Genie Talks Episode 13 | Uncut. Unfiltered. Kochi Talks | Ranjini Haridas ft. Oneal & Trinette

Added: 2026-05-10

[00:00:09]We druggies. We're gangsters.

[00:00:11]>> Culinary anthropology. It sounds so cool. I was a silent protest.

[00:00:15]You're burning a Santa Claus.

[00:00:18]But don't ask me.

[00:00:26]Okay.

[00:00:43]Genie talks.

[00:00:45]Hey everyone, welcome back to Genie Talks. I'm back once again and this time I've got two people who I kind of know really, really well. one I know really really well I know well okay because one one of them and I go back all the way to college and the other one kind of goes back through a journey you've all seen quite publicly to call them okay but there's something else that connects both these guests they're really really good friends they were born and raised in the same little part of town which all of us really really love and we call it kochi with love so for girls and boys.

[00:01:25]>> The four coaching girls and boys are uniting together.

[00:01:28]>> FC boy here.

[00:01:29]>> FC boy there and Chanette welcome >> and our honorary member four coachary member the honorary member member of FC.

[00:01:39]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I am I have no doubt.

[00:01:40]Okay. Now we're going to before because Genie talks. Okay. Let me tell you about the show. Okay. This is a show I decided to do because I was doing Green Room and with Green Room, I could only shoot one episode a day. So, the budget was really insane. So, I was like, "Oh my god, I can't shoot one episode and like waste all that." So, I needed to do something to kind of uh monetize that whole day. I decided, okay, let me just start a new format. And then I was like, what should I start? I was like, hey, green room, I have to kind of be scripted and be kind of like rigid and kind of follow things.

[00:02:11]I said if I need somewhere where I can just be me where there's no script where it's like do whatever you want talk however you want and there's no judgment >> unfiltered >> unfiltered but then I was like okay let me start the show and call on people that I'm going to have these sort of conversations >> to talk to than the people know you exactly hopefully as we go on further other people will join in and you know we'll form a good community but today I have both of you welcome >> thank you what an honor >> yeah see this It's uh I don't know. We We never thought about it, >> dude. This was not coordinated.

[00:02:43]>> No, right. We saw each other. We like, "Okay, we're in the same shade."

[00:02:46]>> So, I was wearing this shirt, >> right? It's very cool shirt, man. What is it?

[00:02:49]>> Thank you. Thank you. It's a >> It has a new brand. I don't know.

[00:02:53]>> Let's plug it. It's okay. Your brand.

[00:02:55]>> No, no, not my brand. Your friend's brand.

[00:02:56]>> Somebody called Swatling.

[00:02:58]>> Oh.

[00:02:58]>> Oh. So, there's a girl called Swati.

[00:03:00]>> Swati. Kuchina.

[00:03:01]>> Ah. So, she's done this.

[00:03:03]>> Nice. Very cool.

[00:03:05]>> Everything else is my accessories.

[00:03:08]>> You know, we're from port.

[00:03:09]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:03:10]people. Okay. Now let let us let me talk about our ba. Okay. Tell us about your ba for silent please.

[00:03:18]>> What's the rules that said just before we started guys >> put your phone on silent reminds us also.

[00:03:24]>> I can break the rules. We can all break it. That reminds us. Okay.

[00:03:27]>> Have you a good always been a good girl.

[00:03:29]Okay. So Triny I known from college. We will say how later. Him. I know. You all know us because we've both been on Big Boss. But just before that I remember I think we you said I went to a restaurant your blue elephant. Okay. But before that how do you know each other?

[00:03:45]>> Ah so there's an interesting story. So since like say so you know >> there's this uh Christmas ball in >> for know we know the Christmas ball. So it happens in YWCA.

[00:03:57]>> So I was in the 10th grade. I just finished my 10th grade and I'm here 11th grade.

[00:04:01]>> So there's this thing when I went to the ball. So I don't know how to jive for I don't know how to jive because because I'm not like you know I'm just half angle I'm not fully angler so you know so like >> I didn't know how to jive but I was always into hip-hop and rap and stuff like that. So when that comes that's my time so I take center stage obviously >> and then there's this particular dance >> called tag >> tag you dance or like tag?

[00:04:28]>> No it's a tag tag. So if you're if you're a dude and you're single like so that you can tag any girl >> and then you can >> so you get a chance to dance with that girl.

[00:04:38]>> Yeah. But then you can talk, >> right? So this is called a tag dance. So obviously it doesn't come free.

[00:04:46]>> He has to buy a bunch like a bag of tags and then the girl that he wants to dance with he tags her and then he gets to dance with her if he offers her a tag.

[00:04:56]>> Oh.

[00:04:59]So what happens is we actually spend to know people. That's it. That's what it is.

[00:05:04]>> But then what happens is at the end of the day, which girl gets tagged the most? She's like the tag queen.

[00:05:08]>> It's the popular lady of >> drag queen. Tag queen.

[00:05:11]>> Tag queen.

[00:05:12]>> No, it has a name. It's called the popular lady.

[00:05:14]>> The popular lady.

[00:05:15]>> Oh wow.

[00:05:16]>> I think Miss Jacksonette was I have no doubt.

[00:05:20]>> So I tagged >> you. Still tag queen. So I tagged Trinette probably when we were 11th grade. Hi, my name is all the stuff.

[00:05:29]Then I get to know that. So obviously my brothers and her brother are like in the same you know class. So my cousin brothers my cousin brother is smaller.

[00:05:37]>> Yeah. So that's my my son. So this is my elder brothers the cousins we all you know she's senior to you. I'm also senior to you. Good.

[00:05:49]>> So what happened to you? Yeah. So I was like obviously Trinette always looks hotag.

[00:05:57]So so you know we like tagged to know Trinette but then we got to know Dennis's sister. Stay away like that's how it is. That's the rules of the boot. So okay friends of my brother.

[00:06:08]>> Nobody asked you out in >> No one asked me out.

[00:06:11]>> Oh man that's tough. I was I was like >> outside that is your first memory.

[00:06:21]>> That's how I first met her. But then we connected years later when I'm like FC and she's like this is that dude. Oh >> you remember?

[00:06:28]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I used to see him for every dance like YWCA Christmas ball.

[00:06:33]>> He will be there with this group of dudes.

[00:06:35]>> I would see him every year and you know he's come and said hi being the tag dancer. So I know him. So you remember >> but we became close much later.

[00:06:42]>> Yeah. Okay. So now that's how they uh connected. Trinet ende uh I joined college in 2000. Okay. So that was right after mascara. Uh literally like a week or two after.

[00:06:54]>> This is a story that I think I should you should say. So I'm going to pass it on to her. How did we meet?

[00:06:59]>> Yeah. Yeah. So basically I was in college. I was just one year senior >> and suddenly I hear about this really you know arrogant girl who's just won Miss >> Kerala.

[00:07:09]has joined and she has a major attitude like everyone's like this girl is like okay so I was like >> you know the typical fort coaching gangster came out and I'm like who the girl I want to see who this girl is I was like okay >> so one day like we near the belt tree I think >> somewhere there and >> we stud in Stras by the way Stras girl yeah >> so at that point oh yeah No, no. I am the explanate dude.

[00:07:41]>> Not the creepy one.

[00:07:42]>> NO, NOT THE CREEPS. NOT THE CREEPS. I am the explanate dude, but not the creepiness.

[00:07:47]>> Not the creepy dude.

[00:07:49]>> I am the one who spends in odd bits.

[00:07:51]>> I'm okay.

[00:07:52]>> Now you get it. Now I get it.

[00:07:53]>> So one day I you know my friends and I go to this place and we waiting for Ranjini Haridas to come and she walks in and they were like let's give it to her dude. So basically that those that time ragging was just ask you some questions and all that. So it's not like the real ragging stuff like that.

[00:08:10]>> Not like engineering college kind of ragging.

[00:08:12]>> Not like your neighbor law college.

[00:08:14]>> No, I studied one year.

[00:08:16]>> We'll come to your >> we would just ask questions and you know just remember a little bit >> our idea of rattling. Okay. We didn't know that she's she. That's a different thing. But anyways, I called her and I'm like what's your name? And she's like Ranjani. And you know you know just just like we've seen her whatever we've seen her and she answered every damn question. sweetly.

[00:08:38]>> Yeah, I know.

[00:08:38]>> And I'm like, I'm trying really hard.

[00:08:40]>> There's no way you can rag me.

[00:08:41]>> I'm trying really hard not to like this girl. I kind of like her. I'm like, okay, I need to stick to the script. I need to not like her.

[00:08:49]>> Yeah. Yeah, you're trying.

[00:08:50]>> But at the end of it, I'm like, >> I think you took me to eat or something.

[00:08:55]Half I felt bad for her and I'm like are you like something I'll tell you how I met you now tell so the first time I met you is so I saw you you already celebrity so 2001 I joined so I'm like one year junior >> in law college >> so that's when >> so obviously you're law college >> yeah I'm law college and then I moved to I don't know. Yeah, of course. J was college.

[00:09:34]>> Seniors, right? So my seniors. So I studied only a year there.

[00:09:38]>> But I was pretty popular.

[00:09:39]>> Can you imag what is you? I have one another friend. I'll tell you his name.

[00:09:42]>> So one year I was there. So during that one year you know this is 2001.

[00:09:46]>> Imagine where should we go to eat? We had only places next to St. Trees and obviously you can check out >> that was the only place. You have like same trees as girls obviously. So there's So I I was always this person who would like to stand out. I don't want to be the usual cre.

[00:10:00]>> So being there, >> you wanted to be an exclusive cre.

[00:10:02]>> Yeah. I WANTED TO BE I I wanted to check out I wanted to check out nicely. So go sit there in hot breads, you know, order a coffee, >> sit there for 3 hours, it'll become cold coffee in its own drink something cold and you know look at it. And that's when I see engineer also.

[00:10:15]>> You saw me. That's the first time.

[00:10:17]>> Yeah. Yeah. That's it. I just saw you.

[00:10:18]So I met I I saw you. I met Diva only there. So you can get to see everybody who's famous, who's hot, and who is like the new sensation. And that time it was like a small world, right?

[00:10:28]>> Nobody had phones.

[00:10:30]>> You could you could just go. Now you're like scared to be in the open, right?

[00:10:33]Because there's creeps all around. That time what would you do? I mean like you were like >> look and you're too shy to go and approach somebody. I'm not like that kind of a person. So I'm like, "Okay, >> dude. At that time there's no swiping left and right. You have to go to escalate if you want to meet if you want." And was like, you remember the Valentine's Day thing? It was such a hot spot now.

[00:10:53]I don't know. I know. I have no idea.

[00:10:55]So, we miss good old you know convent junction.

[00:10:57]>> Yeah, we talking about 2000 like 26 years back. I know convent junction was the hard work. That's where a lot of you know people are married right now met there.

[00:11:06]>> Met there a lot of them who have children married and all of that.

[00:11:08]>> Married and divorced.

[00:11:09]>> Okay. So, now that was history, you heard a bit of their forti thing. Uh you heard about uh our college meeting. Now what do you guys do right now? This is for the audience because they have except they know him. They know you a little bit because you just singing now and she's managing but in tell us what are you doing now?

[00:11:29]This is my friend Trinad lives in Bangalore.

[00:11:32]>> Hi. So, so I'm basically by qualification and experience I am a strategic HR consultant. So I've worked with brands like Nvidia. I worked with Nvidia for eight years. worked with Walcom and then after 20 years of working in corporate life I realized that okay I'm done I've got to get back to doing something creative which was how I started so when I was here when I was in college I used to sing the band >> I used to do a little bit of modeling booths and all of that >> so after 20 years of corporate life I was like okay I need to you know get back to doing something creative >> and I have a son as well so I wanted the flexibility to do something you know while I kind of look after him as So yeah, so I got back into music. So I was managing Mother Jane for a few years >> and I also started like a small band of our own. It's called Brown Sugar.

[00:12:22]>> Yeah. Well, you're doing a few shows here and there. Tomorrow, in fact, you're singing at Francis. Is it just next week?

[00:12:28]Sorry.

[00:12:35]>> So yeah, so I'm doing a little bit of music. I also do a little bit of modeling here and there >> and um >> full-time mom full-time >> full-time mom I also still do HR consulting >> freelance >> like yeah I'm I'm a consultant for strategic HR so I do a little bit I spent some time in radio as well >> yeah yeah I was in Bangalore >> okay which one every >> 91.9 oh you did radio for a bit >> yeah so anything if you see the common thread is music >> music all along with music >> but that's a very for coachi thing is it >> a very coachy thing Yeah. Your what what is your uh current status? What's happening with you?

[00:13:13]>> I'm doing everything I like.

[00:13:14]>> Like what do you like?

[00:13:15]>> So uh so the thing is okay my history in terms of maybe what you wouldn't know what a lot of people would know.

[00:13:20]>> Yeah. Who is O'Neal and how FCh of course yes so is a lawyer professionally.

[00:13:28]>> Oh Yes. I didn't know that. No.

[00:13:34]>> That's the idea. So that's the idea. I know him as a as a chef like like a bunch of >> I did my law from National Law School in Kerala which is Noel's >> and so before that is where law college >> and then after graduating I went to Bombay I was working there as a >> working as a >> as a corporate lawyer >> I was placed in Reliance and then after that I worked in a law firm in Bangalore.

[00:13:57]>> Oh >> then I went to the UK studied time law in Southampton.

[00:14:02]>> Okay.

[00:14:03]>> And then I worked in London for a bit.

[00:14:04]Oh, >> after that after that after after that I worked there.

[00:14:13]So the reason I I get to that.

[00:14:16]>> So chronologically after that I went to Katar. I was there again. I was there again as a lawyer.

[00:14:22]>> 10 years after doing law >> now you're already 50.

[00:14:25]>> No I'm 40. I'm 42. Okay.

[00:14:28]>> Yeah. So >> so I finished law as in 10 years into the career.

[00:14:33]>> I was done then I started. So what law has given me is research. So now I'm a culinary anthropologist. I research in a particular discipline which is anthropology but related to food culinary.

[00:14:45]>> So what like say I am analyzing the cuisine of Kerala topographically. Oh >> not community wise but topographically.

[00:14:51]So what's there in the highlands midlands and the ghost?

[00:14:54]>> So that's what you're doing now.

[00:14:55]>> Uh that's what primarily my >> a culinary anthropologist. Sounds so cool.

[00:15:00]>> I know. I I just wouldn't >> so boring when I say I'm an anchor. What are you? I'm a culinary anthropologist.

[00:15:06]>> Boy, it is so fancy. Right. So I've written a book in 2016, got it published. I So it's called Soul Fried Monologues. So it's a coffee table book.

[00:15:15]>> I did not bring that but uh then I So I've had like one or two firsts like I started Kerala's first spook trail.

[00:15:22]>> I remember I've seen that.

[00:15:23]>> Fantasma.

[00:15:24]>> You haven't been through it. You haven't been so I brought you a svenir for that.

[00:15:27]>> Very good.

[00:15:27]>> So then that's tell us what is spook trail. So I got inspired by this when I went backpacking in Scotland. There was this spook trail around they have Edinburgh Castle. So Edinburgh Castle what they do is like it's like£10 that time I'm like a student >> so who cares £10 on a drunk night is fine.

[00:15:47]>> So we went so lot of nationalities Indians very few >> so we like nine 10 of us we there and this guy is like a person who's there like speaking in a very strong Scottish accent. You're standing at me tomb and all that stuff and he was giving us a very har so I was like drunk and high.

[00:16:03]So at that time I was like dude I can do this so many stories and but the problem is >> all the stories in terms of storytelling sessions that people do is very commercial. It's very touristy.

[00:16:15]>> People do it like in a way to sell it.

[00:16:17]>> But the thing I want to sell is my place the way I like it.

[00:16:22]>> So that's how I you know when I started writing a book I took up this name called FC Boy Fort Kin >> because that was a good pen name. I'm born to people from Fort Kin and then you know I carry the spirit just like her anybody like you cuz you're again you're adopted to Fort K.

[00:16:37]>> No but like that's the one thing that's so strong about people from your parts of town. You guys are so proudly Fort Kochi and you like represent it and stand up for it like nobody else and very vocal about it. I will get to that.

[00:16:50]>> I am I am very vocal about that's a topic in a second.

[00:16:52]>> So I what I did is like prolonged absence from my place 10 years I was there from home. So I was like discovering more. I never wanted to educate myself to be in food coaching.

[00:17:02]Absolutely not. Who wants to be? So then I got rooted a little bit.

[00:17:06]>> So after that I was wanting to do things that I missed doing in college because I was always competitive. I was doing competitions. I was not getting first place when I was a lawyer.

[00:17:15]>> So that's what I missed. So I was like you know not close. So I want to be on TV. Somebody like is an inspiration which is which is again one of the things that I like. something somebody who gives me inspiration is a person who's defied things and you know doing her own.

[00:17:30]>> Oh, she's the queen of defian.

[00:17:31]>> No, no, the thing is she's single and childfree like me and this absolutely that's that's that's again defiance. A lot of things like tattoos are expressive. That's my expression.

[00:17:40]Then the way like you know when I talk about it I just need to tag FC boy. I don't believe in tags.

[00:17:45]>> So I when I went to Big Boss I never kept the tag advocate.

[00:17:48]>> Yeah.

[00:17:48]>> The reason is when something comes obviously I am an advocate. I'm a lawyer so you don't mess with me. I can thrash a preconceived notion.

[00:17:57]>> I can thrash you in more ways than you can count because I was very good in terms of a student.

[00:18:01]>> Very he knows the law as well, right? So he >> I was very studious. I used to go for extracurriculars. I represented India went to Australia during my college. So a lot of things cricket everything. I was the souvenir trophy child >> for my mom and dad. I still am. So they are so it was huge for my brother >> to be replicating what I did and that's when I discovered that he's very passionate he's a very polyglot kind of a person he's command over languages >> and so acting around >> you should do that and then you know he he struggled now he's there >> now now he's a star two stars he did not want my help to do that this is I people know that because I met her on the set and this is one thing we need to reveal now.

[00:18:54]>> Yes. Okay. So uh and obviously now Kerala knows him at what do they call you big because big boss I'm switching to bigosal big just just before that I'm there for one day shoot at for that place audition your brother is there everybody's there this fellow is also there so I had no idea this fellow is this fellow's brother. Hey, what's up?

[00:19:30]Suddenly this fellow walks up to me. You can say we say hi.

[00:19:34]>> Okay, I need to speak to you.

[00:19:37]>> I need your advice. So I asked I asked I think so I was like I need advice. What should I do? So I told her like initially I told her >> see I don't intend to be the chocolate boy. I don't intend to be the, you know, nice guy. I want to go bad guy. I want to go bad guy. You know, bad guy is my prerogative. Like a villain.

[00:20:01]>> That's how I want to enter >> because that's what it should be.

[00:20:04]>> But two, but she told me >> hold on for two weeks and then flip.

[00:20:09]>> Yeah.

[00:20:10]>> Hold on for a month, two two weeks, 3 weeks, two like our first month because first month go under. If you want, if your intention is to go as far as you want, >> intention also under law.

[00:20:21]>> Yeah. Be quiet. Go unnoticed.

[00:20:24]>> If you go unnoticed, all the ones who get noticed stay below the line.

[00:20:27]>> Yeah. Because >> you can't I can't because I'm naturally not like that. There was a difference from their big boss and ours because everyone was celebrating.

[00:20:40]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:20:41]>> We have nothing to lose. I have nothing to lose. I'm going to big boss with everything gain.

[00:20:45]>> So two weeks. Two weeks people didn't notice me.

[00:20:48]>> Yeah. They didn't of him. But he wouldn't get out.

[00:20:53]So the thing is then suddenly it was like this O'Neal the aggressive badass rude boy rude boy rude boy comes out and people are like okay >> suddenly there's like you know okay this whole brigade of people being barging against me and all that stuff good I'm noticed >> I'm noticed and so I'm like I've never gone down three weeks captaincy one week captain It's going good. And in between there was like a huge thing that happened.

[00:21:26]>> Big boss Oscar moment. Oscar moment.

[00:21:27]>> I owned it.

[00:21:28]>> I owned it. I I owned it. That's my game.

[00:21:32]>> So it's like basically see I cried only in inside Big Boss's confession. Why?

[00:21:37]Because one more thing >> men can cry. Of course >> they should cry. What's wrong with boys crying? Obviously.

[00:21:43]>> So that's that's my built. My psychoanalytical approach is I won't break down. This is a false allegation.

[00:21:49]I won't break down. You cannot mentally break me. So what should I do next? I'm a lawyer, dude. I mean like I know what to talk. I know it's misandry.

[00:21:56]>> I know how progressive people were shocked that he he analyed it so well.

[00:22:03]I think people came to know of this word misandry for the first time see like I discussed this. This is the way to approach it you know because if you you know there's this thing called misandry.

[00:22:15]Everybody talks about misogyny. Nobody's talking about it. So this quick quick quick reference in case basically big episode there was an instance where some task was happening something happened and then I think reaction they were running towards something and was behind O'Neal was behind another hepp yeah he tripped I saw I tripped but accidentally so basically it was so obvious it was proved It approved and there was an apology also.

[00:22:50]>> There was there's few things that you know how to approach this when somebody is doing this. See the way I react with maturity is what the audience needs to see.

[00:22:57]>> It's not like you know there's no point of doing >> there was maturity.

[00:23:01]>> Yeah. There's there's there's a level of maturity that some people lack.

[00:23:04]>> And you ask for an apology and not just for yourself to everyone to all man all men born dead or alive because this is going to happen. And soon after that it became relevant again when when this dude uh you know take away took away his life during that bus incident.

[00:23:19]So but I was silent because at that point I didn't want to make this controversy back in. I'm not a friend of controversy.

[00:23:24]>> We don't want I don't like attention like that. No not for controversy. So that's why somebody comes to me I am the forki guy.

[00:23:33]>> So you know there's a stereotype about us.

[00:23:34]>> Yeah. What is your stereotype?

[00:23:35]>> We're druggies. We're gangsters.

[00:23:38]We're druggies. the gangsters and we're like rats, you know, like >> snobs. All that, all that is our stereotype. Okay, you'll get a piece of me now. You want a piece of me, I'll give you a piece of me. Education is why you are, you know, I'm friendly.

[00:24:06]Of course, everybody has a Everybody has a beast. Everybody has a beast.

[00:24:15]63 days. I got a tattoo. And guess what?

[00:24:21]Exactly. 63 days.

[00:24:27]63 days.

[00:24:30]I'm proud.

[00:24:31]I don't want to manipulate people's opinion.

[00:24:36]That's the Oscar moment. How did you resolve it?

[00:24:40]Everybody was invested in it. The whole world was invested >> and it was resolved well.

[00:24:43]>> It was resolved well. And I was like, you know, at the end of the day, >> it's a game. Fine. See, I left it after 100 days.

[00:24:49]>> Yeah. No, why not?

[00:24:50]>> For 100 days, I will play the game. You have 100 days you have to play.

[00:24:55]>> But I have to tell you, she was such a darling friend. Every week on the dot, my friend O'Neal, Pepsi Boy is in Big Boss.

[00:25:05]eliminated eliminated dude. I didn't even watch it when you were there but I did watch the Eminem.

[00:25:13]Oh, that was I so when I go to her place in Bangalore >> so loyally she did it you know we always chill >> you know what most of the food coaching people did that >> they did that loyally supported even coaching I know I know like it was like I that's what I wanted to be voice of foot coach coaching I got resourc school.

[00:25:53]Is that a first time experience education? No, I always go to my college as judge for things.

[00:26:05]Yeah. Yeah, I was >> I was Mr. Talentine.

[00:26:09]>> Yeah. 2006.

[00:26:10]>> I'm still the only law student to win talent like in terms of guys.

[00:26:14]>> Mr. Talent.

[00:26:14]>> Mr. Talent.

[00:26:15]>> Mr. I was a judge of it.

[00:26:17]>> I am Mr. Talentine. 2006. So there's only 5% of that in Big You need to be famous. Your face should be and I also am known as a chef. I won't call myself a chef all by myself. I ran a restaurant and then I did events around India. I was the first chef from Kerala to do an event in conservatory Bangalore which is the bougie bouges of bougie.

[00:26:52]>> So that's where I did 120 cars and I'm doing a beef event.

[00:26:56]>> Yeah. six of beef >> and that's that's what I do. So when you're from Kerala you have this owners you go somewhere else people ask you >> you come from Kerala's beef and paratha where's the best beef >> so I you know it's not about fried or stewed or curried we can also do many other things I smoked when I was doing brisketss nobody was doing brisketss see it's I'm I'm happy I curated it first time I curated it so whatever I'm doing I do all these storytelling sessions to preserve or conserve my history >> basically it all comes down back to photo. So that's why I so I found out a way >> this is what I have to tell to audience.

[00:27:34]I found out a way not to be a brain drain.

[00:27:36]>> You can use your brain >> and be in your place >> and do so much >> and do many things.

[00:27:42]>> Many things I agree. Uh what what Okay, now we'll come to Fort Kochi because Fort Kiam is something that will keep coming over and especially for people from there. What is it uh about Fort Kochi that makes you say this? Uh um but like you were born there. Yes. Your parents are from there.

[00:28:03]>> Yes. So basically so to give you an intro to right >> in a small 5 square kilometer radius there are over 25 30 >> 2.5 square km rad.

[00:28:14]>> 2.5 yeah 2.5 square km radius >> around 36 to 37 communities >> communities. Okay.

[00:28:19]>> Okay. Starting from you know you know obviously the the local people. So then there's people with uh lineage European lineage which is Dutch, Portuguese, uh British, the Anglo Indian, the Anglo Indian community. There's the Kung Kali community, there's the Kachi community, the trader communities, you know, folks that are um the what are they called the traders?

[00:28:42]>> Marvaris, you want me to do? So there's a lot of like 36 communities. You have different sorts of Quran Muslims and is not serious. It's a small place. And I'll tell you one thing. This is one thing you should you should have noticed too. You will not find one boring person from >> everyone's got personality.

[00:29:02]>> Everybody's a character.

[00:29:04]>> Sass.

[00:29:04]>> Everybody's a character.

[00:29:05]>> I love it. And everyone, everyone is, you know, somehow, you know, is into music, art, dance, food. So there's so much culture.

[00:29:15]>> Where does where does this global kind of aurora mentality come from? All the way in the car has always been in some way considered a little more aggressive or a little more traditional, a little more conservative. But when you come to for you become a little set of people, right? It's there's so much diversity.

[00:29:34]So we've grown up. Like for instance, I would go on a weekend for like like a a social or a prom, you know, a short skirt and a >> that's the only place you could wear short things.

[00:29:43]>> Yeah. And then the next day there would be an Anna from the temple coming to have pana.

[00:29:48]>> Yeah.

[00:29:48]>> Right. And then the next day you know that my neighbor would be sending biryani because it's you know eid or something. So the kind of cultural diversity not just in terms of religion right in terms of art forms as well is brilliant. So if you've come across people from fort kin true blue for kuchinites they're well spoken right they know their music and it's diverse it's not just western >> right like I used to grow up watching chitra chitra as well. So it is this hodgepodge of you know everything >> everything >> and and >> and that's the explosion I think tourists come into and they're like blown away by microcosm.

[00:30:24]>> Yeah. They're blown away by the logo.

[00:30:26]>> It's not just the place.

[00:30:28]>> I can summarize that. So when I do my storytelling sessions, right? So what I do is >> I'll tell them food coaching is all about magical real.

[00:30:34]>> Yeah.

[00:30:35]>> Something is there, some things are not there.

[00:30:38]>> You just see or make out of it. So that's how I started this.

[00:30:40]>> The history and the stories as well, right? It's crazy man. much of it going >> everything has a name like you go around school >> locals we're not going to say going by school >> the road you should check is Elinston Road >> you go to the others is Napia street >> Lily street so why it's the colonial part of town >> the locals have local history forkl which is attached to this No, you don't see a fort there, right? But there used to be a fort which is Santa Cruz. Oh, if you go if you step outside old that road is called tower road because there used to be a tower.

[00:31:34]>> The road cutting across is called river road because there used to be a river.

[00:31:38]Talvati was a river at that time.

[00:31:41]the history is there.

[00:31:42]>> You don't see it.

[00:31:43]>> Yes.

[00:31:44]>> You so that's how I believed in you know like this should be seen >> reviving some of these stories and folklor.

[00:31:51]>> Yeah. Which you are doing now. I've seen both of you and many many people in for Koji also uh react quite harshly when it comes to uh uh the place not being taken care of well by the tourists that come there especially around whether it be New Year's uh because the number of people that gather in this 2.5 square kilometer is insane and all of you have come out quite harshly with videos just being due to the sign as a silent protest.

[00:32:26]>> Protest due to the like obviously you know it's like there's like no two sides to a particular incident. You're either with the survivor or with the opera. So you should be obviously with the survivor. I have a voice. I use it.

[00:32:41]>> Yeah. Yeah. It's basically in terms of like uh see you can't be like >> what is that called certain section of the crowd cannot gatekeep a lot of things.

[00:32:51]>> Yeah.

[00:32:51]>> You have to let it out because for coach is about for community.

[00:32:56]>> There should be coexistence if you do not coexist >> and you feel there was no coexistence.

[00:33:01]>> Absolutely not.

[00:33:02]>> We are talking about >> we are talking about the coi absolutely I mean if if I did not feel that way >> you wouldn't stand there. I'm asking the one guy who protested.

[00:33:12]>> Yeah, >> I am the one dude who protested. I'm FC boy. I'm vote coach boy.

[00:33:16]>> He's vote coach boy. So the reason you felt like it was not a communitydriven uh endeavor.

[00:33:25]>> Absolutely not. So what I would say is I do not see I do not have a problem with the thing happening there. But you know when you sell kochi the other so you don't you this was my protest. You come here sell your stuff sell your dignity and leave. But you know take your trash with you.

[00:33:42]>> This is my idea. Take your trash.

[00:33:43]>> Even for bilal same thing.

[00:33:44]>> Take your trash with you. So whatever trash it is be it your perversions whatever it is take it with you. We do not resonate with it. We are not from that place where you know when somebody Kochi gets a bad name.

[00:33:54]>> Why?

[00:33:55]>> Yeah >> Kochi is not about one or two per people. I do not target people. So I'm not using names. But >> so this this is this is the thing. We do not you know resonate with the same attitude.

[00:34:06]>> No but that's the thing right. people who come to Fort K right whatever I'm saying even in terms of tourists or whatever right I mean so again this is a very commonly used term these days because of a meme but they lack the civic sense it's a tiny little place it's a tiny little town >> where right now a bunch of actually a lot of retired people live >> right most of us are also like working outside the city you know we keep shuttling but majority of the folks there are retired people and it is a lot of inconvenience for them because there's trash during New Year's There are people defecating in front of our doors.

[00:34:39]>> What are you saying? I am not joking, >> dude. I'm not kidding you.

[00:34:45]We woke up to Poop, pee, and >> beer bottles.

[00:34:51]I see how disgusting. It's like this, you know. So, I remember once people told me, so we have >> No wonder you saying no. I keep protesting after every New Year.

[00:35:05]It's a free program and once it's become you know once it's become the insta generation you want everyone everyone wants the video and you come all the way man burning >> come now you have two men burning ah >> yeah because it's good it's good split the crowd it's good so like this but it doesn't take away decentralize decentralize after Mumbai it became known to a lot more people >> but the problem is then somebody comes like for example this is what happened somebody comes and says oh you're Burning a Santa Claus fork's people do not know history.

[00:35:38]>> This is what the first thing that binary did was change the the dress of the pap.

[00:35:43]>> Dude, nobody burns that Santa Claus dress. It was shown in Mumbai. That's why. So the thing is that's the idea. But then you know the thing is I didn't see anybody standing up for question. I was like so many historians in this place, so many people in this place who have come and gone, so many people connected to art. Nobody has a protest against this. Why? So then when you say this, you're like, you're a local.

[00:36:11]>> You're barking at the wrong tree. But now I'm FC boy, which people know. So obviously I'm not barking for no reason.

[00:36:17]>> That's valid.

[00:36:17]>> There is a valid point in this. And then the other thing is I'm also an artist.

[00:36:22]>> So because I appreciate art.

[00:36:24]>> Yeah.

[00:36:24]>> But you know do art.

[00:36:26]>> Do art no problem.

[00:36:28]>> But then you are doing politics. When is art ever art after that point?

[00:36:32]>> See, you can you can do many things, but don't tinker with the history. You know, it's called history hijacking >> and it's called gentrification.

[00:36:38]>> Somebody else's history is bigger than yours.

[00:36:40]>> That's the you know, like I said, there's a stereotype about fourth question people. You're druggies. You're freaks.

[00:36:48]You are uneducated. So I come across as a different person. We're not the same breed. I'm from Fort Kin, but I'm not >> uneducated. I'm not just senseless freaking I am. It's basically representing a side of coin that has seen before and honestly movies are not doing any good for our case either. If you see the the waist character in a movie will be some see this thing about stereotype pop culture reference I use I love it yeah like that's all brilliant see obviously a lot of people who have not mentioned and then obviously there's also a thing which somebody else's exploit >> which is internalize cultural inferiority.

[00:37:51]>> You believe that there is this is local, >> this is posh, >> this is bougie.

[00:37:57]>> That's not what we need. We need like a sense of community.

[00:38:00]>> Yeah.

[00:38:00]>> Right. You all coexist.

[00:38:02]>> There's nobody like I'm your boss. I'm your dad.

[00:38:06]I'm yours.

[00:38:10]I'm a boss. That's the thing about coming to Ford, right? If there's like even you know stars or whatever, right?

[00:38:16]I think people who come to Fort Cochin get humbled >> get humbled >> right so there are people who are big stars and I'm not going to name anyone here but even people from you know outside of the malalum industry >> who have come here and expected to haven't got a certain you know attention nothing people go about their daily lives because you know what if you look at it >> every single fort coach fort coachite especially the earlier generation right >> you look at someone everybody is a somebody and in their own eyes they are their biggest star.

[00:38:47]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:38:50]>> So, we don't like my mom's a star.

[00:38:52]>> I am. I was born.

[00:38:54]>> We just there one breakaway. You keep doing stuff.

[00:38:57]>> But that is the greatest thing. Let me tell you now about for coach what I really like. Okay. See like I always believe I I keep saying this. This is quite controversial that I say I I believe that I I I'm born in a world of average >> and when I go to Fort Kochi, I don't feel that.

[00:39:09]>> Oh, >> you know what I love? Nice.

[00:39:13]>> We love it. We love it. That is why she's an honorary member of coach. Yeah, >> you are an honorary member. Basically, that just mean you with you just feel a certain level like you said and honestly what you are like professionally or your bank balance doesn't define you and that is >> and you don't judge by that either.

[00:39:41]>> Absolutely not. That is the thing I love about food coaching which we stay in ghettos >> difficult to you know >> we stay in ghettos you know like it's a cherry >> we all like from I can actually pass my drink to the neighbor >> that's how close we live >> and he might be somebody else some other community so it's like that we all coexist that's why it's dangerous also >> because there's so many and you get trapped in one of those >> finished but tell me how can how can what can people do or what can the government do to make this tourist issue better. Can they do anything else? Tell them. Tell them. Of course they can.

[00:40:14]Tell them what they can. Absolutely.

[00:40:16]Everywhere. Eat toilets.

[00:40:18]>> Eat toilets. Eat toilets everywhere.

[00:40:19]Simple things.

[00:40:20]>> You know you're expecting people, right?

[00:40:22]The corporation.

[00:40:23]>> How many people come?

[00:40:24]>> So statistics lacks lax >> on the new year's day in there so much.

[00:40:30]Remember once there was a stampede >> there was always a stampede. We don't step out of our houses. Thing is like come enjoy with civic sense though. So There's not enough seeorporation does not have a clue.

[00:40:57]I once cleaned one theater there.

[00:41:01]I cleaned it on my own initiative and I said corporation should do it.

[00:41:07]You should do it. I kept protesting till it happened.

[00:41:23]So obviously so my idea is like keep my place clean. You come enjoy this spirit.

[00:41:29]You can come have a drink in my place. I will give you my loop. Please don't sit in my front of my house.

[00:41:34]>> No, that's that's that's basic.

[00:41:36]>> Yeah, that's basic. That's that's basic >> super basic. Now tell me about after Okay. So for coachi music all of that what and uh the music connect that we spoke about right so now through college music happened then you left that went to Bangalore did your corporate thing and then you came back to mother Jane how was coming back into music?

[00:41:56]>> Uh coming back so for me it was like coming back home because I started off here in the music scene so I knew pretty much everyone and it's pretty much the same people that I hear still in the scene. So it was like coming back home for me. But obviously I got a little bit of a culture shock in terms of the kind of professional culture.

[00:42:16]>> I'm coming from you know the videos and the Qualcomms of the world where it's super professional.

[00:42:21]>> Right. Right. And then I come here and I'm in in the events and the music and the indie music scene >> because nobody ever calls back.

[00:42:37]>> Okay. No. Ah, I will get back tomorrow.

[00:42:41]Yeah, that's it. Tomorrow never comes.

[00:42:43]It's like a Bond movie, right? Tomorrow never dies. Tomorrow never comes.

[00:42:46]>> And yeah, I Yeah. So I think that way it was a huge culture shock for I remember having this conversation with you and I'm like >> how have you survived in this industry for so many years? Because >> for me it took me a long time to kind of figure that okay this is a totally different ball game. You got to play it in a language they understand and then I understood you know how you did what you did.

[00:43:09]>> Yeah. Yeah. It's not easy.

[00:43:10]>> It is not easy at all. So >> I mean at least at least television is a lot more professional in terms of I've been very lucky because I was I started out in corporate again corporate events and all of that.

[00:43:24]local certain capability.

[00:43:30]>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm a bit of a pain.

[00:43:32]>> You commented on my maturity.

[00:43:34]>> I I can tell you this incident >> how mature you were >> when that whole incident the fiasco happened. How >> see that's what when people expect you to be like a person who's broken down and you know whiny and all that stuff wimpy and all that stuff you give a >> someone insulting you on stage.

[00:43:52]>> So that's that that's what makes you like you know the only other person I call misses like Miss Britney Spears Miss Haras >> Miss Haridas.

[00:44:02]>> Yeah I remember even I call you >> everybody there was a lot of support at that point. I think a lot of your St. girls, everyone called because we were also like what the hell everyone stood >> it was a it but then for me it was I was just praying because I know the professional thing to do is then but then then I realized I'm well done I was impressed with myself was very impressive took a lot of control they're talking about this incident with um man star singer um but yeah and bygones right >> absolutely you know But then there is cue out of it that we can take inspiration because I always want to be on stage. I mean there's something like I'm also an MC you know always going on when you have my introduction I always do ladies and gentlemen boys and girls it's a boy that's what I do. So so I was like see you are the only person there's nobody else in what you do.

[00:44:57]Absolutely.

[00:45:01]So what happens is you know there's no retirement for you >> for people who want to do pursue your passions. There's no retirement now.

[00:45:08]>> Now this is life.

[00:45:09]>> Yeah. Which is incredible because a lot of people have been told a lot of fields have a a shelf life.

[00:45:16]>> Uh so I when I when I was young I'm sure it's the same for you guys when you think 40 is very old.

[00:45:23]>> Remember those days?

[00:45:24]>> Oh yeah. I apologize to all the women and the men whom I thought was old when they were.

[00:45:30]>> Yeah. So I thought 40 was so old. So my retirement plan set was set for 40.

[00:45:35]>> I retired at 40.

[00:45:37]>> Yeah. See that's what retirement plan 40.

[00:45:46]Yeah. So I'm like 20 years bonus. So suddenly I have to re-evaluate. You understand?

[00:46:09]Because suddenly I was like okay I got like you need to like get do something like you did. You quit your corporate job and reinvented. You did the same thing, right? So reinvention suddenly I'm like, "Oh, so this is not old."

[00:46:21]Right. We were just like misinformed.

[00:46:23]>> Yes. I restarted doing professional modeling after 40.

[00:46:27]>> Yeah.

[00:46:28]>> Right. I mean the last time I did it was when I was 21.

[00:46:31]>> Yeah. It's crazy.

[00:46:32]>> And so I think that I think right now I think that's the one thing even the people that I attract and the people that I whose energies I attract >> Yeah. important >> are basically the kind of people who do not put themselves in boxes. in boxes, >> right? I don't want to be restrained, right, by a title or by a particular type or whatever. I want to defy odds and that's one of the reasons we get along.

[00:46:54]>> We get along as well.

[00:46:55]>> So, I've known her for what, like 20?

[00:46:57]>> Yeah, over 26 26 years.

[00:46:59]>> I think 26 years. Yeah. From college.

[00:47:01]That's >> I've seen you since 26 years.

[00:47:04]>> Dude, do you remember that time you came as a devil?

[00:47:08]>> Oh, god. Fashion show.

[00:47:10]>> As a fashion show.

[00:47:11]>> Yeah. We couldn't school. There was a the school of college. There was a >> So the best outfits would go to the you know to the outside competition.

[00:47:21]>> Outside competitions. Yeah. Madumi.

[00:47:24]>> Yeah. Yeah. We got all of ours. I remember I I I went as devil.

[00:47:27]>> So you So the year you went as a devil.

[00:47:29]I was the angel.

[00:47:30]>> Angel. Angel.

[00:47:31]>> The exact opposite.

[00:47:32]>> Exact opposite because our theme was that >> we're talking about centric and centric model. We are model is a vibe dude. Yeah, >> see that was a name like centric like the you know that's that's you have like been always a smart >> absolutely smartig look at the number of people we still have >> very intelligent very intelligent different walks of life >> I'm still so close to a lot of the the the faculty yeah so like um sister Tessa's I think his fifth consecrated year uh I just sent a video for it a father latamus I'm close to still keeps in touch. I trying to get them on the show, but the seat might not be good for them to sit. So, I'm like, but we had a kickass time, a kickass batch, >> so many of them. We wanted to always ask people who are not from you get inside.

[00:48:39]So, we had competition, you know, that's all those and then public library competitions, we'll be meeting everybody from there. So this was always like when you go for these competitions you'll find the team from St. Jesus is the team to beat.

[00:48:49]>> Yeah >> dude the men used to be scared not the men the boys used to be scared to enter Stesus because there were also you know a lot of >> I never tried but I went there for competitions that's it and then my brothers also done a play and one first and all that stuff in St. Jesus. Yeah absolutely good days. I mean remember >> good old days.

[00:49:05]>> Yeah we used to go to competitions we meet people.

[00:49:07]>> I mean it's it's crazy. We have to talk about aging as well. I mean I'm not saying we're old 40 you know I'm 43 or 42. is similar.

[00:49:14]>> Yeah. So, we're all >> 40. Yeah. I'm 44 this month, actually.

[00:49:18]SO, >> 45, TOO. DAMN IT.

[00:49:21]>> She'll be 45.

[00:49:22]>> I tried to get one lesson there.

[00:49:24]>> P. If that makes you easy, is it like 43 this year?

[00:49:28]>> 43. 45 now.

[00:49:32]But what I'm saying is 45.

[00:49:38]What a what a what a switch. What what are you feeling now that you look back into this journey to 45? How are you feeling today?

[00:49:45]>> I think I'm feeling my best. And I'm not just saying this, you know, because it's a question asked to me, but but this is my, you know, healthiest and fittest phase of my life. So, for the first time in my life, I can do push-ups.

[00:49:57]>> Really, >> I've never been able to do a push-up.

[00:50:00]>> You know, I was strong. So, I'm a dancer, so I can, you know, my legs are strong, but I was never able to do a single push-up.

[00:50:06]>> Why?

[00:50:06]>> I didn't have my upper body strength.

[00:50:08]>> So, po right. Last year, this December actually, I first made my first push-up.

[00:50:15]>> Your first push-up.

[00:50:16]>> My first push-up. Ah, so >> when did you stop doing push-ups?

[00:50:20]>> I stopped doing push-ups just now. So I was huge. I was 180 kilos.

[00:50:23]>> Oh >> I was very huge and then I became 86 which was like skin and bone.

[00:50:27]>> Oh I want to see a picture of your 180. Send it to me.

[00:50:30]>> I do. I do. I do.

[00:50:31]>> What? How? When?

[00:50:32]>> So that was a long time ago.

[00:50:33]>> You remember?

[00:50:34]>> Yeah. So that's a different life. So you know the thing is that is like 2012 to 14 is when I started reducing that's when I actually got into food a lot >> to understand what I >> the boy who came and tagged me >> the 180y old huge dude so basically from there to bring to 86 and then it was >> so I had something called a metabolic syndrome so I had to correct it and then after that I went on a lifestyle change >> so I started gyming >> so that's when I started doing push-ups and that's when I started doing the lightness of my body like started started running and all the It's not like I didn't have activity >> I used to be a cricketer >> no >> in school college till >> even with the 180 >> oh fully active it was this metabolic >> I was a school hero for example kala three times >> oh god >> all of that so that way you know >> extraoral >> the the last thing that you would talk about is my figure >> nobody would even did that bother you >> absolutely not I was at my confidence you know the best >> I could do any everything that anybody else could do I mean like there was nothing nothing like that >> so then When did that become a problem?

[00:51:37]>> When I started practicing here, so when I came back here, this is a very judgmental perverted way of looking at people.

[00:51:45]>> They have only two three things to talk about. There's not about >> what were these two three things? talk about my brain because I was like so corporate. Then I went to then you know I took a break started writing.

[00:51:55]>> So there was two three two three things I I had to do >> and UPS.

[00:52:05]>> After that one of my clients while I was working here he was in then they took me there >> and then I got a job there >> and then I was there. So in terms of my you know after that after this new body that I had which is like uh the 86 kilo >> I was like uh you know appreciating my neck >> uh a lot more and then a lot of things like that >> your jaw even jawline all that stuff. So all these things and then I was traveling around the world.

[00:52:35]>> So it was fun in my 30s >> I would say the dirty 30s I enjoy the most.

[00:52:40]>> Yeah you had a good time. So I had a good time 30 to 40 I was like um partying I was doing many things many things >> but in between I had fun.

[00:52:47]>> So you're saying the lesser weight basically made you have more.

[00:52:50]>> No no no no absolutely not. I had fun even when I was like huge.

[00:52:55]>> The thing was just perspective of people who were around me changed.

[00:52:58]>> So that's what but then I had that advantage when I went to big boss.

[00:53:02]>> You underestimate people who are huge.

[00:53:04]M.

[00:53:04]>> So, so in a game that where you have to use your brains, if you've already underestimated your opponent, >> you're done.

[00:53:12]>> So, that's how it is. And for some physical games, you know, in Big Boss, >> I proved I was the fastest in terms of timing, >> doing something with balance.

[00:53:20]>> So, it requires your brain also.

[00:53:22]>> Absolutely. Everything requires.

[00:53:23]>> So, that's like no, nobody's going to intimidate me, bully me with fat and all that stuff. I got ragged in law college, nothing. But in one month it stopped because I was again again local.

[00:53:35]>> You can talk your way through anything.

[00:53:36]>> I can talk. I can sell myself. I don't need a PR.

[00:53:39]>> I will sell myself. This is my >> about your gyming. What?

[00:53:42]>> Oh, no. Tell us about our gyming. We have to recently we had this conversation. Okay.

[00:53:49]I put up a post saying, "Oh, this matches my shirt."

[00:53:52]>> Yeah.

[00:53:57]And I said, "I went to the gym to become 55 and now I'm 65. I'm 60 kilos. I went to the gym to become 55. Now I'm 65 within." She's like, "Nobody understands that." She's like, and then it's it's a reality because you go work out, you continue eating the way you eat, you're going to gain muscle, you know, you're going to gain some weight.

[00:54:18]>> But tell me, you recently came to working out.

[00:54:21]>> I've been working out since last year.

[00:54:22]>> Okay. Why so last 2 minutes?

[00:54:25]>> You know, >> she never had to. She's got this envious.

[00:54:29]What a blessed. I'm so I hate her.

[00:54:31]>> She's also one of the people I hate in my life, but she's just naturally blessed with the bestest figure in the world. Like just blessed tag. I would tag her.

[00:54:40]>> Yeah, my mom tagged really well when I was born. So yeah, personality develop we didn't compete.

[00:55:03]She was one year senior in Bangalore.

[00:55:07]So it's crazy, dude. And then you know she's a mother of nine. She's nyear-old boy mommy. Okay.

[00:55:22]So basically after I turned 40 >> right I realized that okay things are a little different but not physically not physically mentally I realized that I was going batshit crazy and >> it's called pmenopause.

[00:55:36]>> Yes. technically that's the phase of life you know of per menopause >> and I thought I'm promoting it actively >> yeah I thought I thought there was something wrong with it >> right and then I read up about it and then people said that the only way to go about doing it is to work out >> basically do jumping jacks do push-ups that's the only way to fix your mental state when you're in your 40s apparently >> not the only way I mean uh but one of >> which 40s plus for boys is like men who paw >> men who p They they don't seem to pause by the way.

[00:56:08]>> No, no, no. We we tend to be a more mature version of ourselves. Yeah.

[00:56:14]So there's this thing you know there's an onus on a guy when you are like educated next thing is like but this is the thing men who pause is like you know okay I paused whatever I'm doing now I'm going to do now I'm going to do whatever I want to do in a very nice way. So I actually in my 40 like that's the last time I had a relationship >> when you before the pause or after >> after the pause after the pause there was no relation like single >> single then now how are you feeling after the workouts?

[00:56:49]>> So I think it's the best right I think for me like I work out to stay sane >> because I'm a mom right I can't >> You're already mad.

[00:56:58]>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm already like over stimulated all the time. And I can't afford to be one of those parents who goes back home >> and, you know, uses my kid as a punching bag.

[00:57:09]>> We've been through that. We've all been through that.

[00:57:11]>> So, I don't want to be that person. And I realized that I was becoming that person. I, you know, when I'm angry, I shout at him, right? I'm just I'm just like screaming at him all.

[00:57:20]>> But you called it.

[00:57:21]>> Yeah.

[00:57:22]>> You realized I I was becoming that person. And I'm like, okay, I can't be this person. And I started working out.

[00:57:28]And the days I work out, there is a significant difference in terms of the way I behave and who I am. Yeah. So >> I don't have a choice but to work out.

[00:57:36]So now it's just to take the craziness away and along with that I can do a few push-ups.

[00:57:40]>> Push-ups now. So it's a bit of a flex.

[00:57:43]>> Absolutely.

[00:57:43]>> And also I think you know this right? I think my favorite characters right one of my favorite pop culture like characters is Lara.

[00:57:53]>> Yes. So weird.

[00:57:56]>> That is something that I love. So I want to be like someone like >> someone who can kick someone. I want to be able to I want to if someone comes to me >> physically. She's already Lara Coft.

[00:58:07]>> I want to be able to you know throw a punch if I need to.

[00:58:11]>> Are we getting there?

[00:58:11]>> I need to.

[00:58:12]>> Are we getting there? Are we getting there?

[00:58:13]>> Oh yeah. She's like I'm getting there.

[00:58:15]I'm getting there. Lara Croft.

[00:58:17]>> Yeah. So So >> Trina Jackson.

[00:58:21]So I want to fight as well and I'm you know I've started I have a personal trainer. So along with cross training I have doing some kickboxing >> a little bit. Yeah I'm learning.

[00:58:31]>> Yes. No more tag. No more tag. No more tag combat sports.

[00:58:39]Combat sports. I have to live up to my coaching gangster. You got it. God.

[00:58:58]Oh yeah. There's like two things that people will ask. First thing I do to people is I'm from Portin but don't ask me.

[00:59:05]>> But don't ask me.

[00:59:06]>> What do they ask you? Obviously you know the first question is absolutely see okay from like a friend.

[00:59:36]So the other thing is next next thing is next thing is vindalu which is possible.

[00:59:40]So everybody who knows me who's a good friend of mine will come home have mom's vindaloo fight over our mom's what is going on >> dude again everybody >> remember what we did >> you don't know how to have a simple meal or what no >> every meal is lavish >> dude you know what we had for now so we had like a little bit of a cook off >> between it wasn't a cook off it was something just like spontaneous so I was like okay I'll make something and he's like yeah I'm making some stuff let's do something together.

[01:00:10]>> So I made a Finnish salmon soup >> which I just learned you know you know just casually casually learned from >> Finnish salmon soup.

[01:00:18]>> I made friends with a chef in Finland.

[01:00:20]>> No she it's a she >> and she gave me this recipe so I was like okay I've got to try it. So I was like I actually got Norwegian salmon.

[01:00:29]>> Oh wow. We get it in >> Yeah. We went and got it together and I needed dill leaves. Okay. I tried everywhere I couldn't finally last resort I called up Edgar Edgar >> from either >> well I was doing other things that day I was doing a roast >> so he got me those leaves and I made it and it turned out good you made roast the first that was the first course and then to the second course >> the roast chicken >> roast chicken roast chicken >> yeah so this is like >> no only one course I did all the other courses of course of course so the chef is here >> so I did a roast chicken with uh green onions and uh cherry tomatoes.

[01:01:09]>> Oh, >> so the whole chicken roast for so so long.

[01:01:13]>> I made this particular salt called you know that's a herb salt.

[01:01:16]>> Rosemary, thyme and salt and curry leaves.

[01:01:19]>> Curry leaves. Curry leaves. Oh >> and then you put that salt and dry brine the chicken.

[01:01:24]>> Oh you >> I do many things. Spatchcock it.

[01:01:27]>> Spatch it.

[01:01:33]I can't cook but I know everything. So this is the thing. So >> whatever you think of I will actually find that and I used to do that. That's how my restaurant can get everything different cuts of pork, beef, everything. And then I did a ribeye steak.

[01:01:47]>> Yeah. So after roasty steak for everybody made a vindalu stew.

[01:01:56]So his mom her mom so we actually cooked for our moms. Mom is there. They made they made us lunch. So we made >> Yeah.

[01:02:05]>> And at the end of it there was a local version of custard also that your mom made. There were like some four or five courses.

[01:02:12]>> My gosh.

[01:02:13]>> And we were feast.

[01:02:24]So is used to giving food to people.

[01:02:29]There'll always be food.

[01:02:32]So a lot of people are there like for >> that's true for everyone in for coaching by the way. I know I know food whenever you come home.

[01:02:40]>> I'm scared to go to houses with food and they'll force you. You have force me force.

[01:02:48]Even my mom loves Okay. They have like a I love her mom. Uh you know they have a thing going. You know they love each other. It's I love her.

[01:02:56]>> Yeah. I feel a little left out when they're together. I was Oh yeah, she tells you story.

[01:03:02]>> No like even for you know some function Ranjani serving. I'm like mom I serve you food. No no no Ranjani already served me.

[01:03:09]>> Yeah it is done.

[01:03:10]>> Okay she's like I shouldn't drink only one glass of wine.

[01:03:20]Mom's happy but she's such a happy body which is what I really like. very traditional Hindu that I love that audience I love that audience I got them after big boys such a lovely audience >> very sweet what I'm saying is of the beautiful 902 you Santa Barbara.

[01:04:03]Such cool people like Yeah. In coach and all the moms, all the moms are kind of very cool dancing, jing like all of your parents, right? JESUS.

[01:04:23]Our terrace is our house party. It's >> so cool.

[01:04:29]All the girls back in the day. It's the Goan good friends with us.

[01:04:47]There was this already poper.

[01:04:51]There's so many things that only only dedicated to people from only if you knew somebody from you would get exposed to.

[01:04:58]>> Yeah. Because like English movies lived that life, right? So did you have this whole dating system where you could go do you have that?

[01:05:13]>> No, that was that was just rumors.

[01:05:16]So basically I think even you know within the community that I grew up which is the Angloian community >> dating was not like openly encouraged but within the community if you find a good match and if the parents are not at loggerheads loggerheads right which is very yeah yeah very common but uh but uh yeah if the parents are okay it's it's then it's okay you know it's cool you get to you know date you get to walk around you get to go with your date for a dance yeah >> so Coming to that right like my mom was telling me that like when she was young >> in her 20ies they used to have this group called the Moonlight Hoppers.

[01:05:54]>> Oh.

[01:05:55]>> So what they used to do is that time there was no portable stereo you know music systems and stuff like that >> and they used to walk so from the the beginning of the beach till the water it was almost a 1 km walk. What you see now is not the beach that we grew up with seeing as well. So way back it was like like a long walk. So they would actually go, you know, this huge bunch of people would go to the near the water. They would, you know, take wood, light up, you know, roast something in the fire.

[01:06:25]They would sing. So there'll be a bunch of people singing. Then there'll be some, you know, people dancing. There'll be >> in on the beach >> on the Fort Coachin beach. Wow.

[01:06:34]>> And this group was called Moonlight the Moonlight Hoppers. Oh, this is 19 >> this was this must have been 1950s 1960s. See I'm actually doing a series of characters. She used to I have she's she's 80 I'll tell you she used to be part of a girls only band >> okay >> in for coach called the liberators.

[01:07:03]>> This was in 1950s or 60s. She's a drummer.

[01:07:05]>> She was a Oh my god. That was an all girl band.

[01:07:08]>> All girl bands and no in the 60s. So in the 1972 I have a poster >> St. Tasilla girls they were called the heartthro >> they actually pungu competition >> and there is like it's an old girl band it's called ward rock >> in the >> 1972 I have a poster.

[01:07:30]>> I don't think we are that cool now.

[01:07:31]Yeah, I'm telling you they are very progressive. We had people look up to.

[01:07:35]It's not like we are the first people who are progressive or we like the generation.

[01:07:41]I can look up to them.

[01:07:44]I can look up to him. My grandfather's everybody's artistic.

[01:07:47]>> Everybody's done everything.

[01:07:50]We grew up to that culture, you know.

[01:07:53]>> So, do you think we're regressing?

[01:07:55]>> I definitely think we a little bit, but that's what we're trying to regress a lot. We're not regressing. We are like there's so many other cultures that have come and taken. So it's beginning like this is beginning to dilute dilute.

[01:08:07]Yeah.

[01:08:09]>> Because now the world is a small place.

[01:08:12]It's all leveled.

[01:08:14]Everybody's on the phone. So there's access for examp people are connected before carnival became a thing because that is part of the parade.

[01:08:45]Yeah, >> he is like the FC boy I know of the 80s.

[01:08:52]There'll always be FC boys. Somebody else who will come later. So we are so proud.

[01:08:59]>> They will have so many opinions. They're so proud of it.

[01:09:02]>> That's the spirit for you. You ask a people person about Fort >> even if it's an auto dude or whatever it is, he will tell you so much.

[01:09:11]Everybody's so proud of her.

[01:09:12]>> There's so many characters, right? So this lady that we were talking about, she's a drummer. She's an 80y old 80year-old drummer and she still drums.

[01:09:19]>> She's still drums. What do you say?

[01:09:21]>> Yeah, she can still drum, but she's part of the choir. I'm actually covering her and all that. So a lot of things like this, Uncle Rufus >> who got featured in football >> by you know coach is always known >> in the community for music, for art. My mom represented Kerala in hockey.

[01:09:43]>> What?

[01:09:44]>> Yeah.

[01:09:44]>> What?

[01:09:45]>> Yeah. She played for the state team.

[01:09:48]>> I still do theater.

[01:09:52]My brother directs. We'll we'll keep it alive. Maybe seven people will come for other things.

[01:09:58]>> So every person there is a character.

[01:09:59]But 600 people. But I'm saying we're doing it without expecting anything >> because it's for our place.

[01:10:06]We grew up >> like that. So you've all both of you like like you've lived how how long have you been in Bangalore now?

[01:10:12]>> 22 years.

[01:10:13]>> 22 years. Uh and you've done your fair share of doing the rest of the world and coming back to Canada. Back to home.

[01:10:19]Will you be coming home or what's the what's the scene?

[01:10:21]>> Right now I feel that I come home very often because my mom's here uh and I need to keep so I'm here like every one one month or every year.

[01:10:30]>> What is it that you miss the most when you're back in Bangalore? How's Bangalore life?

[01:10:33]>> See for me I think I think he's come home. I think I've created a mini fort coach.

[01:10:38]>> Really? Yeah.

[01:10:41]>> It's a gated community and then she's the only fortune of that community.

[01:10:48]>> In my little world, I'm the queen. No, like they say >> you can take fourth question. You cannot take out.

[01:10:54]>> You can take you out of question but cannot take question out of you.

[01:10:57]>> Absolutely.

[01:10:58]>> So for me, I mean I I don't really miss uh because I'm here all the time as well. I shuttle but uh yeah. So, and like I said, I've created a little for coach in there.

[01:11:07]>> So, it works works out.

[01:11:08]>> It works out.

[01:11:09]>> Okay. Now, we'll come to the other the big elephant in the room, which is you're the only one married.

[01:11:15]>> Oh my god. I'm going to get singled out now. Okay. But, but I have some things to say as well.

[01:11:19]>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like, if you were to tell us suggest, you have to suggest.

[01:11:28]>> You think you should get married?

[01:11:31]>> I would never say that.

[01:11:33]>> Wow. And he both of you know me well. I would never say that but yeah go for it.

[01:11:37]Go for it.

[01:11:38]>> Yeah. No I want to know tell us about the pros and cons of marriage.

[01:11:44]>> Right. Yeah. No this is not a spot but uh but yeah I think see >> marks marriage takes.

[01:11:54]>> How long have you been married?

[01:11:55]>> I've been married for 16 years.

[01:11:57]>> Okay. Was it arranged love?

[01:11:59]>> It was no arranged marriage for me.

[01:12:01]>> No love.

[01:12:02]>> Yeah. So I I met him at NVIDIA when we >> met. Yeah.

[01:12:07]>> Corp. Yeah. So office dated. Yeah. I was I was HR. He was an engineer. So typical. I wasn't supposed to. But I told my boss first thing. I'm like, "Hey, >> can I date someone to the office?"

[01:12:18]>> I've met somebody and he's a Catholic.

[01:12:19]I'm a Catholic dude.

[01:12:22]How can I let this go? Either I quit.

[01:12:24]>> You have to You have to speak like Jamaicans. We're Catholics.

[01:12:27]>> Catholics.

[01:12:28]>> So difficult to find a boy, dude. And parents will be happy. So I was like okay I told my boss I was like okay this is either I quit you know I either quit or you know that's >> so he's like okay I you know really appreciate the fact that you know you're cander so sure you know as long as you're professional about it so I worked at Nvidia with him working there as well and I kept kept my end of the bargain but yeah coming back to your question I marriage takes a lot of work >> a lot sort of work >> see But the thing is you evolve.

[01:13:07]>> You evolve. Both of you evolve. So, and both of you change along the way as well. So, it's about you know also taking that pause and making sure you kind of come back together because if you're only going through life, right?

[01:13:21]If you're just, you know, you can grow apart.

[01:13:24]>> So, it's about taking that pause and ensuring that you're also kind of growing, >> realigning, realigning.

[01:13:30]>> Yeah. So you have to do that because otherwise it's a lot of time and you know life goes by you just grow in different ways and then it's before you know it it's easy to lose track of >> it's very easy especially when you have you know busy lives right and in you know different things happening so families as well right there's the added complicated of families for us Indian families >> so um so yeah I think it's about that constant realigning and working on it's very easy to give up >> right and uh you know every married couple has faces in their life where they think that okay is this >> what's the best thing about it >> uh best thing about >> being married >> about married is about being married is that see you have someone to come home to >> that's a comforting >> yes at the end of the day right you have someone to pick up the call and say that okay if you're you know messed up or something right some you had really bad day you can say that hey you know what I had a bad day can you just pick me up >> you know I'm an independent woman but there are there are those days >> where I want to you know feel a little pampered. I want someone to pick me up.

[01:14:32]I drive otherwise I just I mean but there are those days. So that's the best part about it. And of course for me >> not you guys for me also one of the best uh phases in my life was becoming a mother.

[01:14:45]>> Oh yeah.

[01:14:46]>> So I did not want kids >> for the longest time. So I was you know like Ranjan one of those people who kept saying that I don't want kids >> and then something snapped after after a few years >> and I was like uh I think my it was when my sister had a baby >> and then I held the baby for the first time and I was like I don't like this. I was like, "The baby's peeing on me now, you know." And then I started spending a little more time with her. I realized that damn that little thing, you know, when they left, I was like, >> "Okay." And then that's when I started thinking about it and you know that's that's what happened.

[01:15:24]>> But you seem very like I know I obviously uh know enough about your life, but it's it's it's nice to hear because it's something I usually always say why aren't you married? So I'm always like why ARE YOU MARRIED?

[01:15:45]WHY ARE YOU MARRIED?

[01:15:46]>> WHY SHOULD I ASK YOU? I understand you.

[01:15:48]I feel you, brother. I know. I know. I know. I know.

[01:15:51]>> Dude, another thing that married people do is right till the time, okay, I'm sorry married people, but this is the truth. Okay, so um as soon as you're married, so till you're married, they'll be like when are you getting married and all of that. the day of welcome to the club.

[01:16:06]>> Welcome to the club like idiots, right? So, so a lot of people do that.

[01:16:12]>> Yeah, I see so many people cuz I travel so much, right?

[01:16:27]Wherever I go and this has changed very rarely will one or two people say ah 99.99 people who are married have told me that I am smart and I'm doing the right thing.

[01:16:56]But then there's like so many goals, right? You have like so many goals and the marriage is not even part of that goal >> for us.

[01:17:03]>> Why is marriage a goal?

[01:17:04]>> Exactly.

[01:17:05]>> Collateral damage.

[01:17:06]>> For them goals set by the society.

[01:17:09]>> Ah that's yeah no that's the thing right. So after a certain age right there is a there's a phase that which is set by society right so that's the next progressive >> action for you after you cross off one.

[01:17:22]So it doesn't end there by the way right for me I got married then it was like okay when are you having a baby? So I didn't succumb to that. I had a baby when I felt like having a baby. But it doesn't end there, >> dude. It never ends.

[01:17:33]>> What is after that?

[01:17:34]>> The next question is when are you not when are you having the next baby?

[01:17:37]Because first baby >> and what you're doing is a disservice to your child by not having another baby.

[01:17:47]I'm like >> she were not coming here. I was the only child till 9 till then they had got question.

[01:17:56]No no no no we were far away.

[01:18:02]So the thing is basically I used to sleep with my mom and dad till I ate till I ate salad.

[01:18:05]>> This guy was a kebab. No no I was like basically wonder how they have a baby.

[01:18:09]>> Exactly. So >> so I didn't know. So like I was literally being the the contraceptive in between. So >> for 9 years for 9 years.

[01:18:19]>> Yeah. So then so no no not nine I was 14 when when he was born. So I was there till 13 years and then I moved out. So like two years >> the moment I got out >> my brother happened next year and then I was in yeah so I didn't want to like you know >> so that's how it was you know I'm like literally I did a stand up I said that I am the condom.

[01:18:47]>> Yeah you're the condom. 14 years >> I was there for 13 years effectively.

[01:18:52]>> But then you know that's also another thing. So I have actually literally fathered my brother.

[01:18:57]>> I can imagine. Yeah.

[01:18:58]>> From the ninth time when I was 14.

[01:19:00]>> Yeah. His name is also interesting.

[01:19:02]>> I put the name.

[01:19:04]>> Nobody calls it. It's a French name because we call him dad is like from a Hindu family is like from a Hindu family and even he his dad was like a little different.

[01:19:25]So basically if you throw a stone it'll fall on some. So he was like you know determined.

[01:19:32]So like I'm like so happy. No, that too.

[01:19:38]>> That too.

[01:19:39]>> So we call him DA2. That's his hip-hop name.

[01:19:40]>> DA2.

[01:19:42]Next time we'll catch up with DA2.

[01:19:45]>> Okay. Like is you know the name will be different. Everything should be very for coach, right? So I like I'm very happy with you know people who can get married and like take care of themselves.

[01:19:56]>> Yeah. No. Full respect.

[01:20:01]Yeah. It's all about choice. I mean, we might make fun of each other for fun.

[01:20:05]But I mean, like I said, for me, I don't know about marriage, but I think having children is probably one of the biggest biggest things that happen in the world.

[01:20:12]I do it because I don't do it because I cannot do it cuz it's too much responsibility and I am not willing to take that responsibility. I can't even take care of myself.

[01:20:20]>> People who know that shouldn't and shouldn't be pressurized to do it because you're, you know, getting in and other messed up >> human beings. You're bringing more people into that. See, >> now you're already answerable to yourself.

[01:20:32]>> Yeah. And the world already has enough crazy >> dude. So if someone asks me this question, this is what I tell them. I tell them that are you, you know, are you, you know, going to put yourself, you know, this person has to be above everything. Huh.

[01:20:47]>> Every time.

[01:20:48]>> Yeah.

[01:20:48]>> Right. Are you willing to do that? If you're willing to do that, yes. I mean, I I I've always told my friends this because it is a huge massive responsibility and >> absolutely.

[01:20:58]>> Yeah.

[01:20:58]>> But well done.

[01:20:59]>> Oh, thank you. Of course, I'm very happy that both of you came.

[01:21:06]Thank you so much. We spoke so much about and I think the one message that we need to leave a good message.

[01:21:15]>> Stop pooping and being >> that's when your stereotypes get true.

[01:21:18]>> Yeah, absolutely.

[01:21:20]>> So, we love Fort Kochi. Let's protect Fort Koji. Got some amazing people. A lot of them are our friends.

[01:21:26]It's got great life, great culture and >> non stereotype. Yeah. Right. I mean that's for everywhere.

[01:21:32]>> We live above just just have fun and celebrate and Yeah.

[01:21:43]Next. What is your next plan in life?

[01:21:44]>> So yeah, sorry. I'm like I want to invite you. So I'm doing things at I want to come on.

[01:21:49]>> Here you go. I need I need to sign this for you. You should. Have you seen a forki? No.

[01:21:54]>> So that's the fort and then people want people want a postcard always, right? So this is the old stamp from the Kochi.

[01:22:01]>> That is so cool.

[01:22:02]>> And this is the fort from 1677.

[01:22:05]>> Those are my stories. It's also my notes.

[01:22:06]>> So this is Oh, that's is that your trail?

[01:22:08]>> That is my trail in J.

[01:22:10]>> Oh, >> so that's a dark trail. Is a spook trail.

[01:22:12]>> This is the spook trail.

[01:22:13]>> And this No, this one is also a spook trail.

[01:22:14]>> Okay. Trail.

[01:22:15]>> Yeah, I have two.

[01:22:16]>> Oh, so this became very popular.

[01:22:19]>> This is I saw that. Yeah. The Jew one is boss obviously.

[01:22:25]>> Absolutely. We're doing things differently >> storytelling session at night. I remember she she told me about it. We will connect with maybe we'll do a we'll do something.

[01:22:37]>> Yeah, absolutely. I'm inviting you.

[01:22:38]>> No, I will be there soon. Thank you.

[01:22:42]Coach, we'll chill out.

[01:22:43]>> We we'll catch up in my favorite spot is now Francis. She's going to be singing there.

[01:22:48]>> We've got a few favorite spots.

[01:22:51]>> That's the wis. Yeah, it's a very cool spot. Come hang out. Uh uh coaching club seagull.

[01:23:00]>> I love Seagull. Peppa House.

[01:23:02]>> You should check out my house also.

[01:23:04]>> My house.

[01:23:05]>> Oh, I've not been.

[01:23:06]>> Yeah. A lot of places like that.

[01:23:07]>> You've not been there.

[01:23:08]>> It's my house. My house. My house. My house.

[01:23:12]>> That's in.

[01:23:14]What does it mean?

[01:23:15]>> So, it's just >> What is it? Food.

[01:23:17]>> It's a bar restaurant. Yeah.

[01:23:21]Oh, okay.

[01:23:24]And it's good food like you get like a velocity kind of set.

[01:23:30]Okay. Bye.

[01:23:39]Chin talks.