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[00:00:04]The >> premise of Lifeback is super simple.

[00:00:07]It's place, hold the mass, slow push, quick pull, and sucks out the obstruction.

[00:00:14]>> But there's not data right now showing that these devices were more effective than traditional first aid.

[00:00:22]Tonight, a New York 1 investigation looks into the medical debate over the proliferation of anti- choking devices and how city lawmakers passed a bill requiring that the devices be stocked in every school in the five burrows, even as they face ongoing concerns from the medical community. Governor Hokll was on the campaign trail today with Representative Dan Goldman, but her endorsement puts her at odds with Mayor Mom Donnie, who is backing Goldman's primary opponent, Brad Lander.

[00:00:50]Vicky Paladino and the city council have agreed to end their fight over Paladino's social media posts. We'll explain how things were settled. For the best news, debate, and analysis of New York politics, join us inside City Hall.

[00:01:21]Good evening. Welcome to Inside City Hall for Monday, May 11th, 2026. I'm Errol Lewis. We begin tonight's show with a special report you'll only see on New York 1. They are small, handheld, and promoted as saving lives during emergencies. Anti- choking devices are designed to clear the airway of a person while they're choking. The city council passed legislation at the end of last year to require that the devices be placed in every school in our city. But there's an active debate by medical professionals over whether to endorse the products. And there are questions over how the products are marketed to the public. In this New York One investigation, executive political producer Charlie May and our own Ayanna Harry examine both sides of the debate.

[00:02:03]Ayanna joins me now with tonight's top story. Good evening.

[00:02:06]>> Good evening, Errol. These anti- choking devices have been used in homes and in restaurants. And some police departments even have officers carry them in patrol cars. They are credited with saving thousands of lives. And one former council member wants to see these devices in each and every school building. But some leading medical voices are not convinced.

[00:02:33]>> Daring dramatic rescues.

[00:02:35]>> Okay, >> hang on, buddy. Hang on.

[00:02:37]>> Documented on camera, a child is choking. Parents are in a desperate panic until the child's airway is finally clear.

[00:02:45]>> Oh my.

[00:02:46]>> Yeah, no problem.

[00:02:47]>> Oh my god.

[00:02:48]>> A save made using a simple handheld anti- choking device.

[00:02:58]While the Heimlick maneuver has been known as the go-to solution for choking for half a century, in the last decade, anti- choking or airway clearance devices have grown in popularity, thanks in part to news reports and social media. They're placed over a choking victim's nose and mouth to create suction. The user then pulls a handle up to activate the suction and dislodge an object stuck in a victim's throat. A simple device that you may not have heard of saved the day.

[00:03:26]>> There's now a rising movement to require schools be stocked with airway clearance devices across the country, including right here in New York City.

[00:03:33]>> In that few seconds, you want every opportunity available to help somebody to, you know, help them stop choking.

[00:03:41]>> Former city council member Christy Murado led the effort to mandate airway clearance devices in every school building in New York City. The legislation she sponsored quietly passed in December just before Mamorado left office. For her, the issue is personal.

[00:03:57]>> 30 years ago, uh we lost my grandfather to choking a choking event in a restaurant and they did do a Heimlick maneuver. It was a failed attempt.

[00:04:05]>> Before stepping into politics, Marado had a 20-year career in healthcare as an X-ray technician. She convinced more than a dozen council members to co-sponsor her in city schools.

[00:04:18]>> It's a common sense piece of legislation. It's for children.

[00:04:21]>> The creator of a leading anti- choking device known as LifeVac made a commitment to provide >> one free life pack to any school >> and they will train them as well. But the law only takes effect when and if a device receives FDA authorization for use in school age children during choking emergencies. And there's formal guidance on using the devices from the American Heart Association or the American Red Cross. And questions have surfaced about the science and the sales of airway clearance devices.

[00:04:51]>> I am an ER doctor and I am a mom. I have three children. So if there is something better to help us with choking, I am all for it. So, I did a really deep dive because there is a lot there are a lot of viral videos about these devices.

[00:05:04]>> Dr. Daria Long sought to answer the question, how effective are anti- choking devices in an emergency?

[00:05:10]>> I bought all the devices myself and tried them as much as you can on yourself, tried them on my children, tried them on my husband. And I also really dove into what is the literature that exists, what are the studies.

[00:05:22]>> What she found was not straightforward.

[00:05:25]There's not data right now of human data looking at these that is that is from independent sources that is really showing that these devices were more effective than traditional first aid.

[00:05:37]There are some other studies that have shown potential problems such as like in when in done in cadabas they show that after multiple times it can create some swelling. The American Red Cross, the American Heart Association, and the FDA all advise if a person is choking, use established protocols like the Heimlick maneuver first. Anti- choking devices should only be used as a backup if the Heimlick isn't working.

[00:06:00]>> I have never yet seen a report where the Heimlick maneuver was properly performed where it didn't work. Son of the creator of the Heimlick maneuver, Phil Heimlick, has been critical of airway clearance devices and the companies behind them, saying they don't make it clear enough that the devices are only supposed to be used as a backup after back blows. The Heimlick maneuver.

[00:06:20]>> My father spoke out very strongly against these devices because, as he explained, when you are choking, you only have four minutes before death or brain damage sets in. and my father specifically warned that going hunting for some device uh is going to likely cost the life of the person.

[00:06:42]>> In February of 2025, as the council weighed mandating airway clearance devices in city schools, the state office of children and family services sent this letter to child care programs across New York advising established rescue protocols do not include anti- choking devices. The FDA cautions that using anti-choking devices as a first response could delay action. And seven months later, the FDA sent this warning letter directly to LifeVac, pointing out FDA is concerned that your firm's continued unauthorized marketing and distribution of the LifeVac rescue suction device may put the public health and safety at risk. I learned that a New York City council was also considering this was to to require one of these devices in every school and I sent letters out to the members of city council and I I showed them the facts on these devices there that that they can cause injury to the victim.

[00:07:38]>> We asked Marado if she consulted with any medical authorities while pushing for the bill.

[00:07:42]>> I was in the medical field for 24 years.

[00:07:44]I do have CPR certification and I do know that the him remov man maneuver is the first line of defense. We know that we have something additional that can possibly save somebody's life. After years of warning in March, the FDA issued new guidance authorizing one anti- choking device for marketing and distribution as a second line treatment for choking in the US. The LifeVac creator Arthur Lee says the change in classification from the FDA did not come overnight. It took us two years intensive uh scientific data um testing u force cadaavver uh simulation biostistician analysis uh packaging everything.

[00:08:26]>> A closer look at the FDA's own decision shows federal regulators had some concerns about the quality of life's data. The agency said earlier reporting methods may have favored success stories, warning the results could be positively biased. LifeVAC later revised its reporting process, but the FDA is still requiring post world results. Leading medical authorities like the American Heart Association and the American Red Cross say further scientific research is necessary. In the meantime, Arthur Lee says he'll be focused on the mission of his company, saving lives.

[00:09:01]>> Get trained and have life back and we'll we'll stop one child from dying every 5 days and we'll have a year where no child dies. I see people on social saying, "Oh, you know, I was so nervous.

[00:09:12]I don't know how to do choking first aid, so I just bought one of these devices." And I mean, it's kind of like saying, "I didn't want to use my seat belt in my car, so I used my air, so I just bought a car with airbags." It's like, no, one does not replace the other.

[00:09:28]>> And in guidance updated in March, the FDA once again stressed using anti- choking devices before established protocols could delay lifesaving action.

[00:09:39]arrow.

[00:09:39]>> So, >> it's a relatively simple device to learn how to use and they do provide some training if, for example, a school system or a police department is making a large purchase and they also provide some training videos online, but it it isn't completely intuitive. You do have to put the device together. So, it comes in separate pieces that are all wrapped in plastic. So, you have to put the device together and you have to make sure that you have a firm placement on it in order to create that suction and then be able to pull uh an object that might be stuck in someone's throat out.

[00:10:17]>> Right. And Mr. Heimlick's uh concern, which I think probably most of our viewers would respond to, is that you got to act very very quickly. You don't have necessarily time to go find the device, put it together, ask who's trained on it, and start fussing around with that. Right? And that's really the main issue with these devices is that, you know, where where will the device be located in a school? If a student is on the fifth floor and the device is at the gymnasium, the time that it could take for a teacher to go from one floor to the gym and back up is time that the Heimlick maneuver or back blows and chest thrust could have been used and implemented to try and get that person to be out of that emergency. How closely did the city council look into this before they approved of these things being placed in city schools?

[00:11:02]>> We see often some long drawn out fights over legislation that really didn't happen with this. It happened smooth. It sailed through pretty smoothly um and passed quietly and every council member that was present for the vote in December voted in favor of it.

[00:11:17]>> And this was a onewoman show. This was Christy Marmarado. Was there like a team of of members or this is just something she really saw all the way through? This is something that Christy Marado saw all the way through council member Vicky Paladino. There was some correspondence that we found between her office and advocates for uh anti- choking devices as well. U but it's really for Marado something that she personally believes in as you heard her mention not only is she you know someone who previously worked in the healthcare industry but she lost her grandfather and during a city council hearing she told that story uh very personally.

[00:11:49]>> Um there's more to the story I know.

[00:11:51]What do you have coming up in part two?

[00:11:52]>> Yeah. So, in part two, we're going to take a look at so we wanted to know why did the city council pass this legislation when there were warnings from the FDA and from the state office of children and families. And so, we put in freedom of information requests to get some of the communications between the council members office, life, and another nonprofit organization, Equal First Aid. They have been pushing for these devices all across the country.

[00:12:15]And so, it's a closer look into what was behind that push.

[00:12:18]>> Okay, we will take a look at that tomorrow. Thanks very much, Ayanna.

[00:12:21]Let's uh take a short break now. When we come back, Representative Dan Goldman was on the campaign trail today seeking to fend off a primary challenge from Brad Lander. The move by uh getting support from the governor, as you see there, Governor Hokll, puts the governor at odds with Mayor Mom Donnie. We'll explain the ins and outs of that in 2 minutes. Stay with us.

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[00:14:55]Highlighting a proxy battle between two of New York's most powerful Democrats, Congressman Dan Goldman rallied with Governor Cathy Hokll and labor unions today as he tries to fend off a primary challenge from former city controller Brad Lander who was supported by Mayor Zoron Mdani. Our Bernardet Hogan was at today's campaign event and joins us with some details. Good evening Bernardet.

[00:15:15]>> Good evening, Errol. And although we are still several weeks away from early voting and the primary in June, Congressman Dan Goldman is one of those Democrats that is facing a very stiff challenge against an ally of the mayor.

[00:15:33]>> Come out with me to knock those doors to bring this energy. Facing a stiff primary challenge from former city comproller Brad Lander, New York Congressman Dan Goldman rallied with the Teamsters, electricians, and carpenters unions in a bid to keep his job representing the 12th congressional district covering parts of lower Manhattan and Brooklyn.

[00:15:53]>> We think that labor is going to make the difference because Dan is the man who represents those values and the principles that labor continues to fight for.

[00:16:01]>> Plus, the biggest municipal worker union, District Council 37. and I cannot win this election without you.

[00:16:08]>> Let's bring up HOPE FOR DAN GOLDMAN.

[00:16:11]>> His move to fight off Lander elevates a competitive rivalry between the state's top Democrats, Governor Kathy Hokll in Goldman's corner and Mayor Zoran Mandani's alliance with Lander.

[00:16:22]>> This race is between me and Brad Lander.

[00:16:26]Uh I think governor the governor having worked with me for four years recognizes who the better candidate is to deliver for New York. Although Hokll and Mumdani share a decent working and political relationship, their Democratic policies sometimes operate on different sides of the same party. Lander's campaign told New York 1 in a statement, quote, Brad is proud to have Mayor Mdani's support in this race. Unlike Dan Goldman, New York 10 strongly supported Zoran Mdani in the mayoral race. Meanwhile, DC37 President Henry Gerrio hinted at old wounds between the union and Lander's days as comproller. So we saw time and time and again a person who was for instance uh supposed to protect working people use his platform to uh uh do the opposite. Right? So for instance in our pension system we wanted to do green renewable energy which we saw and heard Dan talk about and yet we had a dismal performance on green renewable energy specifically in wind and offshore wind.

[00:17:28]Lander sparred with the unions over the city's decision to change retirement benefits and as a lame duck comproller audited the health insurance stabilization fund, enraging union leaders. Landers campaign told New York 1 in a statement, quote, "During Brad's four years as comproller, the city's pension fund investments, including offshore wind, increased from $4.3 billion to 17.6 billion." I um have been very surprised that someone who I worked well with uh for three three years um has run such a negative antagonistic campaign and I've been disappointed.

[00:18:08]>> Both Jewish Goldman and Lander have clashed over Israel and who is a better foil to President Donald Trump.

[00:18:16]And this Democrat-on ondemocrat uh sparring err also comes as Republicans are waging and Democrats waging redistricting wars across the nation and it's about to start in New York. We asked Goldman what he thinks about that and does he wish that his party gave him more assistance and he said listen I'm just focused on trying to get our party to win back the house.

[00:18:35]>> What did the union suggest that they were going to do as far as actual campaign help? I mean I know that there's the matter of their members which could actually be quite numerous in a congressional district.

[00:18:45]>> Right. largely doornocking uh trying to pound the pavement with as many bodies.

[00:18:50]One one question that I had for the congressman was well you know you haven't received uh other endorsements from the United Federation of Teachers, Hotel Trades, other powerful unions. And Gerrio actually jumped in and said, well DC37 has residency requirements, so we actually live in New York City as opposed to maybe some of the other unions that you could live on Long Island or you could live in Westchester and come into the city. So they're trying to prove that the numbers could count. Begs the question, how many of those union members live in Goldman's district? I don't know.

[00:19:20]>> We know that Governor Hokll is interested in the outcome of congressional races. She used to be a member of Congress herself and she believes that it's important that Democrats control the House of Representatives. Is she getting involved in other races as far as we know, primaries?

[00:19:33]>> So far, I think the governor's team, they've told me they're trying to close up the budget and then she'll maybe come out more for Goldman and other Democrats. But it really is a tightwalk balance, right? Because Mandani is already playing in the Antonio Reynoso Clare Valdez primary, right? The empty Nidia seat in New York 7. Uh he's backed Valdez. The governor has not yet put her thumb on the scale there. But if you look at Goldman, he has endorsements from Nancy Pelosi. He has Hakee Jeff. He tends to run on the more establishment end. The governor has a political calculation to make. Does she want to weigh into primaries? Uh and which ones are important to her?

[00:20:11]>> Okay. Uh and then finally, the governor weighed in on this haunt virus issue, this uh cruise ship that's been sort of uh floating around and I guess there's some New Yorkers on board, >> right? Three New York state residents.

[00:20:23]One uh is from New York City and right now they're quarantining in Nebraska.

[00:20:27]The governor said that her scientists uh state scientists at the Wadssworth lab, which is one of the premier labs up in Albany, are preparing certain protocols.

[00:20:36]She's been getting briefings. The governor said right now there's nothing to worry and uh they're going to keep New Yorkers updated.

[00:20:42]>> Okay, thanks very much, Bernardet. In other news, the city council is dropping its discrims disciplinary case against Republican councilwoman Vicky Paladino over social media posts calling for the expulsion of Muslims from Western countries. That decision is part of a settlement of Paladino's First Amendment lawsuit. She claimed that she was targeted for being a conservative. Our Dan Rivllley has been looking into the settlement and joins us now with some details. Good evening, Dan. And >> good evening, Errol. So, that disciplinary case cited her for disorderly behavior over several social media posts and that prompted Paladino to file her first amendment lawsuit and when all parties got in a courtroom, as you see here, the judge implored both sides to come to a settlement. And now today, that has arrived and the judge signed off on the deal. So, not only does the council drop its disciplinary case, Vicky Paladino will withdraw her First Amendment lawsuit, Paladino also agreed to delete three social media posts and remove the title of councilwoman from her personal social media account that she keeps separate from her official council account. Also, both sides released statements that were included in the court document settlement itself. Vicky Paladino's uh statement reads in part, "To be clear, my personal social media posts were not directed at any council member or staff.

[00:22:02]I am responsible for the content. I never intended to make council members or staff feel unwelcomed or unsafe in their work environment. I sent I send a heartfelt thank you to the court for facilitating this resolution." Then there was another statement from Sandra, a council woman from Queens who chairs the rules and ethics committee. in that statement in part reads, I believe the resolution strikes the right balance, council staff and the first amendment liberties of council members. I met with council member Paladino and told her that I did not approve of the contents of her tweets. And Errol, that is likely the last we'll hear because the deal also requires the parties to not make any additional statements on social media or to reporters. And that makes sense. I was at the committee on rules and ethics at the city council at 250 Broadway and I was the only reporter there. They went immediately into executive session, spent some time in private uh quarters, came back, Sandra on the chair said we resolved the matter, no further action taken and as the members left, I tried asking them was this about Vicky Paladino's case and they all snubbed me. So that that seems to be the reason why.

[00:23:09]>> Oh, sounds like no follow-up interview.

[00:23:11]Well, we'll keep trying. Anyhow, um, so look, the the issue of taking councilwoman off of her bio, that seemed to be really kind of the heart of it, which is to say, look, you can you can say whatever crazy stuff you want, but don't do it as an official representative of the city government.

[00:23:26]It >> it seems the city council that looked like it was headed for a loss. The judge seemed to be siding with Paladino and saying, "You really should come to a settlement." So that seemed to be one concession which is basically she has this personal social media account. Some of it is written by her son who is part of her political team and she has to remove the council woman from that. But obviously uh people on social media know she's of the city council and does have an official more uh let's say more professional council account. So from her main account, her personal account in which she does a lot of her political commentary or conservative commentary >> and there there was no apology in the sense of her saying that she was sorry for anything but she did pull down the tweets which I guess you know in some ways the action speaks louder than words.

[00:24:13]>> She pulled down three tweets. She also pulled down the one of the the tweets regarding the expulsion of Muslims from Western countries at the behest of Council Speaker Menon. And so this just goes on to the uh the fact that she is willing to take down tweets, but you're right, no apologies here.

[00:24:28]>> Okay, thanks very much, Dan. It is time now for a break. Coming up, are companies leaving the five burrows because of Mayor Mamdonny's business policies? We crunch the numbers and the answers may surprise you. We'll bring you a report in two minutes. Stay with us.

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[00:26:54]Welcome back to Inside City Hall. For weeks, there's been widespread speculation that major companies could leave New York because of Mayor Mom Donniey's business policies. New York One investigative reporter Courtney Gross crunched the numbers and found that big finance jobs are staying, at least for now. Good evening, Courtney.

[00:27:10]>> Even we obviously know that this is a huge part of New York City's industry, a huge part of New York City's economy, and we've been hearing these rumors, this speculation that these big companies were going to be leaving New York City and that there were a lot of angry billionaires out there. So, we decided to talk to the Department of Labor and take a look at the actual numbers.

[00:27:30]>> I'll first just start by saying that I want all New Yorkers to succeed.

[00:27:35]>> The mayor was responding to some billionaire angst last week.

[00:27:39]>> And that also includes Ken Griffin, who is a major employer in our city. That does not negate the fact, however, that our tax system is fundamentally broken.

[00:27:49]continued fallout from a viral video where the mayor applauds the taxing of expensive second homes in the five buraus.

[00:27:58]>> We will add far more jobs in Miami over the next decade as an immediate and direct consequence of the mayor's poor decision here with respect to his his posting of that video. And it's resulted in at least one company, the hedge fund Citadel, to say it will be expanding elsewhere. For weeks since the mayor took office, critics have charged that the wealthy and elite will take their business to friendlier climates.

[00:28:24]>> The tax environment and the rhetoric are very concerning and those do push people to look elsewhere.

[00:28:30]>> JP Morgan Chase, while still headquartered here, now employs more people in Texas than in New York City.

[00:28:36]Reports say private equity firm Apollo Global Management will open a second headquarters in the south. But does this really mean that New York City is losing jobs. New York 1 crunched the numbers.

[00:28:48]In total, according to the state labor department, private sector employment dipped slightly last March in the five buraus, but some economists attribute that small drop to a reortionment of health care jobs from the city to upstate. Not a severe dip in employment.

[00:29:04]We haven't really seen any any decline in the finance sector. In fact, securities employment in New York City is at an all-time high.

[00:29:15]>> Jobs in the finance and insurance industry, according to the state, have remained steady. In 2025, they grew by nearly 3%. Some tech job categories grew by a similar margin in 2025, although some more recent data shows them dipping slightly. Despite these um these claims that businesses are relocating, the number it just hasn't shown up in the numbers.

[00:29:39]>> Notices filed with the state show several big companies have done layoffs in the first months of this year. City Bank has cut 265 employees at its Greenwich Street headquarters, which is a tiny fraction of the workers there and not tied to Mumani's actions. Amazon shrank its workforce at its New York City office by 135 according to the state. That too, a source says, wasn't related to Mdani. So impact so far is minimal, at least by the numbers, although critics will say it's just the beginning.

[00:30:11]>> So it takes a lot to push these people out. That's the truth. Um, but there is a trip wire at some point. And and I think that we are getting closer to a place where people say, is it worth me investing here when other people want me to be there more?

[00:30:30]And the Partnership for New York City just issued a new report today talking about if there's a continued anti-b businessiness climate here in the five burrows and thousands of jobs could be lost and thousands of jobs are at stake, Carol, which is the same narrative we have been hearing for many months now and also the same narrative we heard under the Delasio administration.

[00:30:48]>> Well, also I mean look, when they say climate, they're not talking about any specific policy, right? I mean, >> they're talking about the tax the rich policies. They're talking about taxing millionaires or corporations. and to a certain extent I want to say the tax on second homes but not nearly as much as the original rhetoric during the Mundan campaign about taxing corporations in >> I mean some of the other numbers we've seen recently um the S&P 500 hit an all-time high today uh crime is at the lowest numbers they've ever recorded >> um you know other than wanting you know a cup of warm cocoa and a back rub from the mayor you know are are they really talking about changing anything >> what I was trying to figure out is whether or not these companies, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Citadel, places that are moving more jobs outside of New York City or I should say expanding jobs outside of New York City because it's not necessarily they're taking jobs from Park Avenue and and replacing them and putting them in Miami, it's just instead of adding the jobs in New York City, you're adding them in Miami. But it's really hard to quantify that number. How many jobs are we missing out because people are just deciding they want to move elsewhere? And this was a something that we really started seeing during the pandemic because people left New York City. They wanted to move somewhere else. People were working more remote.

[00:32:04]They wanted a warmer climate maybe. I mean, Texas, you know, can sound really nice when we're experiencing 0 degrees here in New York City. And even the JP Morgan Chase issue I was examining, they started expanding in Texas back in 2018, which was during the Delasio years. So, this has really been something that this out migration has been going on for many years. So it's not necessarily, you can't attribute it necessarily right now, at least for now, to Mum Donnie, >> right? I mean, well, these are publicly traded companies in a lot of cases. They have shareholders to answer to. They have billions and hundreds of billions of dollars at stake. It is not well, it seems to me highly unlikely that they're going to turn around and turn tell stakeholders, I didn't like the video that the mayor put out, so we're going to, you know, make major changes in our multi-year strategy that we told you about in the in the prior quarter.

[00:32:50]>> Yeah. A lot of this is drama. And when you hear that interview with the CEO of Citadel there, they are planning to build a new headquarters along with Vornnado on Park Avenue. They've been talking about the super skyscraper for many years. And as of now, they said, "Well, maybe we'll reconsider it." And then the next question in the CNBC interview is, "Well, are you actually reconsidering it?" And he said, "Probably not.

[00:33:10]>> Probably not. It's a $6 billion headquarters. They're not making those kind of decisions based on a video." Uh, thanks very much, Courtney. It is time now for a break. Coming up, with the balance of power at stake, House Democrats are pushing back against the nationwide gerrymandering by Republicans. We'll bring you a report from Washington, DC in 2 minutes. Stay with us.

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[00:36:12]Hey, good evening to you, Arrol. This letter comes on the heels of a Friday Virginia Supreme Court ruling that shot down a voter-approved plan to redraw the state's congressional maps in a way that would have likely netted Democrats four new seats. Democrats just filed an emergency appeal asking the US Supreme Court to reinstate that map. And about a week prior to that Virginia ruling, the Supreme Court gutted a key provision of the Voting Rights Act, which gives Republicans a green light to carve up majority minority districts in the South. Uh this is something you've written about, Arrol at Great Le, that would dilute the voting power of minorities. Uh we actually likely just saw within the past few hours some headway on that in Alabama. Now, despite these setbacks, in his letter, Jeff writes that Republicans will not be able to gerrymander their way back into power. Now, he points to a few things.

[00:37:02]So, first the numbers. Right now, Republicans hold a razor thin three seat majority in the House, which he notes is the narrowest margin of any party since 1930. In the president's first midterm election in 2018, Democrats flipped 40 seats. Uh that's been referred to as the suburban revolt. Uh and he points to current public sentiment surrounding the president's agenda as evidence that such an upset is possible. Once again, polling shows Americans are increasingly disenchanted with the state of the economy and largely unsupportive of the president's war in Iran. Jeffrey districting efforts in a number of blue states that of course includes New York that are ongoing and says this Thursday he's going to hold a caucuswide briefing co-led by fellow New York Democrat Joe Morelli to discuss steps he says the group is taking to advance what he's calling the largest voter protection effort in modern American history.

[00:37:58]Arrol. Well, um, Shannon, it turns out that even though lines are are redrawn, um, Democrats aren't necessarily going to lose these new districts, right? I mean, is that part of uh the analysis from Hakeim Jeff?

[00:38:14]>> I mean, that's his argument. He says that if you look at the way the president is pulling right now, if you look at his agenda and how the American people feel about it, um he believes that the agenda, the counter agenda uh that Democrats are presenting will be enough to earn them those votes.

[00:38:30]>> And and did he in the letter refer to any specific policies that Democrats are going to be championing? We often look at the sort of the gamesmanship and um past votes and alliances with Donald Trump, but in the end, people are supposed to be campaigning based on the idea that they're going to pass some laws and make life better for their constituents.

[00:38:52]>> Errol, I'd have to double check the letter, but to my knowledge, he didn't expand beyond just focusing on the cost of living crisis, affordability issues, and the war in Iran.

[00:39:01]>> Okay, thanks very much, Shannon. We're going to take a short break now. When we come back, I'll talk more about the mayor's upcoming executive budget proposal with two top consultants. Stay with us.

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[00:41:24]Welcome back to Inside City Hall. As we mentioned earlier, Mayor Mdani is expected to present his executive budget proposal tomorrow. But if Governor Hokll is right and state negotiations are essentially completed without a major income tax increase for the on the rich, is the mayor's bluff being called?

[00:41:40]Joining me now to talk about that and much more, the members of this week's consultant corner. We have Democratic consultants Tara Martin and John Tomlin.

[00:41:48]Thank you both for being here. So, uh, do you expect to see a last minute rabbit out of the hat or are we going to see a bunch of budget cuts? What's the mayor going to do tomorrow, would you say? I I think that the mayor is going to present a budget um that is essentially um contingent on action by the state. I think he's going to be very clear about if this then this, if this, then this. Um and so will there be a property tax increase? Uh I I I don't know. I doubt that he's going to go out there and announce this big property tax increase given how it was received when he first announced it. Um but I do think that there will be um you know some equivocating, right? Um and uh because a lot of it really does depend on what they decide on at the state level.

[00:42:33]>> Yeah. Tough budget cuts are also a possibility as well, right?

[00:42:36]>> Well, I mean the mayor's already called for agency reductions in terms of uh u non-essential services that can be um handled in term I think it's like 1.7 billion dollars in savings he's looking for. But I think it's important to also acknowledge that, you know, he I think the mayor when he talked about the property tax hike, first of all, I just don't see it happening. I I don't see when he announced it initially, there was a huge backlash even from some of his supporters in the council that said non-starter. However, I don't think it was really about a property tax hike. I think it was about pushing the governor to do something on taxing the rich. And I think without that conversation, I don't think we'd be talking about a peditary tax today. Yeah. And so there's that aspect to it. And but also acknowledging that Albany still hasn't even come up with the details about what the peditary tax is actually going to be. So it's for the mayor, I think it was the right thing for him to do to push the roll out of the executive budget to tomorrow. But as we're seeing right now, there is no budget happening this week. Maybe next week, I don't know. But I think tomorrow we are going to have to see something because ultimately um it is the mayor's responsibility to present a balanced budget and now becomes the delicate dance between him and the council um on revenue. But how do you have that conversation without figuring out what the overall package is going to be from Albany?

[00:43:55]>> Right. Right. Right. I mean you cannot put a bunch of TBDs, you know, to be determined in the budget. There's got to be a number there.

[00:44:01]>> Exactly. Right. And it all depends on the state. Right. the state has to finalize, you know, what kind of uh foundation aid uh will they be giving to the schools. There's convers there's there's conversation about um you know, amending that formula. What kind of uh it's called AIM funding, right, which is aid to municipalities. You know, they're talking about a big increase to New York City and then balance that with the Peter tax. The details just aren't there. We just don't know what that is.

[00:44:26]>> Yeah. Um let's move on to the rent guidelines board. Another mom Donnie issue. The board is holding hearings and gathering data about the cost of rent subsidized rent stabilized housing. To the surprise of no one, the found the board found that costs are going up, especially when fuel is concerned. The preliminary vote last week, the rent guidelines board voted for 0 to 2% increases on one-year leases, 0 to 4% increase on two-year leases, but they're also finding that the overall cost of fuel heated buildings has increased by more than 5%. Uh, is a rent increase inevitable? And if so, what does that do to the mayor's credibility on that very important campaign promise?

[00:45:02]>> I think the mayor stood 10 toes down during this campaign cycle about a rent freeze. There is no turning back on that position from him. However, will they will the landlords and the uh small property owners just allow this to be rolled? No, they're not going to be rolled over. They're going to fight. and understanding what the timeline is in terms of all of this happening. You know, they are going to be doing some public hearings, I think, in the Bronx and also in Brooklyn. They have until June to ultimately vote on this. There's going to be a lot of spending um on both sides of the fence because the mayor's um army is still out there and the DSA has decided that this is going to be a major issue for them and they're or they've already been actively organizing. They all showed up ma in mass to the rent guidelines board um the other night. they are going to continue to be in individuals. So, this is going to be a really interesting fight to watch.

[00:45:52]>> Tara, I completely agree with you. This is not something that I can see him um just rolling over on, right? I mean, he he ran on a rent freeze. He's going to deliver a rent freeze. As far, you know, he has been clear uh as far as I have seen that he intends to uh provide some assistance to the small property owners, the small landlords. Uh but I think you know when you when you put yourself in his shoes and prioritizing the things that he prioritizes he you know the the landlords are struggling the tenants are struggling. Um right and so in in his mind a rent increase to benefit the landlords just does so uh on the backs of tenants. Um and that's just not a um that that's not something that he can accept.

[00:46:35]>> Well it'll be it'll be interesting to see what the rent guidelines board does, right? is they're legally obligated to take into account to do the study that they've begun to find out to the surprise of no one that the war in Iran and some other factors have made the cost of running a building go up um measurably.

[00:46:51]>> But Errol, let's be clear, the mayor appointed six out of the nine members of the guidelines board, including the chair. Okay. The fact that we're even having this conversation, right, knowing that the vote that they took was not a guarantee towards the future of what they're going to do, but to even get to this point is historic, right? So, it sends a very clear signal to the activist community that a a rent freeze is absolutely on the table and that the mayor has the muscle to get it done. So that's why we're really going to see what is the opposition, the landlords, the small property owners, how are they going to counteract the fact that their numbers on the board are not there.

[00:47:30]That's right. So ultimately, it's going to be math >> that's going to determine how this is going to work.

[00:47:35]>> Yeah, I can see that going to court if uh I'm sure it could. If the rent guidelines board says uh you know, fuel costs have gone up by historic percentages due to the war in Iran and some other factors and we know it's gone up 5%. You'll have to eat all of it. all of you landlords. I I can't quite see them doing it, but if they do, I I' I'd you know, I'd anticipate a lawsuit.

[00:47:56]>> But I think this is what Mani is talking about when he talks about the balance of power, right? Is the balance of power with the landlords who have the money to fight this in court or is the balance of power with the tenants? And Manny appointed a board that he believes will put that balance in favor of the tenants and and so let's see what happens.

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[00:50:33]>> We are back inside city hall and I'm once again joined by my consultants corner. Two Democratic consultants this week, Tara Martin and John Tomlin. So, city council woman um uh Vicky Paladino has settled her lawsuit against her fellow members of the council. It includes her removing the words councilwoman from her social media bio and clarifying that she did and pulling the tweets down, the offensive ones, and clarifying she did not mean to make any council members or staff feel unsafe in their work environment. Does that resolve the issue or should we expect more rants from her in the future?

[00:51:03]>> More rants, more heavier, more profane.

[00:51:07]I think this her settling means nothing.

[00:51:10]um this has been consistent um behavior that we have seen from the council member since her coming into city hall.

[00:51:18]But I think it's also important to understand that she's not doing this in a vacuum, right? There is she's an advocate for a constituency in her district and other places that are cheering her on. And you know, it's unfortunate because at the end of the day, your job to be an elected official and to is to legislate and to advocate and to deliver services back into your district. this um these tyresides are just a distraction and I think ultimately, you know, I I think the council did the best that they could do to hold her accountable, but she is, you know, we've seen this behavior before, we're going to see it again. And um you know, if she's content in being, you know, the Marjorie Taylor Green of the city council, then, you know, so be it.

[00:52:00]>> Well, and I listen, that's exactly the comparison I wanted to make, right? this kind of behavior and this kind of hatred um has been you know normalized by people like Marjorie Taylor in Congress who you know seem to get all this attention um by being as you know as terrible as they can be and that's the point right and so uh you know I'm glad that there uh will you know will be repercussions for her but I don't think the behavior will change because the uh incentive structure that exists for a Republican politician ition like this um only encourages it.

[00:52:36]>> Yeah. And it's not an accident, I think, that it ended up on social media because social media encourages uh you know and and divisiveness to keep kind of keep people clicking.

[00:52:46]>> The biggest thing that I would say that's a takeaway that we should all kind of really focus on is acknowledging that we are at a place in our politics right now where we have politicians that are feeding into a mob mentality and as you kind of stoke those flames, you can't control that fire. And that's when people get hurt. And as someone who worked in the city council in 2003 when former council member James Davis was shot and killed in the chamber, you know, we understand how political rhetoric can become very violent very fast. And you know, I just and what we're seeing around the country with elected officials being killed, being harmed, you know, just for standing up and saying certain things out loud. You know, I think I would hope that there's a point where the council member is self-reflective to realize that you have a responsibility and that, God forbid, if there is something that she said that inflames people even further and someone takes that act out on city hall again, that there is direct connection to that and she has a responsibility for that type of >> violence. Yeah, it is it is interesting that part of the settlement was take the words councilwoman off your bio. You're not doing this in the name of anything resembling New York City government. If you want to scream out the window into the night, that's on you. Um, I want to talk a little bit about the midterms because in New York 10, Governor Hokll was out campaigning today with Dan Goldman. Dan Goldman, of course, getting the DC37 um always coveted endorsement of the the largest municipal union here.

[00:54:12]Uh, how do you assess that race? How how are things going? Um well, look, I I'm a bit surprised at the um that Governor Hokll would get into this race. Um because essentially what it sets up is this proxy fight between her and Mayor Mumdani, which I'm not sure benefits her. Um with that said, you know, there's probably many political reasons why she did that. Um how do I assess the race? Um look, I I think that um you know, Lander is a uh a strong contender here. I think the issue of um Israel and Palestine is is that main serious wedge issue uh that's really being tested um in this race and so many other races um across the city and across the state.

[00:54:55]>> And know it's interesting I we what I keep coming back to and I asked both of them this individually. It's like what are the real differences? You guys have done a bunch of press conferences together. I can't find a dime's worth of difference on most issues, but um perhaps that very fact is what enables that issue of Israel and Palestine to really have a lot more meaning because everything else >> That's right.

[00:55:16]>> is pretty much pretty much the same.

[00:55:17]>> I mean, when whether you're looking at this particular race or you're looking at the uh Nadler seat as well, the constituency in both of these seats are very educated. They're very organized and they are looking for someone who is going to be the next big Trump fighter.

[00:55:35]And so you're right, there isn't a lot of daylight on policy between either of these gentlemen. However, you know, the one big difference is one person is hoping to galvanize a progressive machine helped catapult the mayor into office and the other person had literally got the seat by spending his own money and is planning on doing it again in this cycle even more so. So, ultimately, it's going to be, you know, money versus might. And, you know, it's going to be interesting to see what happens um, you know, in the next, you know, few weeks in the streets of Park Slope and beyond. Um because I think ultimately these people are organized, they're educated, and they're looking for a new fighter, but they're looking for authenticity. And I think that's really the the the thing that's going to be the driver >> is and and you know, understanding that this might be an exception. Don't you normally tell your clients, look, national issues are important. National issues are fine. National issues might even get people into the voting booth, but the substance of what you're campaigning on really needs to be nitty-gritty blocktoblock. you know, get the stop sign, get the school fixed, get the roads paid, and all that.

[00:56:40]>> Yes, absolutely. All politics is local.

[00:56:42]You need to have those local deep roots, and you need to deliver for your voters and for your constituents. Um, but what I would say is more than anything in a primary, the thing that you need to do is differentiate yourself from your primary opponent. And you know, the ad, >> but you also have to know how to identify your voters early. That's right. And then turn them out.

[00:57:00]>> The money's been raised and the ads are a coming. Yes.

[00:57:04]>> We shall see. Tara Martin, great talking with you. John Tomlin, thanks for coming in. That is going to do it for tonight's show. Thanks for watching and have a great evening. We'll see you next time inside City Hall.

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