Reform Mp Announces Sudanese Migrants Must Be BANNED After Belfast Bloodshed | Sarah Pochin

[00:00:00]Right, let's go to Sarah Poachin, MP, reform MP. Sarah, good morning and welcome.

[00:00:05]>> Good morning. How are you?

[00:00:06]>> I'm very well. We've never spoken, you and I, have we?

[00:00:09]>> I don't think we have. It's lovely to meet you.

[00:00:12]>> And you? Why have we never spoken? Why have you ignored me since you were elected?

[00:00:16]>> I I can only apologize. It's because Mike thinks he's got exclusive rights, you see.

[00:00:20]>> Well, maybe. I know. I did see you at the reform conference in September, and you were surrounded by an entourage. Um, and you were looking very glamorous, I have to say. And I thought I'd like to go up and say hello to Sarah, but I thought I don't even think I would have got anywhere near you.

[00:00:31]>> Oh, bless you. Well, always. Listen, come in September and we'll have a coffee together.

[00:00:35]>> No, I definitely am. No, no, you're you're a star of reform. Um, right.

[00:00:38]Let's talk about this hideous uh situation that's developed in Belfast.

[00:00:42]Um, I presume, Sarah, you're not one of the hand ringers that's going to say, I mean, obviously we want things to calm down. Of course we do. Um, I don't mean uh that by way of hand ringing, but you're you're not going to be a politician that now starts to blame the far right for the unrest on the streets of Belfast, presumably.

[00:00:58]>> Look, absolutely not. Um, the fact is, when are we going to wake up uh and smell the coffee? These politicians that have been in power now for the last 10 years. We've had two over 200,000 over 200,000 illegal migrants have entered this country over the last 10 years. uh when are we going to put a stop to this? And listen, I'm going to say one thing. If we invite the third world into our country, we get the third world. And this is what is happening. We are getting people in from an alien culture who think it is acceptable to rape women and girls who think it is acceptable to get knives out on the street and start beheading white British citizens. This is not acceptable. And it is only people like myself which will call it out for what it is.

[00:01:50]>> Uh what are reform going to do? I declare an interest. I'm a reform counselor. So I'm kind of you know I'm I'm one of you Sarah.

[00:01:55]>> I didn't know that.

[00:01:56]>> Oh yeah. No thanks. That's great. And it so I've obviously had a great imper pressure within the party. I'm Sarah.

[00:02:01]I'm I'm elected tw I've been elected three times in the last six months. Did you not hear this in the reform news?

[00:02:07]Unbelievable.

[00:02:07]>> Oh gosh. Sorry.

[00:02:08]>> So I'm a burough counselor. I'm a county council. I'm the deputy leader of Essics bloody county council. Never mind. Um, [laughter] I love that I have made no impression on Sarah Poin whatsoever.

[00:02:21]>> I know. I I love that. There's me thinking I'm famous in my own head, but um, clearly not. I'm only kidding. Um, serious point. What What are we What a reform. What are you going to do about people from Sudan and Somalia that would come here to do us harm? Um and and we pick on Sudan because of course we know that the perpetrator of this horrendous crime uh trying to behead Steven Oggovie on the streets of Belfast yesterday or the night before last. Uh we know that he's from Sudan. We also know that the perpetrator, the murderer uh of Rihanna White uh some time ago was also from Sudan. Uh the man that stabbed her at a train station 23 times in the head, face, and body. Sorry if you're eating your breakfast, but that's what happened. We're going to tell it how it is on this station, this channel, this show. Um, can we ban anyone and everyone from coming here from Sudan?

[00:03:11]>> Absolutely.

[00:03:12]>> Even if they seek asylum.

[00:03:14]>> Absolutely. And that is exactly what reform have already said we will do. So as soon as we are elected, anybody that tries to enter this country from Sudan is deported. They do not get a visa. We will ban all visas to people uh uh applying uh from Sudan. And I'll tell you why. Because in the last year alone, 6,000 6,000 Sudin people have claimed asylum in this country and been granted asylum because they claim they're coming from a war torn country. Look, we we cannot take everybody in the world that has got uh you know that has come from a country with problems. There are many many problems around the world uh and we can't take all of those people in. Uh but the point is these people are coming from a country that is lawless. They don't have laws. We have law and order.

[00:04:04]We have a law that says you cannot rape a woman or a child. Uh we have a law that says you cannot carry knives on our streets. These people ignore it. They have come from a lawless culture and they think it's okay to behave like that here. So reform have already said very clearly, Zia has said it, we will ban anybody coming into this country from Sudan. Uh and this is exactly what the British people expect. And like we've all said repeatedly this morning and last night, of course, we don't agree uh with the violence we saw, but we do understand it. I will say that I completely understand what is happening across the country because every day almost there's another incident. Last week, we were talking about poor Henry.

[00:04:49]Now, it is this uh chap that is fighting for his life in hospital. If it's not them, it's a girl that's been raped by four Afghans. Uh wasn't it? uh uh uh in Bristol, I think it was. Um you can go on and on and on, but these people hate us. They want to destroy our culture.

[00:05:07]Why they come here to live is beyond me because we represent everything they want to destroy.

[00:05:14]>> But it it is the case, isn't it? My contention, I'm sure yours is that our culture is better than many others. uh and and also that uh a culture in Sudan and elsewhere uh that demeans women um that thinks that sexual assault and violence is just standard. Uh I mean Hillary Ben has said this over the last 12 hours or so uh that beheading in the likes of Sudan is normal. I mean, you got a Labour MP, the Northern Ireland Secretary saying that. Um, but of course being roundly criticized by the leftwing media and leftwing politicians for saying such a thing um because of the woke nature of British politics um as as it is. Um you know, it it's um let me go back to a question about the Sudin coming here. I I know that the reform view, Zia's view from yesterday was not to grant visas to anyone from Sudan.

[00:06:03]Fine. But that's different to stopping people coming here and claiming asylum.

[00:06:07]How do we go one step further and stop anyone that doesn't intend to come here and do so by way of a visa, but wants to rock up on a boat uh and they are from Sudan. How you demonstrate that is is a is a detail that we will have to get to in terms of how you identify such uh in terms of their point of origin. How do we stop them even coming here and claiming asylum? Because otherwise that that continues to be a problem. Sarah, you're going to get people coming here on boats from Sudan and they're then here. So deporting them is great, but we shouldn't need to deport them in the first place because they shouldn't be here. We need to stop them at the point of entry, don't we?

[00:06:43]>> Anybody that comes here illegally on a boat, it doesn't matter whether they're from Sudan or Somalia or anywhere else.

[00:06:50]And let's face it, most of them are coming from Calala, you know. So, [laughter] let's just let's just call it out for what it is. They're coming from a safe country of France. But anybody that comes here illegally uh that crosses that channel on a small boat, and they're not small anymore. They're they're holding 80 people, 80 men. Uh then they get detained and they get deported. They don't even set foot onto our shores under a reform government. We will detain them immediately. We will either turn them back in the channel or if they hit our shores, they get picked up and they get taken out of [clears throat] this country straight away. There's no ifs and there's no buts. We don't care where they've come from, Sudan or anywhere else. The fact is, and let's face it, they throw their papers in the sea so that it makes our life so much more difficult. But the difference with the reform government is we are the only party and I promise the British people this. We are the only party that will leave the ECR that will get rid of all of these human rights lawyers of which there is an industry a multi-million pound industry grown up because of the last conservative government and because of this Labor government. Both of them have behaved have behaved shamefully when it comes to allowing the abuse of the Equalities Act, the abuse of the human rights act and the abuse of the ECR. We have to come out and bin all of those all of that and start again and write now um laws that reflect the current society, the problems that we currently face. The British people have had enough They they have and and Kemmy Badno of course has jumped on the bandwagon the ECR bandwagon as she has many things rolling your eyes there understandably um I mean it's an easy win for Kemmy Badnock isn't it to say oh I know I'll just follow reform whatever reform decide to do I will just do exactly the same do you believe chem when she says that if she were prime minister she would take us out of the ECR >> no there is no way that that conservative party will ever take us out of the ECR they do not have the guts to do it we will have the will to do it.

[00:09:00]You have to have a government that has the will to sort this problem out. And look, yes, the Tories now coming out with things like, "Oh, we're going to be the party of common sense." Oh, that sounds familiar. We're going to be the party that takes this country out of the ECR. Oh, that sounds familiar. I remember a year ago when my first PMQ I called for the prime minister to ban the burka. Everyone clutched their pearls.

[00:09:23]Uh, a few weeks later, Keby's on the front page of the Telegraph saying, "I think I might ban the burka. For goodness sake, the British people can see through this nonsense from the Conservative party."

[00:09:36]>> Sarah, she has said today, of course, that we the police should stop and search more black boys.

[00:09:41]>> Oh, really? Has she? You know, there we are. So reform have said very clearly last year in our summer of uh crime uh initiatives that we would have zero tolerance to stop and search that we would do saturation stop and search and we would not let the police hide behind the racism card or we can't stop and search uh young black men or whoever it is uh for fear of being called racist.

[00:10:04]And here we are coming out as a black woman making that claim because she thinks it sounds so much more impactful.

[00:10:11]the British people can see through it.

[00:10:13]They didn't do it when they were in power and they won't do it uh again, but they won't get it back into power because the British people are not fools.

[00:10:21]>> Yeah. No, they're not. And um I I think don't want to put you on the spot here, but uh let's just say some people would say that you can't blame the people of Britain and the people of Belfast for protesting. Uh again, no one excuses bad behavior, certainly arson, violence, kicking people's doors in. That is not condoned uh at all. But that I I do have an element of empathy, if not sympathy.

[00:10:41]Empathy uh with the people of Britain rising up uh and I'm afraid being seen to take the law into their own hands.

[00:10:47]Because if the government can't enact the law, um then don't be surprised when uh the great people of what was once Great Britain uh do that for themselves.

[00:10:58]>> And look, we've seen it, haven't we, time and time again. Uh we've seen the pink ladies uh protesting at the um outside the migrant hotels peacefully protesting because they are so worried about the safety of their daughters and themselves. I have people in my constituency of Runorn and Helsby tell me that last summer their daughters or people that live next door to an HMO full of illegal migrants. their daughters wanted to sunbathe in the garden and were being spat on spat on by uh illegal migrants in the garden next door. Uh an absolute disgraceful situation that was in Runorn. This is happening up and down the country. But people will protest and like you I don't condone any violence but I do understand it. I understand the frustration. I feel the frustration. I am desperate now for a general election for us to take control of the reigns and to start putting into place some hardcore policies which stops these people coming into this country that have a medieval view and attitude towards women and as I said earlier want to see nothing but the destruction of the west.

[00:12:09]>> Um before you go let's um do you want to see what Karma is going to do about this um horrendous situation in Belfast?

[00:12:15]We've got a poll. Um I don't know if um you have a view on which one of the four you would select Sarah. Um Kstar's response to the Belfast outrage will be to blame the far right. 87% of people say that visit Belfast for 90 seconds as he did Southport. 3% of people are called with that. Uh and of course call for the release of more sausages. Uh one of his most [laughter] famous Gettysburg speech like edicts 6% or to resign. Uh only 4% of people think that he'll resign. Um uh I don't think there's much chance of that unfortunately. Um there you go. Uh Sarah, um glad to make contact. Um now you know who I am. Um I'm [laughter] absolutely I'm absolutely gutted that you had no idea that I was a reform counselor, but never mind. I I will try harder to make an impression on the party. Um wow, there goes my political career flushed well and truly down the poaching toilet.

[00:13:04][laughter] >> I'm so sorry, >> Sarah. Good to see you. Thank