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That was a nice talking with the lady.
We are in Santa Monica today. Always say that we will break the spiritual bondage and we did today and I believe the Holy Spirit will lead her and brother and sister please pray for her and if you like my work what I'm doing like my video and share it. That's the only way we can reach a lot of people. Thank you.
God bless you guys.
Why are you a Muslim?
>> Yeah, you you want to answer one of those question. So you are a good Muslim. All right. So you want to be pick up one of the >> answer. What >> one of the one of the just Huh?
>> What you going to give me at the end?
>> Let's see if you know the answer.
>> The right collection. The right answer.
Yeah, >> I gave maybe I gave you a wrong accent.
>> Yeah, let's go to the >> Why are you a Muslim? I was born Muslim.
>> Yeah, that's fine. But my question is how can you born Muslim?
>> My my parents were Muslim.
>> No, no, no. I know you you born in the Muslim family.
>> Yes.
>> But how can you are a Muslim? That's my question. Born when you born, >> you cannot be like everybody born human.
All right.
>> Yeah, I was born human.
>> Yeah. So that's right.
>> But my family was Muslim.
>> Yeah. But you born in the family raised as a Muslim.
Then I I read >> what what the Muslim mean to you?
>> Huh?
>> What does the Muslim mean to you?
>> What the Muslim? Believing in one God.
>> Okay. So when you will when you knew that your believer you will start believing one God. When >> when I reached the age about thinking.
>> Yeah. When is that?
>> When I was a child after I I grew up.
>> Yeah. When I said when >> at what time?
>> Yeah. When what is not exactly 11?
>> 11. All right. So like I said, nobody born Muslim. You born in a Muslim family?
>> I was born in a Muslim.
>> Yeah, that's why you can say but if you say that uh why are you Muslim? I I born Muslim. No, you cannot.
>> Yeah, that's okay. That's fine. This is not a problem. Okay, that that's a right answer which you're saying. So, but we born but what what you make you a Muslim? Now the question is that from out of that what you make you Muslim?
>> I believe.
>> Okay, that's that's a very >> I believe in the beliefs of beautiful >> of the Muslims.
>> Sure. I >> I believe that there is one God.
>> Okay. And uh I believe that is running is ruling our life.
>> Sure.
>> And sometimes when I have a problem and I try hard >> something happened to me and my problem is solved.
>> Beautiful. Beautiful. So what what when you pray to god Allah Allah right? Not God Allah.
>> So but Allah say in the Quran he does not speak to human.
>> He doesn't what?
>> Speak to humans. He does not talk to humans.
>> No, but he listen.
>> But but God say that he did not speak to humans.
>> He can How can he speak to all these humans?
>> No, no. I'm talking about the Quran. I'm not talking about other people.
>> The Quran revealed the Quran to the prophet. Okay. And the prophet is >> how how he revealed the Quran to prophet.
>> He sent an angel to the prophet which is Gabriel.
>> Mhm.
>> And he was telling to him the Quran.
Sure.
>> During certain times it didn't come in >> 20 years. Yeah.
>> An hour took time.
>> But where are you going to find out if Jabriel speak to Muhammad?
>> Who told you that?
>> Muhammad.
>> The Quran.
>> Quran say that. Okay. So, let's go to show me one ayah in here.
>> We'll continue to talk to my friend here.
>> All right. So, were you going to show me one ayah? Jabriel speak to Muhammad.
Show me one ayah.
>> I don't I don't know all the Quran. But you're saying sister, you're saying that to me.
>> Yeah, but what was told and what we >> That was told to you.
>> Maybe it's in the Quran. I have to check my >> Please do that because see what happened. If you telling me that, >> I think you're lying to me.
>> No, >> no, no. Because see, look, I'm telling you I'm a very rich guy, but you find out I'm not a rich. So what happened? I lied to you. That's right. I claim something and I did not prove you anything. So same thing you claiming something and you're saying that Jabriel speak to Muhammad but I'm telling you Jabriel never speak to Muhammad. So you're lying to me without without your knowledge.
>> I'm sure it's it's in in one of this.
>> That's what I'm telling you. Show me show me >> which one I I don't know.
>> Can you Google it? Can you Google or can you ask somebody? Yeah, please do that.
Yeah, because see the way you have a confidence you know I just want to know that why you saying that to you to me Gabriel speak to Muhammad or Jabriel give a Quran to Muhammad but Yes, >> sure. Tell me this number.
Yeah, tell tell me the tell me the chapter bakra. Surah bakra and 97 97.
Surah bakra 97. Okay.
>> Surah bakra 97. So you tell me where's angel and where's Muhammad? Right.
>> Okay.
>> Uh surah bakra 97. Yeah. 97. Yeah, I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.
Just uh surah bakar 97. Yeah. Here you go. So tell me where where is Muhammad and where is Angelia, please?
>> Okay. This is 97. Yeah.
Okay. What's that? Where's Muhammad and where's Gabriel talking to him?
>> K means saying Okay. Yeah. Huh? Sorry.
>> Co is K is Muhammad.
>> This is Gabriel.
>> No, no, no. K is Muhammad.
>> Is Muhammad.
>> Yeah.
>> So Muhammad saying that.
>> Yeah.
>> So this this this word this Quran word is Muhammad is No, sister. Hold on. Hold on. Where's Where's Muhammad?
>> You can translate it.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Here. Translate. Yeah. He say, "Where's Muhammad and where's Muhammad?"
>> Say, "Whoever is in any brief down in the heart by Allah with a confirmation of what went before and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe."
>> I know. But where's Muhammad and where's Jabriel talking to him? This is saying something. It's saying whoever is the enemy of that >> in another one.
>> Show me other one.
>> But this is not here. Huh? So he's not here like like I if I'm going to show you something like you know here if I'm going to use something here he say read can for me can you read that for me >> this is for MS no read that what he's saying so Moses is there Allah is there talking to so we have clear right can you show me similar ayah like that Jabriel is talking to Muhammad like that.
>> Yeah. But what what what do you want to prove?
>> No, no, no. I don't you don't >> I'm just discussing you here to prove what that >> I'm teaching Quran. The people like you, they just believe it but they never understand the Quran.
>> Oh, so you are here to prove that Christian is uh what is better the Islam?
>> No, no, no. I'm not here. I am talking to here Quran. So you believe that angel >> You have a cross here?
>> Yeah. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I'm Christian. I am a Christian.
>> You a Christian?
>> Yeah. So I'm teaching Quran.
>> You are a Christian?
>> Yes, I teach I teach Quran. Yes.
>> And you teach Quran?
>> Yes.
>> Something wrong?
>> Yeah.
>> Muhammad wasn't Muslim when he was doing the Quran. So he became Muslim later on after he Okay. So what's wrong with that? If I'm teaching something to you because you telling me something Muhammad speak to Jabriel or Jabriel speak to Muhammad. But that's not true.
>> It doesn't look strange. If you don't believe that Muhammad uh uh is the one who uh bring the Quran or taught us the Quran, >> that's your belief >> or wrote or we wrote the Quran through him.
>> No, that's why that's why I'm here to talk to you. But you're not showing me one ayah. You earlier you say that Jabriel give a revelation to Muhammad, right? But you're not showing me any.
>> If if you are Christian does mean you believe in Jesus. Yes.
>> And you believe on the church?
>> I believe in Jesus only, not the church.
>> Not the church.
>> Yeah.
>> But you believe that Jesus is the son of God.
>> Quran saying that, not me.
>> Quran didn't say more in a word. Show me >> that. If I show you what happened.
>> I want to see that the Quran said that.
>> But my question, my question, >> the Quran, the Quran is saying that Allah Allah has never had a child.
>> We will go for that's a contradict. The contradiction. questions here.
>> So you're not showing me anything with the No, >> you are not showing me the ayah I will I will >> Jesus is the son of God.
>> Sister I'll do it. I'll do it. But the question that you not you not give me anything to speak to Muhammad. That's right. You don't have anything.
>> No, I'm sure there is.
>> Sure.
>> I'm here in the in the in the Quran.
>> You already tried.
>> There's a lot of of ayah saying that God is talking to Muhammad and said Muhammad. I mean one you say a lot of things still you're lying to me right now.
>> No I'm not lying.
>> No because you're saying that and you're not proving me. So I will think that you are lying.
>> If you prove me that then I will prove me wrong then I'll say yes you are right and I'm liar.
>> So show me one ayah.
>> So >> and then I will show you >> if I if I'm going to Google I'm going to get you this.
>> Sure.
>> But the only thing I'm I'm not believing in or I don't trust you because you said I I am Christian. So how come you are a Christian and you teach something you don't believe on it?
>> Okay, my question is I'm I'm I'm Pakistani, right? So if I go and cook a Chinese food, something wrong with that?
>> No.
>> So I'm teaching >> this food.
>> So what is that? That's a spiritual food. This is a spiritual food spirit.
>> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So I'm teaching spiritual food.
>> By the way, if you are Pakistani, 90% of Pakistanis people I know they are Muslims.
>> Yes, but I'm not. Okay, that's a question regard regardless of this not I'm talking about. But you show me one ayah where I I'll show you then I will show you that before you leave. I'll show you Quran talk about the Isa is the son of God. But anyway, first you show me one ayah where say that Jabriel speak to Muhammad.
>> I'll show you.
>> You do not you say >> I'll show you but you don't you don't want to believe that this is >> Why should I believe it? Okay. Why should I believe you?
>> You want you want the name Muhammad and Gibl.
>> No. Did you say that or no? Do you say that Jab speak to Muhammad? That's right. Did you say that? I I I show it to you.
>> No. Did you say that?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. So, I want to see just like I give you example. Moses was talking to Allah.
Show me one ayah like that. And you said, okay, let me show you. But you couldn't find it.
>> No, I just I had to answer one of the my message. Uh >> I don't know. What's your name?
>> My name is Tony.
>> Huh? Tony.
>> Tony.
>> Yeah.
>> Tony. Uh, >> you are here by yourself. It's your >> Yeah, that's my Yeah, >> this is you.
>> Yeah, I'm a businessman. I authentic somebody.
>> I'm I teaching Islam here. Quran.
>> It's funny, huh? It's very Quran is funny. Islam is funny. You're right.
Yeah. I don't have a problem.
>> No, Islam is not funny >> because you're not able to show me one >> to me is funny. See, I believe that you are probably over 60 or I I don't want to judge you that I'm over 60. Yeah. So, but my I'm over 70.
>> But okay. So, my question is that you've been a spiritual bondage which is saying that Allah Muhammad talked to a Jabriel or Jabriel speak to but that's not true.
>> That's not true. And you pushing this one to your kids or >> Yeah, it's okay. Who Who wrote the Quran?
>> We don't know who wrote the Quran. Who wrote the Quran? believe I but I believe that there is one God and I believe that I I cannot believe that there is God has a son because if he has a son >> I will show you I will I will tell you I will I will no yeah that's that's why you're not going to understand God because >> I have to can you tell me >> yeah I'll tell you you can ask for said Allah said I I ask you that you ask for your Quran why Allah did that one here okay why Allah bring issa here okay read this one here you can read in Arabic Read that for me. Yeah.
Can you read loud? So you want to read loud?
>> Yeah.
He said that he made her son. He said not our son.
>> Who made our son?
>> No. No. Who made?
>> Who made?
Who made it?
>> You say that >> Allah made it gave her uh like um I don't know how to translate it in English.
>> Yeah, we have English here. You can read that here. But the question is that who made it?
>> For her from our spirit.
>> Yeah. So who made it?
>> And we made her. No, it's not we. He didn't said we. This is wrong.
>> Okay. What's up?
>> I'm sorry. This is I I go ahead. Okay.
Okay. What?
>> He didn't said we made her. He said >> Okay. Okay. Yeah, you read that you earlier you said that we he made it.
>> And we made her and her son.
>> Yeah. Yeah. But who made it?
>> Her son.
>> Who made it?
>> We made her.
>> Who? You. You said me.
>> That made it.
>> Her her what? A sign. A sign.
>> No. No. No.
>> But he didn't. He said I made her pregnant. I made her I made >> Who made the pregnant then?
>> He didn't say this. He made We made >> No, no, no. You saying that. So how she got the pregnant? How how he got the pregnant man? through the man.
How he get pregnant? How she got pregnant?
>> It's God said it's done. It's done. It's God.
>> Yeah. But he said you saying just so Allah made a pregnant to her.
>> He he just gave his fault. Be pregnant >> sister. If you somebody rape you. All right. And you got pregnant whose fault is going to be?
>> I'm sorry. I can I hear you?
>> I am a human.
>> No no no.
>> And the other person a human. No. That is not a human.
>> No, no, no. We not talk. We kind of talk about that one too.
>> No, we talk about is not a human.
>> No, no, no. We talk about the god Allah is human too. But like we're going to talk about we're going to change the topic. We're going to be we're going to change the topic. My question to to to try to convince Muslim that the Quran is not by Muhammad, >> not from Muhammad, not from God.
>> Okay. From whom?
>> That's why we're asking who the where the Quran come from? Anyhow whatever is coming from whom I believe in what the Quran >> sister you believe whatever you want to believe I have a no problem people they don't believe God exist okay people they believe different stone is a god >> I tell you something for you >> tell me >> why don't you try to to change the people who people act who doesn't have any religion >> I love Muslim people I don't want you to go to the hell >> you're going to go to the hell because of following Quran you're going to end it to the hell >> really Yes. And that's why I'm here. I love Muslims because they come from >> the people who are not Muslim or Christian who doesn't believe in Allah.
>> Sister, I cannot go everywhere.
>> Yes. I go to hell. I will go I'll not going to reach everybody. I'll try to reach my Muslim love. Good people.
They're very good people. I care about you and I'm trying to open >> Muslims will be Muslim.
>> That's why. Look, you're telling me you're going to go to the hell. Come with me. That's what you're telling me.
And and when I will not believe in Quran, I will not go to hell.
>> Of course, you Jesus is only one way.
There's no other way.
>> Yeah, you can laugh.
>> Jesus as a prophet. Who told you I don't believe in Jesus?
>> No. Okay. Listen for my question. My question Yes. Okay. Jesus is not a prophet only more than Okay, let me You speak Arabic. I'm going to show you. You said you Jesus only prophet, right? I'm going to show you one. Yeah. Okay. Let's go to show me that here. I know you are very knowledgeable. You speak Arabic. So just give me one this ayah here. How you going to explain that Jesus is not only spirit uh god spirit?
>> You have to speak with people who are have no more knowledge than me.
>> No, you have a knowledge.
>> I suggest No, no, no. I suggest something. You know there is a lot of you know nayak.
>> Okay. Go.
>> Do you know the nayak? Na is a >> he's a liar.
>> He's a liar.
>> Big liar.
>> Okay. But you can listen to him >> because why see what you doing wrong and you're forcing me to do that? I'm trying to tell you. I'm not forcing you. I'm telling you to stay away from these people. They are liars and a lot of people.
No, they're not. You can discuss this.
>> Lying and teaching something to I'm teaching here. I'm not lying to you. I'm opening your Quran. I'm not telling for myself. So now you tell me here. Read this one here. Surah. You can read Arabic. So all right. Now let's go.
the Allah word. All right. And then R.
>> Mariam. Okay. So now now now I have the title.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Hold on.
>> So okay. Okay. Listen. So Allah saying Quran saying that not Allah.
>> So Issa is a prophet. All right.
Messenger. And then he's saying he's a word of Allah. And then he's a spirit of Allah. So three title. Okay. It's not only one. All right. So now question is that when you come to the word is the kalmatula is eternal or is it created?
>> Eternal.
>> Eternal. All right. So now you have two eternal. Allah is eternal and kalma is eternal. So you are worshiping two Allah. Two god because Allah can be only eternal. That's right.
>> So now you have two eternal Allah and the word. So how many god you have?
>> One.
>> Oh. So two 1 one + two. Okay. So no, you said >> and Muhammad is a prophet of >> Okay, but that's not that's not that's not in the Quran. That's discussing with Okay. No, no, no. Listen, my question my question was brother are like you.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> They don't believe in the Quran and they don't >> I'm glad I'm glad they don't believe >> and they said he's a liar and Muhammad was I don't know.
>> Sister one thing.
>> What? No. No. Sister, my question.
>> I believe in one that I'm believing. I did hash. I did Omrah. Hud is not going to do anything.
>> Okay.
>> This is the idol. Those are Hindu used to be do it. Idols are sorry. Those >> I don't I don't hurt people. I don't >> that's not going to do any good. The people they are nice. Even Chinese are nice. Japanese are nice, you know. But that's not going to do any good.
>> No problem. But they don't believe >> has Okay. You believing some Okay, I ask you that. Okay. So, so you believe So, you believe Allah God. Okay. What form Allah is?
>> Now, we want to find out what form is Allah. I don't know. Nobody saw.
>> So now you see you woriing the god. You don't know.
>> Of course.
>> Oh my god. So what's the difference between those Japanese and Chinese? They don't know.
>> Listen to me. Listen, >> sister.
>> The person who had the who who made this guy and who made the scene and made us not and and that's not Allah. But I understand. But that's not Allah. That's not Allah.
>> Okay. It's not Allah. It's whatever he is.
>> Yeah. But you're not worshiping him. He already told you that you believe Allah and you do not know what form is he. So just like Hindu or just no sorry not Hindu Buddhist or Japanese or Chinese they have no idea about the god. So you are same there's no difference.
>> But I believe that it's just >> believing is not going to do any good.
>> They don't believe that there is heaven and there is hell.
>> Sister you not that has nothing. The person does not know or know that's not going to make any difference. But as long you want the salvation or go to the heaven that's only Jesus said that I am the way there's no other way. How can you going to Muhammad or going to the Allah that's not going to do any good.
>> Okay. And the same and who told you that you want to go to Jesus and he will take >> Bible say that >> Bible the Bible have been changed it many times and there is a lot of that's why but there is only one Quran oh my goodness I have a two Quran here I have a 37 Quran so which Quran you read see that's why >> all of them are the same >> okay so you think this is the same difference so this is the same Quran >> okay so tell me which Quran you read okay I'm going to read all >> no no no I'm going to >> it's not trans it's not >> it's Arabic it's Arabic not translate okay those are >> I'm not talking about translate but some question as I written wrong >> sorry >> who wrote this >> who wrote this we don't know who wrote the Quran >> no just a minute >> sister >> which uh which uh >> yeah here same thing same thing it's the same thing there's no different that's the same thing is okay now >> I need any okay okay so okay okay one >> okay okay let's go to make it now because he's zak is a liar he's telling you that. Okay. Read this one for me.
It's not identical. Read this one. Which one you read? Which is the number one ay? Ayah.
>> The fat.
>> This one.
>> No. Okay. Not I said not the chapter verse.
>> This one.
>> One. Where's the one here?
>> Yeah.
>> See it.
>> It's not a s. But anyway, this is one.
There's nothing one. Okay. Read this one and tell me which which one you recite.
Read this one, please.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Same. No, no, no. Here, read this one, too. Here, here, here, here. Okay. Okay. Go. Keep reading. Keep reading.
Yeah.
Okay. Okay. Sorry. No. No. Read the the third one here. No. No. Read the third here and four here. This is four and this is third here. So, read that one.
>> Sister is wrong.
>> I'm I'm sorry.
>> Is not an ayah.
>> Okay. But that's wrong. You saying?
>> Yeah. It's not an ay.
>> But which so that's why I said which Quran you reading it? You say the one Quran. So now you're saying this is wrong >> because this one it's the the it's always in all the ayats is but it's not counted as >> Yeah. But what I'm saying that this listen yeah >> the Quran is >> so this is wrong. Huh? But this is not one. You say that's one. But how can be one if it's wrong?
Okay, this is the right one.
>> This is the right one or this one right?
Which one is right one? The >> Okay, that's a translation of this one.
That's right.
>> This one and this one. Yeah.
>> This one is wrong because they This is number one.
>> No. No. Here number one. Not this one.
This is number one here.
>> Not this one. This is right.
>> Yeah.
>> So, this is wrong.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. So, but then you have a two Quran then.
>> Huh?
>> Then you have a two Quran. If one is wrong, one is right.
>> No Quran.
>> Just a I show you this one.
>> The person who did this made a mistake.
He didn't put the Quran in the >> Okay, guys. The person you try to prove something who is not doesn't have any sense. Quran does not make usuran. The Quran is not wrong because the world >> earlier you say only one Quran but I'm showing you two Quran Arabic Quran.
>> Yes listen I hope that God guide you that's all >> leave Islam sister now you are time you are time you are time to look we don't know when we going to leave but you are in the best Allah like you he going to guide you to the right >> Allah like me why Allah going to like you I don't believe Allah Allah Allah is a human >> you don't believe in Allah >> yeah no I don't Allah is not Christian and I am >> Allah is Allah Allah is the name he's not a god >> Allah is the name just like my friend has a name Allah or my name is Muhammad I'm going to beame Muhammad >> you are here to prove something I don't know what you want to do but I just want to tell you that if you are a believer then or if you talk to him maybe he >> talk to who >> you have no idea who you're talking to sister >> you have you know >> sister believing okay look >> you have to clean Please, please listen to me before you >> a clean.
>> I am a clean. Okay. But Jesus, Jesus, make me clean.
>> Find something useful to do because find something useful to >> That's not useful. I'm giving you that.
All right. That's a deception. You know, that's a you that's a very very strong not >> that's very stronghold by devil to your mind. You know, leave Islam.
>> Bad bad. Yeah, that's right. Committing sins.
>> Leave Islam, sister.
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