Judge Fleischer Stops the Hearing After One Shocking Record

[00:00:00]Judicial Edge The Pursuit of Truth >> back, I have no idea. So, let's get to know.

[00:00:10]Amy?

[00:00:11]>> Uh Judge, so he's wanted from Guadalupe County, New Mexico. Aggravated battery against a household member with a deadly weapon. Uh the court notes he's also being called in the 351st for credit and debit card abuse.

[00:00:22]>> No, I had no idea. Say say it.

[00:00:23]>> And I believe they also just filed a motion to revoke um his probation on the fraud use cuz he's >> He's on probation, [clears throat] too?

[00:00:30]>> Yes, and they're motioning to revoke as well. He also has two bond forfeitures that I'm seeing. And then he has quite a bit of history with burglaries and >> My gosh.

[00:00:39]Whoa.

[00:00:42]>> Can in a bond request turns into something else entirely. Judge Fleischer starts reviewing a record that stretches across multiple states. Probation violations, new charges, warrants stacking up. The defense tries to explain the timeline, but the judge isn't looking at excuses. He's looking at risk. And before this hearing ends, one sentence defines everything.

[00:01:03]>> Morning, Mr. Kimball.

[00:01:04]>> How you doing?

[00:01:05]>> Pretty good. Um so, I've never met you before. I don't know who you are. All I know is that your lawyer is asking me to I'm assuming set him a bond. Right?

[00:01:17]Um you know, you're want you're wanted from somewhere. I don't know for what. I don't know why.

[00:01:24]Um I don't know if I'm going to set you bond. I got to get to know you in the short time that I have you here to see are you a danger to my community. If we give you a bond, are you going to go back? I have no idea. So, let's get to know.

[00:01:35]Amy?

[00:01:36]>> Uh Judge, so he's wanted from Guadalupe County, New Mexico. Aggravated battery against a household member with a deadly weapon. Uh the court notes he's also being called in the 351st for credit and debit card abuse.

[00:01:47]>> No, I had no idea. Say say it.

[00:01:48]>> I believe they also just filed a motion to revoke um his probation on the fraud use cuz he's He's on probation, too?

[00:01:55]Yes, and they're motioning to revoke as well. He also has two bond forfeitures that I'm seeing and then he has quite a bit of history with burglaries and >> My gosh.

[00:02:04]Woah.

[00:02:08]So, since 2007, possession of marijuana, possession of a controlled substance, shh, evading arrest, possession of a controlled substance, felony possession of a weapon, attempted evading arrest or detention, tampering with tampering or fabricating evidence, evading arrest, and previous conviction, burglary of a building, possession of a controlled substance, burglary of a motor vehicle, evading arrest, credit card abuse, burglary of a motor vehicle, evading, credit card abuse, possession with intent to deliver, and 1 2 3 4 more burglary of a motor vehicles, fairy type D, possession of a dangerous drug.

[00:02:41]You're on probation for a fraud.

[00:02:45]You pick up a new credit card abuse, and you want me to set you a bond.

[00:02:50]>> Yes. Uh Uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh can I please tell you something? If you don't mind me speaking.

[00:02:57]>> Don't talk about the case.

[00:02:58]>> I'm not talking about no case.

[00:03:00]>> Okay.

[00:03:00]>> Uh I was in here uh been held on uh the case for defending violence in New Mexico, right? And they just put I got called ATW twice.

[00:03:12]They did not release me.

[00:03:14]They I was not released. They sent me back to my cell, and since they didn't release me, they end up putting a credit card abuse on me.

[00:03:22]Now, I don't know you know, where that falls in or whatever, you know, they just put it on me.

[00:03:28]>> So, if I can give you a brief synopsis and a timeline, judge?

[00:03:32]>> Sure.

[00:03:32]>> So, January 15th, he waived extradition for his New Mexico uh case, which is why we have the feature on him.

[00:03:41]He also had a Dallas County hold at the same time, which means Dallas >> He has another hold.

[00:03:46]>> True, but but Dallas County had 10 days to pick him up. So, they did not pick him up in those 10 days. So, let's say January >> I I know that. I get it.

[00:03:56]>> Let's just say, okay. So, they didn't release the whole They should have released the whole 25th. They didn't.

[00:04:01]What they did is instead 3 days later >> him to the Dallas County hold.

[00:04:06]>> Dallas County hold. So, what should have happened is that on the 25th they released the Dallas County hold, which at that moment there was no locals or anything pending and they should have started the timeline for New Mexico to come pick him up.

[00:04:17]But instead Dallas did not release the hold until I believe the 29th because conveniently on the 28th the DA's office filed 2B charges on a credit card abuse from a case that they had had since November.

[00:04:31]So, just >> December.

[00:04:33]I see here December 22nd, 2024.

[00:04:35]>> That's right. From December, you're right. So, it just seemed like that the timeline expired. I believe Mr. Kimball's just really upset because if it should have worked like it should have worked, then um you know, why didn't they release the hold in time? Why did the DA's office file it? It just seems like they're short dragging it along. I understand that he does not have a bond on his felony cases and they are going to they did file the MRP. He has an attorney there who is going to be requesting to set a bond there. What Mr. Kimball is asking is a bond here even though and I said, you know, he's going to be making the bond there in felony. So, let's say his bonds get set in felony and his bond gets set here. He wants to bond out and go to New Mexico, address that case and then he said he'll be back in court.

[00:05:18]He's already got the MRP in the felony credit abuse case here.

[00:05:24]But he wants to be able to fight them in the free world and he is willing to go to New Mexico, turn himself in. I've been in contact with his mother.

[00:05:33]And I guess just because of that lapse in timeline, it's kind of like why we're here because you know, and pardon if you have anything else to add, I think he just feels kind of screwed by the system on this.

[00:05:45]Is there anything else, Mr. Kimball, that I missed?

[00:05:46]>> Uh no. Did she send the video to your phone?

[00:05:49]>> Shh.

[00:05:49]>> Oh, all right.

[00:05:52]>> In 2023 alone, Mr. Kimmel, you have 1 2 3 4 5 6.

[00:06:00]In one of the misdemeanor cases, you have presumably a bond at 5,010, which tells me that you've taken off on that case as well. You're on probation. You had a hold at a Dallas for What did he have a hold at a Dallas for?

[00:06:15]>> violation >> Uh, on a Dallas?

[00:06:18]>> You You You're hopscotching with the states with the criminality, man. I can't >> no, look. Look, I had all the cases together and they gave me probation in Houston and Dallas. See, that's what you don't know. They dismissed the all A bunch of them cases has been dismissed.

[00:06:30]And I went to trial twice. A bunch of them cases has been expunged on the on the record right there that you're saying. You know what I'm saying? But Um, they gave me probation in Dallas and Houston. Dallas is supposed to transfer my probation to Houston. They didn't not transfer my probation to Houston. That's how I get a violation in Dallas. I never violated by catching any new case. Only time I caught a case is when I for the New Mexico, say something happened in a family violence 2020 what? 32024. I never even been to New Mexico. The girl wrote a statement on me saying that I I violated whatever. I understand I understand I know I'm not supposed to tell you nothing, but I got video. She's saying everything that she said is a lie. I don't even supposed to be having a case for new I wouldn't even even supposed to come to jail for that case.

[00:07:15]She has the videos in her phone. She can show you. She's showing her ID, everything, made a whole statement saying that everything that she said is to me in New Mexico is a lie, bro. I'm just driving home for this case.

[00:07:26]>> We really >> I I understand that.

[00:07:28]>> It doesn't matter.

[00:07:29]>> Yes, sir. I understand that.

[00:07:32]>> What seems to me >> Yes, sir.

[00:07:34]>> You get out.

[00:07:36]You pick up a new case.

[00:07:37]You're out. You just picked up a new credit card abuse 2 weeks ago.

[00:07:44]The same 22nd, I mean maybe two three weeks ago you you just picked up another case. You're on probation in Houston, you're on probation in Dallas, you got an open case in in New Mexico.

[00:07:54]>> Yes, sir.

[00:07:56]>> I can't possibly give you a bond, Mr. Campbell. You know, I I think that I need to protect my community. And if I give you a bond, I'm scared that something else is going to happen. I don't want you to pick up a sixth or seventh case, you know?

[00:08:09]>> I ain't pick up a case. I came to jail for a case a year ago for New Mexico. I was already on probation.

[00:08:15]>> picked it up.

[00:08:15]>> No, they just put a case on me.

[00:08:18]But I was in in custody. I I didn't ever get caught for anything. They just put a case on me while I've been in custody right now. This time waiting on New Mexico and Dallas to come get me. They just put this case on me.

[00:08:29]They just put this on me.

[00:08:31]>> I want to make sure that there no more new cases get on you anymore.

[00:08:35]I'm not going to give you a bond because Mr. Campbell, you scare me. You know, you you you do.

[00:08:41]>> I never had a aggravated case. I never I look, I never had a aggravated case in my life. You see my record, I never had a aggravated case.

[00:08:47]>> I don't see The only thing I see is Harris >> everything you're saying. I never had a aggravated case out of Harris County, Dallas, anywhere in Texas, ever.

[00:08:57]Ever.

[00:09:00]>> Ever.

[00:09:01]>> you, but it's just way too much baggage, dude. Way too much.

[00:09:05]>> What I'm saying, you can't just set a bond on a case and when I go to court, you know what I'm saying? I talk to my other judge, she give me a bond on them cases or whatever, where I can go handle everything that I need to handle so I can get out and be with my kids. You know what I'm saying? Because if I don't So say if they do set the bond when I go to court cuz they're going to give me a court date like a week or two. I'm going to go to court, they're going to set a bond for me. So they set a bond. Now you I got to come back to your courtroom again for you to say, "Oh, well, I'm I'm not going to give you a bond." or whatever. Or they got 14 days to come get me. Well, actually I really supposed to already been gone to either Dallas or New Mexico cuz they called me ATW twice and they said they was not going to come get me.

[00:09:46]And we called the New Mexico. New Mexico said they didn't have any knowledge of me even being in jail on their warrant.

[00:09:52]>> Does New Mexico have they stated that they're going to come get him?

[00:09:55]>> Our indication at this time is that they want him, Judge.

[00:09:57]>> Okay. They're going to come get you. You know the problem is is that that 14 days is told because you've not made bond on those cases upstairs. Once you do make bond at that point, that will get the 14 days for New Mexico to come get you.

[00:10:12]But, Mr. Kimble, you've got a ton of priors. You're on probation in two ca- in two different counties. You got an execute. Okay. Regardless, it's too much baggage. I'm not going to give you a bond. You scare me, dude.

[00:10:25]That's it.

[00:10:27]Really. You know, sometimes the bill comes.

[00:10:31]>> This next case looks simple at first. A man on a bicycle runs from police. But, what happens when the judge asks one question?

[00:10:39]What was he actually doing wrong?

[00:10:40]>> 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 Now 20 one cases.

[00:11:02]Just since 2020.

[00:11:05]Possession 1 to 4. Unauthorized use.

[00:11:09]Possession 4 to 200.

[00:11:12]21. Evading arrest.

[00:11:14]Felony theft. Felony assault.

[00:11:17]Felony possession of a controlled substance. Possession of a controlled substance. Possession of a controlled substance. Now 24. Possession of a controlled substance. Possession of a controlled substance. Assault.

[00:11:26]Unauthorized absence from correctional facility. PCS.

[00:11:30]Now 25. Just in 25. PCS. Unauthorized use. And now you have innovating arrest.

[00:11:40]>> A lot of those guys >> Stop.

[00:11:42]I didn't ask you to say anything.

[00:11:45]You missed court, and now you are here.

[00:11:49]If you ever miss court again, and let me tell you something, Mr. Price, I'm going to do everything in my power to protect my city at all costs. If I find that you are one iota a danger to it, it's really not going to go well for you. Do you understand me?

[00:12:12]You are now charged with evading arrest or detention. You're facing up to a year in jail and or a $4,000 fine. We are going to do probable cause. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you. You have the right to have an attorney present. If you cannot afford one, one will be appointed to you.

[00:12:28]>> Thank you, Judge.

[00:12:29]On April 14th, 2025, in Harris County, Texas, an officer was patrolling the area of 999 Pasadena Boulevard, the Macroplaza Mall.

[00:12:39]The mall is closed during the early morning hours when this incident occurred, and no maintenance or cleaning personnel were on scene.

[00:12:45]999 Pasadena Boulevard is near 1202 Pasadena Boulevard, which the officer knows from training and experience to be a high drug area. The officer observed the defendant standing near a mechanical box on the side of the main building of 999 Pasadena Boulevard.

[00:13:01]The defendant looked at the officer, who was in a marked patrol unit, and began walking toward his bicycle, which was laying on the ground nearby.

[00:13:10]Due to the above circumstances, as well as defendant's suspicious behavior, the officer initiated a subject stop on the defendant due to reasonable suspicion.

[00:13:19]The officer activated emergency traffic lights and began sounding the siren of a marked patrol unit.

[00:13:25]The defendant continued to ride his bicycle away from the officer, standing up on the seat of his bicycle to accelerate faster.

[00:13:31]The defendant eventually fell off the bicycle and continued to evade on foot until he fell in the roadway of the 900 block of Pasadena Boulevard.

[00:13:40]The defendant evaded the officer for approximately 736 ft.

[00:13:45]>> The hell was he doing wrong?

[00:13:46]>> Riding a bicycle while white?

[00:13:49]>> I'm doing anything.

[00:13:51]>> Just presumptive, please.

[00:13:53]>> This case shows how DWI stops can fall apart. The officer lists driving behavior, but Judge Flesher is focused on one issue. Is there actual evidence or just assumptions?

[00:14:03]>> Sir, you're charged with driving while intoxicated.

[00:14:06]You were facing up to 6 months in jail and/or a $2,000 fine.

[00:14:10]>> I don't understand at all.

[00:14:10]>> We're going to do probable cause. You have the right to remain silent.

[00:14:13]Anything you say can and will be used against you.

[00:14:16]You have the right to have an attorney present. If you cannot afford one, one will be appointed to you, sir.

[00:14:24]>> On February 13th officers observed Nissan SUV failed to maintain a single five times and observed it to slow down and rapidly several times before initiating the traffic stop.

[00:14:48]The officer observed the defendant to be intoxicated and the way he was responding to the officer's and struggled to locate The defendant advised he was coming from a wedding and he had one beer.

[00:15:09]Standard field sobriety four out of six four out of eight three out of four The defendant consented to breath >> You said that he five times failed to maintain a single lane of traffic.

[00:15:41]And you said that he slowed down and then he sped up.

[00:15:47]What else?

[00:15:49]Cuz as far as the five, that's just completely conclusory. So, I take nothing with it, right?

[00:15:55]I mean, everybody slows down, goes back fast. So, what else do you have as far as any kind of traffic infraction other than that?

[00:16:16]>> [clears throat] >> I just say that >> Cases all turn on the same principle.

[00:16:23]The court is not guessing whether it's bond decisions, police stops, or DWI cases, Judge Flesher is looking for clear, articulable facts. When someone presents a pattern of risk, bond disappears. When officers fail to explain what actually happened, cases fall apart. That's the courtroom turning point when assumptions meet legal standards. Subscribe to Judicial Edge for more real courtroom breakdowns.