Sex and the City S5 E8 "I Love a Charade"

Added: 2026-05-23

[00:00:00]Pod in the City is a Sex in the City podcast and thus contains adult themes and explicit content. Listener discretion is advised.

[00:00:10]>> Welcome to Pod in the City. I'm Amanda >> and I'm John.

[00:00:15]>> We're two besties who bonded over Sex in the City in college.

[00:00:18]>> And now 20 years later, we're reliving it like it's our very first time.

[00:00:29]It's season five, episode 8. I love a charade. The girls attend the Hampton's wedding of an over-thehill socialite and a lounge singer whom they all thought was gay. Carrie encounters Jack Burger again. Charlotte goes public with her relationship with Harry. Miranda gets more comfortable with the baby and with her role as a mother. And Samantha throws a huge party at Richard Wright's Hampton's house.

[00:01:03]Hey guys, we're smooth with it. It's Pod of the City, Amanda and Joan. We're here every single week. Are you guys excited? I'm buzzing right now. Are you buzzing?

[00:01:16]>> I am buzzing. We just recorded an amazing quickie about the comeback versus And Just Like That. We have a guest today and our guest, I don't know, may or may not have seen And Just Like That. I've actually not confirmed, but we might see.

[00:01:29]>> Probably not. I would assume.

[00:01:32]>> We don't We don't know, do we?

[00:01:33]>> We'll see. You guys, >> I don't know if we can wait any longer.

[00:01:37]Um, >> we're edging too much. Um, >> person is >> ASU alum, >> dad to some to a couple, daddy to many, >> friend. Daddy, Brad. Hi, Brad. Everyone knows who you are. Thanks. Thanks for joining us.

[00:01:56]>> I don't know if they actually do.

[00:01:59]>> I do think there are some people who may have dipped in. Not dipped out, but dipped in.

[00:02:05]>> Not dipped out. Like >> if you guys I guess like really at the top of the list, Brad is like um Brad and Amanda were married previously.

[00:02:15]>> I guess that's on like the top of the list of the >> Yeah, >> I'd say. So, >> for anyone who's only like known me from this podcast, it might shock you to know that yes, I was married to a man at one point.

[00:02:27]>> I know, guys. A lot has changed. Um, Amanda, from the refusing to >> I'm not a lesbian.

[00:02:34]>> That's what I like. Did you just come out?

[00:02:36]>> I don't like anyone. I don't I don't want anyone around me. But I will say, Brad, I was thinking of this today. You were the only boyfriend I've ever had that I really enjoyed being around more than I enjoyed or at least as much as I enjoyed being alone. Everyone else I dated, I'm like, "Get out of here. Get away from me." Even the ones I lived with. So there, I'll give you that.

[00:02:58]>> We just were good friends always, like from the first day we met. I don't >> Yeah. Well, I had a crush on you cuz you were like the hottest guy in our school and straight.

[00:03:09]>> Yeah. it, you know, >> you know, what a life. What a life did not >> fly away son there.

[00:03:19]>> Can you imagine?

[00:03:22]>> So, >> what else? John, you you said we're sorry we interrupted you. What's the rest of your thought? And also, >> this is this is where it's like Amanda and I already interrupt each other constantly. So, then you add a third person and it's just >> um constant uh chatter over each other.

[00:03:39]They were married, but I also know Brad, too. So, I was I was willing for him to be a guest on this. I don't really like when we have guests typically because I feel awkward. So, this was nice. I was in Brad and Amanda's wedding >> and um spent many evenings at your apartment uh at the Enclave.

[00:04:04]>> That was a good apartment. Um I have very fond memories. I find this to be so special that we can do this. That was like, you know, we were young. We were all idiots. I mean, our our frontal loes hadn't fully developed, but I think we had a great time.

[00:04:17]>> We were young, wild, and free. And actually, guys, if you're interested in hearing a deep dive on an experience that we live through, check out our Patreon. It's patreon.com/podinthecity.

[00:04:30]Now is the time to join, [ __ ] Because we're going all in on uh God Spell.

[00:04:37]If you know any of our lore, good lord.

[00:04:40]Uh that's where I learned to be a man.

[00:04:42]Okay. So, I'm excited. I hope you >> We'll see how much we We're going to try to keep it positive. I mean, come on.

[00:04:52]>> I'm gonna talk about >> as I can.

[00:04:54]>> I'm gonna talk.

[00:04:55]>> You're gonna go in.

[00:04:56]>> No.

[00:04:56]>> Go all in. Okay. I learned a lot of things in that experience. Anyway, check it out. It's patreon.com/podintheity.

[00:05:02]Brad's joining us for it. Also, hit subscribe, hit like, and share if you're watching us on YouTube because here's what happens. Every week, we drop our recap. Then on Monday, we have a little quickie episode for you, too. And if you feel like it, I do a live stream on Friday at 2 p.m. You can join that, too.

[00:05:21]That's actually quite fun because there's a lot of people who are in it.

[00:05:25]We chat. Last week I saw the sheep detective, so I was [ __ ] over that.

[00:05:32]>> He goes live for 45 minutes by himself just out there like naked.

[00:05:38]>> You realize >> I could never do it.

[00:05:40]>> I I like was a actual school teacher. I had to be on for 35 kids for nine hours a day. So I can put a put me in front of a microphone and a camera and I'll ramble all day long. End of story. So, >> could you do that, Brad? Just you alone on a live with like 50 people watching you?

[00:05:59]>> Probably not. I mean, it'd have to be like focused on something and I could >> Oh, yeah.

[00:06:04]>> You do like 20 minutes like >> um But you do the movie corner thing, Joan.

[00:06:10]>> Yeah, I like to talk about the movies.

[00:06:14]I was going to go to a [ __ ] movie this week and then some [ __ ] was in my spot if you guys know.

[00:06:20]>> Oh, yeah. I have a spot that I like to sit in and was in it.

[00:06:27]>> What's your spot?

[00:06:27]>> Do you like Yeah. What do you What's your spot, Brad?

[00:06:30]>> I like the back row of the front, too.

[00:06:34]Like, I like to be close. I don't want anybody in front of me.

[00:06:36]>> Okay.

[00:06:36]>> That's where Don likes to sit. My dad, Don, we sit there except for Wicked.

[00:06:40]Right up there.

[00:06:41]>> Donald.

[00:06:44]>> Donald.

[00:06:44]>> Okay. While we have Brad rolling.

[00:06:48]>> Yeah. Uhhuh. Did you watch Sex in the City, babe? What's your relationship to it?

[00:06:54]>> Yeah.

[00:06:55]>> The episode we're talking about.

[00:06:57]>> Just tell us about the whole series. And why why did you not go to that midnight showing with us? Were you just like, "Fuck this."

[00:07:06]>> He was like, "Let these [ __ ] have their fun."

[00:07:08]>> Yeah.

[00:07:09]>> I went to one of them.

[00:07:11]>> You went to Sex in the City, too, with me, Dennis, and Chad.

[00:07:16]>> Yeah. And within five minutes. God.

[00:07:19]Well, I think Brad took this picture.

[00:07:21]>> You didn't come to this one.

[00:07:24]>> No, I did not. I I don't think I could stomach it. I don't know.

[00:07:28]>> The second one was so bad.

[00:07:30]>> Oh, it's just Well, it's actually it's actually a little better than it than I than we thought it was.

[00:07:35]>> Better than just like that, unfortunately.

[00:07:38]>> Yeah. I mean, I I watched episodes here and there. I I don't really recall like when I actually watched the whole series. It might have been once you and I were together, Amanda. Um, >> it was airing as we were together, like currently airing.

[00:07:54]>> I think I caught up at some point like we did with the Sopranos. Like I randomly watched one Sopranos episode and it was like season five at that point and then we just went back and caught all the way up >> and The Office. The What a time for TV.

[00:08:07]Jesus.

[00:08:08]>> Yeah. Yeah. I like to claim that I did watch The Office as it was airing and that was really tough to do like waiting. You don't have to do that anymore. Um but yeah, I'm It's a good show. It's just so [ __ ] corny. I can't stand it. Like >> Sex in the City not to get your ass torn up.

[00:08:27]>> Stands here, sweetie.

[00:08:29]>> They know he's straight.

[00:08:31]>> I watched the And just like that episode.

[00:08:34]>> Okay. John didn't know that I told you to do that.

[00:08:37]Wait, >> I mean I everything.

[00:08:42]>> Wait, which answer? Wait, >> what episode do you [ __ ] think? What episode do you think I >> Yeah, that one >> you Ding ding ding ding ding ding.

[00:08:51]>> Okay, that I'm actually very interested in that. Tell me more. How did you feel about that?

[00:08:58]>> Did you watch it with with your wife Alyssa?

[00:09:01]No, I watched it after she went to bed, but she she had watched them and I was >> I think she should watch that the whole series together. You will have so much fun.

[00:09:10]>> Well, she already watched it and I >> Oh, >> I did not watch it with her. Like, she watched it when I wasn't around because I was like, "Nope, I'm not doing this."

[00:09:18]>> Okay. What' you think?

[00:09:22]>> It was intense. Intense. Yeah, that scene was the most intense I've ever seen of Sex in the City universe. Um, but it just was so weird. Like the tone of everything was so different.

[00:09:36]>> Yes. Yes. Yes. What else? What else?

[00:09:40]>> I don't even want to talk about it, but like the kid coming out or the kid transitioning.

[00:09:47]I don't know. Like >> it's all been said. Brad, do not even You are in such a safe space right now.

[00:09:53]It's hard for me as a parent like I I'm all for trans rights and people, you know, transitioning to what they feel they are and that's or they are, you know, and I never really thought of it.

[00:10:08]Like if my kid wanted to do that, I don't know.

[00:10:11]>> I don't know if I could get behind it.

[00:10:13]Like it would be really hard.

[00:10:15]>> Um >> I know that you would because you've always to the LGBTQ. What are you going to go push him out of a plane? Are you gonna I like having boys though?

[00:10:25]>> Well, the other day Otis was like, yeah, two boys. Otis was the older boy was like, >> I'm going to do this when I become a girl. And I like looked at Alyssa and I was like, what did he say? And she was like, "What did you mean?" He was like, "Oh, when I when I get old." I mean, when I become an adult.

[00:10:44]>> Fascinating because me and John are watching this. Two just single childless people. So I I wouldn't even that didn't even clock that.

[00:10:53]>> Like it triggered me to like watch the school like try to push the parents like that kind of triggered me. I was like oh I don't know if the school knows what's right you know and then Alyssa and I talked about it this morning and she was like you wouldn't support him if you like wanted to express himself differently. And I was like no I'll definitely he can call himself rock.

[00:11:14]That's fine, you know, but we're going to wait a while before we start like, you know, the scientific part of it.

[00:11:24]>> What is happening in this episode?

[00:11:25]>> John is so red and I am getting very nervous. This >> you're fine. I'm fine. This is how if I if I say anything, John gets like this.

[00:11:35]>> Nobody talks.

[00:11:36]>> If I say anything, >> Alyssa also said, "This is weird because you're so woke."

[00:11:42]So there was that.

[00:11:44]>> Oh, because you're so woke.

[00:11:46]>> Because I'm so woke.

[00:11:47]>> That's actually I'm actually I'll be genu I'm actually surprised that you feel the way that you do just because I know you're >> it just I hadn't ever thought about it until I watched it.

[00:12:00]I think that there's like a level of fear and of course like I think anything with someone it's like you want to protect your children and you also inherently know what is to come when you are otherred at all if you're uh gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, you know what the the road your child is facing.

[00:12:21]And so I think that that happens with a lot of parents where they're like afraid ultimately. Here's the other thing. The example that just like that is shoving down our throats as a representation of the non-binary community >> is Chay Diaz. Now, what did you think of Chay Diaz? Miranda leaves Steve for Chiaz. Yeah, I don't know if I could get much of an opinion on that just from that episode, but I'm just amazed at how different they look than when I saw them on Broadway. I don't know. Amazing to me.

[00:13:02]>> Did you think though that like their finger banging was as much of a rebirth as Miranda took it? Because Miranda, she says that the reason that she was so guttural in her orgasm was because she was trying to play it as though she was like a rebirth of the character.

[00:13:25]>> I guess that came I mean now that I know that it came across for sure. I mean it was >> it was intense and like >> it is intense.

[00:13:35]>> Carrie being not in a not in a hot way, right? Carrie's such a [ __ ] though.

[00:13:40]She's like, >> "Yeah, she makes a little too much of it."

[00:13:43]>> Yeah. Like, relax. You're fine.

[00:13:46]>> But I did like the you're drinking too much story line. That was my favorite part of that episode.

[00:13:52]>> Well, guess what? You never see it again.

[00:13:56]>> Yeah, that >> that's how easy it is. She pours her bottles down the sink, never brought up again.

[00:14:02]>> Two shots prior to the finger banging.

[00:14:05]Um though they wanted us to believe they were wasted. I hate that show and I'd like it to burn in a fire, >> you guys.

[00:14:12]>> Yeah, they it's definitely like they're overplaying their hand like setting us up too much type of feel. Yeah, >> it's a very woke show. We just did a discussion where I think I said I think it might have been written by AI because that's how all of the story lines come through. That's how the writing comes through >> a little bit for sure. Speaking of wokeness, this episode uh this actual episode.

[00:14:36]>> Oh man, this was it didn't I don't remember it being so like mean. I don't remember Carrie being such a [ __ ] >> Stanford being such a a self-hating gay.

[00:14:49]>> Okay. But there was a moment. Yes. I hated I hated all that too. It's like obviously Nathan Lane is gay. Obviously.

[00:14:57]and he and Bitsy, do they look like they're getting like [ __ ] No. I mean, like, so who cares if they just want to be pals? Fine. I though thought there was a really be And now this is slightly out of order. Sorry. Uh I thought there was a really beautiful moment though with Marcus and Stanford bookending the convers like there was bookends of the conversation that I only picked up in this watch. Okay. Because, you know, he's talking about Marcus and doing the abs cheese grading situation.

[00:15:29]>> Cheese grating. Yeah.

[00:15:30]>> And they're like, "What does he even see?" Like, "What does she like? What can they even do? What does she want to be with him?" And Marcus is like, "Well, maybe he just makes him her laugh."

[00:15:40]Okay. Then they look at him, whatever.

[00:15:43]Then later in the episode, him and Stanford are dancing on the dance floor and Stanford says something, "You know what? I never put that together." that that was a call back to that.

[00:15:55]>> Me neither. But I was like that was actually kind of smart writing because a lot of people could look at Marcus and Stanford, which they did and have the whole show so far in the two episodes they've been in as like why would Marcus want to be with Stanford?

[00:16:15]>> Do you see what I mean?

[00:16:16]>> Yeah. Yes. I I'm I'm by the way during this there's a group text between me and Justine and Jod that is tumble weeds all day and right now there is like 32 un and they're just talking about Tom Sandival and I can't figure out how to turn it off of my [ __ ] computer. So I just >> what happened to Tom Sandival?

[00:16:33]>> Nothing. They're just like talking about Tom Sandival cuz you know anyway Carrie's also a terrible friend in this.

[00:16:40]All she does is talk trash. This is my great greatest fear of my friends is that the second I turn and walk away, they're all just turning to each other and like like, "Oh my god, I almost died when he started grading your cheesy babs."

[00:16:56]Like she's invited you out to the Hamptons for her wedding and the whole time she's talking [ __ ] I mean, it does hearken back to like our old days of the 136 for sure. We did some rotted things. But >> these people are in their 30s, late 30s, but 40s.

[00:17:14]>> Let's really question the big thing. Why do they decide to invite 75 people to their wedding that they don't even know?

[00:17:23]They don't know Carrie. They don't know or no, they knew Carrie, right?

[00:17:28]>> Samantha did Bitsy's public publicist and Harry got invited on his own because he did Bitsy's divorce. So, everyone actually generally got invited. Now, me and Brad knew, you probably know him, too, but we knew a couple that like reminds me of of these two. You know what I'm thinking thinking of?

[00:17:45]>> They're like an old Broadway couple.

[00:17:48]>> Which ones?

[00:17:49]>> Okay. Well, we did Fiddler with them. I don't even think we would like uh >> Yeah.

[00:17:52]>> But don't you think that that this is like the exact same situation? And even back then, we were like, >> "This is kind of like lovely." I remember he they were awake. He was doing the show. Do you remember this?

[00:18:04]And he was calling for her birth. It was her birthday and she was like in New York or something and he >> speaker >> Yeah. And he's like, "I want the most the biggest bouquet. Add more flowers.

[00:18:14]Just like I want it to just be outrageous flowers." And we were like that like wow. And they just did they did seem to just be like best friends.

[00:18:23]I'm like maybe this is like the most healthy situation for everyone.

[00:18:28]>> Yeah.

[00:18:29]>> Do we think they had maybe an agreement too that >> they also might have had sex? It's like cuz Bitsy and Bobby do have sex. She gets pregnant.

[00:18:42]>> This one triggered me a lot too because >> Okay, >> I used to be so mean to people who said they were straight that I thought were gay.

[00:18:54]>> Oh, I think we all kind of did though.

[00:18:57]>> Do you remember though doing Music Man, I bullied somebody really bad.

[00:19:02]I actually their names.

[00:19:04]>> Don't >> Don't say the name.

[00:19:06]>> Don't say the name.

[00:19:08]>> Don't say the name.

[00:19:08]>> I haven't heard.

[00:19:10]>> Perfect.

[00:19:12]This is a perfect setup for our straight man in theater trope, baby. Yeah. Um, >> but why were you triggered? Because you were like, "Oh, I feel bad for doing that."

[00:19:23]>> Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I was like, "What >> I feel bad for so much of what I did in >> what a bully I was. I was such a piece of shit." so mean and I'm an empathetic person like >> you are >> but for some reason I was just there are many people I can think about not just this one person where I did that to them or like behind their back was like just come out you're gay like I was >> I can't even think of who you're talking about cuz that could that could honestly be so many people name rhymes with Joel Koulian >> okay >> I Um, let's get >> uh here's the thing. I think that over the years we've actually realized like everyone's on a spectrum in a way. So, like, you know, all it takes sometimes is a finger around the butt in the butt to like, you know, ignite something. You never know.

[00:20:17]>> No way.

[00:20:17]>> In my experience, they all love it. They all want it. They're all >> Girl, in my experience, >> not you, Brad. I don't I actually don't mean you >> dudes.

[00:20:29]you know, >> giving away my secret truth they choose to live in.

[00:20:34]>> Um, the prostates back there it >> Well, yeah. I mean, yeah. Well, we've been we've been saying we've been preaching this.

[00:20:43]>> Mine's too big. It just it pokes out like it's just I sit down and >> your prostate does.

[00:20:49]>> Yeah. My prostate gets milked.

[00:20:51]>> Oh my god.

[00:20:56]Like you know how girls can just cross their legs and bounce and Yeah, it's pretty much like that.

[00:21:01]>> Yeah, >> I don't know. Actually, I'll I'll be honest with you. I didn't Girls could cross their legs and bounce. I don't know what that even means at all.

[00:21:10]>> Girls will get the piercing for that reason. Although, like, oh my god, who's doing that?

[00:21:15]>> On what?

[00:21:16]>> On like your [ __ ] and or like I mean any of those lips down there. You could probably like pierce something and then you're moving around and it's like >> cute. This was going to be Bitsy and Bobb's Hampton's wedding and now we're talking about milking prostates and clip piercings.

[00:21:34]I just wanted to talk about the piano man. Okay.

[00:21:38]>> The cabaret you want to start the episode. Is that all there is? Do you think that Nathan Lane was like um Do you think Nathan Lane watched this back and was pissed because he was like, "Oh, I didn't know that the camera could show my hands and he's like doing so poorly." Did you clock that, too?

[00:21:58]>> Yeah. I was like, "He's not playing."

[00:22:00]Obviously, >> like the left hand wasn't matching what the left hand would do.

[00:22:05]>> And if I were Nathan Lane, I'd be pissed about that. I'd be like, "What the fuck?" I thought my hands weren't in the shot. Otherwise, I would have like made a bit bigger effort. But there um Oh, here it is. Okay. So, in >> So, do you think that he like used this role as like a piece of like being like for catharticness or like what? Because like he's gay, but he wasn't out.

[00:22:28]>> Do you know how old everyone is in this episode, by the way?

[00:22:31]>> Wait, what?

[00:22:32]>> You want to know? Do you want to know everyone's age?

[00:22:34]>> So young.

[00:22:36]>> Who's >> Andy Griffith is like 32 in Andy Griffith show, isn't he?

[00:22:40]He's I think like a little later than that.

[00:22:42]>> He's like 26. Uh Don KN is younger than both of us. All of us.

[00:22:50]>> He's dead.

[00:22:52]>> Well, like in the show.

[00:22:53]>> What point were you getting at a point here?

[00:22:55]>> I'm supposed to name I wrote down everyone's ages. Are you ready to hear them?

[00:22:59]>> Are they?

[00:23:01]>> Yes.

[00:23:02]>> Okay. Brad, how old are you? Like we're stacked, right?

[00:23:06]>> 41.

[00:23:06]>> Ages.

[00:23:07]>> Okay. I'm 43. Yeah. I always had that year and a half on you where there were times where I was two years older than you and I [ __ ] hated it. Um, Bitsy is 48.

[00:23:19]>> I That doesn't surprise me because I kept thinking she looked really young in this especially Well, compared >> compared She's in this new show too, Brad. And she's [ __ ] amazing. Nathan Lane is 46. He is three years older than me.

[00:23:35]Burger is 35, Stanford is 38, and Harry is 42.

[00:23:45]>> Okay.

[00:23:46]>> And bald >> and so bald.

[00:23:50]>> He's bald.

[00:23:52]>> Yeah.

[00:23:54]>> Triggered me again.

[00:23:56]>> Jesus. Sorry to make you do this episode. Thought you'd like it because it's all like Hamptonsy and Nathan Lane.

[00:24:02]Mr. Broadway has to go tinkle. Uh, that's their ages. So, that's depressing. By the way, were those Can we just Can I just say this now? Were those girls the girls like the three like hoes at the They were like busted, right? Were they like nasty? Were they like kind of busted?

[00:24:19]>> They look like late 90s.

[00:24:22]>> Maybe they don't look busted. Maybe it was refreshing. If I want to think about this positively, they actually just look like normal girls. None. Like they all have like some meat on them.

[00:24:34]Kind of haggering.

[00:24:36]Did you not think that, John? I thought you would immediately point that out.

[00:24:39]>> Orange star bimbos with huge tits.

[00:24:42]>> Oh no. And then and then Samantha comments on both of them having fake tits, and one of them so clearly does not have fake tits. And that has bugged me ever since the first time I watched this episode. Do you guys want to Okay, let's start this. Uh let's start this.

[00:24:54]Okay. My my throat is my mouth is so dry. Hold on.

[00:24:58]>> One thing I'll say while she's saying that is no gay man I know they want to argue in here that gays like obviously he's gay because he said this, but no gay man would say Mr. Broadway needs to tink needs to take a tinkle. I >> I know someone exactly like this. I know someone who reminds me so much of this character.

[00:25:20]>> He listens to the show, I think, >> and he's already knows that I'm talking about it. No, he's not straight and he also doesn't say he's straight, but he like reminds me of this. Like I can see him saying that like cuz he's just like fabulous, >> but he is openly also openly gay. But like yeah, I think this personality >> let us know. Gays in the comments if you haven't already clicked out. Um let us know.

[00:25:46]>> Would you say that? I can't see a situation where I'd be like Mr. Broadway needs to take a tinkle.

[00:25:52]Like I'm a [ __ ] but like damn.

[00:25:54]>> You're not like you're not the personality. Okay, let's do >> I'm not Mr. Broadway, that's for sure.

[00:25:59]>> Um, do you still do you still do theater?

[00:26:03]>> Um, I haven't done a I got you, John. I haven't done a show in a long time, but my wife started a company here and we just did our first two performances. So, like it's like a dance cabaret type of thing. So, I did like welcome in from cabaret and I sang >> Mr. Broadway.

[00:26:22]>> Yeah, >> you're Mr. Broadway. Well, that's awesome. I love that.

[00:26:26]>> I don't do that.

[00:26:27]>> Mr. Broadway has to take a piss >> cuz cuz I'm [ __ ] straight.

[00:26:32]>> That's how straight people talk.

[00:26:33]>> That's how straight I am. In the ever expanding galaxy of New York City. There are certain heavenly bodies. One orbits around uh I did this voice detect so it's I it's [ __ ] up. Whatever. It doesn't matter. the stars comes here for like you know consistency and >> I try to write down the ones that I think are like actually good and like thoughtful but I don't really know if this is but like there's star there's people that whose orbits we gravitate around every day and then there's stars who gravitational poles one drifts in and out of over the years and then so there's Nathan Laney's playing is that all there is um and he calls out Carrie he's like I got to see my friend Carrie over there Carrie Bradshaw he walks over to the table and um he goes, "You remember there's a line where he goes um he talking about books and he goes, "You remember books? Primitive versions of the DVD." And that made me feel really old.

[00:27:37]Um okay. Well, anyway, >> anything?

[00:27:40]>> He says, "Me and Carrie have known each other so long that cats was just kittens."

[00:27:46]And then Charlotte is like, um, well, I loved cats. And then he says something candy to her. But anyway, all this to say, we get the introduction of Bitsy Vonmuffling. She walks up. She's wonderful, personable, so nice, lovely to everyone. Brad, do you like her? Or I feel like she might annoy you.

[00:28:05]>> She was fine.

[00:28:06]>> Oh, okay. I would want her around me all the time.

[00:28:09]I'm surprised maybe not how they've transitioned her character because by the time she's in just like that, the other characters think she is like a leper. They treat her like she's a disgusting piece of [ __ ] >> They're treating her like this in this episode though.

[00:28:27]>> I know. But in this episode, she's like perfectly f like >> there's nothing wrong with her.

[00:28:34]>> Normal. She's not annoying. She's not anything. She's just a fabulous like middle-aged woman.

[00:28:41]>> And also, you know what I never picked up on before is like how openly how openly gay Bobby must have been in like the '9s when he grew up with Carrie. I guess I never put that together, but he must have just been very openly gay, right, in the '9s. I mean, we know a couple that the man was openly gay, then they got married, and then now you told me that they're openly gay again. Did you tell me that?

[00:29:09]>> Me? Then I'm talking I'm thinking a different couple.

[00:29:12]>> Oh, no. I saw a person recently and they told me that person that I'm talking about is now openly gay while still being married.

[00:29:23]>> So, they got a bitsy. Uh, Mr. Bobby has to go tingle situation. They kind of always did.

[00:29:28]>> But these two people are so much less likable than Bitsy and Bobby. I MEAN, I'D GO TO a dinner at BITSY AND BOBBY'S HOUSE.

[00:29:34]>> I like both of those people. Okay. Well, anyway, okay. We You know what? We need to save this kind of talk for the Patreon. Okay.

[00:29:40]>> I like one of those people. Just one.

[00:29:44]>> Okay. Well, I can't wait. Well, even in the Patreon, we can't say names. Okay.

[00:29:47]Mr. Broadway has to go tinkle. So, she leaves there. They immediately Miranda also is being very anti-gay.

[00:29:55]lesbians in Randa.

[00:29:56]>> I was gonna say especially for Miranda who got all butt hurt when they said thought she was a lesbian. You'd think she'd be tiny bit more I don't know sensitive.

[00:30:06]>> Good point. Great point.

[00:30:09]>> Samantha like a Bitsy von Muffling. I did PR for your event. And Bitsy says, "Oh yes, of course Samantha. I remember you. You're fabulous." Because of course everyone likes Samantha because she's amazing.

[00:30:22]See, I would actually think Bitsy and and Samantha would be friends.

[00:30:25]>> Yeah, because they're both not toxic.

[00:30:27]>> Yeah.

[00:30:29]>> Yeah.

[00:30:29]>> They both don't I was gonna say they both don't center men, but I think Well, okay. So, I uh Well, here we go.

[00:30:36]>> She comes over.

[00:30:38]>> He hasn't tingled yet. They They mention that she's getting married and they go, "Oh, who's the lucky Who's the lucky guy? Who's the lucky stud?" Samantha says. And then Nathan Lane's like, "Me."

[00:30:49]And Carrie does this laugh.

[00:30:51]>> Um, which is funny. See, this is where Sarah Parker used to be able to be kind of funny and like silly >> and she sucks now.

[00:31:02]>> It reminded me a lot. Have you guys seen that interview with uh it's like Britney Spears is with Ryan Serest and she's like sitting there and he's talking to someone else and the guy is like, "Oh, tell me about your girlfriend Julianne Huff or something." And when Britney Spears hears that Ryan Serest has A GIRLFRIEND, >> OH YES, TOTALLY.

[00:31:23]>> Her reaction is like, >> but she's just like processing it to herself. Like, oh, okay. Okay.

[00:31:28]>> That's what this reminded me of, but in a much more uh exuberant way. I mean, like, I guess I might have a similar react. I don't know what my reaction would be. I was I was trying to imagine, but like if this was you standing there and you're like me, I would I would definitely have a reaction like this because I would be obviously he's kidding.

[00:31:49]>> I would have a reaction and in fact commit me to a mental hospital because I'd sooner be alone than be married to like I mean no offense ladies, but >> I'm not marrying a woman.

[00:32:02]>> I remember you told me recently when I was dating like one of those guys I did last year. Um, I was like, "What if I came to you and I was like, I'm getting married." And you're like, "I would genuinely like have an intervention with you." You're like, "I would I would never let it happen." Like there's like something got in your head. Yeah, absolutely. Brad, what do you think of Carrie in and just like that compared to Sex in the City? Like, do you agree with us that she's just like lifeless?

[00:32:27]>> A wet blanket.

[00:32:28]>> It's just the whole show just feels I don't know. It feels so different. like they didn't pull any good any good things from Sex in the City. The whole tone of it, like the music, I don't know. It just didn't make sense to me.

[00:32:43]And I Yeah, I'm just shocked at how old she looks.

[00:32:50]>> Oh, no.

[00:32:52]>> Well, they Okay, I will give I the only credit I will give the only thing I'll say is in that episode, they do have her with like no makeup on. You know, she has that scene in the bed where, >> right, >> I think our screenshot for it was like >> it's a hate crime, honestly. But, you know, >> Yeah. I think about the music being like >> and there's no voice over, so it's jar >> downroden. Yeah, that too. Yeah, that it just feels so different. And I don't know why they would. It just feels like a completely different show, which I know it is, but it they should have called back >> to that.

[00:33:32]>> Michael Patrick King said that we as an audience don't want sex in >> nostalgia. They millennials don't want nostalgia. Yeah, we don't know. We don't want it. The whole season, the whole series of Just Like That ends with Carrie dancing depressingly to her karaoke machine and then going to the bathroom and slitting her wrist in the bathtub because she's alone.

[00:33:52]>> Are you serious?

[00:33:54]>> Yeah.

[00:33:55]>> Wait, they aren't doing anymore?

[00:33:57]>> That's what they're indicating. That's what they're indicating is going to happen.

[00:34:02]>> I thought that was like if that actually happened, I'm I'm That's respect.

[00:34:07]>> You'd be into it. Yeah. I'd watch the whole series. Yeah, >> I'd watch that. Yeah.

[00:34:12]Perfect.

[00:34:13]>> All right. I love this.

[00:34:17]>> Um, >> what's next, Amanda?

[00:34:20]>> Okay. Carrie says Carrie says this wedding will never happen. This is one of her best friends from like growing up. And this is immediately right there. She is such a hater. She's such a bad friend. So, now we're at the diner and they've all gotten invitations now to this wedding like in various ways. And Miranda know I kind of agree what I I understand what she's saying here at least is that she says I find the love facade to be the most offensive thing like just call it what it is that like you're both old and like you both just don't want to be lonely and you're friends but like the fact that they're acting like they're in love is what bothers me the most.

[00:34:59]>> Now I could slightly be on the side of optimism here and say that what they have is love.

[00:35:05]>> You always are. I agree. No, I actually do. Well, as a person who has decided to be single forever, I do app I I am I'm more, you know, interested in these type of different relationships in your later life. So, >> I'm actually kind of surprised they didn't play up more that they're like so old.

[00:35:23]>> Like, >> but they're not they're only a few years older than me.

[00:35:27]>> So, you wonder like why are they settling down? But I guess cuz he makes her laugh.

[00:35:32]>> They're also of the generation where like being older and alone is like absolutely like not done.

[00:35:37]>> Yeah, I guess. And they're best friends.

[00:35:39]They are best friends and they they have like a baby together whose name is Liza, I think.

[00:35:45]Or Judy. It's one of those. They were going between. Okay. Um so we're at the diner. Charlotte asks um if she thinks they have sex. And then Okay. This I found to be one of like the deepest back and forths of the episode, but I never thought that until now. But she goes, "Do you think that they're that they actually have sex?" And Samantha goes, "Well, all married couples stop having sex eventually." And then Miranda goes, "Well, you've had sex with Well, you've had sex with a lot of married guys." And Samantha goes, "That's how I know." And I was like, "O God, it's kind of insightful." All right. Anyway, any thoughts on that?

[00:36:25]>> I was recently watching something and they like were they were treating this person. They were like basically acting like because this person had previously had sex with a married man that their morality was like nothing. That person had zero morals because they had previously at one point slept with a married man. And that's kind of like what they're implying, I guess. Kind of, but also not.

[00:36:51]>> Okay. Well, Carrie asks, "How would you sustain a relationship without the zaza zoo?" Oh, >> enough with the zazoo.

[00:37:04]>> Brad, now you are married and like for a long time, longer than anyone I know really, including both my parents. Um, so do you find the show to be like like relationship positive? Like do you watch this and think like they're making good points or are you like this is [ __ ] >> No, I think they're making good points.

[00:37:25]>> Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, Carrie, the zazoo thing. Yeah. Okay. Actually, I do want to ask you both this. What do you think about about that? The zazoo cuz I feel like >> what about it?

[00:37:36]>> Men more than women would expect uh the sex to be just [ __ ] like flying off the handle, like always the way it is in the beginning, whereas I don't think I don't I don't expect to have that later in a relationship. But like the zazoo like what do you think of that concept?

[00:37:56]the zaz like as you can have a successful relationship as long as that chemistry is always there as long as you're constantly doing a lot of things.

[00:38:03]I've never found a way to make that work personally. But what do you guys think?

[00:38:09]>> Me, >> both of you.

[00:38:12]>> Um I find myself to be very vanilla. Like I think comparatively just in the sex life, overall sex life, I just think as long as it's happening, I think when it stops happening, that's a big red flag. Like especially if neither person cares to like talk about it or bring it up, but I I think it's definitely needed for both sides of any relationship. And me personally, I don't need it to be like ferocious. I just need it to be like somewhat frequent.

[00:38:55]>> Carrie needs that. She needs regular sex, but she also needs to feel like butterflies at all times. She's saying here, how could you possibly continue relationship if you don't have the constant butterfly? you're just going to be disappointed over and over because at some point like I mean you can keep things spicy. But >> you know years of having sex with the same person it's just going to naturally not be as exciting just as it is in the beginning. How about the thought that butter the things that Carrie thinks is butterflies is actually just her being really anxious and unstable in her relationship because she gets butterflies with Big because Big is constantly keeping her uh unstable. So I think that maybe that's what she's thinking.

[00:39:41]>> Yeah.

[00:39:43]>> You know that the one moment when she actually then is uh stable with Big, she freaks out because he wants to have a TV in the bedroom.

[00:39:52]>> Yes. That's what the whole Sex in the City 2 movie is about.

[00:39:56]>> Yeah, that's a funny >> That's a funny fight to me.

[00:40:00]>> And I would say like it's hard >> on him for that.

[00:40:03]>> It's It's hard to compare men and women having sex to like two gay dudes having sex because like uh I don't know. At least I mean I haven't been in a 10-year relationship or anything, but you know, I still want to like I don't know. When you get two dudes, guys together, there's a little >> You don't need the Zazoo.

[00:40:24]>> You don't require the Zazu.

[00:40:25]>> The Zaza Zoo a little bit easier. Is >> both guys are like, "Well, I need to come up today." So, >> exactly.

[00:40:31]>> That's the Zaza Zoo. Yeah, anything could be that.

[00:40:34]>> Well, Carrie thinks that she has Zazoo with Burger. So, um >> E, this doesn't make any sense. I feel like their entire thing is like, do you feel any kind of >> I actually do think they have chemistry.

[00:40:49]He is so awful. He is so triggering to me though. Like he is such a triggering man to me.

[00:40:54]>> Yeah, he's terrible.

[00:40:56]Like >> I just know him. I've dated Burger. I hate it. And and and and he comes across as nice and self-deprecating, but really it's like there's just such a like a negging. Uh their whole relationship is based on negging. But um but I think they have more chemistry than her and Aiden do.

[00:41:17]Oh, okay.

[00:41:19]>> Okay. So, Charlotte now announces that she's [ __ ] Harry and she's like, I I hate it. I have feelings for him, but like he's so gross. He's sweaty and he his name is Harry and I hate it because he is everywhere but his head. Um, so, um, >> so much of this is like about their about her worried about people's perception of her and him, not like that's what her biggest like issue is like is she's like, "Oh my god, people are going to perceive me as liking that like I'm they're going to think I'm disgusting or whatever." Mind you, he's like barely even qualified as disgusting. I mean, he eats food in bed, I guess. No. And he's like has like a fine body, too. Like he's not like overweight. Like he looks fine. Um she says it's the best sex of her life and she thinks she might like him. So Harry and Charlotte are now eating pizza in bed which is obviously to show that he really brings out like the easygoing nature of >> of her. Um >> because he's also so fat and sloavinly.

[00:42:21]Of course he has to eat greasy. So gross >> even though he's like a high power attorney. Uh, Charlotte asks, he invites her to this wedding because he did Bitsy's divorce. And Charlotte asks Harry that before they go if he can wax his back, which he does happily. Brad, I'd love to know how many of these pokes from Charlotte throughout the episode you're taking before you're like, "Fuck you."

[00:42:45]>> Not many. Not many.

[00:42:46]>> Because it's it's all and he just takes them. He's like, >> I'd be like, "Yeah, and you need to wax your upper lip." for you know like I would say something mean like that back >> okay >> I don't want to trigger you but >> okay so Harry and um so they're going to go to this wedding together and Carrie types when it comes to relationships um is a relationship a relationship without the zaza zoo um Samantha calls Richard demands the house she's going to stay at Richard's house and host a party Miranda comes home here we go to Steve napping with Brady it's hot as [ __ ] outside and they're doing this co-parenting thing where I guess he just is like at her house and he just like takes he's like there they like live together or something and um Steve has brought some lavender and uh they >> lilacs but it is lavender isn't it?

[00:43:38]>> No.

[00:43:39]>> Okay.

[00:43:40]>> But what I did notice is they do a pan to the flowers at the end of that scene and they are fake. Fake flowers.

[00:43:48]>> Oh no. The butterfly at the end is fake too. bothered me.

[00:43:53]>> Yeah.

[00:43:53]>> Well, Samantha, >> so then because of the lilacs, she [ __ ] Steve.

[00:43:57]>> She [ __ ] him even though the second she's she walks in and she goes, "Oh my god, it's so hot outside." And I'm like, "Well, then I'm not [ __ ] agreed.

[00:44:05]Agreed."

[00:44:06]>> Absolutely not. Um Samantha has planned a party, but Okay. Um why would you Okay. They're at a hot dog stand halfway out to the Hamptons. It's only like a 90 minute drive to the Hamptons.

[00:44:20]Why are you making a stop to eat some hot dogs at the side of the road?

[00:44:24]>> So that Carrie could seductively pump ketchup. Duh. She has to go get the little tiny cup, put it under the machine, and pump it like this.

[00:44:36]>> She's like flirting with herself. I know. She's like even around her. She's like like what in the hell are you doing? And then Burger comes up and talks to her and she's like >> she is like you can feel this glob. And then he's like you have something. And then she goes to get it and it's like still a bunch there.

[00:44:57]>> Do you not have sensory >> I understand flirting and like you're supposed to what? Bring attention to your mouth. But like girl, you look like a >> Okay. Is that what she was doing? Well, Samantha's planned a party and and Miranda and Carrie like, "Oh, are we invited?" And and Samantha goes, "Yes, but shitty pants there isn't invited.

[00:45:17]He's already ruined my lunch. He's not going to ruin my party." Now, you both know how much I hate her lunch, by the way.

[00:45:24]>> He didn't. And like this is crazy. This is absolutely like ending. I hate children, but like my own friends.

[00:45:33]>> I would never ever expect this and I would never act like this, but I guess Samantha is has kind of been acting like this since he was born. But woof.

[00:45:43]>> Now, from the from the parents perspective, Brad, um, do you encounter this? Like, do you encounter this feeling?

[00:45:51]>> I'd love to watch someone try to say this to you >> where single people is.

[00:45:59]>> No, no, I haven't encountered it. I used to be that person, but >> right like that baby coming. I mean, I still am that person, of course. I don't want babies around me ever, but this is one of my best friends.

[00:46:13]>> Also, actually, storytelling wise, um, and you know, plot progression wise, I thought we had a breakthrough with Samantha and Brady with the vibrator.

[00:46:25]>> This is when [ __ ] was happening behind the scenes between like SJP and Samantha. So, maybe it's like we're just going to write her to be like terrible.

[00:46:31]Thank you for cancer next season.

[00:46:33]>> Also, this party has about 150 people at it. I think Brady being there isn't gonna cause any kind of >> He's so cute. He is so cute. Later, Miranda goes, "He has a I know you didn't want him to come, but I put a cork up his ass and he's wearing Ralph Lauren and he's sleeping. He's like a dead baby in her hand, so he's fine.

[00:46:52]Okay. So, at the beach house, no, sorry.

[00:46:56]Samantha has planned a party. Carrie runs into Burger. That happens. And she invites him to this party my friend is hosting at Richard Wright's house. I don't think the Hampton's is this. I'm not rich and I don't have a house in the Hamptons, but I don't think everyone knows Richard, right? Everyone know. And he go and Burger goes, "I heard about that party." You did?

[00:47:20]You did.

[00:47:23]Now, if you do watch Real Housewives of New York, there are lots of episodes where they're in the Hamptons and they do act as though there are specific parties >> for specific things, but Samantha only just planned this party like two days ago.

[00:47:44]>> Yeah. Like on on route to the Hamptons.

[00:47:47]So, um, she invites, uh, at the beach house, which is honestly fabulous. Um, these girls walk up and I I said, "They all look really rough rough looking."

[00:47:58]And they're like, "Reach said we can hang by the pool whenever." And Samantha's like, "Well, you can't pool hang today. I'm having a party." And she has on like a Chanel like crazy headpiece, headscarf thing. Um, and she's making it work though. Carrie now arrives at the party with an umbrella.

[00:48:17]Brad, could you tell that she's like super pregnant here? She's like eight months pregnant here.

[00:48:21]>> No, I didn't even notice.

[00:48:22]>> Yeah. So, they have her walk into the party. She's holding an umbrella. Like, that's why she always has this umbrella, >> even though she doesn't look pregnant at all. Um, and Miranda goes, Carrie hugs Samantha and she goes, Samantha brought the kid, don't say anything. And Samantha's like, Miranda? And Miranda's like, I put a cork up his ass and he's wearing Ralph Lauren. So Samantha goes, I'm all these these [ __ ] are here.

[00:48:43]They keep calling them horrors, like they're saying all this like offensive stuff. And then Samantha goes, "I went through a lot with Richard and people should be rewarded for not getting married as well." And one of the girls has her tits out. So that was nice. And Harry knows very nice.

[00:49:01]>> How much?

[00:49:01]>> Harry goes, "Greetings from Silicone Valley." Okay, now this this was triggering for me to watch in the same way Brad doesn't like to feel like remember that he bullied people.

[00:49:14]I when I went to Disneyland with my ex, we went with two people from my show that I was in and it was supposed to be just me and my ex. But I feel like this is how I treated him the whole time because I was like embarrassed by him.

[00:49:28]But he's like fine, everyone liked him, but like I was embarrassed by him. I found him to be embarrassed and I was like I was like this to him the whole time and I remember like I still regret it. But like I've been here where I'm like just just stop. Don't say that.

[00:49:44]Don't wear that.

[00:49:46]Can neither of you relate to this?

[00:49:50]You've never been embarrassed by someone you're dating.

[00:49:53]>> Um yeah. Brad, how about you? You say something. I mean, my dating life has had Yeah. two people in the past like 25 years, so it's either one or the other.

[00:50:06]>> Well, I personally like I I I don't like when people draw attention to me in public. And so, >> yeah, for sure.

[00:50:16]>> I don't like that Harry is drawing attention to them by doing the joke, the loud joke thing. But I think in the show they're trying to just make it a big it's it's all the things. It's not just the joke. It's that his back is disgusting. He won't wear a shirt. He eats the food at the buffet which I guess is trashy and how dare he I guess.

[00:50:41]>> But then if you think about it from like the outside perspective, if you're a person at the party and Harry's going, "Greetings from Silicon Valley." Like I wouldn't think anything of it. I'd be like, "Oh, that was funny." I would actually probably have no idea what he's even talking about, >> right?

[00:50:53]>> Unless you're like standing right there looking at the woman's tits or something.

[00:50:58]>> I would be staring at his dick because as we've seen, Harry's got like the biggest dick, the biggest flaccid dick on the planet. You see an end just like that, Brad.

[00:51:07]>> Which episode?

[00:51:09]>> Um I don't I don't know. There's dick.

[00:51:12]Do you know what's more You know what is featured in Sex in the City more than anything? Men pissing. You mean and just like that?

[00:51:20]>> And just like that. Men pissing and poop. The series other than SJP killing yourself in the to the bathroom.

[00:51:28]It ends with Victor Garber standing over a toilet of overflowing poop. It's the last couple minutes of the episode. Victor Garber, the original Anthony and Sweeney Todd. This is what it's come to.

[00:51:40]>> Original also Jesus in the God spell.

[00:51:46]>> What do you think? What do you think is more horrifying for his memory of his career? Dancing on the top of the World Trade Center in Godfell or the poop in the toilet.

[00:51:55]>> The poop. My god.

[00:52:00]Equally as iconic though. Both tragedies.

[00:52:06]>> I just can't. Okay. Cute.

[00:52:08]>> Me and Jody are doing aviation month over on on my podcast over there.

[00:52:13]We're doing Sully next week. Anyway, um, where are we here?

[00:52:18]>> Samantha fights with the girls. B Oh, burger.

[00:52:21]>> Oh, no. At the poolside, Carrie and Stanford talk about Carrie's talking [ __ ] Carrie's making her rounds around the party, talking [ __ ] about Bobby.

[00:52:29]Truly like everywhere she is. And I believe that Bobby was catching wind wind of this because at the end, I think he's dressing her down. Do you guys agree with me? when he's like, "There's my girl who I love in case you money writing on it." I I if I were Carrie, I would have felt very ashamed. I would have felt like he was like he knew I was I've been talking [ __ ] all weekend to anyone who would listen.

[00:52:57]>> I kind of wish they would have had like a [ __ ] fight of some sort. I wished her in the >> He should have He should have been like, "Knock it off. Like, get out of my party."

[00:53:06]Um, okay.

[00:53:10]Also, if this is a beard situation, they are being admittedly um awful to be around. They're so annoying. They're like they're being all kissy and and like ghetto.

[00:53:21]>> I don't want to see that.

[00:53:22]>> I don't ever want to see it. No. No. I don't want to know anyone's even dating.

[00:53:26]>> I don't like that either. But I'm going to give them a slight ounce of empathy here because it's their wedding weekend.

[00:53:33]That's what you would should be doing on your wedding weekend. All right. Well, physically by each other on your wedding weekend. That's not great.

[00:53:41]>> But here's the thing. Like he's So he's like Marcus walks up and he's like, you know, grating cheese on his abs and he's like really going on to to me it seems like it's just an open thing that Bitsy knows that he's gay. Like this seems like this is just kind of the situation like >> and we're open about it.

[00:53:56]>> Yeah, I know. I wish by had been a little bit more accepted uh when we were growing up. Okay. Um I mean even if Okay. Uh, the second they leave, Carrie starts talking [ __ ] This is where I looked up everyone's ages.

[00:54:06]Bitsy's 48. Uh, Samantha asked Carrie if she thinks Richard had ever slept with any of those girls. And Carrie goes, "No, I bet they're just really good friends." Now Burger arrives. And um, Carrie and Burger talk, and then he freaks out. And this is very reminiscent of that episode of Girls that we did where she's with Patrick. Do you watch Girls, Brad?

[00:54:28]>> I watched the first season and I stopped after that. I love Adam Driver, but I don't know the rest.

[00:54:33]>> Of course you love Adam Driver. That is like so >> He's a great actor.

[00:54:38]>> He is a great actor. He sang uh that song Being Alive in that movie.

[00:54:45]>> The movie about the marriage.

[00:54:46]>> Yeah.

[00:54:47]>> Oh yeah. Yeah.

[00:54:47]>> Where was I going with this? Uh girls, there's an episode where where Lena Dunham's like with Patrick Wilson. The whole one man's trash. Remember that?

[00:54:55]It's just her and Patrick Wilson. And they're like [ __ ] And then this is like the exact same situation. She starts like sharing too much of her own trauma and he's like gh. So that's what happens here. Burger runs away. She's like they're talking about their exes and Aiden, he like freaks out, gets on his motorcycle and tries to like drive away and then he's like struggling to get out of the spot and Carrie's just standing there like is everything okay?

[00:55:18]I would be like, I need you to stop watching me. It's like somebody watching you try to parallel park.

[00:55:24]>> Um I like that though because he looks like such a douchebag. I I do think that I'm just gonna still stick with my my feeling that they made all these guys look worse so that big >> so that Alexander >> Oh, Alexander Big.

[00:55:42]>> Who?

[00:55:42]>> Jesus Christ. Alexander Petroski.

[00:55:45]>> No, they make He's terrible, too. So that big looks more appealing.

[00:55:50]>> He's so gross. I can't wait to get into Alexander. I feel like we're going to be so disgusted by >> Samantha. I'm already disgusted.

[00:55:57]>> My phone is blowing up. Nobody ever texts me. Okay. Samantha fights with the girls about um fake boobs. The one girl does not have fake boobs. Always bug me.

[00:56:06]And Samantha throws the melon through the window. This is a iconic moment.

[00:56:09]It's hilarious. Love it.

[00:56:12]>> It is.

[00:56:13]>> Miranda like Carrie's reaction out the w or she's >> what?

[00:56:17]>> It's filmed. Well, she's out the window.

[00:56:20]She reacts. Right.

[00:56:22]>> All of this is directed like wonderfully, honestly. Like the writing of this episode is great. Like how everyone got invited to the wedding. All the stories kind of connect. I'm very impressed. Um, >> so Miranda and Carrie go to breakfast with the with the gays at their little Hampton's house and Carrie, they're playing with Brady and Carrie is talking about burger and she says, "I was emotionally slutty." And um, she says, "Oh, this depressed me." She goes, "Maybe we should just stop expecting a great relationship and settle for a fine one." Well, there's a third option there, Carrie, which is just you don't you could just be single, but like we know from just like that, worse worse fate than death.

[00:57:08]>> You know how that that that is the actual the the tagline of our entire podcast. Single worse.

[00:57:14]>> Single worse than death.

[00:57:16]just think the the grass is always greener.

[00:57:20]>> Yeah, but Carrie's not really saying the grass is always greener. Carrie's just saying that like maybe we should love the one you're with.

[00:57:28]>> Yeah. I mean, I guess that's my little bit of my point, but it's like for me personally, I'm going to be miserable if I'm single or if I'm not. So, >> classic Brad. Um, and I mean like I'm I'm with you there. Also, I'm going through menopause right now. So, by the way, >> you not >> I am in perry menopause.

[00:57:52]>> Really?

[00:57:54]>> Yes. Really? Why would I lie about that?

[00:57:56]That's the [ __ ] worst >> attention.

[00:57:59]Yeah, that's really positive attention.

[00:58:01]Um, Miranda wants to call Steve, >> right?

[00:58:06]>> Yeah. She picks up the She lifts up the phone.

[00:58:09]>> Oh, you have the pictures here.

[00:58:10]>> I put up this picture that you took.

[00:58:13]Okay, sorry. This doesn't happen yet, though. Okay, so Carrie says to Stanford, um, Stany, you did it, Stany. This also proves Car's such a bad friend. She goes, you did it, Stany. You have everything. And then he goes, me and Marcus haven't had sex since we picked out like whatever china. And Carrie goes, oh, thank God. Like, so you can't be happy if everyone around you is happy.

[00:58:37]>> No. like you need everyone else to be kind of depressed with you or doing worse than you.

[00:58:44]>> Thank God she says to him.

[00:58:46]>> I guess I also struggle to understand like why aren't why wouldn't Stanford and Marcus have sex? What? I don't believe that. But okay, sure. I guess.

[00:58:55]>> Well, they break up because he ends up with Anthony. So, we never find out why.

[00:58:59]At the reception now, um the reception is really cute. So, like here's some pictures of the reception. And I mean they just they give their vows. But here's what um the girls Oh, here's the girls.

[00:59:11]>> Carrie looks beautiful here. I really like >> the look.

[00:59:16]>> They all look stunning.

[00:59:19]>> You know when they also looked stunning and sorry I don't have a picture is at Bobby's cabaret thing in the very very beginning of the episode. They all looked >> so good. I was like wow. Um they all look great at the wedding. I really love the wedding. I actually think it's beautiful. I mean, like, >> yeah, >> it's fabulous. I mean, >> well, attendance at the wedding, though, to have these randos get invited the week before. I mean, >> but it's not only randos.

[00:59:46]Like, they like everyone did have legitimate reasons to go.

[00:59:50]>> What about Miranda though?

[00:59:52]>> Um, Miranda's Carrie's date, right? She is.

[00:59:56]She's Car's date. I think Carrie says that.

[00:59:58]>> Okay.

[01:00:00]>> Um, okay.

[01:00:01]>> Miranda. So, we're at the reception.

[01:00:03]Harry's like dancing and he calls Charlotte over and he walks up and he's like, "All right, my back is waxed.

[01:00:08]There's nothing in my teeth. Can you dance with me?" And then she's like into it. So, and the girls like him. The girls are like, "Charlotte, maybe you should like try something with this."

[01:00:17]Although, I do kind of think this is [ __ ] up what Harry does here. So, now Miranda wants to call Steve. Here she is. Brad, as a straight man, do you think that she looks beautiful here? Me and John always talk about how gorgeous she looks.

[01:00:27]>> Yeah, she looks great.

[01:00:29]>> Oh, great. Okay. Um, so but then she he doesn't answer, so she like >> he would be like, "No, she's busted."

[01:00:36]>> No, I'm glad he said No, I'm glad he said that she looks beautiful.

[01:00:39]>> Um, I think straight men have different like eyes than than a straight girl and a gay man probably do. Um, >> so Carrie talks to Nathan Lane. He walks over and he's like, "Can you believe this party?" And then she turns around and oh, by the way, here's a picture of her in her dress. And she again is eight months pregnant here. Like what an amazing costume choice. I'm so impressed.

[01:01:02]>> I mean, >> you can >> you can see it, but you wouldn't notice it.

[01:01:10]>> No, >> you also have to be a size zero to be able to pull this off, though. But >> the scenes earlier, you really can't tell. I her scene with Burger earlier, I was I wouldn't know.

[01:01:19]>> Well, she had an umbrella. I was I was clocking that umbrella.

[01:01:22]>> Okay, so he comes over and he goes, "Um, yeah." So, like, thanks for coming to the wedding or whatever. And then is that all there is? Starts uh playing the wedding singer. And then Bitsy's on the dance floor and he goes, "There's my song and there's my girl." And he takes a long a long slow burn over to Carrie who I love in case she had any money writing on it. And then Carrie says, "Not a penny." As if she's this good friend and has been supportive this whole weekend. I couldn't believe it.

[01:01:56]Well, added to the list of why Carrie Bradshaw sucks, you guys.

[01:02:02]>> Yeah, I guess I never realized how bad of a character she is.

[01:02:06]>> You don't until you do a rewatch with like this kind of lens.

[01:02:10]>> They slow down.

[01:02:10]>> There will be to a lot of people who don't think she's a bad friend, but we'll see. Guys, I'm excited to see how the comments how what the comments are like.

[01:02:21]>> He's so worried about that. He's so worried about the comments. He lo He lives in the comments. He loves it.

[01:02:26]>> Yeah.

[01:02:26]>> I'm like, you could just not read them.

[01:02:27]But he loves it. He loves being in there um in the [ __ ] >> Who doesn't read the comments?

[01:02:33]>> Anyway, >> I don't. Okay. Well, anyway, I I read the YouTube comments. Uh I c because I want to curate them. Okay. Uh there's my song. There's my girl. Oh. Oh, by the way, on that note, Brad, girls in their 20s like Carrie >> because that's like kind of like the same amount of like good friend she is and like the kind of decisions she makes in dating. So now as a 43y old watching this, I'm like, Carrie sucked. The only good friend is is Samantha and sometimes Miranda. Burger approaches and he goes, "Yeah, the groom invited me." Because I guess Bobby Fine is so [ __ ] horny for a straight dick that even at his wedding, he invites he invites Burger.

[01:03:13]Um, Burger approaches Carrie. Um, here's a picture of the two of them together.

[01:03:19]Oh, wait, sorry, here it is.

[01:03:22]I mean, okay. He looks sloppy as [ __ ] though. But anyway, >> I just >> Okay. Uh, >> so gross. I don't like I don't think that they make him seem appealing in this at all.

[01:03:37]>> Well, he's got that zaza zoo.

[01:03:40]>> I I I kind of did. Well, I don't know.

[01:03:42]More than Aiden. Harry and Charlotte now dance. And I think that this is [ __ ] up. I think that like once Charlotte started coming around more than once and they're eating pizza together in bed, you should have told her this, but she's like, "Harry, I think I'm falling in love with you." And he's like, "I've been falling in love with you since I laid eyes on you, lady." And then she goes, "Oh, like, well, what do we He's like, I can't marry you because you're not a you're not Jewish and I I'm Jewish." And she's like, "Well, now what do we do?" And he goes, "Let's just keep dancing." Which is from which is what Richard says to Monica and Friends when they decide they have to break up, by the way. and and um Carrie does a voiceover of a zaza Jew joke. John, you want to cut that later?

[01:04:23]>> I don't care. That actually is whatever.

[01:04:25]I don't care about that part. I'm more questioning like what if these Okay, this makes me hate Harry. I know he ranked very high in our ranking of the men. Number two, I think about our other video friends. Um, but I think he's really [ __ ] here because clearly if you are 40ome years old, sweetie, and you are >> his parents are are dead, by the way. He says in here, even though he has a dad and just like that, but he does say later, both my parents are dead.

[01:04:56]>> Oh, yeah.

[01:04:58]>> Brad, you should watch And just like that and start your own podcast where you just talk about it and be like, what was that?

[01:05:07]There's an untopranos.

[01:05:11]>> You should definitely start your a podcast because I think that the world needs >> another podcast.

[01:05:18]>> I always told him he should do a Sopranos podcast. He honestly like knows trivia from Sopranos that like no one knows.

[01:05:25]>> Well, be prepared for people to tell you you still don't know what you're talking about. And um >> he gets so upset. It's like one person says something and he can't forget it.

[01:05:35]Okay. Burgers says Burger says he wants to give love a try, I guess, or him.

[01:05:41]He's like, "Yeah, I'm back."

[01:05:43]>> Um, that's it. And then they all dance.

[01:05:45]Samantha Oh, it's there's a cute little moment between Samantha and Miranda.

[01:05:50]That's cute. And they're dancing with Brady. Samantha seems to have forgiven the baby for existing. And um, it says, "When it comes to relationships, maybe we're all in glass houses and shouldn't throw stones because you never really know. Some people are settling down. Some people are settling and some people refuse to settle for anything less than butterflies because she's better than everyone.

[01:06:16]>> That is what she's saying.

[01:06:18]>> She is. I mean, really. Sadly, >> that's the episode.

[01:06:22]>> Well, Brad, >> I'm gear I'm [ __ ] geared up. I'm warmed up for a Patreon episode.

[01:06:31]>> Are you glad you'll loosen up a little?

[01:06:33]>> I'm here. I mean, I'm I'm sorry for your listeners because this was basically just for me because I don't have much to add about Sex in the City, but >> I thought you were great.

[01:06:43]>> I put this on YouTube sometimes when the boys are gone.

[01:06:48]>> This >> cuz I miss you guys. Yeah. And it's fun like nostalgia.

[01:06:52]>> I told John that a couple months ago.

[01:06:55]>> Yeah. It's nice.

[01:06:57]>> That is nice. We talk very lovely on about you on here. We always stay positive, so you >> Thank you.

[01:07:03]>> We do. There's no Steve impression, which I really enjoy your Steve impressions. So, >> um Steve Miranda, I MEAN that's >> I picked him out in Queens.

[01:07:17]>> He's not even in here, >> unfortunately.

[01:07:20]>> Was he in that tragically hip episode that you watched?

[01:07:24]>> I don't think so.

[01:07:25]>> Did he have on uh what's it called? Uh Coney Island with Aiden. Guys, we're we're really happy that you guys were here and settled through. We made it through season five.

[01:07:39]>> Oh my gosh. Season we're we're rounding out to the end of the series and >> I'm freaked out because what's at the end of a rainbow?

[01:07:51]>> You guys, >> we love you guys. Brad's gonna be on our Brad's gonna be on our Patreon. So, make sure that you join our Patreon. This is the time to do it. Actually, one of our listeners, Rebecca, who lives in Berlin, who's a scientist, Brad, has sent a whole bunch of questions for you.

[01:08:08]>> Oh, wow. She did.

[01:08:10]>> Yeah.

[01:08:10]>> Nervous.

[01:08:12]>> They're cute. They're cute questions.

[01:08:13]>> Excited. And that one actually, too.

[01:08:15]Brad will get to probably engage more because, you know, he was there. He lived it. You guys, um, check out all of our stuff. Hit subscribe, hit like, hit share, all of that crap. And, uh, leave us a fivestar review, please. Anything lower?

[01:08:31]>> I'm sorry if I offended you.

[01:08:34]>> Brad, wait.

[01:08:36]>> Um, I wasn't offended. Do you >> I'm woke.

[01:08:40]>> Do you want to promote You are Do you want to promote anything >> at all?

[01:08:44]>> Nope. I just work a normal job and yeah, I don't have anything to promote.

[01:08:49]>> Can I'm going to say something really quickly on the main feed here. Um, that one of like my one of like the mo the stories that I like to tell the most because like me and Jod are both so into true crime is that you and me found the apartment that Bob Crane was murdered in and walked up to it in Scottsdale.

[01:09:05]>> Yep.

[01:09:07]>> And that was so invigorating. Oh, Joan, >> you watch autofocus. We should add autofocus to uh to one of our movies.

[01:09:16]>> Autofocus.

[01:09:17]>> Oh man, >> it's gay. It's definitely gay.

[01:09:19]>> It's gay.

[01:09:20]It's John doesn't like movies that aren't gay or content that isn't gay.

[01:09:25]>> Yeah, >> but it's it's gay. Well, anyway, we'll more on that in our >> directly gay, but it needs to be adjacent. You guys, Brad, we'll see you later, sweetie pie. We love you guys so much.

[01:09:39]>> See you. Bye.