For motorcycle maintenance, dealerships are ideal for routine services like tire rotations and brake work due to their parts inventory and technician expertise, but independent shops are better for complex diagnostics and repairs because they invest more time in accurate diagnosis, avoid unnecessary part replacements, and provide comprehensive bike inspections; the choice depends on bike age, issue complexity, and whether the problem requires specialized knowledge or extensive diagnostic time.
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ARE DEALERSHIPS A SCAM?! DUCATI 848 EVO CORSE LEAKING OIL..Ajouté :
Welcome to Classic Superbikes, guys. And this week, we have a customer who brought in a gorgeous 848 Evo Corsa Edition. Uh-oh, it's leaking oil. Oh no. Oh no.
What could it be? Well, we're going to find out. So, stay tuned and enjoy a deep dive on is it going to be about gaskets?
We're going to be talking about gaskets the whole time.
We are going to be talking about gaskets, aren't we?
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I think it might have better brakes. Um, I don't know. I should probably read about this a little bit more, but it's a it's a track focused version of the uh 848 Evo. And the 848 Evo was a facelifted, not really facelifted, but just updated version of the 848. They look identical. Um, the Evo is just the the newer kind of final edition of it.
So, this is a really cool bike. This is an amazing amazing track bike. um it's here because it's leaking oil and it's our job to figure that out and we'll get into that this week. But for today's video, I kind of just wanted to talk about should you bring your bike to a dealership? Should you bring it to an independent mechanic? When should you bring it to an independent mechanic versus a dealership? um and kind of just get into that because uh there's pros and cons to both and there's some things that make more sense to do at a dealer and there's some things that make more sense to do with uh an independent shop.
Now, I'll also go through kind of how you can try and see if maybe you could figure out how you can find a good independent shop. So, to start off with, when is it a good time to go to the dealer? uh any kind of routine maintenance work, tire rotations, brakes, uh any of that stuff, they'll do a fantastic job of it.
They'll typically with Ducatti as well, most of the Ducatti technicians that work at those dealerships are like super, you know, they're they're really good at what they do and they're really good at diagnosing issues because they've obviously got a lot of experience. The problem, and this is the downside to dealerships, is even though these technicians have all this experience, all this knowledge, all this talent, they can't always afford the time to work on these diagnosises depending on how complex they are. So, what happens is the bikes either have to sit for a really long time, um, or even worse, a lot of the dealerships models, I'm not naming any, you know, I don't know. And don't take this for what it's worth. Most dealerships are fantastic.
But of course, there's bad apples out there. But for the most part, modern-day dealership technicians are trained in most instances to instead of diagnose something to just go ahead and replace it, you know, when they're going through a typical diagnosis procedure. I can't say that's necessarily true for a marquee like Ducati because I think that they just have a lot less technicians there. They're a lot more specialized.
But rest assured, if you got like a random misfire or something, you know, little bit weird where it could be a bunch of different things, it needs some time to to be kind of combed through, especially if it's a little bit of an older bike or it's got a little bit more miles on it. Um, they don't necessarily they're not they don't like really doing those as much. You know, it it costs them money. Um, [ __ ] it costs me money. But the upside is that they have a lot of parts in stock, you know, uh or they should if when it comes to these Desmos services, you might pay a little bit more, but like they got all the shims in stock. So when they got to order them if they need to make an adjustment, they got it right there and they just, you know, pop it in versus having to wait a week or two for it to come in, check it, make sure if it's the wrong one, whatever. Um, so that's the one nice benefit of when you go to a dealership, they got parts in stock. they can get you turned around quick. Usually the downsides are they don't they're not diagnosis or troubleshooting focused.
They are focused to get customers in and out and to service the community. You know, they they got a lot of bikes to fix. They're they're really not trying to get hung up too much on the complicated ones. They'll take them in, they'll look through them on their own time, you know, like after when they get time basically. It might take them a long time to go through the diagnosis.
And they're doing that to save you money because if they actually had to do the time and bill you, you could pay for it, but they'll they'll bill you some fat rates for doing the diagnosises on some of these bikes. Um, so that's the downside. They might just recommend replacing some parts.
Now, the upside of going to like an independent shop, for example, like like me, is I don't want to waste your money.
So, I spent a lot more time diagnosing these bikes and identifying with almost I mean like 99.999% certainty almost in most cases exactly what parts are either need to be replaced to repair the issue or need to be replaced in order to continue down the diagnosis path um if if it's absolutely necessary. But either way, we identify faulty parts, you know, not just, well, it's got a misfire, so let's throw some new plugs in it. If your spark plugs are okay, I can test them. I can put them on a load tester. I can test them under atmospheric pressure under combustion conditions, not just regular old, are they firing?
I can confirm that and we don't have to waste money on some spark plugs. If the spark plugs are good, we can move on to the next branch of that diagnosis tree.
See what I'm saying? And sometimes the spark plugs, like for the multistrata over there, they were like $80 for, you know, like almost $20 a pop. I mean, for these Aridium ones, they're very expensive spark plugs. So, you can't just always be throwing everything at a bike. Now, that being said, a lot of bikes, you know, this one probably included, need their maintenance to be caught up. And a lot of times it's hard to really diagnose a bike properly if the maintenance isn't up to date. But I like to do maintenance at the end. So what I like to do first is I like to diagnose a bike, figure out what's wrong with it, get the parts ordered, fix that issue, and then once once we're done, as long as there wasn't any maintenance related items that we had to do to get there, like sometimes if I'm dropping a a a gasket or a pan or something, I I'm draining fluid. So we're just going to replace them while we're there. But once I'm done diagnosing it for the most part, that's when I recommend, hey, okay, now that it's fixed, here's some things that before you just enjoy this thing out on the road, some safety concerns I have. Let's address those. We could do them if you want or not. It doesn't really matter. But the the point I have is that I make sure that I'm not wasting your money randomly, you know, for throwing parts at it that that don't work, that don't need to be replaced. So that's what you get when you come to an independent shop. As the upside, we're gonna say I'm, you know, it's it's convenient. I I'm not going to, you know, I'm going to give you an actual real full bill of health on your bike. A lot of these dealerships, I mean, they don't even want to buy. They're just they know that you're probably not interested in replacing the brake pads, so they're not even going to really check them, you know? They're not going to check any of these other they they really aren't going to give you a full rundown of the condition of your bike. I'm going to because I think it's important to know this stuff. It's it's, you know, as someone that used to hate doing standard maintenance and poo pooed it all the time and bought the cheapest parts and whatever, I have seen my quality of life improve owning these vehicles by doing these recommended maintenance items. It like I'm telling you, I I live a better stress-free life because of it. And I just want that for you guys. So, when I'm doing these uh bikes, I I want you to be able to put 5,000 miles on it worry-f free, not okay, it's fixed, and then, you know, h it's having some issues and and whatever. Like, just get it done, have it ready, and be able to enjoy it. And I'll do it all in one go.
I like to kind of wrap these bikes up, spend a little bit more time with them.
The downside to that is I don't not a dealership. I don't have those parts in stock all the time. And most of the dealership, just to clarify, your dealership doesn't always have those parts in stock either. They only have the parts in stock if it's a maintenance item. You know, if it's like a fork seal or like brake pads or you know, an oil change type deal or um you know, the the valve guide shims, they'll have that type of stuff in stock. But when it goes to like a connector on something or whatever is out or a coil or this or the other TPS sensor, they don't keep those in stock.
Not always. Sometimes they do, but not always, right? So, because of that, they're going to have to order it anyway. And then at that point, it's the same game. I mean, I lose money cuz I'm charging you. I'm buying them from the dealer the parts and I don't get a discount. the dealer's making money on the parts when they sell them to you because they're marking them up and they get it at their invoice. But it's I, you know, that's how I want to fix these things. I want to put the right parts on. It's important. It they last longer.
It makes for a more solid diagnosis. I lose a little bit of money, but at the same time, you get a much better part.
And again, I'm not a dealership, so unfortunately, I can't get the discounts on those parts, but I want to be using those parts. So, I guess this whole thing is to just say, let's say your bike is having a weird issue that doesn't come up all the time.
It kind of happens some of the time.
It's like hard to to really pinpoint. Uh or you've had it at another shop or you've already had it at the dealership and they've already fixed something once and it hasn't been fixed. That's when it's usually a good idea to start seeking out uh an independent shop.
Quite frankly, it's probably a good idea to seek out an independent shop, you know, right from the get-go for any kind of like complicated issue aside from maintenance. I I personally my personal recommendation is do all your maintenance at the dealership. Do your checkups at the dealership. Um but any kind of like significant problems, if you if you have any kind of major concerning issues, you want to take it to a good quality independent. There's not always options. Like there isn't any I think I'm the only guy. There's some sport bike uh repair shops around here that uh offer a Ducatti that they you know repair Ducatis and I'm sure they do a great job. Um but I focus heavily on Ducatis and they're very different the design architecture from any other bike.
I mean I ride them, I love them, I race them, I fix them. I'm passionate about Ducati. So, I'm very obsessed with them.
And there's little quirks about them that if you're used to the Japanese sport bikes typically or the other international sport bikes, you're going to miss some things. It's a very different engine architecture. And like I said, it helps to have someone that focuses just on that. It it it goes it goes a long way. And there really isn't a lot of people out there for some of these specialty bikes, especially the really foreign, really exotic stuff like this. Um, but there's me. I'm out here.
So, if you do need help, you've been struggling, you know, you want someone to do a really good job, take really good care of your prized possession, and put the same passion into it that you have for riding it into fixing it. Um, you know, give me a call. It's that's where I stepped in. That's where I shine the most. So, on this bike, we're going to be it's leaking oil, and I have a suspicion that it's leaking oil out of the uh drain bolt because there's no crush washer on it, and I found some RTV on it. So, more than likely, this might just need an oil change and a crush washer and should be good to go. But he hasn't started it in he hasn't started it in probably I think he started it before he brought it over here but before that hadn't been started in a year. So I want to just kind of gently gradually he said there might not be enough oil in there. So we got to check the oil levels. Check everything out. Do all the dry checks on and static checks on this bike. Make sure everything's good. Turn it over.
See if it turns over.
Um, and then we will we'll fire it up because I think it leaks after it's running. Um, and then wait, see if it's leaking out. See if we can confirm that and then uh go from there. Hopefully it doesn't turn into anything worse than that. I'm hoping this one's just a simple repair. As much as I would enjoy having this thing as a piece of eye candy to just look at for weeks and weeks and weeks as I did enjoy with the West [ __ ] um I'd love to also get get it back to him very quickly. So, next week we're going to dive into this thing, see what's going on. Um this week I I just didn't want to leave you guys without something, so I figured I'd talk a little bit about, you know, how I would approach doing these kinds of repairs. And if you're watching this and you're wondering what it's like searching for auto repair shops, it's very much more so that the dealers are really, really bad. You know, I I'm speaking on behalf of Ducati being a high quality, usually very good at doing the repairs. Um, you know, my Ducati owner group there. I just honestly this whole conversation was sparked because there was a lot of posts I was seeing in the past month complaining about the dealership and I've had my own frustrations with servicing my own Ducati at the dealerships around here.
Um, but you know, that's sort of the downsides of just the dealership in general. You can't really blame it on them. They've never done I mean, you know, there's some complaints of them doing parts replacement and stuff in my groups that I get from different dealers across the the way or whatever, but I've had an a decent experience. I mean, there there's some things that I'm not happy about, but at the same time, they're busy. They got to do what they got to do. You know what I mean? Um, but that's not going to happen with me. You know, this is a different type of experience. It's more concierge. It's more, you know, let's really like make sure that we get your bike the way that you want it and come up with a plan together and be really involved in keeping it on the road. Whether you want to keep it for 2 years, we have a plan for that. Whether you want to just ride it this summer and sell it, we'll come up with a plan for that. Or if you want to keep it longterm, we'll have a plan for that. It's that's how we approach everything. We tailor it to you and your ownership experience.
But that being said, if it's not like high-end, some of these lower mares, there's some bad stories. And as far as cars go, it's really bad. I mean, it again, the policy really is, oh, is this the issue? The technician might want to actually diagnose. They might want to put the multimeter on it. They might want to put a PicoScope on it. They might want to put a compression tester on it. They might want to like do these tests or whatever, but the the manual will just say, "Replace this module."
and they have to do it. they like especially if it's warranty work and they just kind of get in the habit of doing this and then you know in fields where it's you got less talent spread out you end up with a lot technicians that just don't learn how to really properly diagnose something and they really don't even fully understand the the the basics of combustion you know it's I mean they do but you know it's um they they lack the the logic tree to go out and diagnose something efficiently or how to test things and identify parts that are failing rather than just replacing them and seeing if it changed the the system. You know what I mean?
Like for example, if your spark plug is bad, you could swap the spark plug over with another side and see if if that problem's only on one cylinder and then you'd know for sure if it's on that one cylinder. Or you could actually just test that spark plug. And I'm not advocating that one of those is better than the other. There's certain situations where it all makes sense. But as an example, that's what I'm trying to kind of hone in on here is that's where dealerships, again, I'm not really throwing shade on them, but I just they have a tendency to lean more that way.
The fact of the matter is they got these big buildings with these big overheads and all this equipment, and it's very expensive every day. Keeping the lights on costs money, and they need to turn these bikes over to pay those bills.
Sometimes even when your best intentions are there, if you're motiv or if you're incentivized to get these things out by keep needing to keep the lights on that way, you might make some morally compromising choices from time to time.
you know, not nothing terrible, but you might there, you know, the attention to detail might not be there versus when your name's on the door and you you're passionate about it. Um, it's a different level of care. It's a different level of service. So, and and I focus on just this. I mean, I just I just want to perform good repairs um on any any issues that that come along on these bikes. I'm not trying to build engines. I'm not trying to do crazy, you know, restorations, although we're probably going to do some of these things along the way throughout the course of just doing this channel and running this this shop. But, uh, the focus I'm trying to just, hey, any, you know, you got a bike, it's got a problem, people can't figure it out.
That's kind of where I want to step in.
Um, but I really want to focus also on on Ducati very heavily. I just I have a huge passion for these bikes and there's nobody out here doing them, you know, independently like I am. So, certainly not the new ones. There's so much computer and tech on anything, you know, 2018 and up or whatever that I'm not going to really be able to work on something like that realistically, but you know, 10 years old at least or older, all those bikes, the dealerships hate working on them. I'm happy to do it, you know. So, if you think about it that way, if you don't want to offend your local dealership and you got an older monster, an SD2, ST4, you know, anything early Ducatti wise, and the dealer's just not a fan of dealing with it, higher mileage, maybe bring it here. I'm happy to take a look at that. I'm happy to look into them. Is it heavily customized? I'm happy. I'm not a fan. I'm not It's not ideal. Just to clarify, I don't really want to be dealing with those kinds of bikes. But if I don't do it, I don't think there's anyone else out here that's going to really do it. So, if you got a bike like that and you're in that kind of situation, email me at classicicsubikesaol.com.
I'll be happy to get you in for some service. We got some really cool bikes coming up. We got some really cool stuff that's going to be happening. So, I'm excited to share kind of everything that's going on next few weeks. Uh we also got the Gold Wing next week as well. So, this is going to be a quick like one day thing. And then I'll also do the the Gold Wing the same week. So I'm going to probably do like a two episode week. I'm not going to release all those episodes at the same time. But anyway, sorry for the more boring episode, but there is an exciting bike and I think it's a nice change of pace from last week's hour and 20 minute carburetor deep dive. Um, but thanks for watching guys. Um, I appreciate it. It's it's nice to to think that you guys out there enjoy watching this stuff as much as I enjoy doing it. So, it's it's really fun, especially knowing that you guys enjoy kind of seeing me go through this stuff. It it absolutely makes it more enjoyable, I think. So, thank you for watching and uh I'll see you next week when we figure out exactly what's going on with this thing. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I figured that was such a nothing burger episode that I had to give you guys something. So, uh, real quick, got these ready for bikes and bagels in Bington, uh, at the BMW dealership tomorrow. So, that'll be fun.
Was really hoping to bring the Multistrata. Didn't have time. Let's talk about this oil leak. Oh my god. I don't know if you remember at the beginning of the video, it was a lot smaller. Well, I have uh some thoughts here. First of all, this is the uh it's like a drain.
You see that? It's like a drain plug at the bottom of these fairings cuz what can happen is when you get an oil leak, it can kind of pull up in the bottom here.
Now, I have some thoughts. Uh, this was not leaking when it was leaned over like on its side stand. As soon as it became upright like uh here or when you put it upright to move it around, I noticed uh that there was some oil leaks. And as soon as so when he first when the customer first brought it, which I'm going to have to call him the the next episode is probably going to start with that phone call and then we'll go into diagnosing the oil leak. And I also want to point out just on the tail end of this dealership versus independent shop discussion, diagnosing this is going to look something like this. I got to take all the panels off this bike. I got to clean everything up and then I got to see if it's going to leak. So, it's just got to sit here for like an hour. And then if it's not leaking, then I have to go through all the procedures of starting it up. And then once I can get it started up, because again, I know I think he started it. I just want to confirm, but if he hasn't started it in a really long time, you want to turn the engine over, just get some oil and lubrication in there before you just raw start it the first time. Uh do those dry checks and everything. But, uh, start it, run it, see what happens. See if it leaks. And if it does, well, that's, you know, it's going to sit for another hour or two or whatever. What I'm trying to say is a diagnosis like this requires a bike to sit possibly on a lift or uh it's, you know, if you have center stands or whatever. Uh but it's got to sit. It's got to sit for a long time, you know, day, 2 days as you go through and diagnose to try and see where this oil leak is coming from. And that takes up space on your lift. I mean, that's valuable. You could be making money servicing other bikes. That's how dealerships look at it. So, uh, a type of problem like this, they're not really big fans of doing this kind of stuff.
They'll do it, don't get me wrong.
They'll probably do it, but it's not their like most favorite thing in the world to do. So, there's one more thing that I wanted to do. Uh, and that was I had some screenshots from some of the issues that the dealerships uh in some of my groups were talking about. So, I was going to just kind of go through those real quick one by one. I'll just kind of read it. Uh, basically, this guy was asking about uh changing the MAP sensors on his V4S.
Uh, and it was uh due to the V4S's when you're putting exhaust on them or just in general, they run kind of lean as all bikes do. So, uh, there's upgrades to the fuel maps that kind of help uh, make these things run a little bit better. And he put in a post, hey, uh, does anyone have any recommendations or any experience doing this yourself?
Because uh if I take it to my local I don't want to take it to my local Ducati dealer.
They have a reputation for damaging fairings and paint in general. Then they admit they damage them but refuse to pay or fix them. So I just want to replace them myself. This guy's heard some bad stories. Again, this is not by me. I I don't want to put my Ducati dealers here in the Chicagoland area under the bus.
They're great. Uh I mean, they're not perfect. No dealership is perfect, but I don't I would never go out and say that I think that they're going to damage your bike. They do a great job of taking care of your bikes for sure. But this is just an example of a Ducati dealer out by him that's it's probably a smaller area. It's very overworked cuz they're servicing a large zip code and they've kind of developed this reputation for uh shoddy work, I guess. Uh not putting the care and effort. But again, this is comes back to the way they're paying them mechanics, the rates, the labor rates, the way that uh it's kind of a commission type system. So, they're incentivized to just do things quickly and get them done. Otherwise, they can't earn a living. It's not even about being a 100,000 quid bazillionaire. It's just about they're just trying to put food on the table and they can't even afford to do it. Uh unless they're cutting corners, which is just terrible. But the next one here is this is pretty crazy.
Okay, so we talk about should you bring your bike to a dealer or should you uh have an independent do it. This was a recall on another V4S 2025. It's a brand new bike. Recall on the rear brake line.
So there's something going on with the rear brake lines on these. I'm not privy to that recall. Again, if your bike's not if your bike's newer than like 2018, 2019, 2020, I'm probably not even going to be working on it. It just won't make sense. But, uh, I just don't have the computers. Um, but, you know, the, uh, caliper had to be removed to replace this brake line that I would assume leaks or something. And they didn't torque the brake down like the caliper.
And his brake fell off, like fell off and dented his wheel. And I mean, you know, again, your brakes falling off is a huge safety cons. I mean, I I'm don't I don't get I we can't just pass over that like, oh, no big deal. This [ __ ] brakes fall. That's crazy. Okay. And again, I I don't I'm not going to put this dealer under the like this is not out by us. I I don't know. This is somewhere in the country. This is different from that other dealer. But all these posts happened this week, which is why I had the idea for this video. And the thing is, uh, that's something you have to take it to the dealer for. I can't do a recall. I don't I'm not the the a recall is free.
It doesn't cost you anything. It's on the dealership's dime. So, you have to bring it into a dealer. And this is the kind of stuff where it's like, oh my god, you have to bring it in. And the thing about recall work is that they pay less than normal warranty work. So, you can tell the reason that this happened is because somebody was rushing through because they don't get the proper paycheck because it's a recall job, not a warranty job. And even the warranty jobs pay less than what the normal book time is. So, this is an example of you bring your bike to a dealership for something that's a rush job. If you have concerns about that type of stuff, I again, I don't advertise maintenance services. I don't really do oil changes.
I don't really do brakes or tires and stuff, but you'll see me doing those maintenance things in the videos as they're needed, as the bikes come through here if the owners want them to be done. But if you reach out to me, cuz I do it on special requests, you know, I just feel like there's a million places you could get your oil changed and could do all this stuff. I'm never going to make enough money for it to make sense.
Uh, and but I take a lot of time and care. Um, I won't charge you more than what the dealership charges, but if you have a lot of concerns about your local shop or dealership, not doing something simple like an oil change or a brake flush, and you really want someone to really do it right, okay? Cuz, you know, I'm not going to just rush through it. I I spend the time. I torque the stuff down. I use the proper lubricants, use the proper gaskets. If you want that service, you can call me. I I will make a special effort uh to do maintenance when when you let me know that that's a a major concern of yours, okay? Cuz again, you see me, I film a lot of the stuff that I do and I'm very very transparent. So, you really know that it got done right, you know? But this is an example of again, it's you had to go to the dealership and when they're forced to rush, when they're not making a lot of money, this is what happens. Corners get cut. So, that's a really scary one.
And again, these are brand new [ __ ] bikes, you know, which is just crazy to me. Okay, just [ __ ] crazy to me. And then the last one we had, this is an example of it not being the dealer's fault. There's so many mosquitoes. Jesus Christ, dude. Jesus.
Uh, okay. So, this is for a Desmos service.
So this is another [ __ ] This is a Desmos service, which means you go in and you check and adjust the valves.
It's a very important service on a Ducatti. If you don't do it on a Ducati, you will blow your engine, basically.
and he was complaining that he brought it into a dealer for a Desmos service and the bike was there for a long time, like over a month or two, because when they do the Desmos service, they're checking the clearances in the valves.
And uh if they're wrong, they have to replace these things called these shims.
And the thing is, there's not an exact replacement. You have to do a measurement between the current clearance and what it's supposed to be and then do the math and find out the specific shim that you have to order.
And it gets worse. Sometimes there's only shims in full sizes and you need like a half size and they either do or don't sell something like that. So you have to either order one size up and one size down and see which one is the best to split the difference or uh you order the correct size and the incorrect size can come in possibly. The way to avoid this is you order a full shim kit, which basically just includes every single shim in all the major sizes that you would ever need for a certain bike. The problem is every bike that Ducati makes for the most part, all their engines, they all have different shims. The years all have different shims. So, you basically end up, if you want to be a dealership, you want to have every single shim in stock, it's around $20,000 worth of inventory, guys. I'm not going to have $20,000 worth of inventory. I'm not even going to have a bug zapper to get all these mosquitoes out of here.
Okay? So, if you're having me do a valve job on your bike, I'm going to have to order those shims one by one. And they do sometimes. It might say a part number. This is the correct measurement of the shim. And then the shim comes in and it's a completely different size even if it has the right part number or whatever. It happens all the time. It could happen to me. So his complaint is basically that they had it uh for a long time. They ordered the shims. Shims came in and were the wrong shims. I think they ordered shims again. They were the wrong ones or something along those lines. And his argument was that this is unacceptable because they're a dealership and they should have these things in stock. And I agree. Okay, if you're a dealership, you should have the shims in stock for a valve adjustment on a Ducatai. It's like the most common major service that you would do on a Ducati. It's ridiculous to think that you don't have those in stock. Now, when you come to me, I don't have them in stock. I got to order them just like that dealer would. But if you're going to go to a dealer and they're going to order the shims anyway because you probably have an older bike or less common cuz again, they'll have them in stock for the new bikes, which is kind of also where I'm going with all this.
If your bike is really new and it's under warranty or it's just out of warranty or whatever, your dealership is probably still the best place to ser service it 5 years old or newer, your dealership's probably the best bet as long as they don't have any glaring negative reviews, right? But if it's older than 5 years, sometimes they stop stocking some of these parts. Sometimes it's not quite as simple as just going in and getting it the same day. And if they start having to order parts and then they're doing their part replacement [ __ ] and not diagnosing it properly, it stops making sense and it starts making more sense to just go to an independent mechanic. So anyway, I just wanted to walk you through those cuz I sort of left this video and we didn't really do much yet. But next video, we're going to take these covers off. We're going to call the customer, confirm how long it's been since this thing's ran, whether the oil leak, because from what I understand, he was telling me was it was leaking oil after it runs. Once it cools down, then it leaks oil, which would make sense.
Something's getting hot, it's expanding, and then it's, you know, as it cools down. Uh, but anyway, it hasn't leaked. When I had it, you know, over there, it wasn't leaking except for the first time when we brought it in, um, when they were moving it. Obviously, it was standing upright and then once it was leaned over, it stopped leaking. And I was thinking if the drain plugs on the bottom and it's like kind of a dry sump almost, when it's leaned over, it's not, you know, the level is maybe not leaking as much cuz it's uh that bolts on an angle or or whatever. Um, but holy, there's so many mosquitoes.
Um, so what happened was it did stop leaking after it was on the side stand for a couple weeks here while I was waiting to finish all the other bikes. And then once I moved it, as soon as I put on the lift, you could see how big. I mean, this is this is way bigger than it was at the beginning of the video. It's way bigger than it was earlier this morning.
And um, it seems like it's getting bigger. But as I mentioned, that's the drain for the belly pan. So this oil could have been just sitting there for a long long time that it's just been leaking leaking and then it was pulled up and when it's on the side stand this drain is in the center so it' be leaned over. So it would be kind of not leaking cuz it would be sealed up in the bottom here and then as soon as you straighten it out it's le it starts leaking out of the drain plug cuz all that oil's just been sitting sitting sitting. So, that's what we got to find out is is this oil fresh oil that's just been leaking from it being stood upright and it's currently leaking right now or is this old oil that was leaking from it running from when it gets hot and things expand and then once it was shut off, this is just the leftover oil that was pulled up in there that didn't uh didn't have a chance to leak out. And the reason this is so important is because I thought that it was the drain plug that was leaking, which is uh right here.
It's hard to to see it, but it's that silver thing right right there in this.
See how there's this big hole?
So, my concern is if it's leaking out of here, how did the oil get into up there? If the drain plug is back here, it's probably not leaking out of that drain plug. even though I did find some leaks right from where the drain plug was. So, that's why this could be a little bit more of a nightmare than just a straightforward leaking out of the the oil drain plug, which is kind of what I was hoping.
But either way, we'll get into this next week. Thanks for watching, guys. Have a great rest of your week. Take care.
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