This video demonstrates that complex community dynamics require nuanced analysis rather than oversimplified explanations. Using the Cheyenne Bryant controversy as a case study, Dr. DAW applies psychosocial theory to examine how credential politics, professional ethics, gendered expectations, and community accountability interact. The analysis reveals that professional responses to perceived fraud are often grounded in ethical training and professional standards rather than simple 'hating,' and that reducing complex situations to surface-level judgments like 'pretty privilege' or 'hating' oversimplifies the deeper communal issues at play.
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And when it falsifies their consciousness, it recruits those of its people into its criminality.
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Um and uh we'll get back on track. So uh let me know, put a one in the chat if you can hear me now. All right, family.
I thank you for all of that. Um, so again, I was starting off by saying uh welcome uh to this broadcast and I'm just going to kind of truncate what I said. But again, today's discussion is are the sisters hating on Cheyenne Bryant? Is it really that simple? And again, and I want I'm just going to read what I have here to kind of set up the conversation here.
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So I put here after sitting with this situation, I'm talking about this cyan Bryant thing because a lot has been going on. A a lot has been said, there's a lot of misinformation happening out here.
There's so much stuff that is wrong out here. But again, as I was saying earlier before when I was muted, when I come before you, please note that you may not like how I say a thing or I might not choose the words or maybe I choose the words to fit you. Whatever it is, my goal is to unify or bring unity to the black community. And again, I call this conversations with Dr. Dah because what I notice is that we struggle with communication. It's not just in our intimate relationships.
It's not just in our romantic relationships.
the conversation problem or the or the this is the due to a lack of skill, emotional regulation and all types of things.
But if we are to win, if we are to heal as a collective and individuals, we must hone in the ability to communicate.
And if we don't learn how to communicate, any form of communication or perspective or difference of opinion begins to feel like an argument. Yeah. And a lots of us struggle with that. And I'll be honest, a lot of us, male, female, whoever, we struggle with communicating when the person is sharing their perspective. And I've even been looking at this Cheyenne Bryant character, this this sister, and I and I I've been studying it a little bit more recently because I only used to see I was introduced to her by way of a few clips, which were pretty impressive to some degree, but after looking at more footage and how she engages with others in more long form content.
It is clear that she can dish it well.
She can dish it well. She can read you.
Um she can read you and she can give it, but she struggles with taking it. And in fact, after looking at much of what's going on, she's stumbling up upon her words.
She's lost. She's actually disclosing things. The very things that she's fighting and arguing against, she is participating in to a great degree.
So, I want to explore this idea again.
other sisters hating on Cheyenne Bryant.
And we can add the brothers in there, too.
But again, are the sisters hating on Cheyenne Bryant? Is it really that simple?
And I think this what what I'm speaking to is not just about Cheyenne Bryant.
The the words of people hating if they point out things is part of a greater and larger conversation that goes on in our community quite too often.
This is not a gossip show. The effort here is to analyze larger patterns of harm, confusion, projection, beauty politics, credential politics, and communal fragmentation.
There are figures who function as major funnels of confusion and harm in the community.
And while Bryant is still emerging in some ways, there are frightening similarities between her, her style, her movement, and those of others that I spoke to many years ago that are very similar to those of like a Umar Johnson. I know don't come for me too fam fast family but when I have studied a bit more of Cheyenne Bryant to me she is the feminine counterpart I'm talking about in style in grace and articulation and the leveraging of credentials as Umar Johnson. Now the difference I would say is Umar for the most part for my understanding I've never challenged his credentials.
Now how he uses them that is something different and we'll talk about that too. how he uses or how he articulates them or how he manipulates the way that he articulates himself as a doctor of psychology.
Who does that?
And who who who do you see imitating that?
A doctor of PSYCHOLOGY. NOW, THE FIRST PERSON I HEARD SAY I'm a doctor of psychology was Umar Johnson. Now I hear Cheyenne Bryant saying the same thing and they and that's very intentional. So you have to also know that the dear sister was studying and she knew and she knows from this is just a conceptualization I could be wrong that Umar came under scrutiny about his own degrees.
people challenge Umar and say he didn't have any degrees.
I think and I and I could be wrong again is that what she did is say how did Umar respond?
And if we have to be really honest, Umar responded very similarly.
So Cheyenne Bryant said, "Okay, I'mma take a page out of Uma's book. I don't have to prove anything to anybody."
Cheyenne Bryant SAID, "I DON'T HAVE TO prove anything to anybody.
It's between me and the creator, God, or whatever."
Um very similarly says he doesn't have to prove anything to anyone.
And that's what has happened. Now, I've never ever really in a in a real strong way thought that Umar didn't have the degrees.
Now, was what I could tell he didn't have a license just by the way he utilizes words and the way he promotes himself. Now to the general public that is very it's very easy to get confused and even to those of us who are operating in the fields and to in the field psychotherapy mental health psychology counseling social work clinical social work we often can get confused because I I watched some some interviews as of as of late. I mean, some shows and and and and there's other professionals who are maybe they're just being uh less less opinionated about certain things, but it's very clear that if you went to Argusy University that Cheyenne Bryant is not being clean in a lot of things. And what do I mean by that?
one, she was in the counseling of psychology program, counseling psychology program, I mean, so again, her degree would not even like like she's taking a page out of Umar Johnson's textbook.
But the reality is Umar's degree probably does say doctorate of psychology because he has a side or doctorate of clinical psychology. And that is why he goes around and say I'm a doctor of clinical psychology or doctor of psychology. Now, Cheyenne Bryan is saying the same thing. I'm a doctorate of a I'm sorry. I'm a doctor. This is how they say it. I'm a doctor of clinical psychology or a doctor of psychology or what have you.
Now, the difference is that is what is probably on Umar's degree. Doc, it probably says doctorate of psychology, but hers, I promise you, if she does have the degree, it doesn't say that because I know several people who've gone through that counseling psychology program that are very profound counselors.
that and their credentials behind their names is edd.
So if she was to follow Umar's suit, she would had to say doctor of education like so that doesn't really do the work.
So now she says I have I have a I'm a doctor of psychology.
So it typically people don't do that.
Like for example I have a PhD. So how would it sound if I go around I'm telling you I'm a doctor of philosophy or if I or if someone who has a medical degree they say I'm a doctor of medicine. No you you you your your antenna should go up. So this is education, fam. People don't go around saying, "I'm a doctor of juristp prudence.
I'm a doctor of jurist prudence."
They don't go around saying, "I'm a doctor." Look, and guess what? This again, this is not about white men degrees and all these type of things. And why y'all worried about it?
Look, the the the thing is if I came on came on here and lied to you, the same ones who say that we shouldn't worry about these other people lying, they will hold me accountable.
And I expect you to do that. You know what I mean? I expect you to do that.
But let's get into this.
So, so what I want to say is there's a lot going on.
There's this thing called pretty privilege that people are talking about and I and I want to speak to all. I'mma put my notes down.
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Right.
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So family, that was me again being the graduate speaker because I graduated my PhD and the young lady who closed out was actually the valor Victorian of the undergrad class.
So again allow allowed it to play fully through. You saw that is on Waysber's page, not my page. I didn't create that video.
I think it's a very nice video um at a very white institution. You see, and now the thing is, yeah, I went to a white institution. I think the the difference is I started off with a very black black institution strategically and specifically African Senate institution in SJ Douglas College.
Now, I ended up at Wingsburg. I gave y'all the story. I gave y'all a story via Argusy.
Now, the thing is, I'm very clear that these institutions are pretty white regardless, even these H.B.CU that we hold. Let's get into some of what I want to show you today.
So, there's this conversation that's going on in our community about Cheyenne Bryant. This is a Substack of a person that I've come across as a result of someone sharing. You know what?
Someone sharing something on Instagram.
I mean, no know what it is on on Facebook yesterday.
And they shared it. Basically, what they shared was this idea. I'm going see if I can pull it up really quickly. They they shared it saying that people are just kind of like hating on Cheyenne.
And um and to me, so I asked the question, are the sisters hating on Cheyenne Bryant? Is it just that simple? Is it just that simple that people are just hating on Cheyenne Bryant? And um I'll let you know my thoughts upfront. I think that's absolutely not the case. I think that maybe there's some people who are, but the reality is to minimize it, to flatten it is just that is irresponsible.
And I know we like to see us win and I get it. But the reality is what's going on with Cheyenne Bryant has a lot more to do with than people just hating on her. So let's get to it.
So she says, "I've been I've I've been sitting back quietly observing this whole Cheyenne Bryant situation, wondering how long it was going to last.
To my surprise, this conversation is still in heavy rotation. This sister is Natasha Washington. She has a Substack.
you you know go check out I and and just to be honest I I think that this sister does make some points to consider but I also think there's a there's some error in her articulation or conceptualization of this concern with Cheyenne Bryant.
I I think that she's talking about shadow work a lot, right? So, she calls herself the shadow work. She says the shadow work you didn't know you needed.
So, again, and she's also claiming that people are taking advantage of this opportunity just to get clicks and views just to bury another sister. And that and that's I think that's what the post said that I found on Facebook. It said they're just trying to bury another sister. But again, she's speaking to this and she's also speaking to it on her professional page which will bring attention.
So the shadow work you didn't know you needed. I think that's the subtitle.
The anatomy of the fall. The shadow work you didn't the shadow work you didn't know you needed. She says, "I've been sitting back quietly observing the whole Cheyenne Bryant situation, wondering how long it was going to last."
To my surprise, this conversation is still in heavy rotation. Now, and I will preface this with my purpose for writing this article is to look at all angles with no assignment of right or wrong to any side.
Now, you would be the judge of that. She says, "I think this is important because people are attempting to try to make this a black and white situation when it is not." I agree with her on that. I do.
And I've actually talked about that on my own show. I talked about how, you know, it's is is more complex than what people are saying, you know, with with Cheyenne Bryant. And and there's some truth that Cheyenne Bryant has articulated that people aren't really being totally honest about, you know, I mean, not I'm not even going to say not totally honest about, they're just overlooking.
You know what I mean? We're overlooking.
And I know and I for many reasons though and and and I'll tell you some of the reasons why and I'll show you later. And I and I'll add that a lot of it has to do with training. We could never just dismiss the training that people undergo as a result of the processes they've been through. Some people, it's a v variety of reasons, but I think that to flatten it as just black and white, I agree with this sister here. So, let's start with Dr. Cheyenne Bryant. She says the issue that I'm seeing is that she wasn't entirely wrong in what she said about not l not being licensed and that is what people are having difficulty accepting.
Alongside there being lots of inconsistencies in her stories, things can be easily verified as well. But the primary thing is what she said about not being licensed. Now it's so so so the thing is I think what she what I think what she's doing here right now is sharing with you what is primary to her.
See people are looking things in different ways. So I I just want you to consider that like she is saying that the primary thing is about her not being licensed. Now I I don't necessarily know if I don't even know if I agree with that. Now, it's May this is on May the 13th. I'm trying to figure out was is this after or before she came out and people started challenging her whether or not she had a doctoral degree.
This is on the 13th. So I think this is after Yes, this is Yeah, cuz last week I did a show on this and so this is so this is after Cheyenne Bryant doctor do doctorate degree or some people people are making jokes saying doctoral we all can mess up words y'all you know so she's saying so she is saying again The primary problem is her not being licensed. And I think it's bigger than that.
Was her reasoning controversial? Yes.
This is what the sister says. Was it incomplete? Yes. Was it wrong? No. Now, I agree with the sister. If the only issue that we're talking about and is with where she wants to place emphasis, if where she wants to place emphasis is if that was the concern, then yeah, I would agree with her. But there's a there's a ignoring a greater issue here that people are merely trying to confirm whether or not she has earned what she says she's earned as a doctric as a doctoral level practitioner. I'm I'm look look man I'm messing with the word. So just because it wasn't all the way right, she says, doesn't make her point or experience less valid. And that is what people are actually struggling with.
Her doing things the wrong way, speaking on it, how going against everything they've been taught still worked out in the end.
No, no, no. You know what? I gotta go. I gotta find that post, y'all. Hold on. I have to find that post from yesterday because it was so major to this conversation. And um and and and and basically it I have to find it because I I got to show you what's really what what what led me to say, okay, let me just pull this trigger because I think it's very problematic in how we are treating this, right? And let me see if I can find it for you all.
Um, family, make sure you like this video, share this video. I But yeah, I definitely Okay, here you go. Here.
Here. Here it is. And I'll go and I'll look it up right here.
Okay, I I I found it. Now, let me see if I can put this down and I'll put this up. Let's see where it is.
Okay, now this person post a lot of things, but let's see. Here it is.
Here it is. Okay, now this is an uh Oh, I guess we're I'm going to cut her, you know. Okay, I guess I can't. Okay, I'll show it. But nonetheless, this what I want to show.
So, this post I saw across my thread yesterday and it says here, Dr. Cheyenne Bryant, it says Dr. Cheyant Bryant represents everything people were taught was wrong way to do things and she's still more successful. She is still more successful and wellknown than them from that from from what I've witnessed. That's the issue watching the person who didn't who did it wrong win.
So, I think there's just so much wrong with this, right?
I think there's just so much wrong with this. Like, so the the dear sister saying Dr. Cheyenne Bryant represents everything people were taught was the wrong way to do things and she is still more successful and well known than them.
See, that's a See, that's part of the problem.
that I have with the way that we conceptualize these things. So again, this is a very she's using the article and the one that I'm reading now which is titled the Cheyenne Bryant Dr. Cheyenne Bryant and the anatomy of a fall. Now don't get me because I'm saying Dr. Cheyenne Bryant because these people are still calling her doctor and I'm reading it and I might even slip myself at times and call her doctor. Um, but she does have a doctorate of um perhaps letters or something like that.
Honorary a few honorary ones. She I would I imagine she does have those. So, let's go with that.
So, again, Dr. Cheyenne Bryant represents everything people were taught was the wrong way to do things. and she is still more successful and well known than them. Is that again how we measure success?
See, again, we measure success. We've been taught to measure success through popularity.
And that is a major issue in our community. See, now I look see this is not about Dr. Cheyenne Bryant.
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant just happens to be a case study, an example of how we begin to misconceptualize from my standpoint things and how we will protect people as if wrong even is right. Because it's even said here, now I get it. Perhaps what she's saying is she didn't take the traditional route. Maybe. I don't know.
Maybe she's saying that she's doing it her own way.
And so I'm trying to look at both sides here. And I think that perhaps that's what she's saying hopefully. But Dr. Cheyenne Bryant represents everything people were taught was the wrong way to do things. She is still more successful and well-known than them, she says.
So that's the that's what makes someone successful. what I've what I've witnessed, she says, from what I've witnessed, that's the issue. And again, that that that that is that is simple simple and simplistic and I I would add illogical.
Now, if you said that some people feel that way, I would say yes. But now to speak to most of the clinician sisters again, I I I I don't know if I can really buy that. And I'll show you a little later why I'm saying this. Like, so again, are the sisters hating on Cheyenne Bryant? Is it really that simple? This is a dar down, a breakdown.
So that's what I long for content, long form breakdowns. We don't do easy work over here. we dig into it and we talk about it together. Now, if somebody wants to come in, you can all also come in as I do this, but you can't um you know, you can't, you know, only a few minutes at a time because I got to get through it. You know what I mean? So, so the dead sister says again, was her reasoning controversial? Yes.
Was it incomplete? Yes. Was it wrong?
No. And again, that's if you're only focusing on the fact that she doesn't have a license.
But again, that's a that's kind of like a misdirection when we're when we're also questioning whether or not this we're questioning whether or not this sister actually is a has a doctoral degree or she's a doctor. You know what I mean?
That's an issue. So, this is deflection.
This is misdirection. This is someone trying to take you off of the main issue that people are having.
People aren't just saying, "Well, she doesn't have a license." And you know, and and and and that. Now, I I too agree with if if to that degree, I I I do agree with the system. If it was just that, we can be real honest, as I said on my show last week, that lots of people do get they don't care about much more than getting licensed.
Now, let me not say that. But a major reason why they get licensed, let me say it like that, is because they want to build insurance.
Because the reality is a lot of people don't want to be they don't want any regulation. Like who wants regulation?
You mean like I want regulation for us.
I'm talking about our own community. I'm talking about our own way, our own indigenous ways of doing things. I'm talking about we need to regulate our own even if it's not the ACA or the APA or all the rest of these organizations that have code of conducts which we'll get to later.
We need to have our own code of conduct in these different disciplines that we serve in.
So again as I said Dr. Cheyenne Bryant or Cheyenne Bryant wasn't totally wrong as the sister said here. However, can we flatten this to sisters just hating?
I say no. And I'll show you why.
But is this sister wrong completely? I say no. But there seems to be she see no for me from what I've read I'll tell you she seems to be doing the same thing that she's arguing that they're doing.
She seems to be looking at it although she's very crafty in her articulation.
I'm talking about this sister here quite like Dr. Cheyenne Bryant. She'll say I never said that but she knows what's her she know what her aim is. She know what her aim is. But let's let's get through it.
Now she goes in on on on people.
She said her doing things wrong.
Her doing things the wrong way, speaking on it, and how going against everything they've been taught still worked out in the end.
All she did was speak on her experience and what works for her and the world is in an uproar and true human fashion. The goal is to dismantle her. Now, let me be let me let me take something in consideration.
Maybe this sister was publishing this article and she was just speaking about the license.
Maybe when she dropped this, she hadn't seen the latest uproar about her doctoral degree because the day she published this, it was at least perhaps a 24-hour period.
I don't know when she published it, but I do know that it at least I had about a day or two before I even touched it.
And I on the same day dropped my first video about uh uh this situation on Wednesday as well of last week like as she did this article.
Now all of the sudden syndrome this is how she this the sister has you know she labeled it all of a sudden syndrome.
Now she says, "When I graduated grad school in 2008, we didn't even know what lure was or that we even needed it or why we would need it.
When we finally got introduced to it, it was labeled as an important as important because it was the way to get paid hire by jobs, hired by jobs, I guess she's saying here, and to eventually work independently.
That was it.
Now, I don't know what state this sister is in, but different states offered lure and I'm I'm thinking this sister is probably a licensed professional counselor or something like that or was one or something like that. I don't I don't know if she makes it clear, but maybe in her state lure wasn't widely available. It was more of a new phenomenon when she um was in grad school. But this is not the case for lots of people. In fact, I think uh one of my professors was the first person persons to actually get licensed here.
She was the first person. So, she's like 001 or something like that. Dr. Sharon Chestn, really respected counselor um um psychotherapist, counselor educator um out of Lyola. You can look her up.
She she's very respected um for her ways paradigm. But nonetheless, she says now all of a sudden it's a protective measure but in place to protect the clients and foster a sense of safety and accountability.
I have all of a sudden in quotes because I am referring to this collective outrage because let's be real.
Let's not act like clients protection and clinician accountability have been at the forefront of the reasons to get licensed. It has not. It has not. It has been money and being able to work on your own. And for many I would agree with this sister that for many people that is the primary reason why people get licensed that I I would agree with her but again I don't think you know and she's saying she's just trying to she's being I guess she's given another side or a different perspective or what have you like that but I think it's clear even from the onset that what her goal is here and what side if you if I if I could say that that she's kind of leaning towards although she's offering somewhat of a more nuanced perspective there seems to be some leanings here she says people have been getting licensed forever that's no secret but one thing people have not been discussing on a larger scale is why if lenture has ever been important enough to put out on the front end, then why is it now all of a sudden worthy of the spotlight?
If lure hasn't been hasn't ever been important enough to put out on the front end, then why is it now all of a sudden worthy of the spotlight?
Why not keep it on the back end? Like where the letters behind your name exist on a surface level, lure has always been for decoration.
another list of letters to add behind the name for clout and money. Now, I'm not see I'm not sure if I I don't know if I agree with that. Like, I mean, in fact, it sounds like she's given a variety of reasons.
Now, outside of I think she started off with the reason why people got licensed so they can get paid and uh higher employment. Now, she's saying is about clout. So, I mean, like she's given a multiplicity of reasons, but I I also think it's kind of if if we really had to be honest, maybe that's why she became licensed.
But there's because there's people within the field who fought for regulation of the field. Quite like I'm saying, we need to regulate our African Senate, our indigenous and black ways of working with our people. If we say we're gonna do it our way, I get it. I'm not bugging. But what I'm saying is we we have to do better regulation. If we're going to do it indigenous ways, we have to somehow regulate these the these these ways in a way that people aren't harmed. So I I can't really even now now like reflect on this a bit and this dialogue that I'm having with myself in this article is that there weren't people also fighting for lure who also were fighting for the very fact that we needed to have accountability because I'm saying that everything that we're doing as black professionals, if it's outside of this society's way of being or we're doing it our way, we still have to have measures of accountability.
So now, for me, it would be very essential that we hold each other accountable. I talk about it every day and I think that's a major issue in our communities, in a lot of our movements.
And maybe that's part of my training has me looking at it that way. Looking at it that way. Now, let me let me back up now. It's probably it was probably before training, but my training actually and we have to be clear that and I'm going to show you the training that you go through and maybe I don't I don't I know that was a code of conduct when she was in school under her profession.
So we we're trained to respond in some of these ways. I want to say we're trained. The sisters who are responding are also trained, highly trained. It's kind of beaten to you.
Anybody know who has any form of license?
If you're a realtor, if you are a barber, if you are a car salesman, that a major aspect and component of that license is they teach they're going to push ethics and code of conduct and it's beat into you.
So, I I I think I was I'm flawing with my sister here, but I think that to some degree, she's not totally sharing with you what actually is going on.
Because yeah, there might be some who just want the loot, the money, the moola, but definitely there are people who fought for lure not only because of the money but also for the regulation of the field.
So again she says on a surface level lure has always been about been for decoration. Now some people don't even put letters behind their names. I'm saying like some fields.
Another I'll give you an example. Most psychologists you don't even see put past their degree. another list of letters to add behind the name for clout and money.
Now, in the field of counseling, um, and I'll be honest, some people got like 50 letters. I mean, they got like 50 sets of credentials behind them. I'm like, whoa, that's overkill, buddy.
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant came in and shook the foundation of the illusion people created for themselves.
She has shown everyone that she can do what they do and better in terms of status and money. And that is what's pissing people off. You see what I'm saying? Like is that I mean, do we flatten it just to that?
Do we flatten it to that the idea that people are upset merely because she has out like nobody knows how much money she's making?
Like really nobody knows how much money Dr. Cheyenne or Cheyenne Bryant is making and you don't know how many professionals out here like like like we don't know what she's making. We do know that she's popular.
But I think that's a flattening of what's really going on. Like she says she's going to bring the nuance, but I I there's a flattening and a leaning that I see here. Now she says, "Now here it comes.
The mob. There's only one person that I've seen explain why what Dr. Cheyenne Bryant said was harmful in the same way that she explains everything that she teaches. That is Dr. Rockwell Rock Raquel Martin PhD. See Dr. Raquel Martin has a PhD.
That does not speak to her lure. So she even puts it here. See what I'm saying?
She doesn't have anything else behind the PhD.
Her perspective I can respect because she is truly educating. Everyone else that I've seen is at least she's clarifying that she's seen is using this as an opportunity to shine.
Not her, but everybody else.
Not to educate, but a way to tear someone down to bring themselves up.
like is that's really what's going on when you see our sisters out here and I'm saying sisters for the most part because there's been a lot of these ideas around pretty privilege and pretty what is it pretty privilege and pretty punishment and I'll speak to that again I don't like the terms I don't like I don't like the term I think that I I struggle with terms of victimhood I I struggle with terms that have people make their like she's pretty and again so if she's pretty and she gets this what are you saying about yourself? I mean I I you know I struggle with typically those type of framings. I struggle with um the the the simplicity of any type of model and I and I see a lot of people who really misutilize intersectionality and I don't even think it's spelled out well enough to utilize it correctly. But for fairness, Dr. Krenshaw or Kimley Krenshaw started out with something very different than how it's being utilized today. And I speak about this the the struggle I have with intersectionality and the flattening of it and the over you the the simplicity and flattening of complex things like the fact that even Cheyenne Bryant is where she is because of the way she looks is a flattening. I think that I mean that that that sounds good, right?
And I and I I've heard some sisters say that, but again, I saw one sister literally like say, "Yeah, she has pretty privilege or something." And she and she did her best job to utilize her own pretty privilege.
And people was like, "Well, you're gorgeous yourself." You know what I mean? So, but I think that to flatten it as pretty privilege is not really looking at this dynamic of her personality. Not looking at her the school the tools and the skill sets that she's used. It's not looking at the manipulation or the the uh the the deflecting. It's not looking at the it's not looking at the skill set.
It's not looking at the skill set because you don't have to be that pretty if you're deceptive.
Now, pretty for all intens intents and purposes is a tool that can be utilized and is a tool that most of y'all utilize.
I'm talking about whatever version of pretty you are or whatever version of handsome you are.
You know what I mean? Like like but it's not even about the pretty privilege.
It's about what is she doing and how is she using it. There's too many pretty and handsome people out here that are doing things above board.
So again, I and and I struggle with this idea just like I struggle with the idea that black men are somehow flattened to be these patriarchal figures that that now there's pretty women privilege and we're looking at it through a similar frame that we use to identify structural inequality, structural injustice, structural oppression.
See, I think we have to really think about that a bit. I mean, I know it's not popular for even in our training, but again, see, you would see that to me, it's not about male, female, feminist, not this, not that. It's really about weaponizing your victimhood because now it's such a weaponization going on within the community that one side is saying pretty privilege and now the other side who is also equally skilled at victim politics is saying pretty punishment.
I don't think that works. You know what I mean?
I don't think it works. I know it doesn't work and I think it's very there's a flattening and lack of the complexity that we're dealing with. So again, are the sisters hating on Cheyenne Bryant? Is it really that simple? Dr. Dah and Gia breakdown.
So she goes on again and says that that it is the wound that Dr. Cheyenne Bryant is bringing out of people.
This is why you see Dr. Martin providing education and everyone else providing opinions. Like so everyone else I know the disclaimer was here that everyone I've seen that you know there's plenty of people that are that are actually providing education.
All you had to like before you wrote the article, I think you you could have gone and done some more research. There's too many sisters out here whether you agree with their ideological framework or not. And I and I hear in your work some of the differences she has from some other sisters. I'm talking about this sister here. Um what is her name?
The shadow work sister.
Let me go. Her name is Natasha Washington. She wrote this article May the 13th, 2026. Or at least she published it May the 13, 2026.
So let's see here. Divine dive into the shadows. So this is what she's going she's going to dive into the shadows. So I think she's if and I could be wrong, but I think that from what what I pick up from some other posts that she's written that she used to be a clinician.
I don't know. And now she's more into shadow work somehow. I don't know how to put the pieces together. I haven't looked that far.
And I'm not saying that this sister doesn't have some level of some some really good points because I think that we have to really hear each other. We need to hear all the sides.
This sister definitely makes some good points, but she also seems to be she she's talking about the blind spots, but her blind spots are very evident as well and her leanings are evident from my perspective.
So, somebody put in the conscious block said, "I'm not surprised by the Substack post.
Paul Pierce said something along the line too a few days ago. Yeah, I heard Paul Pierce. I was like, and the way that I I looked at that interview and that's really one of the interviews that I looked at that had me kind of say, "Wow, man. This is crazy." Like, I'm not his response to everybody. He feels like people are coming out on Dr. or or Cheyenne Bryant. I mean, Cheyenne Bryant and he kind of went into this protective mode or something. I can't remember it verbatim, but I it was like that that is a really uninformed or really dismissive way of really looking at the complexity here.
And again, this sister is going to go into some things that in her substack that I that I think that um we can consider, but also I think that is very very off in wigs as in the way that maybe this serves for some people, but there's a flattening of it when she utilizes this and she's not considering the many other reasons why people are responding other than them being jealous pretty much hating um uh uh you know uh jealous of her um accomplishments in spite of the lure or the degree overlooking or not tending to the idea that she's lied and said she had a degree overlooking that these other sisters have and I'm saying sisters in this case that that they have fought hard and worked hard and some of them had children and I mean and and and and work through the process and and and and and deaths and loss, life coming into people coming to life and death happening and still pushing their way through to get these degrees.
I mean, as a professor, I've you you have to deal and you deal and you work with people who are working really hard, working at that working full-time jobs, coming to school, being there all night, turning in projects in multiple classes, having to tend to their children, their significant others, so on and so forth.
And there's a lot that goes on there.
having to get feedback from your professor, having to be challenged in class, having to sit through clinicals, and having to sit through your peers observing your clinical work and giving you feedback that might not even feel that great. So to flatten it as other sisters hating on Cheyenne Bryant, I think is a major error. And if you're offering up another perspective and in in in a more complex perspective, I think that my dear sister has failed here.
I and I'm not saying though that some of the things she's saying is not worth some consideration because it there is things to consider in her in her article but it's from my standpoint just way too simplistic.
Um conscious block goes on to say two things can be true. There's genuine accountability and a degree of hate because she reinforced the whole pretty privilege cliche.
Yeah. I mean, I get it. I don't necessarily like the terminology. I mean, it's kind of like I'm I'm white.
I'm black, so I'm oppressed. And he's white, so he's privileged. I think that's clear. But I mean, but at the same time, I I can't stop there. And um and that's a structure. That's on a structural level. But the pretty privilege, we we have to know how far that thing can go. In fact, so that's pretty and then there's ugly. Is that how we do it? Like I I to me, I don't like it. I think we have to come up with some other terms. Um and I'm not saying that you disagree with that conscious block. I'm just it's just something about the cliche that I I just don't really um like and I think we need to do something else for our community. Nobody is hating. She is lying. Miss me 3916 says um it's called backlash for lying and impersonating. Absolutely. And I and I guess she I'm telling you I'm almost convinced she went she studied Umar Johnson and started using similar titles. I'm the doctor of psychology.
Who is that? Who who's a doctor of psychology? Who uses those terms? And Umar said, "I ain't showing you nothing.
I don't have to show nobody nothing."
You know what I mean? I don't think Umar till to this day date has shown anybody anything. But the difference is I think people were able to verify that he actually has a doctoral degree.
But with her in the in the in the in the mistake she made was to say, "Oh, the oh, all the records are wiped out." You know, like what?
Like she didn't study Umar enough. Umar never said anything like that.
You know what I mean? Like like all the records are wiped out. I can't get my transcripts. And somehow this school and then it has people looking at the the school more sideways than it deserves to be looked at to be honest with you. People are saying, "Oh, the school is uncreditred. It's not a good, you know, people are these fake psychologists and counselors." And so no, who you better check a lot of people went to Argusy University. I'm gonna have um coming up soon the the the um president of the um black association of black national association of black counselors coming on Dr. Nick Battle who is the president of a very strong and growing association and he's doing phen phenomenal work with this association and um he he's also an Argusy graduate.
So I'm going to have him come on and explain some things.
Um there's so many people that I know who graduated from Argusy that are phenomenal. I'm talking about throughout this whole Mid-Atlantic region.
Um, and you know, and and and again, someone was like, why would they go there? Like for example, I know people who went to Howard University, who went to um um John's Hopkins, Lyola, um uh Buoie, Buoie State University, and they went there because one thing there's just to know there's few programs that actually have doctoral level um um um programs especially like in fields of certain fields, certain um disciplines in the mental health realm. So like for example, Hopkins has a and I and I so I was a teacher assistant at Hopkins and that's another thing like you know I think even Hold up was that it no no that wasn't it. So but I was a teacher assistance assistant at Hopkins when I was at Wesburg. So I was teaching classes at Hopkins with Dr. Rigio um um at Hopkins there's so many people that from this school that are teaching at different places like even Dr. Battle teaches at Hopkins so is so what I'm saying what am I really saying here so if the education was so subpar and he wasn't qualified and I know you would really appreciate something like a Hopkins but Dr. Battle literally graduated from Argusy and he teaches at Hopkins. But you would you would say, well, wow, Mr. Dr. Battle, uh, you went to this school that closed down and say it was it's a bad you didn't learn anything. This is how people are trying to flatten it, but he's teaching at a school that you would highly respect as a top university.
So again, students came from all these programs, went there. It's it's not that simple. People are making things simple.
And again, and let's be clear, lots of people who they had master degrees before they even went to these program that this program and to be a clinician, you don't need to have a doctorate level degree in most fields unless you are talking about psychology and you they do have master levels in some to some degree, but psychiatry which is a ma which is a MD.
So to flatten it as that simple is problematic.
So So again, Miss Me said it's called black backlash for lying and impersonating.
And people came out on Umar Johnson, right?
This sister to me seems like she studied Umar, you know what I mean? And then and then worked it with her femininity, right?
Umar works it with his masculinity. She works it with her femininity.
I promise you she will probably call herself a alpha female. I haven't studied enough. She will probably call herself a alpha female.
And people are saying things like what has she done?
Again, when we when we understand personality, we understand that what's in the dark will come out in the light like this.
Yeah, that's right. A doctor of psychology is a side ID. So, she's calling herself a doctor of psychology.
But anyway, no one says doctor of psychology, though. That's like no one no one like I'm a doctor of psych like like go. No, I'm I'm a psychologist.
That's what they say or you know like like Umar and what's this sister name? Um Cheyenne Bryant. Cheyenne Bryan is saying that she has a degree from Argusy University and the counseling psychology program again which is a ed. But she would have to call herself a doctor of education.
You know what I mean? That's what she would have to do. See, no one does that.
Like I have a PhD. If I was to utilize that, I would say I'm a doctor of philosophy. Like like who does that?
Nobody. You know, so Will Red 73 says, "Sounds like P. Paul Pierce was and is satisfied with her services." Just speculating.
I never I don't even know Paul Pierce like that. I know he's a basketball player or used to be a basketball player like that now, but he was actually, if you look at the the full show, the one that she went on, she could not do what she did to Nick Cannon, what she did with what's that guy's name? I didn't look at the full show, but the guy with the big hat. Um, he's a football player. Um, uh, what's his name? Y'all know his name. Um I think was the what's his name? Cam Newton. I'm sorry. Is that is that his name? I'm sorry. Look, y'all help me out. Yeah, I'm horrible. So, nonetheless, you know, um she she couldn't do that with Paul cuz Paul was like laidback. Oh yeah, Cam Newton. I got it y'all. He was laid back, you know what I mean? Like Yeah. So, u he was like real smooth with it, you know? He was like Paul was smooth with it. He was like nah. He's like, "So, um, I figured you out." Like, he was like, "You really, uh, I forgot where he say she from. You like you like you from Crrenshaw. You you real Krenshaw or something." I don't know where. I can't remember exactly where she's from, but he's like, "No, I see it."
But then he goes on to say, "Ah, no. Um, you know, um, he respects her and all that, but he he walked her down. She she couldn't do the same thing on his show."
again. Conscious block, thank you for the um for yeah uh for um the Cam Newton um piece. I appreciate it. That's actually So it says here, thank you uh Sher Coington um uh speaking to the analysis. I guess it's Sheree.
Um Conscious Black say a lot of people drank the Kool-Aid until when she shared her transcript story.
Ain't no way a school will offer a full cash refund in place of Let's talk about that because I keep hearing people say that but that is not okay with her case.
if she's telling the truth.
Um, okay.
She's I think she's conflating and bringing pieces together because people are people who are at Argusy and had classes. So, let's say I did I think I did like eight classes there, right?
So if I did eight classes there and I decided because of the distress of the school closing and what I had to go through to kind of transfer credits to another university and perhaps even lose those some credits in most cases. Let's be clear, there's only a certain amount of credits that you can transfer to another university um if you transfer from one graduate program to the next.
But due to Argusy being a ma they had been a major major like issue. I mean it was horrible because I can remember it. I was listening to some of the there's two sisters who did a show um two psychologist sisters who went to Argusy I think in the I think they said the Bay Area and what they said was really accurate and the same experience that happened at Argusy in the DC Northern Virginia area.
What happened was lots of students they told us see the school was private at one time it went public and then they were then it went back private with this dream center or something like that don't quote me but it's something like that I'm just going off the top of my head me what what I can remember but it's like the dream center so they were going back supposedly private being a private school but in the midst of that people noticed that they they weren't in their refund checks if I remember correctly and people start asking and and I and I heard the sister said the other day and I was like wow that's so reminiscent of that it brought it back to me that that is exactly what happened at the at the Northern Virginia DC campus people like yo you get your your refund check you get your refund check you get your refund what's going on and people start asking questions and so apparently what they did was take the refund checks to try to keep their ship above water um or something like that. And so what happened is that they said they were going to do teachout programs and which is typical for universities to close down. And that's another thing people say, "Oh, these universities don't close down." No, universities have closed down since they've been opening.
prestigious universities, middle ground, whatever. They've been opening and they've been closing and they have and and because they are accredited, they have a way that you actually are supposed to go through that process.
You're supposed to offer a teachout plan and all types of things where those who are in there, you're supposed to finish them. But Argusy didn't do that.
What they did do is just close after they said they wouldn't do that.
Now, in the midst of all of that chaos, they offered students the opportunity to forgo all of their credits.
Now, I want you to listen here. for those who who took like like me. I took eight classes there.
And if I just said, "F it. I don't want to do anything. I just want to operate where I am. I'm good. I'm not going to pursue this doctoral degree." I They would have said, "Look, they would have wiped my loans away if I would have relinquished my credits at Argus." I'm talking about the federal government. This is what the federal government did. were offered up to students because of the of the crisis, the trauma, the tragedy that happened at Argusy. That was one of the protective measures that they took.
Another thing they did, again, as I was saying earlier, typically if you graduate, if you transfer from one school to another, they will only take a certain amount of credits. So what happened with the APA's um program um in clinical psychology, the APA came out and said, "Look, APA is going to allow Argusy students to transfer into other APA programs and and I think I could be wrong, I can't remember, they can transfer into these programs with all their credits like they came out strong. Bam. This is what we going to do." So lots of people from Argusy uh Argusy's clinical mast's level clinical psychology program and I think doctoral level um clinical psych I'm sorry no not no all the APA programs because Argusy did have I think a program at the mast's level and also one which is a side at the doctoral level and what they and they and they were able to transfer to schools and one of the schools a lot of them went to was the school just kind of opened up in the area which was called which is called the Chicago school of um I think psychology.
Um there also Chicago school people transfer from Argusy to I mean the counseling programs to the Chicago school. It wasn't but the the the handoff in the counseling programs because counseling they got all these different bodies Krep and ACA and all these different moving pieces. So it wasn't as clean, but at some point afterwards, what they did was they they created a list of schools that would would accept the credits. Now, one of the problems when on the AC on on the ACA Krep side is that like for like it wasn't a clean handover. What they call it easy I forgot what they call it. Yel help me out with the word. It's like it wasn't this easy handover. Like for example, I I I went to Wesburg, right?
And I still had to do I had to do another application. Of course, I'm certain some of them had to do something as well. I had to do another I had to write another paper to uh to uh they they asked me if I had my um they wanted GRE scores and they they wanted things again, you know what I mean?
So, it wasn't is a it wasn't an easy process. You had to go through all that again in the midst of a school closing down on you. But people were going to like schools in Kentucky. It was like different schools people went to. Um and a lot of and a lot of a lot of us finished. Some people said they were so overwhelmed that they just shut down for a year. Like one of my colleagues um I won't say her name here. Um she just kind of shut down for a whole year and then she found out from another colleague that um we were at Wesburg and she came up to Wesburg.
So again, um, getting back to So yeah.
So again, so the I'm thinking that what Cheyenne Bryant I don't know, maybe she did go to Argusy and I don't know, but maybe she's or maybe she found out about this um this that that they did propose to students or offer up to students um financial to to um what is it called to to wipe their financial their financial aid um um um bills away for Argusy if they relinquish their credits. That that's a real fact. Now, is it true about her? I'm not sure.
Is it does it make some sense? It it it absolutely does.
Now, is she mixing? And see, they didn't offer again. So part of the lie is this.
Well, I don't know if it's a lie, but part of supposing it's a lie, which it seems like it is something if there's lies here or misinformation, something in her regard. I'm assuming lies, but she earned the degree. They were they wouldn't do that for people who earned the degree.
And again, as conscious block says, how about the dissertation part? And I agree, like she can literally go to her computer and pull her dissertation up.
And another some other misinformation people um are putting out there is that dissertations are all like that they're published. Not everybody publishes their dissertation.
Um I did publish mine. Um I published my dissertation. You can go and look it up.
It's called Measuring the Relationship of Race-based Trauma, Black Identity, and Spirituality. No, no, no, no. Let me back it up. That's the title. I thought I had is actually measuring the relationship of um um race-based trauma, racial identity and spirituality.
You can look that up. It's in ProQuest.
So again, um I do know other people who went to Argusy and went to that program who didn't publish their um their um their dissertation, but what Argusy did have, and I'm not sure if they still have it, um somewhere that you could find it in their own um records, like their own library. like I'm not sure if they kept some kind of archive for people to go and find it that way. Like for example, my dissertation is on the school's website at Wesburg and it's also um and it's also in ProQuest and you know you have to go and pay for ProQuest and you can get a bound version of it. you um like me, I I also paid additional money so they can be open to the public. So that's that's something to kind of know. I think part of explaining some of these things and the nuances because there's different fields here and there's different schools and there's different approaches and there's different there's a variety of ways that we um that things are handled. So just because one person's process was this way doesn't mean it's that all schools do the same process or that all people who have dissertations have published them. That that's not necessarily true. It's not true.
So okay um great question. Thank you for that. So let's get into what uh the sister says here for for you all who don't know. I am going over an article from Natasha Washington uh published May the 13th, 2026 in the middle of the controversy of Cheyenne Bryant.
Cheyenne Bryant being questioned about not only her lure but also her degree. So it says here, dive into the shadows. This is her article.
This is the close out. This is her great hurrah here. Let's see what she says. As someone who is who is a seer and specializes in shadow work.
Now I'm not I I tend to you know see this is one of the things like this word seer.
I'm not saying she's not a seer, but just my experience from my experience from my experience is that people who like I'm asking like what kind of right of passage that she's been through um what type of initiation she's been through, who is her counsel, her body, her elders. I'm not sure you know like who is regulating her form of seership and then also this and a lot of people become seers because I don't know I think that I think somewhere she said she used to be a counselor or something like that and sometimes people they don't want to be a part of what they feel are westernized ways of doing things and I and I agree with that and that's their that's their right and that's that that could be their political position and their political the way that they politically acted out what they believe isn't in accord with their values.
But again, it's just a when I see these type of things, sometimes it just it just gives me a red flag.
As someone who is a seer, she says, and specializes in shadow work, I want to offer some thoughtprovoking questions to help you navigate this distressing time.
I'm going to be honest. The way I see some of the behavior health professionals behaving is showing Oh, she was talking about the behavioral health professionals.
So, she wasn't just speaking about some of these random YouTubers or exclusively speaking about random YouTubers. She's speaking about a lot of the sisters or behavioral health professionals. And and we must be clear that uh behavioral health professionals are predominantly made up by women to a lesser degree black women and to a even a lesser degree black men.
So, so the way I see some of these behavioral behavior behavioral health professionals behaving is showing there are some inadequacies being triggered.
Let's get into it. So, again, she says she's going to show like she's going to bring some balance to the conversation. she's going to, you know, I guess have a more balanced perspective here. But again, I don't really see where she's being that balanced as of yet. Maybe it'll come up in this article and I haven't read these things completely through. I kind of perused them earlier, so I'm going through it with you as I speak. So again, she says, not again, but one, what specific quality did I attribute to Dr. Cheyenne Bryant that I feel I lack in myself?
And how does her perceived failure give me permission to continue neglecting that quality in my own life?
That's something to think about. What is she saying here, y'all?
What specific quality?
What specific quality did I attribute to Dr. Cheyenne Bryant that I feel I lack in myself?
See again that a lot of mental health professionals would say that's a leading question like and and I would and this is why they would say this is why regulation is necessary. This is why lure is necessary because she says what specific quality did I attribute to Dr. Cheyenne Bryant?
Let me see what time. Okay, I'm good.
What specific quality did I attribute to Dr. Cheyenne Bryant that I feel I lack in myself. That is saying that someone that is implying that one has attributed a quality or quality qualities to doctors or I mean to Cheyenne Bryant and they also lack it as a they feel like they lack that quality.
and how does her perceived failure give me permission to continue neglecting that quality in my own life. So it's saying that these sisters are reacting and I'm not saying perhaps says not a one but I I would argue that that is not the most I would argue that this is an oversimplification and I would think and I would say that although again she says she's giving a more nuanced and balanced perspective fact, this is this is her shadow work going wrong.
This is her shadow work going wrong.
If she had a license, she probably should get her license and go under supervision again because she's leading.
This is a very leading question. And maybe that's my my my training telling me like that's kind that's kind of like me saying what specific quality did I attribute to do like me asking a client. Let me see.
Okay. So I asked my client what specific quality just imagine me on the couch because this is what she's doing through her substack. She's providing her what she's calling shadow work her form of uh coaching or intervening in this matter.
So that's like me asking so what specific quality just imagine me talking to you for a minute. What specific quality did you attribute to Dr. Cheyenne Bryant that you feel you lack in yourself?
Just think about me asking you that question.
What specific quality did you attribute to Dr. Bryant that you feel you lack in yourself? I I so so and then so I asked you that question and so now there's some from my standpoint there is a there's some assumption here now and it's not to say you can't assume because you we we're conceptualizing things but we don't just ask you or or or act we don't ask things in ways where we lead the question we we we Ask questions to see if the cl if it will come out of the client because you don't have to lead the question because people will tell you.
You know what I mean? And maybe you could probably say, "Well, let me reflect what I think I'm seeing here."
Perhaps what I'm seeing.
So, all right. Lori, our Lori says charisma.
So, let's go on. So what specific qu So Lori said charisma.
So now the next part of the question is how does this perceived failure Lori give you permission to continue neglecting that quality in your own life?
Hey Lori, answer that one. Now hold up y'all. This is this is just this is a role play out her approach. This is not This is not clinical work. I'm saying this is I don't agree with this approach because it's opposing a thing because look, let's say charisma.
You don't have that quality. Let's say Lori said I don't have that quality. So now I say so you failed at that Lori.
How does that how does that perceive failure give you permission to continue neglecting that quality in your own life?
Let's think about that.
How's that land for you? Um Lori, how do you respond to that one? I don't know.
Now, is there people that perhaps fall within this conceptualization?
Yeah.
But is is this a flattening?
Like is this article does this article have leanings? Is it are these leading questions?
Is it really trying to explore like you can form a conceptualization but even in your conceptualization it's it's for you to explore the conceptualization not to lead and pin down the person. No, no, no. There's some techniques that you can do that to some degree, but that's not that typical. But what I'm saying here, this is an article and it's assuming that this person um again with Lori, she says charisma.
Now, now Lori responds now saying, "What do you say, Lori? Let's see what you got." Let's Let's see. Lori, thank you for participating, Lori.
Charisma.
I don't know. That picture look like charisma. Lori, you you just in the role play, right, Lori? Because that that picture looks like charisma.
The Lord says, "Not everyone has charisma or that ability to pull people in. I don't perceive that as a failure.
It is just it it just isn't the way I am.
I have other endearing qualities.
Boom.
Now, Lori, that's exactly my point.
That is a that is a bad question as a provider.
And now you're, you know, now we can make mistakes. You know, we we we sometimes ask questions that go go, you know what I mean? We're human, right?
But now the client has to tell you like, "Look, hold up."
Lori says she masks as well.
Yeah. You do you're doing a great job at masking, Lori, in this picture. Look at I mask. Well, it looks good. Look, I I'm I feel the pull. I failed the poll.
So, but nonetheless, let's go back into I I appreciate that. So, number two, which part of the scandal makes me most right mo which part of the scandal makes me the most righteous or angry? And where in my own history have I judged or have or have I judged in others for that exact same behavior?
Which part of this scandal makes me most righteous or angry? And where in my own history have I been judged or have I judged in others for that same? So it's assuming that this is a your your response is from some some history.
It's not even saying it's not even exploring. It's saying which part of this it's it's saying which part of the scandal makes you most righteous and where in your history have you been judged? Where have you been judged? And I'm not saying people don't do that that type of questioning at times. But there's a there's a deep assumption here. There's a deep implication here.
That's not what I do. I I don't do that.
I I'll find another way of asking that question. I'll ask the qu if I had to go that far, I would probably say, "Have you ever been judged?" It'll be more of a question. You know what I mean? I wouldn't say, "Where did it where where did that happen to you before?" Now, some people do that, but that's less typical. But in this she's writing and this so with this article the when you look at this is in entirety there's a leaning here I I'm just trying to show you and I'm going to go past these questions because this is what the article says. Am I more offended by her lack of credentials or am I triggered by the fact that she achieved the success I feel I earned without paying the same dues that I did. Where in my life am I waiting for a title or license to give me permission to be great?
If I feel number four, if I feel a sense of satisfaction or relief seeing this controversy unfold, what part of me feels small or unsuccessful? And why does Dr. Cheyenne Bryant struggle feel like a win for my own ego?
Now again, I'm not saying there's no there's not anyone who might or or people who might be feeling this way, but I think it's a insult to most of the sisters who are responding or it's a flattening or non-complex way of conceptualizing this case. I mean, I I get her case here, but I I just don't I I just I disagree with her case. I disagree with her flattening of this particular situation.
Again, I mean, and I don't disagree with Washington, Natasha Washington's overall, and doesn't doesn't mean that none of this is is things that we can take into consideration, but there's this is a an this is intentionally created to give Bryant a pass.
Like, so you asked Bryant a question.
And so people are asking Bryant, "Where are your degrees, girl?" So you know how the sisters talk, "Where are your degrees, girl?"
And now this sister is like, "Don't ask her. Let me ask you about your deeper wounds." And see, this is that's the type of stuff Bryant does.
Let me ask you about your stuff. That's a way that people that are like like I'll give you example. Like if you ever work with a client with narcissistic traits, at some point they'll turn they'll try to turn it around on you as the therapist. And this is what they do in their lives. Like they like, "So so Dr. Winkler, where did so what was going on in your life? I like to hear about you. I know we talk about me a lot here."
They good. I'm telling you, they're good.
And they they'll be like, "So," and it might not start off so noticeable as I just said it, but they'll be like, "Well, you know, I like to know a little bit." It'll come off like real natural. I like to know a lot more about you. And I'm not saying some people aren't like really don't mean anything by that, but for the most part, they they'll start saying, "Well, I'd like to hear more about you. I know we talk about me all the time." And D. Now, some people are just doing that because they is is uncomfortable. They want to hear something about you. But then there's those that do things like this and they start asking about you and then they start they want they're gathering information about you and now they make you the problem because and and and part of it is as long as you agree with them, as long as you agree with them, they won't weaponize it against you.
They'll ask you questions.
So when the day comes that you where they don't think that you were accurate or you hit that spot, they'll be like, "So you then they'll try to weaponize anything you told them."
Oh, so what part of the pain is that hitting? What pain pocket is that hitting? And I I hear my sister Cheyenne Bryant talking about these pain pockets.
You know, I have to give a re-evaluation of Bryant and she's she's very charismatic in a way. She's very uh intentional and she knows how to put on a show, but answering questions on her feet when people don't respond to her flooding and her reads, she doesn't do well. If you keep your composure like that guy Paul Pierce did, she's out of she's a fish out of water. So she because she requires that level of in friction and back and forth in a very strong way. I don't know. Paul was doing pretty good. I'm you know Paul was doing pretty good on that. I don't know about his his follow-up response but yeah something to think about there too. But anyway, y'all family. So this is this is this was her post and let me see if she has anything else. Um so at the bottom of this she says Natasha Washington reader support a publication to receive new post support. She said if you recognize yourself in this story come see me. I'm a holistic integration coach. So she said that people are trying to uh u um monetize or get you know get attention and all that but she's also promoting her business. I think she probably does, you know, it's, you know, it is what it is. That's what she's doing. I'm a holistic integration coach. I help women move from reactive healing and proactive healing to proactive healing so you stop repeating the situation you keep having to overcome. Now again, I'm not saying that she doesn't have I think there's things in there to consider, but I think that in trying to deal with things on an individual level often times, and this is what western psychotherapy is also good for, it it it gives the society a pass while it's like like this form of therapy and I and I and I struggle with it where it's the work is always about you. Where the work is always about you that nobody everything you everything you feel almost or how does that make you feel and you feel that way because some part about yourself you don't like and I I can't get with it. I I mean even one of my uh let's say Jaggers one of their approaches is that like if you if you get upset at somebody about lying their response would be what part of the liar in yourself that you don't like about yourself and I'm like I don't buy that all the time. Like I think that right there puts too much on a on the individual or like you're calling this person out by saying this.
What about their behaviors you don't like about yourself?
Is it the swindler in you that you don't like? Is it the part of you who you know like to me that's like that's like organized gaslighting.
It's like and in other words it come becomes a point where people begin to say you never should focus on what other people are doing.
Never focus on what other people are doing is what's being said a lot of times it's like just focus on you because when you get upset it's about how you feel about yourself.
So if you know this person is causing harm, what about who knows that whether or not they will harm like it's this whole I think over constructivist type of approach that doesn't work in the real world.
Preach brother cliff what it is man.
So yeah, I I can't get with like to me this is this is like when you begin to really and I know a lot of people talk about victim blaming.
To me it's almost like victim blaming blaming but worse. It's like I gave an example like if I know somebody's about to rip people off of their money, I'm not supposed to say anything. And literally like I've actually had a back and forth with one of my mentors that like said, "Well, if this person is doing this, why how do you know it will harm people?"
I'm like, "Because people, this will harm people in most cases. How do you know it will harm all people? How do you know that some people I'll give you the real example that I use extreme example but this person is saying they're selling an elixir that is healing people but you know it's gasoline I'm not supposed to tell my people about it and then what was told to me is that how do you know people can't drink drink gasoline or that some people can't drink gasoline or how do you know like it was that type of conversation it was like So, it's more about work that you have to do like for like like I'm sorry.
Every time somebody lie and I and you don't like it, it doesn't mean that it's about the lies or the liar in you.
You didn't like that this person is lying. That's it's that the person you felt that the person's not like because Cheyenne Bryant is lying now. I'm like, hold up. Look, she's lying y'all. Now I'm supposed to be like, "Let me reflect on myself." Why? Now I can reflect on myself, but the reality is the more I reflect, I know that I don't like that she's lying because it can be potentially harmful to my people.
So yeah, that's it.
All right, the hustle life is back in the building.
What what it is. So, um, let me see.
Man, this is a picture right here. What is this? Michael Jackson. I remember a doctor running around giving people BBBL BBL injections.
She was successful until someone died.
Portraying something when you're not has and will always be dangerous. I agree.
And um and and some of the anger that you see and I and and let's say what she says righteous like it it is like look I I worked hard for this. I'm not going to deny that.
Hustle life says $300 per hour.
Fine. And bestselling author winning.
Oh. Oh, this person said $300 per hour fine and best other winning. Okay. Yeah, that's that's what we're talking about.
But let's go here.
Um, is this it? Okay. So, obviously there were some responses to her post and I'm going to move past this quickly, y'all, because I I got somewhere I want to get to. Today, we will talk about walking around. This is Natasha Washington again unpacking the re the reaction. Dr. the Cheyenne Bryant public opinions and eternal wounds a much needed conversation about walking around wounded walking wounded the walking wounded the walking wounded now she's calling just like in other words just saying these are the walking wounded because they holding Dr. Bryant that they don't like what Dr. Brian has done. I don't think it's that simple.
And I'm going to get I'm going move I'm move much more quickly, y'all. I got to I got to go somewhere. But she says, "Today we will talk about the walking wounded." The walking wounded is as what it sounds a person that walks around with gaping wounds. They have not gotten any help heal help healing and most likely don't plan on it.
I won't disagree with her that this is a thing. The way people have been responding to my opinion of their behaviors around this Dr. Cayenne Bryant situation is wow. So again, see, they don't agree with her. But now she's saying they're wounded because they don't agree with her. See, that right there is problematic. At least from my perspective so far from what I read. She goes on and says, "I like she said, like I had to explain to someone having a meltdown in my comments today. you all saw an article about this lady and expected to read something bashing her.
Now, no, it doesn't mean that you're like, it doesn't mean that. See, that's one conceptualization, but people could have come here to read or to to read something some other opinion like I did, right?
um they they're actually think you know anyway there's multiple ways of looking at this and she says she's being flexible and all that but to me again she's still leaning in. She's not considering the complexity and the nuance within individuals who are responding.
It's not like one reason why everybody do does things right.
So, I understand, but no one ever said healing was comfortable.
She said she's healing. And I get it. I I can agree with her on that case. But I think her conceptual conceptualization of these of the sisters who are calling Cheyenne Bryan out for the most part within the mental health field is off.
People are extremely angry because they think I agree with Dr. Cheyenne Bryant.
Now, that's what she's saying. People are angry because they think that she agrees, right? The reason they think that is because I refuse to join in on their mob and attack her like they are doing. Look, calling people out become is now calling it an attack, right? to name someone who is lying before us in playing us, who are even calling out people on and and calling them womanizers and this and that and the third, but then turn around and say she's not doing much different. Yeah, that's that it's suspect.
So again, Natasha in Washington, May 16, 2026. What date was that? Let's see where we at now. I gotta check the calendars. you know, the days move fast.
Uh this was almost this was last Saturday. So this is a few days and clearly she had to at this point I I would at least I would imagine have heard more than it being about the lure and that it's about her having a doctorate degree or a doctoral degree and giving us information is just not adding up and then doubling down in a very aggressive way. But no, again, so so she goes and she continues to read people as if you know as she so she and it becomes a little funny here. But the thing is the way people have been responding to my opinion of their behaviors around this Dr. Cheyenne Bryant situation is wild. Now, I'm I'm I'm probably assuming that even the people who made the videos aren't the ones responding to um the system. Now, she could be the speaking to the people who are responding to her posts. Like I had to explain to someone having a meltdown in my comment section today. You all saw the an article about this lady and expected to read something bashing her. What ended up happening is you all opened up an article that helped what held up a mirror and that was hella uncomfortable.
I understand but no one ever said healing was comfortable. People are extremely angry because they think I agree with Dr. Cheyenne Bryant. I was lost. I lost my place y'all. The reason they think that that they because they the reason they think that is because I refuse to join in on their mob and attack her like they are doing. I refuse to become the bullies they are becoming in the name of accountability.
H see I have my opinions about the situation but the type of work I do isn't focused on that. See, that's the problem that I had with with with with people who see like I was talking to a brother and they keep talking about their work and the type of work they do and like so when other people do other forms of work, there's a minimizing of other people and what they're doing. And somehow I don't think this sister can see this here. Or maybe she does. I don't know. But perhaps the hoes that she's speaking to are her own hoes.
Because again, she's speaking about the work that she's doing. As if these sisters who are calling out Dr. Cheyenne Bryant aren't also doing work that they feel that they need to do as professionals within the field. and and and and just because the sisters, you know, even some of the questions she had she had earlier trying to get them to dig deeper into their shadow self, even if they did have these feelings, it doesn't make it like anything is even wrong with it. To to me that becomes even a form of what people call gaslighting. Like, okay, are you angry at Dr. Cheyenne Bryant because you worked hard and now you're not getting the attention to some degree? So like like yeah people can be angry that a fraud is being put on a pedestal. Now if a fraud is being put on a pedestal now you weaponize that against people. Now if even if that is a feeling that's a natural feeling and is a feeling a person can process.
There's nothing wrong with people feeling angered by phonies.
So again, we play these mind tricks and manipulation on people. So, but again, I don't know. This sister here might be trying her best, but there's she spoke about gaping holes, but there seemed to be that she's she also has gaping holes in her Substack articles.
She says, "Again, I have my opinions about the situation, but the type of work I do isn't focused on that." Okay, good. I I don't need to give my opinion about Dr. Cheyenne Bryant specifically in order to have something to say about the situation.
Now the thing is she's given a whole lot of opinions but the she can give her opinions about them.
She's given her opinions about them on an individual level and on a sweeping general level when they come into her comments. She now says you are this and you are hating and you need to do shadow work and this type of thing. But then she's all also speaking about it in a general level. Now, even if she kept it at the general level, that would be a thing.
And even if she came down a little bit, but the thing is she is doing the very thing that she said that that she's fighting against.
She's just not directing directing it toward Cheyenne Bryant. And see, this is what I see when like I don't know if she's like what her thoughts about Cheyenne Bryant is or what have you.
People tend to say that and I like people tend to act well, you know, I'm I'm levelheaded. But the more they talk, the more it's like I don't know, maybe you're a fan or maybe if you're not a fan, you're taking advantage of this situation for your own traction that what you're calling other people out is doing. But again, I don't think it's that simple. And I'll show you why I don't think it's simple. Why am I talking about this? I'm talking about me right now. I'm talking about this because I highlight situations that keep divisiveness in our community. And I and I try to highlight the perspectives.
Yeah. Again, I can see this sister's perspective. I'm not sure if she can see how her approach seems to be deflecting or misdirecting or doing the same thing that she is saying others are doing to poor poor Dr. So-called Bryant.
Now again, I think she has the honorary doctor. So you know if you know you utilize those in those ways.
So so let's let's move forward.
This is why people are losing losing it in my comments here and on my social media pages because a bully can deny their bullying in the midst of other bullies.
But they can't end the midst of someone who is pointing out their ways.
See that? So she's saying these people are bullies when but again she's calling them out for calling out Dr. Brian, but she's not seeing that she's doing very something very similar, but she's doing it to a entire community in the way that she's positioning this article or or or people who are responding as with she's giving these simplistic reasoning reasons and rationale around why people are responding and it tends to be that they need to do their own work. See, that's the type of therapy I always had a problem with.
I always have a problem with again with that form of therapy where it's always about you. There's nobody out here doing any injustice that you have to do the work inside of you. Now, you do have to do the work inside of you. But there are also people who are con artists. There are frauds. There's racism. There's all types of oppression. These things are real, but that doesn't stop you from having to do the work within you and the work on a greater level. Again, it's a both and.
And that is what my Nia philosophy theory and counseling model speaks to. It's it's it's a both and. We can't flatten it. The sisters obviously from my standpoint missing some holes and maybe they are missing some. I'm not sure, but I think it's very Well, let me say it like this. I looked at quite a few videos that got views, but the the therapists themselves for the most part that she's calling out, they tend to have been several of them, many of I mean, I didn't have to search hard that are really speaking from a balanced perspective or speaking from that theoretical understanding whether or not I agree with it totally, but I can see why they are assessing the situation through their therapeutic, their lenses, their their theoretical lenses like I like again even that pretty privilege and all that type of thing I that theoretical lens it does that that doesn't work for me I don't think it works for us but I understand why they will will assess it through that lens the way women are behaving she is saying women Okay.
The way women are behaving behind this situation is crazy. And typical behavior for women, women are always outraged about something when in actuality they just need a place to fit in. See, she flattens it. This is all this is everything. You know, maybe I don't know. I don't know why she doesn't have her license or doesn't have it anymore or what have you. Maybe perhaps it's because of her conceptualization.
So, so she's flattening these sisters who's coming out and speaking about their work they've done and their perspectives and their experience as she's flattening it to be simply women are always outraged about something when in actuality they just need a place to fit in.
She says, "Women are everything they hate in people."
There's a lady in my sub subst comments hollering about being a trutht teller while simultaneously crashing out when being told the truth about her ways.
See again see any model and framework that doesn't take in consideration people whether they you see it as an error or not is problematic. Like again I can see why this sister feels this way.
I don't think she can stat statistically support it though that sisters are just acting out because they just want to fit in.
Not that and and women in general are everything they that they hating people.
Like women in general are everything they hating people. This is what she's saying.
I got to continue to say she so y'all know it's not me.
Uh, there's a lady in my substack, she says, comments hollering about being a trutht teller while simultaneously crashing out when being told the truth about her ways. So, so, so she, so her truth is the truth.
So, so it sounds like she is saying that, you know, when when she told her the truth. Now, I'm not sure. See, I don't think it's always that simple to like say, "Oh, this is the truth about the ways." Like, let's talk about it. Like, even what I like even me here today, I could be totally off about this sister.
I don't It's not the truth about her ways. I I can only conceptualize what may be going on with this sister. And and and my conceptualization at this point is that she's she she's she's missing something.
in that right. There could be other conceptualizations that maybe she's intentionally doing this herself, but I'll lean towards the idea that she does she's she's struggling with seeing sisters act out in ways in the past.
She wants to help sisters. And sometimes when you get tired of seeing people not change the way you believe they need to change, you want to see better in them.
Sometimes you lose empathy. Sometimes you experience burnout. See, this is a conceptualization. Perhaps Sister Natasha M. Washington is tired of seeing black people, specifically sisters, struggle, but in her so now she just wants to beat it into them.
See, people do that.
Maybe that's maybe that's what she's doing. Or maybe she's I don't know.
Maybe she has just the again as I said the holes and blind spots. So to me I come on here to give conceptualizations so that we can perhaps understand one another.
And sometimes people don't like the conceptualizations because I'm not going to take one side another.
But what I'm saying is I'm not saying that sister's totally off in some of her assessment. I just don't think it's now where I would argue is that she's I don't agree with her assessment. I don't think it's that simple. Nor do I and I'm going to give you some reason why I don't think it's a fair assessment.
So, let's move again. And she says, "Women are everything they hate in people."
Going back down here, this is exactly the type of foolery women participate in on a daily basis.
I mean, this is what the sister saying.
She's saying, "This is the type of foolery that women," this is a sweeping statement.
Like, I have a problem with that statement.
I have a problem with anybody generalizing anybody, especially those within our community like that because a lot of times we I'm asking her like where where did where did you pull this from?
Where did you pull this from? This is exactly the type of foolery women participate in. I'm not maybe she's saying some of the women maybe she's saying that maybe she's saying a sub a subsect of women but again the way she's articulating it here and I think she said she or read somewhere that she was LPN at some point or something like I'm not LPN uh LCP something like that some lency but I'm assuming if she went through a program herself that her analysis would be sharper she says she has but she's not utilizing her own skills bills like like she she her training if she was a licensed clinical professional counselor, licensed professional counselor or social whatever it is psychology whatever it is her conceptualizations would need some data or some theory outside of the see I get the theory she's using is probably a very limiting theory and maybe that's what it is because she's using shadow work and hence when she uses shadow work, everything she sees is through that particular theoretical lens. See this this is what mental health professionals are trained in.
Counselors are trained in. This is I'm saying when we are operating in in a clinical position counseling clients we are trained in frameworks and we know especially those who are trained and well most of those who are very trained trained well let me say that that one framework will never tell you the the picture.
So we use multiple frameworks. So what I think I see here is she's using one framework.
She use she's using this shadow what is it shadow um people always talk about it shadow work and I don't even think she's using using it from a youngian per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p per p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p perspective, she's using more like what you see people in these shadow work, I'm going to say it cults that are popping up as different forms of therapy, unconventional therapy that builds off a young in psychology ology and they and they name it shadow work and these other things because people are operating outside of people let me let's be clear people are trying to heal and as this sister said healing is hard so people will go from here to there to here to there and everywhere to try to heal that wound that's hurt.
But again, this shadow work lens that she's using, it's not a lens that takes in account the complexity of life, the complexity of these sisters.
It's not taking into complexity of structures and systems and people's experiences outside of that they it must be them. It's something about you.
See, that's the thing. It's something about you. This is her lens. It's something about you. Then I'm wondering, she she hasn't maybe like she could say, well, I think a more balanced approach was like would be like, well, Dr. Bryant and sis sisters, maybe it's something that we all need to look at. And I and I could agree with that. We all can look at some things. The sisters can look at some things and Dr. Bryant can look at some things, but I haven't heard her say anything about Dr. Bryant. That's why I'm saying I don't think I think there's holes, gaping holes as she said in their logic. So why did she just go and what what was she just trying to fill them in but not show the fullness of the picture?
So again, today's topic is are the sisters hating on Cheyenne Bryant? Is it really that simple?
I say no.
So in in closing on this particular page as we I'm going to say this again. She says this is exactly the type of foolery women participate in on a daily basis.
If you are going to be a trutht teller then you have to be open and willing to hear some truth as well.
Now, I think it's cool and I and I hear people often say that they're truth tellers. I consider myself even a truth teller.
Not because or seeker of truth. Like I don't even like the word truth to be honest with you. I only I'm only using that in the in regards of the of how some people say in Kim at NECA that there to be a macaroo and I and I did go through a process of being a makaroo meaning that I don't think this is truth or not truth. I think this is very complex. I don't think that you can simply say this is truth this is not truth. I think we have to look at these things in the multiple moving pieces and layers that are available. It's not no simple truth.
So, it's not about truth in this case.
It's about what's going on and can we hear each other enough to hear that those sisters have a point? And maybe you do have a point too, Miss Washington. I'm not going to say maybe.
You have some points, but your points are overlooking complexity.
So she says you cannot be a messenger without first hearing a message. And if you are will unwilling to unwilling to hear a message they they you can never then I guess she's saying then you can never be a messenger.
See, again, I think it's a process.
Again, like a thought a psychotherrapeutic process or a a a a maybe she's coming from a coaching perspective.
And these sisters are coming from something else.
And it's not about truth. It's about us having the conversation.
And now if they say some things that strongly that strongly implicates Cheyenne Bryant, it's up for her to join that conversation.
Who shut the conversation down? She says she owes nothing to nobody.
And I promise you they have a problem with that for a variety of reasons. Especially as licensed people who have to show who they are if people ask. Licensed people who who have to disclose their credentials when asked. And in fact, you you you disclose them upfront.
People don't even have to ask you.
You're supposed to disclose them.
You're supposed to disclose your approach, your orientation.
See, so I think we have to look at this in more with more complexity that these sisters are highly trained and they're trained mainly not to do any harm.
And whether or not you agree with them, there's a training there that says do no harm.
And then her article before this when she said, well, now all of a sudden lure became a part of no lure became a part of uh uh uh now people want to act like it's about the pro protecting the clients. No, that's what's embedded in us to cause to do no harm people. It's embedded so much in us when we're going through the process that some people actually become too afraid to continue in the process.
I mean, you could even just become a realtor lency and you would see that even that process is very similar is to do no harm to protect your client to to to you know all those type of things and to be clear upfront disclose and to put everything in writing. In real estate there's no contract without it being in writing. So what I'm saying is that these things are embedded into you.
So I think the sister has her conceptualization is it warrants some conversation but I think it misses the mark.
She says, "Anyways, after the lady's first fit, I made a video discussing what I like to call the walking wounded.
This video goes into detail about who the walking wounded are and how to identify if you are one. Enjoy."
Now, I think um again overall I don't agree with her conceptualization.
There's pieces that I can I think that we can work with, but I think it misses the mark because it's very limited in looking through this one conceptual lens. And I'mma let you I'mma let it close out.
And this with her with her substack with with this one here. I don't This one is on May the 17th.
And I don't know if this is something different. Like I'm not that familiar with Substack, but May the 17th was yesterday, I think. Yeah, yesterday.
It says 16 hours ago.
And this was even more problematic to me. It's like the more she goes with time, the more it's like her argumentation derails or spirals. Like with time, you would think that someone would get back on track.
Miss Washington again who has some excellent some points to consider points but I think it's a overall it's a I would give her a poor conceptualization if she was my student. uh she would have to resubmit the paper with a fuller conceptualization and actually that's what I try to offer up over here is conceptualizations as I said earlier we we we we want to do deep dives we want to talk about possibilities considerations and it's really about the conceptualization is to help us with our metacognitive ability to understand other people and perhaps why they are responding. And sometimes that's a difficult process to do when you feel attacked or or we haven't built up the ability to or we haven't built up the ability to hear other people's perspectives.
And as I was saying earlier, most especially in my program when I was going through Yeah. Lyola and Wesburg because I had to do clinical hours. One of the things that I really appreciate about going through that process that many people don't know that we have to go through as clinicians is that we have to go through what we call supervision or um small group clinical like a like a clinical we go through clinical internship and we go through the classes and all that type. But we we also have a class that goes with that clinical internship and they call it different things in different schools, but like this semester I'll be teaching it. It's called um I've taught it several semesters. Um well, in this case, I'll be teaching internship one. They've been through practicum, they get their feet wet, then they go into internship one.
and in internship and practicum and internship too. And I think I had to go through I had to go through probably four internships for my program um at Lyola. It was two entire school calendar years that I had to go through and we had to go through like two full years.
Um, so what I'm saying that we had to harness and build up is this ability to hear feedback from our peers.
So again, as I stated much earlier in this video, most of you weren't here, is that we would have to record Elsa Elsa Mesta's.
I mean, we I'm sorry, I'm reading the screen. It says Natasha doesn't share any of her educational details on her site. I just looked it up. Thank you.
Um, Miss Me 3916, we would have to record our sessions. We had to get permission from our clients and you know a release form to show this video in our supervision class.
And we had to do case conceptualizations like anywhere from 10 to 20 pages long utilizing multiple theories whether that be you know whatever theories that kind of sit with you and and and to be honest with you there's always a theoretical under um pinning underpinning approach that the schools actually kind put in the program in general especially like counseling is humanistic and I'm I'm going to say feministic um it's going to also be like um probably aspects of uh so so counseling is so this social justice orientation that's one thing I want you to consider when you consider these like the the training and counseling and even psychology and even social work especially counseling it's a counseling psychology There's a social justice social justice framework that's supposed to be what set the different field people try to figure out what makes their the fields different the different counseling psychology counseling education counseling uh clinical like there's different things that people focus on or different that the fields focus on or the specialties focus on more than the other. They all kind of do similar things, but they also there's a focus. You you have to understand there's a focus that each do differently and it's not as simple all the time to kind of tease those out even just with labels and titles and um yeah because a lot of times it has to do with even your education in different schools and stuff like that.
But you have to do these conceptualizations. These conceptualizations are long. Then you has to you have to do verbatims. So you record the video then you have to take a segment out of that video. I can't remember it was like 5 to 15 minutes and you have to write it up verbatim. This is before technology. And then if you do use technology has to be HIPPA compliant. And when I was going through my M's program in doctoral they didn't have all this stuff that you can transcribe and you know your video and all that type of thing. You have to write it out. Every word you said, every word they said for a segment of that video. And what you do is then you have to you have to actually write why you did this and what the client was doing there and what skill you were using and what in other words what intervention you were using so you can be very aware of the interventions that you're utilizing with the client.
And many times, you know, as a new therapist or a counseling training or what have you, you don't even know what skills you're using. You're just doing your thing.
But you have to at some point you have to tie it back into some theory. So, it's like it's not about what you want to do, it's about what does the theory say to do. And as one of my men, one of my mentors say, uh, theory allows you to get yourself out the way. Because if we don't use theory or some ideological approach in other spheres like politics, you'll just be doing what you do. You won't have, you know, what you feel like. You won't have any framework to build off of. So that is one of the major things we do in the in the mental health field. Some better than others.
But what I'm saying is her conceptualization is is struggling um because it seems like she's using this um shadow work framework and she's missing so so so many other things that's going on. All right, so let's get to it.
She says, "Before you self-appoint yourself to be the person that can hold people accountable, first ask yourself, you hear that?"
She says, "First ask yourself before you self-appoint yourself to be the person that can hold people accountable."
So again, this is my problem and I keep saying it like you get like we say we need to hold each other accountable in our community in our community spaces and then when you hold people accountable that people like then you become the problem and then we say two weeks later no one holds these people accountable.
See, I mean, I'm I'm about accountability and I'm about receiving accountability, but typically what people do, I find when people are trying to hold people accountable, especially when right now it's not that it's it's kind of popular to hold Cheyenne accountable at to some degree. It look like it's taking a turn. We'll see.
We'll see. But there's times where I've tried to I've tried to hold people accountable in different spheres.
And when you do that, people say, "Well, nobody's perfect."
To me, and even I had a conversation about that the other day. Like to me, when we say that, that's a conversation stopper.
So, so we say we need to hold each other accountable. The same people say we need to hold each other accountable and now saying no one's perfect. We all have flaws and in my NIA theory in my framework I talk about there's a difference between flaws and frauds because somehow we conflate them.
And when we're talking about Cheyenne, we're not talking about a flaw. We're talking about a fraud.
We're talking about one who is portraying something that she isn't.
She's betraying something that she isn't. And somehow people are trying to normalize that.
Natasha in some way. I don't know what Natasha is saying here, but it seems like she's saying she's not making any type of she hasn't assessed, she hasn't stated her thoughts, but to me through my conceptualization, it's it's kind of seeping out because Natasha says here, before you self-appoint yourself to be the person that can hold people accountable, first ask yourself, have you washed the back of your neck with a white cloth.
She says, "Can you use your heels to scratch your legs?"
Do you sit down? No. She says, "Do your sit down air stink?
Do your sit down air stink?" She says, she says, "Do you breathe hard while sitting down?
Have you plucked your chin hairs?
Is your big toenails thicker than your glasses?
Have you drank any water or eaten any fruits and veggies in the last 24 hours?
I could go on, but you get the point.
She says, she says, and she says, she says, "Always worry about self first.
Have the night y'all deserve." So again, this is again this is a a a major error that Miss Washington is committing here.
Again, it assumes things. It assumes that these people haven't all haven't already considered themselves first.
And that's the problem I had with this type of approach that continues to say only worry about yourself.
It people say only worry about yourself.
See this is problematic because then how do you ever get to accountability?
Because then you say stuff like this.
You not you didn't talk to those people.
You don't know if they considered themselves already or what work they've done. You're only assuming that people are responding to this because of what you are saying is they're hurt to me through the in in in myia theory and and and just my ways of conceptualizing the world. We can do two things at one time.
We can do the work on ourselves and also hold each other accountable.
But again, we say things like this many times when we don't want the people or or or not even if we it's not even always about the people. It's like our own traumas. Even if we want to conceptualize this thing through a traumatic lens on a on a on a general level, many times we're so tired of seeing black people not quote unquote win that when we think one is winning, as she articulated that she believes that Cheyenne is winning more than all these people went to school and got the degrees and all that type of thing, which I don't I'm trying to figure out how do you measure that? I don't I don't think most people I don't think a lot of people would agree with that.
that Cheyenne is somehow doing better than these sisters. You don't know these sisters.
I know too many sisters in the field that are doing really well.
I'm saying without the celebrity. I'm saying sisters who are really doing well financially even contracts, books, workshops, lecturing, teaching, publishing.
Like everybody doesn't want to be a celebrity YouTuber.
Everybody doesn't want to be a celebrity therapists.
And when I mean both ways, not everyone wants to serve celebrities.
You can't pick that all the time because sometimes they'll come to you.
But definitely not one that is a se a celebrated psychotherapist.
Not everyone wants to have a podcast.
Not everyone wants to uh make the news. There's plenty of people that don't want anything to do with that that still will hold her accountable.
So again, this sister this sister goes in her I'm going to say her conceptualization failure. She says before you selfappoint yourself to be the person that can hold people accountable, first ask yourself. So I'm asking her to ask herself. She's holding a lot of people accountable that she DON'T EVEN KNOW THEIR backgrounds who she had like like she she they're typing things and now she's making these sweeping conceptualization and general diagnosis of them. But we've seen Cheyenne parade around and I'm saying yeah we've seen some things about Cheyenne.
So now you can HOLD A WHOLE CHAT board or a whole comment section accountable, but they can't say, "Well, this sister, this seems funny." without them being haters.
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So again, she says, "Before you self-appoint yourself to be the person that can hold people accountable, first ask yourself, I'm going to go through it real quick and then I'm going to go to the next thing. Have you washed the back of your neck with a white cloth? Can you use your heels to scratch your legs?
Do do your sit down ass stink?" I never heard nothing like that before. Do you breathe hard while sitting down?
Have you plucked your chin hairs? So anyway, if if if you if if you do any of these, you can't hold nobody accountable.
Girl, you got to, you know, in the grad program, I'm going to give you a D. And you know what that mean? It's hard to get a D in a grad program.
That mean you that mean you can't get a C in a grad program, family, if you don't know it. If you get if you get you might be able to get one seat and you get two, you gonna get kicked out for the most part.
So you can't if if your big toenail is thicker than your glasses, then you can't say nothing.
She says, "Have you drank any water or eaten?" If you ain't drank no water or eat or eaten any fruit or veggies over the last 24 hours, then you can't say nothing. Her this is her measurement.
This is her code of conduct. These are her standards. So, so again, these are not the standards that the sisters are saying. The sisters are saying, "Well, there's a standard in the field."
So she says, "Well, no, I'm going to give you my standards." See, they're utilizing the standards from APA, ACA, and all these other boards and uh that that that exists, marriage, life, family, you know, all that. But she said, "Hold up. I'm going to give you my code of ethic. My code of ethics.
Shut up if you haven't eaten any vegetables."
Then she says, "I'm assuming you haven't worried about yourself if you are trying to hold somebody accountable."
Natasha, Natasha, Natasha, sister, you are you you do you you got you got something going on, but this ain't it.
Natasha, Natasha, Natasha, I see you. You know, you do have some some you do got you there's some legitimacy in some of your shadow, but there it is grossly overutilized in generalized as it pertains to this particular situation and in general in our population.
Yeah, I said I said it too, Curtis Shaw.
She is from my standpoint, my conceptualization is she reminds me of Dr. Umar Jones.
said that earlier in this video several times that to me Cheyenne studied Umar.
She said Umar ain't never shown no degree. I ain't showing no degree.
Let me buck like Uma. The problem is people could search Umar and find out that he had a degree.
Some people still don't think Umar has a degree.
I never questioned Umar's degree uh for a variety of reasons. I question his behaviors.
I question his behaviors.
So again, I want to show you what led me here.
Oh shoot.
What led me here? Family. Again, I want to show you this. This came down my timeline yesterday. and my cousin who just joined the building, proper perspective, peace and power. He and I did a show the other day. Go and check it out, like it, all that type of thing.
What led me here was this comment from Sister Phillip and it came up my timeline. It says, "Dr. Cheyenne Bryant represents everything people were taught was wrong, was the wrong way to do things and she is still more successful and well known than them from what have I what I've from what I've witnessed. That's the issue. So again, it's this simplistic way of and you know, I'm sorry, Cheyenne looks, you know, if you know, I know y'all say she got pretty privilege, but my cousin does makeup. He's a He's a rockstar makeup artist. And um I'm just sorry. I mean, I'm just saying she she's she's a beautiful woman without it. But you know, sometimes y'all get caught up in the illusion.
My cousin, check him out. Marcus Miller, top tier makeup off artist. I mean, I'm serious. Go check him out. My cousin, but he's my brother cousin. You know what I mean?
So, so Miss Phillips says, "From what I've witnessed, that's the issue. Watching the person who did it wrong when so because people who didn't do it." So, it's not about her lying.
It's not about her potentially causing harm as this sister, Miss Phillip and also Miss Washington has highlighted that is about the really these sisters are besides the the the sister um one sister who she gave a big up to Dr. um I I keep forgetting her name but she's she's a sharp sister.
Um because what's the sister name? Who? Um the clinical psychologist sister.
Um so basically they made it they're oversimplifying this thing and to me their their analysis is off and they're calling other people out. So, in other words, from what I'm getting from most people, we don't need to hold from what I'm hearing from this, don't hold people accountable. Y'all hating. And that's I mean, I had that type of conversation with a brother and I think he just did a show today talking about black men need to stop arguing or something. It probably was about I could be wrong, but you know, you ain't going to say nothing about that, but let part of my NG framework is this.
Let them be wrong.
Walk in in your highest values as one of my mentors say.
Let your values be in accord with no let your behaviors be in accord with your highest values and that is what we call integrity.
The hustle life says she claims to be a psychology expert and life coach, therefore deserves an FBA pass. Doctor now, you know, if it's a FBA pass, I ain't giving it to her.
Hey, but she out there with Tariq though. You know what I mean? There's a lot of people who who do um a lot of actors out there. That's what I can say.
She's an actor. In fact, she's an actress, right? She's really is an actress, isn't she? But what I I did read more recently with a little bit more research is that even in California that expert is really she's working with some in some murky water because they in the in the law is written that you should not utilize the word psychological psychology and all these type of ways to present yourself as an expert.
Now it it didn't say you couldn't call yourself a psychological expert but it is definitely in the language to present yourself as a expert in the field of psychology.
I think that's a little murky. I don't know you know. Yeah. You know I don't know. you know, Umar got off with it, but you know, a little bit because he does he does have um a level of uh what is it called? I'm sorry, y'all. Let me Let's do this. Let's let's move on. Uh let's let's do this. Let's do this.
Let's see what's next. I'm about to close this on out, family. Um I'm going to go I'm going just do it this way.
And this is how I'm going to close out.
I don't have everything I wanted together that I wanted to put together for you today, but I want to show you something that I think we we must consider when we're examining this. And it's not just as simple as what these people are saying. And and I pretty much said it already today, but I want to just be clear. I know people like to see things, so I'm going to do it that way.
And I want to show you some things here.
So, let's look. So, let's be clear that if she was to be licensed, she'll be licensed as a a counselor if she finished that program. I want to keep that clear.
She also said that she is a she would be licensed. I'm talking about whether or not she got the doctoral degree or the master's degree, she would be licensed as a counselor because the one the doctoral degree didn't have any Krep or APA accreditation.
But the field of counseling, if your coursework aligns, you can take the exam and become a counselor.
It's not the other fields don't do that.
Clinical social work you can't in most case maybe it might be different different in different places because I think it is I know but it's it's let's think of it she would more than likely be a counselor more so a counselor because she's also said that she doesn't need the doctoral degree because she she's um LMFT or something like that large marriage and family therapist. So she she will be more than likely for under counseling.
So So I want to just show you a few things. This is the 2014 ACA code of con code of ethics.
Let's just read the mission. The mission of the American Counseling Association is to enhance the quality of life in society by promoting the development of professional counselors, advancing the counseling profession, and using the profession and practice of counseling to promote and respect for human dignity and diversity. See, no, no, no. I I know that, let's be clear, I know that a clinical social worker can be a therapist at a mast's level, but they typically have their own uh board. So, they typically like like here in Maryland, you have the um social workers board where they get their lensure through that on that mast's level. Okay. Um so, let's go back. So, so this is a you saw my did you saw the code of conduct that the sister put together, right? Let me see if I can find that really quickly. You saw her code of conduct.
She put together.
Let's see what she put together. Let's find that. Let's find that one more time. I just want to juxtapose these code of conducts because you know this is what she's doing. You know what I mean? Like let's let's let's juxtapose her code of conduct. And so yeah, so this is Miss Washington's code of conduct again. One more time.
Natasha says, "Before you self-appoint yourself to be a person that can hold people accountable, first ask yourself, have you washed the back of your neck with the white washcloth?" Okay. And she goes on and then then she finally goes off, "Always worry about yourself first.
Have the night, y'all. Have the night, y'all." That's her code of conduct. Now these sisters who she's arguing are arguing from perhaps this form of code of conduct, right? So and this is what you're trained in school. You this is embedded in you.
We have to use this even in our projects. We have to write about it, right? Ethical decision-making models and all types of things, right? You know this is what happens, right? So let's let's do this. So let's let me just read this. The American Counseling Association is a educational, scientific, and professional organization whose members work in a variety of settings and serve multiple capacities. Counseling is a profession, a professional relationship that empowers diverse individuals, families, and groups to accomplish mental health, wellness, education, and career goals. Professional values are important ways of living out ethical commitment. The following are core professional values of counseling the counseling profession. One, enhancing human development throughout the lifespan.
Honoring diversity and embracing multic a multicultural approach in support of the worth, dignity, and potential and uniqueness of people within their social and cultural context. Promoting social justice. I want to highlight that. See, social justice is also essential. And I I would argue that many who've been trained see that naming this is a part of social justice against someone who they believe will violate their community showing up as a fraud. As I said, my NGIA framework we speak about, we have to understand there's a difference between flaws and frauds.
Everybody has flaws, but not everybody's a fraud. We can hold space and even talk about the flaws.
You know what I'm saying? We expect people to have flaws.
We don't expect people to be We expect We know people are going to be frauds, but we don't just ignore their fraudulence. Because if a person is fraudulent in one way, you best to believe that it's a web of fraudulent behavior.
That's just speaking a bit of a personality safe. So again, safeguarding integrity and counselor client relationship. So look, number four, safeguarding the integrity of the counselor client relationship. So they're taught they're taught that these are up these are really important practicing in a competent and ethical manner. These are the this is the this is just a preamble.
So to them this these are this is very important.
This is what they've been taught that they must do. So again I say like so to flatten my sisters is just being hating and angry and jealous and having um pretty uh uh uh um p punishing her because she's quote unquote pretty. In fact, just my own opinion. I've seen some of them who they you can say calling her pretty who are punishing her because she's pretty from my perspectives is prettier than her.
I'm just saying like I don't you know that's just my perspective my my objective my my uh subjective eye. So again, we this is Washington's code of ethics that we must follow and this is the code of ethics that they're following.
So they and this is what and this look you just don't they just don't put this on the on the on the on the like just have this published and you don't use it. Your teachers actually teach you from this. You have a whole class on law and ethics and then this the the code of ethics is intertwined throughout all your courses for the most part. What is the ethical decision? What do you do?
How do you do you know client confidentiality? It's through it's throughout your coursework.
So these sisters aren't just hating.
They are they have muscle memory.
I'm not saying there's nobody that's got a little hate in them. I'm just saying for the most part, these professional sisters who are therapists aren't just responding. I mean, reacting. They're responding. And as a result of their training, it ain't about this hate. Now, they might be conceptualizing some things that you you disagree with because you probably disagree with things I'm saying as well.
But the thing is, it's not about whether or not you agree with them fully, but to flatten their analysis to be just pretty privileged.
Is whack.
I'm sorry. Punishment is whack.
To flatten them as just haters is whack.
In fact, like like like look, let me just stop there because I'm like again, I want to get back to the idea that beauty is subjective. I mean, I know we have these standards and all that type of thing, but I didn't I don't like the terminology, but again, nah, it's it's more complex than that. These professional values provide, it says here, these professional values provide a conceptual basis. See that conceptual conceptual basis for ethical premise principles enumerated below. These principles are the foundation for ethical behavior and decision making. You hear that? It is not a counselor, therapist, psychologist, social worker or trained person that this has not been embedded in if they went through all this type of education.
It says the fundamental principles of professional ethical behavior are autonomy or fostering the right to control the direction of one's life.
Non-malfcence or avoiding actions that cause harm. So that's in them.
They don't want to cause harm.
It's in the preamble.
It's embedded in their minds that they don't want to cause harm and nobody should cause harm.
Right.
Beneficence or working for the good of the individual and society by promoting mental health and well-being.
justice or treating individuals individuals equitably and fostering fairness and equality.
Fidelity fidelity and honoring commitments and keeping promises.
Honoring commitments and keeping promises, including fulfilling one's responsibilities of trust in professional relationships.
It's in their code of ethics. They they had to write papers on this.
It's embedded in their minds whether or not they even remember. It's a part it it has been inculcated. It has been inserted even to protect the client to protect the field.
fidelity or or honoring commitments and keeping promises, including fulfilling one's responsibilities of trust in professional relationships and veracity or dealing with or dealing with veracity or dealing with truthfully or dealing truthfully with individuals with whom the counselors come into professional contact.
So again, veracity or dealing truthfully with individuals with whom counselors come into professional con contact. Let's see. I see some messages popping up here.
I'm so glad this message is coming from a man.
If a woman her looks would be sized up and if not considered more attractive than Cheyenne, it would be chocked up as pretty punishment, hating and envy.
I appreciate that.
So again, this is what So it's not these easy sisters are hating conceptualizations. I'm not Look, look, we got the work to do and and and in in the brotherhood and the sisterhood. But to chalk this up to just be they hating that ain't that's that's not what it is.
Is somebody hating? Is there one is there some people who who might be hating? Yeah, might be some, but that's not what these sisters are doing. What I'm seeing, I I know I I train people in this. I've been trained in this.
There's an innate visceral feeling you get when you see people acting out of certain certain ways. Like, oh, whoa.
You what are you doing? And this is why people often say, well, counselors don't act that way. They don't act that way.
She doesn't act like a therapist. She doesn't act like a psychology. She doesn't act like a professional. She doesn't act like a PhD.
Because there is a code and there are repercussions if you don't follow these codes, good, bad, ugly or indifferent because there are definitely in all codes things that people don't agree with who are also in the field. Let's keep that a buck because we understand that within these institutions there's always it's always set up in a way to keep certain people out. It's always set in a way to keep people in certain positions.
is always set up in a way to keep the status quo, but that ain't what we talking about right here.
But that conversation is always also needed. Now, if the sister of Washington was saying that, then I would agree. But this ain't what she's saying. She just gave you her code of ethics. I'm being facitious, y'all. When I say it's her code of ethics, you know, a little levity here.
You know what I mean? Her code of ethics.
But I mean, that's that's the closest thing I got to it. It looks like she she ran it down. Have you drank any water or eaten any fruits and veggies in the last 24 hours? If you haven't, you can't hold nobody accountable.
All right. So, ACA code of ethics purpose. The ACA code of ethics purpose serves six main purposes.
The code sets forth the ethical obligation of ACA members to provide guidance intended to inform the ethical practice of professional counselors.
The code identifies ethical considerations relevant to professional counselors and counselors in training.
That mean if you're in school, you still must abide. The code enables the association to clarify for current prospective members and for those served by members the nature of the ethical responsibilities held in common by its members. The code serve as ethical guide as an ethical guide designed to assist members in constructing a course of action that best serves those utilizing counseling services and establishing expectations of conduct with a primary emphasis on the role of the professional counselor. The code helps to support the mission of the ACA.
The standard contained in this code serve as the basis for processing inquiries and ethics complaints concerning ACA members.
Okay. Promon I had to ask you a question. Are you are you a brother or sister or indifferent?
So, but anyway, ProWoman67 says, and peace to you, that at Miss Me 3916 agree attorney Simone is just as pretty and actual lawyer, so no one called her a hater even though she has exposed Dr. Brian as a fraud. Well, they probably, you know, you know, and all that is subjective, right? But I get it. I think, you know, you know, I don't I don't even like to do that, you know, but as far as like I get it. We do have standards of beauty, but um yeah, man, I don't like the idea of pretty privilege. I don't like the way it Yeah, I would probably write on it one day. I have to flesh it out a bit, but um again, this is the ACA code of ethics purpose.
Let me see what I got here. I I highlighted this. I didn't go through it a lot, but it says counselor's action should be consistent with the spirit as well as the letter of ethical standards.
No specific ethical decision-making model is always most effective. That means that we are we there's we get trained in different models to deal with unethical situations. Like we actually have frameworks and models that can be utilized to take you through the process when when you might be when you find yourself up against something that might be unethical or that you're considering whether how to approach it. You know what I mean? So it says counselor's action should be consistent with the spirit as well as the letter of ethical standards. No specific ethical decision-making model is always most effective.
So councils are expected to use a credible model of decision-m that can bear public scrutiny of its application through a chosen what what decision-making model is Cheyenne using?
What decision-making model is Natasha Washington using and whoever else you know uh Sister Phillips? What ethical decision making? See, see what I'm saying is these sisters are trained whether or not you agree or not. This is a part of the training.
Through a chosen ethical decision-making mo process and evaluation of the context of the situation, counselors work collaboratively with clients to make decisions that promote clients growth and development. A breach of the standards and principles provided herein does not necessarily con constitute legal liability or violation of the law.
Such action is established in legal and judicial proceedings.
So I'mma go on and just show you different parts of it and and compare this against this this against this, you know, and I'm not saying this is perfect, but it's up to us to make the changes that are necessary within.
So just going down to the first line the first A1 the primary responsibility the primary responsibility what's the primary responsibility and this is what I said to the brother the other day he told me you trying to protect the industry it says it here the primary responsibility of the counselor of counselors is to respect protect the dignity and promote welfare of clients.
It's about the clients, family.
It's about the people in the community.
It's not all it's it's not about you and your feelings completely. It's about all it your feelings are in there too at times. You know what I mean? But to flatten it to say, "Oh, you just hating sisters."
is an error.
Let's go.
So, there's all types of things to consider. Mandated clients, types of information needed, counseling plans, clients served by others, avoiding harm, impo and imposing values. You know what I mean? So, it's you got to deal with these things.
personal values. It's saying counselors are aware of and avoid imposing their own values and attitudes and beliefs and behaviors. Counselors respect the diversity of clients, trainees, and research participants and seeking training in areas in which they are risk the risk of opposing their values onto clients, especially when the council's values are inconsistent with the client's goals and discriminatory in nature.
It's just just an idea of something that comes up. Um, you can't have sex It says here, "If you're a life coach, you can do what you want to do. Sexual and or romantic relationships are prohibited, y'all." There's some some nuance here, but it's but you're not not with your client.
You know what I mean? There's nuance with years and all that type of thing.
And then there's laws in your state that you got to adhere to and all that type of thing. But people get in trouble all the time.
even previous sexual um relationships.
Counseling friends and family members, confidentiality and advocacies. Councils obtain consent prior to engaging in advocacy efforts on behalf of an identifiable client to improve the provision of service and to work towards removal. Let me see here.
So there's something that I I'm I'm looking for. But what I wanted to tell you is even when you're talking about um confidentiality you you you like we have to be very clear even I can't find it here but or the verbiage but you can't just be saying like she said well this is a this client uh Nick Cannon is my client because I I went on an interview with him like it's supposed to be some informed consent there. She just made them her client. You know what I mean? Like you just don't do that.
But let me go down. Y'all y'all see all this type of thing, right? Respect and respectful confidentiality.
Council protect the confidential information of perspect prospective and current clients. Council disclose information only with appropriate consent or with sound legal ethical justification.
Um he's even talking about clients lacking capacity of giving information shared with others serious foreseeable harm and legal requirements.
Uh let me go down y'all. Y I just want to give you an idea of this compared to this and why these sisters are responding because they're highly trained. They had to do papers, write papers, professional responsibility.
um they're like they're calling out because they're trained in this. I wanted to actually now in this section here C section C I did get to this part. I might do another. So, professional qualifications, it says counselors claim or imply only professional qualifications actually completed and correct any known misrepresentation of their qualifications by others.
Counselors truthfully represent the qualifications of their professional colleagues.
So, what does this mean? This means that when people are saying she's something that she's not, she's supposed to correct it.
So if your So if your client comes in and say, "Hey, Dr. Winkler," and I'm a master's level clinician, I have to say, "Well, I'm not doctor. At least not yet." You know, like I'm not doctor.
It says, "Counselors truthfully represent the qualifications of their professional colleagues." Counselors truthfully represent the qualifications of their professional colleagues. Let me say that one more time. Counselors truthfully represent the qualifications of their professional colleagues.
H something to think about. Counselors clearly distinguish between paid and volunteer work experience and accurately describe their continuing education and specialized training.
In other words, you can't you got to disclose who you are, what you are, and if this is a counseling session.
You have to describe whether or not this is volunteer or paid. You got to do things up front. You don't just show up somewhere and say, "Well, that was a counseling session."
It says counselors claim only licenses or certifications that are current and in good standing.
Educational degrees. Counselors clearly differentiate between earned and honorary degrees.
Counselors clearly differentiate between earned and honorary degrees.
Let that one sit.
And people asking like, "So, what's this fight? What why are they so arrogant?"
No, it's it's it's it's part of the training. It doesn't have to do with arrogance all the time.
They have to disclose. So, they want you to disclose, too.
What they say what's good for the goose is good for the how do they say gando or whatever. I'm not good with those things y'all.
Again, counselors clearly differentiate between earned and honorary degrees. And there's been this honorary war going on or against people are saying, well, the these PhD people are are are arrogant.
I'm not saying none of them aren't, but we also have to understand what they're adhering to implying doctoral level competence.
Okay, in this section, counselors clearly state their highest earned degree in counseling. See, the thing is in counseling, for the most part, you can be masters or doctoral. For the most part, psychology is doctoral. It's doctoral.
They do have some masters, cool counselors and stuff like that that can be licensed. I'm saying or certified.
Counselors clearly state their highest earned degree in counseling or closely related fields.
Counselors do not imply let me let me give you example. If you have a master's degree in clinical psychology and then you also take some additional credits, you can become a counselor. Typically, typically a a a a clinical a clinical psychology program won't give you all of the credits that are that are required to get a master's level um degree. Just like school counseling, if you went to school for school counseling even, you could have you could have taken even 60 credits or what have you, but still haven't had enough of the clinical aspect to qualify for the for the lure.
So, the same thing for like uh mast's level psychology programs often don't fulfill a master's level lure, but you can take additional credits. A lot of people go go to another school and take the credits or they do it after they finish their master's degree. And some have it kind of built in. It's just different ways they do it. But for the most part, people are not um licensed at the master's level. When we talk about psychology, they're licensed at the doctoral level. Counseling is at the master's level.
Social work is at it starts at the at the mast's level. And I think psychology used to be at the mast's level, but then they change they they fought to make that change.
So again, counselors clearly state their highest earned degree in counseling or closely related field. Council do not imply doctoral level competence when possessing a master's degree in counseling or related field by referring to them cells probably it says as doctor in counseling contacts when their doctorate is not is not in counseling or related field counselors do not use ABD which perhaps she might have ABD all but dissertation. I don't know. So, you can't use an you can't even call yourself an ABD yet alone a doctor if you didn't finish if you didn't complete your dissertation or other such terms to imply competency.
So, you could have you could have went through an entire program in counseling or or related field and didn't finish your dissertation. But you cannot imply that you are ABD level practitioner.
Accreditation status. Counselors accurately represent the accreditation status of their degree program in college university. So there's just different things I just want you to kind of look at. You can consider um accurate representation counselors claim or imply only professional qualifications actually completed and correct any known misrepresentations of their qualifications by others.
Counselors truthfully represent the qualifications of their professional colleagues.
Yeah, we said that already.
Just be who you say you are.
Stop. F you lying is what they're saying and disrespect to the people who actually have PhDs. So yeah, I'm going to probably wrap it up family. I I did want to get here and say well basically basically it's not that simple to say our sisters are hating.
They there's a code of conduct whether they agree with every section of it or all the tenants in it. They have been trained in these things. They have been held liable to adhere to these things. And they are responsible to even to even um approach others who are operating under the guise of their profession or those who are licensed in their profession.
who are licensed in their profession who might not be operating ethically. For example, here so this section here is resolving ethical issues. One thing it says here is an informal resolution. You know, when the counselors have reason to believe another counselor is violating or has violated an ethical standard and substantial harm has not occurred, they attempt to first resolve the issue informally with the other counselor if feasible provided such action does not violate confidentiality rights that may be involved. So you you know so it goes on telling you reporting ethical violations um consultation it gives it tells you like so so you are taught to also protect the field as the brother was simply trying to flatten me too and like I said it's all about the clients it's all about my people if I if I've served my people I would do whatever it is that's ethical ethical to my people to just the people that I serve. I'll say that even more clearly.
But as it pertains to this social media stuff, I am specifically saying that I serve my people, meaning the black and African community, when we have frauds before us. Again, I always say, yeah, there's flaws and and many people have we all have flaws.
We all have flaws. That's expected.
There's many people who are fraudulent.
It's not expected, but we know that it exists.
But again, as I can't go with Miss Washington's code of ethics because it says, "Don't warn your people about people who come before us, meaning to deceive us.
Just look at yourself." That's what she says. And that's what lots of people are saying. And lots of people are saying these things and they're saying it because they don't want to see their superheroes. This is a conceptualization just one of many fall.
They will allow people to come in our communities and be frauds just to say or just to see somebody who looks like them play the role of what they believe or what they've been taught that success is. I'm gonna get out of here. Family, I appreciate for y'all who joined and and um some of y'all got off. Some of y'all stayed on. some of y'all came and picked up later. Make sure you go back and look at the entire video. Um, if you haven't uh because I I went over quite a few things to kind of build up this process to say no family, it's not as simple as saying the sisters are hating Cheyenne Bryant. It's way more complex than that.
Our sisters are doing the work. And there's many reasons why they feel the way they feel.
Whether I agree with it wholeheartedly or not, I would say you cannot flatten or dismiss it is just hating, blessings, peace, and power. When you claim you're going TO GET YOUR MIND BLACK WOMAN IS DOING THIS AND being this that is misponsible.
When you claim you're going to get your mind showing me you know I'm telling you when you claim you get your mind when you claim you're going to get your mind. That's why I was laughing cuz I'm not saying doesn't do a thing to black men justice in the control. We become a part of only it embrace it when you claim you're going to get your mindal growth consume. When you claim your Africanness, you're going to get your mind back. Black and I'm proud. Claim your Africanness. Black and I'm proud.
I'm telling you.
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