Greg Locke's 'Witches' Tell Their Side of the Story

追加: 2026-05-24

[00:00:08][applause] >> Y'all don't clap too much, you taking my time. Praise God. Don't clap too much, you're taking my time.

[00:00:15]>> [laughter] >> He's got stuff to say. Hi, I'm former Fundie. Welcome to my channel if you are new. If you are a returning viewer, thank you so much. I really appreciate you, and if you aren't subscribed, please consider doing so. Do you remember how a while back Greg Locke said he was going to be less political?

[00:00:32]He was going to, you know, stay out of politics. So, some of y'all are going to get past, or at least if you're going to stick around, you're going to have to get past the notion that because we're coming into important year that I'm about to amp things up.

[00:00:45]Oh, I am, but I'm not amping it up on politics. I'm not. And then shortly after he went on InfoWars. The media has so lied, people don't understand what really is going on in Israel, Gaza, with the, you know, the Houthis, whatever.

[00:00:59]Well, a few months ago he spoke in uh Mar-a-Lago at the Jerusalem Prayer Breakfast. And uh it doesn't really get more political than that. There's two reasons I stand for Israel. I have a Bible and I have a brain. So, a obvious Zionist there. I have a very hard time with people who have decided that being anti-Zionist is anti-Semitic. You can be against a government, any government, and what it is doing, but that doesn't mean that you hate the people of the country who are currently living under that government, or who are ethnically tied or related to that government in some way. There is a distinct difference between Jewish people and the current Israeli government. Those are not the same thing and you can criticize the current Israeli government and administration and you can rightfully point out the way that they are committing a genocide and are now using their same just very disgusting tactics of ignoring ceasefires in Lebanon because they decided to use the war that we're not calling technically a war here in the US against Iran to attack Lebanon to go after Hezbollah allegedly. And while Israel is claiming that they're not trying to take any Lebanese land, they're doing the exact same tactics as before where they're bombing areas and then sending people into them. So, it's not it's not good. It's not great and being the type of person that supports that is also not great. So, people like Greg Locke, I always wonder if they're just so convinced that the Bible is telling them that they have to be pro-Israel that that makes them think that they just have to accept everything the current Israeli administration does blindly without looking into the facts or seeing what's really happening and then they're just like eating up the Israeli propaganda and choosing to believe that instead of all of the just horrific things that we've seen coming out of both wars. But, I actually wanted to talk about today is older, back from when he was accusing people in his congregation of being witches. Recently, they have come and spoken out and did a full interview with the Royce Report. Um I highly recommend the Royce Report. They are just really good about telling some of the news that's happening within Evangelical Christianity that other places just will not take. They were one of the ones to break the news on Michael Tate and all of the bad things he was doing. In fact, the Newsboys are currently suing the Royce Report over that, which I'm sorry, if you're like a Newsboys fan at this point, the fact that they're suing the Royce Report, I don't know, it just makes them seem like they're on Michael Tate's side, even though we know that Michael Tate was sexually assaulting people.

[00:04:29]Anyway, the couple that Greg accused of being witches, Gina and Brian Warren, they actually have their own ministry as well, but they were doing security for Greg's church for free until they were just suddenly told to never come back.

[00:04:45]And that's when Greg started telling the congregation that they were witches and that some of them some of the people in the congregation might have curses on them because like Gina or Brian prayed over them and put curses on them. Some of you got curses that HAVE BEEN SPOKEN OVER YOU BECAUSE SHE PRAYED OVER YOU.

[00:05:05]YOU GOT TO BREAK THAT CURSE OFF IN THE NAME OF JESUS. SHE'S A WITCH. Gina and Brian have now come out to talk about why they were kicked out of Greg's church unceremoniously. And so, while I do highly recommend watching the Royce Report podcast where they are interviewed, it is just about like 10 minutes shy of being 2 hours long. So, instead, I figured I would show you maybe a few relevant clips and just give you a summary of the things that this couple is saying that they knew about Greg and his ministry and is the real reason that they were kicked out of his church. And I just want to uh uh be clear, I'm not necessarily in endorsing the Warrens and lifting them up as good people. In fact, the reason that they started to go to Greg's church in the first place was because it was during the pandemic. My wife and I were definitely not a believer in wearing the mask and all that stuff. So, he was out there very vocal um and defending, you know, people their freedom of of not wearing that and and having people in church. So, we're like, "Wow, you know, this guy is out there on the front lines speaking the truth." I'm not saying that these are good people.

[00:06:23]However, I do think it is very interesting to find out why they were kicked out and why they were labeled witches by Greg. So, I think something that's very interesting to note here is that not too long before the Locks decided to just completely cut the Warrens out and then accuse them of witchcraft, they asked this couple, so, Greg and Tai or Taisha Lock asked this couple to mentor them. They actually asked us to mentor them. So, now we have transitioned from security, you know, we transitioned from that and Tai began came to me all of the I'm having dreams about you. We're going to do this together all of this stuff. And I'm going to ask if you would mentor me because I don't even have my prayer language. I don't really know all of this stuff. And I said, "Absolutely, you know, I would I would love to mentor you." I will I will say that multiple times in this interview uh Gina straight-up says that Tai is evil, that Greg Lock's second wife Tai is just evil and not a believer and not a Christian.

[00:07:40]And so, because of these things Gina feels comfortable breaking the typical confidentiality that she would keep with the client. This is not a believer. This is not a Christian. She is not your sister. And she is not a pastor's wife. She is evil. According to Gina, when Gina was asked to be Tai's like personal security guard, which is something that Gina doesn't usually do, it's Gina's husband, Brian, who usually does security things, him being an MMA fighter and everything. When she was having an interview with Tai, just to get to know her and to figure out what kind of security needs that she needed, Tai apparently, allegedly, confessed to Gina that she and Greg were in fact having an affair while Greg was still married to his ex-wife, Melissa. But basically, right at the beginning, yes, to answer your question, I was fully aware that it was an affair. But I didn't get into was there repentance, did any That wasn't my job. Remember, I'm not the mentor yet, which we'll get into later. Right now, I'm just her hired security. From information that we get from Gina and Brian here, as well as information we get from other people that Julie interviews, including information shared by Kim Cohen, so Kim Cohen is married to Jason Cohen. Jason Cohen is Tai Locke's brother, and we're going to get more into him in just a little bit. But according to recorded testimony that Julie has with Kim Cohen, she also corroborates this idea of there being an affair, and she also claims that she was one of the ones breaking this information while it was happening, because she would see Greg's car at nights going to Ty's house.

[00:09:43]While he was still technically legally married to Melissa, and she at one point, I guess, took pictures of his car still being there around 2:00 a.m. and he claimed he just fell asleep there, but it was completely innocent.

[00:09:57]And when Kim shared this information with Jason, and again, Jason Cohen is Ty's brother.

[00:10:06]He apparently confronted Greg and said that "If you want to be with my sister, you've got to do this right. You've got to man up and you've got to go before the church and let them know like what's happening, what you did."

[00:10:19]And Greg doesn't do that. He does like a tearful video in his car about how lonely he is now that his cruel evil wife Melissa left him. And again, this is how Greg is painting her.

[00:10:34]I don't think it's an actual reflection on Melissa as a person. So, the very next day, he made a video in his van and it has since went viral and they've turned it into funny little memes and stuff.

[00:10:51]But, he basically cries and says how lonely he is and how Melissa has left him and the kids and they don't know what they're going to do and all these things that he never admitted to him.

[00:11:05]Also, according to interviews with Kim, it sounds like that Melissa saw and noticed that her husband at the time, Greg, was very interested in Ty and paying more attention to her. And so, Melissa was trying really, really hard to lose weight and to be in Kim's words, a more worldly woman like Ty was, but it wasn't enough. And in the end, Greg kind of pushed her out of his life, painted her as crazy, got a divorce, and then, not too long after, got together with Tai, his wife now. And so, this is probably parts of why the Warrens were kicked out, because they have some intimate knowledge of this affair, because Tai, you know, confessed some of it to Gina. Apparently, at the time, Gina just kind of cut her off and said, "Hey, I'm here to be your security, not your therapist." And I stopped her. I said, "First of all, this isn't a trauma counseling session. I'm here for your security." It happens a lot in the church, where people will just like dump stuff on you, and it's like, great. I I want to be helpful and supportive, but you you also probably just need therapy and to see a professional.

[00:12:28]And so, that might be a contributing factor, but this is right at the beginning, and this is before in the timeline when the Locks asked the Warrens to mentor them. I think the next big thing that contributed to the Locks wanting to kick out the Warrens, at least according to the Warrens' testimony, is it appears that perhaps Gina was more effective in ministry than Tai was, and Tai was perhaps jealous.

[00:13:04]There's a situation that Gina talks about where they asked Gina to pray over people for deliverance, and if you've kept track of Greg at all, he's all all about deliverance ministry, has made movies about it at this point, too.

[00:13:20]Apparently, when Gina was praying over people, people were having major breakthroughs, they were crying and like laying on the ground in tears and just the the spirit was really moving.

[00:13:32]And that's just not something that was happening or being experienced when Ty was praying over people allegedly according to what the Warrens are sharing with us. Another tidbit to add here is that the Warrens specifically do some ministry related to helping people and girls out of sex trafficking. And as a Gina Warren especially expresses in the interview multiple times how deliverance from things, especially really hard and difficult things, it isn't just like a one-time prayer and the person is set free. That there is long-time work and helping people work through like the trauma and the shame and all of those things. And so it appears something that was happening is that after people would go to these deliverance services they would then reach out to the Warrens to connect with their ministry to get further help and further counseling to help with whatever breakthroughs they were having. And Ty according to Gina said, "Well, why are they calling your ministry?" That's what we do for a living. You guys don't do that. We do that. You make movies on it.

[00:14:53]We do it for real life. Listen, these people are making movies off this. Not one person was ever prayed for when we were security.

[00:15:02]Mhm. People didn't get prayer. It wasn't like a They just He preached and then they got baptized right away. It went straight to the baptism and then they went to book signing. Okay? This is why this needs to be made clear.

[00:15:15]>> Meet and greet.

[00:15:16]>> It was the meet and greet. So the day that I was given permission and Taisha and Greg both said would first Taisha said, "Would you pray for my sister Monica, the worship leader?"

[00:15:27]That was her sister. So, oh, of course, we'll pray it over their whole family.

[00:15:31]They're weeping, of course. And because I actually care and I actually do hear from the Holy Spirit. And then they said, "Would you please pray for the church?" Well, if that's what you want me to do, okay. I mean, I've been in Africa, Congo. I mean, if you really want to pray and you really want God to move, are you sure?

[00:15:51]So, I did. And that's when people were on the ground weeping, just crying their little hearts out. And I'm in my white pants and I'm on the ground just oh, mascara praying with them. The real thing. That's when that's when the real deliverance started. And that's when they realized, "Why is everybody calling your ministry thing?" So, it sounds like perhaps there was some jealousy going on there. Of you know, why aren't they just staying within our lock ministry? Why aren't they coming to me? Like Ty would be thinking this, perhaps.

[00:16:30]It's just the way it seems in this interview.

[00:16:33]>> Ty looks at me and said, "Well, why are they calling you?"

[00:16:37]That's what she said in the meeting.

[00:16:39]And I said, "Probably cuz you're the one that asked me to pray for everybody."

[00:16:43]And I said, "So, now you need some structure here because you don't you don't deliver people. You don't just lay hands. There needs to be a counseling set up. People need help. They're going to need tended to." And then, I think one of the biggest things because of the events that happened right before them getting kicked out, I think the biggest thing is the next confession that Ty makes to Gina. Apparently, one of the times when Gina was escorting Ty back to her car after service, which was part of her regular duties as Ty's bodyguard.

[00:17:22]Ty says, "You know, Gina, I could really use your help for deliverance in some areas because I've gone through I've gone through some things when I was younger and one of those things she says is that she had sex with her brother."

[00:17:37]And what did she say to you during that conversation? Well, she looks at me and she says things to me about the sentence that I wrote here that you know, I know I've been sent to her and I fill people up with the with great prophetic words and demons can't return.

[00:17:56]Those are her words. You fill them up with prophetic words, demons can't even come back. I've never seen anything like this and you know, I I mean, I need to tell you I've got some some serious wounds myself that I really need some help with and you know, it came from my family and with my brother. And it's not good, you know, and she said some specific things to me and I stopped her and I said, "Listen, this isn't trauma counseling role here in the parking lot. If you want to deal with this, you have to sit with we got to do this properly and I have protocol if I'm counseling someone." And she said, "Yes, I want to set that up with you." And I said, "Okay."

[00:18:35]She has apparent I have never heard them, but apparently she has already put out a lot of tape messages that she suffered at the hands of her brother, but that's not what she told me.

[00:18:48]It wasn't a suffering at the hands of the brother. There was not really a suffering involved. Now, the way that Gina talks about this kind of gives me the ick and I'll get into this just a little bit more. Now, a refresher, that brother is Jason.

[00:19:06]And Gina, the way she talks about it because Ty says to Gina that she had sex with her brother instead of saying she was molested by her brother, Gina felt that this was just really gross and inappropriate.

[00:19:27]And felt weird about the whole thing.

[00:19:29]And again, she kind of stopped Ty because she's working as a bodyguard in that capacity, not a counselor.

[00:19:37]And she said, "Yeah, we can meet and talk about those things, but like not here not here in the parking lot.

[00:19:44]We can like set up an appointment." And that appointment was never set up to work through those things. Now, at this point in the Royce Report podcast, Julie Royce goes on to reach out to a few other people. So, she reaches out and interviews a few different people. Some people just give statements. Some people she has recorded calls for, just depending on what that person was comfortable with. One of the people she interviews is Stephanie Johnson, who was a personal assistant to Greg Locke.

[00:20:15]Apparently, Ty told Stephanie on more than one occasion that her brother had sexually abused her. So, in this case, she is saying abuse, whereas to Gina she hadn't.

[00:20:28]And Stephanie said that it just never sat right with her, that she felt that Ty wasn't telling the truth because of the other evidence around it. Because apparently, anytime that Jason would come and visit, they would be really, really close.

[00:20:49]And it didn't seem like there was any uncomfortability or bad blood between the two. The words that Stephanie uses is that they would be hugging on each other and they were like best friends.

[00:21:02]And Stephanie personally feels, in her words, that when somebody does that to you, you don't act that way around that person.

[00:21:09]Um I don't necessarily think that's true because sometimes people can have like a a fond response to abuse or an appeasement kind of response to an abuser because they feel that that's safer. So, I do not know the situation.

[00:21:26]I can't say if Tai Lock is telling the truth or not about inappropriate contact with her brother. However, uh between this and a few other interviews that Julie did including the interview with Jason's wife, Kim claims that that definitely never happened at all.

[00:21:47]And so, there are a few other people who also just feel like it's a lie. Uh apparently, Tai has even talked about this a few times on the platform and her brother has reached out and said, "Hey, this never happened. Why are you saying that I did this?" So, I will leave that open. I don't know if Tai is telling the truth or if she is lying. If anything did happen inappropriate, that is awful and horrible and I'm really sorry that she went through that if that is the case.

[00:22:28]Uh like I said earlier, I did feel watching the interview a little icky about Gina just kind of assuming that it was consensual sex between them just because Tai apparently didn't use the word molest or abuse when she talked with her, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything either because it if you're dealing with shame about it and you're trying to like rationalize Hey, something if you're trying to rationalize something bad that happened to you, sometimes you will downplay it and won't use the you know, the right buzzwords. But, it is uh interesting to have these other interviews that Julie reached out and asked these other people and the consensus from the people she interviewed seems to be that the testimony felt off and or they feel that it never happened at all and that it was a lie.

[00:23:29]So, that's the information that we have.

[00:23:34]But, I just want to reiterate that according to Kim Callan, Ty's sister Maria Conley, and Stephanie Johnson, Ty's former best friend and assistant, there is no truth to Ty's story that she was molested by her brother. She just lies to curry favor with certain groups of people.

[00:23:52]And that is quite a story to make up if in fact Ty did make it up. But again, Ty's closest to her say that's just what Ty does. I don't think it was necessarily Ty telling Gina this that was the nail in the coffin. I think it's what happened later. So, apparently not too long after that, the Warrens and the Locks had another private meeting with each other as they often did because the Warrens were mentoring the Locks at that time. And this was the last meeting that the four would have according to the Warrens and the last contact that the Warrens would have with the Locks according to the Warrens. Greg did not reach out to dismiss them. He had his enforcer call them and tell them that they were essentially fired and to not come back and basically then hung up on them.

[00:24:44]But, in this meeting with the four of them, Gina felt that the Holy Spirit was telling her to speak over uh Greg and Ty and to give them a warning that they were at sort of a turning point and a breaking point in their ministry where they could either continue down the path that they were going on or they could kind of turn and repent and do things better. And in doing this, Gina called out that apparently there were some gay uh pastors and she felt that was inappropriate. The power of God just came over me and I looked at them and I just began to prophesy saying, "You guys got a situation in this place. It is final cuts. You cannot keep going the direction where you're going. You have got gay pastors. You have got homosexuals working with you in this camp and the Lord will not have it. It's got to be dealt with before you move forward." And she also said there was incest in the camp. Now, I will point out that in this podcast, Julie Royce is the one to say this, but she appears to be quoting something that Gina told her. And while Gina agrees that she said this in the interview, she never herself repeats this exact phrasing of there being incest in the camp.

[00:26:08]>> Well, and we can just say factually on the the 23rd, she told you about this um sexual situation with her brother.

[00:26:20]Yes.

[00:26:21]26, you say there's incest in the camp.

[00:26:24]Yep. And then on the 28th, so 2 days after this meeting, you get a call from Greg Borchers and what does Greg say on that phone call? Ollie to Ollie calls and says on speaker phone, "Do not come back here. You're never coming back to the church. You're no longer security." I have a feeling that both Greg and Ty did not enjoy being called out and being told that they were doing things incorrectly.

[00:26:50]And I think saying that there was incest in the camp. And Gina never clarifies if her saying this is talking about Tai specifically or talking about a different situation because there's always that possibility that she could have been talking about someone else, but she doesn't specify. However, I can see how Tai would see this as a personal attack. And it's shortly after this that they get kicked out. That was the number one thing that kept standing out to me and that why would they why would they cut ties with us like that? Mhm.

[00:27:22]Unless they had to do some damage control.

[00:27:25]And so I think this really comes down to Greg and Tai feeling threatened by the Warrens because people were contacting the Warrens ministry for additional help.

[00:27:39]Meaning that they weren't maybe finding the deliverance ministry of Greg and Tai to be enough that they needed the additional counseling from the Warrens.

[00:27:50]And Gina called out things that she felt were inappropriate and instead of having a back and forth about that, instead of talking that out, they just cut them off completely.

[00:28:06]And so now we know the real reason, according to the Warrens, why they were kicked out of Greg Locke's church and labeled witches. So, much like we surmised earlier, what gets Greg to label someone a witch is just not liking you and disagreeing with you and wanting to discredit you. So, that is what we now know according to this interview. I highly recommend, if you have the time, to watch the full podcast from The Roys Report. While The Roys Report is still a Christian source, they do a lot of really great work just exposing abuse and abusers within Christian churches and movements. And so, I highly recommend that you check out the podcast in full or just any of the other work that The Roys Report has done.

[00:29:03]With that though, I'm going to say goodbye and I hope you have a wonderful day and an excellent week.

[00:29:08]>> [music] >> That was spooky.