News Conference: Douglas County leads statewide effort to combat child exploitation

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[00:00:02]Well, welcome everybody. It is a tremendous day today um not only in Douglas County but in the state of Colorado. And I'm really pleased and honored to be standing um with those that have survived the horrific issues that we're talking about today, as well as tremendous members of law enforcement, victims advocates, nonprofits, and so many that have been forming this coalition for some time.

[00:00:27]Today in the state of Colorado, we are taking another step towards ending child trafficking. And our biggest message for all citizens in the state of Colorado is that if you come to Colorado to buy children, you're going to get caught.

[00:00:44]And if you get caught, you're going to go to jail. The work that we've been doing on Senate Bill 15 um really began with what I call my angel. It's Janelle Goodrich. Get up here. Um Janelle Goodrich is the director of From Silence to Saved, which is a phenomenal nonprofit uh in the state of Colorado that literally works hands-on with victims of child trafficking to get them off the streets and directed to the care that they need. Um years ago, my church had a video that said that there are more child trafficking sites than there are Starbucks in the Denver metro area.

[00:01:18]We know that the statistic is we are 10th in the nation for trafficking. Um, that's unacceptable to this coalition.

[00:01:26]It's unacceptable to the people of the state of Colorado. It's unacceptable to the 400,000 people that I represent and the millions that live here in this state. Um, Janelle came to me with this notion of Abe, look, do you realize in the state of Colorado you can get probation for solicitation of a child?

[00:01:45]And we've been working really hard on a couple of issues. We passed a massage parlor ordinance requiring every county to license massage parlors. got that passed in a very bipartisan fashion. But um Janelle was not done and she came after this uh like a tiger, not willing to release it and said, "We've got to run this bill." We had a little bit of a tough time last session, but um talked her into running again uh this this year. And thanks to amazing leadership, we have um a really special individual here with us, Minority Leader Jarvis Caldwell, uh key sponsor on this bill, as well as Monica Duran, uh the House leader. We had Byron Pelton, um as well as many others in the Senate that did such a phenomenal job um supporting and sponsoring this bill. So, we're deeply thankful to them. Uh it was not an easy session by any means. Uh, I think there was a moment in uh, appropriations where we got slapped with an $18 million fiscal note. And I have to recognize Douglas County Sheriff Darren Weekly because at that moment we were told, well, it's going to be $18 million cuz the bill's going to work. You're going to probably incarcerate on average another 13 people per year. And the state doesn't have a place for them. Uh, I called the sheriff and the sheriff said, "We have room. We have room. we can get the bad guys and we'll keep them here if we need to. So that got integrated and amended into the bill, dropped the fiscal note down to zero. We got out of appropriations and then uh we got to judiciary and we have some amazing advocates. I really want to highlight the work of Seaworld Handfling and uh Mariah in particular who was uh gosh 7 months pregnant uh while she was advocating for this amazing coalition and her comment was when my daughter is born I want to tell her that we got this bill passed. So for baby Eleanor and Mariah and the whole team uh you did it and we're so happy um that it got done.

[00:03:41]But when we got to judiciary, uh, she said, "Commissioner, I'm sorry, but we have 5.5 out of 11 votes." And if it wasn't for the amazing Abby Hegerty, who literally I think we yanked her into the hallway and said, "You got to talk to these folks about affirmative defenses and all these issues that were popping up. Um, we might not have achieved what we did, but we got out of judiciary 110 unanimous." So, that just moved things forward. um really strong almost unanimous support in the House and Senate on concurrence. And today uh I want to express my thanks to Governor Jared Polus for signing this bill, Senate Bill 15, into law. Uh I also want to recognize our phenomenal district attorney George Brockler, who from the beginning, yes, you uh we say we should do a podcast together where I would be less funny and he would be much more funny. But um we'll leave it there. But you know, this man stood up before you and said, "We are going to keep Douglas County safe." And he's a man of his word, and he has done that. And now, I believe he has additional tools to be able to do that and work with great people like Abby and others to prosecute these crimes when they happen. Um, I want to have him come up here and share a little bit more. But before I do, I also want to recognize my amazing commissioner colleague, former senator, former representative Kevin Van Winkl, who has been working so diligently on behalf of really all Coloradoatans, but particularly the safety of children for many, many years. And if it wasn't for him and my other colleague, George Teal, we would not have had the resources to advocate for this bill this year. So, huge thanks to you, bud.

[00:05:19]>> George, >> thank you. I'm a little nervous.

[00:05:23]>> Um, No, I'm not. I'm not. Uh I want to begin by saying that incarceration works. And I'm glad we're at a place now where we can say that for the most vulnerable in our community that if you pray upon them, the likelihood of you being held accountable behind bars has gone way, way up. Now, truth be told, my role in this was to be the guy way, way back who set some things in motion, and I needed the commissioners to do it. So about a year ago, as we started to analyze this new judicial district and look at what are the needs of this community going to be, one of the things that became pretty apparent was that human trafficking and internet internet crimes against children was going to be a big deal. And we wanted to get in front of it, not play catch-up to it, but get out in front of it. And the commissioner said, "We agree." And so they allowed us to fund the creation of a specialized position, a subject matter expert in this. And that person is the forementioned senior deputy district attorney Abby Heggerty, who then goes to the legislature and doesn't just speak wisdom to power, but also when needed goes back and fills their heads full of all the facts that disabuse them of why prison might be a bad thing for people that want to commercially sex traffic our kids. And so, uh, I've asked Abby if she wanted to say a few words. She said no. I'm just telling you, I would love it if Abby would come up here and say stuff. She said she's willing to answer questions on the technical stuff, but my role in this was to just say, "What can we do to make this community safer?" And between Abby and the commissioner support and frankly Janelle and the team of the victim, they're the ones that got this thing done. They're the ones that got it over the goal line. I don't want to miss an opportunity though to pay some respect and thanks to the folks that I normally throw some sharp elbows at in the legislature cuz there's not a chance that this thing happens on just Republican votes. Couldn't happen. I don't know if any of you have seen this.

[00:07:25]We don't actually control any lever of state government at all. And so what it really took was an appreciation, an understanding, and an agreement that on issues like this, there isn't a right or a left. There isn't a progressive or a conservative. There are people that came together to protect these kids. And that's how we were able to get this done with the good work of uh the folks behind me. My great hope is that we keep this trend going. I'm sure Janelle's going to come up here and have eight other bills that she wants to run over the next year or two. But I'll just throw this out. This is the step in the right direction. The next step in my mind is if you rape a child, even one and even once, you also ought to go to prison. So, we're on the road towards protecting the most vulnerable. Uh I'm honored to have played a really small role by supporting the much better people that stand behind me. Am I supposed to introduce someone? I got you. Okay. Are you sure?

[00:08:26]>> Yeah. George, thank you.

[00:08:28]>> Yeah. Outstanding. Um, I'd like to call up our house our amazing champion, House Minority Leader Jarvis Caldwell.

[00:08:35]>> Thank you very much. Absolutely. Thanks, sir.

[00:08:38]>> Thank you, Commissioner Leen. Hello, everybody. I am House Minority Leader Jarvis Caldwell. I represent Northern El Paso County, House District 20. You know what I said earlier at the the bill signing is that, you know, because my name's on the bill and I'm in the state legislature, I tend to get a lot of credit for this, but I I I don't feel deserving enough. I really want to give the credit to the the survivors, the victims, and the advocates who are standing here with us today. and also give a special shout out to the Douglas County elected officials um such as Commissioner Leaden, Commissioner Van Winkl, uh DA Brockler, and just um Douglas County has been so imperative uh in this fight here and this is this is we're celebrating this today, but this is years in the process. This took years to get accomplished and I just want to just emphasize how important that is that we've known this that we've known for a while this is a problem and we've been working on it for years and today is finally the day uh where we get some conclusion to that. But what I want to leave you with here is that this is not the finish line. This is the starting line. This is a huge hurdle that we've tried to get for years. We got there today. However, there is still a lot more to do. Um such as the minimum mandatory sentences as DA Brockler pointed out. Uh the idea that you could uh rape a child in Colorado and uh get probation for it is unacceptable. Uh I I do think it sends a strong message that you had the House Minority Leader and the House Majority Leader, a Democrat and a Republican together. And I think that sent a really strong signal to the rest of the legislative body that this is something that we're setting out to accomplish this year for sure because we'd had uh some attempts in the past that didn't get through all the way. But I think having us on there this year really sent the signal that this is a priority here in Colorado. It is unacceptable that we're top 10 in the nation for this. There's no excuse for it whatsoever. Uh as I said earlier at the bill signing, you know, you can measure a society uh a country uh by how they um protect their most vulnerable, which is our children here in Colorado.

[00:10:35]And as a military member, a former military member, I've traveled all around the world. I've lived in Europe.

[00:10:40]I've lived in Asia, spent some time in the Middle East, and I can tell you, it seems obvious in this room with all of us that protecting children should be one of the most important things we do, the most important thing we do. That's not the case everywhere, but it is here in America and it is here in Colorado.

[00:10:55]And this bill sends that message. And again, this is the starting line, not the finish line. And I appreciate everybody so much. Thank you.

[00:11:03]Okay.

[00:11:04]>> So, I'd like to bring back up our subject matter expert, uh, Janelle Goodrich, who really is the author and the hero of this legislation. Um, I am always proud to just be your champion.

[00:11:15]Uh, but this is your concept, your idea, and your advocacy that got us here.

[00:11:20]Would you want to share some words with us and maybe help the public understand what we're talking about here because I think you were a great educator of me and many others.

[00:11:28]>> Okie dokie.

[00:11:30]Um, my name is Janelle Goodrich and I'm the executive director and founder of From Silence to Saved. We're a third-party case management and advocacy organization that responds on scene with law enforcement for recovery of minors that have been trafficked. So, this has been a project of mine for quite some time years ago when I first started doing this work almost 12 years ago. And I really thought that we were going to see a case to the end and somebody was going to be held accountable. And then I watched a minor get harder charges for things that they were involved in than the men that were purchasing her. And over the years working on the streets being in these cases from start to finish um over and over again it says why don't you go after the John's? Why aren't they being held accountable?

[00:12:24]because they are the ones that are making this happen. The demand side is what makes this happen. There's three parts of trafficking. You have your trafficker, which is the supplier, and you have your buyer, which is the demand. And in the middle, there's a person. And in this situation for SB15 in all of the statutes that are covered in SB15, it's a child. And now today, my favorite part about this bill, aside from the accountability, is that so many years have gone by where we have used legal language where we put the onus on the child and we say things like prostituted child or child prostitute.

[00:13:03]At 10:45 this morning, that is no longer legal language. It you cannot say it anymore. It is commercial sexual activity with a minor which puts the ownership and onus directly back on the person who did it to them and created that trauma to them in the first place and that drives the demand of human trafficking. And we will not move the needle unless we go to it from both sides. And so that is what drove me to push this bill and um endure a little bit of my own trauma over the years trying to get it through. But we're here and so I'm very happy and I am very grateful to you for >> letting me drag you along. Thank you.

[00:13:43]>> Thank you Janelle. Keep keep dragging us along. And >> I think when Janelle speaks, we listen and when you hear the statistics, you can't look away and you can't ignore it.

[00:13:52]So our purpose today is to not only deter the byside and the John's, but to alert decision makers, elected officials that this is real, this is here. use this law and let's continue to do the work. Um so with that, thank you so much um for joining us today. We'll open it up for any questions.

[00:14:10]>> Douglas County rocks.

[00:14:11]>> Yeah.

[00:14:13]>> Can you elaborate on the use of the Douglas County Jail? Is that like the main place that these perpetrators really taken or is it just kind of overflow space?

[00:14:22]>> Yeah, and we can speak a little bit more to that, Abby. Um, so, so part of the issue, uh, is that the concern in appropriations is that we were going to be 18 million over because we'd incarcerate about 13 more individuals.

[00:14:34]It was, it would work. We would catch John's, but then there's no place to put them. Um, we run Douglas County pretty tight. Our sheriff's office does a great job managing that jail. And really, it's about managing that overflow, and we do have space if we need that. Um, they would be kept safe and protected and separate from the community. They are incarcerated of course. Um but it was really our sheriff who stepped into that space and said um we can do this.

[00:15:00]>> Do you have the data of the number of the victims at this moment?

[00:15:08]>> Victims. I mean there's >> there's multiple statutes in this bill, right? All the way from solicitation of a minor all the way down to internet luring. You're talking about how many human trafficking victims there are.

[00:15:18]Yes.

[00:15:19]>> Like in like on the planet?

[00:15:21]>> No. In Colorado. thousands.

[00:15:25]Too many. So, um, let's put it this way.

[00:15:29]On average, there's anywhere from one to three victims in a case. Over the past decade, over 300 human trafficking cases have been filed. That's just on the human trafficking of a minor um, charge.

[00:15:40]that doesn't, you know, incorporate also the ancillary charges that come with it like pimping, the solicitation of a minor, internet luring, pandering, procurement, all of the other things that are encompassed into SB15. So, thousands and I think it's less than 3% that are actually identified. So, >> yeah. And I, you know, one thing that Janelle, why don't you stay up here, one thing that she really educated me about, she's like, Abe, it's not like the movie Taken. I think people think, well, you got to watch your kids at the mall because somebody's not exactly. So, you know, the way you described it to me, it could be two girls on a cheerleading squad and a suburban area much like this, and one says, "Hey, if you share elicit photographs of yourself with a guy downtown, he'll pay you for that."

[00:16:25]Um, then that individual, that adult extorts that young woman for photos and compels her to do more. Uh, otherwise, she's exposed. Um, we're doing a lot in Douglas County with definitely for sure.

[00:16:37]Um but but obviously related, right? So any sort of child exploitation or related to online uh luring or harassment is significant to us.

[00:16:45]>> Um in the county, we've been working really hard to to elevate youth recreation and youth sports. And I was approached by a really significant youth recreational sports leader that indicated four young boys under 13 on his team were approached on Snapchat with what they thought was a 14-year-old girl. And they were asked to provide photos of themselves that were inappropriate. And the second they did that, it switched just like that. And it was actually an adult man that said, "If you don't provide these photos on a weekly basis, your coach is going to find out. your school's going to find out. You're going to get expelled. Your parents are going to find out.

[00:17:28]And what's tough is like these poor young kids, regardless of your background, for for months, you know, they just had to keep this to themselves. And I'm so thankful that like, you know, kids like this are brave enough to come forward to their coaches and their staff and say, "Look, this is what happened to me." But it's not always the case. And we don't know how many That's why it's a tough statistic.

[00:17:49]We don't know how many kids are being targeted on Roblox and Tik Tok and Snapchat. Um, but we're working on it.

[00:17:56]And people like Abby and George and our great law enforcement, uh, they conduct stings. So, you know, they will pose, they will pose as the 14-year-old and maybe have five adult men show up at a location and then those five guys get arrested. So, you know, when when tragedies arise, I like the Mr. Rogers quote, which is look to the helpers. far more helpers than there are bad circumstances. And I know this is dark and it's tough to talk about, but the goal is that you hear it and you don't forget. So, I think that's part of it.

[00:18:28]Any more you want to share on that?

[00:18:29]>> I would just say that in SB15 in this bill alone, internet luring was an F4 and now it will be a class 3 felony, which that would require that mandatory jail sentence that they'll have to do.

[00:18:41]Also including SOISP, which is the sex offender intense probation. so they can actually work on fixing themselves to not have that and hopefully help with that that continuous cycle of what they've been doing. Recetivism. Thank you. That's the word I was looking for.

[00:19:00]>> And I I'd be remiss if I didn't Yeah.

[00:19:01]Did you want to share?

[00:19:02]>> I was just going to add a little context.

[00:19:03]>> Please, please, please, please, please.

[00:19:05]>> Uh to add a little context to your question there. So, uh, because of the the state budget deficit here in Colorado, we were facing upwards of $ 1.5 billion budget deficit, when you any bill this year that came through the legislature that had a fiscal note on it was it was at risk of of not making it through. And so, when Commissioner Leaden was talking about an $18 million fiscal note, that was the cost that it was going to uh cost the state to put these offenders in uh the DOC. And so when we're talking about how Douglas County stepped up and Sheriff Darren Weekly is saying, "Look, we can save the state the cost of locking up these people because we'll put them in our our county jail instead of the state, which is driving that cost there." And so, I mean, it was absolutely I I can't emphasize enough imperative um to have uh people like Sheriff Weekly step up and and offer um that facility there because if not for that, I don't think the bill would have passed with that fiscal note because when you have a $ 1.5 billion budget deficit, I mean, you might as well there's not much difference between a $1 million fiscal note and $18 million because the money's just not there. And so, again, I just really want to emphasize how important it was for Douglas County to step up in the way they did.

[00:20:18]You all touched on kind of fragments this previous point about while this law is going to hopefully deter horrible people from doing things to children in our communities, but also part of that will be educating kids, parents, etc. What will that look like in our community? Because as these predators evolve and they change their ways, knowing how to what knowing how to stop it is going to be crucial. What is that going to look like? That's such a great question and we just uh had a really significant town hall in Douglas County.

[00:20:49]We're hosting a series of courageous conversations and that topic was about online bullying and harassment, how to protect your kids from some of the predatory behaviors that happen online.

[00:21:00]And the biggest message is for parents.

[00:21:02]I mean, we have amazing citizens in Douglas County, amazing parents. It's their onus and their duty to continue to stay educated, monitor their kids' activities. Um, don't think you can just have your kids download Tik Tok and Snapchat and Roblox and think that they're not going to be um, vulnerable on some level. I'm I'm 50 and when I was growing up it was Nintendo and you plug in a Super Mario Brothers and you just play the game. Um, and now, you know, kids put on a headset and you're you have access to the world. So, parents staying engaged and informed about what's happening online is is really mission critical. So, um, I did want to share one other really important fact and Janelle, come up. I One thing that's important is she emphasized the by side.

[00:21:48]I think when the average citizen thinks about trafficking, they're thinking about, you know, the stereotype, which is not always accurate. Somebody with, you know, tattoos downtown off Kfax, which may be not totally inaccurate, but we're not talking about the traffickers in >> With all due respect, I'm on KFax a lot.

[00:22:05]>> You're exactly. This is We're in Ink and Tattoos. I know. I get it. Um but we're talking about the buy side and the buy side looks very different. Do you want to share what that demographic looks like?

[00:22:17]>> Yeah. So what we know through research over years, even if you look at the um the fiscal analysts report that did this for majority of the men being charged with this throughout the state, it is primarily middle-aged white men married with two children with memes. And so the majority of the demand side is coming out of influential communities such as Douglas County, which is why it is so imperative and important that they were the ones to step up to state it. We understand that the majority of that buyside is coming from us and we need to make sure that we're addressing that because they are maybe not victimizing as many Douglas County kids, but they are definitely victimizing kids in the state of Colorado and they're coming from here. And so that is the makeup and profile of your typical buyer nationwide.

[00:23:10]>> So what jail sentence would they face for the internet luring now versus before? It sounds like jail wasn't even on the table. it was well I mean it's on the table it's a presumptive range meaning suggestion um which means they don't get it. So with that said there's a multitude of statutes in this um the top one that was in SB15 is the solicitation of a minor for commercial sexual activity. That's the one that the minority leader was just speaking about that was driving such a large fiscal note for all of the other statutes in there. the pimping, the pandering, the keeping place of prostitution, procurement, and internet luring >> and enticement. A >> and enticement. See, I knew there was a few. Um, those all become mandatory Department of Corrections. And so, they will spend a minimum of four years in jail, also have to register as a sex offender, and then go through that intense probation. for the solicitation piece, which is where you try to purchase and sex with a minor.

[00:24:10]Um, that is the one that was driving the fiscal note because the majority of the men charged in the state of Colorado were not seeing jail time. And so in order for them to see jail time per the stats that they had on hand was showing that it would cost that much to put them in jail. So the legislature got really creative and in the legislative deck it states that not only do they want to take force criminality into account because sometimes you know victims can be charged when they're adults too to take that into account but to also really ask them and encourage them to sentence to DOC. But should a judge sentence that individual charged and found guilty of solicitation of commercial sexual activity with a minor to probation, then a year of that probation will have to be sent spent in a county jail. So, it's DOC or county jail. Either way, they will be held accountable and have to go see some time behind bars.

[00:25:11]>> Yeah. And I I'd be remiss if I didn't have our smart attorney, Abby Hegerty, up here. We have a lot of smart attorneys. Yeah, I'm not going to include myself in that bunch, but Abby, if you want to answer that question a little bit more about sentencing.

[00:25:21]>> Okay. Um, with respect, I think your question was about internet luring. Um, there's different ways you can lure a child or different purposes. If you lure a child for any purpose, it's a class 5 felony. That's not touched by this. If you lure a child for the purpose of sexual activity, it's a class 4 felony.

[00:25:38]That's what we had initially before this bill passed. And the judge had the option at sentencing to sentence either to sex offender intensive supervised probation for an indeterminant or potentially lifetime period of time or the department of corrections for a determinant or set amount of years. And we were seeing largely that they were getting that probation option or through plea offers getting a not lifetime a set number of years of probation under this bill. um luring a child for commercial sexual activity, i.e. you're going to pay a child for sex, is now a class three felony and it is mandatory prison.

[00:26:17]So it's no longer that scenario pre this bill where you have probation, even lifetime probation on the table. It's now mandatory prison.

[00:26:28]>> Thanks, Abby. Any other questions?

[00:26:31]>> We all you all mentioned before it's been a long road to get to this point, but there's still a lot of work to be done. What does this how did this start the process of continuing that work over the course of the next decade?

[00:26:44]We're standing here 10 years from now.

[00:26:46]What do you hope we're saying?

[00:26:47]>> That's a great question. I'm going to ask Janelle to come back up because once again, I mean, as we speak, she's already been out to DC and we have uh legislation introduced in Congress, uh, federal legislation around child trafficking. But do you want to speak more about that >> and just the DC >> everything that's next? Um, I mean, I have lots of ideas for Colorado, but um, >> I think Janelle should run for office. I did say that in front of the cameras, so >> hard pass. Um, but so what he's speaking about in DC is kind of taking this I I think everyone's heard about the Epstein files, right? You've been under a rock if you haven't. One of the big things about the Epstein files is that every a lot of the situations that men could be charged with under the crimes that are being talked about in there um, are under title 18. And there's not a a clear carveout. There seems to be some confusion if you can charge the demand side under title 18 which is their human trafficking the federal statute. And so we are going to remove that confusion and we are it just dropped in House Judiciary and Congress last week and we will be doing a carveout for solicitation on the federal side and also when you pass things that are crystal clear federally in my experience resources also come behind it for your task forces that from the FBI and HSI that are able to do those types of operation. ations with simulated victims to kind of get ahead of that problem and be preventative about it. Um resources will be able to go to that and it's just going to make it that much stronger, right? So, we'll save it for another day on my ideas for next year. We don't want to ruin it.

[00:28:31]>> Can I answer a question about someone asked here about where do we think we want to be in 10 years? Um, I one I think I'll be the DA of the new 24th Judicial District, which will just be Douglas County. At that point, we're just going to keep whittling it down till we till we get to just Castle Pines. Um, but no matter who's the DA in 10 years, what I'd like is for Abby to be board silly. I'd like to never have to go back to Doug or the commissioners, whoever they are at the time, and say, "We got to grow this unit because we're too successful." You know, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. I That's what I think we're at right now, by the way, for what Abby does. Um, and I'd really like it to be something else. I'd like this to be one of those one-off type crimes instead of uh the volume that I think is there right now. And let's be honest, you know, based on Janelle's numbers, just 3% come forward. My guess is if we threw three or four more abbies at this and we had more HT unit uh human trafficking um task forces and more IAC task forces, we could generate cases every single day. Uh maybe multiple cases every single day. Uh that's going to be the future until we change culture. And the culture that we're trying to change is one where any adult looks at a kid and sees a kid and only a kid, not something to be lusted after, not something to try to satisfy some lascivious urge. And so 10 years from now, will we be there? We're going to work like hell to make sure that that happens. And if we got to lock up a bunch of people along the way, I'm in.

[00:30:09]>> Yeah, that's a really good comment. And we have a phenomenal DA. our I I want to highlight the work that Kevin has done and our board um as well because part of the focus is the resources and as you heard from the DA we could fund several more IAK and IAK is internet crimes against children um professionals that are detectives, prosecutors and they would be working around the clock. So what I do want to share um with our folks in the press and the public is that you are going to see more cases originating originating out of Douglas County. That's not because there's more of those offenders here, but it's because these amazing professionals behind me are going to be laser focused on it. They are going to be conducting the stings. They are going to prosecute uh these bad guys. So, you're going to see more cases for a long time. But to George's point, I think the hope is that with your help, this message goes so far and wide that those guys that think that it might be okay to come to Colorado and buy a child will think twice. and we go from 10th in the nation to maybe 50th out of 50. Uh any other questions?

[00:31:16]Well guys, thank you so much for your time today. Huge congratulations again.

[00:31:19]This is for the victims and thank you again to all the the victims that are here representing this coalition. Thank you all.

[00:31:24]>> Thank you for joining us.