Why Does Everyone Hate 9 to 5 Jobs?

Añadido: 2026-05-04

[00:00:00]You always see these manosphere influencers talk bad about 9 to 5 jobs like it's, you know, this huge mock of shame. Oh, if you have a 9 to-five job, you're just a piece of [ __ ] basically, right?

[00:00:13]>> I think so many of you out there, you're existing in your peasant life. You wake up when the alarm goes off.

[00:00:20]You go to your job. And you know, they always talk about how bad it is to have to go to work and do things for other people, how bad it is to have a boss.

[00:00:31]And it's just like I don't agree. Like I I don't think it's this universally negative thing. I'm on like the farthest end of the spectrum. I've never had a salary job in my entire life. Looking at it from the outside, 9 to 5 jobs seem kind of good. Like I'm sorry, but they do. The costbenefit analysis I think is so [ __ ] skewed to be against 9 toive jobs and salaried jobs that you know are we forgetting the benefits of having a 9 toive job cuz I can think of many people that have a salaried job they can just clock in and clock out and never have to think about any existential problems with a business. They never have to think about it. Right? Whereas when you're self-employed or you own a business, you're constantly thinking about this, that, and the third outside of your work hours, you know, you've got like, you know, thinking about like lawsuits and profitability. Oh, what's the business, you know, what what's the environment going to be like for this business in like the next few years? Oh, am I paying this guy enough or am I not paying this man? Like, there's so much [ __ ] There's so much [ __ ] [ __ ] that you have to worry about if you're self-employed that someone salaried never has to worry about. Like you you can have like a boss like worrying about like lawsuits and profitability this quarter and all of that and like the salaried guy is just like, "Oh gee, that sounds pretty bad.

[00:01:57]Anyway, it's five. I got to go back home." There's just this level of calmness that I imagine you would have if you had a 9 to-ive job where you know the worst you have to worry about is getting fired. Like if you just like don't do your job and you're not profitable enough for the boss or whatever that's it. Like that's it. Like you don't have to worry about you know working and not getting paid. Whereas if you're self-employed that's a real [ __ ] possibility. In fact it's almost certain right? Like, you know, if you do any self-employment, any kind of job yourself, you know, it it's it's bound to be that at least you'll be working hard and not making any money. In fact, you'll be losing money cuz you got to like invest money into X, Y, and Z. I know normies, they'd [ __ ] hate that.

[00:02:45]They'd hate it. Who else has left a job that you're like not the happiest at because of like company changes and then like 3 four months later you're like damn I probably should have not left.

[00:02:58]>> They'd hate having to work not only not getting paid but losing money while working hard. Oh man, nobody wants to [ __ ] deal with that except a very few amount of people, right? And it's just this very warped costbenefit analysis that we have in society when it comes to 9 to 5 jobs and how gassed up self-employment and you know owning your own business has like it's so gassed up.

[00:03:22]The thing with being self-employed or you know working for yourself like it it's so [ __ ] feast or famine. It's so feast or famine but like everyone just looks at the feast but never looks at the famine. It it's kind of like this thing that feminists do where they portray the male experience as this amazing party where there's no worries and everything's great and you you know you're just bound for success if you're a man. You know they they always talk about how men are over represented in like you know highpaying executive jobs or the highest paid athletes all men.

[00:03:57]Like that's the only thing they really care about. Like they the only thing feminists ever talk about when it comes to gender differences is how you know a tiny minority of men are having a really [ __ ] good time compared to women.

[00:04:10]It's like, okay, but what about like all the other negative stats that men are also over represented in, whether it be, you know, drug addiction, homelessness, yourself, like all of these stats that men are over represented in, feminists just never ever ever talk about, right?

[00:04:30]It's only they only [ __ ] want to talk about executives and athletes. That's it. That that's the only like outcome differences that feminists want to talk about. And it's kind of the same with, you know, self-employment. It's like, yeah, there's some like real like success stories, self-made millionaires and people having a great life. They get to travel the world. They have like a real luxurious lifestyle and they can do what they want and they run their business. It looks great, right? But you're not seeing all the other people that [ __ ] just gets brutalized.

[00:05:02]Just they just work to the bone. They lose loads of money and it's just like, oh my god. Like what a [ __ ] hell.

[00:05:08]like uh that kind of life must be right.

[00:05:11]But no, people don't want to talk about that. They they only want to talk about the [ __ ] you know, the the standout examples of of self-employment. It's very disingenuous. It's very [ __ ] disingenuous. I I think self-employment really favors people that are like it's a certain low inhibition personality trait because I know normies and like they don't want to do that. Like they they think they want to be self-employed. They think they want to like work online on their online business and travel to Dubai and do all that [ __ ] They think they want that, but they don't. I think they're laughing that they want to be like that cuz I I don't think they do.

[00:05:46]>> Have no idea how I'm going to make money or what I'm going to do or what it's going to look like.

[00:05:50]>> I think a lot of people genuinely like just being told what to do and that's it. I I just do this. All right, whatever. Yeah. All right. Yeah, do this. Do this. All right, it's fine. I'm I'm back home. I think people like that.

[00:06:01]I think most people like that. They don't like just being left alone, left to your own devices, right? Adapt or die. I don't think people like that. I I I don't think most people like that.

[00:06:13]I've had this conversation like I think like three dozen times in my lifetime where, you know, I talk about that I I do YouTube and like I I travel around while I do it. People always say, "Oh, I'd like to do that, too. I'm thinking about starting a YouTube channel myself." I always like, you know, catch up with them later, like a few months later, and and ask them, "How's your YouTube channel going?"

[00:06:35]Of course, none of them start a YouTube channel. None of them do it. Or if they do, it's such a minimal amount of effort. They're just phoning it in. You don't want to do YouTube. You don't want to do it. Like, let's Why are we pretending? Why are you pretending? Why am I pretending? But you want to do this. You don't want to do it. Your actions say otherwise. Okay? They they like the idea in like this abstract idyllic sense of being self-employed.

[00:07:01]They like that concept, but they don't really like the practicality of it. They they don't want to do it. You're left on your own. You have zero pay guarantee.

[00:07:12]All the risk is on you. You're probably going to lose, you know, loads of time and money working hard for nothing.

[00:07:18]Yeah, good luck with that. Have fun with that. Most people [ __ ] hate that.

[00:07:22]They [ __ ] hate it. they don't want to do it obviously like I in the end I prefer to be self-employed but that's me and I see the benefits like I see the appeal of you know having a salary job but like I I do like what do you mean like I I can just go to work I go to a place I spend a few hours there doing XYZ when 5:00 hits I can just switch my brain off mad like that that sounds [ __ ] good like I don't have to be pacing around my room thinking about this that and preferred like I I can just, you know, [ __ ] clock out. Like that just sounds good. Like I'm sorry that that that sound I I see the appeal, right? I see the appeal with that. And notice how I'm talking, right? Like I I'm being very reasonable. I'm looking at like the I'm I'm I'm weighing up the pros and cons of of both, right? And I don't think there is a right answer.

[00:08:12]Like I don't think, you know, one is better than the other objectively. It really comes down to your personal tastes. If your personality structure isn't built for self-employment, don't pretend like you want to do self-employment. Like, you know, the last person you should lie to is yourself. That's the last person you should lie to. Like, this is me when I was 13. You know, look at that piece of [ __ ] right? Like, look at that hustler.

[00:08:37]You know, I I was I've always been a little schemy hustler. Like, that that's always been me, right? That's always been me. Even when I was like a kid, like I I did like this thing way back in the 2000s. There was this uh this stupid business model where I I figured out how to like get a bunch of thirdw worlders to like sign up under my affiliate link and I was making like 25 bucks a day doing literally nothing when I was like 13 or 14. Like and people say personality isn't genetic. I I I disagree. I I think you're the personality you are. I'm exactly the same as I was when I was about 13 years old. I'm just a more exaggerated version. Let let's stop pretending le let's stop pretending that there's not downsides and upsides to a nineto-five job when they clearly is.