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HEATED! ASB CLASHES With Ras Nado Over Sending For Bashy & GRM!Añadido:
versus the idea. The idea of having a GRM North sounds quite like a cool business idea. But the reality is if they do what you do, just put them on the same thing and get it cracking.
That's the reality.
>> Yeah, the matching works at the time.
>> But that's the difference between um the culture person and the business person.
>> So like I'm I'm not a black man, bro. So I might not get the he's a culture move needle mover, but I think the other way like we all just got to do it together.
>> Mhm.
>> We've got to bring it through, connect, unite, real recognize real. You've got a story, you deserve the seat. Why should I want to watch your following to see if I want to interview you?
>> Mhm.
>> Why should I worry oh has he has he gone viral?
That blood. Imagine what I interview you because you're >> Do I like it? Do I like the person stuff?
>> Yeah.
>> No but no but >> Am I interested?
>> So bro, how about this? Let's keep it even realer. What if I don't like it but I respect it?
>> Yeah, but >> still want to talk to you.
>> Why not? What if you ask me for a seat >> Then cool.
>> and I say no cuz I don't like your tune.
That don't make sense either. Someone likes it obviously cuz you're getting views, you're doing your thing, you're moving and that.
>> Yeah.
>> And it ain't about the views is what I'm saying whether you should be invited on the show.
>> Mhm.
>> And it ain't about the ain't about the views if we should make a separate label name for you. It [snorts] should be really about kind of like do we [ __ ] with him or not? If we do, we sign him.
If we don't, we don't.
>> We don't.
>> Do you get it? That's my opinion. Now we can get to the reasoning.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah?
>> Mhm.
>> This one, I went with you on this one, bro.
>> Mhm. With what?
>> I think the reasoning one, I think you was a little bit wrong off on that one.
>> Why?
>> Because that to me wasn't a show that they was going to carry on doing and that. It was just a way of saying we're going to have a chat.
>> No, but they did more episodes.
>> Yeah, but it was only to launch Bashy's album, bro.
>> There's more than one.
>> Yeah, but it was to launch Bashy's album.
>> Don't matter.
>> It To me, I think that it does.
>> Don't matter, bro.
>> Good morning, people them.
Rasnado here from the Reasoning Podcast.
Yeah, I'm here taking my son to school in the morning. You know how we do it.
Keep it righteous.
Now, I got a few messages yesterday about um someone sent me some footage.
Couple people GRM Daily and Bashy have now got It's not It's not a podcast, but it's where they sit down and discuss called The Reasoning.
Now, I wasn't going to say anything because you know people like to talk about all this stuff about uh Birmingham always say that London hate on them and stole their ideas. Then, obviously, my platform new and it I'm starting out. Obviously, there's no way I can talk to GRM Daily and Bashy and it I'm just a young black brother doing my thing, starting out. So, tell me why these [ __ ] old geezers now, yeah, yeah, would would make something called The Reasoning. Yeah, I'm calling you pussyoles cuz that's what you are.
>> I think you don't You have to look You have to know. It don't matter because I can tell [clears throat] you now, if you type that in now, yeah, that comes at the top all now.
>> Yeah, but >> No, bro.
>> No, but >> Remember >> about it logically, though.
>> No, go on. Go on. Go on. Go on.
>> Right. My logic behind it is this here.
Now, because I'm I'm respecting a lot of things you're saying, bro.
>> You talk.
>> I think you're right with a lot of things you're saying, yeah. But this one here, I think it was just a case of brother, if you're a Caribbean person, the reason a reasoning just means holding a myth, bro, holding a chat.
>> Nah, bro.
>> Just having a conversation or chopping it up.
>> I'm old school. I do with pirating. It's a big thing.
>> But he could get me >> No, no, no. You don't, brother. Listen to me, bro. Listen to me.
>> Go on. Land and then I'll I'll I'll chat.
>> This is called Hennessy, bro.
>> Yeah.
>> I am not calling my drink Hennessy. I don't care.
>> No, but that's different.
>> Why?
>> Because that's actually a brand that is made for that specific thing.
>> So, you see it now?
>> Yeah.
>> What do you mean it's not?
>> No, Hennessy is made by someone that decided to call their drink Hennessy.
>> Yeah, and I've got >> It's cognac.
>> And and I I >> But it's Hennessy.
>> I didn't call them bigger.
>> That's a brand.
>> saying. No, but that's a saying.
Bigger's a saying. It's a word.
>> if someone If someone else makes a bigger drink, what are you saying that they say a copy in the mix?
>> Yeah, of course they are. Because that's a saying.
>> But when's bigger used, though, in what terms?
>> What do you mean?
>> Like in It's a saying, but when did you >> bigger as a bigger man, bigger. That's how it's been done.
>> You can get it as a size four, bigger.
>> Nah, man. No, big "a" with a "e", bro.
Not big "er". Big "a". You understand?
You understand? So, it's big "er", innit? Cuz it's a big "a", not big "er".
Yeah, big "er" man, big "er" man thing, big "er" boy thing, big "er". It's a big "er" on a big "er" level. It's big "er".
The drink's big "er". They're saying their thing's big "er". Then anything's big "er". You get me? I'm saying the same. So, hear what now? If you come now and call that big "er", bro, why are you calling it big "er" for, bro?
>> No, I get that.
>> Of all the names in the world, bro, yeah? I don't care. If you The only thing you can say to me is this now.
This is when This is when you Yeah, you're a battery man now. Yeah?
Yeah, this is when you're a battery boy to me now. If you're saying, yeah, because because you're not known cuz you know they call you a bigger entity. So, straight there. You don't respect me because my thing's not as big as yours.
Cuz that's all it was, really. You get me?
>> OH, WAIT.
>> [laughter] >> YOU KNOW WHO I AM.
YOU DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM. YOU'VE SEEN ME GO VIRAL. I WENT VIRAL the week before with Tricky. Don't forget, you know. We went viral. So, the whole internet was blowing up. So, everybody's seen my podcast and my name. Yeah?
Bro, it doesn't matter if you got three episodes coming out, bro. If you've seen that somewhere before, why the hell would you use that, bro?
Big man thing.
Why would you do that?
>> Me, personally, >> Unless Unless you're being arrogant, yeah, and you're thinking, "You know what, bro?
I'm me. Yeah, I know my level. Yeah."
Bro, I don't deal with that, bro. You mad? I'll mash you up, bro. Don't do that to me.
>> that's true. You're Are you mad? That's disrespectful now. Two things Two things can be right in the same place though.
You know that, innit?
Two Bro, two Two things can be right at the same time, bro.
Two things can be right at the same time. You could You could You could make that show as a one-off and not think it's colliding with your brand.
>> Mhm.
>> That's That's what I'd think if I was Bashy, bro.
>> What?
>> I'd think I'm going to call it The Reasoning cuz we're just holding a reasoning and it wouldn't affect your thing. You know what I'm saying?
>> Yeah, but you know what it is? No, you're going to affect my thing. Guess what? You're going to affect my thing.
>> Cuz you're on a bad SEO.
You're on a bad search SEO.
>> Yes, bro.
>> Yeah, but I don't think it's If they carried on doing it, I think then, >> You got >> there, bro. You know what I'm saying? Do you know what I'm saying? You have to type it in now.
>> No, I'm not. I still watched it. I've watched it. I saw the whole thing.
>> type it in now and see what comes up at the top or now.
>> No, no, I believe that. I believe that.
I believe that.
>> no, so that means if I send So, if I send someone now, SO IF I TELL you now to go and watch The Reasoning, their thing is going to come up first, you know what I'm saying? You're probably all going to click theirs and not even click mine.
>> The reason I asked is cuz >> My bad. It's the same thing.
>> Wait, I'm lost, you know?
SO, I CAN'T SO, COME ON, MAN. I can't tell you now where to go and look at my THING NOW. YOU'RE GOING to go and click that.
>> Yeah, it's true.
>> BATMAN.
>> WHAT'S [laughter] THAT?
WHAT'S THAT, BRO?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT MAN COME FROM, FAM. BUT I'M TELLING YOU.
>> YEAH, I KNOW.
>> BRO, WHERE I'M FROM, BRO.
>> People don't know what I would tell a man, yeah, go to my podcast, Real Talk.
>> Man, that's a podcast tomorrow. Real Talk tomorrow.
>> No, but bro, there's bears. There's bears, Real Talk.
>> Bro, there.
>> There's loads of true stories.
>> Stormzy, Stormzy, say [ __ ] in his songs now. It's Stormzy came to my room and made a podcast called Real Talk True Stories. You are going to be pissed, pissed, bro.
>> But But Stormzy would know, man, enough to to know that it's a copy.
>> that, bro.
>> I'm saying yeah.
>> to say >> I'm saying the scenario >> I'm saying say if he did do it. Forget he knows yeah. That's in reality. This isn't Say if in Get me? Say if Stormzy tomorrow cuz he's a big I'm saying that cuz he's bigger than >> he's big.
>> And he said Real Talk, exact same words, Real Talk. And then when people go into your search engine here, his thing comes up at the top.
>> audio, man? 100%.
>> But I think it's different still, though.
>> You get me? What I will say is this is what I could have done better >> I was the way I reacted.
>> I agree.
>> You get me? On a big man level now.
That's where That's where I want to Even now, Justin, when I was flipped then and said I'm a madman now. Obviously, >> No, bro, don't apologize for >> No, no, no, no, no, no. No, I'm not apologizing. I'm saying them things are going to come out here because it's Who to say it's coming back to me? You get me? Cuz that's That's how I felt at the time.
>> Yeah, triggered.
>> So, you see, I'm still triggered, bro, because bro, that was a serious thing to me.
Bro, that's Bro, that's my baby, bro. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M DO YOU KNOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE REASONING IT BUILT? THE REASONING WAS BUILT a prison cell, fam. Yeah, when I was at my lowest, bro, >> and with nowhere to turn. Yeah, bro, don't play with me, bro. You're mad. I was in a dark place. I wasn't I wasn't in no gardens with jewels on and all that, brother. You understand? My team is serious, fam.
>> But I do believe I do believe I do believe that the the example you're using is still way different. I truly believe it, bro.
>> And you know what else? What what else Let me tell you Let me Let me tell you Let me tell you what else what I did wrong what I did wrong and I've not done this yet and I I do need to apologize for this.
Because I thought it was fully Postie's thing.
>> That's Bashy's.
>> It's Bashy's.
>> Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
>> So the the the the car Postie's was there and it was and obviously it was posted on there.
They they Yeah, I know obviously the link you get what I'm trying to say to you. So >> Kano >> Even before I said another podcast I apologized to Postie for that stupid car. I sent it straight out to him. You get me?
Yeah, G R M and I shouldn't have done that stupid car. That That was me just really car what I'm seeing I'm thinking wait there everyone's on there. What's going on here?
You get what I'm trying to say to you?
And obviously the way I reacted at the time I could have dealt with it better.
>> But see have you listened to Bashy's album? Be honest. Honestly.
>> Don't think I don't rate Bashy.
>> No no no don't No I'm not saying you DON'T RATE HIM. BUT I'M NOT DOING THAT.
I'm not >> I don't rate Bashy.
>> I'm just asking you if you specifically that album.
>> Yes, bro.
>> Do you hear >> Trust me.
>> hear the the >> Bro, I hear the the growth everything, bro. The where is the perspective where Bashy is coming from, bro? Yeah. Is every black male around that time who's Caribbean who's Caribbean who was living in this country, bro. It's universal.
>> It's a very winter >> the emotion of it, bro. This is how you know my music, man. I'm not talking rubbish, man. I'm not My man, yeah, how he attacks that album how he the angle he comes from on that album, bro.
You can close your eyes, you can remember back to when you was a youth, man, in school going through what he's saying, going on the bus with your fake [clears throat] bus pass, with your this that, linking that girl at school, thinking about her, rubbing out the number. This is the kind of angle where waking up in the morning smelling your mom's Sunday dinner. That's what wakes up in the morning. Brother, this guy bro, yeah, He's a serious person from our culture, bro. Are you mad, Bashy, bro?
Are you mad? Don't don't ever think, bro, that it's anything personal.
>> [laughter] >> At the time, yeah. You get me? I had to address it because of this Like I said, because of them man, you're a bigger entity than me, bro. There was no way I could have sit down there, bro, yeah, and not [clears throat] make no noise.
And say something at least. Like I said, bro, yeah, sometimes you get me.
You know, man's got ADHD. I'm from the road side as well. So, it comes out. You get me? You get me? It comes out. You get me? It comes out when I flick, bro.
It got his roots. It's a feeling. But but really and truly, I got love in my heart, you get me? And I acknowledge everything what these kind of guys do.
Like people like Bashy, bro. I used to listen to Bashy Chopper Chopper mix and all that. It's them kind of man why I started them, see? Come on, bro. Before the um Eskimo Dance Fan.
>> Yeah, the reason why I even asked you if you listened to it was because really and truly Bashy is probably like hearing from his uncle talking to his dad, "Let's hold a reason and bro, let's chat."
And it's a terminology that comes. And you're Jamaican, right?
>> Proper yard man.
>> I think there's a mix I think it went like that when it could have gone like that. Do you know what I'm trying to say?
That's what I think.
I get you though.
disregarded it.
>> But I don't think it was done on purpose. I think it was done and then when I think by the time man I probably was sitting and I was saying something.
>> Yeah, by then it's like But now that's the truth cuz he didn't understand.
Yeah.
>> [laughter] >> This is good now though.
You're you're in London now with the Cheeky podcast. You get the hype, the Jerry Springer [ __ ] The streets watch us. You get it.
It's good. It's good.
No, but it's It's that we have this chat.
>> Because you know what it is? I'm with you on the industry [ __ ] bro. The industry, ban the industry. Man don't even care about the industry furthermore.
>> Us going to the gala is a blessing because it's like why not? We're invited.
>> Yeah, it was good. We had a fun.
>> I like the gala. I like suits.
>> No, but check it out.
But same way, let me tell you something, bro. The industry, when I when I sat down with Styles P only the only blogs that posted me were the raw ones from the ends, like Live by the Rules, Fashion Concept, and Audio Saviors. There's bare blogs that do you know what they done? They posted his interview with Bag Fuel instead of mine on the same day.
>> Because he's more industry.
>> No, because it's my block out my man's one. Not because I'm more industry.
Let's put the light on that.
>> Yeah, because that guy probably more is probably more When I mean industry is more tailored to what they You know what I mean?
>> We're not industry.
Man Man are ready to just chat about anything raw. You get it?
>> Like Bobby Kasanga and that. We're ready to chat about Bobby.
>> Straight.
>> Raw.
>> Now >> See, this is the thing about us, yeah?
Listen.
>> Now >> Now listen, let me tell you what it is.
I like when you go on your rants, bro, yeah? That is It was only the reasoning one that I felt I was going to ring you.
I should have rang you. But I was going to see if I could maybe put you and Bashy on the phone or something. But I thought that I'm busy.
You know what I mean? We've got Nasty Jack.
>> NJ Fever, my brother, YOU KNOW?
>> I'M A RUDE BOY.
>> WHEN NJ FEVER >> NASTY JACK, IF YOU'RE WATCHING this year, I feel like he took a bit of offense as well. I'm not going to lie.
No, no, because when he messaged me now and said, "I'M A YO, YOU'RE MAD. YOU CAN'T TELL ME NOTHING." [laughter] >> HE'S A MAD GUY, THOUGH.
>> WHO'S THE RAS TALKING TO LIKE THIS?
Thought I'm like >> Nah, but he's all right. He'll be all right.
He'll be all right. He'll be all right.
>> I ain't really heard from him since, BUT NASTY JACK >> [laughter] >> RESPECT HIM FROM BACK IN THE DAY OBVIOUSLY AND I respect the way how he tried to meet him. He was doing that thing. I thought I think he said by the time he spoke to him actually he said no I don't want to chat to him.
Too late.
Man this way you know it's Bashy if you watching this right now my brother.
It's all love. I miss all love you understand.
You know what I'm on the podcast. You understand? VIP pass we doing a whole vlog of the tour and you understand? Make it right kind of you know what I'm saying. You over this.
In the industry it's crap anyway bro. I don't My point is yeah. Industry is on with my like Tom's. We don't do with that you know what Bashy my guy you know. No that's my brother.
Bashy's proper but Tom's you understand my situation though and it was a temporary show. But it's all love though.
YEAH HE DIDN'T MEAN IT. HE DIDN'T MEAN IT. HE DIDN'T MEAN IT. HE DIDN'T mean it. Like I said man.
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