Tarantino at His Most Meta

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[00:00:30]Welcome back to the Crown Cinema podcast. In this episode, we are breaking down >> and literally just watched Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

[00:00:39]>> This is a big one for you.

[00:00:40]>> Great rewatchable movie. I mean, you could watch this movie over and over again.

[00:00:44]>> This is like this. Is this your Well, I know this is like the number one movie for you when it comes to like just a down day, whether you're sick, hung over, just feeling under the weather in general.

[00:00:57]>> Throw it up. Throw it on. Yeah. Like if it I feel like it's just kind of like a gray rainy day.

[00:01:04]We're not nothing's getting done today.

[00:01:06]Throw it on.

[00:01:07]>> Yep. Cuz it's a good background movie, too. You can hop into any scene and you're good.

[00:01:12]>> Yeah.

[00:01:12]>> Like cuz it's a hangout movie and it's probably the best hangout movie that's ever been created.

[00:01:17]>> It is definitely a hangout movie.

[00:01:19]>> Yeah. You can do chores around the house to this movie.

[00:01:22]>> Yeah. Because when you look at the plot, it's not that compelling. like just the storyline of like what they're going to do. If you had to describe this movie, it'd be pretty boring probably. You're like, "That movie sounds like it sucks."

[00:01:32]But it's because the characters are so good. You love hanging out with them and seeing how they go about their situations.

[00:01:38]>> Of course, they make the Tarantino, so he makes the situations intense and insane.

[00:01:43]>> Not You know what? Yes. Obviously, he has his moments uh with this film.

[00:01:48]>> This is Quinn Tarantino just kind of catching a little vibe, just kind of living in it, >> you know? He just puts us in a really cool time period that like America knows, loves, and is proud proud of, right? Like I would, you know, I think ' 70s, like late '60s, '7s in Hollywood, like that's that's where we were all just rocking.

[00:02:09]>> That's the most iconic time period.

[00:02:11]>> Everybody like when they think about like how cool America was, they're like that's what they're thinking of.

[00:02:16]>> 70s, the '9s, >> you know, that just that kind of thing.

[00:02:20]But with this movie, it's interesting that this is like like you're kind of sick under the weather movie. For me, this is one of those movies that I throw on like before I go out. It's, you know, essentially like a hangout movie.

[00:02:33]>> Yeah.

[00:02:34]>> But I'm just like, >> not even [clears throat] when I feel sick. It's just if I want something on the if I want a movie on in the background, >> I throw this movie on.

[00:02:42]>> Pretty cool vibes.

[00:02:44]>> I I threw it on yesterday. You know, I try and watch it before we watch it.

[00:02:48]Yeah. Yeah, just so I can do the best I can on the episode. And then I just found myself I was like, "Golly, dude, I've seen this movie so many times." So many times. Like I am just quoting it almost the whole movie.

[00:03:01]So like I literally just started doing chores.

[00:03:04]>> Like I I can just watch it in my head as I'm listening to them talk. Like I can see them still.

[00:03:09]>> And fun fact, a sort of ritual me and Greg do. Every time the movie's name ever drops, we go up and snap and point at the screen.

[00:03:16]>> Yep. This is where it came from.

[00:03:18]>> Okay. Yeah. So, this is where it came from. But then I will say I forgot that lot of killing. Forgot that that's where coming from. Yeah.

[00:03:26]>> Which >> I don't quote that. I quote um what does Cliff Boo say? Um >> why not?

[00:03:35]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:03:35]>> When he's about to smoke his uh acid dip cigarette.

[00:03:38]>> Yeah.

[00:03:39]>> Tonight. Tonight. Why not?

[00:03:41]>> See, I quote, I try.

[00:03:44]>> Yeah. Yeah. You're Oh, you're a good friend. I >> Cliff, you're a good friend.

[00:03:51]>> I try.

[00:03:52]>> Yep.

[00:03:52]>> Um, don't cry in front of the Mexicans.

[00:03:55]>> Mhm. [laughter] >> Yeah.

[00:03:57]>> I don't quite understand what that means. I mean, I think it just means like, hey, those guys are they they work really hard. They don't want to see a white man cry because he can't go to he can't go to Rome and star in Italian films. So, don't don't be Yeah. Don't be don't be crying in front of them.

[00:04:14]But yeah, sometimes I say that >> I'll say to my brother, we me and him always say, "Yeah, I got a flamethrower in my tool shed."

[00:04:22][laughter] >> I tell that to Jacob all the time. But it's like the best kind of hangout movie because >> it's showing you 70s Hollywood vintage.

[00:04:29]Everybody thinks highly upon that time cuz it was so fun. Hollywood's booming.

[00:04:33]Stars like kind of the first time like Hollywood stars are huge. You know, it's a golden age of movies.

[00:04:38]>> Everybody wants to be involved in the movie making business.

[00:04:40]>> The golden age of Hollywood. And so Tarantino gives you that vibe perfectly because you have you get to see Sharon Tate walking about living her like dream life, you know, Hollywood, new Hollywood star, greatest thing in the world. You watch Cliff Booth being the guy that kind of lives the Hollywood dream, driving nice cars, staying in the mansion, even though it's not his, he's living the Hollywood lifestyle. He's [ __ ] he's a badass, right?

[00:05:04]>> And then you have Rick Dalton who is showing you kind of the batter side of Hollywood, like fighting relevance. Mhm.

[00:05:10]>> So you get the entire scope of that time period and through those characters and it's an interesting way to go about it.

[00:05:15]So you're cool just hanging out cuz you can feel and see the vibe of what it was.

[00:05:19]>> I can't believe that yesterday's watch was when I realized like this movie only takes place in like pretty much three days.

[00:05:26]>> Yeah. Like the first day I think it's just kind of the beginning where like you just see like an interview or maybe it is just two. No, no, no. It's three days cuz the first day is an interview with Cliff and Rick and then they go meet up with Alpuccino's character at a bar and then it's the next day and it is just Cliff Booth's day, Rick Dalton's day and Sharon Tate's day >> and that's it.

[00:05:50]>> Then you just fast forward six months >> and then now you're in that day >> and then you're just in that day when they get back to America after you hear about like how uh Italy went and then it's just that day. Yep. So, it's pretty much just a movie about like three days.

[00:06:04]>> Yeah.

[00:06:05]>> Really? Two and a half.

[00:06:06]>> See, this is this movie is a not an insane example of it, but it still is true >> where we were talking the other day. I was talking about like I think what makes a good movie >> and the movies that I like is how the craziest thing that could happen happens next. So, it just continues to build and like somehow gets better. I think Tarantino does it all the time where it's like just the worst thing constantly happens. So, then you're like, what's going to happen next? I didn't even think about, you know, he thinks about the craziest idea you can do. And so even though this movie is not an insane plot, it's still the craziest things you can do in those three days that he points out. So it's just everything gets leveled up, leveled up, leveled up constantly, >> right? Once you kind of realize like, oh, this is just what a day looked like for these three characters.

[00:06:45]>> Rick and Cliff had insanely eventful days. Now Sharon Tate, she was literally just there. I He's just paying respects to her because I think back in the day, I think she was just like beloved, right? Sharon Tate is like an actual real >> Yeah, she got >> she was a real actress and she was involved in the >> the Manson murders.

[00:07:03]>> Yes. Yeah. She actually got killed with her friends.

[00:07:05]>> And I think the country actually was like, >> you know, it like hurt everybody cuz they were like, "Wow, >> she was like Yeah, she was a rising star. She got killed pretty early in her career."

[00:07:15]>> And I think she was like beloved by people. She actually was like just known as like a nice person.

[00:07:21]>> And fun fact, my grandmother went to high school with Sharon Tate. like in the yearbook. They're like next to each other.

[00:07:27]>> Whoa.

[00:07:28]>> Yeah, >> we got to put that in the episode.

[00:07:30]>> I don't I mean, I've seen it with my own eyes, the yearbook, but I haven't I don't have access to it.

[00:07:34]>> Somebody's got to be able to get a picture of that for you.

[00:07:36]>> Maybe addict.

[00:07:38]>> You got to Yeah, you got to send like an emergency like, "Hey, need this." Just just dropped it in the podcast. That's crazy.

[00:07:45]>> Yep. You're in the same class together.

[00:07:46]Like the whole deal >> in where where'd your grandma grow up?

[00:07:50]Where'd she go to school?

[00:07:51]>> They moved around a lot, so I don't know where it was.

[00:07:53]>> Okay. I didn't know if it was like >> Nebraska or something.

[00:07:55]>> That's okay. Don't feel bad about that.

[00:07:57]I [snorts] I there's >> Dude, do you know where your grand >> That's I'm literally saying don't feel bad about that. Like you really I'm trying to think of anybody I know that could just tell me like dude what? Like you don't know where your grandma went to high school?

[00:08:09]>> Yeah. I don't know.

[00:08:10]>> It wasn't in Texas. I know that.

[00:08:12]>> Okay. Actually, >> I don't know.

[00:08:14]>> We can find this out right now by looking up >> where did Sharon Tate go to high school.

[00:08:20]>> You know what? You could look up her yearbook photo and maybe your grandma will just be there like kind of as a side character.

[00:08:28]>> I don't know.

[00:08:31]Washington, El Paso, Texas, and Italy.

[00:08:37]My grandma did live in Italy, but I think she had children in Italy. So, >> people have kids in high school.

[00:08:43]>> No, I don't think she had children [laughter] in high school.

[00:08:47]Anyway, >> um, >> fun fact. There we go. No, that's cool.

[00:08:51]That's cool. Yeah. So, dude, the first time So, I saw this movie in theaters when it came out. Um, I was I still in high school?

[00:09:01]>> I think I was still in high school.

[00:09:02]Yeah. 2018 or maybe 2017.

[00:09:05]>> It's uh 2019. So, you >> I was in college.

[00:09:12]>> Yeah, you were in college. I was, >> but I went with high school buddies like so it must have dropped like during like some type of Christmas or Thanksgiving or some type of break.

[00:09:21]Let's Yeah, let's check that.

[00:09:25]>> It came out in July.

[00:09:26]>> Okay. So, yeah, I'm on summer. Yeah.

[00:09:28]Makes so much sense for this >> back home as a freshman.

[00:09:32]>> Yeah. And so, I went back. I went and saw it with a couple buddies. One of them being like just kind of like my boy Tarantino. Like that's how we really became friends. He's like, "You like Tarantino?" was like, "I love Tarantino." He's like, "I love him, too." So, we go see this film and you know what? I'll be honest with you. 19 or 18, however old I was. Well, I guess I was 19. Um, was not I was a little disappointed by this, you know.

[00:09:56]>> Oh, you disappointed by the movie.

[00:09:58]>> Yeah. You know, I I didn't hate it by any means, but I was like, "Oh, like what?" Cuz I'm so used to just a Tarantino film just being >> crime, >> crazy crime killing like the whole movie. Yeah, pretty much it. Like that's just like a lot of a lot of shootouts and a lot at stake, >> right?

[00:10:17]>> And I was just like, what the [ __ ] Like we just watched them like kick it in Hollywood like but it is aged beautifully and the Tarantino and I I I'm sure there were so many other people that felt that way when it came out.

[00:10:33]>> Yeah.

[00:10:33]>> Also just one of those things where like I wasn't used to the cast. You know, with Tarantino films, you typically get like his regulars coming in. You don't really get that with this one. In fact, a lot of the like the Manson side characters, I have no idea who they are >> at the time.

[00:10:50]>> At the time.

[00:10:51]>> Yeah. Right.

[00:10:52]>> Which is also just insane. Like he has Let's look. Let's Let's see like Butler.

[00:10:58]You get Austin Butler >> who I he's not a nobody. None of them are nobodyies. No. But to a 19-year-old that like does not give a damn about like famous people or what's going on in Hollywood, like just I like my movies, that's it. I don't really care about like what's coming out unless it's like crazy crazy.

[00:11:14]>> Now you're on a podcast.

[00:11:15]>> Yeah. But now you get Austin Butler, Sydney Sweeney, >> Margaret Quali, >> right? Yeah, she's big. And then >> Dakota Fanning.

[00:11:26]>> Is Dakota Fanning in this?

[00:11:27]>> She's the one at the door. H. And then uh Ethan Hawk's daughter, >> Maya Hawk.

[00:11:35]>> Maya Hawk. Who? Daughter of Kill Bill.

[00:11:38]>> Yeah. [laughter] >> Um >> the girl What's a girl from Anora?

[00:11:44]>> You love it. You love her.

[00:11:45]>> I've never seen Anora. Don't even >> Great actress.

[00:11:48]>> Don't try to ruin my marriage.

[00:11:49]>> Yeah. No, I I actually I did see Anora and she >> Mikey Mikey Matt Madison.

[00:11:55]>> Mikey Madison. crazy talented cuz she is I'm literally just thinking of her and this versus Anora. Completely different people. Not even the same voice.

[00:12:05]>> Yeah.

[00:12:05]>> So very impressive. But yeah, like just to have that kind of cast and nobody knows who they are and then we look up in a few years and they're all they're just all over the place.

[00:12:15]>> I mean truly Once Upon a Time in the Hollywood this show, all the legends are in it. You got Pacino, you got Kurt Russell, you got Cabrio and Brad Pitt who Tarantino said were the two most exciting duos in a movie.

[00:12:30]>> Yeah.

[00:12:30]>> Which I mean it is you put Leo and Brad in a movie like let's go. I'm watching that movie.

[00:12:35]>> Well, yeah. Especially just at that time like I'm thinking just for Leo at that time I was like bro he is everybody was just in agreement that Leonardo DiCaprio is the best actor ever. He was on the craziest run that we've seen of anybody. I feel like just at that time like every Leo that movie that came out I was so obsessed with.

[00:12:56]>> Yep.

[00:12:57]>> Um so with the best Yeah. then you throw Brad Pitt into it and plus you've already seen what QT can write up for a guy like Leo >> and so you're just pumped.

[00:13:09]>> Y >> um but yeah, so I say all that to say that I was disappointed. just I was a dumb kid that didn't appreciate what he was going for, which is something different.

[00:13:19]>> Yeah. No, I automatically loved it just hanging out with Leo's character and Brad Pip, >> both playing just fun characters. Like, it's just good. Then you obviously get Tarantino action at the end.

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[00:14:46]>> This is like this but this is his most meta movie. Like he almost criticizes his own career. He kind of criticizes like Hollywood how it all works. like he has some callbacks to his uh older movies like Kurt Russell and Zoe Bell being like the stunt coordinators or you know working in the stunts because in >> Death Proof >> Death Proof >> Stunt Man Mike that was Kurt Russell and then Zoe Bell played herself as a stunt woman.

[00:15:10]>> Yeah.

[00:15:11]>> And so you have that kind of call back to his old to his career. Um, >> well, I think Cliff Booth was like based on Kurt Russell's stunt man, whether it was in Death Proof or just something.

[00:15:24]>> I Yeah, I heard The only thing I know about that is I've heard Tarantino mention that when he was on a movie set or something, he saw like a leading actor and a stunt man just like sitting back, smoking a cigarette, hanging out.

[00:15:36]>> Yeah.

[00:15:37]>> He's like, "They've been together for like 20 years and they've just been best friends hanging out on set." He's like, "That's a really cool relationship." And then that's where this movie idea was born. Was that between that relationship?

[00:15:46]>> Was it not Kurt Russell?

[00:15:48]>> I don't know. I don't know who it was.

[00:15:50]>> Like >> I just know that backstory.

[00:15:52]>> Okay. I'd heard that. That could just be completely made up as things can be on the internet. But I I saw like it was Kurt Russell. He had something where the role was like a eye patch too. And so the stunt man also had eye patch on. But yeah, they were just hanging out.

[00:16:08]>> Yeah. Just chilling.

[00:16:09]>> Yeah.

[00:16:09]>> Always traveling together. Always working together. between takes they just chitchat and hang out. Just two boys.

[00:16:15]>> Then you have the scene when Rick is playing the bad guy >> and you're watching him play like an evil character, but you like it cuz we like Rick. That's kind of Leo's that's Leo's career within Tarantino playing Calvin Candy evil role but we just like Leo. We want to see him play a bad guy cuz he's so good at it. Yeah.

[00:16:32]>> So when you watch Rick do that, you know, Leo playing Rick playing this character kind of all the same thing within Leon DiCaprio's like resume.

[00:16:39]>> Yeah.

[00:16:39]>> So that's kind of getting super meta.

[00:16:41]>> Yeah. within the movie.

[00:16:42]>> Oh, dude. This this time around watching this movie, I was like, you know what?

[00:16:47]Every time I go into this movie, I'm always just excited to hang out with Cliff.

[00:16:50]>> Yeah.

[00:16:51]>> I appreciate Rick, but I'm always excited to hang out with Cliff. On this watch, I was like, I'm really just going to see what it's like to hang out with Rick. So, I just like really I paid way more attention to him. Leonardo DiCaprio because look, he's he's used to doing like kind of drama roles for the most part. He's he's done some very brutal roles. I'm thinking like The Revenant, I think Aviator. Um just roles like that.

[00:17:17]Um he did the Gangs of New York. That's a brutal role. Um The Departed. Nothing funny in that for his character.

[00:17:25]>> Yep.

[00:17:26]>> But then you do get the occasional Oh, and like in Django, he's kind of out there, but he's so evil. It's really not funny, right?

[00:17:34]>> And you know, incredibly racist, too.

[00:17:36]And it's just like, well, we're not necessarily laughing at Leo's character here. We're more just like, wow, that's crazy that he can transform like that.

[00:17:44]>> Right.

[00:17:44]>> Then in Wolf of Wall Street, I think you do actually get a sense of the fact that Leo is funny.

[00:17:50]>> Yes, >> Leonardo DiCaprio is funny, >> but you absolutely get it in this film.

[00:17:56]I am crying, laughing. I I don't understand like cuz Quinn does like these really, really long takes too.

[00:18:03]>> Mhm. So, you know, props to to Brad Pitt, too, but like just the opening, not the opening scene, but after the Alpuccino meeting and they're in the parking lot and he just starts crying and he puts his head into Brad's uh shoulder. He's like, I got to go to [ __ ] Rome and shoot Italian western, you know, and he just does that voice.

[00:18:23]He's breaking. He's crying.

[00:18:25]>> Leonardo DiCaprio is funny.

[00:18:28]>> He is funny.

[00:18:28]>> Incredibly funny. the trailer scene where he's throwing [ __ ] all over and he's like th he's like, "If you drink one more goddamn drink, I'll blow your [ __ ] brains out."

[00:18:38]>> All improv.

[00:18:39]>> Yeah, he's funny.

[00:18:40]>> He's funny, but >> he's just such he's such a crazy actor.

[00:18:45]And Quinton Tarantino is clearly having fun in this movie.

[00:18:48]>> Y >> because these western shots that he's doing with Leo, >> they're they look literally they just look like Django.

[00:18:56]>> Yeah. um everything and >> which makes sense because Django is based off of all the old westerns that >> right >> you know Rick Dalton is starring in.

[00:19:04]>> Yeah. And so but then Leo is pretty much just showing off to these people how good of an actor he is.

[00:19:11]>> Yep.

[00:19:12]>> Playing >> a bad actor >> playing a villain that's played by an insecure drunk stuttering actor who has had a good career. like just all this and Leo is like interweaving acting like he's forgotten lines and stuff.

[00:19:28]>> Y >> it's incredible to watch.

[00:19:30]>> So yeah, then you have Rick being a >> actor that's kind of past his prime, but there's a new up and cominging director in Italy that takes a chance on him and you know now it restarts his career basically.

[00:19:43]>> Yeah, >> that's what Tarantino's done his whole career. Tarantino's brought on like John Travolta was past his prime, brought him in for pole fiction. But it won a minute. But he's like, I want a minute.

[00:19:52]>> David Keredine, you know, after Kung Fu, his career, then he came back for Kill Bill. Robert Forester, Robert Forester and Pam Greer and Jackie Brown. They used to star in movies. They weren't really that relevant anymore. Brings them on to one of his movies. Then even Kristoff Waltz like before Glorious Bastards you know he was looking for somebody could not find it and then he found Kristoff Waltz who you know was kind of past his prime wasn't really getting huge movies like he wasn't getting Hollywood and boom I did not think about that that's so sick >> so Rick Dalton's playing the people that >> QT go used to go for you know now he's kind of I guess he will if he has the opportunity for it but >> he's cool working with the big stars.

[00:20:34]>> Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, everybody that he's brought on were big stars at one point. They're still They're still big.

[00:20:39]>> Yeah.

[00:20:39]>> Um, in the scene where Cliff Booth goes up to Spawn Ranch from a Tarantino movie, Tarantino like, you know, he's so aware of how the audience is perceiving a movie, he likes he always talks about like the roller coaster of emotions, like funny, then tense, then scary, and then brutal, and then funny again. You know, he just rides this roller coaster of emotions. So, >> you get everything.

[00:21:00]>> Yeah. He he keeps the audience's like emotion in the of the movie very intentional when he writes. And so with the Spawn Ranch thing, the way he builds it, it's just like a Tarantino scene where it starts off like you're in a weird spot, a lot of tension builds and then something brutally violent happens.

[00:21:16]>> Yeah.

[00:21:16]>> So we we can expect that at Spawn Ranch where the Manson family is, >> right?

[00:21:21]>> But because he knows that we're feeling that way, the payoff is that it's not that. It's an old man that's just content with his life and he's like, "Get the hell out of here." You're like, "Oh, whoa." He said, "What does he say?"

[00:21:31]He's like, "She loves me, so suck on that." [laughter] >> Yeah. Which that character was supposed to be played by Bert Reynolds, >> but he passed away before they filmed it.

[00:21:41]>> Bert.

[00:21:42]>> I mean, you know, I can see it cuz Bert's incredibly talented, but no, no, that that old that old that old man I say that I feel terrible because he is not only somebody that I've seen in so many things, but he's been in other Quentyn Tarantino films. Bert Reynolds.

[00:21:59]>> Not Bert Reynolds, the guy that we do get in this film. Yeah, he's big and hateful late and then he Yeah, he's in Django, even if just for a little bit, but QT just always showing like nope, >> I do keep my guy like he has uh Michael Manson in in this >> Madson.

[00:22:19]>> Madson.

[00:22:21]>> Sorry, too many too many people.

[00:22:23]>> Yeah, one of the heavies in Bounty Law.

[00:22:25]Yeah, but like just QT is just like ah there you go. I I got something for you.

[00:22:31]>> Yeah.

[00:22:31]>> Um Yeah. And Spawn Ranch I think. Yeah.

[00:22:35]Like I still watch this movie remembering it for the first time thinking like damn I remember what I thought was about to happen here because you I thought it was just going to be a really messed up movie on Quinton's part that like it's so nice and you're pretty much falling in love with Sharon Tate.

[00:22:53]>> Mhm. And then Cliff gets to the ranch and I'm like, >> "Okay, it's time to it's time to >> lock in.

[00:23:01]>> Lock it. Lock in. It's about to get really messed up now."

[00:23:04]>> So Tarantino is aware of that. So he's, you know, subverting our expectations because he knows what his movies are like.

[00:23:09]>> Yeah.

[00:23:10]>> Um then he even might he might even be kind of hinting about his career sort of and the finale. This is getting super subtextual, but like Cliff Booth defends the house really. Like he beats up everybody, but then Rick Daw comes out with the flamethrower. He gets the hero shot. Then at the end, he kind of gets the credit for it when he's talking to Sharon Taton, Jay Sebring.

[00:23:31]>> And so, and Tarantino is famous for saying, "If you want to be a director, you don't have to know [ __ ] about cameras. You don't got to know about lenses, lighting, none of that stuff.

[00:23:40]All you need to know is how to tell your story, and you hire the best people to do all those other things you don't know. So he's very open about, you know, the set is huge when it comes to my productions. Like I need the best people to work with me. And so, but he when he makes a movie, he always gets the credit. You know, it's a Tarantino movie, even though everybody that made it look really good wasn't Tarantino.

[00:24:01]>> Yeah.

[00:24:01]>> Just a good story from him. He knows how to direct it.

[00:24:04]>> So like he gets the fame. So he might even be like critiquing his own >> name in the final scene how Rick Dalton kind of fairy tale at the end. He's like, >> but I get all the credit cuz I'm Rick Dalton. Tarantino is so interesting to me because everybody knows that he I don't want to say steals shots from other people because I think QT is like I think he just loves film so much that he really is just replicating it. He's just paying Yeah. He's just being, you know, he's paying homage to him and >> being honorable in that aspect.

[00:24:37]>> But he does just use people's shots.

[00:24:40]>> Yep. And I actually this time around I noticed something that I've never caught before. I've never I've never seen anybody else talk about it. And I'm sure it's absolutely intentional because it's Quinton Tarantino. But we get Aluccino in this film and he doesn't play like a major role by any means. He's just there. And it's just kind of nice to have Aluccino share the screen with Leonardo DiCaprio.

[00:25:03]>> Yep.

[00:25:04]>> Two things that I noticed that I thought were really cool. one, Leonardo DiCaprio, Rick Dalton, he's talking to Aluccino's character and they are just kind of flashing back to like all these projects that Rick Dalton has done.

[00:25:16]>> Yep.

[00:25:17]>> And one of them is when Rick Dalton plays some type of Nazi killing character, which we know Quinton Tarantino is big on that. We knows he we know that he loves >> somehow incorporating somebody just killing a bunch of Nazis into a film.

[00:25:33]>> Yep. Well, in that scene, you see Leonardo DiCaprio like kind of at the top of a staircase and then he comes out with a flamethrower and he kills a room full of Nazis. But right before he does it, he says like something about >> Anybody ordered fried sauerkraut?

[00:25:49]>> Yeah. Did anybody order fried sauerkraut?

[00:25:52]He's telling and this is Leonardo DiCaprio sharing screen with Alpuccino while this happens. And I'm wondering I think that they're like paying respect to Scarface >> Alpuccino end of the movie comes out say hello to my little friend and then ms everybody down at the top of a staircase.

[00:26:12]>> Right.

[00:26:13]>> So there's that and I was like totally.

[00:26:16]Yeah.

[00:26:16]>> Absolutely. That's what's going on there. Yeah.

[00:26:18]>> But then the second thing >> and Tarantino is a big Brian de Palama fan.

[00:26:22]>> Okay.

[00:26:23]>> Who made Scarface.

[00:26:24]>> Okay. So >> and made Blowout this movie that I haven't seen it yet. I keep some on my like list that I >> What is it >> called? A blowout with John Travolta.

[00:26:31]Like the re he said this John Travolta's best performance.

[00:26:34]>> I want to watch it.

[00:26:35]>> Yeah, >> we'll watch that. We'll watch that. Um so yeah. Okay. So he absolutely that's what's going on there. He's like, "Dude, I got Leo >> with on sharing the screen with Alpuccino." What? That's crazy. Right.

[00:26:49]So he does that. But then the other thing that I noticed is that that scene where Alpuccino's character is pretty much just telling Leo what it is and they're just getting real with each other.

[00:27:00]>> You know what that she what that scene looks like?

[00:27:03]>> Heat.

[00:27:04]>> Robert Dairo talking to Alpuccino while they're having just a cup of coffee.

[00:27:08]Yeah.

[00:27:08]>> The way that it's shot like I'm thinking of Leo specifically. You can see like it's shot over Alpuccino's shoulder and just the whole thing is literally shot like exactly like that. M yeah. Yeah.

[00:27:20]>> I was like that's this is you know this is Quentyn Tarantino in his head. He's like well you know the whole world was looking forward to Alpuccino sharing the screen with Robert Dairo. Those are two great. Well now I get it with Alpuccino and Leonardo DiCaprio.

[00:27:40]>> Yep.

[00:27:40]>> So >> thought that was really cool and and I >> wholeheartedly believe that that was all intentional.

[00:27:47]>> Yeah. 100%.

[00:27:48]>> Yeah. And then it's funny too, the when when Leo's using the flamethrower, the little cutaway when he's like complaining about the heat, that was just Leo's genuine reaction to the flamethrower being too hot. And Tarino thought it was funny, so he just kept it in.

[00:28:02]>> Okay. So, I didn't know if if I knew that already or not, but I almost said it while we were watching the movie.

[00:28:08]>> You were sure if it was real?

[00:28:10]>> No, I was just like, dude, that look like that just looks like Leo. Like his clothes, everything.

[00:28:16]>> Looked at the guy behind him. stating character called him Rick.

[00:28:19]>> Yeah. But like I thought that was But that also just shows me how good of an actor Leo is >> cuz you can't tell.

[00:28:26]>> Well, just in that I'm like, dude, that just he doesn't really that just looks like Leonardo DiCaprio.

[00:28:31]Like he kind of drops a little bit of the voice, but how how's that really possible? Like just the way that he's standing and reacting to this. Like I can tell that's not Leonardo DiCaprio acting. That's just Leo, >> right? But either way, when Leo is acting, you can't tell the difference between like a genu genuine reaction that he has, which you can tell just because it's genuine, you must have like a sick sense to like I feel like to see if somebody's being genuine. But when Leo's just acting, it's still the same believability.

[00:29:00]>> Yeah.

[00:29:00]>> Which really shows you how good of an actor he is. When he's being real, you're like, "Oh, he probably just acted that." [clears throat] >> Mhm.

[00:29:05]>> But nope, that was real. You can't tell the difference.

[00:29:08]>> That's funny.

[00:29:10]And then, okay, this is kind of, this is a crazy story from the real Spawn Ranch and then how Tarantino tied it a little bit in this movie. On the real Spawn Ranch, there was a there's one ranch hand that worked there. His name was uh Shorty Sheay. And so, he worked there and he actually tried to be the one that warned George Spawn about having the Manson family living at Spawn Ranch. And so in this movie, well, I guess, yeah, in this movie, the guy that plays Clim, who's the one that stuck the knife in Rick Dalton's car, >> you know, with and fights and Cliff beat him up.

[00:29:45]>> [ __ ] you.

[00:29:46]>> That guy ended up jumping and killing Shorty Shay, the ranch hand at Spawn Ranch, and they scattered his body around the ranch to like hide the evidence.

[00:29:55]But in this movie in the background you can see one cowboy in the uh like salon I think it was where with the horses or something and you see him there. So like that would have been Shorty Shay. So Tarantino is probably >> including him there in the background.

[00:30:10]He's he's the one uh ranch hand that worked there that tried to warn George Bond. Dude, >> there's so much I like what what was the Manson cult? What were they about? What did they believe in?

[00:30:24]Let's see.

[00:30:25]>> Yeah, because I all I know is the murders. I don't really know much.

[00:30:30]>> I know about I know a little bit about like the I've heard stuff about like the MK Ultra [ __ ] where the CIA was >> I haven't even heard anything about that.

[00:30:36]>> They were like giving people like LSD and like without letting them know and like seeing if they could get into mind control [ __ ] Just a lot of weird testing they would do. And Charlie Charles Manson was a part of the MK Ultra. Like he was one of the test subjects. He was one that was like going out. He was involved in >> know how to control people's minds.

[00:30:54]>> They think they [ __ ] him up, put [ __ ] in his mind, but then he got out and then still had a [ __ ] up mind like did all this [ __ ] because of what happened with him and the CIA.

[00:31:05]>> Scary, bro.

[00:31:05]>> Allegedly, >> I've just seen interviews with Charles Manson. He's very cocky individual, that guy.

[00:31:11]>> Very charismatic.

[00:31:12]>> That too.

[00:31:14]>> So, the Manson family was an apocalyptic cult active in the late 1960s. Their core ideology was a bizarre, dangerous fusion of the counterculture free love movement, occultism, twisted interpretations of pop culture, and extreme radical supremacy.

[00:31:29]Uh, at the center of their belief systems were several core tenants.

[00:31:32]Charles Manson convinced his followers that an apocalyp apocalyptic race war was imminent. Race war.

[00:31:39]>> Race war.

[00:31:39]>> Yeah. He believed >> that leads to the end of the world.

[00:31:42]>> Yep. He believed the black population would rise up to overthrow the white establishment in a catastrophic war. He termed this war helter skelter.

[00:31:50]Borrowing the phrase from the Beatles 1968 song. [snorts] >> I said that's really catchy.

[00:31:55]>> He prophesies during that war or during the war his followers would hide in an underground city in Death Valley. After the conflict decimated both sides of the Manson family would emerge to rule over the survivors.

[00:32:08]Manon presented himself to his followers as a second coming of Jesus Christ.

[00:32:12]>> There it is. He brainwashed them into believing the family members were the reincarnation of the original Christians.

[00:32:19]Manson believed members of the Beatles were modern-day prophets. He claimed the lyrics on on their self-titled white album contained hidden messages directly addressing the family and signaling that Helter Skelter was about to begin.

[00:32:32]When the preceding race war failed to erupt naturally by the summer of 1969, Manson directed his followers to commit a series of gruesome high-profile murders, including the Tate and Laianca murders. He instructed them to stage the crime scene, such as writing words in blood to look like they were committed by black militants, intending to frame them, and spark the apocalypse himself.

[00:32:55]>> There's a little history lesson on Charles Manson.

[00:32:59]Bro, [sighs] [ __ ] that guy.

[00:33:03]>> Apparently, who was it? Somebody was in prison, like a actor. It was the dude that plays Machete.

[00:33:11]Uh, uh, >> Machete.

[00:33:14]>> Yeah.

[00:33:15]>> I don't think I know who that is.

[00:33:17]There's a character that just, >> you know, Machete. Danny Tjo.

[00:33:22]>> What?

[00:33:23]>> You know Danny Tjo?

[00:33:26]This guy.

[00:33:28]Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah.

[00:33:30]>> Apparently, I wish I knew the story better. Apparently, he was like in prison with Charlie Manson. They're like in the same prison.

[00:33:37]>> I think they calling him Charlie.

[00:33:40][laughter] >> That's what people always say when I'm listening to like podcast and [ __ ] >> Oh. Oh, Charlie boy.

[00:33:44]>> I guess I'm retelling the story. That's what he called him. Charlie.

[00:33:47]>> Yeah. Yeah. And so they protected him because apparently Charlie had the ability to make you feel like you could have like a like a shot of heroin. He could say words and like hypnotize you enough to where you would feel like you were on heroin.

[00:34:05]>> So they were like, "Don't [ __ ] with this guy. He's getting me through prison."

[00:34:07]>> Yeah. And so they they protect him because he would do this to them. And people that take heroin, they say like the first time you do it, you puke.

[00:34:15]>> Uhhuh. And these guys when Charlie Manson would hypnotize him or whatever, they would puke just like they would on heroin.

[00:34:20]>> For real.

[00:34:20]>> He said, "But if a guy didn't ever has never done heroin, he could still feel it, but he wouldn't puke."

[00:34:25]>> Oh, so you had to do heroin and then meet Charles Manson and then he could bring you back to heroin.

[00:34:31]>> Or I think he did it to guys that hadn't done heroin before and they would still feel it. They just wouldn't have the puking thing.

[00:34:36]>> So I guess it's tied to your experience with it. Regardless, that's what they he like apparently had this power with of the mind, which makes sense of how he's able to, >> you know, he obviously has some very persuasive, manipulative way to talk to you to like trick your mind.

[00:34:49]>> That's like a thing that like you can like O's Pearlman >> the mentalist like he's >> putting things in your mind to trick you.

[00:34:59]>> He's setting you up in a way to where you like think of the thing he wants you to think of. Maybe there's some body language reading he does. Who knows? But mentalism is like persuading people. And think about the CIA operatives that go in there. They can just like manipulate.

[00:35:14]>> Yeah. Just with words. Interrogators.

[00:35:16]>> I don't know. I've seen one interview with Charles Manson and he was just like all over the place. Well, I say all over the place. He was he'd just act out like kind of crazy, but then he would bring it back and I could see kind of the charisma.

[00:35:31]>> Mhm.

[00:35:32]>> Was like, "Oh, this guy he is well spoken. I see. You got to be if you're going to be a cult leader.

[00:35:37]>> Yeah.

[00:35:37]>> You got to be charismatic.

[00:35:39]>> I still I mean I remember the first time I saw him in this film.

[00:35:44]>> Shiver me timbers, bro. I I got goosebumps. And this is me. I don't even really know much about him. I think at the time I looked him up because, you know, it this movie was kind of everybody was expecting it to be Quinton Tarantino's take on the Manson murders.

[00:36:00]>> Yeah.

[00:36:00]>> So people were really nervous about what Quinton Tarantino might do. He's going to like stylize her murder. But this is what's so good about the movie. The Manson family is in the background the entire time.

[00:36:10]>> And so the tension's building because it shows the date.

[00:36:14]>> If you know the story, you would probably know the date. And so then at the end of the movie >> says the date and the time. You're like, "Fuck, here it comes." Yep.

[00:36:22]>> You're like, you're not ready. Like you're nervous for how brutal this is about to be because you know history.

[00:36:27]But then he switches it up at the end and you get this insane action sequence where they just beat the [ __ ] out of him and you're like, "Oh shit."

[00:36:33]>> It's so satisfying.

[00:36:35]>> I remember watching it being like, "Oh [ __ ] here we go." And then I'm like, "Oh [ __ ] that was cool."

[00:36:39]>> Yeah. No, you're you're horrified because it's it's Marggo Robbie and she's just playing this character perfectly obviously.

[00:36:45]>> Y >> she's just full of life. Everybody loves her and now she's pregnant and you're already feeling bad for her because it's a really hot day and it's like a she didn't even want to be out and about, you know, poor. Did somebody get that lady in bed now?

[00:36:59]>> Yeah.

[00:36:59]>> I'm tired of seeing her act like she's happy.

[00:37:03]>> And then they run into Cliff. Now you're having fun cuz they're just getting the [ __ ] beat out of them cuz they're weird.

[00:37:10]>> Um so yeah, like that was really nice.

[00:37:13]It was really nice of him to do. He really just, you know, it's a movie, so you can get away with like just his historical inaccuracies. So, there's that, his take on that. He's like, "This is how I wish it would have gone down."

[00:37:25]>> Mhm.

[00:37:27]>> Then there's a little bit of controversy in this film. A lot of lot of Bruce Lee lovers out there did not like this film.

[00:37:36]>> It doesn't make sense to me.

[00:37:38]>> You don't Are you one of them?

[00:37:40]>> No, I don't. It doesn't make sense of why they're mad.

[00:37:43]>> Why? Okay. I think they're mad because Quinton Tarantino made him look like an [ __ ] >> I know, but you have, but if you watch the movie, >> it's Cliff Booth remembering something.

[00:37:55]>> So, it's very clearly Cliff Booth's memory.

[00:37:58]>> There you go. Go get him.

[00:37:58]>> And so, the disrespectful parts of Bruce Lee is how Cliff Booth would have remembered Bruce Lee if they had an altercation. Cuz Cliff Booth thinks he's the man. He does stunts, right? So, in Cliff Booth's mind, >> Bruce Lee is a loudmouth douchebag.

[00:38:12]>> Yeah. and he beat the [ __ ] out of him.

[00:38:14]>> Yeah. And [clears throat] then, you know, he kind exaggerate like it's pretty insane to think that like you could throw a lead actor against a car who's like skilled in martial arts, >> right?

[00:38:25]>> So, >> it's a memory. So, you have to take that into consideration. It's not literally a Bruce Lee like in the scene of like what would be real life in the movie doing that. It was a memory.

[00:38:35]>> That's pretty good. I like that. I've never thought about that before. Was Bruce Lee known as an [ __ ] Uh Tarantino said that thinks he was pretty cocky. That's why he because when people were criticizing him he's like he was first off >> you know Tarantino dying on dying on the hill.

[00:38:53]>> Yeah.

[00:38:53]>> He'll never back down from >> Right. Yeah. Of course.

[00:38:56]>> But I'm also look man like I've >> I'm not crazy like in the Hollywood business like that. But like I've worked on enough commercial sets even some film sets like to see what it takes to really be an actor. You have to be charismatic.

[00:39:10]You have to be extremely confident like I mean almost like godly confident where it's like dude how are you just waking up like not insecure like how do you do this >> and like those are just the things. So it's like that's not a horrible take that and you also have to be just kind of out there. You just have to have like that it factor and like that from what I've seen is like that's what it takes.

[00:39:35]Mhm.

[00:39:36]>> So Bruce Lee being a guy that commands a room, he's also the lead in whatever series that Cliff Booth is remembering, like so obviously like he's probably got some stories to tell.

[00:39:47]>> He's, you know, an expert in hand to hand martial arts. So like it would make sense that he would have these hot takes.

[00:39:55]>> And some of the criticism I think Bruce Lee gets and maybe Tarantino's kind of taking it from I'm not saying this, this is criticism other people say. So Bruce Lee fans don't get mad at me.

[00:40:03]>> Yeah. But people will argue that like Bruce Lee knows martial arts but he does it for movies versus he doesn't actually fight like a UFC fighter like I could take Bruce Lee cuz they're banging every day like for real.

[00:40:16]>> Yeah, >> Bruce Lee's in movies even though he has train. He is black belt and whatever and martial art guy. That's like some of the criticism that. So Tarantino is probably playing into that. I mean he likes a few Bruce Lee movies. I don't there's some he doesn't like but >> dude remember I think he like I think he likes Bruce Lee. It's just that he's um you know he's very honest with his opinion.

[00:40:36]>> Sure.

[00:40:36]>> He doesn't cut he doesn't make things sweet for no reason.

[00:40:38]>> Maybe. I mean look I I saw he went on Joe Rogan's show and I think Joe Rogan had like criticized Quinton Tarantino for doing this in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. And I think he was like can you believe he did that? Why'd he do that? You know and then he gets Quinton on the show and Joe Rogan you know he was like all right like why'd you do that? And I don't know what the full answer was, but I do know that Quinton, all he said was he was like, you know, his daughter had a problem with that.

[00:41:06]And that that makes sense. I totally understand why his daughter would be offended by that.

[00:41:11]>> Right.

[00:41:12]>> But everyone else, [ __ ] off. [laughter] >> Yeah.

[00:41:15]>> Suck my dick. Like, I don't care what you think.

[00:41:18]>> Yeah. I mean, I think it's just it's literally >> But I think about I think about Kill Bill. You know, we had um there's that that video that I watched and we talked about on the Kill Bill episode about how it's like pretty much like a Bruce Lee revenge story.

[00:41:33]>> Mhm.

[00:41:35]>> I think way too many things went into Kill Bill for that to just be a theory.

[00:41:39]Like part of me thinks that like that is Quinton Tarantino, the underlying kind of genius. So like I think there's just plenty of respect and Bruce Lee is so beloved in Hollywood.

[00:41:48]>> Yeah. And again, if if Bruce Lee was the badass, like, you know, came off in the best way possible in Cliff's memory, be like, damn, Cliff's an [ __ ] but you want to like Cliff, so you got to have him fight a guy that's kind of full of himself.

[00:42:01]>> Yeah.

[00:42:02]>> You know, it's that's just dumb controversy. The family, okay, I get it, I guess. But like for real, it was a freaking memory.

[00:42:08]>> I know. I know. But it is just that depiction. I mean, you have Bruce Lee like, you know what it is? It's him going like and then Cliff going and then throws him against the car or I guess he's already thrown him against the car, but like >> he's just being made fun of. And then he talks about himself in the third person, which is like the douchiest thing you could ever do. I said, first off, >> Bruce Lee was not getting his ass whooped.

[00:42:34]>> Yeah.

[00:42:34]>> Just Bruce Lee fans hated that.

[00:42:37]>> And uh what's funny, Bruce Lee's line when he says, "You're too pretty to be a stunt man." Bert Reynolds actually came up with that line because Bert Reynolds was casted but he passed away before they could shoot it.

[00:42:50]>> And so Bert Reynolds came up with that line, you know, joke like giving Brad Pit a hard time like you're too pretty to be a stunt man. Like suggested that line thinking it was good. And Quint Tarantino said it would have never made the movie unless Bruce unless Bert Reynolds didn't say it >> because it came from Bert Reynolds.

[00:43:04]We're going to put it in the movie.

[00:43:05]>> Nice.

[00:43:06]>> To honor him.

[00:43:06]>> He respect Dude. See, he respects everybody.

[00:43:09]>> Mhm.

[00:43:10]>> He respects everybody. Um I think >> except for Paul do >> who?

[00:43:17]>> Tarantino.

[00:43:18]>> Who's Paul Dano?

[00:43:19]>> That's the guy he criticized saying he's the worst actor in Hollywood.

[00:43:22]>> Yeah.

[00:43:23]>> Yeah. There will be blood. That >> was a [ __ ] performance.

[00:43:25]>> Yeah. That Yeah. That poor guy.

[00:43:27]>> That poor guy.

[00:43:28]>> Just out of nowhere just like throwing just straight shade for like literally no reason.

[00:43:34]>> Yeah. And it's it is a good performance too. So >> like he could have just like he could have just been like you know D Lewis phenomenal performance. It's like almost overshadows the other actors because it's so good. Leave it there buddy.

[00:43:49]>> Daniel de Lewis just God I'm just feeling so bad for his character that he's having to share the screen with this piece of [ __ ] >> Also isn't the point Yeah. Isn't the point that Daniel is like this unstoppable force? Like nobody can live up to Daniel's greed and hunger for more.

[00:44:04]>> Yeah. Anyway, >> we love that movie. That's a good That's a good role by Paul Do. I know >> Quinn Tarantino is wrong. I actually I don't think I agree with a lot of things that Quinton Tarantino probably stands for, but [laughter] >> the guy the guy makes good movies. I really I don't even know what I don't I I don't know like the beliefs of Quinton Tarantino.

[00:44:25]>> He's Jewish.

[00:44:26]>> I try to not do that to myself.

[00:44:29]>> He lives in he has a house in LA in Israel.

[00:44:32]>> Tricky tricky tricky tricky. actually lives in Israel.

[00:44:37]>> Feel like I've heard that too.

[00:44:39]>> I don't care, dude. I just I'll just try and watch the movie.

[00:44:42]>> Yeah, just honestly I do that with pretty much all celebr I don't really try to pay attention to what celebrities are doing.

[00:44:50]>> Doesn't matter >> because one I've tried to pay attention what they do just to like I I guess like kind of fit in and you know be cool, have something to offer at the table. Then I was like, "Wow, I truly don't care.

[00:45:05]>> I truly could care less about this."

[00:45:08]Agreed.

[00:45:09]>> So like Quentina, like I even we read his book in college.

[00:45:14]>> I tried.

[00:45:14]>> I tried. Yeah. Hold on. Let me Let me fix that. I It was really cool at the beginning because And it was really cool at the beginning. I don't know what exactly turned me off. I think I was expecting more Quinton Tarantino like knowledge.

[00:45:28]>> Yes, I was. And I was enjoying it because there were Yeah, we still have it up there. That's so embarrassing.

[00:45:34]That's so No, that's not embarrassing.

[00:45:36]That's funny that we have a book up there and neither one of us had finished it, but we still were like, "Let's put that in the background."

[00:45:43]>> Yeah.

[00:45:43]>> Um I was enjoying it because I recognized a lot of the films that uh he mentioned that I was a big fan of. So, I thought that was cool to like kind of hear him like breaking them down. I don't know what turned me off. I mean, dude, that was like four years ago that I tried to read, but I think it was more just like, "Holy [ __ ] Quinton Tarantino just has a whole book about movies that he likes."

[00:46:03]>> Movie criticism.

[00:46:04]>> Yeah.

[00:46:05]>> Yeah.

[00:46:05]>> I enjoyed like his background. I Yeah, I remember that in the book. He just like kind of talks about like this is what I did as a kid. This is how I grew up.

[00:46:14]>> You know how like in the in the book he talks about him going to like adult movie theaters? Yes. As a child.

[00:46:20]>> And I remember him talking about like going to like kind of like the the all black theaters like in LA. Yeah.

[00:46:25]>> How much more fun they were >> in the movie when they're walking there like when JC bring tells uh Sharon Tate, oh, they're doing an adult movie premiere over there. It's like adult movies have premieres. Apparently Tarantino owns that adult movie theater.

[00:46:39]It's have a different name than they say in the movie, but apparently he owns that theater. I don't know if it's an adult movie theater, but he owns that theater. [laughter] Whatever it is. I mean, but what I read suggested it was an adult movie theater.

[00:46:51]>> QT owns an adult movie theater. I mean, if there's been one in Hollywood that's been there forever, would they just keep it there?

[00:46:57]>> Yeah. I mean, I I don't know.

[00:46:59]>> I don't know either. But >> one doesn't like him owning a theater doesn't surprise me. Him owning a theater that is also an adult movie theater also does not surprise me.

[00:47:09]>> No, >> he he's an interesting character that Quinton Tarantino guy >> just overwhelmingly let you know I love Pete.

[00:47:17]>> Yeah, >> that's an odd thing to just >> It's just really in there >> consistently.

[00:47:21]>> Consistently. Yeah. like his first, you know, he did that film with Robert Rodriguez, Till uh Dust Till Dawn.

[00:47:28]>> Yeah.

[00:47:29]>> Which I'm not like the biggest fan of it. That one takes a insanely weird turn. And I was turned off by the fact cuz I was really into George Clooney's character and then it just is like, ah, [ __ ] it. Or just vampires.

[00:47:42]>> Yeah, new movie. New movie.

[00:47:44]>> Yeah, completely new movie. And what's her name? S >> Sahek.

[00:47:48]>> Sahek.

[00:47:49]>> This is the wildest thing.

[00:47:51]>> Yeah, he just ever do. writes.

[00:47:53]>> Yeah. Tarantino wrote part of the movie with Robert Rodriguez and there's a scene where the character Quinn Tarantino wrote that he then plays get Salah to seductively dance in front of him and then stick her foot in his mouth.

[00:48:07]>> Yep.

[00:48:08]>> And he wrote that.

[00:48:09]>> Yeah. And he played it.

[00:48:10]>> I don't know how much he cast.

[00:48:13]>> She looked good.

[00:48:14]>> She did look good. Which makes it even worse. It was one of those where like I typically when it comes to scenes like that I'm like all right does it progress the story anything or does it do anything for the plot that we're seeing but at that point we've thrown any type of plot out >> I mean in that movie >> she ends up becoming a vampire >> she is a vampire but in that movie makes sense because she's like vampire seductive you know >> sure >> so like you got to include that I would say in a vampire movie like it actually tracks it's not just kind of out of nowhere it's like kind of a theme for vampire movies Sure.

[00:48:46]>> Hot vampire men >> with foot fetishes. You're right. You're right.

[00:48:49]>> By my neck, please.

[00:48:51]>> Yeah. He's like, "I will, but let me get you. Let me get them toes."

[00:48:55]>> Yeah.

[00:48:55]>> Let me get them toes.

[00:48:57]Um, so yeah, but hey, I mean, when you make good stuff, they let that [ __ ] slide.

[00:49:03]>> Oh, I forgot to say this, too. One other like meta thing that Tarantino does is the director of Operation Dynamite. Margareti.

[00:49:12]>> Antonio Margariti is the director which is the alias in a glorious bastards for Donowitz.

[00:49:18]>> He keeps it in the universe. He keeps it fun.

[00:49:20]>> Keeps it fun.

[00:49:20]>> He keeps it fun. He Yeah. I love that he, you know, he sure I think he'd been writing this movie. I I watched this interview like this is like a 4-minute thing of him just kind of explaining how uh this film came into fruition and it started out as a novel and then it like kind of went between a novel and a play like just back and forth back and forth >> but it took him like eight years to like finish it. He said like in between movies he would just go back and just write and work on this to get him back in the swing of like writing things. M >> um but it is funny like he he got Brad Pitt and Leonardo DiCaprio to be the stars in it which hey it was like an attractive thing for everybody. I was like dude two of like the guys that like the most Hollywood guys guy the coolest guys in the business sharing the screen.

[00:50:13]>> The line that that Cliff Boot tells Rick Dalton when he's like you're [ __ ] Rick Dalton. Don't you forget that. That was improv by Brad Pitt because in the 90s when he was a building actor somebody told him that. Yeah.

[00:50:24]>> Before like a scene, he's like, "You're you're [ __ ] Brad Pitt. Don't you forget that." So, like he then improvded it for this movie.

[00:50:30]>> Yeah. Which I because I don't think QT does a lot of improv. I think it's typically, "Nope, you read exactly how it's written cuz Quinn Tarantino literally has the movie in his head, >> right?

[00:50:43]>> And he's just he sees it." Yeah. And he's like, "Put it in. I literally know how I want it delivered. Everything."

[00:50:49]So, so not a lot of improv gets in there.

[00:50:51]>> Yeah. So, >> but it's nice. There's more in this movie than probably any of his other movies. But the >> the trailer scene when Rick Dalton's freaking out at himself, pissed off at his bad delivery, >> the flamethrower deal, improv, and then that Brad Pit line.

[00:51:05]>> Yeah.

[00:51:05]>> That's way more than Tarantino ever usually allows, >> right? Yeah. Like we even movies that we've watched by QT, I will say on the podcast like I refuse to believe that this was in the script and then we will look up the script.

[00:51:19]>> It's verbatim.

[00:51:20]>> That's crazy.

[00:51:21]>> Yeah.

[00:51:21]>> But uh Yeah. So, it's pretty cool to see that. But I was saying just like, you know, having Brad and Leo like in the same movie. Um, have you seen the photo shoot that they that they did where it's like Brad and Leo and they look cool as [ __ ] >> Yes, we pulled it up before.

[00:51:37]>> But we have. Yeah. They got the they got the top off and then Quinton Tarantino was like, "God, aren't we Aren't we cool?"

[00:51:43]>> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. You have the two.

[00:51:45]Yeah. Brad Pitt and DiCaprio.

[00:51:47]>> The most handsome dudes.

[00:51:48]>> Handsome as hell. And then Tarantino's in there like Subway. try like he's trying his best to be Yeah. He's done it, you know. He He wrote it, made it. He's like, >> "I am I am one of the cool boys. This is this is the award I get."

[00:52:03]>> Yep.

[00:52:04]>> Um Yeah. That's so funny to me.

[00:52:07]>> I've even heard somebody describe Cliff and Rick as like two sides of Tarantino.

[00:52:15]like Tarantino feeling like he has to constantly fight for relevance, you know, and he's always coming out with hot takes to stay in the loop and like the insecure part of him a little bit.

[00:52:25]And then Rick uh Cliff is his >> just >> I'm a badass.

[00:52:29]>> Just I'm just coasting through it and I will make do with what I get.

[00:52:32]>> Yeah. So, it's like the two sides of Tarantino's like mind like the ego with Rick and like I guess what he believes is actual skill in Cliff >> where I'm the [ __ ] man. I look cool as [ __ ] I do work on my roof with my shirt off >> and you know Margot Robbie's looking.

[00:52:50]>> Yeah, I can see him.

[00:52:52]>> I Yeah, I can get away with smoking cigarettes all day, drinking beer and eating mac and cheese and still having a six-pack >> when my shirt comes off.

[00:52:59]>> And I get to suck toes whenever I want.

[00:53:01]>> And yeah, of course, of course. Um >> I mean, he even has Cliff Boo look at Margaret Qualie's feet when she puts them up on the dash.

[00:53:08]>> Right.

[00:53:08]>> Oh, nice. So, >> what would I do?

[00:53:13][laughter] Yeah.

[00:53:15]>> You know what's interesting is like I feel like since this movie came out, Brad Pitt, like he's acting, but like since this movie came out, Brad Pitt has just been Cliff Boot.

[00:53:26]>> I think it No, I think it actually stems from Out of Rain.

[00:53:30]The voice from Out of Rain kind of stuck with him for the rest of his career.

[00:53:35]>> The voice?

[00:53:35]>> Yeah, like the way he talks.

[00:53:36]>> No, I just mean like the way that Brad carries himself. But yeah, >> dude. I think he is just completely chilled out now. He is just doing his thing.

[00:53:45]>> F1, you know, he washed up race car driver.

[00:53:48]>> Yeah. But I'm thinking, what else has he done? Oh, he he did a bullet train. He's just kind of whimsical, very very carefree. But I there I say this because I had already been thinking it, but I looked it up. I was like Brad Pitt interview about Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. And he did mention he was like just kind of caught me at a point in my life where I was very free and just you know kind of unfased by anything. He said like you know you look for the best in he was talking about Cliff but he was like this is where I am now. He was like I look for the best in people but I'm not surprised when I don't get the best.

[00:54:27]>> And it's very much like Cliff Booth like he just he's just kind of along for the ride. He's picking up hitchhikers and all that, but then tire gets stabbed.

[00:54:39]>> Mhm.

[00:54:39]>> And he grabs a dude, beats the [ __ ] out of him, makes him fix the tire. But he's like not angry, right?

[00:54:45]>> Just like this is how I'm going to get my job done.

[00:54:47]>> Yep.

[00:54:48]>> Without being taken advantage of.

[00:54:49]>> This is how this is going to go.

[00:54:51]>> Yeah.

[00:54:51]>> This is what you've caused.

[00:54:52]>> But just I've seen interviews with Brad Pitt where I'm just like this dude like it makes sense that he's just like the chillest guy ever. like the whole world just loves him, you know, just like he made he made it in Hollywood.

[00:55:06]>> People love having him in movies, pretty much have any woman he wants. It's like just known.

[00:55:12]>> So like yeah, it makes sense that he's just like the chillest dude just [ __ ] pit.

[00:55:16]>> But since this movie came out, I'm like, yeah, like Brad has just pretty much not stopped being Cliff.

[00:55:22]>> No. And the car that the car that Cliff drives, the Cadillac, is actually Michael Madson's.

[00:55:27]>> Nice.

[00:55:29]Nice >> donated to the cause.

[00:55:32]>> I think I saw that it's also in Reservoir Dogs.

[00:55:38]>> Really?

[00:55:39]>> I believe so.

[00:55:40]>> It's like Yeah, it's the same exact car.

[00:55:42]Are you talking about Cliff driving Rick Dalton's car?

[00:55:45]>> Yeah.

[00:55:45]>> Yeah. I think I saw that that was in uh Reservoir Dogs as well.

[00:55:50]>> So, see like QT is just always like throwing that [ __ ] in. Yeah. Which means that QT either used Michael Madson's car for Reservoir Dogs or QT gave that car to Michael Madson after Reservoir Dogs.

[00:56:02]>> Yeah. Yeah, >> that's funny.

[00:56:04]>> But with the So the ending, it's kind of It's kind of funny on this watch. I kind of thought about, you know, at the end is it's like fairy tale music. The camera rises up. It's called Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. So like the ending is very much of a fairy tale type ending.

[00:56:18]>> Mhm. to where it's it might be kind of reminding actors or aspiring people or people outside of Hollywood that like this is the fairy tale version of Hollywood because Rick Dalton gets away he like you know he's able to save his career with the chance that doesn't happen with every actor a lot of actors don't work you know we only know like there's >> the acting world of like Hollywood ain't that big in >> the grand scheme of how many people are trying >> right >> and so it doesn't >> and I especially back then >> Mhm. God. I mean, there's so many more shows and movies being made now, but back then, >> right?

[00:56:51]>> Like, dude, you have seven channels that you can flip on. Yeah.

[00:56:54]>> And then, like, if you want to go see a new movie, you have to go to the theater.

[00:56:57]>> So, you're reminded of that at the end.

[00:56:58]>> There's just a select few.

[00:56:59]>> And then Sharon Tate being alive, you're like, that's this is just a fairy tale.

[00:57:03]>> So, it just kind of reminds you like, >> this isn't real.

[00:57:06]>> This isn't really how it happened.

[00:57:08]>> Yeah. This is just QT.

[00:57:11]Yeah. I think kind of putting like bringing it to life of what everybody thinks of when they >> mean it's what he grew up it's what it's the era he grew up in.

[00:57:20]>> It's nostalgia.

[00:57:21]>> It's it's his nostalgic look on that old school golden age of Hollywood.

[00:57:25]>> Yeah.

[00:57:26]>> And he [ __ ] nails it. So you love it, too.

[00:57:28]>> Yep.

[00:57:29]>> Get to hang out in this world that you're like, damn, this is dope.

[00:57:32]>> The colors, the way they shoot it, it's all just magnificent.

[00:57:35]>> That's so good. It's so good. You know what I want to do? I there's a book he did make it into a book. It started out as a novel and it did end up being a novel.

[00:57:44]>> Yep.

[00:57:44]>> And I want I want to read it cuz I think there's more about Cliff like his background.

[00:57:52]>> I mean there's so much more after this movie that they're making. The Adventures of Cliff Booth.

[00:57:57]>> I know.

[00:57:58]>> David Fincher.

[00:57:59]>> I know. That's great. Yeah. So written by Quentyn Tarantino but directed by David Fincher. So we're getting the best of both Brad Pitt worlds. Yes. because Brad Pitt has made money with David Fincher.

[00:58:10]>> So, it's going to be pretty cool.

[00:58:11]Probably >> going be interesting seeing Fincher's take on a Tarantino script.

[00:58:16]>> Well, I think not only that, but like Finchure >> like how much of Tarantino style is he going to incorporate in like how this movie looks, >> right? But I'm just thinking like even based on the trailer like you can already tell like the coloring is going to be just much more different. This is in Quinton's like we get vibrant colors.

[00:58:32]It's yellow golden age. Right.

[00:58:34]>> Right. You know, I feel like in the trailer it was already like more bleak how Fincher Yeah. how Fincher does it.

[00:58:42]>> So, you know, I'm curious to see what that story is going to look like. I'm curious to see if Leo has any type of in that, you know, >> I doubt it. Well, I don't know because in this film after he gets done killing those [ __ ] hippies, he goes up to Sharon Tate's house and she's married to like the hottest director in the game right now.

[00:59:05]>> Yep.

[00:59:06]>> And he's like, you know, I'm just one more I'm one conversation away from being in, you know, the biggest movie in the in the country in the world. And so it ends with him going and having a conversation after he's done a badass thing. So, you know, he's going to be kind of the man. They're going to see him in that light.

[00:59:23]>> The hot list.

[00:59:24]>> Yeah. And Cliff is his stunt double. So, I don't know. Like, how are you going to make a whole movie about Cliff years after this incident and not bring up Rick Dalton? And if you do bring up Rick Dalton, how do you not show him >> like on a movie screen?

[00:59:45]>> Or or Yeah. Or it could just be like it could be as simple as like n Rick ended up making money for uh like a car commercial.

[00:59:53]>> Yeah.

[00:59:53]>> You know, and that's all he does. And you don't need stunt doubles to to do a car commercial.

[00:59:59]>> When does that movie come out?

[01:00:00]>> It's this year. Um I don't know. I don't know what month.

[01:00:05]>> 2026 film. It'll come out >> hopefully in the summer. Be cool.

[01:00:12]uh with Netflix. It will debut in IMAX theaters for two weeks on November 25th and global streaming premiere on December 23rd.

[01:00:23]>> Best believe I'm going to see that movie in theaters.

[01:00:26]>> I'll try.

[01:00:28]>> I will try. You'll be able to see that movie in theaters.

[01:00:30]>> Yeah, Sarah will be old enough.

[01:00:31]>> It'll be old enough babysitter.

[01:00:32]>> Yeah, we can get a babysitter cuz I know Mercedes is going to want to see that, too.

[01:00:35]>> Yep. Come over. Come watch the baby. Me and Mercedes are going to go watch Cliff Cliff. [laughter] >> Yeah, Cliff's going to have a mustache in this one, so that's cool, you know.

[01:00:45]But >> mustache, baby.

[01:00:47]>> Um, yeah, I'm hyped for that one. But >> and hyper Leo Heat too. What? How insane is that?

[01:00:52]>> Is Leonardo DiCaprio and Heat Too, >> bro. Yes.

[01:00:55]>> What? Who is it? Christian Bale, right?

[01:00:58]It's Leo and Christian Bale.

[01:01:00]>> Yep. And then um >> Austin Butler.

[01:01:02]>> Yeah, Austin Butler. Adam Driver.

[01:01:05]>> Bradley Cooper's in it, bro. Leo, Christian Bale, Bradley Cooper, Austin Butler, Adam Driver, and Heat 2.

[01:01:13]>> What is Heat 2 going to be about?

[01:01:15]>> Uh, 1988 Chicago. Macaulay and his gang carry out robberies on the west coast in the Mexican US border. Detective Hannah kills Macaulay.

[01:01:25]Bro, this is Oh. kills McCauley in a confrontation at LAX. Years later in LA, Hannah hunts down Chris Sherillis, the group's last revor in the future. I think >> is it canon to He won.

[01:01:40]>> Yeah.

[01:01:41]>> Okay.

[01:01:42]>> Pacino's in it apparently.

[01:01:44]>> Whoa.

[01:01:46]>> Old Pacino running down.

[01:01:48]>> Still still doing blow.

[01:01:50]>> Yeah, I think Adam Driver plays I don't know honestly.

[01:01:56]>> It's Michael Man though, right? He's still, you know, Yeah.

[01:02:00]>> All right, bro. I mean, yes, I'm excited, but like Cliff Booth, I'll look for the best in things, but I won't be surprised when they disappoint me.

[01:02:12]>> Oh, Christian Bale might be playing Vincent Hannah >> or or the villain.

[01:02:17]>> Okay.

[01:02:18]>> Adam Driver is going to be Neil McCaulay.

[01:02:21]>> When is it supposed to come out?

[01:02:23]>> I don't know. Just there's very little info.

[01:02:27]Just the cast.

[01:02:29]>> Just the cast. But you know, we're taking this [ __ ] serious. This ain't going to be no [ __ ] remake. We got DiCaprio in this hoe. You don't just pick [ __ ] movies either.

[01:02:40]>> Okay. I mean, yeah, you're right. And Leo I trust.

[01:02:43]>> And Leo I trust.

[01:02:44]>> I feel like honestly Christian Bale too, like he most the movies I watch that he has done, I'm like that was a good role.

[01:02:52]He's good in that.

[01:02:52]>> Not the Thor movie.

[01:02:55]>> Sometimes. Just got to go make some money.

[01:02:56]>> Sometimes you got to get a fat Disney check.

[01:02:58]>> Yeah. Sometimes. Yeah. You Hey, who doesn't want to play both side of the superhero world? It's like, wow, I got to be in Marvel and DC. And also, I think Christian Bale did good in that Marvel movie. Like, people were impressed by his performance.

[01:03:14]>> Yeah. I'm just saying the movie's ass.

[01:03:16]>> Does the movie suck?

[01:03:17]>> It's got to It's got to be ass.

[01:03:20]>> Why?

[01:03:20]>> I think it was like Thor 3.

[01:03:23]>> Yeah, you know, maybe. I mean, I I don't really watch them anymore. You know what Marvel movies I watch now? I watched like Guardians of the Galaxy. Love those movies.

[01:03:31]>> Old school. I watch old school Iron Man not that long ago.

[01:03:34]>> That's what I'm saying. But like I'm done watching I say that I'm totally going to watch that Doomsday movie.

[01:03:39]>> [ __ ] yeah. You got to see what happens.

[01:03:41]>> Got to see what happens.

[01:03:42]>> I'm not watching all the f all the movies surrounding it.

[01:03:45]>> Yeah. Like Yeah.

[01:03:46]>> I just watch a YouTube video. What do I need to know?

[01:03:49]>> Right.

[01:03:49]>> And then pop in.

[01:03:50]>> Right. Oh yeah. Once upon a time in Hollywood. Should we get back to that movie?

[01:03:54]>> Probably a good idea.

[01:03:56]>> Should we rate it?

[01:03:58]>> Yeah, let's do it.

[01:03:59]>> Yeah.

[01:04:00]>> All right. What do you have for Once Upon a Time in Hollywood?

[01:04:06]>> As you can imagine, it's going to be up there.

[01:04:08]>> Yep.

[01:04:08]>> I mean, we're we're QT guys over here.

[01:04:10]Um, his films are they're just they're fun. This is one of those, like I said, it disappointed me at the beginning cuz I was a kid that didn't know no better.

[01:04:19]This [snorts] one is aged beautifully. I watched it in there's a super nice theater. It's in Texas. I don't know if it's anywhere else. They're called IPIC theaters. There's actually one in the domain.

[01:04:29]>> Okay.

[01:04:30]>> And it's like a [ __ ] luxury movie theater. It was like the first ever movie theater that you pressed a button to have [ __ ] delivered to you.

[01:04:37]>> Okay.

[01:04:38]>> That was like unheard of when I went as a kid when I watched this movie in that theater.

[01:04:42]>> And you recline your seat back.

[01:04:43]>> Recline your seat back. You're in a pod with just one other person. Like you have a date. You're like a little private pod sort of. Oh, >> you get a blanket and a pillow.

[01:04:51]>> Whoa.

[01:04:51]>> The popcorn is the best movie popcorn I've ever had in my life. I pic should sponsor us for this.

[01:04:56]>> It's called I pick.

[01:04:57]>> I pick.

[01:04:58]>> Are we Are we sponsored by them?

[01:04:59]>> No, we need to be. There were the tickets are like a little bit more expensive. Like it might be like $35 for a movie ticket, but you get free. The popcorn's free.

[01:05:08]>> Oh, >> you just >> Whoa. Hey, that right there.

[01:05:11]>> Yeah, it's [ __ ] sick.

[01:05:13]>> I pick >> I pick. It's not the cool part was like you got [ __ ] delivered to you. But that was like that's a new thing nowadays that I think IC >> started or at least was like the super early adopter of press a button and we'll come bring whatever the [ __ ] you want.

[01:05:27]>> And you're telling me they didn't reach out to us to try and get a deal cuz right now this is just free press.

[01:05:32]>> It's badass theater.

[01:05:34]>> I pick.

[01:05:34]>> All right. What you got?

[01:05:35]>> We'll we'll come find you. We'll make it happen. Um for acting 10 out of 10.

[01:05:42]>> Yep.

[01:05:42]>> Yeah. Uh, writing 10 out of 10.

[01:05:45]>> Yep.

[01:05:45]>> Editing nine out of 10. Cinematography nine out of 10.

[01:05:48]>> How dare you?

[01:05:49]>> Uh, enjoyability 10 out of 10. It's a 9.6 out of 10.

[01:05:53]>> You just did that to lower your score.

[01:05:54]>> It's a great film.

[01:05:55]>> You just want to give it 10 out of 10.

[01:05:56]>> It's a great film.

[01:05:58]>> I have acting 10 out of 10. Writing nine out of 10 only because it's not his best script ever. You know, Glorious Bastards, Jango Unchained. I put those before this movie.

[01:06:08]>> Sure.

[01:06:08]>> So, I'm just giving it a nine to lower my score.

[01:06:12]Editing 10 out of 10. Cinematography 10 out of 10. Enjoyability 10 out of 10 for a total score of 9.8.

[01:06:20]>> I don't know why you jumped down my throat. You didn't have to do that unless you were a 10 out of 10.

[01:06:25]>> Two nines for editing and cinematography. [laughter] >> Didn't even the two categories you have the least confidence.

[01:06:32]>> Didn't even go into it.

[01:06:34]>> Yeah.

[01:06:34]>> Didn't even go into it. that.

[01:06:36]>> Plus, I love just him like just with the Hollywood in the 70s. Quinton Tarantino did a damn good job. So, it actually looked fantastic.

[01:06:45]>> Vibe movie.

[01:06:47]>> Pure vibe movie. Um, >> it's just it's insane to like have a hangout movie be that good.

[01:06:52]>> Yeah. Does Once Upon a Time in Hollywood make it into your top five Tarantino films?

[01:07:01]>> Nine.

[01:07:01]>> Nine.

[01:07:02]>> Nine.

[01:07:03]>> Yes.

[01:07:03]>> You think there's top five for you?

[01:07:04]Yeah, I put it above Hate.

[01:07:07]>> What would What would you say your top five Tarantino films are?

[01:07:11]>> Django and Chain and Glorious Bastards.

[01:07:16]Pulp Fiction, Once Upon a Time. I might swap those low key. I'm going to put Once Upon a Time third. Piction four.

[01:07:24]>> Wow. Number five would be Hateful Eight.

[01:07:40]Hateful 8 over Resvoir Dogs or >> I like Resort Dogs, but it's not one of my favorites of his to be honest.

[01:07:46]>> Really?

[01:07:47]>> Like I like it. It's good.

[01:07:48]>> I love the feel of Reservoir Dogs.

[01:07:50]>> Yeah. Like I don't I don't really throw that one on too much.

[01:07:52]>> Damn. Damn. I got Eng Glorious Bastards is number one.

[01:07:57]>> Yeah.

[01:07:58]>> Pulp Fiction number two. Jango number three.

[01:08:05]>> Honestly, I love Jackie Brown, but I don't think she's in the top five.

[01:08:10]But at the same time, Robert Dairo really good in that. They're all really good in that film. No, no, no.

[01:08:19]Damn.

[01:08:20]>> Death Proof.

[01:08:21]>> No, it's not in there. I need to rewatch Death Proof to just totally rewatch it just to understand.

[01:08:29]But I think I'll have to go Reservoir Dogs.

[01:08:38]>> It might be It might be Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Yeah.

[01:08:42]>> No Kill Bill in there.

[01:08:47]>> No, no, no. I love all of those movies.

[01:08:51]But yeah, I think I'll put Once Upon a Time over Kill Bill.

[01:08:55]>> Yeah, >> because I'm just I mean, we're just straight up chilling.

[01:09:00]>> Chilling with some badass characters.

[01:09:02]>> Yeah, like it's just the fun ride. So, yeah. I guess I I did not think I was going to have it in my top five until just now. I surprise myself sometimes.

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[01:09:46]>> [music] [music] >> I've been working like a [music] dog [singing] trying to find my next meal.

[01:09:58]Seems all I do is drive. And when [music] the boss man [singing] sends my next check in the mail, I'll have enough for [music] closing time.