The Most CONFIDENTLY STUPID CHRISTIAN Moment Yet.

Added: 2026-05-10

[00:00:00]Atheism is the view that there are no gods.

[00:00:02]>> No, it's not the view that there are no gods. It's the lack of belief in a god.

[00:00:08]You can't even get the definition of the word right. So, there's no hope for the rest of this video, is there?

[00:00:14]Apparently, atheism no longer needs to be taken seriously, whatever the hell that means. Shut up and sit down, you big bald >> Please subscribe. 10 years of studying.

[00:00:25]Yes, studying what though. So roughly 13 years ago, my brother became an atheist.

[00:00:31]We were brought up non-denominational evangelical Christians. So this came as quite a shock as you might imagine. Now I actually went through my own period of doubt right after high school. But I got over it pretty quickly. Like I personally doubted whether or not Jesus actually existed, but I had those doubts overcome pretty quickly when I learned that Jesus was actually mentioned by non-Christian historians like Josephus.

[00:00:51]So after I learned that he'd become an atheist, I thought I could overcome uh his his doubts. But I was wrong. I was very very wrong. What's ever >> about what?

[00:01:03]>> Everyone Cam here. In this video, I'm telling you the story of how after 10 years of study, I no longer take atheism seriously.

[00:01:10]>> What? Hang on a What do you mean you don't take atheism seriously? What does that even mean? But I would like to think that you would also take not believing in Santa Claus seriously or not believing in the Easter Bunny because it's the same thing.

[00:01:24]>> Now, I started this video telling you about my brother and that's all very relevant to where I'm at now. I used to take atheism very very seriously. But >> why though? Why if you're not an atheist? Well, I am an atheist and I don't take atheism seriously because it's not even a thing. It just means that I do not believe in a god or gods.

[00:01:45]What What is there to take seriously?

[00:01:48]>> Pretty much the only thing I knew about atheism back then was that a lot of really smart like scientists were atheists. Right.

[00:01:54]>> Oh, thank you very much.

[00:01:56]>> I had heard the name Richard Dawkins, but I didn't know what he actually said about religion. I just knew that really smart people were atheists.

[00:02:04]>> Yeah, we are atheists.

[00:02:09]But let's return to the story. Okay.

[00:02:11]After I learned that my brother became an atheist, I decided I was going to meet with him and like crush all of his objections. Okay.

[00:02:17]>> Oh, so you were going to try and convert him back to Christianity.

[00:02:21]Why? For what possible reason? Isn't your brother free to make his own decisions?

[00:02:27]>> Okay. This ended up being like the worst idea could have come up with. My brother and I met and it turned out to be literally like one of the worst nights of my life. He raised objections to Christianity I had never even dreamt of.

[00:02:41]But that night showed me that I really had no clue why I believed in Christianity. So, well, and there we go.

[00:02:48]But I do know probably why you believe in Christianity because your parents were Christians. That's usually all that's required. You know, you can't think it's a coincidence that if somebody is Muslim, they're born into a family that follow the Muslim faith or they're born in a country that is Muslim. And the same applies to all other religions. And it's not just blind luck. It's just the way it is. Your parents are Christian, then so are you.

[00:03:17]>> After that night, I started to look into the arguments for and against God's existence. I wanted to know whether or not God's existence was actually reasonable. And after Just a few weeks of study, I quickly learned that there are very powerful arguments for God's existence. I found the kalam cosmological argument, contingency arguments, teological arguments from fine-tuning, arguments from consciousness, moral arguments, and so on. Like there's moral arguments are probably one of the weakest arguments Christians can use to try and prove God's existence. If I took you up to the top of a tall building in a world where God exists and threw you off, that would be wrong, wouldn't it? Because apparently God says it's wrong. But what if we were in an alternative reality where there were no gods? Nobody even had any knowledge of religion and I did exactly the same thing. Does that mean it's not wrong? Because in that alternative reality, God doesn't exist?

[00:04:15]No, of course it doesn't. It's always wrong to hurt somebody. actually a ton of arguments for the existence of God.

[00:04:21]Check out this video, got it linked right here, in which we lay out over 150 arguments for God's existence that >> Yeah, but how many of them come from the Bible? I guarantee that it's at least 149.

[00:04:33]>> Now, this might lead you to think that this kind of like settles the matter.

[00:04:35]Like, don't all of these arguments for God's existence prove that atheism is unreasonable?

[00:04:41]>> How can not believing in something be unreasonable? especially when the thing that you don't believe in has absolutely zero evidence to support it.

[00:04:51]>> First of all, every single argument has responses from atheists. And you've kind of got to do the work going through those responses. But secondly, there are also powerful arguments for atheism.

[00:05:02]>> Yeah, of course there are. And the most powerful argument for atheism is that we're right. Because regardless of what Christians think, there is absolutely no evidence to support the existence of God.

[00:05:14]>> The best argument that atheists have, at least that I found, is the problem of evil.

[00:05:20]>> The problem of evil is just one of the arguments. And I think if I'm understanding the problem of evil the way Christians understand it, the little story I just told about taking somebody to the top of a tall building and pushing them off, that's what that is.

[00:05:36]So, how exactly is that a bad argument?

[00:05:39]>> The problem of evil is so powerful, in fact, that it's led a lot of people to say, "Look, okay, sure, you've got arguments for the existence of God, but the problem of evil is so powerful >> that it defeats all of those arguments."

[00:05:51]But you know what? I should probably like pause the story really quickly and just explain what this argument is.

[00:05:56]>> Yeah, you're not really explaining anything that well. So far, all I can understand from your video is that your brother used to be a Christian, now he's an atheist. You tried to convince him to convert back to Christianity and failed.

[00:06:09]And apart from that, you've just been waffling.

[00:06:11]>> So, first let me say that this is one of the arguments I've paid the most attention to over the past decade. I've read books, I've watched debates between top scholars, I've listened to lectures, I've watched Joe Schmid, and so on. So, to quickly summarize, the problem of evil is an argument against an all powerful, all- knowing, all good God.

[00:06:28]Here's a really common way that it's expressed these days. Premise one, if God exists, pointless suffering does not exist. Premise two, pointless suffering exists. Therefore, three, conclusion, God does not exist. Both premises in this argument seem pretty plausible.

[00:06:42]Like, if God did exist, he would probably not permit any pointless suffering. If God truly existed and he was as benevolent and loving as you all seem to think he is, there wouldn't be evil. Full stop, would there? What sort of god, you know, the ruler of the universe? I always thought that was He-Man.

[00:07:05]If God existed, what sort of God is he?

[00:07:08]Because if he's all powerful, then he could just stop all the evil, couldn't he? So that means he chooses not to, if he exists at all, which makes him not a very nice God.

[00:07:25]>> All suffering would have some kind of purpose. The Bible even says that God is working all things toward our good. So, premise one seems pretty plausible.

[00:07:33]Premise two also seems pretty plausible.

[00:07:36]Like, just look around a bit and you'll find cases of seemingly pointless suffering. Now, as you might expect, just like atheists have responses to the arguments for God's existence, Christians have responses to both premises and the argument from evil.

[00:07:48]>> Yeah. But the problem is all the Christians arguments come from the Bible. So, they're coming from a place that absolutely 100% thinks that God is real. So, it's not really so the direction you want to be heading with this type of argument, is it?

[00:08:05]Because you're getting your information from the wrong place. You can't use the Bible to prove that the Bible is true.

[00:08:11]>> Some Christians argue that God can allow pointless suffering. Others argue that while some suffering might seem pointless on the surface, it still nevertheless has a purpose.

[00:08:21]>> Okay. Yeah, maybe suffering does have a purpose. It sort of shapes us as people and teaches us lessons. But we don't need any sort of God for that to still apply.

[00:08:34]>> The reason why I don't take atheism seriously any longer is because even if we accept the atheist strongest argument, it still wouldn't prove atheism. And now I'm >> That is such a stupid bloody thing to say. How do you prove the lack of belief in a god? You just have to ask somebody, "Do you believe in God?" If they say no, then they've proven that they don't believe in God. Unless, of course, they lie to you. But why would they?

[00:09:05]>> Kind of realizing that I probably should have defined atheism a lot earlier on.

[00:09:09]>> Yes, you should have a hell of a lot earlier. Maybe right at the start of your video.

[00:09:14]>> Philosophically, atheism is the view that there are no gods. No, it's not the view that there are no gods. It's the lack of belief in a god. You can't even get the definition of the word right.

[00:09:25]So, there's no hope for the rest of this video, is there?

[00:09:28]>> There's no creator. There's no designer of the universe. We weren't created for some purpose by somebody. Theism, on the other hand, is the view that at least one god exists. So, atheism has no gods.

[00:09:38]And theism has at least one god. But so, why doesn't the problem of evil establish atheism? Well, simply because there are many many many other kinds of gods that it doesn't rule out. The British philosopher Philip Goff is a really good example of someone that adopts a sort of non-standard view of God.

[00:09:58]>> Hang on a second. So, are you saying then that yes, there's evil in the world, but it it's not the god I believe in. It's one of those other stupid gods that I don't believe in.

[00:10:08]>> So, we're in this situation where the believers are tying themselves up in knots trying to explain suffering. The atheists are trying tying themselves up in knots trying to explain fine-tuning when in fact there are middle ground options that can elegantly account for both of these data points. Consider, for example, the hypothesis of a god of limited power. A god who's made the best universe they can. Maybe gods simply can't create complex life in an instant.

[00:10:39]Maybe the only way God can create intelligent life is by creating a universe with the right physics that is eventually going to evolve intelligent life. And and God's like, I'm sorry. I know it's going to be messy. This is all I can do is this or nothing. I >> Hang on a second. So, you're saying then that God does exist. He's just not very good at being God.

[00:11:01]I think this hypothesis can account for both the finetuning in terms of God's purposes and the suffering in terms of God's limitations.

[00:11:12]>> So even though God is all good perfectly benevolent on >> is he is he really well that's questionable to say the least >> this view given his limit in power there's no way that he can like stop all of the suffering in the world. What I want you to notice here, and this is really important, the problem of evil, which is once again the one of the atheist best arguments, doesn't touch this particular view of God that we >> No, no, no. The the problem of evil isn't one of atheism's best arguments.

[00:11:40]The lack of evidence to support the existence of God is our best argument and the primary reason why most atheists are atheist.

[00:11:50]>> Think about it like this, okay?

[00:11:51]Scientists used to believe that the speed of light was infinite. We didn't conclude that there's like no such thing as light, right? We modified our concept of the speed of light, one of the properties of light.

[00:12:03]>> Yeah. Because that's how science is meant to work and does work. I I don't see your point.

[00:12:10]>> So, what I'm saying here is that the best case scenario for the atheist in this argument should really just lead us to revise our view of God. It shouldn't lead us to become atheists.

[00:12:20]>> Yeah. So, you should at the very least think, okay, maybe God does exist, but he's definitely a bit of a dick.

[00:12:28]>> Keep in mind, I'm not saying that the problem of evil is sound or persuasive.

[00:12:32]Personally, I think there are many good responses to the problem of evil, like the soulbuilding theodysy. I'm saying that even if we grant it, hypothetically, if we grant it, it doesn't come anywhere close to even establishing atheism. Something else important I want you to notice is that the same cannot be said of arguments for God's existence. Like if we grant that the arguments go through for God's existence, then they would actually prove that at least one God is real. How though? How though? Why is it that your standard of evidence to prove God is lower than low can be, but the standard of evidence you need to disprove a god is?

[00:13:11]Well, it's it's ridiculously high. So the move that I'm making here by like hypothetically granting their argument is not available to the atheists. They can't hypothetically grant the arguments for theism. Instead, they just sort of have to trust that every argument for God's existence fails. Even >> No, that's the thing. That's why we're atheists because we don't just trust the arguments for God's existence because I've never heard a valid one anyway.

[00:13:38]>> Even the ones they've never heard of, which is actually kind of a giant leap of faith if you think about it. All right. Now, just so I'm not misunderstood, here's what I'm not saying. I'm not saying that Christians should think that God is limited in power.

[00:13:50]>> Yeah, but that's exactly what you did say. Oh, well, it wasn't you. It was the other guy, wasn't it? Yeah, God exists.

[00:13:56]He's just not very good at doing God's stuff.

[00:14:00]>> I'm not saying that we have to make this move. Okay. What I'm saying is that the atheist best argument doesn't come close to establishing atheism. So even if we grant the atheist strongest argument, it does not support atheism. The most it would do again hypothetically is cause us to revise our view of God. That's it.

[00:14:19]And this is a huge reason why I no longer take atheism seriously.

[00:14:25]>> Yeah. Well, do you know what I don't take seriously? Christians who make videos like this. Thanks for watching everybody. See you in the next one. Love you. Bye.

[00:14:33]>> Oh, and you're a regular road scholar.

[00:14:36]Where was it you graduated from again? H the University of D.

[00:14:40]>> Did you know that when you die, your pupils are the last thing to go? They dilate.