had some charisma, right? like you just weren't going to find the combo other than maybe Arnold Schwarzenegger, but who wants to sit there and listen to him try to say all that kind of [ __ ] >> Yeah, but yeah, but he wouldn't have worked. I mean, was the perfect guy at the time. Couldn't have chosen better.
And looking at the new guy, it only makes me feel even stronger. You absolutely couldn't have done better than Dolph for He-Man.
>> No. Even now, that's what I say. Even if you had him play Adam and you had Dolph Lungren play He-Man, I would be better.
I would actually have more faith in the film if that makes sense. Because even He-Man, people, this is one thing I think everybody keeps forgetting about it is when He-Man becomes He-Man, just because he looked like Adam on the show, that was all cost. All cost had nothing to do with anything more than that. Like the whole idea is he's supposed to be this little kid or teenager who turns into this big hulking Hulk, right? Like they're not the same person. There's no way of like, oh, he kind of looks like Adam, you know, kind of [ __ ] happening in the show. Never once, not once. It was just, this is ridiculous that this is the part that's bothering me most.
It's like, you don't get your own lore, like any of it. I swear. And and the reviews are finally starting to come out, too. Did you see that, Andre? This is why I actually didn't question you thinking you were going to see it today because I believe that the embargo dropped today or whatever it was. If not the social media embargo did for the social media for sure. But yeah, >> everybody says it's fun, campy, and adventure. But >> we we knew this again.
>> There's nothing here we didn't already know.
>> Get ready for Thor Love and Thunder part two. Well, some someone mentioned that the that one thing that I took as a joke, uh, the pronoun moment, they said that it's not a joke in the movie, which I find hard to believe, but >> yeah. Well, I think maybe that the people who said that maybe misunderstood it. I don't know. We'll just have to wait and see.
>> We'll just have to fork out the 20 bucks just to confirm that one thing.
>> Oh, no. I was going to do that anyway. I was looking forward to seeing it today.
I'm disappointed I have to wait another week.
I mean, I've only been waiting for you, man, for 20 years. So, yeah.
Yeah. Well, I mean, uh, a a ton of stuff came out while I was in Japan and, uh, and, you know, it was such a drag having to actually go visit this wonderful country and miss all those fantastic movies and report on them.
>> Yeah. Well, at least you got to see a very big shoe. That was a promotional tie in Devil Wear while that's time well spent. So that came out. What else came out? So I >> here today we have some very young gentlemen who are great.
>> Right here we got To Gigio the Italian mouse.
>> God.
>> Give me a kiss. Give me a kiss. Ed give me >> you go. Of course you go to Topo Gjo.
>> Yeah.
Listen, as a kid I loved Toppo.
You and I are the only ones right now who even know who they are if under the age of 50 on the channel.
>> I know. I have no idea talking about Ed Sullivan show who's probably most famously known for introducing like Elvis and the Beatles and Jackson 5 and all that kind of business, but he always had this uh act on top of Xijou or whatever in however you say it. Yeah.
>> He was a some Spanish puppeteer.
>> Yeah.
Was it Papa or Tapo?
Toppo too. To topo was the name of was the name of the puppet.
>> And I'll have to look up who was the name of the uh the person, but I loved it as a kid. I mean, it was a small lad and and to me uh Toppo was extremely cute.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. To was huge in Mexico. Of course, cuz I mean, you know, >> see Andre might not even have an an idea of what that sin show really was. Okay.
So, you have like Johnny Oh, you know what it is. Okay. I was going to say you have like Johnny. I imagine it's like the it was Johnny Carson before Johnny Carson >> kind of it was variety show >> but it was prime time and it was the biggest audience then like everybody watched it like you know you only had two channels but I mean it was at Sullivan >> so for like 20 years he dominated that spot >> you have monoculture at the time >> and uh and he was very powerful in in much the same way as Carson or vice versa he could make he could make an act >> yeah the only one that probably preceded him was the Beatles. Like that was the only thing like they were just happening so hot that like that was like the big thing like he was introducing them to America basically. So that's kind of where he really kind of solidified between like I said between you know being the first guy to introduce America to Elvis kind of the first guy to introduce America to Beatles on a grand scale and like I said the Jackson 5 and a few other groups like that and other acts even >> in terms of in terms of a legacy >> and also video clips. Yes, >> it's it's really the only place most of the people actually know uh his existence. They they don't know anything else about uh Ed Sullivan. He was a entertainment reporter for a newspaper and then he got this magazine. A curiously u weird individual to be the host of a variety show cuz he wasn't he wasn't very magnetic. He looked like unconventional as a radio star because his voice was like >> really weird.
>> Yeah. And and you know, doing uh Ed Sullivan impersonations for me is is just as big as doing Carol Channing impressions.
Diamonds are a girl's best friend. See, there you go. Carol Channing. Who else on the internet?
>> And you look like her, too.
>> That's right. Actually, I look more like uh Paul Lynn right now.
>> Right now you do. Yes. I'm waiting for you.
>> Mickey and Oh, that's so awful.
>> You're such a caddyy [ __ ] >> Yes, that's right.
>> Yes. All these people that know.
>> Andre is just like all >> I'm just waiting for you to be done so we can move on.
>> Yeah. Have you seen the movie Charlotte's Have you seen the animated Charlotte's Web ever, Andre?
>> Nope. Okay, never mind. Then you have would have zero reference probably for Paul Lynn because I don't even think he's in that many old films all that often where >> never heard of him. Yeah. Uh Hollywood Squares.
>> Yeah, he mostly did voice work, but as far as like he was kind of a >> Yes, Bewitched he was on, but I don't even know if you were familiar with Bewitched much either. So, >> well, I know of the revival series, I think.
>> Yeah, no, he would have played the uncle in the original version.
>> Yeah, never saw it. very flamboyantly gay, but uh >> did kind of like sound a little bit flamboyant.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah. I saw that Star Trek released their Pride Celebration issue. I'm going to check it out. See if >> he was kind of an OG Hollywood diva cuz one of my favorite stories of his is he got drunk as [ __ ] and drove into a mall.
Literally drove into a mall and the cops are like, "Sir, step out of the vehicle, please." And he's like, "Oh, I'll just have a shake and some fries."
Like he's just completely [ __ ] crazy just like in a good way.
But anyhow, packet protons says, "Andre stole my Chrissy Mayor joke Monday from last week." Well, we got to pocket that stuff sometimes and use the good stuff.
So if we steal something from you, that means we liked it >> a lot, just like musicians. So keep that in mind. Oh, or comedians. Paul, I'm sure you're familiar with the old stealing jokes from other comedians stuff.
>> Uh, I mean, that's uh a lot of people have been accused of that. Um, if I whenever I wrote a joke and then it found that some other comedian had thought about it.
>> I It just dropped the joke. I I never did it again.
>> Um, I try not to >> I don't even remember making a Chrissy Mayor joke. You >> okay? Well, I mean, um, uh, what's that?
Uh, Dne, that stand DNE was accused of stealing a lot of other people's jokes. And of course, that uh that woman who who's the daughter >> Schumer, yes, she's like well doumented stealing jokes. Nobody likes that. That that is a very very bad thing in the world of standup.
>> You know who you don't see stealing jokes? Jeff Dunham. That's who.
>> You don't see him stealing jokes?
>> No, cuz he's not funny at all.
>> Yeah.
>> If he was funny, he'd actually steal some good jokes. There >> there's some very good comedians, and I can't remember the name of the guy, but there's this one guy who does an entire routine on the uh George Foreman grill.
>> I think I may know who you're talking about. Actually, >> one of the funniest bits. I first I'm looking at it. I'm going, "Okay, really?
you're going to do a bid on George Foreman and it just keeps on going, you know? We had one and I'm going, "Oh my god." Yeah. So, yes. Maybe maybe like maybe have put a onoff switch on it. No.
Nope. Just plug it into the wall and have it heat up to 550 degrees in no time. Could Could Could Could Could Could Could Could Could Could Could Could Could we maybe uh you know uh make it so the outside is not as hot as the inside? Nope. Nope. Just put it on an angle so the grease just drips out all over your table.
>> That's right. When you lose the drip carrier, you know, so it's all just flows. All that that uh >> it's a cheap 50 cent piece of [ __ ] anyway. So what are you going to do?
>> H how about how about being able to take the grill part out so it's easy to wash?
Nope. We're going to fuse it right into the plastic. Make it too big for your sink. So >> can't put it in your dishwasher. Don't even think about it. Uh, you know how much George Foreman made off that [ __ ] grill?
>> Well, I think he said he made more money off that grill than he ever did boxing or anything else.
>> No doubt. But I think he I mean he just lent his name to it. That's all it was.
>> Okay. Yeah.
>> Yeah. He was like the second or third in line. They called people. They're just like, "You want to be part of this? You want to be the promoter of this?" And like they're like, "No, no." Or they couldn't get a hold of him. And George Foreman just happened to answer the phone. He's like, "Sure, I'll do that."
Next thing you know, he basically invented infomercials with that [ __ ] Well, we we had to get rid of ours because everything that he described in his routine that was bad about the George Foreman grill, you know, and then it takes 8 hours to cool down and >> they were basically just the that era's thing, you know, like everybody saw those things like, "Oh, I got to have one of those things."
>> That on it just so we CAN ADJUST IT.
NOPE. 550 degrees. That's it. That's all it does.
>> Make it easy.
>> Make it easy. That's right. Just put it on an angle. I think my chat has frozen, guys. Um, >> well, maybe not. Maybe it's moving.
Okay, there's something weird about Streamyards has been just they've been changing and wonky things up. I forgot to change.
>> Those grills must have sold like hot cakes.
>> They did. They actually did.
>> And it worked. I mean, in theory, it worked. It's just that it was dangerous as hell.
>> Absolutely. Then Dark King says, "I once had a three-hour flight at Sydney Airport. Got me from Terminal One to Terminal 4. Bastards wouldn't give me duty duty free either.
>> That sucks.
>> That's a good >> Hey, Paulie. Nice shirt you got there.
That's a love shirt. Holy [ __ ] >> Hello.
>> Margaritas.
>> Oh, you're so loud, >> dude.
>> Oh my god. This little Mexican kid would watch the freaking Hollywood squares every day. They loved it.
>> We always did. There's nothing else on.
What are you going to watch? You You just sit around and wait for Mr. Rogers and [ __ ] You're just like, "Okay, we got to sit here and watch Hollywood Squares with grandma, you know, >> and whammy." What's What was the Press Your Luck? Press Your Luck was the other one. And >> oh my god, >> and the match game got dirty.
>> Yes, the match game was always fun.
>> But then also too, H&R Puff and stuff.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah. Well, yeah, that was Yeah.
Saturday morning type stuff.
>> How about the bananas?
>> Yeah. La.
>> That was a Marty Croft. I think >> it was Sid Marty Croft.
>> Oh, Dr. Shrinker. Land of the Lost.
>> Yep. All those then flying blind on a rocket. It's like Well, all right. Let's see Tom get >> Oh, >> excited. All right. I guess that's enough.
>> Oh, here we go.
>> There we go.
>> That's enough.
>> Thank you.
>> I can do that. So, anyhow, what was the topics for today, Andre? I know we were talking.
>> Yeah, the the main topic so we can get that over the way because it's a relatively slow news day. uh Deadline Hollywood, they announced some cast um to um for like the reboot of Little House on the Prairie. Uh so >> that's still happening.
>> That is still happening. It's still happening and it's moving forward. They just announced some some more cast there if you want to talk about that. But no, the big story that I had when I set the stream up because again really slow news day was that Mandu and Grou missed big benchmark because basically it failed to reach 100 million in its 4day opening weekend. It got to like 98.5 or something. So big whoop doesn't really change anything.
The movie is still, I know many people say it's a massive, massive flop, but I still maintain relative to where Star Wars is right now. Can't just look at that movie in isolation. Just like Endgame, you have to look at it. Does this damage the franchise more or is it completely neutral? And if anything, maybe win a few people back for the next movie. Uh, I maintain that is still the case. Even if it didn't reach 100 million, I if anything, I'm surprised it got to 98.5 or where whatever it got.
Still hasn't got 200 million internationally. But hey, the damage is worldwide. The Star Wars was always much much stronger brand in the US than literally anywhere else. It's like you the US and Europe and Australia because that's English speaking. Those were like the home territories for Star Wars.
that's where it's going to make most of its money. So, uh, yeah, Mandalorian Goku not doing amazing for Star Wars traditionally, but given the realities of where the market is today, doing pretty good. I would say that's the main story. Paulie, am I completely wrong about that assessment?
>> No, no, no. It's got some heavy lifting to do. Uh that being said, uh you look at the numbers, uh you you look at them globally, it's it's, you know, it should have done worse. Worth all the >> I agree. It should have done even worse.
I mean, this all things considered, this is a solid win.
>> Yeah. And u I'm calling this the new ecosystem of entertainment. That's my new thing.
>> Yeah, you're not wrong. You like that >> trademark >> the the ecosystem of entertainment with with with Disney and with Lucasfilm is that you got the money that it's making traditional theaters the merchandise I hear it's charting uh then you're going to do the uh the VOD sales and then finally the streaming uh ultimately it's going to end up on um Disney Plus where already all the Star Wars um properties are charting back up, but particularly Darth Maul and Mando are two and three as of as of this week. So, you take it for what it is.
>> Yeah. And what it is is uh could have been a whole hell lot of worse. Uh other news while we wait for Tom to get ready here is you know the uh Christopher Lee Dracula, the one from 1957.
It's getting released in 4K and it's getting a brand new version, never seen before, at least not outside outside of Japan because they were able to find the original uncensored version that has more blood, gore, and nudity.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah. So, that will be will be coming later this year around Halloween time. I thought that was an interesting news bit.
That's kind of weird because they just found the original ending to the original Dracula. Did you know about that?
>> The original 1931.
>> Yeah, the the Bella Losce one.
>> Oh, sorry.
>> You're talking about 1930 like the 31 one.
>> Yeah. Because for those who don't know, and it's been talked about and there's clips of it out there, but they finally found an actual reel with it on it >> uh at the end of the movie. I forget the actor, but he also did the same thing on Frankenstein where he comes out at the end of the movie. He goes, "Don't worry, pit friends. It's okay. Don't be afraid.
There is such a thing as vampires."
And then ends like that. It's him just out on a stage talking, but it got completely chopped off the movie. It's not much, but it's been missing for, you know, almost a hundred years.
>> So, >> but this is cool, too. I didn't even hear about this. This is brand new news to me. So, I knew they were working on a 4K release of this, but I didn't know anything about the un >> So, just like your 1987 Masters of the Universe, which will be also be getting an uncensored version, which is uh which is uh awesome.
>> Well, to be clear, >> is also getting then an uncensored version. This is brilliant news. I just wish why couldn't we have that for Conan the Destroyer? Because that is a case where it really might have made a massive difference. And who knows about this? But still, I'm excited for this. I mean, this now and which is not great for the rest of Hollywood, but this suddenly shot up shot up to become my honestly number one most anticipated movie the rest of the year, a 1957 release or 1958 movie. And it's like a new rapping.
>> So, I was going to add that I I agree. I want to check this out as well. Um, but it's very strange. Uh, I don't What do you guys think? This is now three different Dracula films where the uncut version was lost for decades.
Right. So, you got the ending that you just talked about with Bella Los Goza.
You have this one new unearly unear uncut version.
And then the infamous one that was filmed in Spanish simultaneously as the Bella Losce shot during the day.
of night, >> right? And they and they, you know, um that version uh was lost till the mid70s and they found a they found literally found the cans, the film cans in like some film archives in Cuba.
And did you hear about this, Andre?
>> Actually, no. This is news to I I was just like thinking, yeah, luckily, thank God for basically bootleggers because that's what it is. All of these things are bootlegs. These are private collections. And that is how that is basically how Noseratu survived. That's how most of the oldtimey movies from older than the 30s and 40s survived.
It's not through archives or official archives, studio archives, but through bootlegs, legal copies.
>> I don't know if it's bootleg. Well, it could be in some cases.
>> Absolutely. Yes, in most cases.
>> Well, in in the case of Metropolis, they found a whole chunk of it because they were bicycling the movie all over the world. You know what bicycling is?
>> Yeah.
>> Right. Uh they didn't just suddenly distribute, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of film footage all at once to multip.
>> Yeah. No, they moved the literally same print around from city to city. They found the majority of the present version of Metropolis in a theater in Venezuela or somewhere in South America. They found the, you know, a really, really good version, a more complete version of Metropolis.
>> Yeah.
>> In a theater where it was just there.
They showed it in Venezuela and it never got shipped back. They just >> It was either Yeah. Yeah, it was either that or part of somebody's private collection.
>> The Metropolis one was >> Cosgrove. Uh Cosg Gro and then something in either Chinese or kanji. I'm not able to tell the difference. Well, same difference anyway.
>> There was says it means a collector recently died and the family are selling off his crap more often than not. Yes, that's >> I was just going to say this. Yep. I was just going to say this is generally how some of these things are found and I'm not even kidding. is that somebody will die. They don't even realize they have it because they ended up buying like a buttload of like 35mm prints or something like that >> and they may actually hold on to the diamond in the rough somewhere in their collection. It's very plausible.
>> Sure. You'd be surprised.
>> Baseball cards like your grandfather dies and you find that you got the Tai Cobb collection.
Well, not just that, but before video. I mean, this was one of the reasons why Rody McDow got kind of uh black balled from Hollywood for the longest time because he was one of the first guys to really bring in bootleg video because nobody else was releasing actual movies, >> but he was a avid film collector. So, he would actually make videotapes of movies and pass them around and sell them to his friends. Well, that got him in trouble in Hollywood. And when he, you know, basically ratted out all his friends, they blacklisted him for movies for years because of that. And so a lot of those collections that come out, like that's where they're coming from is these private collectors who've curated these films over the years and they're not cheap. I mean, that's the other thing people need to understand is unless you're stealing them, which I'm saying didn't I'm not saying didn't happen because a lot of times the theaters once you hit the end of the line, they would just be like toss the print or whatever, blah blah blah, >> and they would just give it away or whatever. By that point, they're generally just ragged as hell. So, if you want to get a hold of a decent one at that, even at that time, you're talking a couple grand or better just to get a film print. In some cases, even real expensive. So, I mean, that's the thing is you got these rich collectors and other people out there have curated all these films over the years and they're just, you know, as as you pointed out in the super or not super chat, but the the chat on the screen, you know, they're passing away and then that's when these things finally get found, which is sad, but yeah.
>> Well, being a proper cineaphile was never cheap.
>> No, that's why I don't [ __ ] too much about 4K discs costing so much, but go ahead.
Sorry.
>> No, no, no. I was just saying also too, it's just kind of like it was a different era. So even even we with with uh with the uh original Dracula I believe it was uh was it was it Goldwin uh that it was under and he charged his son it's like hey you go and produce these films and do one doing during the day with Bella and then the nighttime one and uh was really fascinating uh story because they they got this done and for a while I believe it was Goldwin and them they were actually uh they had enough sense to do like the English ones during the day and the Spanish ones at night because then you're hitting a whole another market at the same time.
>> Yeah. Finally, I just wanted to say is that it's not until much much later that those families whether it's the estate like maybe like the Tolken estate say whatever that they'll take they'll they'll take back uh like they'll find those archives and then they're the the stewards of them for better for worse >> sometimes for worse and interesting on Dracula like the Spanish one is widely considered to be the better version >> but uh Yeah, let's move on here.
>> Yeah, cuz uh what do we got? Did you want to stay say some more about this or is that all there is to say about the >> I I think there's pretty much all there is to say it uh say about it. I'm just like I I love it. I'm here for it. Do this for many other things as well. Give us the unrated thing because sometimes actually most of the time the director had the cut and they had to butcher it for a theatrical release. especially in the case of Conan the Destroyer.
>> And where is this going? Is this going to be seen on theaters or streaming?
>> It's going to be uh it's going to be uh be a limited theatrical release some places, not everywhere, but limited theatrical release. And then it's a physical media 4K. Uh and as for streaming, honestly, I couldn't even tell you where to stream the Hadern movies right now. I'm sure there has to be some kind of obscure streaming service I think that carries them, but I know the big they certainly don't.
>> Yeah, that's what I mean.
>> Well, shutter get shutter, >> but Universal, I think, owns the rights to most the Hammer films except for this one and a few of the others Warner owns.
So, that's the thing is I think they're kind of split up.
>> Yeah. amongst the two because for me the weird thing is is this is actually >> not the first time they found more footage of this film. Believe it or not, the last release was the the uh version that's was released in the UK years and years ago because that version hadn't been seen for the longest time and that had several trims throughout. So that means there's even more that got trimmed out cuz that version I imported had two different versions already. the American version and the uh foreign version which was a little more bloodier and I think it had some flashes of more cleavage and stuff like that. But if they actually found full-on nudity and blood cuz that was the thing is hammer horrors. They they were kind of like upping the ante quite a bit with those, you know. It's like that's what they apparently found here.
>> Yeah. So, we'll see cuz that'd be interesting to see how far they were trying to take this at the time.
>> Yeah. I I think this is really good too for this young generation of uh of cophiles, movie goers that seem to be kind of uh in love with going to cinema again and with uh with physical media.
Uh you know, from Michael to Obsession to uh No More Binge Watching, I know you guys were talking about it earlier. Uh this is great. There's also going to be a rated R cut, if you can believe that, of the X Files. Uh uh I want to believe film which was already a pretty X-rated subject matter. Excuse me. R-rated.
R-rated subject matter.
>> X-rated X Files.
>> Yeah, that's where it was. It's a going to be an R-rated release on Disney Plus of all places. So they're just going to show DVN's Love Life.
>> That was another series I believe, >> right?
>> Yes, that's right.
>> That's Californiaication.
>> Calication. Californiaation. That was a good show >> and a good red hot chili pepper song.
>> Yeah. No, this one I want to believe is a pretty heavy subject matter tied in with uh with organ uh organ harvesting and selling.
>> All right. So, I'm looking forward to this. Yeah, this is the thing about this Dracula that I love is even though it's a period piece, >> it feels so ahead of its time. If you've ever seen it, I think you might know what I mean. Like it just the way it was shot, as violent and visceral as it is, there's no way you like this was 1958 or 59 or whatever this was made. Are you kidding me? It It feels like a deep in the60s film like the way it look. I don't know if you guys agree with me or not, but it's it's one of the better Dracula adaptations. It's >> It was very ahead of its time.
>> Exactly. Yeah.
So, I look forward to this. This is going to be interesting. not just the the the 4K release, but the opportunity to possibly see it in theaters as well.
So, >> yeah.
>> So, with that, we did get uh super chats in the meantime if we want to bring those up.
>> Yeah, let's do.
>> We got Indie Shade, who says, "Paulie, do you remember a Spanish language kid shows in the 80s where the where there was a carnival on a big sound stage?
What was it called?"
>> Yeah, man. I remember that show. I loved it. Right.
La vgre la vgre. There you go. Thank you. Good luck.
Gracias. Gracias. My name Jose Jimenez.
Yes. Bill Dana. Bill Dana was not a Latino. No.
>> Oh, I know that name.
>> He was a Hungarian Jew.
>> There you go.
>> How do I know that name?
Verra. Yeah, great great show, man.
>> He actually stopped doing that character on his own. He said, "You know what? Uh, you know, it's it's time has come and gone."
>> No, he actually did it because I was working for uh Showtime uh Latino Laugh Festival in the 90s. And we we brought him back in and we paid him. Now, he he he took the money. He did it. He did his character again.
>> Okay.
>> And paid, man. Was he funny?
>> He was funny.
>> Okay.
>> Funny, you know.
>> Yeah. Bill Dana uh had some really good instructions on comedy which I've >> followed was just basically always do racist characters.
>> Well, well, I'm going to be talking about that in about an hour with the Popcast Brothers. We're going to be breaking down the whole Kevin Hart roast and the backlash.
Uh cuz it's like, you know, I guess people just don't understand. Uh Chelsea Handler incident.
>> She's a [ __ ] man.
>> No, she's a complete [ __ ] >> She's a [ __ ] [ __ ] >> Oh, yeah. No.
>> What did she do now?
>> She complained.
>> She complained that, you know, white supremacy. Yes. At the at the roast and >> the George Floyd joke.
>> The George Floyd joke. And uh, you know, everyone's a you know, this guy's a Tony Hinchcliffe is a Nazi.
>> Yes.
>> You know, he's very funny. Tony, >> but they went after her, bro. I mean, >> Oh, yeah. I saw this for a second time with my dad the other day because he at first he didn't want to see it and I just put it on because I I'm like, "Dad, The Rock's gonna be in it because he loves The Rock." And man, my dad was spitting up his drink. He >> What was the name of the uh the black female standup?
>> Oh god, Stacy.
>> Yeah, she was the best. Well, some So, anyways, we're going to break that down because the the Breakfast Club tried to get Kevin Hart to to uh to uh go back on on Tony Hinchcliffe set. He's like, "Fuck no, I ain't going to do that. That was a great He's like, then he even said, you know what, that was the probably the best set of night." So, of course, everyone's going crazy, but it's this >> we're talking about like you you remind me when you said that >> in regards to doing those racist characters. I mean, shouldn't that's when we should be doing them at least as standup comedy is offensive [ __ ] you know?
>> Well, and and you know, they're doing it in also a a meta way, which not everybody really understands. Just just going back to Bill Dana, he he was very influential in terms of how I write because I like using words uh that are interesting and and good substitutes. He he talked about don't don't say the swear words, come up with something else. I mean, Woody Allen, you know, had a terrific way of of saying go [ __ ] yourself, which was go forth and multiply.
>> I Yeah, I think we should lay some context here because I I know uh some people in the chat are asking and then Andre wouldn't know. So, Jose Mendes was an astronaut.
>> Yes.
>> But he was like, you know, obviously a Latino who didn't know any English and he would come on the Ed Sullivan show.
Yes. And they would ask him questions and he always had the same answer. My name is Yeah. He never really >> see everything comes back to the Ed Sullivan show here.
>> Yeah. That's why I brought it up. That's why I brought up old people too is a great example that I remember to this day is that he said um uh uh stakes on fire is not as funny as flaming flanken.
>> That's true. So, so and he had a compendium of that. And to me, when I'm sit there and when I write, especially polling news, >> the terms of phrase that people come back to me and say, "Holy smokes."
Number one, I I didn't know that word existed, which is fun to dredge up, the $5 word. And then number two is is phrasing things in a way in a non-lazy way.
>> Yes. It's it's one of the things I find frustrating with a lot of pundits on YouTube is that they don't spend enough time to try to come up with a different way to phrase things. Anyways, I work very hard to try to come up with a >> and I appreciate that.
>> I can't >> I also appreciate that as someone that really has to struggle sometimes with how to phrase myself in a way that people are going to understand. Well, there's that that that's just >> I write Andre some of his best puns to be honest with you, but like uh there was a few last night in in the video we did that dropped today that I don't even know if he got off hand that I dropped in there cuz some of them I'm sure you did, but some of them I'm not sure you caught, but uh anyhow, I mean, Glory Days I think you picked up pretty easy on some of the >> Yeah. So, Bill Dana was uh very influential and an old style comic that really did work hard on the >> the the you know how how the words were developed. George Carlin was another person exacting in his vocabulary. Joan Rivers was also very exacting.
>> Robin Williams sometimes too and I can't remember who said it. It was some maybe it was Carlin but I don't think it was for some reason who basically said that yes there's certain words that are funnier just basically what you just said in so many words.
>> Yeah. And then they also said like anything that has like a a certain harder sound to it also will >> from the Sunshine Boys. That's the the monologue from the I've seen that about three times. That's why >> it's any with a K. It's a much funnier word. Just always come up with sounds like a K. Okay.
>> Thank you, Paul. That's where I heard it. Okay.
>> Steven Wright's great, too. Yes.
>> Steven Wright again. Oh gosh. Very exacting. Uh uh Emo Phillips.
>> Yes.
>> Super. I mean, just the choice of words, she was beautiful from the tip of her head to the tag on her toe.
>> You know, it was like just two years ago or three years ago that I found out that Emo Phillips was in the original Meet the Parents and then that Meet the Parents was a remake.
>> I didn't know that.
>> I didn't either until more recently. I was like, "What the hell?"
>> You mean the the [ __ ] >> Yeah, >> they have a new Fauler movie coming out.
>> Yeah, they do. And and that's when I think I heard about this is when they first announced that was coming along.
like a year or two ago basically. Yeah.
And I saw it and I found it on I think YouTube or at least clips from it or whatever. But yeah, Emo Phillips is in it. It's like what the [ __ ] is this?
>> He's not really a good actor.
>> No, but like Andre might not. He You've seen him before, but you may not know who he is from his name. You've seen UHF, right?
>> Yes. The guy who >> I've seen him live.
>> Oh, you've seen Oh, so you know who Emo Phillips. Okay. I was surprised. Okay.
All right. So, yeah. I went warmed up for Weird Al.
>> That makes sense. I was just going to say if you know him, it's because of the Weirdowl connection. He's in UHF. Yeah.
>> Yes.
>> He was a very funny lunch companion.
>> And he's got a very specific delivery just like Steven Wright. Yes.
>> Yeah. He's he's one of those people I'm jealous of because they are funny on their own in of themselves without even opening their mouths.
>> Yes. Cuz he's just going to >> Yeah. He's got the thing. He's got the royal jelly. You You really just are.
>> Today, kids, we're going to talk about eating a fish.
>> I will say there's a whole slew of new female standup comics who are extremely funny. I don't know where they suddenly came out. Uh, you know, where they came from, but everyone complains about not having female comics, but they're >> maybe because it's safe for them to say just about anything. Probably that's >> Well, it's it's a it's a great time.
Standup comedy, I think, is is is uh is finding its footing again.
>> Making its comeback.
>> Yeah, >> could be. Pack of proton sends in 20 smackaroos. Thank you for that. That'll help pay for the figures here. Uh Tom, what did you think of my idea for Midnight's Edge in the morning Dracula movie, Curse of Dracula? It sounds interesting as hell. Town's people and Dra strike a deal. Le He leaves them alone in exchange for their criminals.
But what happens when crooks run out?
Yeah, cuz that's a deterrent that would probably work.
I'd watch that.
>> Yeah, that's an interesting film. Uh Marsman 117B says, "Pollyie, watch Space King." Paul recommended, >> huh?
Watch >> Paul can recommend it. Space.
>> Oh, the Yeah. Oh, the the animation the the animated series.
>> Hilarious.
>> I'm still going to watch Darth Maul.
>> Violent.
>> Okay.
>> Where's it on?
>> YouTube.
>> Oh, okay.
All right. Very funny. It's kind of a a Warhammer parody.
>> Let me look it up right now. Thank you, Mark.
>> All right. So, with that, what else did we have? That was it for super chats for now.
>> No, no one. We have not talked about Mando and Grou at all today.
>> Well, we did I did address it briefly.
That was the main topic, but uh but you haven't seen it.
>> No.
>> And the the big news, as I said before, is that Yeah, it's slightly underperforming some expectations.
again. Many were like hoping it would cross >> uh 100 million in its like its 4-day weekend and it didn't do that barely.
>> Yeah. As of today it did. Right. As of >> as of today it did but it didn't uh but it didn't on like the four or five day benchmark.
>> Correct. Right.
>> Took one more day to get there.
>> Um yeah I have some thoughts. I don't know if Chado wanted to chime in.
>> Sure I'm glad. Well, Mando, you said you brought you wanted to talk Mando for a second.
>> Well, I mean, I I'm No, no, I I want other people to talk about it so I can listen.
>> I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I don't know.
>> But I was one of the few people who didn't hate it actually, Paul. like everybody else was like out with their pitchforks and knives and they're going after this thing and torches and I had to actually kind of step in and Paulie did too in some cases it looked like and he kind of even came in hot on the on the show the other day just because of how people were talking about this movie but >> it's one of those movies that I think a lot of people online are are fuming about and excuse >> and taking their their >> aggression and anger out on Disney out on and it's I feel like it's the wrong target. I think Paulie kind of agrees with me. It's like this this is not as deserving of the of the hate that it's getting. Yeah. Basically, >> exactly. When when you are um angry over all the euro bosses and the force being made female, don't take it out on the one project that that is actually about uh about dudes and fathers. I mean, pick your target.
>> Yeah.
>> You better believe it, Hassan. Sorry. Go ahead. on a box office uh you know uh uh note cho is that listen it's it's got all it's got all the IMAX theaters for the next three weeks right so that's it saving grace there's a you know in the in in the pocket that it's in till scary movie >> um I as much as Obsession is killing it at the box office uh it's it's a it really is a completely different audience Um, but it's doing some incredible things. I finally saw Obsession, but uh with Mando, it's got it it really needs to uh make all its money between, you know, like we had said like the these first two weeks and uh there it is.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
It'll be very interesting to see how much it is going to um it is going to um uh fall in week two because that's that'll be telling.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean they're they're I guess the magic number is they don't want it to go below 60 65%. Well, they want it to go to 60 65. They want it like they don't want it to go higher then, you know. But we'll see.
>> Yeah, I agree. 65%. That's the magic number here because that's what Solo dropped.
>> Oh, is that what it Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. They keep comparing this to Solo also, Kato. So, >> yeah, >> as far as numbers and stuff.
>> Yeah, exactly. And >> I think that's unfair, too. I think they should be trying to compare and may even if it's worse for the film, they comparing it more to Rogue One, which is what it's more like.
>> Sorry.
Oh, I had my phone going off anyway. So, yeah. No, I again it's not that great of a movie. It's good. It's not like, you know, 10 out of 10 or anything like that. It's not even anywhere remotely close to the original Star Wars films, but I mean I I enjoyed it. I had fun. I don't know if I rewatched it again if I feel the same. I know you're going again, right, Pauly? Or did you go see it again?
>> I already saw it again.
>> Yeah. So, and you feel the same way. So, >> yeah. I mean, I I liked it even more the second time around. Got to get into a lot of the nuances of the story. It's very simple.
>> It did move a little better for me, but I, you know, I, you know, you're either going to like it or not, you know. So, um, the I think what's interesting is the kind of the IP that that it that Grouro's been since 2020, 2021. It's basically only Disney's only saving grace. It's like the monster that sells and so it keeps on selling as far as merchandise.
And this is just uh you know also too Paul that this movie was relative comparatively cheap to their other TV shows andor the acolyte and of course their their movies to make.
>> Well andor was extraordinarily expensive.
>> Expensive.
Yeah. The the question that I had was the uh you know I I think Lucas did a fairly good job of making the prequels uh popular even though they didn't technically contain the original three.
Whereas Disney, I think, really suffered from the fact that they didn't move, you know, they didn't bring the original three along to uh to um slowly get people interested in in their new universe. They kind of abruptly cut him off at the knees. But I I give Lucas credit for world building. He concentrated on world building in one, two, and three, right? I mean, almost to a ridiculous point where you had big long speeches in the Senate and really, okay, that's that's that's this is the adventure that we're going to have, these long speeches from uh these bureaucratic speeches. But yet, you know, you I think Queen Amadala, we totally believed her as a new character in Star Wars. No one objected to that.
We liked the young Anakin. That was fine. And we were totally into uh you know, McGregor as Obi-Wan. I mean, he he really did a good job of >> he was f he's the best part.
>> Yes, I I I agree. Along with um um oh, the Irish the other Scottish guy or the Irish guy Quao Jin. Qui-Gon Jin, which was not just a clever name because Liam Niss was drunk the entire time.
>> So, I I think that was an amazing feat to, you know, even though the first movie kind of sucked, the second movie half sucked and the third movie was actually pretty good.
um he he managed to create continued to create a universe which I was very impressed with. I think okay well I mean he's really filled out what the build world building was going to be in Star Wars and then Disney couldn't do anything else couldn't do it couldn't do anything with it all that work.
>> Yeah. Or at least they didn't want to.
That's the thing is they they could they didn't want to. It was a matter of will and ideology.
>> Yeah. And and and the fact that I think uh JJ Abrams made the first movie more like the first three and um Ryan made the second movie more like the complicated like the uh the prequels. So no one really knew what the style of the movies was going to be. So then I mean so you know that comes to my question is that uh Mandalorian Grou uh you know uh was it capable of actually creating its own mythology without on its own? Is it something that we would want to see without, you know, the original three >> if it was the I think the release timing of it is I mean that kind of shows with how well it is doing. See, that's the thing is everybody's like talking doom and gloom on it. And I'm not trying to, you know, piss on any of my friends or anything like that, but I'm just stating the obvious. It's like everybody's talking doom and gloom about this movie, but it's like this is what I was saying is like I wish it was more cut and dry one way or the other because at this point it's really kind of center of the road or it really reminds me of the Batman >> where there was two sides of this whole thing with the Batman coin and I I kept trying to tell people like look if you're if you're a Snider fan don't go see the Batman and if you aren't then go see the Batman because that was basically what I was being told from my folks was they needed to find out is are people ready to move on from Ben Affle black and and at the same time how much damage was done and they kind of learned from that that yeah people are willing to move on from Ben Affleck but the damage had been done because we had a Batman movie now that couldn't make a billion dollars and I mean I'm not saying they necessarily had the expectations that it would but they seen that as a big downturn from the last two or three Batman films if you don't count Superman and Batman movie because you know the last two Nolan films made over a billion dollars right so that's where they were looking at it.
And this is kind of a similar thing here if you ask me. It's like it could be worse, right? It could be tanking completely. Had it only opened to 20 or 30 million, then we'd be like, "Oh, Star Wars is really [ __ ] dead. It is so dead that you can't even get a movie to open over 40 50 billion dollars. That's horrible." But instead, it didn't. It did. It did. In between there, it did like 80 to 100 million, which is kind of where everybody kind of expected it to fall anyway. So, that's where I'm kind of wondering where a lot of the doom and gloom is coming from. And I'm like, at the end of the day, I don't think anybody is is worried over Disney right now about this movie for the most part.
I think they're fine with it. I'm sure they they wished it would have done better, but all things said, this is actually a win for Disney. I hate to admit it.
>> It is. It totally is.
>> And we'll see uh for win or loss on week week two.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I would be surprised, Chado, if you liked it.
>> Oh, >> I don't think you're going to really like it, Kato. I think I think Paulie is right. It's too >> You're going to come out of it going, and this is just my prediction. I could be completely wrong.
>> You will say a lot of the things that a lot of other people say, and that it has no weight to it. It feels like a Saturday morning cartoon. Three of them exactly, stuffed together with no real stakes. And you'll probably pick apart a lot of the plot points and stuff like that, which is fair, right? It does have, I'm sure, a few plot holes here and there.
>> Did you see the Go? I'm sorry, Tom.
>> No, I just say, but I don't think you're going to like it either, really, but I could be wrong.
>> Well, I'm looking forward to not liking it.
>> Well, did you ever see the TV show, the first season?
>> Yes.
>> And >> season one, I loved. I thought, okay, this is fantastic. This is uh The Rifleman. It is uh it is kung fu. I just want them to go from town to town, planet to planet, and just beat people up. That's all.
>> That's literally >> I was just going to say, now that I think about it, you're you're going to sum it up as the movie sucked, but it would been great if it was a TV show.
>> That's the biggest complaint, right?
That's a criticism is that, well, it's just like uh three episodes of Mando.
And I'm like, "Yeah, and and you know, >> it's not a bad thing."
>> That's what I don't understand either, other than like I said, we should get some stakes with it, at least in a sense of, you know, a surprise, right? Like the baby talking for the first time.
Anything, right? Something that we never got in the show.
>> I I would have been happy to get rid of Grou and then replace him as part of a kind of Zeno Warrior combo with Ahsoka.
If if it was Mando and Ahsoka going from town to town, I think that'd be pretty cool.
>> Well, then you're really not gonna like that.
>> Oh, >> well, >> it's pretty grou heavy.
>> No, no, no, no, no. I I that's that's not my point. My point is that >> they just lost their their minds.
>> Well, I think they did >> Oh my god. Grou, Grou, Grou.
>> I think they did a disservice with not doing the original ending they were going to do or cutting it off or whatever happened because I don't know if you guys heard about this. I brought it up briefly. the other day, but uh they they were going to have a flash forward sequence where we actually got to see Grou as a full-fledged adult Jedi.
>> Oh, I see.
>> Yeah.
>> And I felt like they should have left that on cuz to me I'm like there, that's it. This that means this is done. We're done with this story now. We don't need any more to go farther. But it feels like to me somebody at Disney said, "Oh, no. You can't take that baby away from us just yet."
>> Correct.
>> See, I had a feeling that the other day, >> too. And if you do you know something about that? Cuz I had a weird feeling about that when I was reading about that the other I'm like, I have a feeling they were going to do this. And somebody at Disney told Favro, "No, you can't because we want more Mando." And he was kind of done, I think.
>> Oh, they were they they were totally nervous about this movie, but they wanted to wanted it to play safe to the families and lean into Grou. That's all the intel I got, you know. Um, but you're absolutely right, which is why they brought brought him back to begin with, cuz the his merch was doing so damn well. Remember, he was done after season two.
>> That's what I was thinking, too. It almost felt like this movie was headed towards, you know, the the Logan ending in a way. And if it had that other flash forward sequence, I would have been like, "Okay, good. We're done here.
>> We don't need to see anything else."
>> I I brought this up to Star Wars Megs when she was on my channel the other day and even stumped her. Go listen.
In the trailer, one of the early trailers, you heard you heard Ding Jarn saying, you know, he's he's going to be around for centuries. I won't always be here to protect him. Who the f is he talking to? And that was not in the movie.
Dinger saying that. There was another kind of iteration that the Jabas kind of said that, but it was a total different scenario.
>> Yeah, they say it in the movie now, but Yeah.
>> Right. But it's a total different scenario. And so in the trailer, so obviously there was stuff filmed or even recorded, but listen, we got >> I heard another rumor. Did you hear this, Paulie? That there was >> maybe I even heard it from you. So this is where I'm trying to remember where I read it or heard it from.
>> Yeah. um about like there was m a lot more Star Wars stuff in the movie that got cut out basically like not so much characters and stuff but like places events things like that or whatever that would lead kind of tie into more things I guess but Disney made them get rid of it >> that I didn't hear about >> basically to make it more universal so you didn't have to have seen a bunch of these other shows and stuff >> but that kind of goes on that kind of goes along with what I'd heard that there was another script that would have had Caradoon or elements of her. And I I'm gonna be honest, man. You know, I've been re-watching the first two seasons and uh you know, her and Carl Weathers, man, they they were part of this whole thing.
>> Yeah, they really were. They were so good.
>> Well, that's why I can't believe they didn't have a for Carl in the very beginning or something like that. You know what I mean? Like that felt like a missed opportunity there. And if it's buried at the end, shame on them. Um >> yeah, I didn't didn't hear, you know, think of that until you brought it up the other day.
Yeah. I mean, just a simple in the beginning, you know, for all anything starts just like they did with Ninja Turtles 2 for Jim Henson, >> you know, just a quick thing, you know.
>> Yeah. Because he literally directed one of the best Mando episodes as well called The Siege, uh, that I was like, whoa, this is so cinematic. And it also, you know, at, you know, cuz that episode was about him, Caradoon, and Mando taking down this one secret uh Empire base on Navaro, like one of the last ones.
>> That was the Weather's directed one, you mean? Right.
>> Yeah. Yeah. He was directed, too, I think.
>> And I'm just like, man, I would have loved it if we had this in there. Um, so that that was that you could say that was like a weak point in in the film.
>> I think psychologically you could have got more people on your side if you had done that, too.
You know what I mean? Because I think that would have reminded folks in the audience that, hey, we did like this series at one time.
>> Well, >> I hate to say that.
>> Yeah, but playing it safe, I'm with you, but playing it safe would mean like we can have Gina in this one.
>> No, no, no. I'm not talking about Gina.
I'm talking about opening the movie with just a a quick thing for Carl. That's all it has to say is on the screen for Carl. Everybody will know. And then that that moment, you got everybody basically on your side at that very moment. From there on out, you're you're good to go.
See, that's where I think the mistake is here because I I don't like I I feel like yes, the movie needs to be defended a little bit, but at the same time, I totally understand where everybody's coming from, >> right?
>> I get it, too.
>> You've been abused so many times by this person just like I mean, the person as an entity of Lucasfilm, it's like you're regardless of who they are or who they're being run by now, you're you're still like flinching at every move they make because you're not sure what's going to hit you next, right? You're like basically like Joe Jackson going you're like Michael Jackson after Joe Jackson's had his day with you at this point when it comes to Star Wars and you don't want no more of that. But at the end of the day, I think that would have helped with some goodwill. It felt like it was a very missed opportunity. I mean, I I'm glad that the movie isn't like reliant on a bunch of cameo porn and all this kind of [ __ ] even from the show. That part is good, but I still feel like that was just a missed opportunity. That's all. And I think it would have helped people maybe they would have calmed down a little bit in the first few minutes. Maybe because the anger it feels like is festering with people with this movie cuz I have a feeling it's going to drop horribly.
We'll see. We'll see. Um that's impossible to say because the people who are going how frontloaded is it? Because yeah loads of people are very very angry. But is it the majority that are so angry that they are going to take uh take it out?
>> Speaking of angry, Action Com says, "Whatever happened to [ __ ] them if they can't take a joke?" That's right.
>> Yep. Yeah, we'll be talking about that today.
>> There you go. Miguel Far says, "The Dracula gets the town criminals, then they run out of them." That idea reminds me of Larry Nven the Jigsaw Man story.
I've never heard of that one.
Interesting.
Yeah, it almost sounds like that would have been one of the 70s Dracula movies they would have done. Uh, then we got Thano Thano to Felicitius. How do you say this? Than I know how to say it.
Thanotus Felicitus, right?
>> Uh, Thanoos felicitus.
>> Close enough for me. Something something something. Darth Darth Vader. Uh, Pack and Proton says, "Paul's impression earlier sounded more like Lauren Crank than an act than the actress. Did a little clerk crangy there."
Yeah, I it's okay. My Carol Channing is is very rusty. Sher.
Uh, and then Dark King says, "It's it's three episodes of Mando." Okay, but season one, two, three, three episodes of Mando could could be good or terrible depending on which Mando you're talking about. True. But I think this is where I'm kind of confused cuz like all the things that Paul says he wants are in this movie, but I think he might point out that it would have been better in a show cuz like >> sure I mean something something smaller.
I I I hated the show when suddenly there was, you know, the the Mando Mickey Mouse Club.
>> Yeah, at least that's not a problem here.
>> Pardon me.
>> I said at least that's not a problem here. Sorry, >> I I I just hated that. What? I I It was so neat when it was a very small one or two or three people out there spread across the universe and and not this secret society of of cosplayers. It was just so embarrassing, you know. Oh, you got the fat Mando, the skinny Mando, the young kid almost a Mando. I mean, dear Lord, who came up with that? It was terrible. It's family feud Mando.
>> Yeah, >> the illegal Mando.
>> Detailed devil. Detailed devil says uh for $4.99. M&G failed >> legal alien >> as Disney IP but for strategic partnership i.e. sale was proof of life.
98 million for TV to movie but okay but week at parks, box office merch, streaming will flag.
Um, I think that he means I think he's getting at we'll see how it goes with these other ancillary things is what he's getting at if I'm not mistaken.
>> I I I think Toy Story 5 will do better.
>> You think so?
>> Yeah.
>> I'm not so sure on that. We'll see.
>> The the the um trailers don't look terribly unto Toy Storyish. I don't think we need it, but I mean that's another thing.
>> Yeah, that's the thing.
But with that, >> I guess we're we're done.
>> We're done. All right.
So, He-Man, we meet for the first time for the last time.
>> I'm just a boy. I see that. You need some growing. Actually, I don't sound anything like this. Excuse me.
What?
>> I didn't understand a word. Did you Did you understand a word he said? I didn't understand. Oh, wait. I'm British, too, by the way. Did you understand a word that he said? I didn't understand a single word he said. Did you? I didn't either. By the way, Mr. Leto, can I have your autograph? I'm not actually in the costume, by the way.
That's all I got. This movie is going to suck.
I was just waiting for you to knife him in the nuts.
>> No, we're not going to get any cuck cool like that. He's not a robot. So, yeah, >> knife him in the nads.
>> Okay, I did a little homework.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I was Well, that was going to be my original ending was going to be >> I love you, He-Man. I love you too, Skeletor.
>> Whoa, that could happen.
>> That's what they want.
>> That meant That meant he could have made an appearance.
>> Oh, yeah.
I love you, He-Man.
We knew you were gay.
>> Did you pay for that part?
>> I'm not. Hello, Frisco. Did you Did you actually pay for a Pedro?
>> No, somebody made that for him, actually.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, >> I don't think they actually made one of those.
>> I did. So what, Cho? What up?
>> So what?
>> Yeah. You You just You You just suck the dick and nerd or what? I can't believe I wasted 20 bucks on these figures.
>> No.
>> Yes.
>> I mean, I got my >> But uh >> I got my leaving. So do I.
>> I I do have these.
>> Okay. Well, they we were just We got to go.
>> Yeah, we got to go. I I did do some quick research and apparently in the movie Mando, >> there is a Weather's Apollo uh signage on top of a door >> that they paid tribute to him. He's actually So Weather's Apollo is in the movie.
>> Um >> it's just Creed.
>> It's just not in English.
>> You know, I got to say about these toys though.
>> Yeah.
>> They're actually pretty good quality.
They look good.
>> They're small, but they've actually got a lot of points of articulation in there.
>> Pretty well >> realized. I gotta give Mattel credit on this. They look pretty good.
>> He-Man, not so much a Skeletor, but he kind of looks like he's got a big head.
Like a very big head.
>> He looks like a >> I got this I got this at a sw at a vintage popup >> for 10 bucks the other day.
>> Oh, there you go.
>> Nice.
>> Beautiful. But I will give Mattel credit that the the figures do look pretty good.
>> I don't know why he has a gun though. He never needed a gun.
>> No, I never. Yeah, >> it's like when they give Superman a motorcycle.
>> What the [ __ ] does Superman need a motorcycle for?
>> Well, every character needed their equivalent of the, you know, Batmobile and the, you know, and the helicopter and Oh, look at that. Or even worse, the super super plane. What?
>> You know what? We're We're really testing Andre's patience here.
>> We are. So, let's get rolling.
>> What do you got going on, Paul? You're going to be on Paulie's later.
>> Me?
>> Or who's what you got going on later, Paulie?
>> Uh, Popcast Brothers in like 20.
>> Oh, that's right. Podcast. That's what it was. Sorry.
>> There will be hopefully an appalling news out today. So, >> I was having an LSD LSD flashback last week again. So, >> yeah.
Um, so all right, sounds good there. And Paul, you got a show coming up later with the podcast guys. And then what time does that start >> in 23 minutes?
>> There you go, kids. Andre, anything else besides the video we dropped this morning?
>> Uh, yeah. No, we dropped uh dropped a video this morning. Be sure to check that out. uh because um >> uh yeah, as usual, this platform is not big on uh on sending out notifications uh which sucks, but it is what it is.
And uh yeah, be stay tuned for more videos. We probably have a video for tomorrow. Not 100% sure yet, but should have a video for tomorrow. Okay. And uh with that, yeah, check out the channel of all of the hosts. Links for that are in the description. Check out Paulie at the Latinos Lant. And with that, let us bring out the koalas in the rain.
>> Koalas in the rain. Koalas in the rain.
No [ __ ] given. Koala. Koala. Koalas in the rain. Koalas in the rain. No [ __ ] given. Koala. Ku. Koalas in the rain.
Koalas in the rain. No faq.
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