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Angry Feminists Are Shaming Modest Women... Society Is DOOMED! | The Coffee PodAñadido:
Modest women are getting bullied on the internet.
Drink the coffee. It'll make you feel better.
>> This video comes from Janae Danielle.
Don't want to waste any time. Let's get it. There's a new epidemic in the US that no one is talking about. [music] That is the epidemic of modesty. Women who make modesty content are some of [music] the biggest pick me's.
>> You're actively saying, "Look at how covered I am. Don't I deserve the respect and she doesn't?"
>> I'm so serious when I So, you want to dress like a harlot. say, "I do not care about modesty." Mhm. Gen Z modesty, no.
No, no, no, no, no. I'm not falling for it. I'm going to jump I'm wearing mini skirts, going to the club, staying out till 4:00 a.m. Maybe I'll have a cigarette.
>> Can we leave the modest fashion after this year? You're 21. It is your responsibility to be hot.
>> It's crazy to see women attacking women for being too modest. Oh, this is strictly perversion. We have entered the day and age where the internet is dragging women for simply putting on clothes. From modesty being labeled as oppressive and covering up being called spiritual gaslighting, it's no longer just clothing. It's becoming a problem many people feel they need to call out.
And the way people are talking about it now, it's becoming less criticism and something way more deeper we need to unpack.
>> Good job, feminist. You want more women to take their clothes off. Good job. Way to go. Way to go, feminism.
>> This video isn't going to be telling women how to dress. It's about what happens when women decide not to dress a certain way and why for some people it's a problem. Welcome to the girl talk you didn't know you needed. And I'm not saying you have to subscribe. You're classy. I know you don't just give those away for free. But hopefully at the end of this video we become bestie enough for you to take that next step. There was a time when dressing modestly wasn't really a statement. It was just the the If we want to be real, back in the day, no Hold on a second. Hold on. a statement. It Wow.
Wow. Yeah, bring this back. was just the norm. If we want to be real, back in the day, no one really called modesty, modesty. It was just how women showed up. It was how they were supposed to show up.
>> She looked like this.
The same suit, but nicely fitted.
Her plain pumps were in excellent taste.
A good buy because they could be worn with practically everything. And her tailored blouse was perfect. If you were going to prom, if you were going to church, your knees probably weren't showing. And it didn't feel restrictive.
It just felt normal. Now, here is something super important. Bare knees were a no-no. Despite what you see in modern period drama, Look at that. so 1950s musical set in the '20s, you wouldn't usually expose your knees more than literally the lower edge of your kneecap.
>> No one accused you of hiding, of being insecure. No one thought you were ashamed to show your body. Now, of course, some people would argue that the modern era back in the day wasn't always as harmless as I'm making it out to seem. And they honestly wouldn't be wrong because back then, there definitely were women who were forcibly told that they needed to cover up to be respected.
>> While an occasional flash of an ankle or a calf was considered more or less appropriate. If a woman woman wanted to walk around the city in a knee-length dress, she would most likely ruin her reputation. Wase and Al-Hawaj Kneecaps and ankles being taboo is crazy to think about where we're at now.
>> doesn't wear the hijab and says the choice to wear one should be well informed. There are women in the world who don't have a choice to wear it.
You see discussion of choice more in the West. But we have to be honest about this not always being the case. So, we're not going to ignore the fact that for some women covering up was sometimes weaponized, either by their culture, their parents, or men. But, over time, we've flipped the switch so much in the other direction that now choosing to cover up on your own terms is a little unsettling. It seems like modesty is coming with assumptions before you can even open your mouth.
>> Saying I dress modestly because I respect myself is just purity culture dressed up as a personality trait.
Who said that?
>> Dressing modestly is no longer being seen as neutral. Instead, it's becoming something people feel like they need to explain. Well, because it's not neutral.
It's not neutral. What's neutral now is Maybe it's just It's not just in LA.
It's everywhere, right? It's not just neutral. You're making a statement.
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>> The amount of people that make fun of me for being a modest mother is so weird to me. I made a couple of videos about the swimsuits that me and my kids wear.
They're high necks and they're tank tops that are long and they cover up everything. People are literally telling me I'm a bad mother because I don't let my kids wear bikinis and thongs. What is making me a bad mother? Teaching my kids that modesty is a good thing?
>> We're seeing modesty get treated as a warning sign instead of a wardrobe choice. Because the idea that some women may genuinely prefer to show less skin, that doesn't register anymore. Instead, what registers is that she's oppressed, ashamed, and trying to make a statement she never said.
>> The women who preach modesty be so self-centered. Their brain literally revolves around the thoughts of a man.
Does she have a face tattoo?
I mean, get a load of that nose ring.
Everything here is checking out 100%.
>> is securing a husband all day long and worshipping a man. You're actively saying, "Look at me. Look at how I'm doing it. Look at how I'm wearing it.
Isn't this better than what she's doing?"
>> As more women are starting to dress more modestly, people are trying to decode it like it's a message. Like maybe these women are trying to prove something, hide something, or be better than everyone else. You know what it is?
Women understand deep down inside, I mean the ones that are showing off a bunch of skin, that overall society, and men especially, respect women more who cover up. Yes, sure, you can get empty attention that really isn't that um doesn't last that long, isn't that meaningful by showing less skin. And I'm not somebody who's like, "Every woman should not be wearing something that uh is showing too much of her legs." I think that there's a balance here, right? People can be neutral. But overall, if you want to dress extremely modest, you should be allowed to do that. You should not be shamed for dressing uh modestly. Like cuz people like to assume that I'm like really extreme um with how I view dress. I just think people have definitely taken it too far.
And these chicks, you know, when they see a woman who does have a level of self-respect, like they do have a limit.
They want you to have no limits. When you do have a limit, they look at you, they think like, "Oh, you think that you're better? You think that they're going to respect you more?" They will respect you more. And they'll respect you less. We're seeing many people label modest women as insecure, her formative, and even pick me's.
>> Isn't it crazy that women are catching heat for being too modest?
So now being different means covering up? I heard a guy say that the reason they they can't let this trend catch on is cuz the actual attractive women are going to win. Like they can't participate. The main argument seems to be that it's really not about modesty and it's more about a performance.
Almost like a quiet way to say, "Look at me. I'm not like them." Dressing modestly in Miami to show the girls that you can be sexy and elegant. Not all of us want to look like free hookers. If your real goal was to get more women to dress more like you, to dress more modest, do you think addressing them like that is going to work? Do you think degrading them, belittling them, acting very disgusted towards them, calling them what you call them, do you think that's what's going to get them Oh my They look like hookers.
That's the truth. They look like streetwalkers. That's a fact.
Goodness, yeah. She's totally right. I want to dress more modest.
>> The irony is modesty was never supposed to be this loud, bold statement that had women wanting to be seen and looked at.
It's just the reactions behind it made people look at it a lot more. And the way people are reacting to it circles back to one little insult that I'm pretty sure a lot of you have probably heard. And that is that a lot of the women dressing modestly are only dressing modest >> because they can't be sexy and show skin.
>> So these people who give these internet thing pieces about like, "Oh, dressing modest" is because they don't know how to be sexy. I said it.
Which is a crazy argument. It's like if you're not participating in the sexy aesthetic, it's because you weren't invited. But I think a lot of people are forgetting that a lot of women didn't ask to be put in that aesthetic in the first place.
>> One thing that I will never understand is society's desire to taint innocence.
I seen this video come across my Tik Tok. Just from what I could tell from the caption, I can tell she's a Christian woman who is God-fearing and very modest. And in the comments, people were saying to free her, that she needs to go to a club.
Evil.
Did you guys hear that? They saw a woman who they could tell is has a level of innocence, right? Cuz they want to strip every woman, feminist, modern-day um non-God-fearing women in this modern day, which the majority of them today um consist of. They see somebody who looks innocent, they want to strip her of that innocent. They want to They want to free her. Chicks are ruined.
>> that she needs to uh dress more provocative, that she needs to go to LA and become a model, that she needs to get on Love Island. You see something beautiful and it's like we want to throw it out to the wolves.
>> I tapped into that conversation in my most recent video, "Sexy Is Starting to Look Desperate." A lot of you probably haven't seen it because YouTube decided to flag it because it was a little too hot to handle. So, if you want to check that video out, I will leave it in the description box below so that you can get into the tea. But there's this growing assignment that if you're a young woman, you need to be outside, you need to be free, you need to be a hot girl.
Why is this being peddled to me on my For You page right before summer? Some woman on my For You page tried to sell me this. We are coming into summer, ladies. I want to see butt cheeks. I want to see some under boob.
>> Really hate to see young women every day I come on this app being robbed of their youth. And when I say young women, I mean like women between the ages of like 19 to like 26. I don't know who lied to the girls and told the girls that they have to dress like middle-aged women.
Get a load of those nails. Who are dropping their kids off to school, who are going to Pilates, who are getting coffee. I just want the girls to be sexy and cool again. Now, when the girly said that clothing was becoming more conservative.
>> This chick makes her own hats, as you can tell, there's no way she bought that.
She makes her own hats. Last night I was window shopping on the typical sites, Shein, Fashion Nova.
Where is the cleavage? Ma'am, we'll let you dress however you want as long as you take that thing off your head.
And now this is the part where we're going to have a lot of people mad in the comments. A lot of women aren't dressing for themselves, they're dressing for proof that they still got it. And while yes, y'all know I'm not the type of person that would shame a woman for wanting to show skin, for wanting to be seen, there's just a difference in being empowered in We will. your body and then feeling pressured to have to prove that empowerment.
>> Every time I take a photo and I want to give sexy, I feel like it never comes out like that. I hate that my face is just like cute and not like seductive and like I have no idea how to portray myself as like a sexy individual.
>> And I really want to say this because I've been getting a lot of comments of people saying, "Jenae, you only point out women and what they're wearing and what they're doing." First of all, this is the girl talk. Okay, a lot of you get it, but a lot of people they only see these surface level of these conversations and they think that I'm pointing fingers at only women. We're pointing fingers at the deeper meaning behind them. For the people who only see the surface, we need you to go a little deeper. Just a little deeper. But if you've been here long enough, you know that everything we're talking about ties right back into social media. Social media praises this behavior. They praise women for being confident, but only when it looks a certain way. So, if confidence comes in a turtleneck, suddenly it's giving pick me or save me.
You know what's really crazy? As soon as a woman doesn't want to have clothes on, as soon as a woman wants to wear a bi- a bikini, wants to have her stomach out, her boobs out, her butt out, it's fine.
As soon as a woman who wants to wear long sleeve, wants to cover their hair, doesn't want to show their bum, their boobs, it's an issue. It's a problem.
>> Now let's be real. Women dress modest What a crazy, crazy world we're living in right now, guys. I want you to think about what she just said right there.
That's wow. We live in an era where you are shamed for wanting to keep clothes on.
I mean, everything's completely backwards. This world is really like flipped upside down, demonic. for multiple reasons. It could be for comfort. [music] It could be it's just because it's their style or maybe even their religion. And one of the biggest criticisms that a lot of modest women face today is that their modesty isn't real. It's a cry for help in disguise.
So, my hijab comes into question whenever I mention cultural issues.
People say things like, "So, take down the patriarchy by taking off your hijab.
It's that easy."
I have to clarify, my hijab isn't cultural, it's religious. And no, I'm not impressed, but if I feel empowered wearing it, you have no authority tell me to take it off because it doesn't fit your standards of empowerment.
>> a woman chooses to cover herself up with hijab, suddenly it's oppression.
Suddenly she must be brainwashed, controlled, or forced. So, freedom only counts when it fits your narrative. Now, here's where it gets a little concerning and alarming because some people aren't just uncomfortable about modesty, they see it as oppressive.
>> Why is modesty even encouraged? Like, why do we have certain dress codes in schools? Why is not being modest considered immoral? It's oppression.
It's oppression towards women. That's what it is. And it's wild how we fought for freedom of expression just to shame the women who express it differently.
I'm thinking about putting my modesty series because people are way too judgmental.
>> Yeah, common feminist contradiction there for sure.
>> about it. So, I started a modesty series where I show you guys how I make outfits more modest. The point of the series was to show you you that modesty isn't this religious, judgemental, opinionated standard that people have created. The level of backlash and judgement I received was way more than I expected.
If we want to support What if it is religious? Does that Does that matter?
play enemy's advocate cuz y'all know we're always going to look at the other side. There are women who are pressured to dress modestly, especially in certain situations where it's used more as control than choice. A man is not making me wear the hijab. I am making myself wear the hijab. Every single day I wake up and I make the conscious decision to wear it, but if I wake up one day and don't want to, I don't have to. evident from these takes that you've always viewed the hijab as an option, something you can put on by choice or take off by choice. For millions of women living in Iran and Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia, it is not optional. It is literally the law. But that's not the case for everyone. This idea that you might simply just have your own standards is starting to be treated as delusion and I understand that it probably gets really frustrating because the women who choose to dress modestly are hearing from other people, you only dress that way because someone told you to.
>> You don't realize that modest this modest summer trend is a push from conservatives to have control over your bodies. Like I don't Do you Do you guys know that? What are you going to do about it? Cuz more women are falling for it.
What are you going to do about it?
>> so many people posting about the move for the summer is modest summer. I feel like it's propaganda at this point.
>> develops a child. Your breastfeed children. I believe that men knew that.
They saw it. They were jealous and These chicks are young. They decided to tell us that it was disgusting and to cover it up.
>> It's like modesty has to be explained while everything else just gets celebrated by society. And honestly, I believe that's why this war started.
There's this back and forth between women who feel policed for showing too much and then on the other hand, there's women who feel attacked for not showing enough. Why is it so imperative that you do have to have your ass aunt [clears throat] I think some of us be out here doing too much and just not realizing like our body's a temple but >> First and foremost, the audacity for you to be critiquing my desire to have my cleavage out for the summer while your cleavage is out in the video. You're in this video shaming me for wanting to have cleavage and talking about what's wrong with being a little mysterious with your body while I can see down your shirt. And it turned into less of a conversation about choice and more of a competition between who's doing it right. If you're a modest woman and you feel like people are coming at you for the ways that you dress, the judgment can definitely be there. The assumptions can most likely be loud and proud, but your choice is still your choice and you don't owe anyone an explanation for doing it. Modesty doesn't mean you're better than everyone else. Yes, it does.
But it also doesn't mean you're broken, insecure, or in need of saving. All right. Um I I guess from a you know, in on this channel we look at things mostly from a sexual market perspective as in you know, what is your value to the goals that you have in life socially, you know, especially dating, marriage, and relationships. And in that context you do perform better if you're not dressed like a 304.
Interesting video. I thought it was interesting. Of course, guys, let me know what you guys think. So, let's go through some of these comments and see what the people have to say. Top comment here says, "You're 21, it's your responsibility to be hot." is unbelievably misogynistic. So, let's not forget this is a female channel, guys.
So, they're going to blame everything on misogyny. All right, just bear through it. This comment here says, "Her body, her choice until she chooses to cover up."
People hate on modest women so much because modesty is a display of strength and weakness cannot stand strength. When I was growing up, I I to dress like uh listen, crazy. And I don't judge anybody that still dresses like that now, but growing up and now realizing that I can actually go outside and cover myself and still feel sexy, gorgeous, attractive meant that the only reason I was actually dressing like that was because I wanted to be looked at in a certain way. I felt that the world would accept me better if I had half of my body hanging out, and that is the actual truth. You might not believe it now if you're still in that position or you still dress like that because you feel that it makes you feel powerful, strong, whatever, but you only feel powerful and strong in that sense because you feel that the world accepts you better like that. And when you get older and you start to realize, "Wait, hold on. I'm actually powerful and strong regardless, and I'm beautiful regardless, so I don't actually need to show certain parts of my body to get that respect." That's when you realize that's why I was doing it. And when I was younger, I used to look at modest women and think, "You think you're nice.
You think you're too much." But it's because of the weakness inside of me to not conform to the world and not present myself in the way that the world wanted me to. That made me hate the strength in them because for you, especially in a world like we have now, to be able to go outside fully clothed and still feel like that girl, still feel like an it girl wherever you are when there's half-naked women walking around, that's a big display of strength. Not only are you strong within who you are as a person, you know that you can still be beautiful head to toe covered, but it also shows that you refuse to conform to the society, to how this world decides that you look beautiful.
So, for you to go against that expectation, it's a big display of strength, and people don't know it until they're older, and then they start realizing, "Wait, I'm actually strong and beautiful, so I don't need to be half naked to feel that way." Then they start realizing, "Oh, I only was doing that because it was for validation."
Once again, no judgment. I still be going outside dressing sometimes definitely not modestly, so I'm not here to judge anyone, but that is the reason why modest women get so much hate because we cannot stand to see the strength in those women.
Uh, somebody else who said, "The fact that people actually told that woman she's a bad mother for not letting her little children wear thongs and bikinis is so sickening. Well, this is what this all leads to, right? Like at what point is there a line? Because once you set the line, now you are the conservative because now children are affected.
Next comment here says, I personally don't want men looking at my body.
Another comment here says, what happened to minding our business? Why can't we leave each other alone and dress in what makes us feel comfortable? Here's another comment that says, in a culture that demands access to everything, choosing not to give that access is empowerment. What a true and powerful statement. Here's somebody else that says, I'm totally out of touch. I thought people dressed according to a personal style, comfortable taste, and occasion. Here's somebody else who says, how can a woman be a pick me if she dresses in a way that is supposed to take looks away from you? Well, the reason they want to label it as being a pick me is because they know that it takes the right type of looks away from you. And actually paints you as a better potential um woman to maybe have a long-term relationship with. You don't look like a harlot. Next comment here says, "Pressuring people to take their clothes off is creepy." Wow, wild stuff, guys.
Interesting video, of course, from Kursion. What do you think? Leave your comments down below. Till next time, I'm out. Peace. Hey guys, as always, I appreciate you checking out yet another episode of Coffee Pot. To my currently engaged or soon-to-be-married men, if you need a pre-nup and would like a guide that shows you how to get a solid and legally binding prenuptial agreement, hit the link pinned to the top of the comment section and access your guide at fathershaverights.com today.
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