Welfare systems in countries with high immigration rates face significant challenges when balancing support for vulnerable populations with fiscal sustainability, as demonstrated by the UK's welfare bill ballooning due to population surges and the complex interplay between legitimate entitlements and potential exploitation of the system.
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Um so what about this 1.5 million people are on benefits and migrants are on benefits. Okay so if you extrapolate the number from the overall amount of people on benefits it's absolutely huge. It is a significant number 15.6% of people who claim are migrants. Now you then have to get into the territory of define a migrant. You know is it is it somebody who's just arrived here?
If you've been here 20 years and you've worked and paid your taxes diligently, then I think most people would say, "Well, you're probably as entitled as anyone else."
>> Yeah. It's a really Or are you? Well, or are you? I mean, with the the tax I pay, I'm like, "Why aren't I entitled to some benefits?" But I'm not actually because you're not. So, under my visa, >> you come from the land down under I nearly sang it. Um, you come from Australia, of course.
>> Yeah, I do. which is that island above the it's sort of the north island of New Zealand really.
>> Sure. That's a lovely way of putting it.
Uh you will face my wrath on >> I actually did see that on a postcard in Australia.
>> That's horrible.
>> It said South Island, North Island, and then it had uh Northwest Island written across Australia.
>> New Zealand is but a blemish on the Australian map. Let's just say uh no, but look, the thing is I here I'm here as a foreigner and on my visa it says no public funds. So when I was looking into the data, it is really interesting. Half of it is because we kind of didn't Brexit properly and so a lot of people from the EU or former EU nationals who are part of the ILR scheme were able to um you know were able to basically claim their benefits. Uh but unfortunately you've got a big percentage which are foreign nationals which are living off the taxpayer dollar. And I think it's really interesting because look at take Somali's for example. So you've got the 2021 census data that said that Somali born residents they face a very high rate of unemployment. Uh social housing dependencies. Some studies indicated that over 45% receive housing benefit uh but they only represent 0.1% of the population. And uh others are saying 72% live in social housing. These are this is based on census data.
>> Um so I think it's interesting when we look at what nationalities are coming into the country and then say okay is that compatible? Is that going to work?
Because you've got other um households such as Southeast Asian, you know, your Indian households that actually are a net benefit uh in terms of what they bring into the economy in if we're just looking at raw data here. So I think it's it's something we really need to tighten the belt on. Let's just say >> if you're a you know a neurosurgeon that has come from India or China, >> Nigeria, wherever to pick obvious countries where people do come in professional capacity and you've been here for 20 years and you're earning about 400 grand a year and you're paying all manner of things into the system. I don't think anybody's going to say to the to the neurosurgeons, "Sorry mate, your kids are not entitled to this particular bet." Because they would be, wouldn't they? Because they've paid for it. But if you are, there's another group you just mentioned, the Somali group. Now, that may well have started with desperate Somalians coming here to escaping a horrendous war. We also understand that because we're civilized people. But there you have to is everyone just scared a politician just scared of going, "Sorry, we do have to draw a line here." Well, I think it's completely to do with that. I mean, there are plenty of nations that do not offer benefits to foreign nationals or foreignb born citizens. So, you've you've got Qatar, the UAE, Japan, Poland, Germany. Uh these are countries that do not offer that sort of thing.
It's very possible to just put in certain bits of legislation that would ensure that that wouldn't happen. So I think that it's you're right, it's kind of this soft touch approach that we have um towards those who do come here. And that's sort of it's in in the British spirit. It's in the British blood. You know, we are the country that fought all the wars, tried to maintain peace within Europe uh historically and want to be that helping hand. But unfortunately, it seems like the kindness has been taken for weakness in this situation. You know, you've got Brits who actually do deserve these benefits who aren't able to access them. Absolutely true. And you people from Commonwealth countries where you would imagine like your own you'd imagine that you'd come somehow be in a fast track lane on that just because of the well because of the Commonwealth thing, wouldn't you?
>> Yeah, you would think.
>> Look at you. You they can't they won't give you anything. So you can't get your hair done or anything, can you? You poor thing.
>> I know. It's just terrible. It does look like I haven't been over yet. This is the whole uh this is the the pinpoint of the segment. But yeah, I think we need to also just look into the benefit system in general. the whole thing is quite broken. You've got basically it benefiting families that are split up, benefiting single mothers, which in some cases can be a really good thing, but also does it then encourage families not to stay together and for us not to have that family unit in order to get more benefit? Um, you've got elements of it that are genuinely just over the phone.
Now, if you have anxiety, if you have depression, because of the COVID era, you're able to just call up and have your consultation done, not in person.
that also needs to be stopped. So to stop us becoming a benefits uh country with a nation attached or however you want to I always cook that um that saying we do need to really basically root and gut the whole thing.
>> I think so. How long have you been here now?
>> Six years.
>> Six years. Well, Betty says who may well be a fellow Antipodian.
>> Do you know what countries come under antipodian?
>> Is this part of the quiz?
>> No. No, this isn't part of the quiz. We haven't got to the quiz yet.
>> Go on. Well, you be Kiwis and Aussies are antipedodian, right? But I think I'm right in saying so are South Africans.
>> Yes. Which doesn't make any sense.
>> Isn't it an Is it an equator thing?
>> Oh gosh. Is Yeah. Is it a southern thing? Is it that we're all everything's upside down where we're from?
>> Yeah.
>> Oh god. Antipedian. Yeah. This is >> Somebody said when I went to Australia and also not part of the quiz, uh said to me that the water goes round the sink the other way round in Australia.
>> Correct. Yeah.
>> Is that true?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm pretty sure when I turned up in Melbourne, it was the first thing I did in a loo. So, I'm going to check this thing.
>> Thank god that's the first thing that crossed your mind. I'm glad your priorities were strange.
>> Yes, I'm I've had a 27-hour flight, but nope. I need to see what way around the world. It doesn't go the other way, does it? What curious?
>> You're saying it really does. Anyway, Betty, who may well be a fellow antibiotanian, says Samara probably has to sit in the UK for seven years for the right to remain and paid all visas and work permits like the rest of Commonwealth immigrants. We should all collectively sue for discrimination. So, I was driven by the word we should all sue that Betty may well be a fellow Australian, Kiwi, whatever.
>> Well, don't worry. I'm not going to go for uh ILR. I'm not going to go for any I I think this country's given me enough. I don't believe that I need it.
No, I don't believe I deserve with us for a start.
>> Well, exactly. That's that's what I mean. That's my golden ticket. I don't believe that I should get citizenship here. I'm not a British person.
>> I I I just don't believe that that I I feel like Australians do come here though. They stay for a bit and then they leave. There are other portions of the society that don't and that's totally their right. That's how Britain's always been.
>> It's great. It's I I love I feel quite proud when Samar I don't want to stereotype or anything, but when you were a kid throwing a boomerang at a dingo, did you ever think Did you ever think that you would >> Did you ever time >> think you'd be sitt >> sitting in a studio >> in London Bridge?
>> Yeah. Yes.
>> Did you go, "Oh, one day."
>> Yeah. One day.
>> Don't worry, dingoes.
>> I'll make it to the gone. Yeah. One day I'll do it and I won't claim my citizenship because I'm that Australia proud. No, I think I Yeah, it's it's really interesting though in terms of how um the the British system works and how it is quite easy to play. There are so many different holes. I almost know that as a foreigner that there are holes in this system that are made so that the British people come second and unfortunately those who have just arrived somehow can make it to the top of the queue in some sort of way. Well, we also live in this strange world which brings us to the other story as well.
Just one in a 100 failed failed asylum seekers are returned to some countries even though some of them are deemed to be safe. So these are 100 all failures.
They're all failures but only one in that 100 are being sent back. What the hell's going on? One in a hundred.
>> Uh it what's going on is that there is a system whereby you can appeal as many times as you want.
>> Who came up with that system >> precisely? And look, they're trying to put an end to it, but I think we need to look at the fact that you can appeal eight times. Most of these cases that we bring up o over eight times. Most of these cases we bring up on talk are about uh asylum seekers who go, "Well, I've got, you know, article eight right to a family life on the ECR. I can appeal multiple different times." And unfortunately because of the court backlog, they just get so fed up with having to continue to process these people that they then just shove them through the system in order to get get rid of that claim.
>> We have these big hotels, haven't we?
Like at Heathro that are there for people ready to jump on planes, right?
Yes.
>> And no one goes anywhere.
>> Yes. I've been to that uh holiday in that I think you're referring to. Have you?
>> Yeah.
>> You were staying there or reporting there? I tried to stay there, but it's all full up for multiple months at a time for some reason.
>> Isn't that strange?
>> Yes. Um, so yeah, I went on many protests out there and the local residents I >> You were covering the protest rather than being >> Yeah, I was not I was not part of them.
>> Yeah.
>> Did you go on a protest this morning?
>> Yeah, I did go on a protest this morning. Um, the pro Palestine people are at it again. Uh, they really really do feel that Barclay's Bank is the devil incarnate.
>> Oh, for God's sake, it's the UK. Sod off. I mean, what really >> I know >> this is I don't care about your Palestinian affinity. I don't give a monkeys about your Hamas views or your Gaza views. Well, I care about your Hamas views. They're a terrorist group, but I'm sorry. This is the United Kingdom. This is not our fight in that respect.
>> Absolutely. I've I've really enjoyed watching Julia Hartley Brewer um on Twitter just go, "Can we talk about my bin collection now?" That's all I'll say on that because we can't mention anything else. But I think um it was definitely a protest for the unwashed and unemployed because the the amount of people that were available at 10:00 a.m.
on a Thursday morning to go and sit outside the uh the Queen's building was pretty impressive. And you know, when I asked them about the terrorist attack that had happened uh less than a week ago, >> they didn't have any strong feelings about it. And that's what really scares me. You know, we've had people knifed on the street and still they seem to want to justify that behavior.
>> Want to believe that somehow that every um every Jew or even every Israeli is the embodiment of the Israeli government, which of course is um a huge um kind of stereotype and generalization in the first place. And you know, and even if they were um Israeli as distinct from Jewish, but not Israeli, I mean, they're still not responsible for anything. I mean, do you know what I mean? It's just this is absolutely mad at what is happening.
>> Absolutely. It is because the thing is I asked them this morning, I said, "Well, what about the genocide that's happening in Sudan? What about the genocide that's happening uh towards the weager population in in Jing Jang in China?
What where are your protests for that?"
and they said no be this is the Israeli government is the most evil and they need to be absolutely stopped and you know the Zo media which is what they called us needs to be out of there and I think it's because as you said Ian it's so deeply rooted in anti-semitism it's this hatred towards the Jews it's not really even about Palestine at this point >> absolutely um just before we oh by the way the French police have started slashing dingies over on the north coast apparently >> great 800 million million pounds went into a couple of knives and slashing dingies. They've done >> they did one on Sunday.
>> Oh, did they? Okay, great. What What a payoff. I mean, look, >> they're celebrating big time over there at the palace at the Calala police station.
>> The Jems have sat there and stood towed deep in the water while thousands of boats have been let across the channel.
And I think it's egregious because we keep paying France hundreds of millions of pounds for them to do something and it's not in their interest to do anything about it. Interestingly, um or at least this article says that the human rights lawyers are already getting involved.
>> Um which is quite fascinating because we reported on a story earlier this week whereby uh a boat made it into British uh territory and two women were found dead on that boat. Now it has come out that they could have been crushed or asphixxiated so they didn't drown. Um and there's no investig. Yes. And it is so mysterious in some way. Two women. Um they are doing investigation into it but I didn't really hear the cries of the human rights lawyers at that time when this story came to pass. And it just shows you where their loyalties lie.
>> It's kind of weird, isn't it? There is a lot of pick and choosing going on. Um, speaking of which, uh, it's not really a quiz, uh, we got here, but last time you were on with us, um, something terrible happened for an Australian. You had virtually, not quite, but virtually never heard of Neighbors.
>> Yes, that Yeah, that is. I wasn't really allowed to watch it. Apparently, it was too scandalous.
>> Wasn't allowed to watch. It wasn't Carrie. I mean, it was flipping neighbors.
>> Yeah, exactly. This is probably why I've ended up in this >> nightmare on Elm Street. Ramsey Street.
>> It's a nightmare on Ramsey Street.
>> So what? Your parents thought it was what? Two cuz >> they they kind of thought like, "Oh, don't get influenced by this sort of t of like neighbors fighting and all." I don't know. I had a very strange childhood, Ian. We can get into it.
Yeah, we can get into it.
>> I quite like that.
>> Another.
>> So, are there other cultural things you don't know about from your own country?
There's so I didn't even know the capital of Tasmania, >> which is >> Hobart, but I said L Hobart, but it's meant to be >> Lawncest.
>> I thought it was Hobart.
>> Yeah, I I think it's Hobart.
>> Didn't you just say Tobart?
>> Toart. Toart.
>> You did just say Tobeart.
>> Did I just say toart? Message in if I said toart.
>> Okay. Um, Skippy was a >> kangaroo.
>> Bluey.
>> Joey.
Bluey is a dog.
>> Wait, what?
>> Think of Australian stuff. Skip is a kangaroo. Blue is a dog. Ralph Harris is a pedophile. Right. These just follow on. You just know this stuff. Everybody should know this stuff. Have you ever heard of Home and Away?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Prisoner?
>> No.
>> No.
>> The Sullivan. Have you heard of the Sullivans?
>> No.
>> Bloody hell.
>> We've imported I've got a fake Australian in the studio.
>> Yeah, I think I am. I think you've actually this is the biggest piece of investigative journalism.
There's you investigating people who shouldn't be here >> and we've rumbled Samara.
>> I think you should be an immigration officer.
>> I should be. Yeah. You ain't coming anywhere near. You shouldn't be allowed back in Australia, frankly. You'll be like completely rudderless.
>> Ian Collins deports Samara Gill. I like that.
>> She didn't know that Skippy was a kangaroo.
>> That is pretty. I think I should be put to death for that to be honest.
>> Skip, Do you ever meet Skippy?
>> Uh, did I ever? I've met many kangaroos and I've had many violent encounters with them. So, don't you worry. But yeah, Blueie, we have a red dog, but we don't have Bluey. I think this is another This is a falsity.
>> Blue, very briefly, Sam, Blue is a dog, right? It's a kids cartoon. I think the BBC bought it from ABC or something mad like that. And actually, ABC didn't really charge them very much money and could have made an absolute fortune.
Now, the BBC have made millions out of it.
>> Correct.
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