Love Many & Trust Few - Arie 5

Added: 2026-05-12

[00:00:00]It's time for us to check back in with Ain't Ary, see what happens next. If you've missed any of the previous readings, just look in the description below for a playlist. Also, look in the description below for a link for where you can buy this wonderful, wonderful book.

[00:00:18]Who built all these out buildings around here? Ulus built the last one of them. I think I saw a hen house up there, didn't I? Yes, L. We've sold many a egg. We've made a good living. If you want to know the truth, we made a living and made lots of money here. But now we put in lots of time. Many and many a night.

[00:00:42]I've been working when 2:00 come in the morning, carding and spinning.

[00:00:48]Ulus coralled, but I never paid it no attention. What I wanted to do, I just went ahead and done the best I could with it and went on. I had a good spinning wheel. I sold it the other day.

[00:01:01]Making a pan of bread. She is. You make up a batch of batter to last you a couple of days. Is that the way you do it? Yeah. See, I ain't got no milk. Have to use this old balt stuff. Dried milk.

[00:01:17]It ain't no count. But it does. It answers.

[00:01:22]It answers.

[00:01:24]Yeah, it answers. And that's all. Is that just flour and milk? Lard. Flour and lard. Lard and flour and milk. That old powdered milk that you buy. Do you know so and so? No, I don't know him. He makes bread when he comes. He's a good hand to make bread. I make out like he ain't no count for nothing, but he can handle that bread. I just do that for devilment, laughing and rattling bread pans. He's good to me. He ain't what he ought to be, but I don't guess I'm what I ought to be. You might not be just what you ought to be, and he might not be just what he ought to be. He gets to where he drinks liquor. Ain't nobody that drinks liquor. That's just what they ought to be. But he comes down here and helps me cook and he'll make up bread or die. Boys, he thinks he's the best bread maker. He is a good bread maker, but I won't let on.

[00:02:31]One day he made up the bread and he never washed his hands and I didn't like it. The next time he come, I didn't let him get into it. I try to be clean. I ain't going to eat nothing nasty if I know it. No sir. And if you cook with hands not washed, that's nasty. Yes, sir. That's what I call nasty. I read in the paper that unwashed hands carry more germs than anything else. I believe it.

[00:03:00]So, I don't have my hands in nothing unless I wash them good.

[00:03:06]Begins to mix powdered milk with water for bread. Can't hardly lift that dipper of water with this hand, boys. If it gets to where I can't do nothing, I'll have to get someone to come live with me or go somewhere else to stay or the other. I lived here in this house with them for 43 years. And I hope you never have to live in a house with nobody else. Half a dozen families mixed up together. Lived here off and on while we boarded folks, teachers and family and such. I hope you never have to live in a house with nobody else. You'll never be at home. Now, if you ever have to live with anybody else, you remember that, boys. Cuz I tried it for 43 years. And I think by that time I learned it. Ain't a for example. Ain't a Uliss's stepmother.

[00:03:58]She lived here. Now, she went crazy as a bed bug.

[00:04:04]Crazy as a bed bug. Yeah. Now, that's a saying, ain't it? Yeah. Paul gets some water for her. Now I'm going to go do something now I never had to do while Ulus was here. What's that? Set the table. He was a good cook. He cooked better cakes than me and he always set the table. Paul draws more water. That's another thing that I can't hardly do.

[00:04:33]Done without water for two days a while back cuz I couldn't draw a bucket of water to save my life.

[00:04:40]pouring food into bowls. If that pan was to burn me right bad, I'd drop it.

[00:04:46]That's the way I do things. Ulus used to laugh at me. L how he used to laugh at me. Anything get a little too hot and I drop it. Now this is what I couldn't do for years. What I'mma doing now, putting food into serving dishes and bowls. I'd cook the rations and Ulus' come take them up. I couldn't see this hand wouldn't stand the weight getting bread out of the oven. M boy, that bread looks good. Bread bake like that is good. Shakes pan and bangs it against the side of the stove. That's how you tell when it's done, huh? Shake the pan. It comes loose. You see there?

[00:05:33]Now that's just as good as wheat at the meal with food on table. We sit down to eat. Well, either one of you ask the blessing.

[00:05:43]Would you like me to? Yeah. I never sat down at the table, but what I want the blessing asked. Been raised that way.

[00:05:51]Wig says the blessing. Now you see what they is here. Just help yourself. I can't wait on the table like I used to.

[00:06:00]I can't wait on the table like my mother did either. This is what Ulus didn't like. Me leaving my bread that way. He didn't like me leaving my bread wrong side outwards upside down on the dish.

[00:06:14]He wanted the top. Huh, boys? He turned it over every time he come in. I ain't had no arch ters cooked in two or three days. I'm awful about arch ters. passing bowls of food around, people helping themselves. Remember the last time I was here, you were telling me something about nobody would ever sleep here because they thought the house was haunted. Is that right? Yeah, Bill Carpenter. He won't sleep here at all.

[00:06:45]Afraid it's haunted.

[00:06:48]Well, who's it haunted by? Nobody. Well, he just got scared. It was that lady.

[00:06:55]She was dreaming or something and she was sleeping in that room in yonder. He was sitting up in this room with Aunt Ay and she took climbing fits I call it in her sleep trimmers or something. They got scared in there and got out of hunting to see what the noise was. I knowed already what it was. I never told him no better and I ain't till yet. Cuz if that's what they wanted to believe, I don't care. He don't stay all night no more though. He ain't been here to stay all night since I don't know when. But ain't no Hanks here no bigger than myself.

[00:07:34]Now when we was little, we believed in him. But they never was nothing. I remember when Lindsay was sick, Poppy planted a big old cane patch right over from the house and put me and Lindsay over there to work it and thin it out and he went to town. Well, coming light, we got to playing about and wasn't trying to do nothing and something commenced right down below us. There was a big branch right down below us, way bigger than this one.

[00:08:03]You ever hear a bullfrog holler? You know, the big old coarse racket some of them makes. Well, it commenced and scared me and Lindsay just about to death. And we went to work just as hard as we could go. Thought something was coming at us because we wasn't working.

[00:08:21]I'll never forget that. While I live, scared plum to death. Yes, sir. Now, we got that cane patch weeded out for Poppy come back. Now, that's the first time I can remember being scared.

[00:08:36]Well, did the people back then believe in ghosts and that kind of thing? Why, Lord, yes, mommy did. Did she? Oh, yeah.

[00:08:45]She was afraid. Mommy was was afraid of anything in this world. She wouldn't a bit more come here and stay all night by herself for nothing. You couldn't hire her to stay here with just me by ourselves.

[00:08:59]Cynthia, that was Ulysus's stepmother, said every night when they'd go to bed here. You could hear the cups of rattling. They said, "Then when you lit the lamp, everything be just as still as it could be." Cynthia didn't pay no attention, but mommy was scared to death of it. I tell you another place they say is hated. Now, you know this big old white house right down here on this bridge right down here. They say you never can cross that bridge with a light without the light going out. But that's not so cuz I've crossed it hundreds of times. I've carried a light over it many a time by myself. I used to go from here to Cowi to church to the preaching by myself at night. I had to cross that bridge on the way to church and I never had my light to go out. I've been up and down here for 43 years and I've never seen nar a hint.

[00:10:01]Never seen narate. No sir.

[00:10:05]What do you suppose one would look like if there are such things?

[00:10:10]Ain't seed no hat bigger than myself.

[00:10:14]You suppose they'd look like people though if there was some? Why? No. All hates ever is is just somebody scaring somebody usually.

[00:10:25]Did they have any kind of ways to protect themselves from that kind of thing? No. No, I don't reckon we did.

[00:10:33]Now, they used to say that Grandpa Carpenter made whiskey. Made it all his life. I reckon that was my husband's grandpa, Uncle Dave. They kept trying to get him to stop and he just kept making whiskey. One night he had an awful run of liquor ready to run off and the devil got after him. Chains commenced a rattle all around the steelhouse going round and round. I reckon he went out to find out what it was, but of course he never found nothing. Now that was what they called a hint. Boys, he stopped right that minute making liquor and never made another drop while he was living, poured out whatever he had and quit that night.

[00:11:17]He said the devil was after him. He said the devil was appearing to him and showed him that he might never to make no more liquor, that it was wrong to make liquor. So he never made no more.

[00:11:30]Not till he died. It scared Grandpa to death. Scared him that bad.

[00:11:37]Now there's some that'll finally quit making liquor, but there's some that never quits it. Ulus and me never made the stuff, but it's been made on our place right over there. Ulus went across that hauler right over there and found a steel and took the maddic that was here and cut it all to pieces. I don't know how many barrels he cut up. We found out whose it was way after that. We didn't know then, but we found out later. He used to live right over there and they'd have frolocks there and get drunk and cut up. God didn't put up with him making whiskey long and he took him away from here. You know, God don't put up with people that does meanness on and on and on. He takes them out of here. He gives them time to repent though. You know, God is good. God is a merciful God. And he gives them all the time they need to repent. Then if he knows they ain't going to repent, he takes them out of here. Yes, sir. Now, I've watched that for the last 80 odd years, and I've seen it done over and over and over.

[00:12:48]I don't know what anybody in the world would have a taste for that old strong stuff for. I've took it out of a teaspoon. Mommy's sister ain't mad give it to me. Now she would drink liquor.

[00:13:00]Her old man drunk it all the time.

[00:13:02]They'd get drunk in a thought. But I wasn't going to fool with it. I sure didn't like the taste of it. I didn't like the fix of it on the people neither. When liquor's in, sense is out.

[00:13:16]We lived right on the side of the road that goes up and down Cowita. You don't know at the Dickens, I've heard. and the hollering I've heard and the shooting I've heard and all such things like that caused by liquor. I slept upstairs by that window that faced the road up there. I done it a purpose so that when a racket commenced, I could get up and go to the window to see who it was and what the racket was or who was being killed or what they was doing. I got up a many a time. I always found out what happened to everyone but one, and that was some woman that screamed her eyes just about plum out. I raised the window up, even went out on the porch and sat in the window. And you know, from this day to this, I'll never know who that woman was. She screamed her eyes out. No telling who it was or what they was doing. Not a bit. I've heard them cussing and shouting up and down that road many a night. And the screams I heed on Kawita. It's a wonder I've got a bit of sense. Shoo. It's a thousand wonders that I slept at all.

[00:14:31]You just didn't know who was killed or what they was doing. No telling what they done. They fit and scratched all the time. Fighting's bad for old clothes. She laughs. But ever since I've been knee high to a duck's egg, they've made liquor up on Kawita. Folks always made liquor up there. Don't know if they make it now or not, but so and so made liquor up there all his life. I reckon he wasn't worth a cuss and he raised a shabby family. Every one of them's gone to the bad. I just didn't like none of that man. Anyhow, the law was after him all the time. Of course, he always had somebody out of watching. Once he got his steel out of the steel house and set it up right over there in the meadow from our house, the neighbors come on over here and wanted me and mommy to go over there and look at that steel. It was hid in a ditch over there in that meadow. Well, mommy said I'm not afraid I'd have went. I guess I wasn't thinking about the law catching me. Mommy said if the law had come along and caught us fooling around with that steelhouse, they had got us. Finally, it got so you could see the light in the steel house and they started cussing us out for going through that trail in the meadow.

[00:15:58]Some men went through there one night of hunting and seed that lie and next thing you know, the law got them. I'd have seen them be mean enough to report them, but I'd have never done it. If you report them, they might get mad at you.

[00:16:12]Long as you was good to them, they'd be good to you. They never did bother us none except they burned up everything I had once. I reckon that was a botherment. Oh, there's been lots of meanness done on Kawita. I don't know how many men's been killed up there. God don't put up with such as that. Now, I believe that just as much as anything, tell the truth. I've watched lots of it.

[00:16:37]And God always has his way. And sooner or later, he'll do it. And I can't help but be proud of it. I'm mighty proud of what God does. I am. You may not agree with all I say, but that's all right. I believe it just the same. Yes, sir.

[00:16:57]talking about dinner and passing butter, honey, salt, etc. I don't like honey much. It's nasty. Honey's the nastiest thing you ever eat in your life. It is.

[00:17:10]Oh, honey is the nastiest thing I ever see in my life. Now, they had 75 stands of bees when I first come here. All that was bees up there, and all this here down here was bees. I worked them bees and that honey and it was the nastiest stuff anybody ever eat. And they make out like it's as pure as it can be. I know better than that. I tried it out. I know.

[00:17:39]What makes it nasty? Or what do you mean? It's just nasty. That's all. Those old bees is as nasty as they can be.

[00:17:48]Finally, everyone died. They stung me all over. One day everybody went off to work and a hive swarmed and I had on wool stockings. I put them bees up and they about stung me to death. Now I know that was one prayer that I prayed that was answered. I prayed for God to destroy the last bee they was up here and he did. Never left ner one. No sir.

[00:18:16]There was a lot of money in them, but Lord, the trouble they was.

[00:18:22]What kind of hives did they keep them in? Just old homemade gums. Those are hollow sections of tree trunks, aren't they? Yeah. Are there any of those left anymore?

[00:18:35]I don't think there's a single gum around here. Nowhere's now. Some of them was made out of lumber, you know, made square, and some of them was holler trees. I don't believe they ner up in the grainery, though. If they is, I don't remember it. This old junk man comes here and takes everything I got.

[00:18:55]He gives us many a dollar, though.

[00:18:58]Where's the junk man from? I believe he lives at Canton. He's been here lots.

[00:19:05]Got so he comes after dark and I don't like that. Takes a whole lot of things that I don't know he takes. I can't keep up with him. Of course, he's got several dollars worth of stuff. We had them big high lamps, you know, had five or six of them. He kept wanting them. And finally, at last, I let him have that and out of the bedroom. I let him have it for $2. I ought to have done that. And he never paid me for it. He said he did, but I know he never done it. And I said to myself, that's the last thing he'll ever get here. He wants that corded bedstead in there that Youngs was taking a picture of. He's just a dime for that.

[00:19:50]Said he'd give me $30 cash money for that and another bedstead. I said, "I ain't going to let you have it.

[00:19:59]Don't do it. Don't let him have it. I'm not. What kind of things has he bought here? What have you sold him?" Anything and everything in this world could be thought of. baskets and old boxes and scalding barrels and anything in this world he could pick up. He'd go upstairs and get all that he wanted up there, come down and go off with it. But the last time he come, I know he took that lamp and he ain't come back no more. Him and his wife's parted. He come one evening and it come a storm and he got his stuff and carried it out there and then he come out there at the well and got down on his knees on one side of the well. I can't get down on my knees so I just had to stand there. Ulus got down on his knees with him and you never heard such a prayer come out of nobody in your life has come out of that man. I was standing there about to faint standing there so long. I'd been running all day and was tired to death. Anyhow, I told Ulys I was glad when he got done.

[00:21:08]He prayed a good prayer though. He just prayed a real good prayer. He's eat here I don't know how many times. He comes in about the time we get dinner ready and he comes and eats.

[00:21:21]Do you ever feel he doesn't give you a fair price? Lots of times I have. Yeah.

[00:21:26]He's cheated me and I know it. I said when anybody cheats me, I don't want to have another thing to do with them. If I want to give you a dollar, I'll give you a dollar and I don't expect you to pay me for it. I don't expect you to give me another dollar. If I give anybody anything, that's what I mean to do. When Jeie gave me all that meat in there and I give her them rings out of the bureau, I didn't charge her nothing for them.

[00:21:54]And that's the reason she wouldn't charge me for that meat. Now, that's all right. That was all right. I don't mind that. But when I say I'll take a nickel for it, I expect to get a nickel. And if I don't ask nothing, I don't expect to get nothing. But I asked $2 for that lamp and he never give it to me. I know he didn't. Said he did, but I know he didn't.

[00:22:21]Well, love many and trust few and always paddle your own canoe. Laughing. That's what mommy said. You know, if you went to his place and saw what he charged for those things.

[00:22:35]Yes, I know. I bet you'd be surprised.

[00:22:39]Now, that cupboard in there, he just wants that so bad. He just don't know what to do. Don't. I ain't going to let him have it. That's my mother's cupboard, and I'm not. I bought it and paid for it when we moved over here, but he'll never get it. This and in here is one that Uliss's papa made. Poppy made every one of the youngans a cupboard.

[00:23:02]And that's one Poppy had when he was first married. Him and Uncle John Fletcher made it. And I said, "You're not going to get that cupboard." He begged for it, though. Someone said I could get $400 for that cupboard, but he wouldn't give you that much for it. I don't guess. Oh, no. Not to save your life. He's a cheap guy. He is. He's a cheap guy. Still, he's been lots of help to us. My brother in Georgia is the one that's been a lot of help to me. He give us that stove in there and he give us that battery radio and every month of his life, he brought us a car full of rations. He lived in Takcoi and we never had to tell him to bring them. He come up here the other day. He don't come now like he did though. He has to work and he don't have a chance to come. I don't reckon. I told him the other day I said the first $1,000 this place brings if it's sold goes to you. Stood there sort of grinning and never said a word and I never said no more. He never said n a word about it. Good old boy. He was here last Sunday.

[00:24:15]I just hate to think of somebody coming up here and buying things from you and not giving you what they're worth. Well, they do though. Willard said for me to quit it. He said last Sunday if he was me, he'd quit letting them come in here and take my stuff that way. They have took a lot of stuff. And I know they've took lots of stuff from here that they never paid for.

[00:24:38]Ain't no use to grieve after spilt milk.

[00:24:44]talks about dinner. Now, Ulus wouldn't have had all this clutter of dishes and pans and pots on the table. Every time we ate, I'd have to move all that in there on the meal chest. And I got tired of it. Finally, I said, "They can eat with it on the table. It don't bother a thing in the world. Not a thing." I used to keep borders. And I tell you, I didn't do the borders like I have. Just puts down at a messy table. Ah, we like it this way. This is nice. It makes it easier all around, don't it? Yeah. Yes, sir. It sure does.

[00:25:23]So, we'll stop right there today. That actually ends the last That's the last of the kind of recording that we've been reading. So, the rest of it more, it's not the back and forth. It's more just her talking. Really fascinating end here though to it.

[00:25:39]I love the part at the beginning where she's talking about the powdered milk. She don't like it.

[00:25:46]She don't like it. But she says, um, it does. It answers in other and he says it answers. And she said, yes. So, in other words, it does. It works and it answers what she needs. It's the answer to her problem, but it don't work really. I mean, it works, but she don't like it.

[00:26:00]She don't like the taste of it compared to milk. So, I love how she put that.

[00:26:04]That's just so so the language part.

[00:26:06]There's lots of language in this part. I was going to talk about I I really liked it when she's talking about the man that come and when I say so and so it's because the book doesn't say there's just a line. And I'm sure they did that to protect the people that she was talking about to not, you know, talk.

[00:26:22]They didn't want their name mentioned.

[00:26:24]So, they just took their name out and there's just a line. So, I just said so and so. But the man that come to help her cook, she says, and he thought he was the best bread maker. And she says he was pretty good bread maker. But I love how she was talking about him that he'd been awful good to her, but he wasn't exactly what he ought to be. But then she says, "But I'm not what I ought to be either." And it really reminded me of this song. I'll link to it in the description below, but it's a Dell Mccur song and it's a recovering Pharisee is the name of it, but there's a line in it that says he's a sinner and a saint simultaneously. I'm not what I was, but I'm not what I'm going to be either.

[00:27:00]Like, I'm a work in progress, you know.

[00:27:02]So, I really loved that part. Sad that she talked about, you know, she keeps mentioning about her hand, how it draws up on her, but that she couldn't draw the water and she went without water for two days. So, I'm sure she just had to either wait till her hand got better enough to do it or somebody come along to draw water for her. Sad to to think about that. I thought it was really interesting how she says she says several things that Ulus wouldn't have let her do. Like he wouldn't have let her leave the clutter on the table. He always set the table. She didn't take up the food. She didn't have to do that. He helped her because of her hand. But she said he wouldn't allow her to. He didn't like it when you turn the bread. I'm assuming this is cornbread. Turn it out.

[00:27:45]He wanted it flipped back over so the top showed. See, I I grew up in a house where you never flipped it back over. We were like ain't airy. And if you've watched my videos enough, you know that when I do my cornbread, I leave that wonderful crust on the top. It's pretty for one thing, but it keeps it crusty.

[00:28:03]It keeps it crunchy. So, uh, it's fun neat though that Ulis was somebody that wanted it turned over. And I've had people that watch my videos say that you should should really turn your bread over. And I'm thinking, well, no, I shouldn't cuz I like it. I like it like this. But uh you must have been in that camp for sure.

[00:28:22]Of course, interesting her talking about the Hanks and the ghost. And I think it's so funny when she says u that they're just she just don't believe it.

[00:28:31]She don't believe in none of them. You know that there she says no. He's trying to get her to say, "Well, what would they look like?" like, you know, I guess he's thinking like you think they look like somebody with a sheet over them. Do they look scary? Like they're, you know, something wrong with them or really big, really small. And she just says they I mean, she's basically just saying they're they're not real. It's somebody scaring somebody or somebody's imagination or whatever that she just won't have it. She just won't believe in it. But she does talk about though her and Lindsay when they were supposed to be weeding the cane and they were playing and what they heard that day scared them into getting back on track.

[00:29:07]You have to wonder if that was maybe even her daddy knew they wasn't doing what they supposed to. If it was something like a big bullfrog that she mentioned or if it was somebody else just doing something they didn't even know her and Lindsay were there and they were just doing something else and they just heard it and started thinking what could that be? What could that be?

[00:29:26]Whatever it was though, it scared them into scared them into um actually doing what they were supposed to. Now, some of the language in this one, she talks about meanness. Meanness, that's just still really common here, like, you know, he's just out there getting into meanness. I know. Or if he hadn't got in all that meanness, then he wouldn't be locked up in the jail. You know, that's still really, really common. I loved it that she said botherment. Bother. I don't say that one, but I should. But I've heard a lot of older people talk about something such and such being a botherment, a botherment to them.

[00:30:01]While I was reading, I thought of a few more or I come across a few more that he was that she was talking about.

[00:30:10]Interesting. When she talks to him about having to live in a house with other people, you know, she's talked about being alone. When I first read that, I thought, now what are you trying to say?

[00:30:19]But she was talking about the borders, having borders live there. So for 43 years she had different borders. Now some of them may have been people that paid. Some of them was people in their family that they took care of like Ulys's stepmother. But that's what she was talking about was like it's it's difficult. And I'm sure in those days with really small house and all that, if you had extra people in your house all the time and you was having to wait on them and take care of them and and listen to what they thought you should do, it would be difficult. It says right towards the end of it is when she finally learned how to do it good and then it was all over. But I think that's what she was what she's talking about there. Interesting. She says he made better cakes than her. He cooked better than than she did.

[00:31:04]Trying to find what was the language.

[00:31:07]One of them was she talks about frolics.

[00:31:09]She's talking about those people that um he used to live right over there and they have frolics there and get drunk and cut up. There's really two in there.

[00:31:16]Frolics. I don't hear anybody talk about frolicss today, but a lot of old accounts that you read like from main area that's what they call any kind of party like if there was dancing in music that was a frolic. Sometimes just a good time with a bunch of people would just be a frolic. Like today we might say a get together or a dance or a shindig or something like that, but that was frolic. And then she talks about they get drunk and cut up. So the cut up part, that one's still really common.

[00:31:44]Uh, we might talk about people cutting quit that cutting up or they were in there cutting up laughing, being hysterical, getting on my last nerve or whatever. But cut up. That's a that's another one I liked how she talked about u this is an interesting one that I have a I have a video about is how words with the end in ow, so if it's window, yellow, fellow, those it's there's two different ways people have of saying it in the mountains of Appalachia. two different usages that are notable that are documented. One is like a Aries saying instead of window, she's saying winder. She's putting a er on it.

[00:32:21]Wender. I say window. Duh. I put a a on it. Wenda. Those are the two different usages. I might say I say feller. Like that's he's a pretty nice feller. Other people might say fella. They put a a on it. Pill the same pillar. All those any ow one you can think about. I have a video about it. But like pillar, a lot of people sleep on their pillar, their favorite pillar. I sleep on my favorite pillow. I put a a on it. Pillow. Anyway, that was uh interesting too, that one.

[00:32:49]And there's another one down here. I'll talk about it in just a minute.

[00:32:54]Fascinating. Her dislike of honey. I can't even hardly imagine it. Can you?

[00:32:59]That she thinks it's nasty. This nastiness. She thinks it's terrible. And I guess it I mean, she kind of sounded like she was resentful about them bees stinging her. So maybe that was part of it. Maybe it was working intimately with the hives and having to get the honey.

[00:33:13]I've never processed honey or anything like that. But she was really against honey, wasn't she? So that was that was really interesting.

[00:33:22]This is another usage, but not really uh unique words. I loved it cuz she said that he lived she thought that this the guy trying to kind of swindle her out of her antiques, she thought he lived at Canton. that usage is still really common. So I might say Matt's daddy lives at Canton. Um, no, she she lives in Cherokee County, but she lives at Murphy. See, and I live in Brass Town. So that at you live at somewhere. That's part of it. Another way that that kind of descriptive part for locations is I would say we went over to Blairesville or we went over to Franklin the other day. I went over to Franklin instead of just I went to Franklin. I went over to Franklin. and I went over to Playersville. It's funny though and it's it's different for different people, but it's how you picture things in your mind. If I was going, we used to play a lot at the Hawasy Dam community center. I would say we went down to Hawwasy Dam uh community center and made music the other night.

[00:34:21]We went down there. I think of Hanging Dog being down in Hanging Dog below Murphy. uh really interested instead of just saying the place's name but saying like I said instead of just I went to Blairersville I went over to Blersville today or he lives at Franklin or you know anyway that was really neat and that's still here for a lot of older people maybe my age and and older and I hope some young people are saying it but I'm not sure about that and of course you've got to love her little sayings in this one. And there was two of them. She says like, you know, kind of like, well, there's no reason for me to talk about that no more. And she says, well, uh, love many and trust you and always paddle your own canoe. Canoe. Always paddle your own canoe. I really love that. And she says that um, mama, she says, "Mommy said that. Mommy said that." So, that was that's a good one. And you just see her saying it like, you know, no reason to even talk about it no more. It is uh sad that the old guy was taking advantage of her and kind of stealing her stuff out from under her nose and not giving her all the money. And he's the wig was telling her, you know, he wouldn't pay you for that, but you'd be surprised if you seen what he was selling it for. And she said, "Oh, she knew." Yeah. There's no telling how much he was making. You know, sadly, even today, that happens to a lot of older people. I bet you can think of somebody in your life in your community that um they're elderly and they stay by theirel and somebody pretended to help them and then come in and stole from them whether it was money, their medicine, even their you know old dishes or something like this.

[00:35:59]So really really sad and um if they don't have any family to kind of look out for them then that just kind of happens and sometimes it happens right under the family's nose they don't realize till it's too late what the person is doing. So that's really really sad. Another um usage of the language is she called TCOA TCOA. You might be familiar with Tcoa. She called it Tcoi.

[00:36:23]Takcoi.

[00:36:24]Sometimes uh older people especially, you don't hear it as much with my generation or younger, but they would change the that a ending of Atlanta, Georgia, all those. And they put a IE on it. Atlanta. Atlanta is usually Atlanta or the E R, but Georgie becomes Georgia becomes Georgie. Pap and Granny both said Georgie. They said Georgie instead of Georgia. Uh there's a place over not too far from here on the other side of uh the mountain there. Smrna. Smyrna.

[00:36:56]And we say old-timers would say Smyrny.

[00:36:58]That's Smmy. He lives He lives at Smyrny. There's she a good one. So I love that that she said Tcoi. Her brother lived at Tcoi. And then the other uh kind of saying that she shared I loved was ain't no use to grieve after spilled milk. Of course, we've all heard the no no reason to cry over spilled milk. You know, don't cry over spilled milk. But she said, "Ain't no use to grieve after spilt milk." So, I really love that. Wonderful, wonderful language from Ary. I hope you enjoyed this part.

[00:37:29]Please leave a comment and tell me what jumped out at you. And as always, I hope you'll hope you'll drop back by next Friday and we'll see what she talks about next. And that kind of recording where they were just transcribing the recording, that's over and now she'll just start talking about her life.