Chris Watts: She had BITTEN OFF her lip says Forensic Doctor !

[00:00:00]was a cruel way to die. She had an awareness that something was was wrong.

[00:00:04]And the fact that I'm I'm I'm kind of struck by this uh thinking about the kids here. [music] She's a pregnant lady. She's got two other babies in the house. I call them babies.

[00:00:17]Um and she's not fighting. I want to know what the circumstances were, where these little girls were during all of this. She's dressed for bed. Yeah. Uh let me paint a picture for you, Jessie.

[00:00:27][music] Uh these two little girls were found in raw petroleum. Dumped into these vats. One girl to the point, Bella, where she's got superficial scratches on her buttock where she was jammed [music] through this portal. A tuft of hair is caught in this thing. The wife is buried in this this sandy-like composition soil decomposing. We talked about the body being bloated in this way, thing.

[00:00:54]He >> Welcome back [applause] everyone. Hope you're all well. Today, we're going to have a look at a report from a forensic analyst or a forensic doctor or whatever you want to call him.

[00:01:10]Forensica, whatever name you want to choose to call him, forensics person.

[00:01:15]I can't even think what they're called.

[00:01:17]His name is Joseph Scott Morgan. He's the forensics guy that's had a look at the forensics report. How many times do I want to say forensics? So, without being too graphic, we know that the girls suffered injuries whilst he was I'd say between 19 trying to get them into the tanks. I've spoke about this before, but I won't read the autopsies out because I think it's distasteful, but if someone else does it, then you can't blame me. So, I'm going to get this doctor to read it out who was on Law & Crime, so credit to Law & Crime.

[00:01:46]I've never seen this interview before, so I thought it'd be good for us to have a look at. It does go into some details like the bite marks, the interoral injuries, easy for you to say, interoral injuries, I think it is. Abrasions on one of the girls lower part of her body.

[00:02:03]And obviously, there would be oil in certain places. But, one comforting thing to know is that at least in all this, there is a positive that the girls weren't alive when they went into the tanks. And we know that there was a lack of external injuries on CC. So, that was a good thing. Bad as it sounds, but you know what I mean. So, Joseph Scott Morgan gave an interview to Law & Crime.

[00:02:25]It's two parts. This is part one. So, Joseph Scott Morgan's one of the most prominent and recognizable forensic experts in the field. And he's got two decades worth of knowledge. He's that prominent, in fact, he's one of the people that established the national training guidelines for forensics and death. So, the guy's a big cheese, so they say. He's a professor also at Jacksonville State in Alabama. In this cruel world, unfortunately, he teaches the brutal sees and the brutal realities of being in the field where death is concerned. And he does a good job of getting rid of [snorts] all the Hollywood myths and dealing with reality, in the second part of the video, we're going to have a look at the DP.

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[00:03:48]>> One of the most striking things for me, uh of, you know, all of the data that's contained in there, is um I think I'd have to go to Bella's. Uh that's the oldest child.

[00:04:02]Uh when we consider it, uh the child has got uh uh a ruptured or uh as I say a lacerated frenulum, which is the little connective tissue between your gum and your upper lip, and also uh lower as well.

[00:04:17]Little abraded areas in here.

[00:04:20]And she's bitten her tongue, and this gives us an indication that she was smothered. Uh not suffocated, not strangled, but smothered. And uh >> [clears throat] >> in my opinion, uh daddy, uh if I can use that term for this man, uh placed his hand over her little mouth and nose as she's struggling uh to survive, and she fought back. Uh she fought back. Uh that's why all of this is torn to shreds, and I think that that's uh that paints a real picture of the horror and the terror that he inflicted on his family. And it's just it uh you know, sometimes you think you've plumbed the depths of human depravity, and then um and then after seeing this case and having covered it for since it started, uh I I I've been waiting for this autopsy report, and uh um it just it's it's unbelievable.

[00:05:18]>> It's we've been waiting for the report.

[00:05:19]We just hate what we're reading. This how could someone who was loved by these three women, these and do this?

[00:05:26]So, explain this to me cuz I I I don't have an answer.

[00:05:28]>> Uh I have no idea, Jess. I I I scratched my head over this thing uh many, many times. Uh you know, when the details began to come out, and I'm thinking uh you know, um you've been entrusted uh by, you know, these peripheral family members to take care of your family. You know, the it was, you know, the dad's Shannan's father's statement.

[00:05:56]>> Yeah.

[00:05:58]Joseph, it's actually impossible to describe Talk more about it. Joseph, I want to focus now on the autopsy report with Shannan Watts. What did you discover in particular when those reporters when that report was released about the way that she died?

[00:06:12]>> Relative to Shannan, [clears throat] what we did find is if folks at home will kind of find the center right here your where your thyroid cartilage is in this area, your trachea.

[00:06:24]She had a focal area focal area of hemorrhage in what's referred to as a strap muscle. It's kind of a muscle that runs diagonally through here on the right aspect to a lesser degree on the on the left side, but very focalized in this area, which gives us an indication that she was probably what we'll refer to as C-clamped or throttled. C-clamped is a single hand throttled or both hands.

[00:06:51]Some people have proposed that she had been killed while she was asleep. I'm I'm unclear.

[00:06:58]And there's not much of a struggle. She doesn't have defensive injuries and all that sort of thing.

[00:07:04]But what is very important here is that this cartilage in here has potential to fracture. There is no fracturing that took place.

[00:07:16]The this area that that we examined very closely at autopsy just displays this this kind of overlying hemorrhage. So, my thought is is that sufficient amount of force was applied by Chris Watts to her throat in in a very short order.

[00:07:36]You know, some people have talked about it took two to three minutes for her to die.

[00:07:41]Um, I don't know about that. I think that she probably passed out relatively quickly. He would have had to have continued to apply pressure for a little while in order to achieve uh anoxia and then finally she would have succumbed from lack of oxygen supply to the brain.

[00:07:59]There's no particular hemorrhages either. I think I've seen a lot of chatter on the internet about this. That is these the soft areas in the eye, you get these little pinprick hemorrhages.

[00:08:07]You guys probably hear about that on TV and that sort of thing. And that is something that we look for, but it's not always indicative. Uh people think that that's just a hard and fast rule that you're going to have these. That's not always the case though. Uh needless to say, um it was a brutal way to die. She had an awareness that something was was wrong.

[00:08:27]And the fact that I'm I'm I'm kind of struck by this uh thinking about the kids here.

[00:08:35]She's a pregnant lady. She's got two other babies in the house. I call them babies. Um, and she's not fighting. I I want to know what the circumstances were, where these little girls were during all of this. She's dressed for bed. When you look at the autopsy report, she's wearing a t-shirt, a pair of underwear. It's not like she, you know, uh she got off of the plane in Denver, came home, and they got into a fight after and she's still in a business suit or something. She's prepared for bed.

[00:09:03]>> I want to explore that as well. Um, what the proximity with the girls and we're going to get more into that in a minute and we can't forget the fact that Cindy and Ronnie Watts, the parents of Chris Watts, they have to accept the fact [clears throat] that their son did what you just described, Joseph. And we saw Cindy Watts speak out in the court. A statement was read on behalf of Ronnie Watts.

[00:09:24]>> Yeah, let me paint a picture for you, Jessie. These two little girls were found in raw petroleum dumped into these vats. One girl to the point, Bella, where she's got superficial scratches on her buttock where she was jammed through this portal. A tuft of hair is caught in this thing. The wife is buried in this this sandy-like composition salt decomposing. We talked about the body being bloated and this sort of thing.

[00:09:54]He's the only person that witnessed this, Jesse. He's the only person that can kind of tie this back. But yet he sits there quietly. Even BTK and let's bring him up. Even BTK was compelled to allocate and I know that was in Kansas.

[00:10:11]But for him to sit there and not give us a view, not offer up something to these survivors as to what happened. He has one currency left and that is the currency of mercy and he chose not to use it, Jesse.

[00:10:30]In this this this idea about talking, you you're saying that you're guilty.

[00:10:37]In this idea of putting forth these ideas or putting forth a statement relative to what happened on that night, he could have at least begun to help these families heal. So that they're not just going to be kind of bumping around in the dark for the rest of their life thinking about what happened to my precious family that's now gone and this guy sitting in a cage and it it brings me back. I really wonder I really I really wonder if perhaps just perhaps counsel has advised him not to say anything that maybe that's one last bargaining chip he can use to to leverage himself in some way. But just looking at him and seeing these past reactions that we've seen this narcissistic self-centered nonsense, it wouldn't surprise me if he's holding it back on purpose and I think that it is it's one of the cruelest things uh, to be witnessed to.

[00:11:31]>> Well, we're asking to get into the mind of Chris Watts, and I'm not sure that's a place anyone wants to be because trying to understand his behavior and his actions makes absolutely no sense.

[00:11:41]How does he do that porch interview saying that he doesn't know what happened to his family, nice little smile on his face, seems all nice and concerned, and then really, in reality, he is the person, that man right there responsible for what happened to his whole family.

[00:11:56]So, trying to understand why he does certain things and why he doesn't and trying to see if he shows emotion, it's going to be impossible to do. Let's focus though back on the girls because trying to understand how this killing occurred, when you read the autopsy report, you spoke a little bit about Shannan Watts maybe was in bed and going to, you know, was about to go to sleep.

[00:12:14]What did we learn about the girls and the way that they were dressed and and any indication about the time frame of that, those killings?

[00:12:21]>> Yeah, that that's that's the million-dollar question here.

[00:12:25]Um, I I searched the literature on my end to see if there's any any possible research that that had been done relative to body submerged in raw petroleum. Leave it to me to [clears throat] look up for something like that, right?

[00:12:39]>> your search history is probably >> [laughter] >> interesting, Joseph.

[00:12:41]>> I couldn't I couldn't find anything, and I'm I'm really wondering, uh, because my big question all along has been what we refer to as PMI, which is postmortem interval.

[00:12:53]I want to know how long it has been, and there are too many variables involved in this uh, with a body that is submerged or floating in raw petroleum. Remember, this was back in August in Eastern uh, East Central uh, Colorado. Uh, heat and environment plays it. I don't know if it remained cool in there. They did talk about there was significant changes to particularly Cece, the youngest one.

[00:13:21]That was mentioned over and over again, and I'm not going going into all of the graphic details for folks at home. You can read it for yourself, but um it would give us an indication that she was subject to a lot of heat, environmental heat in this environment.

[00:13:37]And so, I can't peg down the time, and that's what really haunts me because I'm trying to figure this out. It's very convoluted. Um and the big question I've always had about all of this was he in the house with his children deceased the entire weekend >> Right.

[00:13:54]>> prior to his wife coming home. And if that was the case, why wasn't there a huge physical fight?

[00:14:01]Because the person who >> Yeah, Jesse, we're still trying to get answers after this. And as you said, the fact that he didn't provide a statement to the court, we're still left with more questions. And unfortunately, that's just the situation. So, the idea of him trying to cover this up, right? So, he gives the porch interview. We all know about that porch interview. But physically trying to get rid of the bodies, he dumps it at his work site, you know? And then the cameras are catching. So, really, did did he expect not to be caught? I mean, you've seen a lot of crime scenes before.

[00:14:35]>> I I can only I can only assume that that that that at the end of the day, that's what he's thinking. I'm I'm going to get away from I'm going to get away from with this. And also, the vastness of this location where he works, Jesse, this is a huge huge plot of land, very isolated. These tanks are really big.

[00:14:54]And I'm assuming that he just thought that, you know, the bodies would simply, you know, just kind of disappear beneath this murky, inky blackness in the tank, and it would never he would never be found out. Um it wasn't very well thought out. And also, if you look at Shannan's burial, um it's very superficial. It's not very deep. It wasn't thought out very well.

[00:15:17]And um the world that we live in now, you can be pinged on your cell phone. You They can catch you on CCTV. There is an awareness at least at a digital level of where you are pretty much at all times.

[00:15:30]So, I can't imagine that he put a lot of thought into this. Um The DA talked about how it wasn't a frenzied killing. I agree. It seemed rather controlled. I think that he had thought about that. But, that's that's the rub when it comes to all of these that I've seen over the years. Now that you've killed somebody, what are you going to do with their bodies? And so, that's that's something that that's a big driver because people, you know, they they have that oh, no, you know, kind of moment, you know, like, how am I going to deal with this? Um you know, those of us that work in the morgue and places like that, you know, it's kind of passe for us to to look at a body. We know where the body goes. But, just the everyday person that's out there, um it's a big leap to take.

[00:16:19]>> [music] >> This house is not complete [music] with without anybody here.

[00:16:28]>> The haunting stare of a desperate father.

[00:16:31]Just days before becoming one of [music] Colorado's most infamous accused killers.

[00:16:36]>> If you're out there, just just come back.

[00:16:38]>> In a murder plot that's gripped the nation, police arrested Christopher Watts for killing his pregnant wife, Shanann, and young daughters, Celeste and Bella.

[00:16:47]>> This is absolutely the worst possible outcome. [music] >> But, this isn't a story about why he did it.

[00:16:55]This is about a decision that could cost him his life.

[00:16:58]>> [music] >> And the maximum acceptable sentence is death. Do you understand?

[00:17:04]>> And that's where one of the most controversial issues gets even more complicated. Many Coloradans are already calling for Watts' execution. They've even created this Facebook group. But, ultimately, the decision is up to one person, Weld County District Attorney Michael Rourke.

[00:17:18]>> Way too early to have that conversation.

[00:17:20]>> But it's a conversation that we can't ignore. An issue that challenges the very foundation of our morals.

[00:17:27]And this is where our 360 begins. A deeper look at capital punishment through the eyes of those who've been there. A mother and lawmaker whose son was gunned down. The prosecutor who decided the Aurora theater shooter should be put to death. A lawyer who says capital punishment is nothing less than murder. And a juror whose belief forever changed after one experience.

[00:17:50]Let's begin with him.

[00:17:52]>> I grew [music and singing] up believing that, you know, an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth kind of a deal. And >> Nate Becker >> So, I was in support of the death penalty.

[00:17:57]>> changed his mind on capital punishment after he served as a juror on a death penalty case in Douglas County.

[00:18:04]We'll get back to why in a minute. But let's shift our focus to the prosecutor.

[00:18:09]Someone else tasked with deciding whether someone lives or dies.

[00:18:13]>> It was probably the hardest professional decision that I've had to make.

[00:18:18]>> Arapahoe County District Attorney George Brauchler. He tried the most high-profile death penalty case in recent history.

[00:18:24]>> We the jury do not have a unanimous final sentencing verdict.

[00:18:28]>> get death. Do you think there was still justice?

[00:18:31]>> I think that there was justice from the standpoint that that's what our system produced.

[00:18:36]>> Ultimately, one juror saved the life of the shooter responsible for killing 12 innocent people inside this Aurora theater.

[00:18:43]>> We're not Texas. We're not Georgia.

[00:18:45]We're not Florida. We're the state of Colorado. We do this a bit differently and I think we do it the right way.

[00:18:51]>> He is one of the few DAs anywhere in the entire state of Colorado who regularly seeks the death penalty.

[00:18:56]>> Now to our lawyer's perspective. David Lane, one of the state's most respected defense attorneys, disagrees with Brauchler.

[00:19:03]>> I am unalterably completely 100% opposed to the death penalty in all cases for anyone.

[00:19:08]>> Lane thinks an eye for an eye should never be the answer.

[00:19:11]>> If you kill someone, we're going to kill you means that we are stooping to exactly the same level that he stooped to.

[00:19:20]And we're better than that.

[00:19:21]>> Which brings us back to Rockflour's perspective.

[00:19:23]>> The death penalty in Colorado is appropriate to distinguish what I will call regular murders from more aggravated heinous murders.

[00:19:32]>> Now let's go to that mother and lawmaker who supports the death penalty for an entirely different reason.

[00:19:38]>> It's very hard, but it's hard every day because every day I have a sense of emptiness.

[00:19:43]>> For Democratic State Senator Rhonda Fields, this is personal.

[00:19:47]>> He was my only son. I taught him how to tie his shoes.

[00:19:52]>> Javad Marshall Fields was murdered in 2005 along with his fiance Vivian Wolf.

[00:19:58]Both were about to start careers and life together in Virginia. Before they could start that life, Marshall Fields was set to testify about the night his friend was murdered.

[00:20:07]>> never call me mommy again. I will never see him married. I will never have grandchildren from him.

[00:20:14]All of that was taken away from me because someone decided to silence a witness.

[00:20:21]>> The men responsible for killing her son are two of Colorado's three inmates sitting on death row. The third is Nathan Dunlap, convicted of killing four employees at an Aurora Chuck E. Cheese in 1993.

[00:20:33]Governor John Hickenlooper granted Dunlap a temporary reprieve and left his fate up to the next governor. While Rhonda's fight for justice is still far from over.

[00:20:42]>> After 16 years, I've come to understand that you can't really debate or change someone's decision as it relates to who's for and who's against the death penalty.

[00:20:52]>> Let's bring back in juror Nate Becker.

[00:20:54]He's the exception to Rhonda's rule.

[00:20:56]>> Walked away angry. I walked away disappointed in our judicial system.

[00:21:00]>> His time on a death penalty jury redirected his moral compass from a supporter to now strongly opposed to capital punishment.

[00:21:08]>> like the death penalty is not justice, it's vengeance.

[00:21:12]>> Becker's trial came to an abrupt end when the judge let the defense present evidence sympathetic to the defendant.

[00:21:18]Evidence Becker says should have come to light long before he was asked to potentially put a man to death. Evidence so strong the prosecution took the death penalty off the table knowing it would impact jurors.

[00:21:31]>> It became very apparent to me that we're asking people to come to these conclusions and we're not providing them all the information. We're hiding facts, we're hiding information and asking them to do that.

[00:21:41]>> And what about the heavy burden that kind of decision leaves on jurors?

[00:21:44]>> Is that fair? Is it fair to ask another person to live with that for the rest of their life?

[00:21:50]>> So where do you stand on this debate?

[00:21:52]>> At the end of the day, uh people's opinions on this are irrelevant to the pursuit of justice.

[00:21:57]>> [music] >> For now, in the Watts' case.

[00:22:00]>> Ultimately, 100% of it to move forward sits on the shoulders of Michael Rourke and [music] he's the right person to make that decision.

[00:22:07]>> Cindy Watts says she believes her son's plea deal was coerced and he should withdraw his guilty plea.

[00:22:12]>> I love my son no matter what.

[00:22:15]No matter what and I want to fight for him and I don't want him to go down for something that he didn't do.

[00:22:20]>> Shanann's family released this statement saying in part, quote, he pled guilty to murdering his family because he is guilty. They went on to say the parents of Chris Watts gave an interview in which they attempted to defend their son. In doing so, they felt the need to make vicious, grotesque, and utterly false statements about Shanann. Their false statements, however hurtful and inaccurate, will never alter the truth about Shanann and will never alter the truth about the crimes committed by their son, Chris Watts. Shanann's memory and reputation deserves to be protected.

[00:22:50]High-profile defense attorney and legal expert Harvey Steinberg does not represent anyone in this case. He says rule 32 allows the withdrawal of a plea prior to sentencing if there is a fair and just reason, but he does not believe a judge would allow that in this case.

[00:23:03]>> Remember, the mother is not in a position to withdraw the plea.

[00:23:07]The mother can scream and yell and do everything she wants. Maybe it's appropriate, maybe it's not, but ultimately, it's his decision after sitting and talking to his lawyers.

[00:23:18]>> Watts is set to be sentenced in Weld County Court on Monday. He faces three consecutive life sentences in a deal that allowed him to avoid facing the death penalty. Deborah Takahara, Fox 31.

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[00:24:56]Keep getting interrupted.

[00:24:58]Fuck.

[00:25:01]Think I'd have a script.

[00:25:04]Do you think I got a script? I haven't got a script. I got bullet points, but I ain't got no script.

[00:25:11]Don't tell me you want to go for a walk now.

[00:25:14]Who wants to go for a walk now?

[00:25:17]I mean I haven't had dinner yet.

[00:25:20]I'm hungry now.

[00:25:23]Thirsty, yeah.

[00:25:27]I always start off with these little ideas. Oh, just do a little video. I'll do a little Chris Watts [music] video, and I'll do another video. And then by the time I look at the time, I've been sat here from half past 7:00 in the morning, and it's now 5:00 p.m. at night.

[00:25:39]Where does the time go?

[00:25:41]My life is not my own.

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