The Shame: Gravy Baby Ep 167

Ajouté : 2026-05-31

[00:00:13]Baby, baby, baby.

[00:00:22]>> Baby, >> folks, you know, we don't normally ask you much. We don't ask much of you, but if you would be so kind, go to the Apple podcast and give us a fivestar review.

[00:00:33]And when you're in that review, when you're reviewing us, make sure you include if it not only be to tell Drew to stop smoking. I think the more reviews we get cuz he won't be able to not look at it. And then the more verbal barrage we can get, the more shame this man can take, I feel like we can make a bit of a difference. So, not only will you help the podcast, but you also help one of our uh beloved hosts um be a better person. So, be there for us.

[00:01:02]And I, you know, again, we don't ask much of you, but this is all I'm asking.

[00:01:06]Please go make a make a review and shame drew in that review.

[00:01:11]>> Just say >> exactly.

[00:01:15]>> Where we start right now?

[00:01:17]>> Sure.

[00:01:19]Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to appreciate one another. Appreciate what we've been given. Appreciate >> the the good and the bad and everything. The journey really is what we're what we've been gathered to promoting now the journey.

[00:01:46]>> Promoting the journey. We're promoting the journey.

[00:01:49]>> Be grateful for the journey.

[00:01:51]>> Yes. Live in the journey. Live in the journey. Live in your own journey. Get out of my you. What are you doing here?

[00:01:59]This is Welcome to >> No Shared Journey. Goddamn it. Everybody in their own lane.

[00:02:05]>> Hey, welcome. Welcome to Gravy, baby.

[00:02:07]You're on your own.

[00:02:11]>> You're on your own here, folks.

[00:02:16]That's wild coming from you. You've been the community man this whole time.

[00:02:20]>> Always am. Always always always will be a community man. So we are without a Drew Morgan today.

[00:02:30]>> Fans Drew >> probably somewhere behind some disgusting alley smoking them dirty cigarettes and being a fake just being doesn't care. Now that's the problem.

[00:02:42]>> Oh my god. TJ, should we do a shame cast? Should we just do one solid hour of shaming Drew for smoking?

[00:02:49]>> An hour is not enough for me. An hour is not enough for me.

[00:02:53]And like I said, it's not just smoking, guys, okay? There's lots of things to shame him for, but smoking. Yeah, of course.

[00:03:01]>> Cuz a shame to go around.

[00:03:04]>> And here's the and here's the main problem, right? Like you you don't care about yourself as a friend. You know what I'm saying? Like we and this is why I'm just done with the journey because >> my side of the boat. Okay. All the weight. All right. Okay. We sinking and you way up there. You know what I'm saying? Ly dog. We just want to dance. I got to dance. I gota I don't want a re.

[00:03:29]That's the first thing he does. Start letting out stipulations for a revolution. I can't I can't have a revolution if I don't dance. Well, dude, I'm How's that working out? Because I see a [ __ ] idiot on TV danc and I might be me. I might have PTSD, but every time I see [ __ ] old goddamn disco inferno and she doing this double ghost dick jack, I I think about Drew and I think this is what he wants. This is what Drew wants.

[00:03:57]>> He want He wants the YMCA. He wants the He wants the fist pumping in the air.

[00:04:02]>> Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't want a revolution. No. No. just wants to smoke cigarettes and dance.

[00:04:10]>> Smash cigarettes and dance.

[00:04:15]That's it. Tired of it. Tired of it.

[00:04:18]Tired of being the only one in this relationship.

[00:04:22]>> About the future. Because that's what a person saying when they all a sudden start smoking. They're just like, "Yeah, you know what?

[00:04:27]>> I don't care about the future.

[00:04:29]>> I don't care. And look, I'm over here sober, clean, getting my [ __ ] together, >> acutely aware of what's happening.

[00:04:36]>> [ __ ] >> eyes wide open.

[00:04:37]>> Yeah, wide open. Yeah. Yeah. Trying to, you know. Come on.

[00:04:42]>> I don't want I want to have I want to dance. I want to dance.

[00:04:50]>> Cat, what are you supposed to do?

[00:04:53]>> It's almost like he's he's preparing for all that we'll have left is dance, you know? So it's almost like he wants the same thing these tech uh the techronauts they want the end of the world right because then all you have left is dance there's no and to a tune that only you can hear you know shameful no rebellion there >> no rebellion what what a way to acquies so quickly >> yeah it's really giving up really is what it is since he's given up should be shame for it should You should be shame. Shame.

[00:05:31]>> He's got a turtle. Okay. Tattooed on him. What's it doing?

[00:05:36]>> Smoking a cigarette.

[00:05:38]>> Now, he might try to tell you it's a joint.

[00:05:41]>> He might try to tell you that.

[00:05:43]>> Oh. Oh, it's a joint. It's a It's marijuana.

[00:05:47]>> No, we know.

[00:05:48]>> I don't believe that.

[00:05:49]>> That's tobacco from Philip Morris.

[00:05:52]>> He can't even He can't even handle a joint. You know that's not him. You can't take him.

[00:05:59]>> He takes two puffs and he's a nightmare.

[00:06:01]You He can't. You know that's not a He's not perpetuating cannab cannabis lifestyle.

[00:06:06]>> No, he's not perpetuating the can. He the the tobacco the tobacco. Hey, listen. You keep on smoking. How much you you think you're going to be able to dance? Hold on. [ __ ] Starting.

[00:06:19]Yeah.

[00:06:22]He's not even going to be able to get through the electric part of the electric slide if he keeps smoking like that.

[00:06:28]>> No, he's not going to have anything.

[00:06:29]It's all going to go away.

[00:06:31]>> Really?

[00:06:31]>> He's going to lose it all. Just cigarettes.

[00:06:33]>> It's going to be the grim reaper shuffle for him.

[00:06:35]>> Yeah.

[00:06:37]>> No Cupid.

[00:06:38]>> No Cupid. So, what you been up to?

[00:06:42]>> I actually was um I was Oh, damn it. I had a question for you, but I was I was so caught up in the shame. We were having so much fun.

[00:06:52]>> That's good. We can keep it up. We can keep going. Believe me, I got I got more.

[00:06:57]Got so much more.

[00:06:59]>> Is this just shame or is this been bottled up stuff that you know has been unressed with with Drew Morgan?

[00:07:05]>> Well, some of it's grievances.

[00:07:08]>> These are my grievances.

[00:07:10]>> Right. Because I want better for him.

[00:07:12]See, what's happening is >> what's happening is he's shaming himself up.

[00:07:17]>> Yeah.

[00:07:17]>> You know what I'm saying? It's shameful.

[00:07:20]It's shameful.

[00:07:20]>> It's the It's the bring the horse to water but can't force him drink. Like he's You're watching him. You're watching him not drink like >> die first.

[00:07:30]>> Yeah, dude. Drink the [ __ ] water.

[00:07:32]>> Drink the goddamn water.

[00:07:34]>> Can't drink that water with that [ __ ] cigarette in your mouth.

[00:07:39]>> And also, do you want a baby that smells like cigarettes? Do you want a Denny's >> a Denny's line cook for for a child?

[00:07:46]Come on now. You don't want that.

[00:07:48]>> That is what he wants to. That's all he's ever wanted. That's all he ever talked about.

[00:07:54]>> That's all he's ever talking about. One day, Rozie, you just get on that [ __ ] >> line and [ __ ] get them Allstar breakfastes out there. That's all I want.

[00:08:04]>> Two heard. Two two moans over Miami Heard coming up quick.

[00:08:08]>> Yeah.

[00:08:09]>> Hash browns extra crispy.

[00:08:10]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:08:13]Bastard.

[00:08:15]Can't believe it. I can't believe this is happening. It feels like it's happening to me.

[00:08:19]>> I think it is.

[00:08:21]>> That's why >> in a roundabout way, it's happening to you.

[00:08:24]>> He's forcing this on you cuz you have to witness it. Isn't that the travesty?

[00:08:30]>> Yes.

[00:08:30]>> You have to watch him >> slowly die of thirst.

[00:08:35]>> Mhm.

[00:08:35]>> Yeah. See, I quit smoking cigarettes. I did before I was younger. He's older >> as a child. the only person I know who had a child and it started to start start pipping away.

[00:08:48]>> Quite the opposite what you would think.

[00:08:50]You would think you'd want to be around for your child, wouldn't you?

[00:08:54]>> Yeah. You think you'd want to be around for You don't want to be around for your your kids, for your friends, for nobody.

[00:09:01]>> The only time I'm on board with it is the Little Miss Sunshine situation when you're everybody's grown, everybody's accounted for, then heron.

[00:09:11]>> Yeah. Heroin. Heroin, >> whatever. Whatever floats your boat. If you fill your boat with heroin, get that heroin on a boat.

[00:09:22]>> But I wouldn't bring it on a sinking boat and dance on one end while the other part's underwater.

[00:09:27]>> That's exact.

[00:09:28]>> Just be considerate of the goddamn boat.

[00:09:30]Am I right, DJ? I mean, I feel like I'm not being out of line here, >> dude. 100%. You're You're killing it.

[00:09:36]Yes, that's exactly right.

[00:09:40]That's exactly right.

[00:09:43]I did want to ask you what you thought about that whole um the all the backstory with cuz I because Drew poo pooed on it immediately where it was like conspiracy theory blah blah blah whatever. But the whole uh Nicola Tesla claiming to have created time travel and then and then the this operative that was working or his neighbor that was working across the street from him being aware of what he was doing and writing a the book the book about the traveling Baron Trump, >> little Baron Trump. Mhm.

[00:10:26]>> And then um then that being placed throughout all of these like big events that have happened. Whereas there's one of the the third book in the trilogy. There's three books. The first two are just mainly him traveling with his dog, but the third one is called The Last President, where there's a timetraveling president that goes to another time and creates all this chaos and war and famine and is like the worst, most controversial president that's come to uh at the time and ruins life as we know it in this particular timeline.

[00:11:04]>> Mhm.

[00:11:05]And um I don't know. Are you up on that?

[00:11:09]You ever heard any of that?

[00:11:11]>> I feel like I'm talking about >> I feel like there's a lot of different things like that that you could point to like that just conspiratorial wise. And what happens is basically like you have these insulated pockets of whether it be academia institutions. We have insulated pockets of institutions, >> right? that and these institutions somehow sometimes have nefar there's like all kind of different go it's made up of different people scientists you know within the science community [ __ ] literature community they all kind of weave among each other right and so within these within these uh groups of people there are even smaller like secret societies you could call them or things like that or people who have a certain amount of idea and are kind of like on the same wavelength Like you can't really say like when people say the Epstein class, right? Like really what what what it what you should be talking with is like there is a level of like a few artists but mainly like tech and science people who are with politicians and like this kind of the billionaire class is one thing that's made of a diff of a when you talk about the ethine class you basically just talk about politicians and uh but that's just one anyway so that's one that's one group or syndicate of um secretive goings on that share the same idea. Right.

[00:12:38]>> Right. They share the sharing ideas and sharing thoughts and sharing this. So with this book that you're talking about with Tesla and all these other people and it being being put into other places, well this could be all thoughts.

[00:12:49]This could be a a kind of a a sort of a manifest destiny, right? where like if enough people with enough money and enough power keep on believing in something, then they should create that reality.

[00:13:03]>> Well, I feel like that's kind of this end of world thing. That's what these billionaires want is like this end of world situation. So, they're trying to siphon everything out as much and and they all agree. They all Peter Teal's like spread it around so much so that they're all they all want it the same thing. And when they have enough influence and power, it can happen. But this seems way more of like happen stance curiosity possible like you know what I'm saying like this could be um like I feel like this is just a theory because the people who are talking about it aren't rich aren't in a particular place of of uh I mean they killed Tesla so that's what I'm saying if they it would have been that they would have stolen his technology and then used it for themselves >> if they were if they were up on what his technology was what it meant and they were up to the point where they were ready to kill him and take his [ __ ] They knew what was up. They were a part of something. They were so they were a part of some sort of it's there was some sort of conspiracy involved in >> Yeah.

[00:14:06]>> So what that is and how relevant it is, I don't know >> because I always just thought it was he figured out how to wait for us to make our own electricity and that's not you can't control people if they have the means of making their own. I mean you can make your own Tesla coil in your backyard. you can generate your own electricity >> with like a basically a pedal and a bunch of copper core um around like you know it's possible >> obviously I don't have the the blueprints in front of me to give you all the deets but you can make your own Tesla coil so I was always under the impression that they killed him because they didn't want that going out they just the same like in um >> what year was this what year was this >> uh 1860s 1870 I think >> kind of a problem with that that whole >> it's like what was the energy market then like it was barely like too it surely wasn't [ __ ] based on oil like it is now to some degree yes but like you talking about steam engines and [ __ ] >> it's not necessarily the same thing like there there was probably an idea to have it patented or whatever >> but like I would I would think that like him alone maybe it not being just one thing not being just electric electricity or not being just like being able to harness all power >> but that's what I'm saying if I didn't like I didn't know about the time part if the time part I feel like that would be more reason to murder him like if he truly was able to to to say he had like figured out time travel >> I well I mean like regardless if you could or not somebody who's like already figuring out how to pull electricity out of the ground and like you know power their house and stuff with it like that's a threat. That's a threat to uh >> huge threat, right?

[00:15:57]>> Yeah. Yeah. So you're like oh the steel company, what's the next thing that this guy's going to rip from our >> So naturally murder him, but then it was like if it was something like larger, if there was something even bigger than that and then they steal it. They take the blueprints. They take all of that and then try to recreate what he did by you. You know, I mean, that's always been the other thing about it that I've never liked is they steal scientists under the guise of you are creating something. I mean, I feel like that's how most of the things that are awful end up happening, including AI. I feel like there was like a righteous uh scientist who's like, I want to be able to innovate and create something new and and make our lives easier. And then a piece of shit's like, "Oh, well, I could easily we could easily >> use that for us."

[00:16:48]>> If you don't believe that all this money that's going on Hubaloo, which who knows if they're going to make it or not >> about putting a a a base on the moon, like America is like shooting to put a base on the moon. If you don't believe that that is 100% for nefarious reasons, >> you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

[00:17:08]>> Yeah.

[00:17:09]>> It Now, they might not believe that it is. the people who are doing it, the scientists that they are doing it, they might admit that even if it's not, even if it's intended right now for somebody, it's going to be used for war.

[00:17:21]>> But that's the part you can't be so smart. You can't be a [ __ ] astrophysicist slashengineer SL and not be like, "Oh, the person who's paying me to do this is a piece of shit." You know what I'm saying? Like regardless, there's plenty of people out there like that.

[00:17:39]There's there's so many people out there like that.

[00:17:44]>> Oh, like so what is the mentality then?

[00:17:47]That either you're for it or you think that you can take the money from this corrupt place and do something good with it, right?

[00:17:54]>> Or you just believe that you're doing something good because everybody around you is doing something good.

[00:18:01]>> But now where it ends up, you know what I'm saying? That's a totally people who I guarantee most like biologists they don't work on like you know pathogens and vaccines and stuff because if they believe you know what it's a it's a it's a during >> Yeah. They just don't want people to be sick. Yeah. I want to I want to figure out a way to Yeah.

[00:18:26]>> They don't know that shit's going to get weaponized and [ __ ] I mean some of them do. A couple of them do. But like for the most part no man I I I don't think so. I think the same thing goes with like because I like I know I know some like people who are really into rocket science and listen dude if that's your if if that's your [ __ ] thing actually [ __ ] Shayen works for [ __ ] NASA so it's like >> uh that uh so it's like I'm not saying that they're bad or like what they're what they're that that those people individual I mean hell they got a job that they're super interested in making rockets and maybe just making rockets is what matters. maybe just making maybe just figuring it out. I mean, honestly, I mean, if you really want to get real conspiratorial about it, uh they're basically, in my opinion, trying to figure out how to live, you know, off the earth because, you know, they're going to kill the earth, you know. So, >> yeah, that's my point. That's why that's why all of them are pushing for this end ofear situation, siphoning all the resources, you know, basically running the earth into the ground. Huh.

[00:19:27]>> Yeah. Yeah, but these are just you're you're mainly just talking about the West like Europeans and Americans and like like the West the the colonial West is who you're talking the rest of the world doesn't feel like that, dude.

[00:19:38]These [ __ ] idiots don't have >> but they're trying to do that now. Teal is already buying up the data of the UK and all this other [ __ ] and they're [ __ ] letting him.

[00:19:46]>> [ __ ] The UK is [ __ ] Europe's [ __ ] They're [ __ ] They're [ __ ] They're [ __ ] They're They're [ __ ] And they are us. We are them. We are Israel.

[00:19:55]Israel. this whole western colonial this entire colonial thing that's been going on since like col colonial spa Spain, you know what I'm saying? Even beyond this whole European o owning the world and the maritime trades and the [ __ ] this colonial [ __ ] mindset that's imperial [ __ ] where they run the banks and they run the seas and they run that's done.

[00:20:22]Well, I mean, yeah, why why wouldn't you once you once you finally organize yourself enough to be able to rebel against it, why wouldn't everybody I mean, to me, that's the real world war is everybody that doesn't want this anymore. And this old mentality, this old imperialistic mentality trying desperately to keep it, you know, that's why you got >> Yeah, that's the why Korea is like, "All right, I guess I'll give Russia a shot."

[00:20:47]You know, like I mean, >> yeah, I >> you be insane not to. You don't have to be pro-Russian or pro-Chinese.

[00:20:55]>> No, you don't. You just have to be pro keeping your people alive.

[00:20:58]>> Yeah, dude. You get the [ __ ] out of there because not only will America [ __ ] sell you the [ __ ] out and sell all your people out and [ __ ] leave you hanging dry. They will they will bleed all your resources dry. I mean, what they've done to Europe alone and the fact that Europe in UK, EU, the fact that they continue to be lap dogs after like, you know, [ __ ] selling them weapons that we don't have with money that doesn't exist for them. They're going to pull all that healthc care [ __ ] that they had over there. All those all those social programs gone. They gonna take that from all them folks. You get what I'm saying? Well, not only that, but >> but not only that, but then they're [ __ ] they're using all of those and and and stealing all of the medical data. That's what that's what Palanteer is doing is they're taking all the medical data. They're taking >> Yeah. Oracle, too. Yeah.

[00:21:50]>> So, they're just they they it's almost like they implemented the programs that the people wanted only to steal more from them.

[00:21:59]>> Yeah. And people want it. Look, I mean, listen, I hate to talk about it again because we talked about it last week.

[00:22:04]>> Oh, my bad. I wasn't here.

[00:22:06]>> No, no, no, no, no. Know what I'm about to talk about. I was talking about Massie. I was talking about the Massie thing. It's like people don't want a Massie. They want to They don't They don't [ __ ] I don't I don't believe I don't believe on either side. I I I believe that for the most part, those Kuckians, they wanted that guy that they got. They didn't want They didn't They didn't want uh They don't think Mass is good. It's the same way of when the Democrats like when you would see people standing up for genocide and Democrats would be like, "Fuck you. Not Cy Booker." And I keep talking about Tory Booker and Jamal Bowman both lost their races. The most of America wants to be in an imperial state and just wants to vote. They just want to they want they want to attack each. They want to >> Well, they also they also much like anytime we even get close to socialism in any way, they they try to snuff it out. That's why Hassan [ __ ] was making good headway and now he's being subpoenaed. Same kind of [ __ ] Like now there's like >> subpoenaed or is that just a weird Fox News thing that they just made up?

[00:23:05]>> I mean I don't know. He hasn't gotten any documentation but it's all over the [ __ ] I don't know >> real anymore. I dude I had to stop listening.

[00:23:14]>> It's like turn it all off. Yeah.

[00:23:17]>> I had to turn it all off. I had I'm sorry. I I I not not that I don't think like I'm sure it might be serious or whatever, but because like the media has become this like there's so and and the politicians and the media stars and everybody and I'm not holding this against Assan. I'm not holding this against saying like >> No, no, I get what you're saying, but it's just this like tumble dryer of just >> he's the thing you're talking about is the reason people listen to him. the thing you're talking about.

[00:23:47]>> I listen to him, too. But I'm saying this media [ __ ] is why people went to independent media as it is. Is because I can't trust I can't trust that this is that he's being subpoenaed or not being subpoenaed, you know? And now he just has to be like, "Okay, well, I guess these major media outlets are saying that I'm in trouble, but I haven't been given any official documentation, so I guess I'm not." like that that whole thing is like they're so desperate to keep imperialism and that's this is a both sides thing. They're so desperate to keep it that they want to they want the people who have the the values and the um the mentality of where people >> Yeah. What?

[00:24:29]>> Well, no. I was gonna say you could bet one thing that goddamn [ __ ] the Democrats would not be [ __ ] making no slush fund for Hassan. the Democrat like they did like the Republicans did for the J6ers. You better believe one thing.

[00:24:43]If you on the left and the and the and you are any kind of threat to you, they will hang you out to dry and die.

[00:24:51]>> That's why we're in the situation we're in cuz they don't give they don't take care of their own. It's the That's the [ __ ] problem.

[00:24:58]>> That's the [ __ ] problem.

[00:25:00]>> Cuz he should be be put he should be getting pushed. She should be getting backed by these old [ __ ] where if the young people don't want an old man in there, you should be backing young people who are saying the things. I mean, >> that's I was talking this weekend and we were kind of like which we had this really cool experience by the way. It was great. Kevin was always amazing. But uh uh that I was having a same same almost same conversation with everybody and they were bringing up to me brand platform and they were bringing I was like, "Dude, you just brought up like four people." You know what I'm saying?

[00:25:32]like like out of the Democratic party like you just named like four people >> like what do you think that they're going to do?

[00:25:40]>> Like yeah say they're going to be in jail with us. What are you talking about?

[00:25:45]You're going to be locked up with them.

[00:25:47]Like what are they going to do? What they going to do? Hopefully they do something and can create a blueprint for their area. But you know if it goes the way that everyone kind of feels like it's going to go then they're [ __ ] too. Yeah. I don't know man. I feel like with there with enough densely populated area, it might just we might start being the ununited states. Does that make sense? Like where you're going to have on once you see like especially like what's happening with New York and it thriving and it doing well even though they've been they've been told for the last I don't know 25 years that if you raise taxes in New York that that every like everybody's going to leave. It hasn't happened. They've gotten the money. They they went from a they they have a zero deficit. Like and I think there's just going to be pockets of that. Like there's a couple of people uh Democratic socialists that won in Pennsylvania. I think we're just going to end up having pockets of people living like this and then the rest of the country not. I mean >> I mean that will happen for maybe for a little bit, but like that's not that's not anything that can be that cannot that's not sustainable. That's not sustainable.

[00:26:56]But they would be independently sustainable.

[00:26:58]>> They would get [ __ ] tanks rolled up on them and [ __ ] load out of their goddamn house. What are you talking about? Like that's crazy.

[00:27:06]>> The other thing about that is most [ __ ] police forces have military level [ __ ] though.

[00:27:12]>> I mean they do in LA.

[00:27:16]>> You don't think I mean I saw I saw LAPD tanks roll up on us when we were protesting in Los Angeles. I'm not talking about >> LAPD tapes. Oh, >> I'm talking about like like you know people in the middle of the street with like you know drones and like [ __ ] gas and I mean I'm saying the like gas gas I'm saying they will kill you. I'm saying they will kill you. I believe that the major goal is to kill the majority of us anyways. You know what I'm saying? So that's kind of like where I'm at with it. I just think that electoral politics are it's it's a it's done. It's gone.

[00:27:55]>> Sure.

[00:27:57]>> I don't think you're going to have pockets of it for a while, but then what you'll have what you'll have are pockets of communities which disassociate from the entire government. Like I I used to I used to uh follow this uh they were rad as [ __ ] these anarchists out of Ukraine >> who were basically like they were running their own farm and they were you know hung they were you know they're badass [ __ ] and they were uh they were fighting both Ukraine army they were fighting the Ukraine army the the the the uh the police and the and the and the [ __ ] what do they call them the natur the snatchers the uh the enlistment or whatever snatching they were fighting them and they were fighting Russia so from this plane that they were in dude it was Crazy. It was crazy. They had a dude the day that they let go of all their horses and [ __ ] Like they're basically starting to get encroached on. I watched this from Instagram which was what still one of the craziest things I've ever [ __ ] been involved with. It's like Yeah. Just liking it. But like being emotionally involved in this [ __ ] in this homestead these uh just for a couple years too, dude. Just watching them. Um which was really weird because just end up on a [ __ ] Ukrainian anarchist [ __ ] >> Yeah. you know, had a homestead in Ukraine. It was [ __ ] But it was sad as [ __ ] They had to let go of all their dogs and I mean all their horses and donkeys and like because they were getting crushed on by both sides and they're probably all dead. But that's how I imagine most of it's going to be when when our time comes to pick up the torch.

[00:29:29]But I just feel like at least the longest because I mean that's I think that's why um you know >> to go. You don't think they'll be the first to go?

[00:29:41]>> No. I mean if that was the case then how come how come ICE avoids those areas?

[00:29:45]How come like I feel like that's going to be like oh these are big problem areas. We're going to have to go recruit and come back. That's like if as far as war tactics go, you're going to need to be reinforced to go in there because because of the the resistance being stronger. And I feel like if you have a densely populated like radicalized group of like like a New York City, New York City would be really hard to [ __ ] with unless you bombed them. Unless you just bombed them.

[00:30:12]>> What do you think they going to do? They going to goddamn [ __ ] out of you.

[00:30:17]>> What are they going to govern then?

[00:30:19]There's there will be no people to govern.

[00:30:21]>> They don't want to govern people. They want to murder people.

[00:30:26]They don't want you alive.

[00:30:29]>> Then what how are they going to make money if this if this whole thing is for money?

[00:30:34]>> Whoever's left, it's not about money.

[00:30:36]What is even money? What what that's that's a crazy thing. Okay. So So money isn't even when you get into like multi-billions of dollars. Money doesn't even exist. our entire as as we have already seen our entire stock market S&P whatever it is it's vapors that shit's vapors that [ __ ] not to say that it is just like law not to say that doesn't have a consequence or whatever but like it really is like it looks to be a pretty [ __ ] massive >> at the end of the day these guys just want to repopulate the earth but nobody wants to [ __ ] them >> of Of course, >> that's it.

[00:31:18]>> At some point in time, there's going to have to be like a new government and like I'm not saying that they're going to get away with all stuff that that we're just we're just >> Yeah, we're just spitballing here. Yeah.

[00:31:29]>> I I'm not I I don't believe that they could get away with all that.

[00:31:32]I don't I I don't believe that they'll that that they will even have uh half the resources that they believe that they would have because I just don't believe that people will fall into it. But that doesn't mean that people won't fight against people. I mean in my it's so so even if we're not fighting the government, fighting ourselves is going to be I mean it looks this is what it looks to me like you got tech oligarchs and people here who want who have this vision of a technocracy which is run by like a CEO and everything is AI and automated and everything's like you know real they got a real futuristic but they they they don't have they have they don't really have any creativity or anything. I mean, they're able to like read code and do things and kind of imagine outside of like I don't know, your head's populated with like crazy science fiction and like which is all >> which is all distorted and all stuff.

[00:32:36]>> Uh but uh >> I mean that's that's how they sold it to begin with, >> right? Right.

[00:32:42]>> They sold something that didn't even exist. They sold science fiction.

[00:32:46]>> Yeah.

[00:32:47]Yeah. She got a bird.

[00:32:50]Uh oh.

[00:32:52]>> Yeah.

[00:32:53]>> Who got a bird?

[00:32:55]Make sure y'all are watching on you on YouTube.

[00:32:59]I try to get it.

[00:33:00]>> Barcat got her bird.

[00:33:06]>> Let the bird go. Let the bird free. Hey, let's free the bird. Can we free the bird?

[00:33:11]>> You You eat inside. You don't got to do that.

[00:33:15]>> Hey, bird.

[00:33:16]>> Oh, I got him out.

[00:33:20]You heard it here first, folks. DJ just saved a bird. Not a drone, not to be confused with a drone.

[00:33:26]>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, dude, I think I think Russia uh I think Russia, China, uh I'll do brick. Well, I don't think Bricks exist. I don't know if Brit.

[00:33:40]But those those three places right there, Iran, uh that they will watch us tear each other apart. They will buy up the majority of it and then whatever then a new government will come. That's that's 100% what I think is gonna happen.

[00:33:54]>> What's that?

[00:33:56]>> I just like >> this being owned by any kind of tech billionaire make maybe but they live somewhere else. You know what I'm saying?

[00:34:05]>> Of course. Yeah. But they're already selling off they're selling off farmland and not not like Bill G like to to to China to India to to Qatar to Qatar owns a bunch of our of our do I mean this is a fire cell right now. It's going going going >> so >> and then whatever's left we'll just have to pay rent to Black Rockck for >> I it I bet Black Rockck doesn't make it through this. And when I say this, I'm talking like on a 20 20 30 year 40 year scale what I see like a timeline like a >> like a through line which just happens incre inc incrementally is like >> because that's the whole thing. I mean we've talked about it before but that's the whole thing is the only thing they're worried about is getting somebody that's not going to kill them to guard the bunkers or whatever. But I'm saying once you get out of the bunkers, none of these dudes have seemingly any other discernable skills.

[00:35:01]Like they're posers. So then what what do you do if most people are dead and you come out?

[00:35:12]Then what >> if your goal if your goal is to absorb all the wealth from like the working class, us, >> right? If the top 1% it's less than that like nine people if their entire [ __ ] goal is to accumulate and absorb as much wealth as they can from us then depopulate >> depopulate America right what they will do would be like they would hire people from Libya from other places to come and be working >> to rebuild But you don't think people would be like, "Fuck you." I mean, if if there's there's such an anti-colonialism movement happening around the world right now, like, why would they even do that? Why you don't think they would say, "Fuck you."

[00:36:05]>> Cuz they know what it is. They know what it's for.

[00:36:08]>> I I think like I think I think humans are humans. And just like all of a sudden, we're all like I mean, take think about it. We fought with Russia.

[00:36:21]This is side by side with Russia against Germany and Japan.

[00:36:26]Who are two of our greatest allies right now?

[00:36:29]Germany and Japan. Who's our enemy?

[00:36:32]Russia, right? So, it's like, dude, things are history has a way of history and a collective a collective desire. You know what I mean? like unusual >> conver will will make you look past a lot of different things.

[00:36:52]>> I mean obviously >> I mean >> you know what I mean like >> I feel like the the the whole notion of history repeating itself. It this doesn't feel like that. This feels like them copying history and doing it over again versus it happening. Yeah. I would say that this feels totally [ __ ] new to me. And I think from my >> the the details, but the same the the way to control like all of this stuff.

[00:37:24]This is all like textbook World War II [ __ ] >> dude. Again, and we talked about this last week, but I bring it up again. The way >> My god, this is crazy that I keep bringing up stuff that you guys talked about. the the way that Xiinping uh the Chinese guy Chinese is he the president? We still haven't figured that out. Uh the way uh the way that he sat Trump down and talked to him was one of the most incredible unbelievable things.

[00:38:01]And and I I mean this and I'm being honest about this. That was one of the most incredible things I've I've ever seen in my life. And I don't think he probably didn't pick up on a lot. A lot of analysts have picked up on it, but like they he basically looked Trump in the eye and said, "Listen, your empire is falling. Ours is rising." Throughout time, there's always been a situation where the falling empire goes against the the big uh or the the the rising empire, >> right? Rising empire, and they get smoked. You know what I mean? You don't want these hands, Trump. You don't want these hands. Now, let's figure out a way to manage your crisises, all your multiple crisis. Let's figure out how to manage your way out of this and get [ __ ] commerce going back again and everything. And they took him to look at some old ass trees because he went and showed him some [ __ ] trees that was older than [ __ ] we're over 250. He went out there showed him some goddamn 400 year old trees. So your [ __ ] ain't [ __ ] We done been through this and now we're back on top. We were the the [ __ ] we were we were the [ __ ] before and now we're not. But now we're back.

[00:39:14]You know what I'm saying? Then we weren't. Now we're back. You know what I'm saying? We had our century of humiliation and now we're back. And guess what? That's what's happened to you, buddy. because it's happened, you know, through time, >> every just about every empire. I mean, it's also just that the empire [ __ ] is just cyclical.

[00:39:31]>> Yeah, that's >> no nobody stated.

[00:39:33]>> And that's why China says they don't have an imperial they don't have any imperial desires, but like who knows?

[00:39:40]It's not like, you know, it's a government. [ __ ] them. But >> yeah, they all Yeah, all of them. Yeah, >> all of them. But like uh but like uh it is it is wild to see that like it's unbelievable. Like it's like I don't I don't think you've ever had a a chance like on the the level of like historical which we've seen a lot of history in our time.

[00:40:08]Yeah. I've never seen a president a president of the United States just get shook down like that. I mean bow down like that. just get told and then immediately when Trump gets back he's texting uh he didn't mean uh failing empire while I was in charge he mean when they was in charge he said we're the hardest country that's ever been like it disturbed him so much that as soon as he landed he had to send out a true self >> I mean it was unbelievable truly >> like he was because he was because he was shook because that that was somebody who was actually in power it wasn't >> a proper a proper it wasn't a proper puppet it wasn't techie puppet.

[00:40:45]>> That's right. That's right. A [ __ ] who had all the cards. I think when he goes and talks to Putin and [ __ ] like that, you think he's kind of like seeing a man who's also like on the ropes. They kind of have a mutual understanding about some something. I don't know what but like uh but like there is a kind of like they're almost on the same page but what what what's different is that they've got China behind them. You know what I'm saying? We've got nothing.

[00:41:19]>> Yeah. We're we're all we can do is take Europe and everybody else who wants to hook up to our boat down with us. That's that's the only thing do.

[00:41:28]>> It's crazy.

[00:41:30]It's crazy, man.

[00:41:32]>> It's just also it's als it's so hard to not land anti-American because you've just seen it. Speaking of history, we've just seen us doing this being in the making for so long, >> you know?

[00:41:48]>> Yeah.

[00:41:49]>> Us like the the the campaign to sh do every opportunity to siphon as much as we can out of China while shooting on it. doing the same thing to South America, like doing the same thing to Africa, doing the same thing to um >> to you know, Northern Africa, East Asia, like all of it. All of it.

[00:42:12]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:42:14]>> Yeah. I think Africa I I believe Africa will be >> I see that's what I was thinking it would be the next contender. They are so rich in resources and being able to be like, "Fuck you. These are these are mine. You're no longer getting them."

[00:42:28]>> If they can get France Yeah, for sure.

[00:42:31]>> Yeah. If they can get France and [ __ ] and America and like if they get the West out of theirs and like start building like for some like like nuclear power or something like that, dude, they can get on top of [ __ ] dude. They I mean, I really do feel like they they got it.

[00:42:46]>> And what a way for the people who are are linked up to us now. this the sinking ship that you're referring to.

[00:42:53]What a great way to atone for your French colonialism, all of that, to be like, "Oh, okay. I'm here. I'm for you.

[00:43:02]I support you now on this new this new rising empire." You know what I'm saying? If if it's anti-colonialism, the only way you get to you get to stay and not be left behind or cut out is to be like I uh you can take whatever you want as as a payment as the the reparations for all of the [ __ ] that we did. And isn't that what the what the I mean like to keep business and if you're a smart business and you want to make the future something good and you realize like all the pitfalls of all the stupid things that all the stupid people who are running us now are if you if and once you've grown to the point which we've been a empire and you lost and you study history and you come to a place where China is China can't take the reigns of the world if they choose to and move it towards a more, you know, we're talking, you know, uh, uh, not needing, not not being, uh, energy dependent and like oil dependent and like, >> yeah, >> cutting all that. Like they really can move us into a future of like less conflict, more prosperity, >> you know what I mean? And, uh, they really are the ones to do it. Uh, >> I mean, that's part of the reason why I it was wild to me. Well, I guess it's all ego, but I was It's wild to me to get into a conflict with people that who are smarter than you. It just doesn't make any It doesn't make any sense. But it wouldn't make sense because it's not smart and that's kind of the whole thing. But >> yeah. Yeah. It's crazy how like >> And it's is it is it that they're they're not it's not like a lack of intelligence. It's like way too much hubris, way too much fantasy, way too much of a life where money and >> at this point delusion. Yeah.

[00:44:55]>> Yeah. Yeah. Straight delusion where these type of things have like where you've never really had a conflict in your life. You know what I mean? So you're like >> that couldn't be handled with, you know, paying somebody off or something. I mean, that's been their whole problem with Irene. Like, everybody's like, "Oh, good. What?" Dude, if they didn't go in there and pay those people off and snatch that man up and leave. And if it wasn't just like the most I totally believe that, what's your name?

[00:45:22]Rodriguez. It was like totally sold out in Duro and all that. They're all cor like it's fine, whatever.

[00:45:30]>> Um, that's not what they're gonna face in Cuba. It's not what they're gonna face in [ __ ] uh that's not what they faced in Iran when they have to sit there and they have it's not what they fought with in Afghanistan. It's not what happened in Vietnam. You know what I'm saying?

[00:45:44]>> Like for every like two things that you could say that like what we do Panama and what anyways if some if when it comes to resistance they ain't got no [ __ ] they ain't got no grit. They ain't got no uh no want to for that because how can you how can you do that and still have any type of society? I mean obviously we see what happens when you neglect your society.

[00:46:09]>> Yeah.

[00:46:10]>> Yeah.

[00:46:14]Yeah man.

[00:46:16]So I had this really cool um this uh really cool experience. I talked a little bit on Patreon, but I'll I'll talk about real fast right now if this kind of goes through this. It's like u sorry coming anyway. So, u they uh uh so up here so this big Jewish family here which by the way I told was supposed to make break make breakfast bought a [ __ ] ton of bacon like an idiot.

[00:46:56]So like a lot of artists and stuff like that and like we talked a lot about politics and just art and stuff like that and like Israel came up once.

[00:47:05]>> Did you make up for the bacon though?

[00:47:10]>> Yeah, I got some stakes. Um but uh yeah, I know. I felt so stupid. I felt so seated. But here's the thing. Like I don't think about it. Do you know what I'm saying? No, more than I would think about it.

[00:47:23]I guess I mean once you're around it, you you like a lot. You know what I'm saying? But like eat or anything like that. Like it's never it's just never been a thing. It's never been a thing that was like, >> you know, >> got like manoras. Anyway, so anyway, so >> I just don't think about it. So anyway, so like talking like Israel only came up one time, right? And like I mean so I know some of the people but for the most part I don't know I don't know where anybody stands. You know what I'm saying?

[00:47:53]>> Right.

[00:47:55]>> And in the conversation it was so crazy because it was just like a a quick [ __ ] Israel and then it was like understood, >> right?

[00:48:05]>> Really understood like what was going on. And I felt such a kinship, dude. I felt such a close kinship because I know because like I as a as a southern as a southern white male I guess like you say like freaking a lot of problems. Do you know what I'm saying? And there was especially a time when there was an equally there was like this like this like mythos around like Appalach whatever and the Southerner and everything >> and but yet there was like a lot of like people were owning the culture. Some people who are part of the culture but some people who really aren't. You know what I'm saying? It was like some cosplayers but then there were some people who are just awesome [ __ ] like Jelly Roll as much as you can say like whatever. I mean, you know, he is, you know, he's a Nashville South guy. You know what I'm saying? But what he represents doesn't necessarily represent what I represent. And I was just thinking about this whole this there's this whole group of people out here uh from all kind of different walks of life, not just southern but all kind of different walks of life who are in a position now where there's been this like kind of like a hostile takeover of your identity of your culture of your >> I mean I feel like that's happening in the states too. I feel like that's happening to us not even in these small groups but us as a to as a whole. We're being re misrepresented as Americans.

[00:49:35]That's why it's embarrassing to travel.

[00:49:37]I mean, I've talked about it before where you have to be like, not not all Americans, you know, like I feel like a dude that didn't sexually assault someone during me too where I have to It's like not not not all of us. [ __ ] Not all of us. It's happening. Yes.

[00:49:51]Yeah. But it's like >> that. Yeah. No, exactly. Not all not all of us. But you can't say that. You don't say that. You don't say.

[00:50:00]>> Of course not. And you sound like a guy who sexually assaulted someone.

[00:50:04]>> Exactly. Exactly. And also now you're bringing your baggage to a conversation that you know needs to be had. You know what I'm saying? So like you don't have to make an exception for me. Like I get it. You know what I'm saying? Like you're I don't need a space in this. You know what I'm saying? To disagree or not disagree.

[00:50:23]It was just so interesting to be in like this situation, have honest good conversations about stuff and like also recognizing like it's not my place to push it either or talk about it or give my opinion about anything like you made your case, whatever. That's the vibe.

[00:50:42]>> But that's a sign of intelligence is you also need to learn like learn when to listen and take in new information and perspective [ __ ] like that. Yeah.

[00:50:51]>> Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Uh yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And and also just that's a struggle that somebody else has to be on. Like that's their struggle like >> that with their like what the [ __ ] can I do about it? Like what am I supposed to say about it? What one way or the other?

[00:51:11]Like how how do I inject my my injection of my opinion into your life into this conversation? How does this help you heal? How does this reconcile? How does this help you reconcile your cultures and your traditions which are so important to you? Because you do believe these things and you do like this saying this thing has familial context and it has you know what I'm saying and now you're like a father. What is like like who am I like I you know this made me feel a certain way whatever and who am I to complicate that for you?

[00:51:46]You know what I'm saying? or who is anybody to complicate that for you as a human being who is going through this this thing but at some point in time I think it's just with the America thing eventually we will we will grow to have our there will be a new tradition kind of like a [ __ ] mutation of things that's going to be interesting to see what that is >> it is just because it with the with there being so many uh like almost how like religion has all these different subsects of different kinds how so many I would be curious what those traditions would be what influence we take where it's not just you know it's no longer will we be in the stronghold of Puritan Christian evangelical like now what what what is what influences what inspires us what >> you know what I'm saying how much like >> yeah the Catholics are doing it big right now they are going through it and like all all the the change of the I mean all that stuff all the rebirth stuff is exciting. It's just us getting to that point and cuz I feel like um to go back to what you're talking about with the China thing. I think it's the excess the the the lie of ex the lie of living by excess is one of the things that's one of the things I feel like they have on us is l losing the learned behavior of more is better you know.

[00:53:15]>> Yeah. because then you end up in a boat with just you and a bunch of supplies that you can't even [ __ ] ends up spoiling all all of that kind of so I think we're kind of at the extinction burst where people are exhausted by excess and that's how you you know we even the old hoarders we're watching people literally die in houses full of excess that there's people thriving by not doing that by just taking what you need and and moving forward and and being like oh I have enough for both of us we can both the the and it all goes what's so funny is this brings us back to the beginning of the episode where at the end of the day it's community. How do we make us as h human beings how do we make us better and it is that it is that it's that exchange and not being like uh the greed not being tricked by greed >> at the end of the day.

[00:54:06]>> Yeah. Yeah. changing our mentality. You know, I know I I preach about it all the time about like radical psychedelia and stuff like this, but again, we were talking about it this weekend. We were kind of talking about shark bust and all this stuff. And I was like talking about like uh in infusing infusing like uh uh mutual aid and and diff different kind of services with with art. You know what I'm saying? like art being the the extension, you know what I'm saying, of that and to like create community and like be able to bring together because that's what it really is. It's like you're expanding your mind to realize that you do live in that community, right? And then you're brought into that community. It's a truly psychedelic experience with without drugs. You know what I'm saying?

[00:54:54]>> Yeah.

[00:54:55]>> Like like it's a physical it's radical.

[00:54:58]You know what I mean? Uh when you think about sharks anyways. So yeah, man.

[00:55:03]Changing our mentality. Also, the Chinese dude, it wasn't that long ago like they might get a piece of meat once a month or whatever. Like, >> well, this is like I got into an argue my with my dad cuz my dad immigrated here from Cuba and he was talking about how like he like you you and I think he was projecting, but he was like, "You would be okay if you could go to the grocery store and there not be any beef." And I was like, "Yeah, if there is a month where there is no I can't have this thing and it's the for the greater then I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that." And I I get that you don't that you maybe you can understand, right?

[00:55:41]>> But it's not something like I don't I've never been one for that. I mean that's why I haven't wanted to participate in in in our society. That's why I have been the in the outcast on the outskirts of it my whole life is because I don't like that. I don't like how that feels.

[00:55:58]I don't like how it, you know, it makes me uncomfortable. I don't like suffering and all all excess does is create suffering.

[00:56:05]>> Yeah.

[00:56:06]>> So, >> yeah, it does. It does.

[00:56:09]>> So, yeah. So, I think that Yeah. If it if it's if everybody if everybody gets steak only once a month, >> okay, then guess what? that once a month that's gonna be like a big that's gonna be a big deal. How how that's what I'm saying how like because I think about it back like back in the day like steak used to be like a big thing that was like a big thing to have a steak dinner you know so for it to be this I think scarcity is the only way a lot of times human beings appreciate the things that are that it they and technically should be scarce because having mass cattle and stuff like that overall isn't good for the earth to begin with. So yeah, I get that maybe you don't want it. Maybe it's your favorite. Maybe it's like the only kind of meat you can really eat. Then maybe eat some more vegetables, dog.

[00:56:55]Like I just don't that part of it I just don't get. I just don't understand. I'm not smart enough to get how it makes it better.

[00:57:03]>> I think what happens to people I think what happens to people, especially depending on what kind of media they consume and what the what the word is, like how they're consuming it. you hear, "Oh, we're we can only get steak once a week, but the fat cats up on, you know, in Havana or wherever and they're eating good and they're living the life or we're down here." So, and that can grow grow a lot of animosity. I think that >> Sure.

[00:57:30]>> And I think we should kill those people who have the stake because if they're the reason that they're preventing us from having it, then I'm sorry, you become the stake. At the end of the day, YOU BECOME THE STAKE.

[00:57:45]IF we all could have steak, that's that's the difference. If we all could have steak, if some [ __ ] were eating steak every day, then I'm sorry, honey.

[00:57:53]Then you will have to become the steak.

[00:57:56]>> Because again, all that to me, the animosity is not for the individuals eating the steak. It's for the greed that you think you are better than any other [ __ ] person on this planet.

[00:58:05]>> Right.

[00:58:06]>> Right. Fair. Yeah. That's fair. That's fair, dude. And you deserve something more than someone else does.

[00:58:11]Yes. The [ __ ] out of here or whatever.

[00:58:14]Get the [ __ ] out of here, dude. Yes.

[00:58:19]Totally.

[00:58:19]>> So, it's all about community and and killing the stake lords.

[00:58:22]>> I don't want to say I don't condone the murders, y'all. I just want But if it happens, >> I was just talking about in this hypothetical situation that's not even like real.

[00:58:35]>> If murder happens, I ain't going to be the one to snitch. She guarantee that.

[00:58:40]But >> I was just saying that's the only time I would I would want for the stake, right?

[00:58:46]But that's because they're creating the scarcity themselves, >> right? That's all you're right.

[00:58:51]>> Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. They >> So if there were to be violence, I feel like it should be directed accurately.

[00:58:58]>> Yeah.

[00:58:59]>> You know, because the animosity can only go so they only you can only take so much. You can only take so much before you can't take it anymore. Period.

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[00:59:55]You could stick a whole ribeye in one of your back pockets like