St. Thomas Aquinas teaches that human persons cannot satisfy the debt of sin on their own because 'that which is not assumed is not saved' (St. Gregory of Nazianzus), meaning God had to assume human nature in order to save it. This is illustrated through the analogy of fire being united to steel: just as the steel becomes hot through union with fire while retaining its own nature, Christ's humanity can heal humanity while remaining truly divine.
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What is a truth theory?
Like a philosophy? I'm so confused.
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Like if if I'm thinking about what you mean, like truth theories are just going to be like how something's true. Like me and Don gfing it out. We're not ging it out, bro. Yo, RC is so correct. Thank you, bro.
If I'm understanding what you're saying correctly, that is dude. I love Israel.
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They're going to put you in a Shia edit with laser eyes and the sheed. Yo, if this happens, like I don't know what we're going to do here. Wait, I do have something to show you guys. Uh, let me bring this over. Um, in memes.
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Dylan aura. Oh my gosh, that's so fire.
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I got my live restricted on Tik Tok, so I can't do that. We need to make more Dylan edits. Yeah, we do though. No, I'm just kidding. Make edits of like people more worth their time. Like St. Thomas, I don't need them, bro.
I appreciate it though.
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Yeah. No, it's the reason why I don't go live on TikTok if he didn't tell you was because I got like age restricted for like refuting a bunch of Muslims and other stuff. And I was like, I don't know why actually I got banned. It actually was very confusing. I'm trying to get live access restored though, thankfully.
Yeah, [snorts] bro. I joined a panel, completely refuted them, and then left.
Started my own life. Like 30 minutes later, I got banned. I don't know what Tik Tok's problem is.
Do you like the Diamond Brothers? Not [snorts] really. They're definitely smart people, but they hold some really ridiculous positions. They follow the teacher or they follow the teachings of father Leonard Feny and Feny denies baptism with desire which is frankly uh taught by like all the theologians.
Actually I'm I'll be right back. I'm going to get to my copy.
So guys, I'm back. Um, the reason why I do not like the diamonds, [snorts] the main reason at least, is because we have two main witnesses to the baptism of desire. First of all, St. Thomas too fast. Am I like talking too fast?
What do you mean?
But know the main reason why I would deny the fiite teaching and I actually believe it is heresy. St. Thomas and Naters Par.
Um, yo, you're telling me I need to Oh my gosh, bro. I'm just getting it up on my Chromebook. I grabbed the wrong volume or not my Chromebook, my computer.
Uh, in the Sumatlo Ta question, I think it's question 66.
Uh, is it here?
No, not here. I think it's in is plain water required.
This isn't it. No, but he definitely teaches baptism of desire. St. Thomas teaches it. All the theologians teach it. Uh St. Hanju Deleori teaches it. Do I like reading online or physical? I prefer physical. And I actually have two copies coming in soon. I've got uh volume two and four of coming in. Uh, it's very excellent. I have some of them in PDF format. I just prefer the physical copy as I have previously stated.
And I quite I quite I quite I have quite a lot of physicals over in my corner over here. Um, if you guys want, I can like tell you what books I have. Not going to get them all out. Maybe I'll do a video showing all the books, but I have like 40 of them, so it's like a lot.
Do your parents agree with you on your more traditionalist views? Um, not really. There are noites, but my father does take me to traditional Latin mass, which I very much love. It's very great. Why does Dylan mo yo is this true bomb?
But yeah, I have quite a lot of books.
We love Dylan so much. Yeah, this is true, bro. We should all love Dylan.
We need a library tour at some point.
Yes. Should that be one of my next videos? Do you believe a human person could have satisfied the debt of sin? If what you best ar this first quick best argument for God the cosmo the St. Thomas's first way the cosmological argument by active potency. Um do you believe human persons could could have satisfied the debt of sin? Uh no I do not because as the theologians say such as St. Gregory of Nazanzis that which is not assumed is not saved. So God had to assume our nature in order to save our nature. The analogy St. Damascus gives in on composite nature against the leaderless is the analogy of a steel being lit on fire. The fire shows no change other than that it is united to the steel and the steel is um the steel is hot. The steel can still burn you as if it was the fire. just how the flesh of Christ can still heal you as if it was really divine like really the divinity because the communic you disagree yeah no I know Jonathan Thomas takes that position I just don't um take that position Mercy. I don't think you can. Yeah, know I don't think you can reply to comments on YouTube. It's It's kind of weird.
Dylan, do you know Prince Copic? I I've heard of him. I think I've seen him a few places. Never spoken to him. Jesuits or Dominican scholasticism. That's a good question because I obviously Dominicans, but Jesuits, there are a lot of great Jesuits. Um, most notably Front Suarez, Francis Noe, Robert Bellerin, etc. Those are very excellent.
But the Dominicans, let's be uh more of us. Yo, no, we're not Scottists, bro.
Yo, I'm banning it. No, I'm just kidding. No, but I hate Scottis.
Um, no, don't disagree with St. Thomas.
He's the goat. Who do you think is the best? What do you uh I answered that uh first way of St. Thomas, the cosmological argument. Let me rotate back to the original.
Why do you hate Ezra? Well, according to Father Martini, the formal distinction leads to erroneous opinions in God. Um um what was I gonna say?
Um oh yeah um all of my favorite legends argue against it. [ __ ] has a section where argues against the formal distinction. And I just want to make this quick a note. Janedius Golerios the infamous orthodox the or quote orthodox theologian um he was He essentially taught the same thing as Scottus. The only difference between the Palomite tradition and the Scotas tradition is that the Palommites are going to say that uh the divine essence infinitely transcends the divine energy. Meanwhile, that's actually like polytheistic paganism.
Like that's actually insane. But Scottus on the other hand has a more refined um argument. John would be Jay D. It depends on what. Jay's obviously like way more experienced than me, but uh I actually have true theology on my side.
Are you a neocolastic? What do you mean by neoccolastic? Like like like do I take the scholastic tradition? Yeah. And I'm reading Against the Calvinist by Father Jin Baptist G. That's really good. Uh I've read a lot there's a lot of good PDFs in my server, my Discord server on Jeene Baptist G. Um, there's just a lot of good stuff in there and it's in my YouTube bio if you want to join if you're not already in it.
What do you recommend reading or watching on SC toism or Scottism?
Um, and yeah, no, I'm drinking a Diet Coke. This is amazing.
Um, reading.
So, page 25, I think it is, of Father Francis Noel, uh, compendium of Suarez Theology.
I believe that is the page where he discusses the formal distinction. He refutes it.
Um Jin Baptist Gune on the divine attributes he refutes it. Um obviously Jean of St. Thomas is going to refute it and disperate relations itself is refuted by all the theologians. Gene Baptist Gulmet and John of St. Thomas have better um they have better uh what's it called? Wait wait wait oh yeah better reputations of disperate relations. a minor one is father.
He has a pretty good reputation. I have his book over there. Um yeah. No, they're gonna have good reputations of desperate relations. And just to give like a quick summary of what they're going to be saying is [laughter] Yeah. What do you think about the No, that quote from Pelios is taken like way out of context and everybody on YouTube has already refuted that. Then how long did it how long did it take for you to get your knowledge and where did you start? I started well no I'm I'm not going to tell you where I started because then you're going to do it how I did it which I absolutely wouldn't recommend. Instead what I'd recommend is leading read reading St. Thomas Aquinus's letter to John. Um no it's not a good quote but St. Thomas Aquinus's letter to John. He discusses how to study. Then I would obviously recommend the compendium. That's the most introductory work of St. Thomas, then I'd make sure that you understand the 10 categories. So, read the categories of Aristotle. Are you good at math? I'm okay at math. I wouldn't say I'm that good. I'm not that excellent.
Um, and then other than that, you can pretty much start progressing through the works of the Scholastics.
Um, yeah. No, but the most introductory work of St. Thomas is definitely his compendium. No. Tell us how you started.
So we for Okay, this is how not to start. Do not start by uploading awful Tik Tok videos.
And yeah, no, that's about it.
No, I used to use um I'm not going to say this. This is like embarrassing. Uh two years ago when I started theology, I um I I used like AI to debate people, which is awful. I only really started to really read the Tusians last year, like a year ago. Actually, about exactly a year ago, no, maybe a year and a half.
Um, yeah. What do you think about St. Serial second letter to Sensus? The second letter to the second letter to the census, uh, it does not refute Calian Christologology. No, I'm definitely going to be ashamed of that, bro. Uh, it's one of my most worst faults when I've been discussing theology.
But now I'm don't use AI and I'm true scholastic.
Also read um uh to the guy who asked how to start reading theology, read Henry Grineer's um tumistic philosophy volumes, all the volumes, but definitely read it on logic. That's how I really started to get logic.
I mean more of I mean more of like you're not Oh yeah. Yeah. I love your vids, by the way. Thank you so much, bro. I I appreciate that.
What do you think of the Aen versus David Erhan debate?
Um, I think Erhan was thoroughly destroyed.
I think Aen completely uh took him apart on most of the debate topics and especially when they were talking about intrinsic change and in relation to enhostan how tall am I um six feet but in regards to that debate um the main problem David had aside from the petristics that's a whole another thing that I'm not get not going to get into but when he was talking about intrinsic change the problem with the eastern orthodox because they don't have the the true scholastics. Now, what so everyone refutes this um St. Thomas will apply um a relation a mixed relation uh where there's a real relation on the part of humanity to divinity but a logical relation on the part of divinity to humanity which allows for no change to be ascribed to the divine in any way but only on account of the man. He discusses this in the terta parts question two and question three. Uh I think it's articles article three reply to objection one I'm pretty sure of this of the second question. And then um Mastrius Mastrius in on the incarnation refutes this uh and Mastrius is a scotus of course unfortunately but he uh does refute it quite well.
What he says uh hold up I think I sent in DMs to this one guy. Uh yeah what he says is that any change that is ascribed is not in himself merely through the creature and thus the divine word is said to be assuming or uniting the nature to itself but the termination of the change happens only in the humanity and not in the divinity and the divinity considered in itself in the divine word is the divine word.
there's a minor virtual distinction or well for master there'd be a formal distinction but yeah so what essentially what he says this is what he says to the argument the anticident being granted the consequence must be denied for although it is true that the word and time is denominated intrinsically and substantially man it cannot nevertheless be rightly inferred from this that any physical change followed in the word since it can be intrinsically and substantially denominated to an intrinsic union received and subjected only in the humanity and intrinsically terminated to itself only in the sense already explained. So any change terminates only in the div or only in the humanity I do not pray the luminous mysteries and I'm not going to comment on the second part. Uh, how do I look so good, dude? I don't look that amazing. But what I did was for about seven months, I ate only meat and fruit. And now I still do that.
Although obviously I'm drinking diet coke, but I I don't think I look that good.
Um, how can we prove the filioquay?
So many ways, bro. If you want a metaphysical argument, relation relationship opposition or the scotchist argument uh are going to be the best.
The Scottish argument is that from the funded will and funed intellect. Um and then petristically it's all over. Um St. Augustine notably in the east um in the east St. Sirill, St. Epipanius, etc. I do not pray the divine mercy chap that you look like a baddie.
Yo, these are my subscribers.
[snorts] No, no, yo, what's up, guys? How do you feel about some of the Catholic churches being modernized? I went to my friend's confirmation. They had a dude playing the drums and playing an electric guitar and the bishop was there cuz he was doing the confirmations and he was like fine with it. This was like insanity. I went there cuz I usually go to a traditional Latin mass. That like confirmation was like so weird.
Bro, not a single person picked their name as Thomas Aquinus son.
To be fair, St. Thomas isn't even my patron. My patron saint St. Maximus.
Yeah, I know. It was like utterly insane.
Oh my gosh. I feel bad for your town, bro. Everyone in your town needs an exorcism. I got a I got a ton of divine mercy chaplet. Instead of getting the divine mercy chaplet, get the rosary.
You got to give them the rosary because our lady of Fatima decrees that the rosary and consecration to immaculate heart are going to be the defenses against Satan. So those are definitely going to be the best devotions that I would uh recommend.
I recently no this this is really cool guys. My mother's friend went to Rome and she bought me a rosary uh from the Vatican.
No, no, no. Pope swinger. Pope. The rosary infinitely surpasses the divine mercy chaplet. Infinitely surpasses it.
There's actually no way you just said that. The divine mercy is nothing compared to the rosary. Anyway, my mother's friend got me a rosary in the Vatican. Got it blessed by a priest in St. Peter's Basilica. I just wanted to say that because that was great. Cool.
What do you think of St. Ephraim? If you're talking about St. Efim the Syrian, he was brilliant. What's the strategy? I got to get cute like you.
Bro, stop. Um, yeah. If you read the diary of Fina, Christ would disagree. No, the diary of Fina is filled. It's filled to the brim with insane stuff such as her saying that Christ united to her in a way as in no other creature. She she puts herself above the blessed virgin. I actually privately deny Fostina's saintthood. I do not think she uh and not like she could be in heaven, but I don't think she's worthy of veneration, but the Vatican approved it. I'm just not going to talk further on this in this regard cuz there's like a lots of opinions that I have that like gets too complicated.
Yeah, I've read the divine mercy.
Um, I'm actually going to defend I'm going to defend Vatican 2 on this point.
The reason why they say this is they will appeal to the material at on formal latter, which means that materially in their profession because they worship the true God. materially that is so they profess to worship the true god we worship the true god thus it's the same god so they will appear appeal that this is materially the set of a contantist will deny and say that they teach formally thus a heresy um I'm not going to get into like set of aantism a set of privationist will say that well okay so what you mean by set of Contism is known as totalism. What the totalists or what you call the set of aontists will say is that these popes elections were completely invalid. What the set of provationists will say such as the Roman Catholic Institute is that these popes had a valid election but following the principles of canon 188 uh or no not 188 I forgot what canon is. It's like it's one of those canons. Um in the 1917 code they will say that um what they will say is um sorry I lost track of my thought there. What they will say what the set of provationists will say is that these men have had a valid election but by the principle that an election is not accepted until the individual consents to the papacy. They will say that by the divine law, the individual uh who may be a public heretic has been blocked from accepting the papacy and thus he only receives the material aspect of the papacy as outlined in that canon. Let me check. I have like a bunch of uh quotes for like set of privationism in one of my discord servers. This is like a private one though. Uh loss of authority probationist. No, that's not it. Uh no arguments. Um, yo, where is this? The heck? Oh, taught by Tusians. Here it is. Um, yeah. Uh, no, it's canon 219. The Roman pontiff legitimately elected as soon as he accepts the election, uh, receives by the divine law the full power of supreme jurisdiction. So, supreme jurisdiction is what he receives by the form of the papacy. And also in the dictionary, the theologia, Catholic um he will say that uh that the election is achieved when the elect so he's already elect so he's pope- elect consents to the election by so there's an intermediate stage so I actually have Google slides on this too guys um uh my bad I just rotated that over I don't know why I did that um where is it a privationism yeah here it says the kazyakum.
So what they will say is ex person was elected validly and due to trying to impose heresy that person is divinely barred from accepting the papacy. X remains as the pope elect meaning that he holds the material papacy but not the formal papacy and he remains legally but not factually a member of the Catholic Church and the formal side is going to be the universal jurisdiction. So the form is anything established as a divine principle of the papacy such as binding and loosing. The material side is anything not pertaining to the divine establishment. Appointed cardinals is going to be a thing um that pertains to the matter because it was not divinely instituted by Christ himself but rather it was a development later on a medieval development. I believe it was established in like 1060 or something like that. And the individual portion is also considered part of the matter. So the matter of the papacy is the individual plus anything not established by God. And then here are all the illusions that teach it. Canon dictionary and then is people authority and accent or substance of the papacy? What do you mean? If you're asking if it's intrinsically applied to the papacy in itself, authority is going to be pertaining to the substance, but the substance is going to be composed of matter and form. Thus, it pertains to the form.
Dylan, what the hell do you mean you don't look that good? I don't think I do. That's just my personal like opinion.
thoughts on Talon Bome. No, I've spoken to him. I debated him twice. I've debated him twice. Um, no, no, he's a good guy. He's smart. Um, I wouldn't say I'm friends with him, but he's a smart person. Christmas is, in my opinion, I prefer Christmas. Uh, but Easter is pretty cool. No, Nick the Catholic was there when I was debating him. I debated him twice. I think he was there when I debated him the first time in January.
Or no, it might have been late December.
No, but I prefer Christmas. Although Easter is also amazing. It depends for what.
I prefer Christmas just because it's winter, the seasoning, and I of the seasons. And I I can't lie, obviously the presents are nice, too. Obviously, it's not the point of Christmas. The point of Christmas is the birth and incarnation of our Lord, but uh the presents are also nice. I got a few books last year for Christmas. It was very good.
And then Easter, um I also like to buy myself a gift for Easter. This year I bought Yseph de Mashra on the Pope and I bought a statue of St. Thomas. The statue came with this card of St. Thomas with the students prayer on the back.
Very brilliant. What do you think about Eastern right churches? I used to go to one. I used to go to a Byzantine Catholic church last year. I stopped going around June, but no, they're beautiful.
When I was six, I got Superman pretty sure that's tough.
I want to start going to a Byzantine Catholic church near me. No. Yeah. No, that's good. I have one so close to it.
Also, this book is fantastic. If anyone wants to learn about moral theology, definitely read um St. Alfonsorius Tujier Morales.
This is brilliant. Love this book.
Do you like Pine Sap? I've heard of him.
Never watched his videos.
Do you go to mass as a sday?
Um, not really. I I go to mass, but I honestly could care less about civic contism nowadays cuz I've been like thinking about it and uh I'm trying to I'm trying to like I don't know what I'm trying to do. It's complicated.
called serial the level lover of truth.
Is that about serial of Jerusalem or serial of Alexandria?
Both brilliant.
Who's your confirmation saint? St. Maximus the confessor. Brilliant man.
Love him. St. Maximus is like true scholastic.
Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Do you doubt your confirmation because you're sad? No, bro. I'm definitely not a genius. I'm not smart at all. Uh, instead of watching my videos, read the te illusions. I'm just here to help.
Cap, you're smart. I'm definitely not Wagner smart. Who got you into theology?
It was one edit in the summer of 2023.
One edit in June like saved my life.
Like seriously, I think about that a lot.
Dylan, you're smart, bro. don't even you know like in comparison I may be smart but in in the grand scheme of things I'm not I'm discerning between oriental orthodoxy and Catholicism and what books would you recommend to read okay um I got a lot read the third part of St. Thomas then read John of St. Thomas's commentary on the third part. After read book three of St. John of Damascus's Defeed Orthodoxa, then read St. John of Damascus against the Jacobites and uh on composite nature against the leaderless.
Once you have done this, read St. Maximus the Confessor's Apostula 13 and 15. And once you're done with that, I would recommend reading the letters of Sirill. And once you're done with this, read And once you're done with this, you should be Catholic. I'm going to be going. See you later, brother. God bless you so much. God bless. Do you know what edit it was? I don't know. But it was like it was like a hard style edit with a bunch of it was like straight up iconic.
Dylan, what's your issue with me to them? Well, there's like a lot of issues, man. Uh, let's go to St. Thomas for my answer.
Let's go through question two of the ters.
How are generation or active generation and pastes distinct? Uh yes and uh no the reason is actually is when you read the tians um St. Thomas Aquinus uh notably all the toists are going to agree that uh active generation is going to be distinct from passpiration because of relative opposition. There is technically relative opposition. Now the relative opposition is on part of the active and passive but it is not on part of the spiration generation. Now there is going to be a relation of o wait no I got that wrong. No no no no hold on.
So the relation the two relations there are going to be distinct minor virtually.
Um but they would hold on let me actually confirm this. I haven't thought about this in a long time. I'm not gonna show you guys this though because at the top it actually has my uh full legal name.
So you guys are definitely not going to be seeing my full legal name today. Um that's not going to happen.
But I need to check this from Lrange.
And because of this I'm going to have to drag uh I'm dragging this over so I can still read you guys comments. No, Lrange speaks of this I'm pretty sure.
The divine relations.
Yeah, here it is.
Yep. As I suspected, Father Legr speaks of this. So according to him, there are four kinds of opposition. And the reply to the difficulties is that they hold up. The reply to the difficulties is that they're Hold on. Oh my gosh.
Hold up. This is so annoying, bro.
Yeah. So passive spiration is going to be distinct from active generation by the fact that uh one cannot um in the you know Suarez yeah I know I've read Suarez he's got some uh incorrect statements but logically falling from the fact that according to St. Thomas the Holy Spirit is technically past expiration itself.
There is going to be uh some distinction there. Uh let's me go ahead and find this real quick. Relation to properties.
Yeah, person and property are really the same. So yeah, there is going to be distinction there. Um but if by act of generation you just mean paternity then that itself is merely minor virtually distinct from past expiration. Now I am going to have to go guys. Uh wait I'll answer your question. Uh wait no that actually gets really indepth. So I will answer that um in another live. I'll be live maybe later. But yeah, guys, uh, God bless if you want to send. Yo, I'm never getting the Dominican haircut, dude. Um, like the little like ring around my head.
It's not happening. Even though I love St. Thomas. Anyway, guys, God bless. And uh, oh, I forgot to answer Cerillion's question, too. I got sidetracked. Um, no, I'll answer both those in a future live. And no, I'll just make a video on my main issue with me ausism, like to be honest. But yeah, no, God bless you all.
This is a very great live. Um, I appreciate all of you for coming and
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