Kirkland deconstructs the "no snitching" myth as a romanticized trap that ignores the cold reality of the prisoner's dilemma. His argument correctly identifies that in a legal system designed to break collective loyalty, individual self-preservation is the only rational response to an unsustainable street code.
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TK Kirkland on “No Snitching” Code: You’re a Weak MF If You Go To Jail For Someone Else (Part 12)Added:
Well, the Pooh Shisty and Gucci Mane situation is actually going to trial in July.
>> Oh, so is it's it's going through.
>> It's going through.
>> For some reason, I thought it wasn't going to make it.
>> Everyone's still in jail. No bonds. And uh Damn.
We're going to see who turns cuz you're not going to tell me that all nine guys are going to stand firm and say that they don't know nothing. Like somebody is going to fold and cooperate.
>> We're going to see. Wow. For some reason, I didn't think it was going to happen, Vlad.
>> Well, I mean, there might be plea deals that are cut before it actually happens.
So, it may not happen.
>> Okay.
>> I don't know what Pushi is going to say with all those witnesses around and so forth, including Gucci actually making a statement and so forth.
>> So, you got the trial date.
>> Yeah, there's a trial date. Uh July something.
>> I will be one nervous man.
>> That's coming up. What is it? It's almost June. That's like in two months.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Man, I I don't get it. I I don't get it to to think with that many people to get away with something like this. I forgot who said was it you that said it or that they've never seen a group of black men get into a situation like this and nobody cooperates. You occasionally see it with like the the Hell's Angels. You occasionally see it with some mafia guys. All the mafia guys will will snitch also, right?
>> But you've never seen a group of nine black men >> that get into a situation, a criminal situation, and nobody cooperates.
Everyone stands firm.
>> And I'm going be real, my people may not like this. I have yet to see even amongst the Black Panther Party, nine black street dudes and nobody goes bad.
>> The Hell's Angels did it, but that's a different structure. And they had David Kenner on them. And you know what the Hell's Angels as an organization did?
Made sure they had the best attorneys, right? They took care of their families while they were in there.
>> You showed me a movement where it was a group of black individuals from the streets and nobody went bad.
All it takes is one.
>> I don't know. Do you see situations like this?
>> It's like I'm not I'm not trying to say that certain races are more prone. I'm just saying, have you ever seen this?
>> I wanted to digest what you were saying.
It's not worth going to prison for this. Like, what what what you're saying is like be honorable and not tell.
And in the in the culture, they they they quick to say, "Oh, that motherfucker's a snitch."
And I read a lot. You read a lot. Mhm.
>> Informers is the biggest paid [ __ ] is making so much money being informed and the person that screams at the loudest is the informant.
>> Mhm.
Save yourself, man. Like you shouldn't have did it. But if you got Here's the thing I talk about in my stand up from time to time.
If two people get in trouble and the detectives come in your room first, you better take the deal.
Yeah. Who was it? Little Woody said that when he went to the feds, he was told there's two kinds of people. People that told and people they wish they told.
>> You know what they told me? It's two type people in the feds.
I like it. They said the ones that talk and the ones they wish they talked.
When I heard that, I was like, "Well, damn."
So, right, if they come in your room first cuz you want to be honorable, you want to hold it down and they went in the next room, they said, "Okay, we don't need you." That person, you see that person go home and you still there? Ah, >> you know about the Fio trial?
>> No.
>> So, four people got convicted in Florida for killing Fio.
>> Okay.
>> They drove 2 hours to go kill him.
>> Damn.
>> They're all facing the death penalty, >> right? Cuz in Florida, especially premeditated to that extent, like you had two hours to change your mind.
>> Absolutely.
>> You had two hours to change your mind.
You took your mom's car to go do a murder and Ubered back.
>> Wow.
>> Right. Like like you're getting caught, right?
>> Yes. So, one of the guys was basically pleading on the stand to not get the death penalty and they had the warden speak for him and the warden said that this is a healthy young man and we could use him for manual labor for the rest of his life.
>> I see that.
>> And we shouldn't give him the death penalty because we could work him like a slave essentially.
>> Our labor.
>> Yes.
>> I saw that. I didn't know that was that's what it was connected to.
>> Yeah. Think about that before you get into your little rap beefs and so forth.
Think about that.
>> You lose either way.
>> You lose either way.
>> Well, because slavery actually is legal in America. Yes.
>> In the prisons.
>> Yes. And he said hard labor.
>> Hard labor.
>> Do you understand?
>> Not the kitchen.
>> Yeah. Not the kitchen. Hard. And the way these library these cos in them in them jails love being a um a pain in the ass. And you going to feel it, brother. And you young. See, people not getting what he said. He's young.
>> Yes.
>> They going to you going to work hard till you're 90 something years old for the rest of that's you you might just get killed. Oh, that's what the warrant said that that and with this with this program, he will not be eligible for any type of parole and he will die in his prison outfit. So, please don't give him the death penalty so we can work him until he's 100.
How crazy is that? And this kid is what, like in his early 20s?
>> Early 20s.
>> Come on, man.
>> I I have to leave this [ __ ] >> Come on, man. I had a choice >> over some words, over some videos, o over over some disc songs. Okay, so your family got hurt. I get it. But really, this guy is not threatening your life.
You just want to get revenge.
>> Y >> you're mad at some songs he made.
>> You know what type of [ __ ] people have said to me over the years? The most foul, disgusting things.
>> You know what's fascinating? how one [ __ ] excuse my language, is mad, but he convinced three other [ __ ] to be mad with him.
>> Yeah.
>> You know how weak the three other [ __ ] have to be.
>> Oh, and there's a girl involved, too.
>> And the [ __ ] excuse my language, >> who was pregnant at the time.
>> This [ __ ] did this. And you convinced four other people.
I'm mad at this [ __ ] I need y'all to come with me. And you psych them up to have the same feelings you have. and he don't even or she don't even know these other people. You got to be a ignorant person to allow someone else to convince you to risk your life.
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