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[00:00:00]very very critical getting down to the wire. Well, you know, let me just say this. David Um David and I met through my friend Scott Bennett. And I had helped get Scott out of prison over in Germany on trumped-up [ __ ] charges cuz he was exposing the fact that our own intelligence agencies were funding terrorist groups and through the banking system like that.

[00:00:29]And so while he was free and then he did stuff into Iran and into uh the Russian uh side of the Ukraine situation.

[00:00:45]And after Scott passed away and he had tried to put David and I together a couple of times before he passed and we never really got a chance to actually uh uh you know, do a mind meld and then in the aftermath of Scott's passing uh David and I had opportunity to work together on some stuff.

[00:01:06]And David you know, I I'd done so much of the financial stuff and Scott was doing the financial stuff.

[00:01:14]And in getting into with David uh comparing notes while through David's working on school bond stuff, I was looking at other stuff. And it just really the work that David has done is world-class. Uh and you've been at it what? David, you know, really at this point probably 11 or 12 years really?

[00:01:36]I mean, just all in.

[00:01:38]Yeah, all in would be since about uh August of 2016.

[00:01:46]That's when it you know, that's when the the whole thing started to fall fall apart.

[00:01:55]Well, I'll just add this for for people that aren't aware, you're a California attorney and had actually been uh working as an attorney um two school districts for quite a long time. And so, you're actually you know, sit on you know, as an advisor to school districts. So, this is not virgin territory. You've been at it for very long time and realized that there were some problems and then as you're going against the problems, they wanted to shut you down and send you away.

[00:02:28]Uh am I saying it right?

[00:02:30]That's correct.

[00:02:32]Yeah, I would say that's So, I mean, you you've got a history that goes to the moon. You're you've been you've been trying to do the right thing on this for a very long time. And then, the thing that just blew my mind, you had everything dialed in.

[00:02:47]You were ready to go to war and COVID started right as your cases were moving into the discovery phase to expose the frauds in the uh school bond stuff, which is so severe.

[00:03:00]Just school bond fraud all by itself is adequate it's it's easily on the low side 10 times worse than what happened in 2008 with the financial crisis that is so fresh in so many people's minds.

[00:03:16]Uh it's at least 10 times as bad depending on who you're talking to and and what part of the country and it's more like 100 times as bad and and uh could take the whole country down. And I think the plan has been to take us out right as we get into exposing the criminality in other areas of our government and this would just shut us down, distract us, we wouldn't move forward. So, anyway, uh yeah, you're doing amazing work uh and you'll be doing a presentation again at this um uh fraud fighter summit that uh I'm doing in uh, uh, uh, mid-June, 15th, 16th, 17th at the Ahern. So, uh, you're like a central piece in the whole uh, presentation.

[00:04:08]>> [laughter] >> Yeah, very good.

[00:04:11]And uh, yeah, we have that link for the Ahern event in the description box, guys. And >> [clears throat] >> Ron, you you are so hot on this stuff. I remember, you know, I had Shawn Taylor and we did a lot of shows together in the beginning and you picked him up and you moved into the next level. Uh, so he was exposing the mortgage fraud on a massive scale and now you're, you know, helping move the uh, the awareness to the uh, the school bond uh, fraud.

[00:04:37]So, >> Ron, before before we get to to David, you brought up Shawn Taylor. Let me just tell you, uh, Shawn Taylor, um, a warrior's warrior uh, out there in Tennessee.

[00:04:51]Um, they've gone after him legally in a bunch of venues um, because he's exposing the mortgage frauds and across the world, you know, across the country as a mechanism to fund um, a lot of this uh, mischief against the country, groups and things like that. What David's found is a mechanism where they're funding um, a lot of these um, political groups uh, you know, through various aspects of the school bond fraud. It's not just one thing. It's it's 20 things. They got they got more scams going. They can't even keep track of all the scams they got going within the bond fraud. But Shawn um, has been uh, right there, presented to attorney generals from a number of states. Nobody has refuted anything he's presented. And yet um, just uh, last week before Bonnie was was let go, um they uh pushed him to the curb again.

[00:05:57]And it was very frustrating. It's very frustrating for Shawn. I mean, he wears this on his sleeve. He's like David, he's just lived and breathed this uh for many, many, many years. And um so, he's very frustrated. However, um there's things that are happening even in the last few hours over at the Department of Justice that are turning the corner again on on new stuff.

[00:06:25]Um they're going after all these uh you know, persons and operations uh little fragile. In fact, here's how here's how wild it's gotten over at the Department of Justice.

[00:06:36]Today, um Todd Blanche announced and and had people at the Department >> [clears throat] >> announced that they're going after the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is a very left-leaning operation.

[00:06:52]And uh they're going after them for um creating false records and then um encouraging donations based on these false records um that were supposed to show how uh police officers and police departments were going against, you know, these protest groups. And uh that they were, you know, essentially creating false data and putting it out to people to get them to, you know, make donations. And so, now they're going to go after them, prosecute them for um essentially a type of racketeering where they were producing false histories and then promoting it to um do their political stuff. So, the tide's definitely turning over there since Bondi's left and Todd Blanche's audition to try and be the permanent attorney general.

[00:07:49]I don't know if he can go far enough, hard enough, fast enough to make that happen. Peter thinks he wants the job, too.

[00:08:01]So, David, let's I'm going to pull up that presentation.

[00:08:16]And and folks need to folks need to understand So, David and I cuz cuz I have a very bizarre schedule and it doesn't follow any pattern.

[00:08:28]Even like this morning, if they goes 3:00 in the morning, David, and he had something new he uncovered. You're You're at this 24/7 just like the rest of us.

[00:08:38]You know, middle of the night. And I just found this. Wait. Wait. Wait.

[00:08:42]You're not going to believe it. Hold on.

[00:08:44]>> [laughter] >> It's It's amazing. You're You're You're really in the thick of it, David.

[00:08:51]Yeah.

[00:08:53]So, uh >> [clears throat] >> What you have up is the official statement for the Blue Lake Union Elementary School District, which is up in Klamath County or I'm sorry, Humboldt County, California, up north, just south of Del Norte County.

[00:09:09]Um it's a It's one of 32 I think it's It's about 32 districts in Humboldt County. So, this is just a very small uh school district and it's an elementary school district. So, it has grade kindergarten through sixth grade.

[00:09:28]Uh it could have them up to eighth, but I'm just giving you the the basic background. So, this is Blue Lake Union >> just tell people how many school districts are there in California? You have what 50 4 or 58 counties, but how many school districts do you have in California?

[00:09:46]Yeah, there are 58 counties in California and approximately 940 different school districts. That includes elementary school districts, uh high school districts, and unified school districts, which are combination of both.

[00:10:03]So, there are 940 And you could have And every one of them has the ability to try and float bonds, get taxpayers locked up into them, and you can have overlapping districts and bonds and everything. It's just insane. Mhm.

[00:10:19]Yeah, so what's interesting about this it it Let me just kind of walk you through the basics.

[00:10:25]If you'll notice, it's a it's almost a $2 million issuance.

[00:10:30]Uh the second sentence >> [snorts] >> on the first paragraph, not the upper paragraph, but the under the date of delivery, it says, "The bonds were authorized at an election of registered voters of the district held on June 8, 2010, which authorized the issuance of $2 million principal amount of general obligation bonds for the purpose of funds financing the addition and modernization of school facilities."

[00:11:00]So, so [clears throat] this is one issuance, which has to be approved approved by voter. So, what happens is basically, a board of education gets together, produces a resolution, in that resolution, it proposes the measure that's going to add the $2 million to And then that measure is put on the ballot, and then the voters get an opportunity to vote on it. If it passes, it gives the school board the authority to issue bonds up to $2 million.

[00:11:39]For example, this is Blue Lake Union Elementary School District for $2 million.

[00:11:45]The same process holds true for Los Angeles Unified School District when it runs a $90 million bond or $9 billion bond.

[00:11:54]Or for for Long Beach Unified or for San Diego Unified, bonds can be usually like $1.5 million to up to $9 billion.

[00:12:07]So, this is a small district, but this is typical of some of the actions that have taken place in California.

[00:12:14]So, they're issuing a $2 million bond.

[00:12:16]On the next page, you see the maturity schedule.

[00:12:21]Do you have the maturity schedule available?

[00:12:23]Yes.

[00:12:25]Okay. So, you see here there are various components.

[00:12:29]You see there's 1,755,000 in current interest bonds. That's in the top section.

[00:12:38]And then the maturity schedule over the over the left from 2011 2014, '15, '16, then go over to the right and you see '17, '18, '19, and '20. So, there's about 130,000 of that 170 755 uh 1,755,000 that are current interest bonds.

[00:13:05]On top of that, you have 1,625,000 in term bonds due out in 2047.

[00:13:15]And so, that that So, the serial serial bonds are the ones from 2011 through 2020 and the term bonds are those and those are retreating interests and accruing value until August 1 of 2047.

[00:13:35]Now, underneath that, if you go back to the first page for a second, you'll see it's 19926440.

[00:13:51]Let's go back to the second page now.

[00:13:55]Here's the additional 24426440 in capital appreciation bonds.

[00:14:05]Now, these capital appreciation bonds are going to be issued um right after right after the official statement is published, the the capital appreciation bonds were issued.

[00:14:20]And they're issued from 2021 through 2040. You'll see that on the left of the the maturity dates, but some of them are coming they're going to be maturing. So, we basically know that the bonds are running and accruing interest for 10 years before they even start being before they even start maturing. The first one maturing in 2021.

[00:14:43]Now, if you look at the accretion rates, it starts at 4.39%.

[00:14:49]Goes to 4.66, 4.89, 5.12, 5.

[00:14:55]35, 5.7, and then suddenly jumps to 12%.

[00:15:00]Wow. Okay, that is a stunning increase.

[00:15:05]So, what happens is for a quarter million basically a quarter of a million dollars 244,000 the district has [laughter] to pay back over 1,820,000 20 years 30 years later.

[00:15:26]Because this this this bond is taking place. I forget the the data but it's around 2009 2010.

[00:15:34]And here it is coming due in 2040. The total amount would be 1 million 820,000, which is basically you're paying back the full amount that you borrowed at the beginning as a maturity value.

[00:15:54]Not counting all the other money that's been paid back under the current interest bonds and the term bonds.

[00:16:00]So so that means that the uh capital appreciation bonds are at a charge nearly seven times more than the initial amount.

[00:16:12]And this is going all on all over [clears throat] the state of California.

[00:16:19]So this is where the fraud is, where they're upping the uh the accretion rate. Uh cuz normally a bond holder is going to get a certain amount. Uh who's getting all this other money?

[00:16:31]Well, that's a good question. Who knows?

[00:16:34]I mean, this is this money there are principal parties to the transaction.

[00:16:40]There's the issuer, which is the school district itself. There's dis- district counsel who looks over the documents.

[00:16:48]There's also bond counsel. Let's look at let's [clears throat] see who the Go back to the first page. Let's look at the bond counsel.

[00:16:56]We'll see it is Uh one more uh one more up.

[00:17:05]Uh it is one Uh it doesn't That's strange. It doesn't have bond counsel in here.

[00:17:15]It says uh San Diego, California Bond Counsel.

[00:17:19]Yes, GCRLLP.

[00:17:21]Go to about the third or fourth page in.

[00:17:23]Do Do I send you the whole document? Oh, yeah.

[00:17:27]Okay.

[00:17:31]Uh one more page.

[00:17:33]At the masthead.

[00:17:35]Here you'll have the financial advisor, oh, bond counsel and disclosure counsel, which is GCRLLP.

[00:17:42]I've never even seen that as a firm before for a uh bond counsel or disclosure counsel.

[00:17:50]So, the financial advisor is Caldwell Flores Winters Inc.

[00:17:55]And the treasurer tax collector is the paying agent. So, whoever GCRLLP is, that's your bond counsel.

[00:18:06]So, so they're taking a look at it as as bond counsel and disclosure counsel. And then you have the underwriter who's doing the deal, which is Stone & Youngberg in this in this instance.

[00:18:19]So, that question should be directed to those entities, GCRLLC and Stone & Youngberg.

[00:18:30]Yeah, I was reading through this and I I thought it was very interesting uh the assured guarantor guaranteed municipal court makes no representation regarding the bonds or the advisability of investing in the bonds.

[00:18:44]In addition, AGM has not independently verified, makes no representation regarding, and does not accept any responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of this official statement or any information or disclosure contained herein or omitted herefrom other than with respect to the accuracy of the information regarding AGM supplied by AGM and presented under the heading bond insurance. So it's basically they're disqualifying themselves for any accountability. Yeah, errors and omissions, yeah. Misrepresentations, correct.

[00:19:22]Yeah, crazy.

[00:19:25]So So here's an This is a classic example of >> [clears throat] >> uh 254 thousand dollars uh purchasing bonds and getting paid back 1. 1 million 820,000 30 years later. An unbelievable investment.

[00:19:49]It's crazy.

[00:19:51]And uh you know, and this is going to reissue them in California.

[00:19:55]They'll reissue them and and add on to them and uh make make more money come into them.

[00:20:01]All All kind of crazy stuff, right?

[00:20:04]Yeah, there's uh You know, I'm not going to speak for what what the districts do.

[00:20:10]They know that better than I do. I mean, I know where to look. I know what to examine and what to check on, but frequently uh you know, the the money under Proposition 39 is required to be spent solely on on capital projects, financing uh the funds are for financing capital projects, buildings, facilities, and the like. So it's it's basically for infrastructure for the school districts.

[00:20:44]The housing of children.

[00:20:47]Mhm. And the money that's is >> [snorts] >> restricted for those uses.

[00:20:55]It's crazy.

[00:20:57]Yeah, I remember going to school and we had we went to school in old buildings that had been there for decades and decades. Like some of them like uh my parents went to, so uh it's it's kind of a These buildings can last a long time, obviously, but uh they keep rebuilding and re- and building on more, but the birth rate in America is way down, and there's basically a lot of people, especially in California, that are leaving California.

[00:21:27]Uh so, you don't have as many students as [clears throat] you used to.

[00:21:32]Yeah, they have a lot of declining enrollment taking place throughout the state. Um you also have an influx of new immigrants from uh uh all sorts of countries that have made their way into California, and you have a lot of a lot of expenses associated with uh uh teaching them English and uh >> [clears throat] >> basic skills, reading, mathematics, etc. So, there are a lot of demands placed on this on the school districts, and I don't think all of this money is being directed toward facilities.

[00:22:08]No, definitely not. And uh you know, new computer systems and all that, because it's they say that in the uh in the outline, you know, what what they're going to be spending it on.

[00:22:17]I'm like, "Okay." Uh and you have like 287 students, you need $2 million for all these computers and everything? It's like, pretty suspect.

[00:22:30]Yeah, they had uh in fact, LA Unified had a problem where they spent bond funds on computers. Bond funds are supposed to finance projects over 25 years, at least. Uh under the government code, uh bonds are issued with a lifetime expected uh for up to 40 years.

[00:22:51]Um so, whenever these bond funds are being used, the idea is the project's going to be 25-year project, 40 40-year project, or even longer. It could be, you know, a a stadium could last for hundreds of years.

[00:23:07]But, um as the uh the facilities are constructed, there need to be complete and accurate records. There needs to be a bond oversight committee. There should be [clears throat] auditing performance and financial auditing taking place on annual basis as required under Proposition 39, and I just don't think I don't think the all of the districts are thoroughly familiar with the with the requirements of the Strict Accountability and Local School Bonds Construction Act of 2000.

[00:23:40]Uh there are pervasive requirements that you have to be in compliance. Otherwise, you're you're risking the uh bonds being the tax-exempt nature of bonds.

[00:23:54]Yeah, and uh you know, we're talking earlier before the show, and uh Mitch Becker's been on my show, and he has talked about that he was at the uh bond fraud. Uh and I've seen him on several other shows uh over the years.

[00:24:06]He's really uh you know, outlining how property taxes basically they're defrauding everybody through property taxes to to pay all those costs that you outlined there.

[00:24:17]Uh it's insane. So, that you just exposed here uh is being paid by people in California with their property taxes, which continually go up.

[00:24:28]And it was uh somebody just made a comment in here.

[00:24:31]Uh let me put it back up. We have We have another 4% school tax increase here after the max they were allowed to increase last year.

[00:24:41]So, this is something that continually uh increase the taxes.

[00:24:46]Uh and when someone comes in and accesses the the tax or the you know, the tax the tax rate property tax rate, uh insurance goes up. continues >> the tax rate continues to go up. Yeah.

[00:25:00]>> But the percentage of tax the the caps on how much tax can be applied to property.

[00:25:08]Uh, but the duration of that tax just continues and continues and expands with the you know the increase of of property values.

[00:25:18]Yeah.

[00:25:19]>> In fact if if you go back and look it's interesting because Eli Broad who back in the I think he's from I forget [clears throat] the the name of the housing company that he started with but it was uh he was quite instrumental in recruiting Governor Roy Romer to come in and head up LAUSD.

[00:25:40]Well, Governor Roy Romer was a hired as a superintendent but he didn't have any credential or teaching credential and he didn't have an administrative credential and both are required to be a superintendent under California law.

[00:25:57]Yeah, that's seems to be another thing they do. They bring in these criminals that don't have any you know reason to be there. They have no no credentials like you're talking about. Uh, they're just criminals that they they stick in there and they know that they'll let them get away with their fraud and that's that's one of the things that Mitch Wexler was saying don't stop paying your property taxes go after the fraud. That's how we win.

[00:26:23]That's how we beat this.

[00:26:25]Yeah, well it's you know the the problem is that the the people that are involved are not really criminals.

[00:26:36]They really don't understand what's taking place.

[00:26:40]I'll give an example. There was a Alan Bersin who was a United States attorney for San Diego area.

[00:26:48]Very well respected guy. He went in to serve as a superintendent of San Diego Unified uh for a period of about 10 years.

[00:26:57]And in the first 10 years, he was about 9 years, but in the first years he was there, he issued year after year millions upon millions of dollars in school bonds and uh those those issuances were always coupled or almost always coupled with a large uh 10% or so of capital appreciation bonds.

[00:27:21]In his first issuance, the whole thing was capital appreciation bonds. But, I just think I You know, this is not a This is not a guy with any criminal intent. I just don't think he understood what the effect of the issuance of such a uh high degree of capital appreciation bonds amount of debt that it would would uh impose upon the taxpayers.

[00:27:47]>> [sighs] >> Yeah. Oh.

[00:27:50]You know, you've got Wayland Archer, you've got uh Don Bragdon, you've got uh uh he's a candidate uh candidate for Los Angeles mayor. Oh, Austin Beutner, who was who's a billionaire who came in to to head up LA Unified School District. He was in from I think 2018 through 2021.

[00:28:14]Passed a 7 and 1/2 billion-dollar bond, approximately that number. And he didn't have a teaching credential, he didn't have an administrative credential. He's in there running the district like it's a business.

[00:28:27]Wow.

[00:28:30]Crazy. Crazy. And you were talking before the show, you were involved in this a little bit, but you had to get out cuz it was just so corrupt you couldn't you couldn't stand it.

[00:28:42]So, that's that's kind of the way it is.

[00:28:44]So, Juan, do you have any any uh other uh if you're still there, do you have any other thoughts on this?

[00:28:55]Yes, might have lost him.

[00:28:57]So, let me try to sign him in.

[00:28:59]Yeah.

[00:29:02]So, David, any other any other thoughts on this?

[00:29:05]Well, the only thing I would would stress is that Proposition 39 requires a citizens bond oversight committee.

[00:29:13]Which is supposed to be in place. They're supposed to be well trained. They're supposed to be educated on performance audits, on financial audits, so that that group can report anything that goes wrong in in the expenditures of bond proceeds. So, they can report it to the public. But in my experience, uh the citizens bond oversight committees are just filled with uh friendly appointees who just accept them and sign off on the documents put in front of them.

[00:29:47]So, it's it's very disturbing because I don't think they're performing with duties that they're supposed to execute while while in the position.

[00:29:57]Mhm.

[00:29:59]So, how do how do we defeat this? You I mean, you you had some ideas, but you weren't weren't sure that you wanted to share those yet, but any any thoughts?

[00:30:06]Citizen activity? What do what do you think?

[00:30:10]Well, the first thing, I mean, there's um number one, the counties, I think, the 58 counties of the state of California have to be very uh adept at looking over the credentials of the people that are running the school districts.

[00:30:27]They should be experienced in education.

[00:30:29]They should have uh they should have earned a teaching credential. They should have also earned an administrative credential. They should have been in the process of of uh administration of school districts for 5 to 10 to 15 years before they move into the positions where they can affect and impact uh the uh expenditures of the school district and direction of the school district. So, what's very hard is that that in in California uh 50% of our budget goes toward education in the the amount of tax money that flows into education is just phenomenal.

[00:31:16]The most interesting aspect of this from my my perspective is that people are forced to pay taxes to support education.

[00:31:31]Now, I understand that because you have you have to you know, you have to provide you have this duty to provide education because the premise is that the instruction that the promise of education is the instruction of wisdom.

[00:31:50]So, we want to transmit that that uh uh the awesomeness the the discernment [snorts] the knowledge the prudence the righteousness, the spirituality, and the understanding of everything. And if you advance reading, if you advance mathematics, if you have mentoring, then you're helping the students out there learn about their ethical values and about their personal obligations and about their their personal conduct. And I just see the direction of education in the state of California going off the rails. And it's just you know, it's just off the rails entirely and it's very disturbing. It's very upsetting.

[00:32:38]And uh you know, the impact it has on people's lives is truly disruptive. I mean, I think it's I think [snorts] it's just a shame.

[00:32:49]Yeah, definitely.

[00:32:51]So, what what do you think the end date for this is?

[00:32:55]Cuz a lot of people are saying we're close to the end now. What what are your thoughts?

[00:32:59]So, what for California?

[00:33:01]Yeah, Cali Well, if if Vice President Pence and his team get into California, I think they're going to be shocked at the nature and extent of the school bond fraud that has taken place.

[00:33:15]Um I believe that that we're looking that 2030s are going to be very difficult because these this window for the bonds was between 1993 when capital appreciation bonds were permitted through 2014 and 2014 where they were restricted.

[00:33:38]But, the impact of those bonds issued between 1993 and 2014 involves just billions of dollars. And that's going to start hitting and you know, starting to hit now in the 2020s and the 2030s because those bonds can be issued for between 1993 and 1998 they could be issued for as far out as 40 years.

[00:34:05]And from 1998 forward uh for education bonds, they can be issued for up to 25 years. But, in some exceptions you can still go out 40 years. So, so the damage the games that occurred between 1993 and 2013 are going to start hitting hard in in mid-30s and mid-40s. And it's just going to be There's going to be hell to pay, to be honest with you.

[00:34:36]Mhm.

[00:34:38]And it's going It's I think it's I think it's just going to be uh it's going to make education a real luxury when it should be available to everyone for free.

[00:34:53]Yeah, definitely.

[00:34:55]All right. So, uh Juanito Juanito, come in Juanito.

[00:35:00]Uh we'll we'll just uh I don't know what happened to him, but uh we'll we'll call it here.

[00:35:05]All right, David. Any any last thoughts uh on the bond fraud school bond fraud?

[00:35:10]I know you're you've done several presentations.

[00:35:14]Uh you've done it uh for Lewis Herm at Lewis Herm's event.

[00:35:18]Uh That was fantastic and uh you did it at the uh the bond fraud uh in Vegas. You're going to be there for the next one uh in June, mid-June.

[00:35:27]Uh you're going to come in and and bring in some more information. I mean, you you just found this this latest one.

[00:35:33]You're like, "Oh my god, here's another one." So, Yeah. How many how many more before people uh you know, wake up, you think?

[00:35:42]Uh I think it's going to come at a uh great personal cost. I believe that uh uh you know, the I have a I have a friend of mine. I refer to him as often I'm worried because he knows more about bonds than anybody on the planet, in my opinion.

[00:36:01]And we're both shocked at what we're finding. I mean, on a daily, weekly basis, we just keep finding more and more and more. And it's so disturbing because there are, like I said, there're 58 counties, 937 districts in the state of California.

[00:36:20]And we're not even talking about the community college districts, you know, that operate under the same rules.

[00:36:27]So, this is this [snorts] is very alarming. It's very disturbing and it's an opportunity to to have our uh county office holders take uh take hold of the problem and make sure that our superintendents have have degrees, make sure they have credentials, make sure our teachers have degrees, make sure they have credentials, and let's keep education pointed in the right direction, transferring knowledge, wisdom, understanding.

[00:36:59]Very good.

[00:37:01]All right, David. Uh thanks so much for coming in and and sharing.

[00:37:05]>> Things are starting to just, you know, break loose everywhere.

[00:37:09]And um I think I used it the other night with you, Matt, where, you know, I was discussing, you know, you you see the kid with his fingers in the dike, the old uh story.

[00:37:21]Uh I think Dutch kid, and he's got his fingers in the dike.

[00:37:25]And you think, well, how's that going to help?

[00:37:29]And the reality is that um if you've plugged those holes, the water isn't flowing. You're holding it in check.

[00:37:40]But, if you pull your finger out of one of those holes or multiple of them, what happens is the erosion of the water passing through that uh hole or crack.

[00:37:51]And pretty soon uh the crack is a fissure.

[00:37:56]Uh it's more than just a trickle, it becomes a stream. And the erosion can can just break the uh wall in a dam, and all of a sudden, it's it's you know, coming apart.

[00:38:11]And so, uh what's happening right now is you have a number of people, most of them were suppressed and couldn't come forward. Some of them, they're coming forward like in this case, at least one of the persons, as far as I'm concerned, they didn't do stuff earlier because their nest was being feathered, but now they want to get on the right side of history.

[00:38:41]And so do I knife them in the back for that, or do I accept it?

[00:38:48]Um as they would say it, um it would have been not just career fatal, but maybe elsewise fatal to have made any kind of a thing or to jump forward or something um prior to this, but they feel the safety that things do appear behind the scenes within that specific agency to be going or agencies actually to um in a direction where they they want to make sure their side is understood. In other words, they want to be on the right side of of whatever's coming. Um so uh that's probably not unique. Um and uh uh it you know I'm not going to kick a gift horse in the mouth if we can get the uh information into the right slot and it aids other stuff that's already there. I mean, it's all going to be coming out.

[00:39:47]You know, when the when the dam breaks, I mean, it you know, it really just comes unglued. You know, something finally washes away some area of support and especially if you think of these great earthworks type dams that are common um in the middle and eastern side of the country more so than the west of these huge earthen dams.

[00:40:15]And if they get an area that gets weak or gets washed out, it's it's toast. I mean, the whole thing comes out, you know, and and once the water starts flowing and and that's what we're really looking at with in the um not just ill-run but criminally operated sections of some of these federal agencies where there was criminality involved on the part of individuals. You know, sometimes one thing I think we have to do is not you know, a lot of times people talk about, you know, how the government is bad, how you the federal government is bad. No.

[00:41:00]Oftentimes it's not necessarily that I mean, there is times like with Federal Reserve and like that where there's something wrong with the basic concept of the whole agency itself.

[00:41:11]But other times it's because you have criminal activity um and mischief going on by individuals using their um zone of access to do the stuff that they're doing.

[00:41:33]The agency, the rest of the personnel get tainted, but the reality is it's usually a relatively small number who are the real monsters in the situation. And so we go get them, clear them out, and then try to get things back on an even keel.

[00:41:51]So There you go.

[00:41:54]Hey, one I was just going to tell you I think before I got in the show show a band that had you on about 5:15 or so uh Eastern time this evening. We talked about the coalition and you know, Trump's the election integrity army and you know, what we've been doing. Mark Cook and others around the mostly Mark but others going around the country educating folks on election ecosystem.

[00:42:18]And then we talked about the summit and what the purpose was and Tina and dedicated to her.

[00:42:25]And then he said, "Wow, he says you're having the world premiere of Dark Horse which and I told Warren, you made this happen and I think I'm recounting that bad and said cuz he's friends with Caviezel as well.

[00:42:40]He said Caviezel thinks it's his most important work or best work and I'm thinking how I mean how you get better than Jesus but even I guess Caviezel's very impressed.

[00:42:51]Well, you know, let me say this.

[00:42:55]Um the intensity, the work to portray Christ in the crucifixion.

[00:43:06]Um and I know Jim prayed about this and and sensed that that this was something that he was called to do cuz it you know, [clears throat] there's there's been a number of actors over the years that portrayed Christ.

[00:43:20]Um I don't think any that I've seen in other ones really came across in [snorts] a way that was convincing to me. How would Christ present in certain situations?

[00:43:34]And I've read lots of this stuff about people that had encounters while he was alive such as even Josephus. Josephus describes Christ as leaning up against a tree while talking with people in a very relaxed sense and he was their side, you know, and so it's interesting to think about those types of portrayals. How would Christ have come across to you or me if we had come to with the question or watching how he interacted with people.

[00:44:07]Even like a city, he went to a city and it says he was unable to do any great works there because of their lack of faith.

[00:44:17]What? You know, Christ couldn't do a lot of miracles because the people had, you know, no sense of of faith.

[00:44:28]Faith is so crucial in that way he couldn't overcome that. It's pretty amazing.

[00:44:33]So, you know, that's you know, uh the questions that are out there. It's it's it's a conversation and uh but then you look at this role.

[00:44:46]Lots of people have their own impressions of what Christ would have been like or or how he acted. In the case of Bolsonaro, we don't have a point of reference.

[00:44:58]And so, he's first up, if you will, to try to give us, between the writers and the directors and everything else, a portrayal that gives us a point of reference of who this man is, what he went through, and you know, what the truth is about a lot of what's going on here. Um uh so, I'm anxious to see it and uh um for us to have the conversation.

[00:45:24]It'll be pretty amazing.

[00:45:27]You know, what I Warren asked, you know, shared with Warren and Mandy and let you know, what we're uh we're over 400 400 people have already registered. We got a over a month ago.

[00:45:41]Um we are I've talked to the 800 to see how high we can go, but I I think we'll blow through the 500 lines.

[00:45:50]Yeah, we've talked about that in the course of the uh fact that they're going to pull out the uh bar at the middle, which gives us a uh a significantly more room. I don't want to be overcrowded. And so, we've discussed this uh you and I, and of course the folks over at Ahern. And I think we're going to have a very comfortable event, but we're also probably going to uh go over that 500 by a bit.

[00:46:18]Um I will say this.

[00:46:21]Um I you know, you and I, Matt, but I've probably more so have attended lots of different events around the country.

[00:46:31]Uh the rallies, the things with just a wall of speakers and like that.

[00:46:38]We tried to keep the number down so we could have more detail and um real presentations from these speakers that are you know, world-class with you know, with all the different categories of fraud we're trying to deal with.

[00:46:58]And I think that worked and we did the private conference last month and a half ago uh on the bond stuff, and I think it was very comfortable because we had time to talk individually with the speakers and between ourselves, and we got a lot more done.

[00:47:18]That's what this conference is really about. For example, um we're catering all of the meals.

[00:47:27]Why do that? Um you know, because I want people to stay there and talk with other people there and not feel the need to go somewhere to have a conversation.

[00:47:39]And to enjoy each other's company.

[00:47:42]Um so, by having all the meals catered, uh and not crap meals, I mean, high-quality meals. They actually get awards. The Ahern's one of the best in Vegas on their catering.

[00:47:55]So, by doing that, um we're going to be networking. And one of the most important aspects of the uh coalition has been the fact that we're a network of networks. We have multiple people within the coalition who themselves have a network that they work with and they're our point of contact within those networks. Um and I have I mean, I can just go down the list. Every one of them, you know, either within some state operations and agency operations, etc. So, this network of networks has been unbelievable. I want to see that expand.

[00:48:36]In fact, what Trump said uh yesterday about uh an army Mhm. of people to observe the elections and to make sure that these midterms are done safe and now beyond that. Again, what he's describing is a network of networks, an army. And that's what the coalition is. It's It's been an amazing experience to get to work with so many different people who themselves represent a group of people. Uh some larger, some smaller.

[00:49:10]Um for things that we're able to get done. So, this meeting isn't just about coming and hearing and listening and oh gosh, that was interesting and go home.

[00:49:20]It's as much about getting to um coordinate with and meet some really amazing people attending and developing more connectivity within all the networks we deal with.

[00:49:38]And then, the speaker list is just off the charts. And I know that the speakers are going to be spending a lot of time with the people attending, also. It's It's It's uh It's a um community that uh everyone there power player. So, it's going to be a lot of fun.

[00:49:58]I've told many people in our group that uh it was really neat when I was uh on the scene in in the let's say the Friday calls and understanding the coalition things that it was neat to see that there were other coalitions that I didn't necessarily know about. Of course, you did and Matt did and Mark did and to find out how you were all collaborating for a long time. And I really wanted people to know because a lot of people don't understand how that works that there when you know, Trump said let's make America great again there are citizens that went out there and did exactly that. Started working on those things without saying, "Oh, I I said that was going to happen. Oh, I said that was going to happen." They just put their [laughter] head down and went to town working their rear ends off, taking a lot of heat and and then we've got certain people that have come out and have walked us through that. It's a really neat ordeal. It's It's a really neat uh >> Well, let me add another thing. Go ahead. Go ahead, Matt. I was I was going to say one that something that I am very very uh fond of is knowing the coalition you're not going to hear I did this or um I'm singularly responsible for it's we did and how can I help you?

[00:51:17]And and sometimes I think you see people uh in various domains the the hubris kind of goes to their head and they they become self-important.

[00:51:29]And no, the the mission is what's important, you know, and the country's important, the republic is important. And as I said on Bannon's show this afternoon, I said, you know, Steve so many people in this coalition walked away from jobs going through their life savings. I know Juan has gone through a lot of money, Patrick Byrne has gone through a lot of money singularly those two but other people have just put their lives on hold for five six years just to solve this problem. Well and I will say this the people that I've spoken to yes it's been painful because I think for many of us me included we had envisioned getting through this sooner than has taken place and getting to certain checkpoints sooner than have happened.

[00:52:26]For most of us it's an inconvenience and added expense for someone like Tina and some of the other people who are in legal peril one of the conversations I had earlier today very serious situation involving a judge in one of the states who has gone against the machine and the things that have happened to him.

[00:52:54]You know I'm not going to complain in the slightest knowing that others such as Tina specifically have paid such a high price and then in her case even beyond the rest of us.

[00:53:14]You know fortunately Jen and I enjoy our health we're young enough I feel like you know anything comes up you know we still have a lot of time ahead of us to do different things.

[00:53:30]Someone like Tina who is got the the health challenges and the circumstances she's in Um, the cost is way beyond anything monetary. It's time um, in this world to do certain things, to accomplish things, uh, to just enjoy life. And so, I I won't wince in the slightest. It would be it would be an insult to others who are paying a much higher price to fuss over any inconveniences.

[00:54:08]Money can't buy what it has cost Tina Yeah. um, thus far.

[00:54:16]And so, um, yeah, and you know, you think of superheroes. You know, I was going to say what she else she She's already given a child for this country's defense. She's her son. She's sacrificed her son.

[00:54:31]You know, >> [sighs] >> uh, some of these things, it's you don't have any say over it. It was a cost along the way.

[00:54:42]And so, it's, you know, somehow a sacrifice was involved, but it wasn't by choice.

[00:54:49]Even though she, you know, he he wanted to be who he is, he did stuff that he knew to be important. He got that sense of import very clearly from his mom.