Jeremiyah Love Talks NIL at Notre Dame, USC and Recruitment

Added: 2026-06-02

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[00:02:05]Download the FanDuel app. Hey Le, let me tell you something, man. I was in the place to be last night. I was really sad. I was really sad because our rookie of the year went down with a hamstring pull in a second in Miraami went out, bro. Went out. My heart sank. Trying to beat out. He's trying to beat out a double play. My heart sank. I'm sitting there and I'm like, "OH NO."

[00:02:36]>> HOW DOES THAT happen in baseball? Your hamstring.

[00:02:40]>> Yeah. trying to out another place, trying to leg it out first. You know, he was safe at first, then I saw him reach for the back of his leg and I'm like, "Oh, you got to be kidding me."

[00:02:52]>> Dang.

[00:02:53]>> You got to be kidding me.

[00:02:54]>> But that should be fun for baseball though. You can You can play with a hamstring in baseball.

[00:02:59]>> Yeah, bro. But then, you know, we give up a home, one home run, two-run homer early. We're down two zip. We scrap out one run, but I'm frustrated because we left about six, seven men in in scoring position all night. We go to the bottom of the ninth down 2-1 and we scrape out a run, bro. We scrape off the run and we got the winning run at third base. Ground ball down the first baseline and Spencer Torson makes a great defensive play. Sends it to extra innings. The Tigers score a run in the top of the 10th and then we have a man on second. Don't advance him. The first two batters just a terrible job.

[00:03:43]But oh boy, oh boy. If the White Socks on fireworks night on 35th is Shields didn't walk it off with I'm amped now. I'm I this morning like Hey, >> is that more is that more exciting than like a uh a twominute ending of football or like a last shot or something? Like what that sound like?

[00:04:15]>> Walk off home run.

[00:04:17]>> Yeah, >> a walk-off home run is pretty special.

[00:04:22]I'mma keep it above.

[00:04:24]That walk-off home run is pretty special. That's a great That's a great question for the chat. What's the most exhilarating end to a sport sporting event? The most exhilarating is it a buzzer beater in basketball Leonard uh Toronto shot uh walk off >> or uh you know like Tio's catch in the back of the end zone with the 49ers type thing.

[00:04:59]H. But I think baseball's buildup is a little a little different though. It's like >> Yeah. That walk off home run is different, bro.

[00:05:07]>> Yeah. It's more movie like cuz it's like loaded baseball.

[00:05:10]>> You know, you know what makes it even better? You know, like Miguel Vargas, he hits the home and as soon as he hits it, the entire stadium, right? That's the thing about a walk-off home run.

[00:05:24]When it leaves the bat, everybody in the stadium knows. Oh, it's like Oh, it's out of here.

[00:05:31]>> Yeah. When somebody shoots a jump shot, it's like you're in suspense, >> right?

[00:05:36]>> Like your weight.

[00:05:38]>> When they hit that he hit that ball last night, it was like all hands went up.

[00:05:44]>> It was like It was like a preacher preaching a great message. All the hands in the congregation went up. Everybody went up. Everybody's like, "Yeah, this is it. This is it." Yo, and then I picked the home run trot ass to it because he man when I tell you he pimped it.

[00:06:03]>> Yo, he threw the bat. He turned to the Tigers dugout, said a few things. Oh man, >> just made it even more enjoyable, right?

[00:06:15]And it was fireworks night. Well, you know, if you've ever been if you ever been to a whitesiz game, they shoot off fireworks for every home run anyway, but it was fireworks night last night.

[00:06:29]So, yeah, man. That got me amped. I didn't left this morning like, "Hey, you want to do a show?" Like, I'm I'm still cloud.

[00:06:39]Let's get it. Let's get So today's show is special because I hit left and I was like, yo, we played some snippets. They finally dropped the full interview from the St. Brown brothers podcast with Armor St. Brown and Equinimia St. Brown of course uh NFL wide receiver along with EQ multiple teams and Alar wide rece I mean Bears legend >> as I digress >> he was receiver one he was receiver man Chase was receiver one at some point >> they just needed that's all they just needed Ben Johnson if Now that is true. If he was there with Ben Johnson, things might be different.

[00:07:31]I I'll give you that. However, and whoever asked me about Yes, I put the food at guarantee rate up against any other park >> really.

[00:07:45]>> It's not I I would say it's not even close. That's me. I was disappointed.

[00:07:50]>> I was DISAPPOINTED WITH DODGER STADIUM.

[00:07:52]I'm keep Yeah, I was disappointed.

[00:07:57]Petco in San Diego has >> some Padres, right?

[00:08:03]>> Yes.

[00:08:04]>> Yeah. I heard PNC up in Pittsburgh is pretty decent.

[00:08:10]But >> the Padresfield is mid. I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. Very mid. But um but no, getting back to top >> are good by the way.

[00:08:21]>> Really? You know what? Good.

[00:08:24]>> I I can see that. I can see that. And I also heard that's a great stadium to actually view a game.

[00:08:31]>> Yeah, because it's on the water.

[00:08:33]>> A great American. Yeah, I've heard that from several White Socks and Cubs fans that they go on the road. That's one of their favorite places to go to view a baseball.

[00:08:41]>> It's big, too. Yeah. It's a big big city.

[00:08:44]>> Yeah. Um, so getting back to the podcast, St. Brown Brothers podcast, they had Jeremiah Love on. We played a couple of clips. We were clowning Jeremiah Love about him not knowing NF current NFL players and Hall of Fame NFL players, you know, >> but we got a chance to watch the full interview and in watching a full interview, we felt like it was some things that we can discuss today.

[00:09:13]This is totally dedicated to Jeremiah Love talking Notre Dame podcast.

[00:09:19]If you have a GTD question or a super chat, put it in. We'll get to it uh ASAP.

[00:09:26]And uh I'm going to play these clips left and it's man, let me tell you, first thing that stands out, ladies and gentlemen, I apologize for any language that's used by Jeremiah Love in the clips. Okay. Uh Jeremiah Love, I told you that he was well manicured in the 2024 season when I saw how he dealt with the media.

[00:09:52]>> I was like, "This young man is well manicured. You can tell >> he's polished. You could tell he's polished."

[00:10:00]But now when he got around some dudes that he felt really comfortable with, you start to see like, okay, that's Jay Love from St. Louis. That's >> No. Yeah, he was definitely Yeah, you was on Yeah. You could tell he's he's out of Notre Dame right now. He ain't got the Notre Dame.

[00:10:18]>> Yes. Yes. He's no longer thinking about the Notre Dame brand and none of that.

[00:10:25]>> Say he got that 53 million. He ain't know what he was like, man, that's a lot of money.

[00:10:30]>> Yeah, >> he in a different category right now.

[00:10:34]>> Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So, look, let's get to it. Left, uh, he was he was asked about great podcast. It's like 20 minutes. It's really not that long, but um, yeah, you should check it out. I think it's an amazing um amazing podcast and I think Jeremiah Love did a really good job of kind of representing um >> the brand.

[00:11:02]>> Yeah. Even in some of the things he said, I think that's what stood out like yo this is a real to me it's easy to see how he is going to be in >> Yes. very easy. It's like because you see the authenticity and something else that stood out. Let me tell you something. I think it was very evident to me because he said it multiple times.

[00:11:32]He was like my running back coach.

[00:11:36]Multiple times.

[00:11:37]>> Yeah.

[00:11:38]>> Said Dull.

[00:11:40]Like I was like, okay. Like >> he said Dull.

[00:11:47]He did.

[00:11:48]>> So, >> he did. He did say that.

[00:11:52]I agree. I'm trying to look for these uh the clips. I'm sorry, man.

[00:12:00]There they go. All right. So, here is um him talking about Notre Dame. Now, this part of the conversation, uh, Armor Rah St. Let me set it up.

[00:12:19]Armor Rah St. Brown is basically trying to trash Notre Dame in South Bend, >> right?

[00:12:27]>> Like what's like what is in what is in not South Bend? Like there's nothing to do like >> and it's crazy one. It's your brother that's sitting right next to you went there too. So I, you know, >> kind of Yeah. Equinimius kind of stands up and says, "Yo, man, like what what was your most fun thing to do? What was the most fun thing to do for you when you were there at at Notre Dame?" And uh this is how the conversation went.

[00:12:58]>> And then you went to Notre Dame. But I want to know like what's your what was your favorite part about Notre Dame?

[00:13:02]Like did you have some fun experiences?

[00:13:03]Like Yeah. Like what is it to do in South Bend? Like for real. Besides play football, >> it's fun.

[00:13:10]>> What is What is fun about Notre Dame?

[00:13:11]>> It is fun.

[00:13:12]>> It's fun. It ain't [ __ ] to do for real.

[00:13:14]>> Yeah, it's fun, but it's a [ __ ] to do.

[00:13:19]>> I mean, >> hang out back, bro.

[00:13:21]>> You just left Notre Dame. Would you ever go back to Notre Dame besides for a football game?

[00:13:26]>> No.

[00:13:26]>> No. Right.

[00:13:27]>> No. Okay.

[00:13:30]>> I'm here like is 5 minutes away. I here right now. USC, bro.

[00:13:34]>> He's not going there. You coming back for LA, bro?

[00:13:36]>> Yeah. You're not going to >> It's a South Bend. Why? Like, >> yeah. Football games.

[00:13:41]>> Yeah. South Indiana, bro.

[00:13:42]>> It's not trash. My dad right here talking about the nerd's best trash, dog.

[00:13:48]>> South B. I give it to you. South ain't anything to do, bro. Like, St. Louis probably better than South Ben. St. Louis way better.

[00:13:53]>> St. Louis way better.

[00:13:54]>> St. Ben got Notre Dame, so that make that will make it better.

[00:13:58]>> It's Notre Dame. It's not even Southbend. Not make South Bend.

[00:14:00]>> Not his own city, too.

[00:14:02]>> No. Yeah, it is. We Yeah, it is.

[00:14:03]>> Yeah, it is actually. It is actually.

[00:14:05]>> Yeah.

[00:14:06]>> So, dude, I'm sorry. This this whole It was 20 minutes. This was a fire conversation. They were just real with it. Look, >> and the Notre Dame fans don't get upset and Jeremiah Love is like, "Yo, I mean, yes, if we're talking about the city and he told EQ, I mean, he told Ahmed Ra, bro, you're not going back to USC. You going back to LA."

[00:14:30]Yeah, that but that's you know it's too many things to do in LA. The SC game is just like if you if you want to take >> Yeah. I just want to just chill for a second. Let's pop over to the game. You know, South Ben Yeah. Okay. That's easy.

[00:14:46]During the season, football is the main thing. Okay, we get that. But South Ben got it got his things about it. You know, it's it's just interesting. It's all about who you have in your circle, in your friend group, you know. It's Chicago's not far right there. Right.

[00:15:03]So, there's many bit I just thought I just thought he was capping by saying he's never going back to a game. I'm like, "Okay, you'll go back to a game."

[00:15:12]Heck, he went to the spring game.

[00:15:15]>> He'll be back.

[00:15:16]>> No, he said he said he would go back. He No, he said he wouldn't go back unless it was board game.

[00:15:25]No, no. He wouldn't go back to South just like, "Oh, I'm just going back to South B for No, it's definitely going to be for a game." He says that now, but there's going to be so many different things he's going to be showing up for.

[00:15:38]Like, they gonna just They want him to speak or they got to do some event or he'll find a reason to get back to South Bend and you know, and why not? Shoot, you got hardware there. you you're definitely well remembered and respected there. It's and it's good, you know, especially when he's in the NFL and gets to like year three or four where he's like, "Man, it'd be nice to feel some love back at home."

[00:16:05]>> Well, I think he I think he's basically saying anything outside of Notre Dame related, I probably won't be going back to South.

[00:16:15]>> And I mean, how can anyone be upset about that?

[00:16:19]>> Yeah. Yeah. You spent your time there.

[00:16:21]You did your time there.

[00:16:22]>> When was the last time you've been back to South Bend, bro?

[00:16:25]>> It's been a minute.

[00:16:27]>> It was for a game, right?

[00:16:28]>> For football. Yeah, it's for football.

[00:16:30]>> Okay. Okay. Like like it's not It may be different because a lot of the Hulk era guys actually have homes in South Bend.

[00:16:41]>> Right.

[00:16:42]>> Right.

[00:16:42]>> Like Red Big O actually have >> spots.

[00:16:47]>> Yeah.

[00:16:49]But that's >> if it's not for football season, people at Notre Dame are doing stuff. You like you busy. You you got stuff you got to get done. It's not like it's the come visit and hang out and chill. You know, most people on routines and schedules when it's not football related.

[00:17:10]So catching somebody just hanging out is just rare. Which is why it's like, yeah, you go there, you spend your time, you do your time, get what you need to get out of there, but once you're done, it truly is you you got all you can get out of it.

[00:17:28]>> Unless you want to go back to the game and shopping and maybe a reunion or something, but >> you know what's dope though?

[00:17:36]>> I love the fact that they both Jeremiah and EQ are both like, "Yo, it's fun."

[00:17:41]>> It is fun. Yes. This the city might not be considered fun, but like Notre Dame >> Yes.

[00:17:49]>> is fun. Yes. I think it makes for a better brotherhood, too. Yeah. It's fun in that way, you know? It's fun in the way that like you're with your boys.

[00:18:02]It's a great environment.

[00:18:05]is is is so many different ways you can tell your story, but at the same time, everybody outside looking in makes it cooler to you when you're there because they just have no idea. You know what I mean? They just like there's nothing South or Noran could offer that I can see me enjoying it or you telling me about it. But that's the thing though, if you're there >> hearing that from somebody, you're like, "Oh, you just don't know." It's fun.

[00:18:36]Like for instance, the first day of snow, everybody runs out to the middle of the uh south quad or the middle of the campus and there's a huge snowball fight.

[00:18:49]First snow meaning like the first time it gets crazy, it's snowball fight.

[00:18:54]Middle of the night.

[00:18:56]That was fun.

[00:18:58]You know, is that a story that is that a story you're like carrying on and and comparing to other people's stories with at their schools? No. But that's a cool experience. I mean, just imagine you our first semester there, it's cold.

[00:19:13]Everybody, you know, woe is me. And then out of nowhere, I look out the window, it's like 150 people running to the, you know, that's cool.

[00:19:22]I'm in the middle of that thing. Okay, what we doing? Everybody throwing snow.

[00:19:25]It's it's a it's a cool experience. So stuff like that makes it fun. Now is it the club? Is it the you know whatever is you? No. But during my time we it was popping. Lil Wayne was coming through there. Drake was shouting out. Scott Diggins. It was it was a >> it was a time you know man Todd was gig everybody. I mean >> it's about who's who's making it uh uh who's there making it fun. We had Sky Diggins, man. Tai, we had the the men's basketball team when they were really good with Jiren and all them boys. At the same time, we was coming off a national championship. The girls basketball team was going back to backtoback years. It was it was lit during our time. You know, >> I can compare it to going to Florida.

[00:20:14]So, Florida, I'm thinking it's Urban Meyer, Joe King, Noah, Tim Tibo vibes. M >> you hear them story people was hanging off the street post and it was just ridiculous you know it was it was it was crazy but when I got there and we weren't good it was like what backwater town am I in this country no nothing nothing now that's nothing to do >> down there at UF if you ain't winning there is nothing what you want hang out some alligators it's hot as the Dickens is a super foresty area. Nothing out there but a hospital and the school.

[00:21:00]Now that's boring.

[00:21:02]But when you're winning at UFO, it's like Disneyland, you know.

[00:21:11]Oh man, I just think before we get to this next clip, bro, that you know, you have a place like that because look, Champagne is a little bit closer to Chicago. That No, no, I take that back.

[00:21:30]South Bend is actually closer to Chicago than Champagne.

[00:21:34]>> Yeah, I had to think about it. like an hour.

[00:21:39]>> Yeah.

[00:21:40]>> Okay. All right.

[00:21:40]>> Yeah. South Ben is like an hour away and Champagne is like an hour and a half from Chicago.

[00:21:48]But you know when you get that small town feels like you feel like you're in your own you feel like literally Notre Dame is its own city and you feel that.

[00:22:00]>> Yeah. They bought they bought enough to make it feel like yeah this is >> it is South but this is really Notre Dame land. Just like >> no different than Disney. You know, you Disney, it's a ecosystem. You forget you you're not in Orlando, you're in Disney Orlando. You know what I mean?

[00:22:17]>> Facts. Facts. Yeah, I agree with that.

[00:22:21]Lucky lucky podcast.

[00:22:22]>> The grass. It's funny. The grass and trees on the campus ain't ain't natural to the city. So, you ain't even gonna find the same grass.

[00:22:31]>> Yeah. You know what I mean? And trees.

[00:22:35]They literally made this a different place.

[00:22:38]>> So then the conversation goes to uh Notre Dame and Jeremiah Love explains like his NIL progression at Notre Dame.

[00:22:51]Check this out. Le I saw a video of you saying you um you got your dream car, your whole rookie deal is going to, you know, you already made enough money. Is that true? Like you're not spending any of your rookie money. Honestly, like you don't have to lie. You don't have to try to be cool. Like actually.

[00:23:07]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, I'll take care of my family. But me personally, bro, I got everything I could ever I could ever want. I maybe like I got car.

[00:23:15]I got a car. I got shoot video games.

[00:23:20]That's all I need, bro. I got a car to get me around and once I get me a little crib or whatever, I'm smooth. I don't need nothing else.

[00:23:26]>> Not nil.

[00:23:28]>> That's probably That was probably good money over there.

[00:23:30]>> No, it wasn't.

[00:23:31]>> No. No, not my my first year it wasn't.

[00:23:33]My third year.

[00:23:35]>> Yeah, >> it was good. I was >> not as much because you know we get people based off the strength of >> we do. We get people based off the character.

[00:23:42]>> They want to be there.

[00:23:43]>> They want to be there. It's Notre Dame.

[00:23:45]>> That's what I'm saying.

[00:23:46]>> Not many transfers that leave.

[00:23:47]>> But you guys are the best worst school in football right now.

[00:23:51]>> What do you like?

[00:23:52]>> We're not the best worst. Like you guys are the best worst.

[00:23:54]>> And what do you guys >> like that's so embarrassing. Like >> there was a times was was a powerhouse.

[00:24:00]>> You heard You want to go there? You want >> That's before you knew about that.

[00:24:03]>> Can you tell that you want to go there?

[00:24:04]>> That's before I knew about Notre Dame.

[00:24:05]>> You confess.

[00:24:06]>> That's before I knew about Notre Dame.

[00:24:07]>> That's before I knew Notre Dame.

[00:24:10]>> Once a car was out the picture.

[00:24:12]>> Exactly. Okay.

[00:24:17]>> Well, I think Jeremiah Love for one, he'll get older and realize how much he really has.

[00:24:24]Yeah. Video games in a car. Yeah, that's good. But you you ain't got just video game and a car money. You going to be realizing 53 million is is I could do something with that. So he'll learn he'll start walking in the locker room and you know other guys in the locker room been there done that going to be like hey Brooke >> what about you know this thing over here and showing him this thing over you know that's how it go. But the other thing is I do like how EQ mentioned, yeah, SC was great until I found out about Notre Dame.

[00:25:00]And that just shows you just the the the the whole Chrysler 300 is is is a Phantom till the Phantom show up.

[00:25:09]Yeah, that's what happens. You just the the the veil is the SC, the Texas, the Bama, the Jord. Those are the sexy names of of football, the LSU, right? But when you start diving deeper and seeing between the weeds, Notre Dame just becomes the favorite.

[00:25:30]If you really start breaking it down, he said two things. I liked SC before I knew of Notre Dame. And the second thing he said was is that people want to go there. See, he can't see SC can't say that because SC, you point to Bear Alexander. That's just a great example.

[00:25:50]>> They flashed some money. He came out there, saw what and all that and left within the same year.

[00:25:56]Did he want to go there because he wanted to be a Trojan or did he want to go there because of the the money, the opportunity? It's LA, right? You know, as soon as he got there, he's taking pictures of the crypto arena and the high-rise apartment, the chains, the NIL money. Got him the chains, got in a bear chain, look like a bear.

[00:26:16]But when you talk about Notre Dame, all those guys say the same thing. They wanted to go there. Meaning that they saw beyond the chains and the whips and the video games.

[00:26:28]And he was honest. He said the money wasn't good at first, but how much more worth it is it by his story by saying the money wasn't great.

[00:26:37]I wanted to go there, but by year three it was great and by year four it's even better.

[00:26:45]Now some other guys on the team, they've been using that NIL pretty well. I mean, they've been getting uh uh fly me fly.

[00:26:55]They figuring it out.

[00:26:57]But I just think it just shows that yeah, with all things included in in college football that you could want to chase, when it comes to Notre Dame, guys are choosing it because of they want to beat it.

[00:27:12]And they're telling you the money not great. So think about that. SC can't go around here talking about SC don't pay great, but I but they still comp competitive in the recruitment.

[00:27:23]>> Yeah. I guess if you call that the best worst, I guess that's we'll take that because who else can go around here and say, "Yeah, we don't pay the greatest.

[00:27:31]We We may not win all these money deals, but we're still top three in recruiting.

[00:27:36]We're still top three and in and less transfers leaving. We're still top three in in playoff and ranking contention.

[00:27:44]And it ain't a and it ain't out money thing." And a lot of top teams can't say that, especially USC. USC can't talk about nothing if it's not attached to a dollar amount.

[00:27:56]They sell winning. They not selling winning. So how are they getting all these number one players and top players? They selling LA.

[00:28:05]>> YOU YOU CAN'T SELL SOUTH Bend to kids.

[00:28:07]You got to sell Notre Dame. You got you got to sell some things. LA EASY.

[00:28:16]THEY THEY THEY be bringing kids on official visits THAT DON'T EVEN GET TO THE campus at the zoo. They talking to the Lakers.

[00:28:24]They hanging out at downtown. They ain't even GO TO THE CLASSES. THEY DON'T EVEN TAKE. SO, IT'S LIKE, come on, man. SC, you got to go talk to administrators. Uh you got to go to St. Liam's. You got to talk to Marcus Freeman, his wife. Then you got to go to across the street to Eddie Street. You you you got to get sold on the package. Chad out there saying, "Hey, let's go hang out with some celebrities in Hollywood. Uh, take it to the beach for lunch and then we head over." Like, HE AIN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOL. THEY OUT THERE JUST TAKING FREE RIDES AROUND LA.

[00:28:57]SO, >> not free rides.

[00:28:59]>> Free rides. Oh, they coming out there getting fly on Mailroads, then hanging out at Santa Monica Pier, then jumping down to Nou for dinner, and then hanging out with at the Lakers game. Not one time did they talk about anything SC stadium ain't on campus. I mean what I mean stuck in traffic half the time. So you you really ain't got to see much. You just going point to point because you in traffic half the day.

[00:29:30]Oh man. As look man.

[00:29:34]It is amazing to me the jewel and Marcus Freeman is doing an incredible job really using this point that EQ and Jeremiah Love mentioned like Notre Dame gets people that want to be at Notre Dame. Like they want Notre Dame. That's why they're there. They're they want Notre Dame. And like you said, left, wanting Notre Dame comes with a lot. It's not just football.

[00:30:06]It's not just football, right? That's why, you know, when you said, yo, Notre Dame is not easy, but Notre Dame is an easy decision to make. Like, it's easy to choose Notre Dame. They have everything. Everything you need.

[00:30:24]Everything is right there within that community.

[00:30:27]It's a city within itself.

[00:30:30]The brotherhood is bar none the best and then what it offers after football is the best. Like you have that. It's really an easy choice. It really is.

[00:30:48]So when you make it, you make it because that's what you want to do. It's really an easy choice. Now once you make the choice that path that you have to walk Yeah. Yeah. They gonna make you walk it.

[00:31:01]Now >> you can't half step a Notre Dame walk.

[00:31:06]You're just not going you're not gonna >> either not gonna make it or you're not gonna half step it. It's it's >> you can half step some of these other schools.

[00:31:14]>> I mean you hear them. You hear them.

[00:31:16]Milin Graham talked about half stepping.

[00:31:19]Hart from Oklahoma State was half stepping for four years.

[00:31:22]>> Yeah. He told you I was half seven years. I got here in six months and didn't even know that some of this stuff was possible.

[00:31:32]So, >> man, >> it's not a hard choice.

[00:31:36]>> No, >> they just don't know, you know. And Marcus Freeman has done the the the great crossover of of educating people about Notre Dame without having to sit in their living rooms.

[00:31:48]>> Yeah.

[00:31:49]>> They look at Esquire and be like, "That's a Notre Dame head coach." They looking at the commercials with Shane Gillis and and all the the you on Wall Street and Good Morning America. They like that's why Notre Dame's cool cuz that's what you can do.

[00:32:03]>> Yeah. We ain't got Sam Hartin a Macy's contract for modeling after 6 months just cuz he ran out in senior day the last one. He didn't got a Macy's contract and a backup quarterback job in Washington. That's a great deal. He wasn't getting that at Wake Forest.

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[00:33:08]Now, we knew we knew it. It had not really been discussed at length, but we knew and we could tell that there was a disdain that Jeremiah Love had for USC.

[00:33:24]You could just tell cuz he got injured. He was killing USC early in 2024 and then he gets injured in that game and Notre Dame eventually wins by two touchdowns. But it is amazing how disrespectful he was to USC players in last season games. The trash he talked during the game and then how he disrespected with his antics in the end zone at the end of the game. You knew it had to be something different, right? Because for the most part, Jay Love keeps it real chill on the football field, unless you say something crazy to him.

[00:34:16]But we get just a little bit of a peak into why he has disdain for USC on this podcast. Check this out.

[00:34:31]Pretty good stuff.

[00:34:32]>> They recruit you?

[00:34:33]>> They did. Yeah, bro. I ain't going to lie. I was going to go to USC. They didn't want me though.

[00:34:38]>> They went back who they who they uh who they went before you. Like I don't know.

[00:34:44]I don't even know who the guy was, bro.

[00:34:46]Like I went deep into the recruiting and all that stuff. I just [ __ ] School said they like me. All right. Let me go come on a visit. See what he's talking about.

[00:34:51]>> So SC would have been tough like heavy on you. You probably would have I probably would have went to SC.

[00:34:56]>> But that's before I found out about Notre Dame.

[00:34:58]>> Yeah. No, but >> I didn't find out about Notre Dame.

[00:35:00]Yeah, I found out, bro, Notre Dame off was probably one of the last schools to offer him because they didn't have a running back coach at the time. My running back coach got hired and then they reached out to me and that's how, you know, everything went into place.

[00:35:13]But I ain't going to lie, I was going to go to I was going to go to SEC.

[00:35:15]>> He was too.

[00:35:16]>> So So So from what I'm hearing is >> he's saying he transferred from USC to Georgia. He's saying they weren't serious.

[00:35:27]>> So ladies and gentlemen, you heard it correctly. USC recruited him and instead he said, "Man, Notre Dame was one of the last schools to basically give me an offer because they didn't have a running back coach at the time." Marcus Freeman was looking for a running back coach. He lands Dan McCulliff. Dan McCulliff, if you remember, when Dan McCulliff comes in, Notre Dame has a running back in the class.

[00:35:58]conversation with Marcus Freeman.

[00:36:02]Eventually, there's a mutual parting of the ways because Da Mauliff is like, "We need to go get this kid Jeremiah Love." That's why this this is why this is so important and this is why Da Mulliff to this day means that much to Jeremiah Love.

[00:36:20]>> So, you have to remember this. This is the backdrop. So, remember, >> don't let that picture fool you. Now, don't let the picture of the four horsemen running backs at the combine.

[00:36:30]You know that's >> Yeah. Yeah. Let me play this clip again because Jeremiah Love says something real slick. First of all, he says USC recruited me. He says I would have gone to USC, but they wanted somebody else in front of me. Let me let me play.

[00:36:49]>> Did USC recruit you?

[00:36:50]>> They did. Yeah, bro. I ain't going to lie. I was going to go to USC. They didn't want me though.

[00:36:55]>> They weren't who they who they uh >> who they were before you. Like >> I don't know. I don't even know who the guy was, bro. Like I wouldn't >> that guy. That guy. Wait a minute. That guy, his name is Quinton Joiner. This running back named Quinton Joiner is who USC wanted instead of Jeremiah Love.

[00:37:16]Jeremiah Love said, "I was ready to go to USC, but they didn't want me."

[00:37:23]That sounds crazy. That right there sounds crazy. And I know hindsight is always 4020.

[00:37:32]>> Right.

[00:37:33]>> Right.

[00:37:34]>> But bro, Quinton Joiner, let me let me pull up Quint Joiner's college football stats because whoever whoever >> whoever made that eval >> deserves to be banned from college football.

[00:37:50]>> Well, they're not there now. So, you know, >> Quinn Joiner is currently at Texas Tech if I'm not mistaken.

[00:37:59]>> He ain't even at the school.

[00:38:01]>> My thought. No, he's not at USC.

[00:38:03]>> Ain't even at school.

[00:38:04]>> Transfer.

[00:38:08]>> His last year there in 2024.

[00:38:12]>> They had that Lou Holtz talk with him.

[00:38:14]Son, it's not your fault. We just need to find better.

[00:38:18]He had a decent uh he had a decent year in 24. He ran for 478 yards.

[00:38:24]>> Did he run for nine yards a carry average?

[00:38:27]>> No, he did not. He ran for 7.6 though.

[00:38:30]>> Did he Did he Did he have an average of 20 what? 22 and a half yards on touchdown runs.

[00:38:35]>> On touchdowns? No, he did not.

[00:38:38]>> Did not. Okay.

[00:38:39]>> No, he did not.

[00:38:40]>> I guess if I was Jeremiah Love, I wouldn't know either who they want.

[00:38:45]I'll be like, >> "Yes, he's currently a running back for Texas Tech."

[00:38:48]>> I love how he said it to. He said, "I don't even know."

[00:38:53]>> Yeah.

[00:38:54]>> Whoever that guy was, man.

[00:38:57]Yeah. This man said, "Yeah, I wanted to commit to uh USC, but it was the way he said it that this thing. They didn't want me." That right there, ladies and gentlemen, is the root. That is the root of his hate >> for USC. That right there. They didn't want me. They didn't want And that was a mistake. They didn't want me. Yeah.

[00:39:18]>> Did USC recruit you?

[00:39:19]>> They did. Yeah, bro. I ain't gonna lie.

[00:39:21]I was going to go to USC. They didn't want me though.

[00:39:23]>> They who they who they uh >> who they want before you. Like >> you are A USD DUDE. YOU SHOULD KNOW WHO THEY WANTED before him. Like you should know the roster. And and it sounds crazier because he said he was going. So something must have took place where they told him like, "Hey, we we don't want you to commit yet. We want another guy." You know, >> did you see Armrage's face when he said that? They didn't want me.

[00:39:53]>> Look at him. Look at him laugh. He's like, "What?

[00:39:55]>> Can't believe it."

[00:39:59]>> I don't even know who the guy was, bro.

[00:40:00]Like I wasn't deep into the recruiting all that stuff. I just [ __ ] school said they like me. All right, let me go come on a visit. See what he's talking about.

[00:40:06]SC would have been tough like heavy on you. You probably would have I probably would have went to SC >> but that's before I found out about Notre Dame.

[00:40:13]>> Yeah. No, but I didn't find out about Notre Dame.

[00:40:15]>> I found out Bro, Notre Dame offering was probably one of the last schools to offer him >> because they didn't have a running back coach at the time. My running back coach got hired and then they reached out to me >> and that's how you know everything went into place. But I ain't going to lie, I was going to go to I was going to go to SC.

[00:40:30]>> He was too. So, so, so, so, so from what I'm hearing is >> he's saying he transferred from USC to Georgia. He's saying they weren't serious.

[00:40:41]>> That last part, did you hear what EQ said? He said Zachariah Branch transferred from USC because he said they're not serious. And if you make an eval to take Quint Joiner over Jeremiah Love, I can't take you serious.

[00:40:57]I can't.

[00:40:59]And it's even crazier because think about how weak the recruiting efforts had to have been >> and he was the Oh, wait a minute.

[00:41:06]>> Not the only running back. I'm sorry.

[00:41:09]Look, go ahead.

[00:41:11]>> Oh, yeah. I'm Yeah, I agree. I'm just saying that for SC to have such a strong commitment from this kid and for Notre Dame to come in at the end. They It wasn't like Notre Dame was recruiting the whole time. We came in at the end with no coach.

[00:41:25]>> Easy recruitment bag.

[00:41:29]So SC's recruiting efforts weren't great. You don't see too many Notre Dame guys that's been committed over a period of time and then just commit last minute to a school out of nowhere. That don't happen too often. And when it did, Payton Bowen.

[00:41:45]It was hard to criticize.

[00:41:47]>> Yeah.

[00:41:48]>> It it almost ain't cool to commit and then decommit from Notre Dame. You can do it at SC though because that's just business.

[00:42:00]Man, look, the other running back in the class, Amarian Peterson out of Texas.

[00:42:05]Both of these running backs that they took over Jay Love from the state of Texas. Left, that fuels your uh hate.

[00:42:11]That fuels your hate. Go ahead. Go ahead.

[00:42:14]>> They should have listened to the podcast.

[00:42:16]>> Go ahead, Le. I do. the podcast, >> the recruiting efforts would have been, "Hey, y'all doing way too much and reaching way too far thinking all this talent out of Texas is gonna produce." I could have told you they were going to go back home. One of them was and and you got the wrong Peterson. It wasn't Adrian. You got you got the the cousin, the other Peterson, not as good. See, that's you know, >> Texas. And I I'm not saying nothing, but hey, Jaden Great House is from Texas.

[00:42:47]That's all I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

[00:42:49]>> What does that mean? I'm just I'm just, you know, Texas players outside of Texas just have a hard time. I don't know what it is.

[00:42:57]>> No. What does that mean, bro?

[00:42:59]>> Exactly. What does it mean? All these correlations is causation to think that how you lose both running backs from Texas cuz they left the state.

[00:43:12]It's a big state down there. It's like his own world. It's like you take the fish out the pond and put him in a different pond, it's a different reaction. That's why I'm saying Colin Simmons is great, but Trayori has the talent to I'm just saying.

[00:43:30]left your your your angst for Texas prep football is is >> Hey, I I just keep bringing up examples.

[00:43:39]That's all, >> man. Shout out to Katie Finley. Shout out to Leonard Moore, a Texas kid.

[00:43:45]>> Yep. Yep. That's right.

[00:43:46]>> That's pretty good. Outside the state of Texas.

[00:43:50]>> Shout out to Jake Greyhouse.

[00:43:57]>> We love our guys. We love our >> Yeah, man. Quint Joiner and Amarian Peterson, which to Le's point, both transferred back to schools in Texas from USC.

[00:44:12]>> I'm just saying, man, that's >> those are the two running backs that they wanted over Jeremiah Love.

[00:44:19]>> That's what they do, man.

[00:44:22]>> Just saying. Just saying. That's pretty incredible. So the hate doesn't stop there.

[00:44:30]The hate doesn't stop there. Okay.

[00:44:35]He went on to just become totally disrespectful in the face of Amari Brown when he talked about USC football.

[00:44:43]Yeah. Jeremiah Love, he let it all out, left. This is what he had to say.

[00:44:50]>> Serious about you. So tell me USC is not serious about football. That's what I'm hearing from the last two guys. Would you say that? So, bro, against LA, bro.

[00:44:56]>> Bro, not did you guys you guys did you guys make playoffs last year?

[00:44:58]>> No.

[00:44:59]>> Why not?

[00:45:00]>> Because we lost our first two games and that was on us 100%.

[00:45:03]>> Okay. So, >> but before that they made playoffs.

[00:45:05]>> I just remember there was chatter about Notre Dame should be in the playoffs or the Notre Dame fans had like >> we we you could you could come up with an argument that we should have been in, but at the end of the day, we put ourselves in that position and that's why we didn't.

[00:45:17]>> And now they don't want to play SC no more.

[00:45:18]>> You guys don't want digress. I digress.

[00:45:20]I ain't going to lie to you, bro. SC, they don't want to play ball no more, bro. Them boys don't be coming to compete when they play games. They don't play no more.

[00:45:28]>> You guys lay down tuck tail.

[00:45:29]>> They lay down, bro. The last two years that I'm playing them, bro, they ain't they ain't been enough for a child.

[00:45:35]>> And and both years we played them ran all over. You guys barely won last year.

[00:45:40]Wasn't it raining?

[00:45:41]>> Rain [ __ ] Like SC was had it too. I was watching it.

[00:45:44]>> It was all you guys, bro. He had a kickoff return. I think one of your running backs was a price had a long return. That kickoff return changed the momentum. Okay, still >> SC was about to win, bro.

[00:45:54]>> It did about to SC would have been different.

[00:45:57]>> I ain't going to lie. Y'all weren't going to win. You guys were a little nervous.

[00:46:00]>> I was watching that game. You guys, they were running two safety the whole game.

[00:46:03]I'm like, bro, what are you guys not respecting the run game? That's why I went for 220.

[00:46:08]>> Exactly. I went for 220. UC needs to figure some [ __ ] out and the other dude killing us. I'm like, why are we in too high? Whatever.

[00:46:14]>> Yeah, I digress.

[00:46:19]Look man, they can't accuse him of laying down too high. They didn't come two play at all.

[00:46:27]You come in too high versus Jadarian and the dope walker winner.

[00:46:32]>> It's unserious.

[00:46:34]>> Unserious.

[00:46:35]Un trying to play seven on seven in the rain. Double passes, receiver passes in the rain on third and short. Unserious.

[00:46:45]unserious.

[00:46:46]>> Yeah.

[00:46:47]>> Yeah.

[00:46:48]>> How like Jeremiah Love couldn't believe it. He's like, "Y'all too high all game." Even Ra who wasn't at the game watching on TV was like, "Why are we in too high against the two best running backs that our two first rounders in the country?"

[00:47:02]>> Yeah.

[00:47:03]>> Unless it's like And then and then to say we don't want to play y'all. COME ON. HOW Y'ALL COME IN A RAIN game playing two high safety against two first round running backs all game?

[00:47:17]Never changed.

[00:47:20]And now we don't want to play you guys.

[00:47:22]Come on, bro. If anything, we don't want to play y'all cuz y'all not serious.

[00:47:30]At CatJ Love, let it be known like, "Hey, man. Y'all always, man, y'all lay down."

[00:47:37]And it's great that he knows the exact stats in that game. I had 220.

[00:47:40]>> Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.

[00:47:43]>> Should have dropped the touchdown on >> I dropped 220 on y'all.

[00:47:48]>> Easy work.

[00:47:49]Easy work. If I didn't have to share carries, it would have been 275.

[00:47:54]>> Yeah, it would have been something crazy.

[00:47:57]>> Like it. You know what's so amazing, man? Watching this clip.

[00:48:03]It makes me think back to like when the news broke that the series was no longer going to be moving forward.

[00:48:11]And it made me think about when Cal Hamilton and the guys had the podcast and Cam Hart said, "Dude, we USC, we don't even take them serious anymore."

[00:48:23]>> I mean, the attitude out there is like they don't even take themselves serious.

[00:48:27]It's Hollywood football, man. It's like within the program >> USC for Notre Dame players is not even like that game anymore.

[00:48:37]>> It's not.

[00:48:38]>> It's not.

[00:48:40]>> They start making a game about weather.

[00:48:42]Oh, it's cold and we got to play in September and oh >> said it was raining.

[00:48:48]>> What? Come on, man. That's what we dealing with. Non-serious football teams. But that you can tell they're not serious because instead of doing business, they run to the media.

[00:49:00]They run to the media. Oh, Notre Dame is afraid cuz they don't want to play in September.

[00:49:08]Y'all media team. Y'all not a football team.

[00:49:12]Y not a strategic trenches ready to take it around the world.

[00:49:18]Best show on turf type of team.

[00:49:22]I'm not surprised y'all have a bunch of talented receivers cuz it's a diva school.

[00:49:32]Of course, y'all don't have no real trench players going first round nowhere. Y'all got the the the the goodlooking outside receivers that ain't that physical, you know? They flashy, not a lot of grit to it, but it's it's seven on seven football. That's why y'all receivers are good. You don't got no Well, clearly making the mistake of not picking up Jeremiah Love seem to be crucial.

[00:50:01]So, I don't know, man. I think uh the narrative around SC as soft and uncompetitive and just not up to the challenge.

[00:50:14]That's reality.

[00:50:16]what they say in the media. Well, Jeremiah loves telling you in game, y'all not serious.

[00:50:24]Recruiting, y'all wasn't serious.

[00:50:28]And now after he does what he does to y'all team, all you can sit there and look like EQ.

[00:50:37]Look at EQ just smirking. He's like, man, SC just making mistakes left and right. SC just making mistakes left and right. these these guys here.

[00:50:48]>> Yeah, man. Yeah, it's it's actually pretty hilarious, bro. This is I'm telling you, if you guys missed it, once again, we're talking about Jeremiah Love's interview with the St. Brown Brothers podcast. Uh I think this was at the NFL rookie symposium, um where they were talking to these guys. They talked to Zachariah Branch.

[00:51:11]Um they also talked to um who actually was part of that 23 class that Jeremiah Love was supposed to be part of and ended up transferring to Georgia.

[00:51:25]So, um, let me tell you something, man. USC fans, clamor, and Notre Dame fans can kind of relate to this, you know, to be in that they're in their Bob Davyy era. That makes sense.

[00:51:45]USC is in their Bob Davyy, Charlie Weiss era, clamoring for the days of Pete Carol.

[00:51:54]the same way Notre Dame fans clamored for the days of Lu Holtz for a long time until you know you know you give credit to whom credit is due until Brian Kelly showed up.

[00:52:08]When Brian Kelly showed up, you know, things started to definitely trend in the right direction and then things have just taken off with Marcus Freeman.

[00:52:22]>> Consistent. Kelly brought consistency, stability, >> consistency. Absolutely.

[00:52:28]>> And that stability was foundation to elevate how Marcus Freeman was able to elevate the program from a good stable position. It wasn't like it was desolate and we didn't have nobody and we was under sanctions like the Penn State Cyclones and all of that.

[00:52:46]>> Yeah. Yeah. So, I kind of I'm I'm kind of empathetic to USC fans because I know what it is to feel like there's light at the end of the tunnel only to have the chair pulled up from under you during that Bob Davyy, Tyrone Willingham, uh the old George Orasco, Charlie Weiss, all of that, bro. It it was just honestly speaking it was just embarrassing.

[00:53:19]It was just embarrassing and just you just clamorred for Lou Holtz and then Lou Holtz is at South Carolina like winning nine games and winning conference championships. It's like what it was it was just painful man. And losing out on Urban Meyer and then watch him at Florida and then to watch him at Ohio State. It was just painful to watch. But like you said, Brian Kelly brought consistency and then Marcus Freeman now has just taken everything to a different stratosphere.

[00:53:54]Only thing left to do is to win a national championship. And I feel like USC is going through Yeah. USC going through the same thing.

[00:54:04]Look, Steve Sarkeesian Clay Helton now Lincoln Riley. like, dude, they're going through those coaches that Nah, that's not it. That's just not it. And I kind of I'm kind of empathetic to the fans, not to the anything else. the fans, those that are decent human beings, not the jerks that try to sit up there and talk about what Notre Dame isn't, as if they've done anything in the last decade other than get spanked by Notre Dame.

[00:54:43]That's it. They had one good year with Caleb and then we turned around and spanked Caleb the very next year.

[00:54:50]>> Spanked them bad, too.

[00:54:52]>> Spanked them.

[00:54:54]Spanked them. Last but not least, uh Jayla talking about the NFL, the Cardinals, and whether or not he's going to go after NFL Rookie of the Year.

[00:55:08]>> Check it out.

[00:55:11]>> You drive to Arizona. You had rookie mini camp.

[00:55:13]>> How was that? It was great. The acclimated is hot as hell, but uh the coaches are great, you know. Uh Carson, you know, other rookies are great. Like great culture over there. Um, but I heard they turned it around where they turning around cuz now even more. Um, man, mini camp went great on the field what I had to do. You got a lot of Is Connor there?

[00:55:40]>> Yeah. Yeah, he's still there.

[00:55:41]>> You Conor and out here, right?

[00:55:43]>> Yeah.

[00:55:44]>> Y'all got a stack running back room.

[00:55:45]>> It's a lot of us. Um, it's about what?

[00:55:47]Six of us.

[00:55:48]>> Sheesh. Yeah. So, >> yeah. Pretty deep. Everybody cool though. Yeah, I was thinking coming into the league [ __ ] be um what like a little little like selfish or standoffish or like a little bit I don't know just just different than what I'm used to. But coming into that room, them guys are great people. I actually think it's the opposite. I think it's young guys coming in that think they're cooler than the older dudes. Like we try to show love to all the young guys always, I feel like. But it's the younger with the NL money now. They come, they got the Goryard backpacks. I'm like damn.

[00:56:20]like you got more money than the dudes that got drafted in the seventh round three years ago. Like it's crazy nowadays.

[00:56:25]>> I can see that for sure. That's cuz young guys nowadays they just >> me I earn my [ __ ] >> I came to college well my first year I probably made about $10,000. Second year maybe a hundred. Third year I earned all the [ __ ] I got. So a lot of lot of [ __ ] in in your era now coming coming out coming out of high school making millions of dollars. I ain't do that [ __ ] I earn my [ __ ] So I see what you're saying. [ __ ] do be like that though. Are you going to go for offensive rookie of the year? Hell yeah.

[00:56:51]I'mma whatever I got to do, bro, to to to make to build the trust up on the team, get a guy to trust me so I can go out there and be myself, bro. And [ __ ] when August here, [ __ ] I'mma do what I got to do, bro. But that's the plan, though. That's that's the goal. That's the plan. But [ __ ] that's going to take a week bye basis, bro. Is you playing the hardest schedule down? One of the hardest schedules.

[00:57:14]You got make it happen, though. Do you know who's in the NFC West? Do you know who's in your division? So, no, the Seahawks, right? Yeah. Seahawks, ners, uh, Rams. There you go.

[00:57:25]>> No, that a left. At least he knows who's in his division. He might not know the players in the NFL, but he knows >> two of the uh indie running backs.

[00:57:40]>> Running back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's true.

[00:57:42]>> I can, you know, that's a half a credit.

[00:57:45]But it is funny. Now it's the levels of, you know, he's speaking like an old player. When I came in, it was only 10 bands.

[00:57:54]Second year I made a 100 and then third year he didn't say the number because he knew it was crazy.

[00:57:59]>> The number was crazy.

[00:58:01]>> Crazy that third year.

[00:58:04]>> That's why he keeps saying I earned it because he went from 10 to uh uh M&M's, you know. So >> I get it. But that goes back to the the game is just changing so fast. He was only in school four years and it went from 10 coming in. Now if Jeremiah Love was coming in now, he probably start at a 100,000.

[00:58:24]>> Yeah.

[00:58:29]>> It's all about market, you know.

[00:58:31]>> Hey bro, I'll let you know this. That 10,000 sounds crazy right now.

[00:58:39]>> Kids are getting out on a visit.

[00:58:41]How did you >> man? Jeremiah Love, ladies and gentlemen, said he got 10K his first year in Notre Dame. 10K.

[00:58:52]Then it went up to 100K.

[00:58:55]So when he, according to you, left when he was truly still the best running back in the country, even though Ashton Genty got all the love and all the carries.

[00:59:11]He was making 100k.

[00:59:16]There were freshman last year making 100k. 75 to 100k.

[00:59:23]>> 100k coming in. H >> coming in.

[00:59:26]>> Not even playing. That's >> facts.

[00:59:31]>> 75 to 100. And that's >> so if you going back to our reclassifying comments that you made yesterday, it's easy. I know I'm walking in making 100K and I don't have to be in a high school classroom and I can basically be in my playbook and start college.

[00:59:58]Yeah, I probably I would >> I would reclassify too, dude.

[01:00:07]>> 100,000 to practice and go to school and then you get an extra year. So you got four years, a 100,000 up, mess around, start the next year. Now you a million up >> with all the incentives and endorsements and blah blah blah blah blah. So by your third year, you probably racked up. If you're a quarterback, you easily by your third year with two years to go, you're at sitting around four, five million.

[01:00:35]Sitting around it. And that's starting your second year.

[01:00:39]So you sitting around four, five million, red shirt, sophomore year, college on a on a top five team.

[01:00:50]Uh, I'm staying in school as long as you can.

[01:00:58]I mean, cuz cuz if you keep winning, it's not anything going bad on your record. You just making more money. So, by the time you hit the NFL after four years, shoot. Yeah. Yeah, you walking in the locker room like Aman Rod said, you paid 10 times over a seventh round guy in his fourth year, you know.

[01:01:24]Oh man, let me go over the FanDuel, man.

[01:01:30]Jeremiah Love is the odds on favorite at plus 430 over at FanDuel to win the offensive rookie of the year.

[01:01:40]Jadarian Price is fourth at plus 850.

[01:01:46]No, he's fifth. I'm sorry, he's fifth at plus 850. Jeremiah Love shares that top spot with quarterback Fernando Mendoza.

[01:01:56]Uh Jordan Tyson is at plus 650. Carell Tate is at plus 650. Jadarian Price is at plus 850. And Malachi Mai Lemon is at plus,500.

[01:02:09]for offensive NFL offensive rookie of the year. Let me tell you something, man. Jadarian Price, Jadarian Price is great value, bro.

[01:02:21]>> Absolutely.

[01:02:22]>> And that offense in Seattle, it's a great fit for a pick, great person for the fit for the team. And he's going to be getting the ball a lot.

[01:02:36]It's a better fit than Jeremiah Love, you know. Yeah. Yeah. We predicted >> going to the Seattle Se I mean, I'm talking about as soon as Walker hit the wire, >> I'm like, "Oh, going there." I mean, it just it's like I don't know why it made so much sense. It just >> sometimes it's meant to happen. Like Jaylen Smith going to the Cowboys was all I always knew it was going to happen.

[01:03:05]>> Yeah. He just looked like a Cowboys linebacker. It was just it was destined.

[01:03:09]It was nothing. Same with the Ohio State linebacker. Now, Sony Styles, he looks like a Washington Redskins line. I mean, he just looks like >> Yeah.

[01:03:20]>> I don't know. Mendoza look like an Oakland Raiders quarterback. He just I mean, Vegas Raiders.

[01:03:25]>> He got a little Jeff Plunket face. Yeah, >> got the Tom Brady characteristics, you know, OCD. You It just look like you fit there. Like I don't, you know, I can't see you nowhere else. Maybe they're in Minnesota, you know. Man, look, at the end of the day, this interview is a great marketing recruiting tool for Notre Dame. It really is. Like you choose Notre Dame because you want to be there. You go to Notre Dame, you going to earn your money. You'll get your money, but you'll have to earn it.

[01:04:08]And last but not least, don't go to an unserious school like USC.

[01:04:15]That's it. Or you end up like state property when they tell you get down or lay down.

[01:04:23]either get down or get laid down.

[01:04:26]>> There I go.

[01:04:27]>> It's one or the other. Lucky podcast.

[01:04:29]Before we get out of here, uh the Elite 11 final as we talked about and I talked that talk because there's three Chicago kids out there >> that made it to the elite. Hey man, sometimes you know it takes time. You can't just take every You can't >> You always talk about being patient when you cook. You talk about that all the time.

[01:04:53]You can't rush good things. You can't rush good food.

[01:04:57]And so quarterbacks in Chicago, we can't rush them. You know, they're just now being served because they've been taking time to be cooked.

[01:05:08]>> That's right. I like that. Yeah. So, I just, you know, I just want to show >> this isn't fast food is what you're saying. This is going to be they bearing. This ain't fast food. This ain't McDonald's. This is a nice Blackberry Der.

[01:05:23]>> Got it.

[01:05:24]>> Absolutely.

[01:05:25]And uh I just want to show that uh after one day after one day I want to show you something. Le Who was that at the top?

[01:05:35]Who was that at the top right there? Who is that? Who is that?

[01:05:38]>> Says MVP.

[01:05:39]>> Who is that?

[01:05:40]>> Who? It says MVP. Game day one. What's the name?

[01:05:44]>> Trey Taylor. That's what it says.

[01:05:47]>> Where is he from? 79th 79th or 79th Street Southside.

[01:05:54]>> Wait a minute. Who's in third place? Who is that another Chicago kid in third place?

[01:06:00]>> That Oh, okay.

[01:06:02]>> Is that Is that another Chicago kid in third place? I'm just saying. I'm just saying. All I'm saying is when we come when we show up, we show out. Now, when we when we when we show up, we show out.

[01:06:16]Now, we might not get there. It might be some years you might not see not one kid from Chicago.

[01:06:21]>> Oh, but when we show up, best coming for the whole thing.

[01:06:26]>> Best believe now.

[01:06:31]>> I hear from what everything I read, this Keegan Crouch kid is pretty good.

[01:06:39]>> Yeah, I've heard of him.

[01:06:42]>> Yeah, he's pretty good.

[01:06:44]Jake Narro. I did not think, matter of fact, Notre Dame looked at Jake Narro.

[01:06:50]They looked at him, thought about and eventually they landed on um someone different. But I'm shocked that Peyton Houston is 10th after the first day.

[01:07:08]>> I'm not.

[01:07:10]He's kind of candi somebody that Notre Dame was in on before he eventually chose Michigan over Notre Dame in eighth.

[01:07:23]Does this does this competition really yield itself to a certain type of quarterback?

[01:07:32]Um, I just think that they do a good job of putting the the best of the class in a group.

[01:07:45]And the things about these camps is you really see the differences of these top guys that translate to the years in college. Like Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence at Elite 11 at this time.

[01:08:01]I knew the strengths and weaknesses that I was that we eventually saw in college, but it was good to see them against each other because that was just a prequel to what we end up seeing in college. But the same things that were the differences and why Trevor won and Justin didn't or whatever were the are the differences when they got evaluated for the league. You know, it just, you know, so it matters, but it doesn't matter too because, you know, my class was a Santi Ward. He won, but you never heard about him. So, I think it's right >> hit or miss some things.

[01:08:39]>> But Jared G was in the same class. I beat him. But you know, Jared Jared Gar's doing well and and Jeremiah Love doesn't even know who it is. So >> that is crazy that you beat Jared Goff in the finals of the year you were there. Yeah.

[01:09:02]>> Yeah. Santi will beat all of us and he never played. So >> who did he who what college did he go to?

[01:09:08]>> He went to USF. Then he went to UCLA, then he, you know, one of those things, man.

[01:09:17]Auntie Willard.

[01:09:19]>> Yeah, you're right. And really never heard from him. Yeah, that's why I asked the question like is it geared towards because Trey I think you see Peter Bour, Will Mensu and Jake Narro you see like bigger more physical gifted quarterbacks.

[01:09:47]That's why I asked like do the quarterbacks that are more physically gifted as far as arm strength.

[01:09:53]>> Um, >> no, accuracy is like it's like it don't matter what you look like that accuracy is the great equalizer and stuff like this. They do a good job of having >> that be on display. And that's how you really realize, okay, this this kid can is special, but he can't routinely hit certain things that other kids can, you know? So yeah, >> it it don't really matter too much of it's a pure like skills thing. So I think that's what it is. Who has more defined skills at this level and all the other stuff like Anthony Richardson was in this and didn't win and wasn't even close. But his skills weren't even close when it came to what this competition is about. But in football, it looked great, you know? I mean, but in the NFL, this matters a little bit more because you you just need to be accurate. I mean, that's just what it is. So, hard to get around that. But this is where you >> have to you can't really score touchdowns running around. So, >> you gota super accurate. You got to be heady. You gota, you know, >> it's like, uh, Joseph Barrett, thank you for the mailbag or GTB. Uh SD, knowing what we know now, would you really have wanted Urban Meyer as his head coach?

[01:11:19]The guy is annoying.

[01:11:25]See, this goes back. See, this goes this it's a double-edged sword question, bro.

[01:11:36]Right.

[01:11:38]Now, you know, you trying to bring morals into this, right?

[01:11:46]And this is where fans like, Joseph, I'll call you to the carpet. At the time, you wouldn't have known a thing.

[01:11:54]And two national championships later, if something had been brought up, you wouldn't want to give the national championships back. You can dislike him as a person. You could say he's a dirt bag, but you would gladly take the national championships.

[01:12:12]>> Absolutely.

[01:12:13]>> So, I mean, what are we really talking about?

[01:12:15]>> I mean, we had Brian Kelly and didn't get a national championship. So, >> yes. And people caped for Brian. People, we told people the type of dude Brian Kelly was and they still caped for him because he won games.

[01:12:32]So, man, please, unless you're ready to indict, and if you you're ready to indict national championships based upon who the coach was, then yes, I would have wanted Urban Meyer as my head coach. Yes. Cuz at the time, I wouldn't have known who he was.

[01:12:57]And to find out years later that he was a jerk wouldn't have changed how I felt about those national championship teams.

[01:13:05]Not one bit.

[01:13:07]Not one bit.

[01:13:10]It doesn't change how Michigan fans embrace their national championship.

[01:13:15]Not one bit.

[01:13:18]LSU fans still talk about their last national championship. And they know they know Ed or Giron is an idiot. Oh yeah.

[01:13:28]>> So, no. Um, nah. You're not gonna catch me in that, you know, moral pull pit trying to act like all of a sudden that dismisses success on the football field.

[01:13:44]Mike Dicker was a jerk. I still talk about the 85 Bears. He was an absolute jerk.

[01:13:52]low-key prejudice and a jerk >> and still talk about the 85 Bears.

[01:14:00]>> Yeah.

[01:14:01]>> So, I we're just fortunate because Marcus Freeman's a good dude and he's cool and he wins games.

[01:14:14]>> I didn't say anything about Joseph. I didn't say anything about your opinion.

[01:14:18]You asked me a question. You asked me a question and based upon what you said which is knowing what we know now which is moralbased.

[01:14:34]It's absolutely moral based. You're asking me knowing what we know now. What do we know now?

[01:14:42]What do we know now? Some things that are immoral about him. That's what you're referencing, right? The immoral things that we found out about him afterwards. That's what you're asking me about. So, yes, your question to me was based upon morals.

[01:15:03]Would I have really wanted him to be the head coach at that time? Yes. And even knowing now, yes.

[01:15:12]Because morals and knowing who people are after the fact does not affect how you feel about the championship teams.

[01:15:22]If you want to say you feel different, that's fine. But I guarantee you if he coached in Notre Dame and you found out that he was a jerk afterwards, you still would celebrate Notre Dame winning championships.

[01:15:40]And if not, that's fine. But at the question that was presented was or it came across to me that you were asking me about things that were immoral that we found out about after his coaching career. So it came across as if you were asking about the morality of him or his morality or the lack thereof. That's all I'm saying.

[01:16:14]There are some people that will tell you there are certain things about Lou Holtz that Lou Holtz wasn't perfect to everybody. There are certain people in the administration that did not like him for whatever reason.

[01:16:28]>> Got him out of there. got him out of there >> and I've said certain things about him.

[01:16:33]He's a great coach to us, but it doesn't change if I heard if I happen to hear something about him. If I happen to hear, matter of fact, uh oh man, Brian Smith put this on on the IB board left. He had a what is the title of this? Oh, recruiting disasters from the past. You can go look it up on the IB board. Look, he puts that Notre Dame was about to land Tommy Frasier in the 1992 class, but Lou Holtz allegedly contacted Tommy Frasier during the dead period, meaning he cheated. Lou Holtz cheated, got caught by Tom Osborne, who threatened to turn Holtz in, and eventually Tommy Frasier ended up at Nebraska.

[01:17:38]Now, did I found that out about Lou Holtz that he's a cheater that got caught? Does that change how I feel about the 88 squad or the Holtz era? No, it doesn't.

[01:17:55]It doesn't.

[01:17:57]And that's just one of the stories that Brian Smith put up.

[01:18:03]He has one about Randy Moss, Tommy Frasier. Um, oh, the one about Javon Curse is is crazy.

[01:18:15]And the one about Carson Palmer is crazy.

[01:18:20]Basically, these everybody I just named basically wanted to or had committed to Notre Dame and for whatever reason didn't end up in the Notre Dame class.

[01:18:31]>> Randy Moss.

[01:18:36]>> So, and we talked about this the other day, right? when we're talking about like sports fandom um sports fandom and whether or not people want to be entertained more than win or vice versa. Do you want your team to win or do would you rather your team entertain you more? And of course in the perfect world you would love for both to happen.

[01:19:09]You know, but would you rather your coach be a perfect angel with no flaws, no character flaws? Would you rather him be a jerk and win or would you rather him be I guess Marcus Freeman type?

[01:19:39]Kirk Ference type. I'm trying who else would fit that bill of just being, you know, viewed as a standup great guy.

[01:19:48]Joey Maguire actually is viewed as a great standup guy in most circles.

[01:19:57]You know, of course, that's preferential, right? I think most people would prefer their coach be a nice guy and a winner.

[01:20:07]Right. I know most Notre Dame fans believe that Ryan Day is a jerk. The way he responded to Lou Holtz, they hate his guts. He's a winner. It's a lot of Ohio State fans that don't like Ryan, particularly like Ryan Day.

[01:20:26]John Harbaugh is a jerk.

[01:20:33]Jim Harbaugh jerk.

[01:20:36]They're winners.

[01:20:41]George Howlet was a jerk.

[01:20:47]He's a winner. Like, you can't have it both ways.

[01:20:53]You can prefer that it happens away, but the vast majority of the time, it's really not that way. Unfortunately, and I say that unfortunately because it should be that way. respectfully. It's different if you're dealing with grown-ups, but if you're dealing with high schoolers and young men trying to become men, you event you you would love for them to have a great role model helping them get to that place, you know, but ultimately as a fan, I don't have a problem with someone feeling like I don't need my coach to be Mr. Perfect. Shout out to Kurt Henning.

[01:21:42]Man, I couldn't stand Kurt Henning when he called himself Mr. Perfect.

[01:21:47]Awa Kurt Henning was cool. WWE Kurt Henning as Mr. Perfect. Jerk. Yeah, he's a jerk.

[01:21:58]All right, left. Anything before we get out of here? We hope everyone has a fantastic fantastic weekend.

[01:22:07]>> That's right.

[01:22:08]>> Yeah. Yeah. We got something special that we'll be recording uh this weekend for you guys. Hopefully we can get it to you Monday or Tuesday. And um I think Lefor is viewed as a pretty good guy.

[01:22:27]>> No, he's a jerk.

[01:22:29]>> Really?

[01:22:30]No, I like him a lot. Just I mean, you know, >> see, you spent time around him, you wouldn't know.

[01:22:36]>> It's a jerk in regards to like, you know, he care a lot about his what he's doing, you know, >> his hair products. Oh, my fault.

[01:22:48]>> No, for real. You know, you know how some guys are so into their job, it's like if you're not speaking their language or as intense, they come off as a jerk.

[01:22:58]>> Yeah. Yeah, it's not that's not that's not once again I think people are conflating.

[01:23:13]I literally said everybody would prefer to have a good guy winning at their school, but let's not sit here and flat out, I'm just going to say it. Let's not lie and say all of a sudden we wouldn't want the national championships that took place because we found out a certain coach is a jerk. That's when I feel like we're being disingenuous.

[01:23:45]Literally, you can pre Everybody prefers that you do it the right way and that the head coach is a great guy. Everybody prefers that. But we're not about to sit here and act like, "Right, thank you, Coach Vic. Indiana fans are not giving back national championships." They're not.

[01:24:06]And I think Indiana basketball fans are delusional because they fight way too hard to try and say that Bobby Knight wasn't a jerk.

[01:24:16]They try to man they try to act like this dude was an angel when he was on full display to the world who he was.

[01:24:25]It's like just just accept it. Like keep the championships, celebrate the championships and just say yo he was a jerk. And I think that's just the honest way to look at it. You can still revel and celebrate the championships and still acknowledge this guy was a jerk or this guy was a great guy. They're two separate things. You don't have to conflate them and make them one.

[01:24:56]You don't.

[01:24:59]That's a great example, Coach Vic. I had even talk about I hadotten about Bobby Knight because he's well worth he's worth being forgotten about in my opinion because of the person he is my opinion. But it doesn't change the fact yo went undefeated and won the national championship.

[01:25:23]Can't take that away. The Indiana fans still celebrated because Lord knows they haven't done much since then.

[01:25:31]I think he won two, right? Yeah, he won two. He won that one with Isaiah and then he won the other one with uh Keith Smart and Steve Alfred.

[01:25:42]I think he beat Beahheim and Ronnie Cyclley in that crew to win that championship. Yeah. So, you don't have to agree, but you're being disingenuous.

[01:25:56]You are. You don't have to agree, but you're being disingenuous.

[01:26:02]You are because you're not about to stop celebrating. If you find out if they win a championship this year and 10 years from now you find out that Marcus Freeman did something that you don't agree with and he was a jerk, you're not about to all of a sudden say, "I don't count that national championship. I don't I don't like that team anymore because the head coach was a jerk.

[01:26:27]You're cap.

[01:26:29]That's cap.

[01:26:31]That's cap.

[01:26:33]And to say you would, that's dishonest and disingenuous.

[01:26:40]That's what it is.

[01:26:42]That's what it is. I just gave you an example of Lou Holtz being a cheater and getting caught by Tom Osborne.

[01:26:50]Somebody Tom Osborne is widely accepted as one of the greatest guys in coaching.

[01:27:00]So a good guy caught Lou Holtz cheating in recruiting and threatened to report him.

[01:27:10]And I don't think anybody in this chat is about to say I don't like the 88 squad now.

[01:27:17]I didn't know Lou Holtz was a cheater or the things that the administration might know.

[01:27:24]That turns me off from Lou Holtz. That turns me off from the 88 squad, the 89 squad, the 93 squad. Come on, man. Now you That's my point. Now we're trying to be in a pull pit in fandom.

[01:27:42]Now you now literally you're judging somebody else's fandom because they're just a fan and they don't judge championships and winning by the same criteria that you do.

[01:27:56]That's fine. That's your We all prefer that it's done the right way.

[01:28:02]I don't know how I can say it 10,000 times. Everybody prefers Everybody prefers that it's done the right way. Everybody.

[01:28:16]I don't know what you disagree with.

[01:28:17]I've said it five times. Everybody prefers that it's done the right way.

[01:28:23]But if it's not, the vast majority of fans are not about to just throw out the winning in the championships.

[01:28:35]They're not.

[01:28:37]If you choose to be that small percentage, then that's fine. But I think the question was very I think it was a very tricky question.

[01:28:48]And all I did was answer it the best way I could and as fair as I could, being fair to both sides of how people view the situation.

[01:29:02]That's it. That's all I can do. Anything else left? Did you want to say something to it? Man, >> I think you hit the nail on the head, man.

[01:29:11]>> Yeah, I Man, I'm not about to judge people because I'm not about to judge Ohio State fans because they still celebrate their national championships.

[01:29:19]I with Urban Meyer or Florida fans, I'm not about to call them terrible fans because they still love him as a head coach. I'm I'm not doing that.

[01:29:32]I'm not doing that.

[01:29:37]I'm not doing that.

[01:29:41]Once again, you keep going into like what he and his players did with Florida, Ohio State. That's not my concern.

[01:29:52]I don't care about his life, what he he answers to a higher calling. And regard this is the cool thing. This is what I love about my Lord and Savior. Left, you know what I love about my Lord and Savior?

[01:30:06]>> What's that?

[01:30:07]>> Whatever he's done, and as much as a jerk as he's been, he still has an opportunity to get right.

[01:30:15]>> That's right.

[01:30:15]>> And nobody can judge him on that.

[01:30:19]So if he wakes up today, all of that is washed away.

[01:30:25]Means nothing and he can move forward in his life. That's what I love. So, I would be a fool to sit here and hold on to stuff from the past and I have no clue what any individual is doing to move forward in their life.

[01:30:43]I'm not harping on what he did and I have no idea what he's doing. So, I'm not going to open my mouth to put something on him when I have no clue if he's still or that person is still that individual moving forward.

[01:31:03]That's what I love about the God that I serve.

[01:31:10]>> The fact that somebody that's a jerk >> still has an opportunity to get right and they don't have to self-report to us.

[01:31:18]>> Yeah.

[01:31:18]>> To make us feel better, >> but to change our minds. I love it.

[01:31:25]>> We love it.

[01:31:26]>> I love it, man. They won the championship.

[01:31:32]God bless him. Him and his family, man.

[01:31:34]I hope him and his wife and his family and his children, hope they've been able to recover and be strengthened from everything that's transpired.

[01:31:44]I pray that for him and anybody else that's going through something or been through something, you always have a chance to get back on the path that was meant for you. always.

[01:31:59]So, I think that's a great way to kind of sum up that conversation.

[01:32:04]>> There we go.

[01:32:05]>> Absolutely. You can all your your your past doesn't determine your future. Not one bit.

[01:32:12]You can always shift gears.

[01:32:15]But left SD2 mics, man. We'll see you Monday >> for another edition of the Lucky Lefty podcast. Continue to love each other as always. continue to love each other, but most of all, make sure that you continue to spin it different.

[01:32:37]>> Yeah.