Children as young as seven can absorb and express racial stereotypes, and parents bear primary responsibility for teaching children about race, cultural differences, and mutual respect; honest conversations about both Black and white history, including contributions and struggles, are essential for developing healthy racial attitudes and preventing the development of racist mindsets.
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A 10-YEAR-OLD SAID WHAT ABOUT BLACK AMERICANS?!Added:
be fabby.
>> I am Caucasian.
>> Okay. What's your question for black Americans?
>> Okay. I I have one question.
Um and I might have to explain. So I'll answer questions if anyone needs clarification. Um but my question is I have a a son who is in class. He was looking at the yearbook and he does not want the teacher for next year because he said there are um a lot of black students in there and I was just kind of shocked that he said that cuz we you know whatever we've talked about um like race a little bit. Um but I was like what I don't understand like the teacher that's not how it works the that's not how they do that. uh but why like what's the what's the issue? And he said that the uh the black kids in his class are just very um they cuss, they're they're mean, this that and the other. Um and he does have, you know, his his close-knit group of friends is one white boy and then three black kids, one two girls and one one boy. And um I said, you know, I don't, you know, I don't think it's like about them being black. I think it's like maybe it's like a parent thing. So may maybe what you could focus on is, you know, don't if they do something bad, just ignore it. But if they do something good, just praise it. You know, maybe maybe it's like a parent thing. Um but that really kind of I was just not um expecting that. So, I don't I My question is, is that a good way to describe it? It's like, no, it's not about, you know, them being black.
It's just uh maybe the parents, you know, you don't have to worry about it.
But I I was just genuinely shocked that he said that. This is a sevenyear-old.
This is a seven-year-old.
>> Can I ask a question?
>> Yes.
>> What What What is he influenced by? cuz you know when you get those kind of questions at seven >> that's that's not something that he learned outside. I don't believe.
>> No, that's I I totally understand that.
I again, we have only had minimal conversations about race in my house with my kids. And essentially what it is is, you know, uh people look different.
That's it. Don't make a a spectacle of it because we, you know, if we were on a walk or something and they see their first black person, I don't want my kids to go up to people and be like, "You look different." or or something and be weird. Um, I I've always tried my very hardest to make sure that my kids >> Hold on, Fabby. Hold on, panelists. I want to make this clear. If you're not black American, do not join this conversation. And this is an educational moment. I just want to say that this is an educational moment. I don't have anything to say. I'm going let you guys um you know a a few I don't care if all y'all uh say something but I'll put the I'll let it flow but Greg Greg you know what I'm saying Greg go ahead Greg >> well and so he said so he said um to me I was like well I I was just so confused genuinely I was so confused that's why I'm coming up here to ask this because I was so confused because I have I've really tried to make it a point that uh my kids are not you know racist I I don't, you know, I've had conversations with people on panels about race and about inherent racism, whatever. So, I' I've really made a good effort to to not instill that in my kids. And when he said that, I was like, "Oh my god." And so I was like, "No, it's not it's not about like being black or anything. This is it could be the parents. Maybe they are having a bad day." And he was like, "I mean, I love them. Like, don't get me wrong, they're my friends, but they're so mean. Why? They're so mean. And I so I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do.
>> So, I have I have I have a suggestion.
Um I went to all white schools when I was younger. Um those children there were freaking racist. Okay. They were mean. They were racist. My children went to all white schools and they hate it because they were racist.
>> I love Tik Tok.
>> Well, I love Tik Tok shop, but you know being influenced by other kids.
>> Hold on. My waiter plane say we move and we going we going everybody want to say something. I'm going to give you a chance to speak. Go ahead.
>> Yeah. I don't I don't think that it is it is about it starts at home. It is about his um how he's um interpreting the world, how he's seeing things. That that right there is your responsibility to put in his mind, you know, a different type of uh to invoke thought and give him a different type of way of thinking about the life and different people and all of that stuff.
>> What do I say?
>> Uh well, you have to talk to him about race.
>> What you're not saying, >> right? You have to be honest.
>> That's why I'm on here. Yeah. Tell me.
>> Okay. You have you have to be honest and sit him down and say, "Hey, they don't look like you, but they're humans and they should be respected, too. They may be a little loud. Maybe you don't understand them." Well, if you get to understand them, maybe then you, you know, won't think these things about them, but if you just leave him his mind to wonder, he's going to not understand and he's going to grow up with a a racist mentality.
>> Yeah. He's going to be >> Okay. But here's here's the thing, though. Here's the thing. Here's the thing.
>> Hold on real quick. Can I respond?
>> Wait a minute. Terry. Yeah. Let her respond.
>> Okay. So So here's the thing. What, And this is why I'm like really perplexed about this. Um the daycare he went to was an inhome daycare. Um it was an all black family and he he grew up around black people. He knows the uh loudness, boisterousness that you you're talking about. Um, he knows that and I So that this is why I'm so like kind of heartbroken about it that like my [ __ ] seven-year-old Sorry.
>> He influenced by something different now.
>> I'm just really like what do I say to him and Okay, >> go ahead cuz you got a lot of people. We going to slow walk it. Hold on, Greg.
Terry, go ahead. Hold on.
>> But you my my auntie did daycare. She took care of white kids. But they didn't say nothing nothing nothing too brutal or nothing like that. But you going to have to talk to him cuz when he grow up cuz it'll be a time we not playing playing with people no more. You see what happened to uh >> uh what's his name? Uh what's his face?
>> Ch the builder.
>> Yeah. Chuck the builder. You see what happened to him? You're not playing. You know to the boy.
>> I know. I know. If you not if you if you if you don't >> if you wait too late something's going to happen to him happen to him. But >> here's the thing. My son is not mean. My my son But the thing is like my son's not like that. That that's the thing.
That's why it's so shock like the his friends are are the are the black kids.
That's who he likes. He's very sporty.
He's he likes to dance. He I mean it's like >> I I don't >> Can I please like I don't know if it's teachers like >> I'm hearing something. My second my third eye is ringing right now. You >> ain't lying.
>> Mine too.
>> Go ahead Maroon bro cuz I I might say something out of pocket man.
>> Um um Savvy I believe your name is. Yes. So I think the important thing that you as a parent and not not saying you're a bad >> broke up.
>> Sorry. Go ahead. My bad.
>> Go ahead. I was telling Go ahead.
>> Okay. Um yeah, I think the important the most important thing here and this is also a I'm glad Miss Love said this a very educational moment is because it's not just Africans that step over cultural boundaries and different things. I think the thing you're going to need to talk to your kid about is we're different culturally. Even though you might be a heritage American, we might be foundational black Americans, but culturally we are completely different. Um, black people in this country, us foundational black Americans, we've had a 500year resistance against uh you all and your ancestors. I don't know if you're an immigrant from here, but you know, we have a certain set history on this land.
And I don't know if the kids you even dealing with are FBA, but you're going to have to explain to him, hey, there's certain things culturally that you're just going to have to respect. And uh those kids, you know, my mother, I can talk about my mother. She taught me to uh respect all people of all different cultures. She never told me to stay away from anybody or do anything weird like that. So, you know, something that he's maybe not hearing in the home is probably that is that, you know, you just got to have some respect for other people from different cultures, if that makes sense.
>> Hey, um, do you think Ire Greg know this? Greg want to make you aware of something. Greg, can you make her aware?
Cuz just I don't know, she might be aware, but just go.
>> There's some there's some very suspicious holes in this story. Number one, you say he doesn't understand race, >> but you said he's around black people.
He hangs around >> again.
Understands race.
>> No, no, no. I I I if I I might have misspoken. I from a very young age when I found um that the babysitter cuz I had interviewed a bunch of people and I just liked this family the best. I knew that we we needed to have a race conversation. So I did introduce it very early on. Um and so so I'm sorry if I misspoke.
>> My question is do I need to go further and be like you don't because I have I have spoken about like this is a cultural thing like you don't we all can't talk at once and what what is your husband's thoughts on race?
>> Uh what is your thoughts on race? my husbands or mine?
>> Well, I want to know about your husband.
>> They're the influencers of your children. So, yes. What are your what are your understandings of black folks >> and your husband? I'm curious to know what his thoughts are.
>> You can speak for him. Um, so my my husband and I agreed to raise our children with the understanding that when we talk about black people, it's going to be it's going to have to be raw and at times kind of devastating.
Um, because that's just like the truth of of how life is. The problem is do we do it early or not? My husband wanted to like wait until they're older. Um, I kind of wanted to introduce it as young as possible, you know, three or just just as as a part of, you know, conversation so that we don't have >> Gabby, real quick. I don't mean to cut you off, but what why why is that what y'all talk about? How to introduce us to the world? Like, if that white people >> like No. So, that that conversation >> like I'm your son. Hold on, ma'am. Can you can you talk to me like I'm your seven-year-old and I ask you, "Mommy, who are black people?"
>> I would say, "What do you mean who are black people?"
>> Who are they? How >> you mean like You mean like your cl Okay, it's just me and you now. Okay, honey. What do you mean black people?
Like in your classroom?
>> Historically?
>> Historically?
>> We're learning about We're learning about black history, Mom.
>> Okay. You're learning about black history.
>> We're slaves.
>> Okay, honey. This is going to be hard.
This is going to be hard. But this is this is what happened. Okay, so black people were actually stolen.
They were stolen. Okay.
And they were forced >> stole them >> um white people.
>> Well, mom, a black kid told me It didn't It didn't finish. Mr. Greg, you got to uh keep >> Thank you, Greg. You bought black people.
>> So, white people bought stolen black people and forced them to work.
>> Black people were so savvy in Africans, unless in case you don't know, they wasn't stolen, they were sold. But go ahead.
>> No, that's what I was saying. They they were stolen and and then they they were sold. Um I I have I have actually had this conversation with all three of my children. Um >> go on. I I love I I I love you, Mom. Go on.
>> Okay. So, you're you guys are studying black history.
Honey.
>> Yes, mom. We're >> What are they What are they telling you?
>> They only told us about slavery if >> Okay. What did they say about slavery?
>> They said, uh, we worked they worked them hard from sun up to sun down and they gave them freedom.
>> Okay. Who is they?
>> Us.
>> Us. Me and you.
>> White people.
>> We worked them sun up to sun down.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Do you understand that they were brutally treated?
Yes, mom. Slavery is bad.
>> Yes, but do you understand why slavery is bad?
>> You have to explain to me, Mom. I'm seven.
>> Okay, so here's what happened. Black people were stolen and then they were sold. Okay, they did not have a choice.
Do you understand that?
>> Well, >> a black kid told me that they invented the stoplight.
They did >> the door knob and the street sweeper.
>> Is that true, Mom?
>> I'm not sure. Should we Should we Google it?
>> I'm sorry. Can I ask you a question? Did you tell him that y'all came over here on ships, too?
Did you tell him that that YT people came over here on boats, too, >> and there was no? Okay. So, maybe you should tell him the truth about who you guys are, too.
>> Tell him that you guys came over here.
>> The light bulb.
>> Did Black the light bulb? Mom, >> do you know who did that? Mom.
>> Oh, Greg. That's actually I'm sorry, son. That's actually very interesting.
I'm pretty sure that it was stolen. I've had this conversation, too. I've had this conversation. Okay. So, can we get to >> Let me stop you. Let me stop you.
>> Yeah.
>> See, the thing is is that if you wanted to tell your son the truth, you should tell your son that it's black people who are responsible for the shaping and and the building and the culture of the country that you bask in, the inventions that you use every day. Honey, when you go and open that door, that's a black person. You should thank a black person. When you open the refrigerator, you should thank a black person. When we go to the store and we get up on that escalator and those elevators, you should thank a black person.
>> I'm sorry, Greg. Oh, and thank a black person for the amendment 14. That's why we're here, too. Because of black persons.
>> You should tell them that, too. for the security of the union. You should thank black people.
>> All right. I've had all I've had all I can take. I've had all I can take to free the country.
>> I am going to uh I do think I'm going to have >> I do think I'm going to have a a bigger conversation with him.
>> Listen, I'm going to be I'm going to give you my full Listen, I feel like you should go and be 100% real. Say, you know what? pull up Ellis Island the boats and when you know guys came over here in the Mayflower and show them that you guys came over here on boats too.
You weren't stolen. You fled.
>> So show them that too.
>> Show them that amendment 14 was for you to be here too.
>> Show him that, too.
>> Love, can I ask you a question?
>> Go ahead.
>> I got a question for you. You said you did interviews. Why the black family?
>> I'm sorry.
>> I'm curious about that. You said you did interviews of taking care of your son, uh, doing interviews for daycare, >> by the black family.
>> Black family.
>> No. So, what So, the way it went down is I texted um a few friends that had um you know, sitters that were in home cuz we couldn't afford um like a like a building, I don't even know, like a commercial, you know, daycare. Mhm.
>> So anyway, so I had gotten a few numbers and so I had texted all of them and um there were only three there were only three families um that I had texted with. One of them was a little far, but I was like, "Okay, it's fine." Um she had a kid like under her table when I first got there cuz he was in timeout and I was like, "Okay, no, not you." Um why are you like whatever. Um the second mom, it just didn't work out. Um, and then the third mom happened to be a black family. I didn't know that she was black. Um, but I will never forget when I met her, there was a little girl in the in the um playroom that started screaming bloody murder and I was like, "Oh my god, someone punched this child."
I mean, I didn't say that, but I was thinking it. And the mom uh the babysitter said, "Um, wow, you sure do love the sound of your voice." And the little girl giggled and like went about her day. And I was like, "Yeah, no, I think you're I think you have like a really high threshold for kids." And that's really that's really what sold me was just how how well she >> And another another question. Alo, can you put me on big screen?
>> Why?
I want to show her something if she can see it. I want to take a screenshot of this and thank this black woman for making the air conditioner. Take a screenshot of this and send this to your son. Show him this.
>> I will. I I will. This is I really think I know that y'all like um >> I know it's probably annoying to >> Terry, can you put that back up real quick so I can take a screenshot?
>> Oh, you want to take a screenshot? Oh, okay.
>> Our black woman made some good things.
The the security system, everything. I got pictures of that, too.
>> I got another picture. My son, >> my my son literally loved and adored. He still talks about them, you know. We still plan visits to hang out with them.
>> Right here.
>> Okay. Hold on. Your head's in the way.
>> My bad.
>> Okay.
>> You really one back up real quick.
>> Who was that? That didn't say a name though. That one.
>> Yeah. Hold on. I didn't show the name.
Hold on. Give me a sec. I'm throw back to the other one.
I am going to have this conversation with him. I promise. I was I was really heartbroken when he said that. Um because I didn't I was like, "No, it's just not a big deal." Just I don't know.
I don't know. Honestly, honestly up to be Oh, you want to go?
>> Oh, no. I just wanted to say one thing.
Honestly, all kids are loud. I mean, that's what kids do, right? They go out, they scream soon as that soon as the bell rings. It's time for them to go to recess. They run up the hall. They're screaming and talking and playing.
>> Black kids.
I'm telling you, hey, my aunt did.
>> I'm going to ask him. That's not a question.
>> Yeah. And it might be something. I don't know if he got access to games or any kind of um social media or any kind of electronics.
>> No, we took it away. We took it away.
>> Why?
because um my oldest was having a little bit of issues. Um and I talked with my my friend who was a teacher and I told her the same thing and she said it's it's not a race thing at all. It's a parent thing. It's it's these freaking iPads. And so I I took YouTube, YouTube Kids, Roblox, all of it. They can watch TV. They've got Tuby, Netflix. Um so I took all of it. I took all of it away.
And here's the thing, he lo he loves these kids.
Um, so I don't understand like that.
That's why I'm like a little annoyed.
Like is it the teachers being weird? And I know y'all keep saying it's me. I I understand. And y'all don't know me. So, you know, >> I period before we let you guys.
>> No, I mean like No, I mean like y'all don't know me. Like y'all I I understand if y'all blame me. I understand that.
But I I am really trying. I'm really trying.
>> I appreciate you coming to ask. But my thing is before we um let you go, like you got almost 70k followers. Is this something that I think you should share things with your uh Caucasian friends too? You know, you you have no idea.
>> I've thought about it, but I'm scar I'm I've thought about making a video about uh but I'm I am a little bit scared about getting like doxed or I don't know, maybe some crazy.
>> Did you mention black people? You say something about black people.
>> Yeah, I'm scared that some crazy like redneck is going to come find me. I don't know. But I have I have seriously considered um I have seriously considered it. I I don't want to come off as like a white savior. You know what I mean?
>> How do you feel about George Floyd?
>> I cried.
>> Good question. Oh my god.
>> I I baldled. I I was so pissed that everything >> I'mma rotate the stage. Thank you for coming up.
>> Okay. Thank you guys. Have a great go ahead. Greg was asking you.
>> Oh, I thought you were talking about me.
>> Can I go after Greg if you don't mind, Miss Lo?
>> I think it was um RC wanted to go. Go ahead.
>> Basically, I just wanted to sum the conversation up. Our history is much more uh deeper and much more intricate than just slavery and Martin Luther King. There are are are great virtues that black Americans have contributed to this country that just simple things that make your everyday life that much more convenient.
>> And that's the thing that you should be telling your child and every white person to tell their kids and also teach themselves as well. You know, cuz it's not up to every black person in this room, in this chat, and every other black person you run into, to educate you about the people in which you live around and partake with and spend money and have money spent with you and you spend money with them, so >> you know what I'm saying? So, >> I'm I'm on that tip. You know, I was doing you a favor and a favor for the space, but I don't educate white people.
>> Thank you. And can I can I say something also? I just want to think though.
>> Okay, just real quick. I think that I think I'm sorry. I think that also you should educate him and be 100% honest about your history too. So then that way he doesn't grow up and feel superior over anyone because he knows that he has a history that's not perfect either. So I think that maybe you should talk to him about some of those things that I I mentioned. you know that the YT America hide the fact that you, you know, came over here on boats and show him the pictures and do the whole nine yards because you don't want him to grow up a white tea supremacy, right?
>> No, I think that's so be 100% real about your history, too. That'll help.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay, go R.J. real quick so Savvy can say her final say.
>> Yeah. I noticed every time you keep saying your son love these kids. I know one thing I know about people that genuinely love people, they don't think those kind of thoughts. So that's why I'm like what is like when I keep hearing like it's just like you keep saying he loves these kids but he has those type of >> okay >> ideas in his mind is >> how do you feel about Charlie Kirk's rhetoric to >> Here's what I here's what I'll say. Uh Young Greg I'll answer Charlie Kirk after after this. Um but Young to answer your question it never was an issue. I knew who his friend group was. Um they bring toys to school um so that they can play with him and then they bring him back. And um I just my he's such a good friend. He's my my son is such a good friend and he's such a hard head here.
He's so persistent with me. And um but when he so when he came back and said that I was like no like I I don't I really don't think it's that. I I think I think what it is is like the the the parents maybe the you know they're having a bad day or something, but I just was not expecting him to say that and it it honestly it honestly pissed me off.
>> Hold on, Savvy. I know. Why Why did it have to be the kids' parents or a bad day or something like that? Why?
>> Well, that's why you hold Savvy because what I think a lot of us feel is it's something else like you know what I mean? cuz we we centuries. We don't feel like anybody should have to make excuses for us or feel like they got to tolerate black people. But I'm going say this. Um before we let you go, it's something else. It kids is loud in general. But for for it to be the specific black kids that that is making him feel all these certain ways, it's a bigger issue >> because he doesn't though. He doesn't But he doesn't feel that way. That's why that's what I'm saying. And I'm sorry for >> loud white. None of his white friends get loud.
>> He doesn't really He has one white He has one white friend.
>> My white friend. So nobody else get I don't like his I don't like his white friend. He knows that. I've already told him.
>> I'm so none of his other friends. It's okay. Well, I don't know what else to um say. But when we >> But I'm sorry for someone said that I'm blaming, you know, y'all for for how he feels. I'm I'm sorry. Like I And I am going to have a conversation with him.
Then don't forget what American said too. Make sure you tell them your history because y'all don't y'all don't That's why these kids coming out racist.
They think they over black people and everything else. But the time it's a new day. Savvy.
>> I'm just like and he he knows too like he knows like black people's like souls is the thing. He knows that their souls are like pure. He he knows that. And so I I just I don't know. It really It really pissed me off. It really pissed me off.
>> You in our prayers. Hopefully he you can give them hopefully you can change him before it's too late. You have a good day, Sav.
>> Thank you, too. Bye.
>> Uhhuh. Steuart, >> look. Yeah. Can I say something, y'all?
I >> black American.
>> Absolutely.
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