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"ANYTHING CAN TREND NOWADAYS"| Things like food, clothes or even health can now be trends追加:
You know, that's one thing I realized when I actually started buying um like like I would say very very healthy food and I wouldn't say just very healthy, but like fresh farmtot sort of uh produce and things that nature.
>> One thing you never know, you don't know you're broke until you don't realize how fast certain things spoils, >> you know? Uh, like when you get a real mango, like real real mango, or you get real artisan bread or what have you, that thing is not gonna last more than three days, you know, like this the fake stuff, you're so we're so used to all these GMOs and things that nature that we get all these foods and the norm is them living longer than they actually should or ex existing longer than they actually should cuz food was supposed to be got gotten for a couple of days on at a time.
>> Exactly. or stored in a different way.
>> When you have burden I am used to if 3 4 days probably a week is the max sweet peppers normally last.
When I buy that Walmart sweet pepper, >> it's probably still there right now. I think it's probably >> Welcome to the Dale Elliot podcast. I am your host, Dale Elliot, and I am here with my friend, Mr. Oliver. How is everything? Everything's lovely. Very copesthetic.
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Last time we was here, we was talking about the Iran war that is still happening.
>> It wasn't a war when they wanted to say it then. was supposed to be just a a scrimmage or I don't even know what it was engagement >> and we see how that is affecting how people invest that is affecting gas you know how much is it to fill your tank now >> I see I'm probably uh privileged I don't even look at that I don't like to think of it I don't want to be ruled by it >> oh well gas rule me honestly >> I mean yeah I've been looking around I won't lie though I've seen figures like $7, $8 some places. And that's like when I'm like, "Oh, that's alarming." Cuz I don't know if that's normal.
>> But outside of that, it doesn't really matter.
>> Bro, when is and and people can have this conversation with me as well in the comments, but don't you feel like things just too expensive now?
>> I mean, absolutely. But then the cost of living and wages hasn't haven't really increased like that. in like 30 years, you know, it's um it's really expensive out here for a lot of people in in lie of that too. What's even getting more expensive is for um like vital things like farming industries and areas of u produce and like where we get our actual food and resources from is getting very difficult for farmers from what I've been seeing and from what I understand now. Yeah, I think like this was one of the first times I see the like understand the impact of like when oil prices go up because I think oil prices peaked at like $1 like $20 a barrel. I think now it's down but just just the normal dayto-day logistics of how important is and how it is pegged to everything.
>> That's crazy. Yeah, >> it's great. You know, actually funny story. Uh I told my little sister a while ago how like you can you can figure out whenever there's like a recession happening and things of that nature.
>> This recession that we are in, nobody wants to actually categorize that as um >> it's been going on for a while. You know, >> I feel like it's been happening now for like two to three years.
>> I I feel the same in ask why. I feel like it started almost like four and a half years ago. Uh but whenever or in general you know how McDonald's is like a huge owner of land in the US in all actuality for people who don't know like McDonald's is its first business is actually real estate because they they do so much uh franchising that all they really care about is owning the property that the the franchises live on top of.
But because of that, whenever McDonald's changes their menu, it's like a huge indicator. Like you'll see the cups get a little smaller or like the dollar menu moves the McChick off of that. That's like when when the McChick's not on a dollar menu is a depression. It's a recession depression. When people can't afford a McChick after seeing the documentaries, >> yeah, that's a problem >> cuz I see for me though is mostly it's I would say two years now. Um, I remember watching like a lot of the fearmongering thing on YouTube in like 2021 when it was like, "Hey, everybody that took that free money, you guys are all going to go to jail couple years from now and the government turned on the money printer and the money printer and it's going to catch up with us because now we're doing the quantitative easing and the quantitative tightening and and now literally Seeing one seeing a lot of the people that took the money going to jail.
>> Really?
>> I feel like a lot of them have gotten away with it.
>> Yeah. A lot. A lot. But you know, some people have gotten arrested. Um but not just that just that outside of the the the influx of money which was put in the society is we are now seeing a lot of things catching up. Like right now, credit card delinquency is at its highest in history.
>> Very true.
>> So like the average American right now has I think it says something like $7,000 in credit. The average average American um cars are not selling. Cars are just on car ms. I see I always see the videos on YouTube and they're like the car market is dead. I mean, you can notice it though, you know, like how many how many I mean, we live in Los Angeles, but like >> I don't think I see that many luxury cars like it used to be. Like it it's now it's it's rarely luxury to drive a car that's like Mercedes, BMW because of the cost of things.
>> Like luxury is even more of like a gap in regards to classes now.
>> Yeah. And and and also to I think outside of just cars, we are seeing a shift in how people enjoy themselves. And that is what I use. That is what I used to show as the biggest recession indicator is like um and I can't use our age because I think we're at the age now where I think with maturity we start to find other ways to enjoy ourselves but when we look at the younger generation you know club culture is dead. It's very true.
>> Like I going to the club used to be the thing. Like going to a It don't matter what club, just going to the club. A person that's 21, 22 right now, you're not catching them in the club.
>> They don't drink.
>> They don't even drink.
>> Yeah. They they don't drink. They barely have sex. like they they literally grew up saving cost being the house and uh I mean like it's it's actually well said that like we grew up in the day where it was great to be a kid but horrible to be an adult and like they grew up in an age where it's like horrible in general.
>> Yeah. They them they missing everything.
But when I look at the um so like we go out and we're going to you will find right now a bar a bar is packed >> and and a club is empty like >> like like try to tell somebody right now that it's $100 to get in. Forget about it. I'm not I'm not going in. But I might go in and and think about think about when was the last time you seen about a girl with some bottles. [ __ ] that's dead.
>> Yeah, that's very true. But I mean, you know, another thing that's uh I mean side on topic but not that like correlates with markets >> is the dating market as well.
>> Um and not even just not speaking for myself but just experience and observing. Do you ever notice how now you rarely see couples the same age? Is it just me? No. Seriously, >> like do you nowadays, right? Or I've noticed whenever there is a market shift or things of that nature, >> you start to see women dating a little older in their age range. Younger women are the ones that are outside in clubs and going out and things of that nature.
Whereas like the younger men, you know, generally don't have the money for things that nature. And it's always been a thing, you know, throughout society that, you know, women can't jump classes through their mate or who they date or who they entertain, >> whereas men don't have that luxury >> in as much, you know, especially depending on sexual orientation. I will say that.
Um, but >> I mean, hey, there there are sugar babies for men, too. You know what I mean?
>> Yeah. Hey, there is. Uh but I feel like uh the peak years of sugar baby and um uh age proprietary dating, we're seeing it now. And also because we're seeing it now and it's becoming so normalized, I think it's starting to bring some of the, as I call them, freaky frogs out the closet. Cuz you know, there's a whole there's a whole shift right now of people who consider themselves having an affiliation towards young people, and I'm saying actual illegally young, you know, trying to make it like a mental illness or make it something that, you know, that is more normalized. But granted, with this administration, with all that's been going on about what has been going on in the US with children, it's not surprising.
>> Look, as that relates, listen to me. I think you like children and you're an adult, you better just like them. But if you like them in a way that is illegal or petty that way, I think you should die. But hey, >> I don't disagree with that one.
>> We can we can move on from that. But definitely I definitely believe that.
But when I look at small small stuff that are like changing I think the trends that are in now there is a health trend.
>> Yeah.
>> There is uh natural trend you know women now know women taking out the BBLs now.
>> Yeah. The beauty standards are switching. They're switching. I I predicted this actually. It always goes every like five years you know. Now we're back to the old or we're we're getting back to the skinnier archetypes.
I actually met a girl recently.
>> Big body ever. There is never a time. So in in my country, big body always trending. We've never It's big body.
>> I mean Africans feel the same thing.
>> Thick.
>> Thick mudfish.
>> Thick slim. Oh, you know, respect to all the slimmers out there, you know.
>> Hey, I love I love y'all, you know. Uh >> I love you guys, too, you know, but just not in not not like, "Oh, I love to take them."
>> He said, "Not in a romantic way."
>> You know, you guys are not for me.
Everybody have a preference. You know, women like tall, dark, and handsome, you know.
>> That's true. you know, >> and I mean that's a whole another topic when it comes to what what's been switching off when it comes to the the male beauty standards, but you know, we're we're getting the age now where you know, health is even you bring that up, it's like all the things that you would consider just being normal, where it's like health, eating clean, um you know, experiencing art, things that nature, like it's classing out now. Like you literally have to be able to afford to work out, have to be able to afford to eat clean. You have to be able to afford to do these things, which you're right.
>> Yeah. We're getting to a point now where the flex is like how healthy can you be?
Like, you know, do you ice do you do ice plunges? You know, are you are you taking certain um like cosmetic supplements?
>> See, I fall into that trap as well. See, I I've always like worked out and things like that ever since. But >> I don't think that's a trap. I mean, it it should be free for everybody.
>> Exactly. But for once, let the good things trend, >> you know.
>> You know, the good the good things can trend is is only but when you say it's a for it's it's expensive to be healthy.
>> It is.
>> It's very expensive to be healthy. And I never realized that until I like so I was in Florida the other day and uh went to Walmart and I was inside Walmart.
This is my first time I this is my first time going into a Walmart >> ever >> in like six years.
>> Oh, true.
>> I haven't been in a Walmart since 2020.
>> I probably haven't either. I'm not even going to lie.
>> I went I was in Florida. I go to a Walmart and I was like, "Wait, this seems exponentially cheaper."
But, you know, I I I am not seeing some of the stuff, you know, cuz I think the environment, you know, in the Trader Joe's or the Bristol farms or >> Sprouts, >> sprouts, >> Macall Exactly. So when I start to like when I go in the Walmart, I'm like, "Oh, this look different."
Like even when even the produce >> Yeah.
>> the produce in the Walmart look different. Or even sometimes when I go supermarkets over here and I go into the supermarket and and they're like, "Um, this broccoli is organic. This broccoli is not." And the organic one look worse than the the the one that's like not organic.
>> Yeah.
>> Looks nice and flush and and the organic one just look terrible.
>> You know, that's one thing I realized when I actually started buying um like like I would say very very healthy food and I wouldn't say just very healthy but like fresh farm to table sort of uh produce and things of that nature. One thing you never know, you don't know you're broke until you don't realize how fast certain things spoils, you know? Uh like when you get a real mango, like real real mango or you get real artisan bread or what have you, that thing is not going to last more than three days, you know?
like the the fake stuff. You're so we're so used to all these GMOs and things of that nature that we get all these foods and the norm is them living longer than they actually should or ex existing longer than they actually should cuz food was supposed to be got gotten for a couple of days on at a time.
>> Exactly.
>> Or stored in a different way. When you have burd pepper and normally I am used to if 3 4 days probably a week is the max sweet peppers normally last.
When I buy that Walmart sweet pepper, >> it's probably still there right now. I think it's probably still there right now. But it look green and it prettier.
So it's it's so confusing to me the how chemically enhanced the food is and and the fact that now everything is being sold as oh this is the real mango. This is the the the real bananas like you know you know when I realized I was not having like good bananas I used to buy bananas and I used to just leave it out on the table and sometime that would be yellow for like couple days I'm like this is this is you know good don't and then I buy some banana banana >> two days.
>> Two days black.
>> Yeah.
>> So now basically I tell me the banana that got black in two days is the real deal and not the one that is like still going strong after 78 days still on the counter.
>> Yeah. Even even crazier. I went and got these uh I went to a farmers market just recently and got these eggs that literally the guy had his chickens there. I boiled I usually like boiled eggs. I boiled my eggs and I started noticing the the peel the inside the peel is a different color than what I'm used to. It was like bluish >> blue. No, I never see blue one but >> or it was maybe I be color blind. Yeah.
>> But it it it had a different color. It was like a light bluish greenish look.
>> It's like what? That's so interesting, you know? And I I thought something was wrong with it. And and the yolk was a different color, too. Not It was still yellow, but it was like a darker, richer color. I so I had some eggs last week. My girlfriend buy some eggs and when I when I look when I cut the egg I said yo why this this looks this looked yellow so much that it almost look orange.
>> Exactly.
>> I'm like yo why this egg look like this?
And she's like yeah this is the this is like the natural most rise farmer. I'm like, so the the dark the light yellow eggs that I've been having that I'm like egg is a egg is a different egg.
>> Yeah, it is. Or no, not even. It's more so what they're feeding them. And that's actually what I was alluding to in regards to like the farmers industry.
Like, you know, it's crazy. I always say or as we talked about before like the stock market is like a place that indicates what the world really values.
But then at the same time you it takes it to another level where it becomes securitized to the degree that like prime example you can look it up right now. They they air like the oxygen we breathe is on the stock market. That means it's a scarce resource you know.
Um, and that being said, I only bring that up to say that like farmers used to be able to actually have seeds that they pick and, you know, decide what seeds they want to use. Now, we live in a day and age where big corporations have patents on the seeds they can grow. So, if you were to throw a seed in the ground and you're a farmer and this company has a patent for this sunflower seed or what have you, they will sue you for everything you have. Like, literally, it's like a mafia now. like you have to be signed damn near there to a a seed agency. They give you all your seeds, you grow all their stuff. Even the feed that you give to your your animals is different >> to the degree now, you know, people are starting to be more um aware of that and um stuff is changing. But it all started from like what was called like the the big green revolution. It actually happened in like the '9s. Um the world was running out of food and nobody really talks about this. I obviously I grew up as a nerd if y'all can't notice.
Uh but I was reading about it when I was young, things of that nature and like the world was running out of out of uh uh rice. Well, rice was the first thing.
So they started genetically altering rice and then corn started being made on a high level genetically because like corn can be put into everything. That's why everything started being corn fruit soap syrup in the 20 in the 2000s. Mhm.
>> And because of that, people started realizing how like you can now have a patent over food. You can now like own the intellectual property of making certain foods. And once you get to a certain amount of money, you can even like a mafia like strongarm the small man and make it so they can't even do anything to compete with your prices or your preservatives or how long your food lasts or you know. So like nowadays the market of food itself is more so the problem than people not like having the knowledge to get better foods. That's why good food's expensive because it's so cheap to get bad food because the bad food is you know they can make it in a lab. Yeah. But here's the problem for me. I am I am so in Jamaica we have this we have this theory. We always talk like this. I will be like, listen to me, apple, apple, orange or orange. I don't care if it organic, tonic, masmanic.
A egg is a egg.
>> But y'all can get y'all stuff right out the town out of town.
>> Exactly. But I'm just saying that now.
So now that I live here, I kind of still have that mentality where I'm like, listen to me, a supermarket is a supermarket. Like if I am driving past a supermarket and I need stuff, I'm stopping at a super I don't I don't care which like one it is. But you know, men were wear creatures of habit.
I live below a Bristol farms and there's a trader just across the street from me.
So there's no I'm going to buy what's there.
So I think getting I don't know what this I'm not going to say it's like a health bug but our generation we are looking differently at stuff. So now I'm seeing like there's a lot more like farmers markets. There is um run clubs >> aka dating on legs.
>> Dating on like >> speed dating on legs.
>> People are finding so much other alternatives now >> like >> I haven't the fact that as a society I think we've gone so far that health has become a trend than a necessity like it's crazy to to to think like for me like oh I make my choices all right there what apartment are you going to live in Bro, I care about the gym at the building more than how inside my apartment is.
>> Different for me, man.
Like, like if I if I walk in, I'm like touring a building. I don't need to see the pool cuz I'm never going to be there. I just need to see what the gym is like. And I think it put me into a position where I don't know if it's like a standard or what, but I don't I'm scared to move out of apartments because I'm not giving up. I'm not until I >> Yeah. Until I until I can afford to like I would go I go as far far as if I get a say I live in a like a a townhouse or a house Mhm.
>> I am going to turn that garage into a gym. I am going to buy some kettle bells. I am turning that into a gym.
>> I mean, as you should. I don't care for amenities, though. I feel like it's a scam. All right. The gym, no, but concier and things of that nature.
>> I don't care about concier.
>> I don't care about none of that. But people really people really love that like aesthetic crap, man. And it's but granted I feel like we're in a we're in a day and age where class is more visible than ever.
>> But I wouldn't I wouldn't say class.
Like I was having this conversation with my friend the other day and he was talking about um just like why I always choose to live in apartment buildings instead of um why I don't just get I can get somewhere just as nice that is not like a building you know don't have any amenities and it's free and then I was breaking it down to him is like to me it it is dependent on like your profession.
So like for me if you if your your job majority of your job is like computer >> Yeah.
>> you don't really you don't have to leave your house.
>> No.
>> And your job is mostly stationary.
>> Yeah.
>> So for me what the lo what like a apartment building gives me is it prioritize a lot of stuff that I need. So number one security.
I feel like okay then there is no security. I feel secured. Two, no yard maintenance. I don't have to cut no grass. I don't have to I don't have to worry about none of that. I don't have to maintain anything. Three, I have multiple places to create content.
>> I make videos. I have multiple places to create content. And then there is a recreational. I can there's a gym.
There's a pool. There's a hot tub. there is conference rooms because like I can do my meetings in like one of the conference rooms that is there. So, I really pay for the access of the environment. And to me, if and if, and this is just for me, say if somebody's paying $2,000 for rent and their rent includes a one-bedroom apartment at uh like in a fairly older building that doesn't have any amenities at all.
If they're paying $2,000 and say I am paying 24, but my 24 includes a gym, a pool, a conference room, hot tub, common area, pool table, movie theater. If my includes all of that, the extra $400, which would work out to be 412 um 36.
>> Yes.
>> Wait, would you?
>> 4* 2 was 48.
>> So that's an extra $4,800 a year. That that's what that's my like expense.
I believe that by the time if you live somewhere that you don't feel comfortable all the time, when you want to find a recreational activity, you're going to leave your house. You're going to drive somewhere. You're going to go do something. That's going to be gas.
That's going to cost something. You're going to have to go join a gym. A gym membership right now is maybe like $80, $90. You have to do that. You're probably going want to go to the beach or you want if you have friends over, you can invite them over. can instead of having friends in your house. Hey, let's go chill in the common area. You know, we use the common area. So, if we're going to make content, I'm not making content just in my house alone. I can go make content down in the gym. I can make content in the common area. If I'm taking an office meeting and I want it to look super professional, you know, instead of taking it from the living room, I can go into the office and close the door and have a conference meeting there. So I think but it's dependent on the profession >> you know so it's it's more manageable for me which is why I choose to live in a building that is like like super I want to have everything so I don't have to go anywhere >> unless I want neighborhood >> I walk all over my neighborhood man >> that's the thing I still do that I lo I lose that here I lose that in Hollywood though True. Yeah. Over where I live, there's a lot of community art, a lot of like farmers markets, a lot of different things. You know, my area is is one of those places where people act like they're broke but have money. So, you know, all these dogs, like people love their dogs. It's really cool. A little suburban.
>> A lot of a lot of a lot of places are like that. And that's why me say we just can use what is now really trending. And is it trending because of you know like do you believe that a lot of people are just like switching to like eating healthy and stuff because [ __ ] expensive and it it just costs too much now to go to a restaurant. So let me spend that $100 and buy some food put in the house and cook.
I honestly I really So here's the thing though because food is expensive and things of that nature. A lot of people don't even have the choice. Now the individuals and I'm I think of the people who don't have a choice. They're not the ones I'm even thinking of when I'm thinking of like this is like a trend in regards to it being a trend. I think more so about like the people who have a choice and um have the luxury of deciding what they want to do and things of that nature. But also nowadays a lot of the people who do have influence don't also have money you know and there it's this facade or that comes with people believing that influence always equals money when it's like influence is it own sort of currency and people push what you know they have access to. So I I think in general those who have influence, you know, often are in a position where they want to look good, they want to physically look good.
Plus, in general, like you're saying, they don't want to go out or maybe they want to save money or money isn't consistent like that. And they're doing that for like, you know, health and for an image thing. But >> the reason I know there's a trend going on is just watching the upper level finance bros and like the tech bros and stuff. It's so normal now. like everybody works out from the old dudes to the senior level managers like it's a thing you know everyone wants to be in shape I mean look at uh uh not Zuckerberg but um uh >> but do you realize that the pe as you say before the I think the people that are working out are more I don't want to say >> affluent >> yeah I just feel like it's become a trend amongst a certain type of people.
>> Yes, it is.
>> You know, is is is not I don't think the average Joe is working out every day anymore.
>> No, they they can't afford to. They have to work.
>> That's another part, you know, they have to work. And that's the crazy. That's why I really am saying or I was saying before like it's a matter of like um class now. And we're get matter of fact it all even ties into like what's going on with the pharmaceutical companies and what's going on with technology because like every single every single like 20 years there's a new big boy who takes over things you know and the pharmaceutical companies had a grip over the US and the world for I would say from the from 2000 up until like 2018.
>> Yeah. and it's switching now to the tech side. And I say all that to say, the next phase of like human um enhancements, we've already kind of seen people now enhancing their body with for like augmentation, breast augmentation, BBLs and things of that nature, fake lips, men even getting fake abs and things of that nature.
>> Some men are even getting tala.
>> Exact. Which is insane cuz that's a that's such an invasive surgery. But um that being said, we're going to get to the day and age where it's like I mean we already are there where people can choose the color of their kids eyes, choose their hair.
>> I think social social media definitely >> social media >> we're going to get the robotics in the body.
>> I think I think I think so eventually it will one day and I think we're seeing it in real time and watching it accelerate because so much people have more access to it. like what you said before about like um social media. I think and I see something about this the other day and I realize that it's so true.
Fame, in order to be famous once, you needed to have a talent.
>> Not anymore.
>> You know, fame, fame used to be pegged with talent. And when I said that, when I heard the person say that, I sat and started to think to myself.
I'm like, yo, are you talented?
Like I'm like, all right, why why why do people know me? And then I'm like, okay, I used to do track and field when I was younger. Okay, that's when a lot of people knew me in high school. Then I started to make videos on Facebook. I started to make videos on fine, but there were lot there was it was comedy and so I had to be funny but I had to be really like trying other stuff and then seeing the industry change over and over again. I'm like um it will sometime have me wonder like yo am I even like like what level of talent do you do are you really as talented as you think you are? That's how it make me feel. It made me feel like, yo, it's it's relatively and I it's it's hard to say that it's relatively easy to trend or to to to to pop up on social media now so much that when I heard that statement that fame used to be handinhand with influence and like see like seeing it change now where You don't have to have a re you you had to be really talented to be famous one once upon a time.
>> But but that's even the word trend man trend doesn't belong to a person.
>> Like if if if you're talented that that's yours.
>> Whereas a trend it moves and if you if you hop that hop on that train early you now get the recognition of being on that train >> and then you have to flip and pivot into other things. But >> it's not something that lasts. Even Drake was saying that about how like, you know, some people are are just like are known but like they aren't actually talented.
>> Yeah, >> it's true.
>> Yeah. And everybody try to see how them differentiate themselves. Like I feel like I have been so doing it for I've been doing this now for like 12 13 years and I'm like I've seen so much like waves, you know, and then even with the I've seen like creators like go crazy while I'm just here and and then it's like for five and then I just don't know where they are or whether it is a song pop up and trend you know.
>> Yeah.
>> Um now look at look at look at music.
>> I think the quality of talent has depreciated immensely.
>> Yeah. I the business of music itself is like uh it it just is not the same. I mean m music used to be like in the fabric of like politics and actual art >> because they had more control.
>> This this is true too. But I mean if you if anyone follows music history and and follows real art history um there there was every single period of art, the Renaissance era and things of that nature. Um like music always came first.
you know, Beethoven style then bled into painting and then it bled into politics, you know, um and generally now we're not at that day and age um where you people are actually making music about the actual world like there's no Marvin Gays making music Mercy Mercy Me talking about literally like nuclear war and things of that nature. People make most of their music nowadays talking about themselves. So usually the music is a progression of them. If you ever really noticed that now like an artist will start and if they are going to talk about the world is like the world they lived in and then they progress and they start talking about themselves a bit more themselves a bit more and like in a positive way. Um, both you can look at both Kendrick and Drake in that perspective and Kendrick talks a little bit more about the world and Drake became so huge because like he was one of the first most vulnerable artists that talked that deeply about his own world view, his own world's perspective, which I'm not taking anything away from um Drake at all. I think he's a phenomenal artist. Um I think I don't think he gets the respect he deserves sometimes. Uh but that being said, um that lane is only good for it's only good for certain people. It depends on how much your life is growing and changing and who you're touching. Then you can keep that lens of talking about your world.
>> Where it's like other people don't have don't live his life. Other people don't live the sort of life or perspective where they've changed that much and they've touched so many people that it even matters to hear how their life is going, you know.
>> Uh but that's where music is now. is very interpersonal and it's it's followed even TV where the degree of things like we we're in a day and age where everybody wants to feel important, everybody wants to be tailored to, but because everybody wants to feel important, everyone wants to be tailored to, we start to lose like the collective, you know, and I hope I'm making sense, but like we went from a day and age where people would sit down and watch one show, the whole country will watch one show. like this was the show right now, you know, like the Sopranos or what have you.
>> And now we got shows for people who >> who [ __ ] like feet. We got shows for for we got the [ __ ] family. We got the Amish going Amish. We we got everything for everybody. And it kind of takes away from that like collective and the overall growth of art itself.
>> I think that's a I think it's a positive, but there is always going to be like some drawbacks with the access that we get. I think because of so much access we have to information and humans wanting to reach everybody um we are starting to see that we as humans everybody looks at stuff from an individualistic standpoint and you are starting to realize that if even if I look at myself from an individualistic standpoint there there is going to be hundreds of thousands or millions of people that see through the same scope as me. And when you do that, >> a lot of the men, >> the men that's like, you know, the song say, "Bash just like your friend."
>> Yeah.
>> See how much you see how much girls do that or or when Drake say, "Fuck that [ __ ] that you There's hundreds of millions of men saying the same thing."
So like so Drake is singing from from from what like his eyes but so much people are relating. You see little people.
>> Yeah.
>> So much little people. They're like hey we we are being seen now. So I think because of the social media make so much things so visible that humans always want inclusion.
So, which means the ceilings aren't as high for stuff anymore because nothing is really generalistic.
You know, nobody right now is making music for everybody.
>> Exactly.
>> Um, you know, a song start and the first thing a man is like, "Hey, this is for my hood." So now he's making a song for just this area.
So when everybody in this area hears it, it's done right there. It's dead.
>> It's a cycle though. Like and I'm not saying that I wasn't saying that like in a perspective that that's incorrect cuz it's great that >> Oh, no. But your point was right, which is what is affecting it's affecting music.
>> Yeah, it's true. it. My my thing is like extremes even for people who are religious and and things of that nature, God does not like extremes, you know, and we we every time we get so like even right now the world for a good amount of years the world was extremely liberal and on no political tip because of that whenever there's one extreme like it's we're we're in we're so individualistic about everything things start to loop back like people aren't noticing Governments are getting tighter on on restrictions. You know, governments are controlling people a little bit more.
Like we're going back into fascism. Like we're reversing back into like extremely religious sex. we're or sex not sex uh but like we're getting into a day and age where I think like the next couple of years in our like the next 20 30 years the world's going to get more conservative and conservative to a degree that it's going to have it's going to need another flip for it to return back. So granted, you know, history repeats itself. And that being said, even right now with all this individualism and like music being a little static and things of that nature, I think we're going to get to a position where there's going to be a new genre or a new sound or, you know, a new vibe, but primarily it's going to happen when it gets strict.
>> I don't even think it's going to be new.
I think we're going back. Like, perfect case in point, the Michael Jackson movie just came out, >> man.
>> And it's >> the world's obsessed with nostalgia, man.
>> But but it's doing well.
>> It is. and and it's doing well. We knew it was going to do well.
>> You just need his name >> and get and and and and think about it this way. I still believe that it's that it's not doing I still believe that even as social media is amplifying it, I felt like it would have been a bigger deal.
Yeah, I do believe >> or it's it's it's it's it is a big deal and it's going to make mil hundreds of millions of dollars. But I just feel like that's going on, the NBA is going on, Champions League is going on, the World Cup is coming. These things have always been happening, but because it's now, okay, Michael Jackson soup, NBA soup.
Now, this is how we get rid of information. Now, I just go like this new topic.
>> Yeah, people micro do information.
>> It's man, you know it, matter of fact, I mean, when they're on a whole separate topic, but I saw a lot of snippets of the movie. And one thing I really wish they had in there was Michael Jackson and Diana Ross' relationship.
>> I'mma watch it. So, I I haven't watched it as yet. Um, I knew there was a the critics didn't um give it a high review, but >> look good to me.
>> No, I No, I don't. What they I feel like people want specific stories and information and I think the movie just was not in that thing. But I I haven't watched it as yet and I'm gonna I'm gonna watch it. But just think about in this the movie haven't been out a week.
Why does it feel like it's been out a long time?
>> It's true.
>> I I have friends in like other countries and it's such a bigger deal for like foreign countries than it is here. Like people are dressing up like Michael Jackson all over Brazil. And >> I mean it's happening here too, >> but not like the same scale, bro. Like everyone I saw on their Instagram, they all went to go see the movie or dressed up and whatnot. Whereas I'm just like I'll wait till it gets on >> on on Netflix or something.
>> That that is why the this this information age I think information age is accelerating us like we're being so overloaded with information now that time feels like it's supercharged.
>> Yeah, it it really does. It really it doesn't feel it feels like it feels like you don't have time for anything because it's like there's so much that can be done in it's so odd because so much it's it's it's like oxymoron. You feel like there's so much that can be done in time but then you don't have time for anything because it's like you got so much you're doing you know >> and and and I have I have this theory and I and it's show you how crazy it is and and you can check it too. Anybody who does not use the phone all the time or watch TV all the time, they're not they act way older.
>> Oh, for sure.
>> And when you see like you can see a 50 year old right now, if they if they're in their phone every day, they probably look younger. They're probably acting younger, working out, >> using slang terms, >> using slangs, and an older. Like my dad is 52.
My dad acts old as hell. I have 52 year old friends.
>> Yeah, you already know. I was going to say the same. I have 52 year old friends >> and and they don't they don't they don't look sick. They don't have no health issues. They trying to talk to the same >> same chicks.
>> Same chicks.
That's what I was saying.
>> So, so it's it's like information is good because you know people are benefiting from it. Like you know uh have you seen women in their 40s now?
>> Yes. They look great.
I'm not going to lie to you. They look great.
>> All right. go watch the ones that's not using the phones, not not going to the gym because I feel like technology there is always negatives and positives but I just feel like the access that we have to information it it accelerates um the information flies but I think you as a person is like it keeps you young.
I mean is the thing but I the thing is like young people are the ones that are driving that and you know everybody nowadays wants to be you know ahead or with the times and I met I even met a Louis V saying I met a 52 year old man um over the weekend and he was doing this stuff all this he straight dude but like he was saying the tea using all the the girl slangs and whatever it is >> crazy I cannot do that.
>> You could you could tell he was doing it like, you know, to act young in a in a way or like satire. I don't even know.
But I don't think he was I don't think he was being serious.
>> And my thing is is I was just like, >> why is why are you at your grown age doing that? And I'm sitting here drinking my mosscato and looking at him like this man's insane. And now I think to myself, maybe you are right cuz I feel like I'm I feel older than I am, >> you know? And cuz I'll go to dinner and I my phone will be down and I'll be talking or try to have conversations. I look around trying to >> engage.
>> I'm Listen to me. I'm I'm 30. I haven't been 30 for a month as yet. and and people would cons like um people would say, "Yo, I dress old uh um and I'm like I use social media every day, you know, but I feel like I think younger people are acting older and older people are acting younger."
>> Yeah, >> I think that is what's happening right now. Plus also maturity is maturity is really uh I mean it it's not but it is in a way in a in a certain way in my opinion a level of maturity is a is accompanied with access and like >> if a young person succeeds and makes it to a certain level they're surrounded by older people. So therefore they mature in a certain way that's different.
Whereas like older people that are successful want to be around young people. So it's like an inverse sort of like reaction.
>> Yeah. A lot of a lot of successful older people try to be they want to be around young people.
>> Yeah. Because every everybody else is either in a family or has kids or it's like dejected by life. You know, people really it's a sad thing. Some people age takes away their autonomy cuz they in my opinion you don't make the right decisions. You don't go after what you want young, then you get trapped in life.
>> And then you you you start lying to yourself about fun things not being fun.
Man, why would I go on that boat, man? I could just, you know, you know, you want to be on that boat. Why would I take my shirt off and hop you? Cuz you don't want to take your shirt off. You know, it's like you you age yourself out of that. Whereas like the people who are successful and like older and things of that nature, you know, >> they have the time now to lay back and to do that.
>> Yeah. the time, the money, and on top of that too, like I said, the the the the sexual marketplace, as I usually call it, is is literally the best or some one of the best times in human history to be an older man and have resources. Even an older woman and have resources because I'm pretty sure Oprah is having her time.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oprah, I'm pretty sure you doing your thing.
>> What? I'm pretty sure Whippy Gober is having a time in life.
>> All of this is because of the internet.
All of this is because of access.
>> Yeah.
>> And and is literally like where you are.
But I think when you also when you experience something early like for instance you can tell like you can tell a man that's 40 45 that like just get some money.
>> Yeah. Or never got girls.
>> Yeah. You Yeah. Like you can tell like Yeah. This man was never attracted like women were never attracted to this man. Just the level of thirst like like somebody would say like hey yo >> like if you're 45 and calling me to come to the club with you >> I'm wondering like yo and if if I am the one that's like yo bro I I no time for that right now. Is that like >> that's that's a reverse >> that that's what is happening. You know, you see people like, yo, we we're going here and here. You see the guys that the guy that has never done it before, >> he want to keep going and going and going and going.
>> Yeah. The guy that's never like been in the situation where he's like, you know, which is why it's always good to to be around older people and understand that.
All right, then know the dos, know the don'ts. I think a lot of I would always tell a lot of younger men find older men to befriend because >> absolutely >> you are going to save a lot of money >> and and you are going to you're going to move a lot different.
>> Absolutely. I mean most of my friends have been older than me and I think that also plays a large fact too. And also it's like older older men give you a certain sort of perspective or at least the mature ones they'll give you a certain sort of perspective of what's actually really cool you know like what's really like a flex you know like they're like in a sense they're like oh you think that's a flex I'm at I'm I'm at the with a peach >> exactly >> like you know I got a suite upstairs you know I'll just order I'll just order food and have all the ladies come and and party there. You know what I'm saying? Like it's a different vibe when you actually have sauce.
>> It's a older guy. I was out with a older man once and we he literally hit me up and he's like, "Yo, we're going to dinner."
It's like four of them. He's like, "Yo, we going to dinner." And I'm like 20 in my in my mind. I'm like, "Is this man gay?
Five men going out to eat alone? That's That's gay.
>> Yeah. I I wouldn't Yeah. I wouldn't put it past that.
>> And And hey, I don't care what you do. I'm just saying.
>> Nobody said pause here.
>> So I went >> and do your thing. And it was just four men all in their like early 40s and just talking about friendship business and and then the bill probably came up to maybe like $500.
>> Everybody finding out who paying the bill. the bill come up to like $500 and then I just remember that night after the dinner they left and go their ways and I was like, "Yo, let me find somewhere to go." And I went out and with my friends now that are my age, >> we have way less money than these men.
And we went into the club and they're like, "Oh, 3,000 for this section." And I'm looking at the girls that is there, the environment, and now it's like seven of us trying to all put together to afford this section. And we all was standing there looking at we in the club and like and all I'm thinking is, yo, we spent three grand on this dumb [ __ ] >> Yeah, man.
>> Like no food. Like I am spending $3,000 to poison myself >> literally >> to to just and no woman have substance.
I mean it's good to have it's good to visit one and two time you know you know club to me it's good to you know I I will always find myself in a club if it's even every once in a while >> once in a while >> but you're not going to catch me paying money. I mean, >> I don't care. I don't care. I don't care about paying to get in or what have you or whatever it is. I'm fine with that.
But a section to this day, I've never paid for a section, even though I can afford to. I've never bought a bottle at the club, even though I can afford to.
>> Oh, no.
>> It's just I don't even drink that much to even do that.
>> Oh, no. you know, >> I I I've I've wasted a lot of money um in like clubs and things. It's just that understanding that you might go to a club and I've seen men spend like three like, you know, a fun night in a club can easily cost you $1,000.
>> What? I thought you was going to say like 50.
>> No, 50. Imag even if it's 1,500, bro.
You know that for 1,500 >> to to be in a club >> trying to hit on women that might not talk to you, that just want free drinks.
You can find a girl and take her to like Colombia for like four days with that $1,500.
>> It's true.
>> Like true.
>> Like there is there is so much more.
There is so much more utility to with money. You know the value of money.
>> There really is >> money money the value of money is so depreciate like it's so >> undervalued in night life when you remove yourself from the night life is when do you gamble?
>> No.
>> Like being in a casino.
Being in a casino I swear I don't care who you are how much money money you have. If you're a guy that has $1,000, $1,000 in the casino does not feel like $1,000.
You will view that $1,000 as if it's a $100.
>> True.
>> The moment you walk out is when reality stretch, like reality. Like even if you have a $100 and you're like, "Oh, $20 bet, $10 bet," you're going to do it so effortlessly that you're just not respecting the money. Like you don't feel like inside a casino, money doesn't feel like money.
That's why they That's why when you're playing poker, they give you chips.
>> That's true. A casino will never have you you will never be in a casino. And this has been happening since Vegas was open. This this is the one of the first places they do that.
The aim of the casino is to never let you realize the actual value of what you're doing.
So it's like >> that's why the drinks are free. That's why >> exactly you give them $5,000 and they give you $5,000 in chips.
You're holding a chip in your hand. And you're like, "Ah, this is just a chip.
The [ __ ] is five grand."
You know? So they they make it they will never put the actual cash your car. You are going to you're going to walk out.
That's why there's no clock. So even when you go in when you go into the the club and then the club turn the things into real estate, bro.
>> It really does.
>> That's actually hilarious. This is a hilarious take. Turn into real estate.
>> The club turns into real estate.
>> How close are you to the DJ? How close are you to the bathroom?
>> How close are you to the DJ? How close are you to the bathroom? Are you in the center?
>> Yeah, >> the center is more the center section is more >> elevated. Like the space off the ground higher where you're standing.
>> Exactly. And let me tell you when you will feel extremely stupid. Visit that same club >> in the daytime.
>> In the daytime. Just just just walk in there. when it's just daytime, you you see the lights on, you're like, "What is this? Is this >> ugly auditorium?
It looks like ugly auditorium in the daytime."
>> Like this, bro. I was in Miami March and um my friend was like, "Yo, we going to live. Um if you want, you can you can pull up to live with me."
The table tables in live started at $50,000.
>> That's what I'm saying. Like you easily spend 50.
>> No, but but look how crazy it is. Tables start at $50,000.
But there will be a man in that club that will get that table for free.
>> True. because it's not worth anything to the owner. The owner can be like, "Okay, these tables, we're selling them for 50. Um, but my friend is here and I need the look. Put him right there."
Bro, you know how cheap those signs are with the little thing with the name on it and with a little They do this.
>> Yeah.
>> Just imagine $500.
I buy a bottle for 60.
put something that I pay $5 for little fris thing. That little plastic sign I buy it one time probably for like 150.
>> Mhm.
>> Put the words in it. You know them boys.
>> She's with them.
It's her birthday.
>> It's her birthday. And then just do this.
>> You know, you know what's killed me? I I literally because I I don't drink that much. And I started drinking later on in my age, like I think I really started drinking like 24, 25ish for real. And like actually like drinking and be lit.
>> And by that time I had already worked in a strip club. Uh really wasn't a strip club. It was a um like a after hours spot, but they had like all these bottle girls and like they like Hooters in a sense, you know?
>> Uh that's not a strip club, but it's Atlanta. damn near a strip club. Um, and I worked at these restaurants and I worked in a club during college and I would see how much like the bottles and stuff were in there and my myself I didn't have a concept of how much like Don Julio actually cost. Swear to you, like I actually started realizing the real prices of these bottles like two, three, three years ago. I'm like, "Wow, people really go there and spend $1,000." And I'm thinking, maybe the bottle actually costs like $200, $300.
No, this is a $30, $40, $50 bottle that people are spending $8,000 on. You are an idiot.
>> I wouldn't I wouldn't say you're an idiot. It's just It's just is the same concept like a water a water bottle.
Like if you try to buy a hot dog in the supermarket is cheaper than buying a hot dog at the Rams game.
>> That's true. That's true. But that's a little different though, you know? I don't know. Like I I will throw down if a hot dog could be a dollar, they'll cost you 20 bucks at a freaking baseball game, basketball game, whatever it is.
But I'll pay that. You know what I'm saying? I get to eat that food. It feels good. And the scenario or movies is a perfect example. Popcorn, all that is a part of the experience. But like the alcohol at like a bottle at the club, I don't I don't see how it's that much of an experience to upcharge it 500%.
>> I think that's why people don't go clubs anymore.
>> Yeah, they understand.
>> I I think people just people still enjoy themselves. People would just rather go places where they can just get a cup drink.
>> This is true, man. This is true. which is why I love going to um Seco and Tando out here. You just get a nice little glass of wine, people standing around, you talk. That's the vibe I'm in now, you know?
>> But I feel like that is that that is the vibe I think most people are in.
>> And and remember we say we might think it's a everybody thing.
>> Yeah.
>> But I think social media and the internet made a lot of clicks. So when I say clicks, which is why I know social media people are making a lot of [ __ ] money because if I can say to you like, yo, I've only been seeing um chicken on my chicken on my phone screen all day and you will be like, yeah, me too. You know what that means? All that means is that we have the same things in common.
>> Yeah.
>> So you know what I am going to do? I am going to run these ads to all these people that have these things in common.
So when we go to clubs, we're in clubs right now that we all look we all dress the same.
>> It literally is a club.
>> Yeah. Like we're going to when we go to where your secret place, you might find people there. When you go to like Soho House, you find people there just like you.
>> It's very true. When you go, >> when you go to the supermarket, >> the supermarket, you find people there just like you. When you listen to music, you find people there just like you because I think information, social media, and with the ads running and how them target people just made a lot of sense like what you see. So, it's like a bunch of people.
>> But, you know, that's funny. That's actually one of the main reasons why I say uh LA is like a giant high school because there's or even LA, New York, and like cities that are really big and have like c a lot of different cultures going on in there.
>> Like prime example, I moved to Los Angeles and like >> I started realizing every year as I actually started realizing my people and like my places and spots, it changed my entire experience of the whole city. And like there are people in Los Angeles that are living like your dream life, you know, and it's normal for them. You know, they're around everybody that's beautiful, has wealth, things. Not that that's everyone's dream life, but just as an exaggeration, but you know, >> there's so many levels to it in this city that you can really keep evolving and live a whole different life.
>> That's what the that's that's the good and the bad thing about California.
Because the thing is in California, you can be going to the same place that say James Odden or Yeah. LeBron James, you're like, "Oh yeah, I see LeBron every Friday literally >> like so in your like >> you are you are in his ecosystem, but you're not off it. You you you're not like like say we go to Harriet every Sunday."
>> Yeah. There are like really rich people in Harriet and then there are like some extremely broke people as well.
>> This is true.
>> Extremely more extremely than but but there is a fallacy. You see it in New York. you see it in Miami is like you're around so much people that remember if I can live in I can live in Watts and I'm at I'm in Harriets every Sunday and I'm taking like the nicest pictures and everything is fine or I've seen like I can I use like a Florida example for people like in Florida I've seen people where when they take pictures even in When people take pictures, their locations, it's never where they live.
When you see a girl, you look at a girl's picture when she's in a girl that lives in Florida, majority of her pictures, the location is in Miami.
>> That's crazy.
>> We in Miami, turn Miami. There's >> That's crazy. They're not you. You find a you find you're on a page for somebody in New York, their location is going to be like New York, New York, which is Manhattan.
>> Oh, we're in Manhattan.
>> Live there.
>> You're not. No, you live in Flatbush.
>> That's crazy.
>> Here, same thing. Always going to say, uh, Santa Monica or, um, Beverly Hills.
No, you live in Chadzsworth.
Yeah. No, no. Not like Chat is a bad thing, but No, >> you're a mid city. You know, >> mid city is not even >> It's not bad, but I'm like people, you know, perpetrate they live in the city.
>> Exactly. Like you see somebody come over here, the first place they're going to go is, >> oh, Rodeo Drive and the location is going to be I'm in Rodeo and then you go back to Notridge tonight.
So it's it's just the the fact that we we're an arms length away from the wealth.
>> You don't think >> it's it's good for the people that are ambitious.
>> Yeah.
>> It's good for the people that actually like have that wanting to transcend where they're from. But then some people just want to be seen.
>> Yeah. But the problem here's the problem that I think it cost. And I only think I only realized it's a problem when I actually started to achieve the things that I wanted to achieve. And for me, I started to my career and everything accelerated the more I took a step back from living like nightife LA because I started to realize that the people that are really doing stuff, >> they're not outside.
>> They're not outside. Like when I realized that yo oh that is why you only seem like oh like we can be here we can think about it we can never say we see a celebrity every Friday the same one >> that's true >> they don't I mean it's LA so people move around you know people move around the people. So, we will be in a situation where you're in an environment with a lot of people that are not productive because they're like, "Oh, oh, you mean?
Oh, I'm in I'm in film. I'm a director.
What are you directing?
What what what did you do? I'm a photographer. How are you a photographer?" And I can You're available every weekend.
You know, like I'm a musician. When are you in the studio? because it's 1:00 and I know musicians musicians are making music at 1 2:00 in the night. I you cannot I cannot see you Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
Like you're an influencer. What are you influencing?
>> Oh, they be outside though.
Yeah, but outside doing like so it it's more I start to realize that hard work in in in in the field that I am in which is like social media, content creation, comedy, stuff like that.
Money doesn't come to you.
You have to like go for it. So like when you go on YouTube and you see all these people with the podcast, you see you see Speed, you see um Kaisen, you see all of the people, Duski, these men are not just partying every week.
>> No, they're always doing what they're doing.
>> They're always doing something, you know. Um musicians when they're working, they're working.
You don't see them. you know, Drake is doing an album, you're not seeing them.
So, I I started to see that for myself and be like, yo, deal. If you are trying to build a certain brand for yourself, you cannot just be out all the time cuz that's basically showing the world that I'm not doing anything.
I see it all the time.
>> No, you're right. You're right. as as the as I like to think of myself as like a side quest king. I don't know you you follow each other on Instagram. I'm always doing something random every day.
>> But >> yeah, but your field of work that's why I always say I want when I look at people and look at their profession, I can tell a tech guy is going to be free all night cuz he works in the day.
>> Yeah. Work all morning. It works in the morning like like I I know when a man is lying to me. Oh, you a trade. If I call your phone 6:00 in the morning and you tell me you trade >> and you you pick up >> you tell me you just wake up.
>> That's crazy.
>> You're lying.
You're lying. Now, now I know that yo, you you just you just hear some words and now you're just saying it.
>> Tech bros, finance bros, traders, we all We live in the morning and the night time is like finally I can do something.
>> Night time >> or like afternoon >> you go out but >> go get something get some wine >> things get slower more down but when you meet somebody and they're like yeah so I am in the world I I do content or I'm a photographer you go on their page there's no photography being done you know um I am a model to me saying some If you tell me that you're a model, even if Okay. Yes. If If I look on your Instagram and I'm seeing just pictures of you, that don't necessarily I I don't I'm not going to say you're a model.
>> What's the what what brand?
What brand did you model for?
>> Who's your mother agent? You know, where like what what where are you based out of? You know, are you print?
>> Are you runway? You know >> even that [ __ ] is dumb too when people who say like not I wouldn't say dumb but what I realize here in the city a lot of people come here it's like in music business a artist gets to a label label pays them some money and then you supposed to like do you're supposed to work after you get that money >> a lot of people in LA >> they get in flex They come here and they're like, "Um, oh, I'm an actor." And then they're like, "Oh, so, um, who's your agent?"
I'm like, "I've done a movie that's been on Netflix that went on that that peaked at what, number two in 2020. I've never had an agent."
She like, "What do you mean? Oh, who's who's your um who's your manager?" I've never had a manager. I've sold over 40,000 tickets.
Oh, you Oh. Oh, where do you perform?
What's your standup? blah blah blah.
I've sold over 40,000 tickets. I never have a agent yet, but it's easy for me to get one >> if you want to give them that money.
>> And I've tried to work with like people and agents and stuff like that. And I realized there's a there's a direct correlation between people that work and people that say they work.
And and once you start to socialize, you find a lot of the people that say they work, you know, and it just depend on the field. Like I like to go to um Soho House.
Um but when you go to So House, if the person is not doing depends on the time, it can't just be a waste of time.
You can't go there and just meet empty barrels. You can go there and find great people though. But there there is also a subset of individuals that like people it's also it's not only because of the it's not only be I mean is those people's own faults but there's a lot of people in in these sort of cities that actually can afford to not do anything and people try to be like them and that's like the crazy part like this person is has daddy's money or this person has a business and doesn't really have to do anything >> that is that is how you fall into the trap of LA when I just come here I had a friend not had a friend I'm sorry we're friends but I have I have friends out here that own tech company I sold it for like 400 million this man travels the world right if I call this man is probably in Brazil this man is almost never here I have another friend that owns Purel the hand sanitiz company and and We used to hang out at him at at him penthouse every day. Me with my broke self just and like yeah I'm I'm I'm hanging out with these rich people and I've never seen this man work or anything and he used to and then just remember he's the head think about the head of the snake is the one that can afford to do nothing.
>> Yeah.
>> And and you are just living in the moment. You're like, "Yo, I'm just I'm hanging out with my guy." You know, until you realize that when you start get older and people start to go to certain ways, you're like, >> you stay where you're at.
>> Damn, I was just a groupy like I want. So, so a lot of people here are just around.
>> That's true. and and and brother if it's one thing I will never want to be I I never want to be the person I never want to be and them when I say and them is like >> yeah so and so and best friend >> like if exactly if if if five of us is going out everybody should have their own like personality if we're like friends >> I just never want to be trapped in that.
Oh, oh, is such and such friend, you know, like I always want to have my I'm going to be known for something.
You're not going to just call me, oh, he's always around these people.
>> True.
>> That's very true.
>> Because LA is LA is the only place in America where your first four sentences a person wants to know what you do.
It's very true. Oddly enough, I'm one of the few I'm one of the few people that have always wanted to be wealthy and quiet. Like, you don't know me. Just know I can do what I want to do.
>> Um, and granted, that's actually one of the main reasons why I I got into like tech and software because I know people silently. I have a good friend of mine who is a millionaire and like you don't know nothing about him. You can't even tell what he does. He just does whatever the heck he does whenever he wants to do it. And I've met I've met many people who make 700,000 $800,000 a year and like literally fly right under the radar. And they be they be the ones that get the most most money, you know, successful money, you know, uh legit money with without having to do much.
And I always been I was always impressed by that. But then I come to a city that's kind of like the opposite of that characteristic of myself. And you come to find when you are an individual who like prime example some people may not know you do comedy may not know your success and things that nature >> but you go to we'll go to a spot and we'll be hanging out whatever it is and you'll have people over there being the you know trying to be the quoteunquote alpha males the cool guy and things that nature then we both go outside we go to valet we get our cars and we leave and they're not there you know you know >> exa exactly but because LA or just overall of all anywhere you go I don't think you need to lead with what you do I don't think none of that matter >> I think >> people can feel the presence though if you're legit >> yeah but I think one of the most uncomfortable questions somebody can ask me is what I do I literally will just look at somebody and say I sell drugs I've done it I've done it so many times like every time I'm in LA and a girl ask me What I do? I say I sell drugs.
>> This is actually true.
I've I've been there for it.
>> Yeah. Anytime somebody like, "Hey, what do you do?" Say, "Yeah, I sell drugs."
Cuz brother, we can't even because now say for instance, if you say you like trade or you do software engineering and I I can't ask you um hey, let me see your portfolio or this. I can't do that.
No. But my profession is a resume profession.
So like, oh, let me let me get your Instagram to see if you the the thing that you do. And then now they're going to use whatever number they see on the Instagram to validate what you just said. Now, is this a >> like a girl? A girl can say, "I'm a model." And if I open her IG and if all I'm seeing is ass or the depending on like the aesthetic of her Instagram, I'm going to be like, "Okay, she wants to be a model, but this is not what she thinks she is." So, it's it's it's like a resume has become more than just what's on the paper.
>> Yeah. Social media is people resumes now.
>> That's your resume.
>> Especially here in uh Los Angeles, people open People follow you and look through your followers right in front of you. Matter of fact, it's happened to me six times last weekend. Six times. And good people, too. It's It's like It's It's just like >> be like, "Oh, mutual."
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, you know, oh, we won't follow. And >> oh, you're friends with Oh. Oh, so you're somebody like, "Oh, wow. That's crazy. I wasn't somebody when we were just having a conversation.
Was somebody when we were just, you know, casually talking." ever saying that to say it's really information caused that you know because profession like we've had a couple new professions >> and like and then we've had subprofessions so like now you can have a wealthy reporter that's never been on Fox CNN he's his reporting is his new YouTube YouTube Yeah.
>> Like um this episode is probably like two hours and a movie is not even two hours.
>> It's true.
>> You know, and people don't complain and say the podcast is too long.
>> It's very true.
>> It's just how it's just how things are changed and how information changes changes everything. changes how you think, how you move. It changes how we dress. Remember when like when was the last time you've seen like a a Jordan ones?
>> I can't remember the last time I seen Jordans.
>> See, Adidas is now in style, the Sambuz.
Um ASX.
>> But you know me, man. I'm always wearing boots.
>> And you're always wearing boots.
>> One of the only days I'm not wearing boots.
>> And think about it this way. Even boots are now trending, but it's trending to us because that's the ecosystem that we exist in now. Cuz I'm telling you, the guy that's there is a there is a club life that we're just not we're just not a part of that group.
>> Yeah, I know. Ex.
>> We're just not in that like life. There is somebody getting lit spending uh 10 grand here and there, but I know a lot of things are getting is is different. I don't think drug dealers are not as rich as they were back back.
>> No, they are not. They're not, >> you know, >> not on the lower level. The higher level maybe is different.
>> Yeah. Yeah. But lower level drug dealers now that's a that's a dead industry right now. Um >> seriously >> even rappers rappers are not as rich as as as they were. I think things are changing like like you see my like academics academics you know he's like yo broke I'm like that's crazy you know Joe Budden was a rapper he's made way more money from podcasting than he did from rapping.
>> Yeah he has.
>> He's different now. You know, people want a different medium, but also mediums replace each other. Like podcasting and things of that nature and social media is really replacing real or I wouldn't say real, but traditional u media platforms.
>> It's replacing how we consume information.
>> Even the president tweets and that's like his way of mass media.
>> Have you ever checked? He has a thing called true social. Truth Social.
>> Oh yeah, I know. I know. You know, it's it's like a app that he is a part of.
Like he like owns it.
>> Yeah, I know. And oddly enough, uh most of the people who have that are racist.
>> True social. Like I've never had it before, but every time I'm watching TV, it's like, oh, the president um sent a a message on truth social, but he also tweets.
>> Yeah. And I mean, Truth Social probably has less restrictions. And also, I'm not saying that to imply people who support Trump are racist. It just so happens to be that a lot of racist people misinterpret uh his I mean self-interest for theirs, which granted I I really believe the US is not about race, it's about class. It's only the stupid people that really think it's about race.
>> Yeah. Honestly, with with with what with what I see, I haven't lived here long enough long enough to like I've only known Trump or Biden >> like crazy.
>> Yeah.
>> Remember I moved to America in George Bush was hilarious.
>> Yeah. I moved to America late 2019 and the first time I came here, Trump had just won.
I came here >> Oh, you didn't even understand why people were probably tripping.
>> Yeah, because I was not in that ecosystem of, you know, I remember being in Jamaica and somebody is like, um, Donald Trump is running for the president. I'm like, oh, the guy from wrestling. That's what I'm like, oh, wrestling.
>> He used to make the money rain and here comes the money. Yeah, >> that's that's where I remember Trump and Home Alone when >> that's true >> and and up like Donald Trump >> the song but just that I my adult life I would say has been four years of Biden and Trump >> complete like opposites.
>> Yes. So I don't I think here the country is going to always be politically like like split.
>> Yeah.
>> And and we're seeing where uh social media plays a very very very big part in it. Like now the assassination attempt the other day.
It's like the moment the shot fire >> within like five minutes.
>> Yeah. The whole world knew.
>> Mhm. Whole world knew. Some people was like, "Oh, this the third time it happened." Another person is like, "I think this is stage. This is fake." Or um like there were so many opinions from the first 10 minutes and then you go on YouTube and then there is everything.
Everybody on YouTube is like, "Ah, did this happen?" Or, "Why did um Trump sit there like it looked fake?" Or, "Why did they get JD Vans? Why did the Secret Service take so long to cover Trump and they grabbed JD Vance out of there so quick? And and there's a video of like a girl like when she hear the shots and everybody should be evacuated, she's like taking up the alcohol. She's like grabbing the liquor.
So there is there is so much things, >> bro. I'm serious, dog. It's It's hilarious though. I mean, it's hilarious, but it's not hilarious. But I don't know. Trump, man. Three assassination attempts. He survived now you know >> he's putting those are some those some world class numbers >> but the thing is we get to the problem is once I just remember when we used to hear about these things >> and it's so normalized now you know >> like I believe that sometime things just move too fast and assassination of the president I don't think should just like blow over now like oh that's old news.
>> Yeah.
>> It's been less than a week.
>> Yeah. I mean, even um uh when when Old Boy was shot, um >> Charlie Kirk >> Charlie Kirk >> quick.
>> It was it was over quick. Like people really got over it quick and we all actually saw the like the actual gruesome nature of his like assassination >> and it just like whoops. All right.
>> Which is actually really it's it's so crazy.
>> Do you use X?
>> Yeah.
>> I think >> I try not to use it as much though. I I use X a lot and I call it Twitter.
And for some reason my algorithm right now is messed up at X because I keep seeing just shootings and murders.
>> Yes, same shootings, murders, fights.
>> Yeah, just >> and I truly believe they they purposely push a lot of pornography on that joint.
>> Well, I don't see it now. I used to see a lot of pornography one time, but I don't see it now. Yeah, I I think that's like a a way they kept the app alive, but that's my conspiracy >> with with X.
>> Yeah. Um right after um like it was taken over um by Elon Musk, I just started noticing like it's it just it was just everywhere on there, >> remember? Um, so what what I think what what differentiates X from X is like the wild wild west of social media.
>> Yeah.
>> Where >> what you say might not be held against you. Facebook have guidelines >> but you Facebook will show a entire murder >> or like >> not my Facebook >> if you wait. So I'm I'm I'm African. I mean but you're Jamaican too. But so you should have like you should bas basically I feel like >> I see that on X >> a lot of foreign country or foreigners post things and Facebook won't block it.
Like if there's a bombing in Israel you will see everything on Facebook. Um and maybe it's changed a little bit but that's how that's how it has been.
>> I think probably because of my Facebook is the page. I have a Facebook page.
>> Oh yeah.
>> And I think you know Facebook is monetized. So, I feel like more than likely something like that, if I post something like that, I would get like demonetized or >> banned. So, I feel like maybe that's what it would like pop up on my timeline because anything you say on Facebook for me is like, oh, they'll take the video down. And so, I'm like, >> yeah, it's probably because it's monetized. But, man, anytime something happens, Facebook will be the first person to show you exactly what happened. Car crashes, everything. I'm like, this is this is a good thing. But also as older people, they're usually on Facebook.
>> And the older older I feel like the older you get, the more desensitized you are. Not to even think about that and know where we're at in life right now.
It's scary times cuz I'm like I've seen some crazy stuff in my life. And now I see that stuff frequently. Like I thought it was crazy being a young kid and seeing someone get shot. Now I see it all the time.
>> Exactly. when I'm when I'm on when I'm on X and I'm like seeing all those like shooting videos and seeing like how people react when they get shot, guys head gets blown off, two guys arguing. So, it's like growing up as a child, I've seen it.
>> Yeah.
>> But the it's people shouldn't make it seem as if it's that normal.
>> No, not at all.
>> It's not.
>> But in a you know, not to be, you know, one of those conspiracy theorists, but I feel like this we're in a day and age where all the conspiracy theorists have been getting proven right more and more. And one thing that I do really think is that like, you know, the powers that be want us to be desensitized. The powers that be want us to be distracted. And as things are getting more volatile in the world, I mean, we see it in films, we like, why has it been in like the last 15 years, there's been so many apocalypse type of movies, you know, just talking about it, talking about it, talking about it, showing it, showing it, showing it.
>> And then we've been seeing all these aliens movies forever. And even your point to be the point you was making how you know things are are happen. We get over it. But like the president of America told the world there were aliens and nobody cared two days later. Obama literally said yes, they're aliens and he was dead ass serious and no one cared. The CIA dropped information about aliens. No one cares. And it's like now if two weeks from now aliens actually come down here, it'll be a big deal.
People be taking pictures. A week or two later, you know, it's just the aliens walk.
>> I I think that is exactly what it would be. Oh, wow. The aliens. Moving on.
>> Literally. What what what else is new?
Alien fashion is now in style.
Everyone's eating the gazup.
You know, we we'll find some way to make it stupid, man. Yeah, like >> things things change, things accelerate.
It's just or how how do one stay levelheaded?
>> It'll reverse, man.
>> While seeing Oh, yeah. Fashion is reversing. You know, fashion is reversing. Um, you know, you know, slim woman, you know, women are taking out the BBLs now.
>> Yeah. you know changing up changing that. So is more is I want to know I want to see what will will like reverse completely like now cigarette com like smoking is like not a thing anymore >> like >> it it's completely back >> back >> cigarette >> bro what >> who's smoking cigarettes now >> bro all of the young white people smoke cigarettes all of them >> young white people >> I >> say I don't their own young white I go out and I go to spots where literally like it's But that's the thing too. It's like um >> there has been a big decline in cigarettes. Let me check.
>> It's on the rise, bro. I've been seeing it more and more and more people like I've seen people nowadays I see people young people smoking cigarettes more than they smoke weed. And that's kind of what's shocking to me. has cigarette consumption declined as he's searching for that black people.
I think there's going to be a day and age coming very soon that conservative values and things that nature even like marriage, having a family and things that nature is going to become a luxury thing. I mean, we're already kind of at that position. Watch, look at all the celebrities and things that nature, you know, having a child, having a family and things that nature is luxury.
And it's going to be a very interesting shift how they rebrand conservatism because it is happening.
>> I leave you tonight. So in recent data, middle to high school students 1 to 2% currently smoke. Young adults 4 to 2% smokes. In the '9s teens were smoking 25 to 30%.
>> Jesus Christ. I'm telling you, you might think you're seeing smoking, but in 1990s, teens were around 25 to 30% of teenagers used to smoke. Now, it's 1 to 2% of teenagers. That's a 90% decline.
Today, 1 to 2% of teenagers smoke cigarettes before 25%. Change, massive drop. So like now it's probably switched to hookah or EpiPen or vapes, but like if I see a person with a cigarette now, you're like 45 to me. Yeah.
If you're smoking a cigarette now, you're not young.
But you're not.
A cigarette right now is such a taboo thing. I'm tell I've seen it so much different than in LA and especially recently. It's so interesting like Seco Tando these like bars where it's like people drink wines like the hipsters >> they're resurfacing that [ __ ] man.
>> Yeah. Telling you it's the little se like sections you're in you know >> you know I think people smoking weed. I remember one time we one time I never smoke a spliff but I remember one time weed was the thing.
>> Yeah. I don't even see people with weed often.
>> Wait, when you said spliff, were you talking about just weed?
>> Yeah.
>> That's crazy because >> that's what we call a spliff.
>> Here, spliffs is when you put tobacco and weed together.
>> Oh, no. Spliff is what we put. There's like when you get the paper, you roll it in, it's a spliff.
>> That's crazy. Yeah. It's crazy how the language is different.
>> Mhm.
>> Yeah. Well, don't ever ask somebody if they got a spliff. They'll give you what you don't want. Sees sees a spliff. mad out, get a spliff and and and he ain't a problem. But >> see me, I don't smoke anything.
Allegedly >> in in in 2018, I feel like half of LA smoked weed.
>> Yeah. Not anymore.
>> I can't I I can't tell when when was the last I can't tell when last I smell weed.
>> Right. But that's also the economy, too, man. I don't think people can afford afford it like that no more. No, I think it's I think it's become so accessible that now nobody really like >> cares about it that much.
>> Yeah. Is a lot of people like feeling like they're doing something wrong. You know, >> this is true.
>> You know, everybody like that it's is wrong. Let me >> you know, >> but I hang out with a lot of artists and like um creative types. So I mean granted people don't stop smoking weed in that area but it's uh >> it's not as common though.
>> It's not as common. It's not as common at all.
>> It's not I remember just remember bro remember there was a term stoner.
>> Yeah.
>> There was a term for people that smoke weed. A bunch of stoners just you see when was the last time you looked at somebody and tell they smoke weed?
>> Me?
>> Yeah.
>> Last weekend. See? Well, oh, you you went to Coachella still, so you should see, >> you know, and even the weed now is different. They call it pot and it's high. You you get frost more. It's nothing is the same.
>> They've been calling it pot for a while though, man.
>> No, man. Where I come from, I never hear Jamaican people say pot before. But >> why people say that?
>> Yeah. We call it ganja, marijuana, weed, herb, >> gas.
>> We even say gas.
>> Like the weed here, I don't even think is real weed.
>> What do you think it is?
>> Too you see like how they enhance food.
>> I mean, yeah, they >> they that the I >> bot this crosspollinating thing. I have never smoked a spliff in my life and I've been high by smelling somebody else's weed.
>> That's crazy.
>> No, this the the weed nowadays is not like normal weed.
>> No, but then again, I wouldn't know allegedly.
>> Just I've seen men smoke weed. I've known men that smoke weed all their lives.
Like for instance, I I have a friend visit from Jamaica.
This man ever since this man has always smoked weed and I is raster man musician it for for him weed is a joke thing and I've seen a spliff have this man sit down it's like he's like yo what this this is different I have never this is some whole this is is Mars this they need to name this weed Mars cuz things just different.
Just like I think people just are look for new highs now cuz I think so much people people smoke weed so much now that like that's not even getting me high enough right now. We need to dip this in like actual gas in in petroleum right now. Change the price.
>> They might as well do it, man. But then again, there's so there I mean there's videos and all that, but they've been enhancing and modifying, cross-pollinating, all these different I mean, from food to plants.
You know, we're in a day and age where people just want things enhanced and the next level of enhancement is human enhancement. It's going to be technological advances in regards to the body and things of that nature. We're going to get to a degree in time that sounds like a sci-fi but where those who can afford it won't age or won't have diseases. Like it's so weird but it's so crazy to think about it but in this like last five years there's been so many medical advances that's kind of nuts. Like cancer may not be a thing as we get older >> and AIDS would be great. Like for me, for me to see AIDS >> and HIV where it is now, listen to me.
Growing up in Jamaica, >> growing up, we used to say, "Man, if you catch AIDS, you're done. You're dead."
>> Yeah.
>> Your whole life is done.
>> Yeah.
>> You just jump off a bridge. Now, I'm seeing Oh, I I'm seeing there's AIDS pill. There is um there is a there's there's >> a preventive drug. you could take and you can't catch it.
>> Yeah. You can take a pill now to not catch AIDS.
>> Yeah.
>> Or you can have AIDS and take pills that make you have sex and you can't transmit it anymore.
>> Yeah.
>> Like I'm like, yo, >> let's let's not even jump past Ompic, bro. And Ozmpic is new. Look how fast it became normalized. Like it's so normalized. I was talking with u like this woman who um she >> you know, I've never actually seen that pill before. What is I know pep I I hear about that that's a new one now.
>> No, but it's that's a genre of pills like the ones that just enhance the body. There's there's one that people take now. It's not a steroid. Matter of fact, I actually will give the exact name cuz um I wrote it down because I thought it was crazy because I never heard of it. Um where is it?
But yeah, it's called Tessa Morlin. And apparently this drug um like it's like Botox or whatever. You just go get a shot and things that nature. It helps it literally helps you remove body fat from your stomach. It helps you build up fat or muscle faster, but it's not a steroid, you know? And there's that.
There's ompic. There's um like there's all these different like drugs we can take now that can like enhance your body. And I'm sitting here talking with this girl and it's not I'm not it's not romantic. We all just sitting around drinking wine and stuff. And she starts telling me how there's all these different drugs and all the rich people are taking them. How these soccer moms and rich moms they don't work out. They just take different drugs. And then this other person's a psychiatrist. And she's like, "Yeah, a lot of people think like all these successful people are just like so much smarter, have all this time. No, they take Adder. They take this for for sleep. They take this to be more focused and alert. Like every She's like they're like everybody's on drugs.
>> Listen to me. I am going to an event in May as in Vegas called the Enhanced Games."
>> What? Wait, you got a ticket for that?
Yep.
>> Man, I should have known, man. I would love to go to that joint. I need to get a ticket.
>> Enhanced games where it will be athletes are literally taking controlled drugs to like attempt to break records. And I think so just just speaking about this is crazy.
>> It's insane to even say it, you know.
But that's that's not even there's before the enhanced games, you know, they they had this um competition in um Miami, which for everyone listening, first disclaimer, it's it's a very strange what they did there, but they had a sperm race.
mend them came literally and gave their their sperm and people were watching whose sperm could race to the end the fastest.
>> That's what that that's what the world is right now.
>> They got [ __ ] games. They got I'm so serious. They got [ __ ] games. They got steroid enhanced games. They the world we're living in. They're looking for the they're everyone's looking for the most outlandish thing. I don't even think it's the outlandish thing.
>> Everyone's bored.
>> People are realizing that there's a billion ways to be rich.
Women out there selling feet, >> which is like that itself I just can never understand.
>> There is men out there right now that is purchasing farts, bags of farts.
>> Now, now he's joking.
>> No, no, it's dead serious. Dead serious.
There's women out there buying bags of farts. Men out there buying bags. Women farting in bags and they'll zip lock it and send it out.
>> How we make it to them? How it's a gas.
How else could make it to them?
>> Well, they I don't know how they deliver it, but >> you know, I I always thought people were just exaggerating with the whole I'll drink her bath water thing. They might be serious. There is a website that you can go on and you can literally pay somebody to take [ __ ] to somebody you don't like.
They will anonymously deliver [ __ ] to somebody house. You can like like anonymous they just if you think this world is just regular this is not a regular world >> man out there doing some crazy things.
So hey people wrap up my episode but yo people >> it's getting dark.
>> Don't forget don't forget to like, share, comment, uh subscribe if you're in Miami. I'm going to be there on May 17th. Um I'm actually my Netflix is a joke show.
>> Oh, nice.
>> Is um a week from now. The festival.
Crazy. Should be very interesting. Even that feels like a such a big deal and it's just like coming and almost gone.
>> Hopefully big things always feel small because they're being eclipsed by bigger things.
>> Hopefully.
I hope so. people get your tickets. Um, I'm out. You know, I I'll leave a pass through again. This is a very, very insightful reasoning and I hope you enjoy it. We're out of here. Peace.
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