Sergeant Ryder Surrounded Him With Six Armed Officers — GIS Survey Proved Every Single One Wrong!

[00:00:02]All right. Where um But you don't have insurance directly on the car right now that you know.

[00:00:07]>> Uh there is insurance on the car. Not not through me, but it's under Midwest Auto Connection and they do have insurance on the car. Definitely.

[00:00:14]>> All right.

[00:00:16]>> If you uh like I have >> I have the portfolio of my I plead the fifth.

[00:00:21]>> What's that?

[00:00:22]>> I plead the fifth.

[00:00:23]>> Are you Are you afraid to plead the what?

[00:00:26]>> No, I just I just plead the fifth.

[00:00:28]>> Okay. All right, I understand you're recording. That's fine. I'm just asking why who you are.

[00:00:34]>> Um, I plead >> by who you are.

[00:00:37]>> Most people who don't want to tell us their name sometimes have a warrant. So, >> no, I just I just I'm a firm believer in the constitution and I like to >> exercise my rightution with us right now is there's not a valid driver in this vehicle. There's no insurance in this vehicle. So, right now >> I'm not I'm not What crime do you suspect me of committing?

[00:00:57]>> Nothing.

[00:00:58]>> Okay. I plead the fifth. I do not want you to look up your insurance stuff.

[00:01:02]>> I do not want you talking to it here.

[00:01:05]Okay.

[00:01:06]>> So, I'm trying to >> work with you here and stuff. So, I'm just uh see if you can pull up the insurance stuff cuz I don't want to have to tow your car. Okay. Um but your buddy's already talking to me about constitutional rights, so he knows how that works and such. So, I'll be right back with you. You guys just sit tight.

[00:01:23]Okay.

[00:01:23]>> No problem.

[00:01:25]The officer's insistence on demanding ID from a passenger with no criminal suspicion exposes a routine overreach of authority. Legally, ID refusal in such situations is protected and the passenger's calm reliance on the Fifth Amendment underscores the importance of knowing your rights. If you believe this female officer acted wrongly, leave a five in the comments.

[00:01:48]>> You're telling me that I owe you something.

[00:01:50]>> You're causing people to be nervous.

[00:01:51]Therefore, I'm just going to wait for the authorities to get here with this >> right there.

[00:01:55]>> Perfect.

[00:01:56]>> Perfect.

[00:01:56]>> This is public property. What's your name and badge number?

[00:02:00]>> Sergeant Ryder.

[00:02:01]>> Okay. Badge number, please.

[00:02:03]>> This video opens mid-tra stop and the passenger's response to an ID demand is delivered with the calm of someone who has prepared for exactly this moment. I plead the fifth.

[00:02:15]Twice. The officer asks again, "I plead the fifth." not evasion. Constitutional invocation. The Fifth Amendment's protection against self-inccrimination applies beyond criminal proceedings and a passenger in a vehicle who has committed no offense has every legal basis to decline answering questions about their identity when no crime has been established. The officer's response reveals the underlying motivation. Most people who don't want to tell us their names sometimes have a warrant. That is not a legal standard. That is an assumption used to manufacture reasonable suspicion from a constitutionally protected refusal. The passenger names the correct legal threshold immediately. What crime do you suspect me of committing? The officer's answer. Nothing. Nothing. No crime. No reasonable suspicion. No legal basis for the ID demand. Just a passenger who said, "I plead the fifth twice." And an officer who heard it and kept asking anyway. Three encounters. across this video. Different states, different officers, different circumstances, the same constitutional protections, and every single attempt to override them through assumption, through pressure, through authority, fails the moment the specific legal standard is demanded.

[00:03:35]>> I have to give you my name or bad number, not both.

[00:03:37]>> You have to give both.

[00:03:38]>> No, you don't.

[00:03:38]>> It's part of your policy, isn't it?

[00:03:40]>> It's not, sir. You might want to read oursel.

[00:03:43]>> What is it?

[00:03:44]>> Officer sync.

[00:03:45]>> Sync.

[00:03:46]>> Yeah. S. So what are you doing?

[00:03:48]>> We're doing a story on the base.

[00:03:50]>> What do you work for?

[00:03:52]>> I don't have to divulge that.

[00:03:54]>> I'm not going to tip.

[00:03:54]>> Media members have credentials.

[00:03:56]>> Yes, we do.

[00:03:57]>> And good journalist usually produce those.

[00:04:00]>> Good journalist.

[00:04:03]>> Usually good journalist has their anonymity, right?

[00:04:06]>> Anominity was that >> being anonymous? Are you that dumb?

[00:04:10]>> I didn't understand.

[00:04:11]>> Are you really that dumb?

[00:04:12]>> I didn't know what an ominity was. I'm sorry. I don't know. That's a new word for me. Am I being detained?

[00:04:18]>> Uh problem.

[00:04:20]>> That is a No, it's up to you. They can't detain me. They cannot detain me.

[00:04:25]Detain.

[00:04:25]>> Okay, then I'm free to go.

[00:04:27]>> Then I'm free to go. Okay. Goodbye.

[00:04:29]>> I'm going to continue to do what I'm doing.

[00:04:31]>> Well, now hearing.

[00:04:33]>> Sure, I am.

[00:04:34]>> Where's your supervisor? Are you the supervisor? Well, then you better get somebody higher because I've already dealt with IMPD on recording in public.

[00:04:42]>> Trying to cause problems here. That's basically what problem is this?

[00:04:45]>> You're trying to get a You're trying to elicit a response from us. So you and go viral.

[00:04:50]>> Everything was just fine. I already talked to the state crew and he didn't have a problem.

[00:04:54]>> What was his name?

[00:04:55]>> I don't know. It's on my record.

[00:04:58]>> Show us.

[00:04:58]>> You guys saw him.

[00:04:59]>> Yeah. You get everybody's name and badge number. So let's see what it is.

[00:05:02]>> You're public servants.

[00:05:04]>> Your name.

[00:05:05]>> Are you really that dumb?

[00:05:07]>> I didn't.

[00:05:08]>> Are you really that dumb?

[00:05:09]>> You're not the one that said anominity.

[00:05:11]>> Okay. So I misspoke. Oh no, that's like a typo. Are you the Are you the grammar police?

[00:05:17]>> You don't even know our >> Are you the grammar police?

[00:05:18]>> You don't know our policy.

[00:05:19]>> Are you law enforcement?

[00:05:20]>> I'm law enforcement. But you >> then go enforce some laws. So you obviously aren't running as much as Look at all these cars for a guy with a camera.

[00:05:28]>> Yeah, because you're right outside of a military base.

[00:05:30]>> I'm on public easement. You There's no sidewalk here.

[00:05:33]>> You are producing a safety concern for the soldiers of this base by standing here.

[00:05:38]>> I'm I'm not on the base. You have a right to record and that but not every place.

[00:05:43]>> I can record whatever my eyes can see.

[00:05:45]Are you that dumb? Are you IA certified?

[00:05:49]>> It's where you're standing.

[00:05:49]>> Are you certified? Have you been updated on public photography?

[00:05:54]>> What's the difference if I'm over there?

[00:05:55]If I'm over here, >> well, if you're filming right here, you see like >> it is not. You're probably go pull up the GIS survey.

[00:06:03]>> Car to see.

[00:06:04]>> Go pull up the GIS survey cuz you're looking dumb. We're going to get a lawyer >> who's smarter than all of us probably.

[00:06:10]>> I know the law. I'm on public easement.

[00:06:12]You cannot trespass my eyes and you cannot trespass me from public easement.

[00:06:16]>> Sec. Thirdly, >> problem. That's all you're doing.

[00:06:20]>> I'm doing a story on the base.

[00:06:21]>> I'm curious to hear your story.

[00:06:22]>> I'm not going to tip my hat on what my story is.

[00:06:25]>> My story may be you all. Now, >> I can tell you channel 8, 13, 59 are out here. They're going to tell us that they work for them.

[00:06:31]>> Okay. I'm independent.

[00:06:33]Well, what other works have you done?

[00:06:35]What are some of your other pieces that you put out?

[00:06:39]>> Four or five others.

[00:06:40]>> Four names. What were they about? Just curious about your work.

[00:06:44]>> You guys are I'm I'm going to disengage.

[00:06:47]Am I free to go still?

[00:06:48]>> Yeah, please leave.

[00:06:49]>> I'm not leaving. I'm going to continue.

[00:06:51]If I'm free to go, I'm free to stay.

[00:06:53]>> No, that doesn't make any sense.

[00:06:55]>> Well, you're looking dumb. So, I need somebody out here that's higher than you. Your supervisor. Why not? I've requested >> working right now.

[00:07:02]>> Okay. Well, then you're making IMPD look really dumb.

[00:07:05]>> We're not going to, >> sir. You can record across the street.

[00:07:09]>> I can record it from right here.

[00:07:10]>> Actually, our our lawyer says no.

[00:07:12]>> Your lawyer's wrong.

[00:07:12]>> We can ask them to move the military if he refuses to leave.

[00:07:17]>> No, sir. I'm not to be here right now.

[00:07:19]You You have 5 seconds to explain.

[00:07:22]>> You have 5 seconds. I have to get my bike first.

[00:07:25]>> Can I You're trespassing right now.

[00:07:27]Okay.

[00:07:27]>> Well, I'm in the street then.

[00:07:29]>> This is not their property. Well, I'm going to I'm going to get the exact letter of the law here. Then you do you go do that >> actually right now.

[00:07:36]>> Goodbye.

[00:07:43]>> Is your PIO here now?

[00:07:46]I'm not here now. Okay.

[00:07:49]You're going to make a mistake if you put me under cuffs.

[00:07:53]See, that's how you should be.

[00:07:55]>> What did everybody do when they were young? Hey, Mom. For the camera, right?

[00:08:00]So that's like right there. They don't >> Why do I have to go across this right?

[00:08:07]>> I mean, does it matter?

[00:08:08]>> You guys are trying to You're trying to press trespass me off of public property. Did they put those telephone poles up? Did they put the speed limit signs up?

[00:08:17]>> I don't know. But if they're going to say that it's cool if you film, >> you guys need to >> You guys are law enforcement. Before you start talking, before you start talking, you listen to me.

[00:08:29]Put yours hang out right there.

[00:08:32]>> I can get the same thing from over there as I can from right here. What's the difference?

[00:08:35]>> That's all I'm saying. Might as well hang out over there.

[00:08:37]>> So, what's the difference? This is freedom.

[00:08:39]>> Difference is that right there. You're causing problems over there.

[00:08:42]>> I don't care if I'm causing them problems.

[00:08:45]>> It is my saw over there.

[00:08:47]>> You cannot make shots on his sergeant.

[00:08:50]He's probably getting told right now that I'm in public.

[00:08:52]>> Right now just gave you 5 seconds to get >> I'm off property.

[00:08:57]>> If he says that this is their property, which is grass, they cannot They do not own the street.

[00:09:02]>> Okay. So, if you you're saying that you're in the street, right?

[00:09:04]>> I'm on the curb. There has to be a walk.

[00:09:07]There has to Okay. There has to be an ement. There is no sidewalk. I have to be able to ride my bike down through here safely or walk. They cannot trespass me 33 ft from the center line.

[00:09:20]Has to be and even further because there's telephone poles there. They didn't put the telephone poles there.

[00:09:26]>> All right.

[00:09:27]>> So, here he's coming over here.

[00:09:29]>> Okay. This is where this video shifts from a quiet constitutional refusal to its most confrontational sequence because what begins is a single officer asking questions outside a military base becomes six armed men surrounding one citizen with a camera on a public easement. The auditor is filming from what he correctly identifies as public property. a curb area adjacent to a military installation that contains telephone poles, utility infrastructure, and a right of way that was never deed to the base. Sergeant Ryder, badge visible, arrives first. The auditor asks him to confirm his policy compliance by providing name and badge number together. Ryder refuses. The auditor names the word anonymity and writer responds, "Are you that dumb?" The auditor's counter is the line that defines this entire segment. I didn't know what anonymity was. Are you really that dumb? Are you IA certified? Have you been updated on public photography?

[00:10:28]Not personal attack. Legal accountability delivered with the intensity of someone who has dealt with exactly this kind of overreach before.

[00:10:36]Then more officers arrive. Then more.

[00:10:39]The auditor counts them out loud. Look at all these cars for a guy with a camera. The officers invoke military security concerns. The auditor invokes the GIS survey. Go pull up the GIS survey before you say I'm on their property cuz you're looking dumb. Public telephone polls, speed limit signs, utility easement, all the physical markers that prove where the basis property ends and the public right of way begins.

[00:11:07]>> Are we going to cl Are we going to clarify?

[00:11:09]>> Are we going to clarify?

[00:11:10]>> Here's your options. Your options.

[00:11:12]>> Are we going to clarify?

[00:11:13]>> Here's your options. Here's your options.

[00:11:15]>> Are we going to clarify?

[00:11:16]>> Here's your options. Your options.

[00:11:17]>> Are we going to clarify?

[00:11:18]>> Here's your options. You can stand over there.

[00:11:21]>> You're going to have a lawsuit if you put me if you do anything >> because here you're impeding traffic.

[00:11:26]>> Okay. Here is their property.

[00:11:28]>> You're you're you are in a you are in a >> No, sir. There has to be an easement for I can walk down through here or ride my >> bike because there's no sidewalk.

[00:11:37]There's no 6T ement. You see a sidewalk, >> but they do not.

[00:11:40]>> You see a sidewalk. They own >> There has to be an easement. There is a utility.

[00:11:44]>> Take that up to the DOT or the mayor's office. There is no easement. There is no sidewalk. The purpose is >> Are you Are you zoning?

[00:11:52]>> I'm telling you what the law is.

[00:11:53]>> Okay.

[00:11:54]>> I'm telling you what the law is.

[00:11:55]>> Are you zoning?

[00:11:57]>> I'm telling you what the law is.

[00:11:59]>> Okay. Why don't you go do me a favor?

[00:12:01]>> Here's your options.

[00:12:02]>> Do me a favor.

[00:12:02]>> You can you can get out of the street.

[00:12:04]>> I'm I'm on the curb then. It's not their property.

[00:12:07]>> You go over there or you go.

[00:12:08]>> Okay. Explain to me what the difference is of me over there than over here >> because this is their property. That's not their property.

[00:12:14]>> It is not their property.

[00:12:15]>> It is their >> Please do me a favor. Somebody pull up their the GIS survey.

[00:12:19]>> Talk to a major who is a jack.

[00:12:21]>> It doesn't matter. Sir, please pull up the GIS survey before >> you don't get out of the street and you don't leave. If you don't go over there or leave, you're going to get locked up.

[00:12:30]>> For what crime?

[00:12:31]>> For impeding what?

[00:12:34]>> Because cars can turn right here and you're in.

[00:12:35]>> They can, but they can clearly see me.

[00:12:39]>> Sir, I'm trying to try to be stand out there. They can see you, but you're still violating the law.

[00:12:44]>> Okay.

[00:12:44]>> You're being a pain in the butt.

[00:12:46]>> No, I'm trying to I'm trying to >> You're being a pain in the butt on purpose. You're wasting officers time to deal with you when we can be out serving the community right now.

[00:12:53]>> Then go do it. You're law enforcement.

[00:12:54]What law am I breaking? What law?

[00:12:58]>> Over there.

[00:13:00]Go.

[00:13:01]>> Sir, what law am I breaking?

[00:13:03]>> You are breaking You're impeding traffic. You >> How am I impeding traffic? I am not in That is the street. That is where they drive. not stand in a turn.

[00:13:12]>> This is a place. This is a turn lane.

[00:13:16]This is a place that this is a place that the public if you say if you say that there's no public sidewalk, this is the sidewalk, sir. The city did. This is city property. You cannot trespass me from city property. And I'm not blocking anybody. I can clearly and I am old enough to get out of any car's way.

[00:13:41]I don't care what Jag says. Jag is on the base. This is not base property.

[00:13:47]That where he is standing is not base property, sir. No, it's not.

[00:13:51]>> Then step over here and refuse to leave and see >> those freaking holes.

[00:13:54]>> Step over here.

[00:13:55]>> They cannot do that.

[00:13:56]>> Then stand here and refuse to leave.

[00:13:58]>> I'm standing where I'm standing.

[00:14:03]>> Thank you, sir. There has to be public easement for me to get to and from, right, >> sir. Hey, so this is the good news.

[00:14:11]Okay. He's going to head over there.

[00:14:13]He's going to confirm that uh you're not going to be breaking any laws by standing where you're at. But if you are, then we're going to have to act.

[00:14:21]Okay? You understand that?

[00:14:23]>> I was leaving before six armed men came out and talked to me. Now I got more armed men.

[00:14:28]>> If you were leaving, then that's >> I was leaving.

[00:14:30]>> All right, man. Good night.

[00:14:31]>> But now you guys should leave before I do.

[00:14:34]>> Why would we leave? Because I'm not breaking the law. What law am I breaking?

[00:14:37]>> Okay. Well, what if we're just hanging out here? Are you better? If you're better leave, then we're just hanging out here.

[00:14:41]>> But he says you guys have better stuff to do.

[00:14:44]>> We do.

[00:14:44]>> Then please go do it. I pay your tax. I pay my taxes for you guys to go out and do stuff.

[00:14:49]>> I appreciate you doing that.

[00:14:51]>> Well, then why don't you go out and do it instead of bothering citizens? This is constitutionally protected activity.

[00:14:59]First amendment. You swore an oath to that, right?

[00:15:02]Did you wear an O? Because every citizen in this country is a journalist by on the day that they're born.

[00:15:11]>> That's interesting.

[00:15:11]>> First amendment. First amendment press.

[00:15:14]What is the first amendment?

[00:15:15]>> Religion, press, speech.

[00:15:19]>> Okay. Second amendment. I almost came down here with my gun on. Which is my second amendment.

[00:15:25]>> What's the third? What's the fourth?

[00:15:27]Fourth is being secure in your person, your documents, your papers, your ID.

[00:15:33]That's why you guys that's why you guys are not going to get my ID because I haven't done anything wrong. Fifth Amendment right to remain silent.

[00:15:41]>> Okay?

[00:15:42]>> You know that.

[00:15:42]>> Well, here's this one. Okay. If you violate an ordinance violation, so if you have a little ordinance violation going out there and you refuse to identify, >> what ordinance am I breaking?

[00:15:53]>> That's we're about to find out. If you're going to be like right here, so I can't ride my bike on here, right? Is that what you're telling me?

[00:16:00]>> Well, here you can ride on here all you want.

[00:16:03]>> Tell then why can't I stand here?

[00:16:04]>> I don't know. You think that you'd be able to stand right with somebody else riding their bike and they end up having to go into traffic to get hit by a car because you're blocking their >> What am I blocking? There's plenty enough room here.

[00:16:15]>> Yeah, >> you guys are looking really dumb. What'd you find out, Sergeant?

[00:16:20]>> What'd you find out?

[00:16:21]>> Are you leaving?

[00:16:21]>> I was leaving. Like I was telling them, I was leaving before you guys even >> I will.

[00:16:27]>> Okay.

[00:16:28]>> What were you going to charge me with?

[00:16:31]>> Traffic. You're in the roadway.

[00:16:33]>> How am >> are you? It doesn't matter. You're leaving. Are you leaving?

[00:16:36]>> I was I was going to leave. Why don't you guys leave before me?

[00:16:39]>> No, we're not doing that.

[00:16:42]>> Armed officers tried to intimidate a citizen on a public easement, demanding ID without legal cause while he calmly cited his First and Fifth Amendment protections. The GIS survey and measured distance proved no traffic was impeded.

[00:16:55]Yet enforcement still >> this segment delivers the legal resolution that the military base encounter needed and it comes from within the officer's own ranks. The auditor's central challenge is repeated with the precision of someone who knows it cannot be answered. What law am I breaking? What law? The officers offer traffic obstruction. He is standing in the roadway. The auditor identifies the legal flaw immediately. If there is no sidewalk, the public must be able to walk somewhere. There must be an easement. The telephone poles were not placed there by the military. The utility infrastructure confirms public right of way. Then a senior officer arrives and rather than escalating further, he does something the previous officers refused to do. He goes to check the GIS survey. The auditor watches and waits. The result comes back. He's going to confirm that you're not going to be breaking any laws by standing where you're at. The officers acknowledge it.

[00:17:53]The auditor has been right the entire time. I was leaving before six armed men came out and talked to me. Now I got more armed men. And then the closing challenge that ends the encounter on the exact legal foundation. It should have started on. What were you going to charge me with? Traffic. How am I impeding traffic? No answer. Because there is no answer. The auditor was on public property. He knew it. The GIS survey confirmed it. And the officers who surrounded him with firearms leave without having established a single lawful basis for being there.

[00:18:27]>> Hovered ungrounded. It's a stark reminder. Knowledge of rights is the real shield against overreach.

[00:18:42]>> Now, I'm going to ask you, what do you do? You can't tell me you don't speak English.

[00:18:47]>> Demand answers out of people all the time in public or just >> I'm demanding the answer that you Okay.

[00:18:52]Well, you're not getting one.

[00:18:53]>> Well, that's fine. [ __ ] What would you mind giving me some space?

[00:19:14]Oh, that good.

[00:19:15]>> What are you out of your mind, bro? You just walk up to somebody on a public sidewalk and grab them.

[00:19:21]>> Just grab me.

[00:19:22]>> I know. I got the whole thing on video.

[00:19:24]What? What the hell is wrong with you?

[00:19:25]>> How about you next?

[00:19:26]>> Yeah. You want Don't with me, bro.

[00:19:28]>> It didn't take >> back up. Back up. I got something else that'll take. Just stay out of my face.

[00:19:33]>> You just assaulted a 17-year-old kid on the side.

[00:19:36]>> No, I didn't. I can assault an old bastard like you.

[00:19:38]>> Knock yourself out, bro. If that's what you want to do, knock yourself out.

[00:19:41]>> I took that camera in my face. I would suggest you get in your car and go about your day.

[00:19:45]>> Well, really?

[00:19:46]>> Yeah. And stop walking towards me.

[00:19:49]>> Or what?

[00:19:50]>> Sidewalking towards me.

[00:19:51]>> Public sidewalk?

[00:19:52]>> Yeah. Well, you obviously don't know the rules, my friend.

[00:19:59]>> I would just get back in your car and go home.

[00:20:01]>> I'm going to call the cops.

[00:20:02]>> You're going to call the cops after you assaulted a 17-year-old kid? You're going to leave here in handcuffs. You're on two cameras.

[00:20:07]>> Okay.

[00:20:08]>> All right.

[00:20:10]Knock yourself out.

[00:20:12]I'm going to go get your plate number while you're doing that. You go right ahead there.

[00:20:15]>> Yeah. Oh, I will.

[00:20:18]>> Well, you like threatening people.

[00:20:19]You're You're leaving here in cuffs today, buddy. You made a big mistake.

[00:20:28]So, you got Arizona AYV1829.

[00:20:35]Some kind of piece of Mazda.

[00:20:41]Sorry.

[00:20:41]>> You guys are home.

[00:20:43]>> This young man right here. Yes.

[00:20:45]>> Okay. Just wait for me.

[00:20:46]>> That's why we're over here. We're trying to give him some room.

[00:20:48]>> Okay.

[00:20:52]>> How we doing, sir?

[00:20:52]>> Hi.

[00:20:55]>> You guys okay?

[00:20:56]>> I He was actually the one involved. You can speak directly to him.

[00:21:00]>> Yeah. All right. So, I was standing right there on the public sidewalk just taking some video and the guy who was driving that silver SUV over there got out and got in my face and tried to grab me and assault me.

[00:21:12]>> Do you have it on camera?

[00:21:13]>> Yeah.

[00:21:15]>> Uh, yeah.

[00:21:17]>> What was that?

[00:21:17]>> What was the issue about?

[00:21:19]>> So, I was just standing there taking video and he came up demanding answers getting way closer than >> Oh, no.

[00:21:25]>> Are you you involved? Do you mind if I talk you over here, please? Am I involved there? No, I was not involved.

[00:21:30]>> Did you witness what happened?

[00:21:31]>> I did witness what happened. Yeah, he's inside. Yeah, >> the guy's inside.

[00:21:34]>> I think unless he went out the back door. He went in the office there.

[00:21:37]>> So, yeah.

[00:21:37]>> Okay. Can you tell me a little bit of what happened?

[00:21:40]>> Well, we're out here.

[00:21:41]>> What happened?

[00:21:42]>> Yeah, we're out here taking some video on the sidewalk.

[00:21:44]>> Do you do you mind just moving it? You can still record me, but >> Well, it's a very tight lens and you're standing 2 ft. So, let me back up from you a couple of feet and then it won't be in your face. Um, so a woman named Tammy who works here before this all happened came out, saw us taking video.

[00:21:58]She came out, said, "Hey guys, how's it going?" "Uh, as long as you stay on the sidewalk, you're good. No problems. Just don't come on the property." We said, "We got you, Tammy." No, Tammy.

[00:22:04]>> Yep.

[00:22:05]>> Um, so she went back inside. No issues.

[00:22:08]Then this guy goes to pull out. I guess he was done with his inspection.

[00:22:11]>> Um, >> so he doesn't work.

[00:22:13]>> I don't know.

[00:22:14]>> Not that you know of.

[00:22:15]>> Not that I know of. No, I'm assuming he was getting his car inspected. So he comes driving out, rolls, we were standing on the other side of the street on the sidewalk. He comes driving out, puts his window down, and says, "What are you guys doing?" So I just ignored him. I just kept doing what I was doing.

[00:22:28]And then he said, "Hey, what are you guys What's with the cameras? What are you doing?"

[00:22:31]>> Just ignored him. So then he gets out of his car. This is my son who's 17 years old, by the way. So he a minor. Um you guys >> walks up to him and says, "What are you doing with the cameras? What are you recording?" And my son said something.

[00:22:44]>> Walks up to your son.

[00:22:45]>> Yeah. I was about I don't know 5 10 ft behind him.

[00:22:48]>> This is the most alarming segment in this entire video because the threat in this encounter does not come from law enforcement. It comes from a civilian who walks up to a 17-year-old boy on a public sidewalk and physically grabs him. The auditor and his son are filming outside in a missions inspection business. An employee named Tammy has already come out, confirmed they are fine on the sidewalk and gone back inside. A man leaving the business, apparently a customer, not an employee, rolls down his window, demands to know what the cameras are for, gets no answer, parks his car, gets out, and walks up to the teenager. What are you guys doing with the cameras?

[00:23:30]The son declines to answer. The man grabs his hand and starts pulling him forward. The teenager responds with what he has on him, pepper spray. The man is sprayed. The auditor documents the vehicle. Arizona plate a YV1829 silver Mazda SUV. The man retreats into the building threatening to call the police. The auditor's response is the legally correct one. You're going to call the cops after you assaulted a 17-year-old kid. You're going to leave here in handcuffs. You're on two cameras. He is right. The assault is on video. The plate is documented. And when the police arrive, the father does not hesitate. Do you want to prosecute for any charges? Yeah, absolutely.

[00:24:14]>> So, he said something to the effect of, "Well, what are you filming for? What are the cameras for?" Something. I don't remember. We'd have to watch the video.

[00:24:20]>> Uhhuh.

[00:24:20]>> Um, and my son just said, "I'm not interested in answering your questions.

[00:24:24]I'm just doing what I do." And the guy walked up, grabbed his hand, and started pulling him in towards him.

[00:24:28]>> So, he reach grabbed your son's hand that video. Um, >> I get my dude.

[00:24:36]>> We would like to cuz I mean if it's evidence to a crime, you don't have to show it to us.

[00:24:42]>> Well, I would It's up to you what you want to do, but I would suggest you press charges against him.

[00:24:45]>> Yeah, I would.

[00:24:46]>> I mean, that's He's 17.

[00:24:49]>> He's 17. Yep.

[00:24:50]>> He's 17.

[00:24:51]>> Yeah, he's a minor.

[00:24:52]>> Okay. Well, who's where's his parents?

[00:24:54]>> I'm his father.

[00:24:54]>> You're his father? Do you want to prosecute for any charges?

[00:24:57]>> Yeah, absolutely.

[00:24:58]>> You're the father, so >> Yep. He walked up and grabbed him and then he was the guy grabbed his hand, was pulling him in towards him. Love uh Nebos, by the way. Good flashlight.

[00:25:06]>> Okay.

[00:25:06]>> Um >> and then my son did what he had to do.

[00:25:09]He took his pepper spray out, sprayed him.

[00:25:11]>> Do you have the recording of what happened?

[00:25:13]>> He's got it. Yeah.

[00:25:14]>> Yeah.

[00:25:14]>> Yeah. One of us is He'll show you his and I'll keep recording.

[00:25:16]>> What's your name, sir?

[00:25:18]>> My name is Jason. First name Jason. J A S O N.

[00:25:20]>> Jason.

[00:25:20]>> Yeah.

[00:25:21]>> Last name.

[00:25:23]>> And just Why are you guys here recording?

[00:25:26]>> Why am I here recording?

[00:25:27]>> Yeah, just >> just doing what I do. That's what I do for a living.

[00:25:29]>> That's what you do for a living.

[00:25:30]>> Yes. So, we're doing a little story about the emissions.

[00:25:34]>> Okay.

[00:25:34]>> And like I said, we never went on their property. No issues with the >> employees. No problems with employees.

[00:25:38]But this >> the employee actually came out and said, "You guys are fine doing what you do.

[00:25:41]Just don't come on the property." We said no problem.

[00:25:42]>> Thank you, sir.

[00:25:43]>> Yep. No, thank you. And can I just get your name and badge number so I know?

[00:25:46]>> It's right here. He does. 1028.

[00:25:49]Okay.

[00:25:49]>> Okay. I'll give it to you. I'll give it to you right now.

[00:25:52]>> All right. No, I appreciate it. Thank you.

[00:25:54]>> Okay.

[00:25:55]>> All right. Thank you guys.

[00:25:56]>> What was this gentleman wearing? Just buy it. I'll give you the information.

[00:25:59]>> He's a tall guy. He's maybe I don't know 6'3, 6'4.

[00:26:02]>> I think he's got a great t-shirt on. He went in there.

[00:26:05]>> That's his vehicle parked right there.

[00:26:06]Yeah.

[00:26:08]>> Oh, here they come, fellas.

[00:26:14]>> Can you guys wait on the sidewalk, please?

[00:26:16]>> Oh, I'm trying to hide behind the shade of your car.

[00:26:19]>> Go in the shade, then. I don't want you to get hit by a car.

[00:26:21]>> Oh, I won't get hit.

[00:26:22]>> Can we go in the on the on the sidewalk, please?

[00:26:25]>> Well, I don't want to stand in the sun.

[00:26:27]Well, we're we can't be standing in the street as pedestrians. So, let let's let's go on the sidewalk.

[00:26:31]>> Can't be standing in the street as pedestrians. All right. So, what are we doing with this guy?

[00:26:34]>> So, he's going to get charged for assault.

[00:26:36]>> Okay.

[00:26:37]>> Okay. Uh we have the video on that actual camera there.

[00:26:41]>> So, you watch the video?

[00:26:42]>> Yeah, I did. I don't sure. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:26:43]No problem. I just don't You can understand with my parents. I do. I work in the sun all day.

[00:26:48]>> So, I hear you. We can walk over here in the shade if you want.

[00:26:50]>> Okay. Sounds good.

[00:26:51]>> I'm okay with that.

[00:26:52]>> Very good.

[00:26:52]>> I'm sorry. Can Yeah, I didn't ask you.

[00:26:53]Uh can I just ask your name?

[00:26:54]>> Sure. Santa Maria 49996.

[00:26:57]>> 49996. Thank you.

[00:26:58]>> Three nights in there. Okay.

[00:26:59]>> Appreciate that.

[00:26:59]>> So yeah, we actually saw that camera there and it's actually pretty >> clear as day. And uh he showed us his video >> cuz he was recording you guys at the same time.

[00:27:10]>> Okay.

[00:27:10]>> So >> So he basically called the police on himself.

[00:27:12]>> He didn't call the police.

[00:27:13]>> Oh, he didn't?

[00:27:14]>> No, he did not.

[00:27:14]>> Oh, I thought he did. He said he was going inside to call you the staff.

[00:27:17]>> Oh, okay. Got you.

[00:27:19]>> That's where we're at. He's already been explained exactly what's going to happen. Um an arrest.

[00:27:23]>> Okay. and uh and he'll have his day in court.

[00:27:26]>> Okay.

[00:27:26]>> Okay. Do you have any questions? We're going to get you the case number and >> Sure. Yeah. I was just going to say I just need a case number and that's it.

[00:27:31]No. And I got to tell you guys, I really appreciate you being thorough and professional.

[00:27:34]>> Of course. No, you got And I was cuz I was explaining to them um because they were >> I guess they were aware. You guys have a YouTube channel. I guess >> we do. Yeah. The cat's out of the bag.

[00:27:44]So, yeah. So, uh >> Oh, they knew about that.

[00:27:46]>> Yeah, they knew about that. I guess they had like a company email that says, "Hey, be aware. These guys might show up." Gotcha.

[00:27:51]>> And uh >> Good on them. And so they were aware of it and then I guess that's why the representative came out to talk to you guys because you know she's like hey maybe and then she talked to you and she's like yeah that's them.

[00:27:59]>> So she told you the same story I told you >> she well I was speaking to the other officer.

[00:28:03]>> Yeah I heard something which but anyway >> so she came out and said just stay on the sidewalk you guys are good. See >> yeah she just asked if you guys need anything. She like No. She's like okay sidewalk's fine like >> I was just hoping she told you the accurate.

[00:28:12]>> Yeah. No no no no no. Yeah she was. Yeah she she >> she seemed like a nice enough person.

[00:28:16]>> She was Yeah. She was actually very polite. So >> and this guy I don't know what makes people think like that. But I mean, you deal with it all the time.

[00:28:22]>> You know, I I guess I can I can understand both sides. Okay. I can understand your guys's right to exercise your First Amendment. I can understand his of not wanting to be recorded. Not some people don't want >> I can understand him asking the question.

[00:28:34]>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm not justifying his action. I'm not That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying I can understand his curiosity and his concern for being recorded out in public. I I totally get that because if I was out in public and I saw somebody recording like, "Hey, what's >> Well, the only thing is is though we're not we weren't recording him. We were recording the business.

[00:28:49]>> It doesn't matter. People's minds think differently. Okay. They they they he must have thought >> that you guys were recording.

[00:28:55]>> Is he an employee here?

[00:28:56]>> Uh to my knowledge, no, but I don't know that for sure. I don't >> cuz I just saw when somebody left, I saw him go lock the door. So I was like, "Oh, maybe he's an employee."

[00:29:03]>> He maybe he locked the door cuz he didn't want you to come in. I don't I don't know. I don't know if he's a employee or not.

[00:29:07]>> I don't think he was. Yeah. But all right.

[00:29:08]>> So I I I can understand him having that curiosity. It doesn't justify his actions by any stretch of anyone's imagination, but I I can get it. You know, I get it. And then uh I explained to the employees that, you know, while you guys are on public sidewalk, there's >> there's they knew that.

[00:29:27]>> Yeah. But and I just reiterated that they're they're exercising their constitutional rights. That's like wherever my eyes can look while I'm in public, >> a camera can look.

[00:29:39]>> Exactly.

[00:29:39]>> I mean, that's just it's just simple.

[00:29:41]You know what I mean? That's like if I'm standing on the sidewalk looking into their yard, but I reach over their fence. Now, that's a different story.

[00:29:47]>> Yeah. We don't go to Yeah, but if they have a twoft fence >> and I'm standing on, you know, the residential sidewalk and I can look over, that's a different story. That that's it's the first amendment. Like >> Yep. Well, well, I appreciate you being so educated and properly trained.

[00:30:02]>> That's it's >> Well, because you know what I equate it to? It's like, let's say this guy was walking down the street and I had some name of a band on my shirt and he or a football team and he doesn't like that football team. That's the same thing.

[00:30:11]You walk up and grab me.

[00:30:13]>> No, no, no. And then I explained to them like like look man, everybody's rights end where somebody else's rights begin.

[00:30:18]>> That's correct.

[00:30:19]>> The responding officer's handling of this assault case is the most professionally instructive moment in this entire video because he does everything that should be done when a First Amendment auditor is the victim rather than the subject of a complaint.

[00:30:32]He listens to the father's full account without interruption. He asks whether the video evidence is available. He reviews it on scene. He confirms what the footage shows. an unprovoked physical contact with a minor initiated by a civilian who had no legal authority to demand answers or make physical contact. His assessment, he basically called the police on himself. Then the officer confirms charges will be filed, paper arrest, which carries the same legal weight as physical custody with a court date assigned. And the auditor, rather than escalating the moment, does something that reveals the kind of person this entire video has been documenting. He offers the attacker an exit. If he wants to come out and apologize to my son, we would be willing to consider not pressing charges.

[00:31:20]The officer asks. The attacker declines.

[00:31:24]And the auditor's response is final.

[00:31:26]That's not sincere. I'm not interested in it. I want to proceed with filing charges. That's the end of it. I don't flip back and forth. Case number provided. Badge number provided. The officer praises the auditor's conduct and the man who grabbed a 17-year-old on a public sidewalk leaves with a court date instead of an apology accepted.

[00:31:48]>> You know what I'm saying? Like like >> here you go, sir.

[00:31:50]>> This is this is the case number.

[00:31:52]>> That's my name. That's my badge. Okay.

[00:31:53]>> That's what I'm going to document the inside.

[00:31:55]>> All right. Very good.

[00:31:56]>> His right to privacy ends at your right to not be assaulted >> forever. You know what I'm saying?

[00:32:00]>> Well, you're going to want his video.

[00:32:02]I'm sure that's the first person.

[00:32:03]>> I'll send you a link. We have your info, right?

[00:32:05]>> Yeah. Yeah, I gave you. So, he didn't want to give me a phone number, but I have his email. We're going to send you a link to your email >> to that email so you can upload a copy of that video to us. So, we have >> And now what happens? So, he he's going to be let go here on the scene, but he's actually going to get arrested.

[00:32:19]>> Same amount of weight as a physical arrest.

[00:32:21]>> Okay.

[00:32:22]>> But he has a date. He has >> So, I'm going to tell you this. I've already discussed with myself. Have you guys already initiated the process of arresting him?

[00:32:28]>> No, we haven't completed the citation.

[00:32:29]>> If he wants to come out and apologize to my son, we would be willing to consider not pressing charges against him. Just want to throw that out there.

[00:32:37]>> That's up to him. He's probably going to tell you he doesn't want to apologize, but I just want to put that out there just to be a gentleman about it.

[00:32:42]>> We'll ask him.

[00:32:43]>> Okay.

[00:32:43]>> I I can ask him. I just don't want any other conflict. You know what I mean?

[00:32:46]>> Oh, I'm getting in my truck and leaving as soon as I don't even live in the state of Arizona.

[00:32:50]>> I don't think there I don't I'm confident there not going to be an issue on our end. So, on this end, >> yeah, cuz I don't think he's going to be an issue either.

[00:32:57]>> Let's just ask.

[00:32:58]>> I'll ask. But my whole thing is, and you know what? I'm I'm the kind of guy I think if you leave your house, right, and you forgot your keys or you forgot your wallet and you get 15 minutes down the road and you say, "Damn it, I got to turn around and go home." Maybe you were just about to get in a bad accident and that's somebody the powers that be >> everything happens. Exactly.

[00:33:14]>> So, I would like to believe that maybe this incident prevented him from doing something foolish tomorrow to somebody else that would have ended a lot worse.

[00:33:21]You know, hopefully.

[00:33:22]>> We'll ask him. Okay.

[00:33:23]>> So, I think he learned his lesson and if he wants to be a man about it and apologize, we can live with that.

[00:33:26]>> We'll ask him. Okay.

[00:33:27]>> We'll ask him.

[00:33:28]>> All right.

[00:33:28]>> Very good. What we do is is we go out, we try to have productive, positive conversations, open up dialogue. We love to talk to law enforcement. We love to talk to citizens on the street. We don't approach anybody, but if somebody approaches us and they're open-minded, they want to have a conversation.

[00:33:42]>> Yeah.

[00:33:43]>> Maybe we can learn something, maybe they can learn something. And we love to exercise our rights because rights are like muscles. And if you don't exercise them, they go away or they get taken from you.

[00:33:51]>> Yeah. Well, I always say if if if it can get taken from you, it's not a right. If you have if you have to pay for it, it's not a right. rights get taken from you, too. Just ask uh ask people in Australia.

[00:34:00]>> Yeah.

[00:34:02]>> Well, we have a constitution. Thank God for that. And that that protects us.

[00:34:05]>> Well, there's a lot of people that want to tear that piece of paper up and burn it in the fireplace. Were you in the military?

[00:34:09]>> Can't do No, sir. I was No.

[00:34:10]>> No. But that that can't happen. I refuse to let that happen.

[00:34:13]>> Well, I I I appreciate your vigor, but >> things are happening in this world which 10 years ago we would have all said is never going to happen.

[00:34:21]>> I I can understand that, >> you know. So, that's what we're trying to do.

[00:34:24]>> Not to protect the Constitution and people's constitutional rights. And that's what I'm going to do.

[00:34:27]>> Well, you've done that here today and I I seriously applaud you for that because >> you know what I always say there's good photographers, there's bad photographers. There's good seamstresses and there's bad se There's good law enforcement and bad law enforcement.

[00:34:37]Right.

[00:34:38]>> So, >> you representing yourself as one of the good guys here today. We like to support the good policing in this country. We support No, we definitely do. And uh we think that >> something I always ask law enforcement when I have these conversations, what do you think a law a good law enforcement officer's worst enemy is?

[00:34:57]what a good law enforcement officer's worst enemy is.

[00:35:00]>> Yep. Uh >> two words.

[00:35:02]>> Bad law enforcement.

[00:35:03]>> Bad cop. Yeah.

[00:35:05]>> Those guys are getting good cops hurt and killed every day, every week, whatever it is. And we think that's terrible. Shouldn't be that way. And I think part of it comes with there's the whole back of blue thing and there's become that whole like brotherhood group, gang, whatever you want to call it. And sometimes that's not doing because bad cops are out there not doing us any favors and they're not doing you any favors.

[00:35:28]>> Oh, people do that, sir. It's it's it's just the thing nowadays. That's that's you know what I mean? What can I tell you? People do that. I'm going to step out of the way and let you >> Thank you. Okay. I'm sorry I touched you. I still was just curious what what this is about. I I I don't understand.

[00:35:47]But if you're not going to tell me, that's fine.

[00:35:48]>> I'd be happy to explain it to you now.

[00:35:50]>> No, we're not talking. You and I are not talking.

[00:35:52]>> Oh, okay.

[00:35:52]>> I just didn't I thought maybe >> Dude, I don't want to.

[00:35:55]>> No, no, no. Listen. I thought maybe you were doing a school project or something. I just was curious. I didn't want to >> You know what? Since it's my Since it's my decision, then go ahead. Let's go ahead with the arrest, then. Let's just do that. That's not an apology. That's not sincere. And I'm not No, I'm not interested in it. I want I'm not I don't want to hear any of it.

[00:36:09]>> I am sorry.

[00:36:10]>> No, I don't I don't want to hear any of it. I want I'm just going to proceed with filing charges and that's the end of it.

[00:36:14]>> Avoid an argument. Let's go back over to you. Okay. All right.

[00:36:17]>> No, you we're just going to go ahead and press charges and handle it that way.

[00:36:20]I'm not going to change my mind at this point. I don't flip back and forth.

[00:36:23]That's the end of it.

[00:36:25]>> An auditor was attacked by this unknown man, but thanks to staying calm and using pepper spray, the assault was prevented. Police reviewed the footage, confirmed the attack, charged the aggressor, and praised the auditor's restraint. This is a clear example of the law in action. Evidence and professionalism protect citizens while holding reckless behavior accountable, showing that calmness and lawful conduct help ensure everyone's safety. We created this video with a constructive and reasonable spirit, aiming to help viewers understand their personal rights so they can protect themselves within the bounds of the law and peaceful behavior.

[00:37:00]>> All right, we're um but you don't have insurance directly on the car right now.

[00:37:05]>> YouTube thinks you'll love the video on the screen. Click to watch now.

[00:37:08]>> I owe you something people to be in.

[00:37:11]>> And this is how this video ends. Not with confrontation, not with handcuffs, but with one of the most genuine officer to auditor conversations in any recent First Amendment video. The officer and the auditor discuss the broader context.

[00:37:24]What First Amendment auditing is, why it matters, and what it means for policing when it is done correctly. The officer confirms the legal standard that should govern every encounter in this video.

[00:37:35]where my eyes can look while I'm in public, a camera can look. If I'm standing on the sidewalk looking into their yard, but reach over their fence, now that's a different story. Then the question that closes this conversation with more honesty than most policy statements. What do you think a good law enforcement officer's worst enemy is?

[00:37:54]The officer does not hesitate. Bad law enforcement, bad cops. And the auditor's response names exactly why that matters.

[00:38:03]Those guys are getting good cops hurt.

[00:38:05]and killed every day and they're not doing you any favors. The attacker makes one final attempt, a non-apology about being curious, about thinking it might be a school project. The auditor cuts it off immediately. That's not sincere. I don't want to hear any of it. Charges proceed. The officer applauds the auditor's conduct, and the video closes with a line that summarizes every encounter across this entire video.

[00:38:31]Rights are like muscles. If you don't exercise them, they go away or they get taken from you.