MAHA News [5.8] RFK Combats SSRIs, Hantavirus, De-Prescribing, DOJ Targets Meatpackers

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[00:02:29]Welcome to Maha News episode, May 8th.

[00:02:36]In today's show, we shall be discussing uh SSRI RFK Jr. going on a crusade against the anti-dopressants. And amazingly, amazingly, the establishment and the mainstream media think that's a bad thing.

[00:02:53]>> Mhm.

[00:02:55]>> Probably because so many of them are on them. And uh also haunt virus, the new fat disease that's going around the uh well the only thing that's going around is the internet because there's only like three people that have gotten it.

[00:03:16]>> Five maybe.

[00:03:19]>> So the only place Honda virus is going around is our TV screens.

[00:03:25]And then uh to finish up, we're going to discuss some insurance news. Apparently, there's a new billing code to uh pay doctors for deprescribing medication.

[00:03:39]>> Say what?

[00:03:40]>> Say what? A new CMS billing code for deprescribing.

[00:03:44]That's actually kind of awesome. Uh and we'll finish up talking about them meat packers.

[00:03:50]>> A doctor could make a whole career about deprescribing. I mean like and have business lined out the door >> there. I mean we need incentives for not prescribing or deprescribing.

[00:04:06]So that's I mean that's >> the crux of changing the whole system right there.

[00:04:13]>> Yeah.

[00:04:14]>> Doc still gets paid not pushing out pills. So chat says they said that on the ship the captain stated the first man who died died of causes not related to haunt virus.

[00:04:34]Wow. Flashbacks to 2020.

[00:04:37]>> Yeah.

[00:04:38]>> He probably died of I don't know >> fell into >> Oh, see yours was kind of nice. I was like gruesome. I was like, he fell into a propeller, >> nashed, mangled.

[00:04:54]>> Still haunt virus.

[00:04:56]>> PCR tests. Hand them out like candy.

[00:04:59]Everybody's got haunt virus now. Oh my god. All right, let's start off with uh our SSRI crusade. So, announcing new initiatives, RFK Jr.

[00:05:09]continues to push for Americans to discontinue anti-depressants.

[00:05:14]The pills will not make you happy.

[00:05:17]Sorry, I'll shut up. Go ahead.

[00:05:20]>> Uh they might they might help for a moment, but you know over time over time is the problem. Uh HHS is moving towards shared decision decision-making frameworks that treat selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors SSRS as one option emphasizing informed consent and explicit offramps when clinically appropriate.

[00:05:46]And uh CMS plans reimbursement pathways for clinician time during tapering and substance abuse and mental health services administration modules are anticipated to train deprescribing and risk communication skills.

[00:06:05]>> And apparently the mainstream media says that's a bad thing.

[00:06:11]Reuters exclusive. Kennedy's health officials explored US ban of some widely used anti-depressants. Sources say >> I I want to know how much of Reuters um advertising income is from pharmaceutical.

[00:06:29]>> I bet you could look that up if it's public. It might not be.

[00:06:32]>> Yeah. Um, according to anonymous sources, their interests centered on specific treatments within a class known as SSRI, such as Zolaf, Prozac, and Lexapro.

[00:06:48]Uh, could be fake news, you know, it could just be fake, but maybe.

[00:06:54]And then this is the kicker from MSNBC.

[00:06:59]RFK Jr.'s dangerous crusade against anti-dopressants. dangerous crusade.

[00:07:06]>> Yeah.

[00:07:07]>> The challenge facing Americans struggling with mental health is not over prescription but insurance barriers.

[00:07:18]>> What?

[00:07:19]>> Not overprescription.

[00:07:24]>> Yeah, they absolutely are overprescribed.

[00:07:27]>> Oh yeah.

[00:07:29]and they're overprescribed with no no discussion from the doctor about the future like hey let's just try this for 6 months 12 months couple years and then work on offramping it no they just say hey get on this you'll feel better and what do you want me to take it for the rest of my life yes says the doctor yes you are stuck with Miranda, our friend Miranda wrote this article and she says she's roughly one of the 20% of American adults who struggles with depression.

[00:08:14]And oh no, RFK wants people to stop taking antidepressants that she takes >> and she >> Go ahead. Oh, I was going to say I I am I mean I thousand% uh I'm in favor of helping people get off of uh SSRIs. I am kind of concerned about like the side effects though. I mean it's from what I from what I understand it's not that easy to just stop taking them. Like there are for some people some lingering side effects that are pretty difficult to deal with. So, it would be nice if we had like a an off-ramp like this will help your body adjust.

[00:08:57]>> Jessica, if you don't mind sharing, how was the process of weaning yourself off?

[00:09:03]You weaned yourself off of three, taking three different antidressants about five years ago. Yeah. if you don't mind sharing or or anybody in the comments share some kind of direct experience about um how much were you taking, how long were you taking it for, and what was the process like? Did you go cold turkey?

[00:09:23]Did you just uh slowly like cut your tablets in half and do that for a while?

[00:09:28]Did you, you know, um slowly get yourself off? just want some uh want some comments on that so we can get into this discussion. But yeah, I mean I don't I don't know if I would say outright ban them because maybe in a very slight circumstance there could be use for it for just a very short amount of time in a very small dose.

[00:09:59]But uh yeah, it's just let's take it forever. Let's take it all the time and stack them, right? Let's take this antid-depressant with this antiscychotic medication with this anti-bipolar medication. And then when you're trying to get off of it, um heart palpitations because because really the the idea with SSRIs, serotonin selective re-uptake inhibitor. So, it's trying to basically get your brain in the serotonin pathways to reuse the serotonin again. And when you take SSRIs for a while, it's it's gets you up to baseline, but your brain becomes dependent on it and doesn't start doesn't produce or go through that serotonin re-uptake process normally.

[00:10:48]So, your brain's serotonin levels start to drop. And over time you take you have to take the SSRI just to get up to normal up to where where you were when you started. So your brain almost becomes dependent on it for that serotonin process and then if you stop taking the SSRI your brain levels of serotonin are way down here and it can start causing all kinds of nervous system problems. So you know your cardiovascular system tied to your nervous system, >> uh heart palpitations, >> problems sleeping, um focused concentration, different kinds of thoughts coming into your head, dizziness, eyes. Some people trying to get off SSR eyes, get problems with their eyes, blurry vision, dizzy, things like that. So, um, just checking out the comments here. I took >> Mrs. Quatly, I took Lexapro once, probably 10 years ago. Only took it for about two months. One day I was driving down the interstate and a thought popped into my head that wasn't my own. I would never harm myself.

[00:12:01]Yeah. And and um, good thing you only took it for about two months.

[00:12:07]as one of the comments said, "Yeah, there is that connection between a variety of mental illness medication and the mass shooters."

[00:12:19]Um, I've seen YouTube comments saying that juice helped with depression. Also, B1 and aspirin to get glucose metabolism working. Vitamin B's for sure, all the vitamin B's are required for nervous system processing. So B12, B1.

[00:12:40]>> Um, >> yeah, I I mean I think I think he's already addressing it pretty significantly when he when RFK is discussing eat real food and eliminate the toxins inside of you know our food like the chemicals and the dyes like all those things are going to be depressing I'm sorry addressing um you know mental stability and and uh depressive symptoms. So that's that's great. He's addressing it from that standpoint.

[00:13:11]>> Also meat, you know, he's urging people to eat red meat again, and red meat is the highest source of vitamin B's, >> especially B12. So >> roughly 17% of Americans take some form of antid-depressant.

[00:13:27]That's one in six people, one in seven people take antid-epressants.

[00:13:37]which tend to be a firstline medication treatment due to their effectiveness, safety, and typically mild side effects.

[00:13:47]>> Dude, this woman's getting paid.

[00:13:51]>> For sure.

[00:13:51]>> Yeah, I I think there's uh been multiple studies about rodeiola is it is Yeah, rodeiola rosacea being just as if not more effective than anti-depressants for depression.

[00:14:04]Yeah, there's a there's a ton of herbs that help with uh depression, mood, and stress adaptation.

[00:14:17]Rodeiola, holy basil, ashwagandha, rishi mushroom there. Yeah, there's a lot of them. So, you can take GABA, magnesium. There's ton tons of supplements to help with mood and focus and relaxation. So, oh man, some of these comments are breaking my heart. I don't really want to show them, but >> yeah.

[00:14:54]>> Yeah. It's uh absolutely an issue. So, here's RFK Jr.

[00:14:58]speaking about this.

[00:15:02]The data is clear. One in six American adults takes an anti-depressant. One in 10 children are on prescription medication for their mental health. 30% of college students report using psychiatric medications in the past year. And in nursing homes, more than half of the residents are on prescribed anti-depressants.

[00:15:29]Those are insane statistics.

[00:15:32]>> Mhm.

[00:15:34]One in 10 children on prescription meds for their brain, for their mental health.

[00:15:42]Half.

[00:15:44]Did he say half in nursing homes?

[00:15:49]That's crazy.

[00:15:54]>> It's kind It's kind of sad when when you step back and think about it that uh our society is that depressed, you know, struggles with just being alive that much.

[00:16:08]I mean, on one hand, there is an argument to be made that we are the victims because we live on a freaking slave planet with economic issues and just all the all the garbage [ __ ] in society.

[00:16:24]>> But on the other hand, um >> there's a lot that we can do.

[00:16:32]>> Yeah. just um eat right, exercise, build connections, get out into your community, family, friends, local networks, churches, whatever it may be.

[00:16:45]Um you know, and I think it's great I I think it's great that was it two weeks ago, Trump signed his executive order on psychedelics for mental health.

[00:16:59]>> So lay the foundation with that. with the solution and then couple of weeks later RFK starts going to work against the uh anti-depressants.

[00:17:15]So these anti-depressants, these SSRIs, it's a band-aid effect, you know, it's a band-aid effect and psychedelics among other natural treatments as well are uh getting to the root root cause of the issue which is connection and I I believe you know Mari was talking about um the speed at which new things could be made available to the public um you know he was talking about weeks you know not years whereas before you know if they opened research into psychedelics you would imagine that you know you'd be two to five years before you saw anything available on the market was talking about how fast that would change how fast it could actually move so I wonder if we won't see something like a a micro dose type psychedelic here in the near future that would help people who were weaning themselves or wanted to stop taking these medications Just something to keep an eye on.

[00:18:16]>> Yeah, that'd be if it if that could happen this year.

[00:18:20]>> Mhm.

[00:18:23]>> Uh, if you trust psychedelics more than medicine, you need help. If you don't think psychedelics aren't medicine, my brother, >> you need help. Here is RFK with his personal story of a family member struggle to come off SSRI. And RFK says that can be harder than getting off heroin.

[00:18:47]>> Control expert on this because I was addicted to heroin for 14 years. I never wanted to be. So I was constantly getting off of it and then getting back on. And I went through cold turkey withdrawal probably over a hundred times. And so I know what it's like. And it's not fun. But it is it is limited.

[00:19:10]It is finite in time. After 72 hours, it's over. So you just have to steal yourself for 72 bad hours. But I've watched people come off of SSRIs. And it is it's not even comparable. And I watched a family member get off of them after a couple years on them. And she was suicidal literally every day. She woke up every morning and said, "I don't want to live." And she said, "The only reason I'm staying alive is for you guys, for the family." And uh that's heartbreaking for to hear from a family member. And um I've heard that from hundreds and hundreds of people, the same story again and again. It can be prolonged. And for many patients, it's completely unexpected.

[00:20:04]And the physicians handle this by saying, "Oh, this is your original symptom, reasserting yourself. You need to get back on the SSRIs."

[00:20:15]And they get locked in a lifetime cycle that is uh that for many patients is absolutely cataclysmic.

[00:20:24]This is a system failure.

[00:20:27]We're not going to ignore it. Let me be clear. If you are taking psychiatric medication, we're not telling you to stop. or making sure that you and your clinician have the information and support to make the right decisions for you.

[00:20:44]>> Yep.

[00:20:45]>> Wow.

[00:20:48]You know, I can't help but personally I feel like this is almost as big of an issue as uh the vaccination.

[00:20:58]I maybe maybe that's not accurate, but personally it feels like that.

[00:21:04]Um, I wouldn't say any particular issue is bigger than another because it's very subjective. For some people, vaccines are going to be a bigger issue. For some, for others, antid-depressants are going to be a bigger issue. And they're both correct.

[00:21:19]>> Yeah.

[00:21:20]>> Uh, you know, somebody who is having a rough time on antid-epressants, addicted to it, can't get off it, obviously antid-depressants are going to be a bigger issue for them. But say a family with a newborn and or a child who just went in for their shots and all of a sudden changed, then vaccines are going to be a bigger problem for them. But, uh, you're right. This is absolutely something that's under discussed, overprescribed, and if that many people are taking them, that's got to be a huge like I'm curious. I'm curious about the revenues generated on a yearly basis for these companies just from this one drug or just just from SSRI.

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[00:23:16]There you are. And with uh with SSRIs and psychedelics, um because a lot of psychedelics target the serotonin receptors, SSRIs tend to make them ineffective.

[00:23:30]So, you know, not medical advice. I'm just sharing with you anecdotes I've read online, but from what I read, it suggested people, you know, there has been some people that have used psychedelics to help get off their SSRIs and it makes the process a lot more a lot easier for them. Um, from what I read, it suggested that you start weaning yourself off four weeks before any kind of psychedelic experiences and then cut cut the SSRIs out completely two weeks before.

[00:24:05]So, it's just just an idea. What did you find on the numbers?

[00:24:10]>> Uh, so it looks like uh it says that most of the SSRIs now are are generic because um they're long off patent. So, >> oh yeah, >> uh it looks like for Fizer, maker of Zoloft, looks like they're under two to 300 million annually, but the entire global SSRI uh industry generates about 19 to 20 billion was the estimates for last year.

[00:24:39]>> I wonder if they're still on patent in other countries. Uh yeah, possibly >> off patent in America. But yeah, 20 bell, 20 bell per year.

[00:24:51]>> So Eleanor, we got a quick rumble rant to share.

[00:25:02]>> Thank you for that one, Eleanor.

[00:25:05]If I can bring it up. Thanks for the peptide discussion and providing a place for us to discuss these issues about meds and health, Jordan and Nate. Thank you, Eleanor. Much appreciated.

[00:25:15]>> Thank you.

[00:25:17]>> Hope you enjoyed Wednesday's Maha Living episode on the peptides.

[00:25:24]>> Cool. Now, let's move into H.

[00:25:28]Ha.

[00:25:31]Ha. Oh my gosh. I just can't even I can't believe it. I can't believe that we're back we're back here with the possibilities, the hinting. It's It's almost kind of comical.

[00:25:43]>> I can't help it.

[00:25:44]>> Potato potato potato virus. Um yeah, you just got to shake your head and ignore it. I I I don't even know what to say at this point. It's just beating a dead horse.

[00:25:58]>> Yeah.

[00:26:00]I mean, I imagine this is this is the funny thing though is I imagine everybody in the chat heard about this like the this thing spread like wildfire as far as attention.

[00:26:18]The World Health Organization said that five confirmed infections have been identified on some cruise ship.

[00:26:27]Five.

[00:26:30]The virus is typically associated with rodents, but it may have passed from human to human on the vessel according to the who. Well, good news is that America is not part of the World Health Organization anymore. So, get wrecked.

[00:26:44]>> Hallelujah.

[00:26:46]>> Get wrecked, Tedros.

[00:26:48]Um, oh no. Since a month ago, three people from the ship have died while some people are sick.

[00:26:58]Okay, it's a cruise ship. That's why I don't go on cruise ships.

[00:27:05]>> As per Robert Malone, your odds of being struck by lightning are more than seven times greater than getting hunter virus in the US.

[00:27:17]>> I've seen lightning before.

[00:27:22]And here is the WH on this.

[00:27:28]>> So right now there aren't any specific treatments um for hunto virus but uh care is supportive. Uh typically people will um develop respiratory symptoms. So respiratory support um is really important particularly oxygen. Um some require um mechanical ventilation. Um so what we want especially if patients are deteriorating we want to make sure that they um they have uh appropriate level of care, they have intensive care um and they have respiratory support but no there is no specific treatment. There are some that are in development but at the present time uh care.

[00:28:06]>> Here we go again.

[00:28:09]>> Dude, I I got to ask you man. Okay, so the timing of this is very coincidental.

[00:28:14]Do you think that this was a push because of midterms or do you think that this is some other cover up or what I I just got I just >> dude know >> I mean we could theorize yeah another election infection and all this crap but I think the answer that the answer to that will become more clear as time goes on and we see what direction they try push everybody toward with this.

[00:28:48]>> But yeah, man. Yeah, man. Who knows?

[00:28:53]>> And then as as people are looking into the haunt virus, all the all the usual data points surrounding it.

[00:29:03]>> Um, oh no, clinical trials have already been ran with haunt virus DNA gene therapy injection.

[00:29:12]Um, freaking Madna and Korea University are co-developing a haunt virus vaccine.

[00:29:19]This is published two years ago.

[00:29:23]Apparently, I found some patents, too, or pending patents. I was looking into Hanto virus yesterday and I found one pending patent that the UK government had. I found one pending patent that the University of Texas had for honto virus.

[00:29:42]antigens to make vaccines with. So, and and both of these patents were applied for like two or three years ago.

[00:29:54]They haven't been approved. They're just pending. But still, but still.

[00:30:00]>> Yeah.

[00:30:02]It just I don't know. I don't know. I just can't like if they're going to do it, why would they do antivirus which is not transmissible generally person to person? Like you have to breathe in mouse poopy.

[00:30:20]Is the haunt virus really on the list as a side effect from the co shots?

[00:30:32]H. And then uh yeah, as soon as as soon as the news broke, you had a bunch of people online just yeah, we can we can kill the viruses. We don't need vaccines. You know, I saw a lot of people posting about Ivormectin, which maybe I'm not, you know, I'm not an ivormectin head like a lot of people are, but uh it's just funny how quick the media went into ivormectin attack mode.

[00:31:05]>> You know, I'm not a I'm not a ivormectton head, but I am a bleach boy.

[00:31:09]And I looked up, you know, as soon as I came across hauntirus and saw the media pushing it, I went to Google and I just searched chlorin dioxide study havirus and I found PubMed studies.

[00:31:24]This study was from 20 years ago, 2004, 2006.

[00:31:30]evaluation of the efficacy of disinfectants against haunt virus.

[00:31:36]And yep, chlorine dioxide totally destroyed haunt virus.

[00:31:43]>> That's insane.

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[00:32:28]Wanta haunt >> and uh the WH came out today. I don't think we have it in our lineup, but the WHO came out today and officially said Ivormectin does not work against haunt virus.

[00:32:41]>> Oh yeah.

[00:32:42]>> Mhm.

[00:32:46]How did they know that? Did they study it already?

[00:32:50]Because they can't have it messing with the plans to take over the world.

[00:32:59]Did I go too far with that?

[00:33:00]>> Said that.

[00:33:00]>> I think I went too far. I was thinking Pinky had the brain. I saw the rat made me think of that.

[00:33:06]>> Found this from the pharmacy times.

[00:33:08]Unproven haunt virus treatments flood social media.

[00:33:15]Ivormectin, vitamin D, and zinc are being recommended on social media despite a lack of evidence.

[00:33:23]Can't hurt though.

[00:33:30]That's just hilarious.

[00:33:32]>> Yeah, I can't help but think so. So, uh, Malone's saying, you know, you're seven times more likely to be struck by lightning. So, it's like everybody finding out that a lightning strike happened, let's say, in Florida. And so everybody across the nation starts, you know, wearing rubber boots and uh whatever you do to protect yourself from lightning. This is just crazy.

[00:33:58]>> Yeah, it's just so stupid.

[00:34:01]>> But we'll see the re we'll see how things unfold, right?

[00:34:04]>> Yeah.

[00:34:08]I saw this uh I saw a post today somewhere comment that said, "Oh, all these natural all these natural herbs or natural supplements, they're too weak to work, but they're strong enough to give you side effects."

[00:34:28]As per the establishment, natural remedies are too weak to work, but strong enough.

[00:34:40]>> That's funny.

[00:34:44]Now we get into uh some insurance news.

[00:34:50]RFK. Actually, I want to play this clip on the uh deprescribing.

[00:34:54]CMS is issuing billing guidance that allows physicians to get paid for deprescribing work for the first time.

[00:35:07]CMS, the Center for Medical Medicaid and Medicare Services is issuing billing guidance that allows clinicians to get paid for deprescribing work for the first time care.

[00:35:26]>> Dude, if I was a doctor, just like you said, Nate, I'd make my whole business on deprescribing. Mhm.

[00:35:35]Yeah. Yeah. I mean, how many how many people like do we each everybody in the chat like I guarantee you know somebody who has told you like yeah I take this medication and then because I take this medication they prescribe this medication to cover the interactions of this medication like yeah that is true spats um paying for deprescribing could have negative impacts because you could have some doctor that's really trying to gain the system. They'll prescribe you something to get paid, then deprescribe you to get paid, get you back on it, prescribe you again to get paid, and then they'll just go back and forth.

[00:36:18]>> Yeah, I didn't think about that. Yeah.

[00:36:20]>> Yeah.

[00:36:22]>> Well, no system is perfect.

[00:36:25]>> I don't know, man. Just gota got to keep an eye on that one.

[00:36:33]Welcome to the roller coaster.

[00:36:36]>> Yeah, welcome to our world when it revolves around freaking money.

[00:36:43]>> That's the issue here.

[00:36:44]>> Yeah, dude. Money and medicine, they just don't go together, do they? There's just >> money just the love of money.

[00:36:54]The the the the need for it. That's the issue. The need for it.

[00:37:02]Yeah, we need some kind of value exchange bartering tool, some kind of symbol for it. Money if you will. It's helpful, but the fact that we need it just to live and uh people love it way too much creates uh my problems.

[00:37:21]>> Yeah. But >> huh. Well, way to go. I mean like this is this is a step that RFK was has been discussing for a really long time and it seems like it's the first one of the first big steps in uh changing how money works in medicine.

[00:37:42]>> Yeah, I think it'll have a net positive but it can be a bad thing like spet said >> could have some negative impact depending on the situation.

[00:37:54]Uh, here's FDA Commissioner Marty Mccari confirming that the FDA purposefully lied to people for nearly two decades about dietary fat.

[00:38:07]People avoided fat to eat more sugar so big pharma could sell them more drugs.

[00:38:13]That added sugar is a problem.

[00:38:18]Yeah, I went uh it's it's added sugar in almost everything like when you're doing your label reading for condiments or whatever at the grocery store, look for that added sugar line under under the grams of sugar. It should be includes blank grams of added sugar. Look for the ones that say zero zero added sugar. Um, like I went over to my family's house for Cinco deio and I was just looking for hot sauce. I just wanted some hot sauce, man. And all the hot sauces they had had added sugar and it's usually corn syrup they put in there as the added sugar. All these taco sauces had corn syrup added.

[00:39:05]>> Really?

[00:39:06]>> No. Not gonna not going to use that.

[00:39:11]uh ketchup, steak sauce, taco sauce, all these condiments have added sugars, usually corn syrup and ton tons of other foods, too. So, do your label reading, folks.

[00:39:30]>> What about you, Nate? You just pound spoonfuls of table sugar in the morning for breakfast?

[00:39:36]>> Yeah. Helps the medicine go down.

[00:39:44]My uh No, my uh my bad habit is I really like honey in my coffee in the mornings.

[00:39:51]And uh >> that's not bad.

[00:39:54]>> No, I mean it's it's better than it's better than corn syrup, better than sugar, but it's still a massive insulin spike.

[00:40:03]>> Dude, barbecue sauce does have an absolute ton of corn syrup. Yep, >> dude. Yeah. And I guarantee you at all those restaurants you go to, even if it's like a quote unquote high-end place, they're still largely using cheap ingredients. It's going to be corn syrup, barbecue sauce.

[00:40:22]>> So, >> human, the average human, most people eat a lot more corn syrup and added sugar than they think, especially if they're going out to restaurants. Not just >> sugar, but uh seed oils and all that.

[00:40:38]Yeah, I uh so I'm I'm running we we have CoQ10 inside of our stod this there this has a purpose. We have CoQ uh CoQ10 inside of our stoked energy pouches and I'm I'm running into an issue actually making the pouches because CoQ10 is oily and causes a lot of problems with flow.

[00:40:56]So I'm looking at well how do I make it easier to make the pouch still retain the CoQ10. So they make different versions of CoQ10 and it's like CoQ10 encased inside of starch. So it makes the flow better of the powder and you can actually do stuff. Well, so I'm now I'm looking at this this converted CoQ10 and uh I get the ingredient list and they say, "Well, 10% of it is a vegetable oil." So I'm like, "Well, what's the vegetable oil?" And I finally hear back from it's soy. Soy oil.

[00:41:29]How much of that stuff are we are we taking? We think we're doing good for ourselves and they have it encased in soy or corn syrup or any of this other stuff and we just don't know. We're just not aware.

[00:41:43]>> 100%. Man, I remember back when I was a fat little middle schooler for breakfast, I'd take a piece of white Wonderbread and then do cinnamon and sugar on it and that was my average breakfast. probably, oh god, probably 40 grams of sugar. It's pure white refined sugar for breakfast. And >> right, >> no wonder I was like pre-diabetic as a seventh grader.

[00:42:12]>> Yeah.

[00:42:14]>> All right. Um, move on to the final subject, then maybe we'll get to some Q&A with the chat for a minute.

[00:42:21]The uh DOJ saying they're reviewing over three million documents on the big four meat packers in America. They have found antitrust practices.

[00:42:33]The big four have always been working together and sharing information to skyrocket prices.

[00:42:38]The DOJ is looking at antitrust investigations and lawsuits versus these meat packers for their monopolizing.

[00:42:50]Um, there is acting attorney general Todd Blanch, head of the USDA, Rollins.

[00:43:00]These are pretty long video clips, so I'm not going to play them. But she said, "Half of these meat packing giants, including the largest meat packer in the world, are either foreignowned or have significant foreign ownership and control, making them a threat not just to our cattle producers, but a threat to America.

[00:43:20]and uh Peter Navaro here. It's not just price gouging and price fixing we have to worry about. It's also the influence of foreigners on our supply chain.

[00:43:32]Yep. Bad news.

[00:43:34]>> H it would just be nice >> if I could go down the road and get a pound of grass-fed beef from the local local rancher.

[00:43:48]Yeah, that's what I was just wondering.

[00:43:51]Like, so they they find there's issues with the meat packers. Like, I wonder what happens. Like, what's the next step? How do we solve the issue?

[00:44:01]More meat packers, break up the meat packers, like what is it?

[00:44:09]Yeah.

[00:44:11]>> Just uh de deregulating so your small supplier can go down and get his beef inspected and sold on the market.

[00:44:19]>> Yeah. Yeah. And but then you have Oh, dude. There's so many like So you Okay, so you have all your local grocery stores. How do you take that into the local grocery store? Like is the grocery store going to accept it? Is their insurance going to let them, you know, purchase local beef?

[00:44:36]>> Yeah.

[00:44:38]Yeah, it's a good point.

[00:44:41]>> I would love I would love to see it though. Maybe we just need to open more butcher shops.

[00:44:46]You know, maybe this will just make leave the door open for more local butcher shops.

[00:44:52]You could break up the big four and have almost no impact on beef prices. Maybe other meats you could, but beef is strictly a numbers game, which is why cattle prices continue to rise as per chat. H.

[00:45:08]Yeah.

[00:45:12]All right, guys. We'll get into a couple uh uh plugs to finish up, then we'll get to the uh chat for a moment.

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[00:46:57]Now, let me bring up the chat.

[00:47:03]Cattle prices are up 100% over the past five years due to herd size.

[00:47:09]Wild. In all of Michigan, they have three producers that are allowed to produce and sell locally.

[00:47:16]>> Jeez.

[00:47:18]>> Three.

[00:47:22]>> That is sick. I was um I think I was talking about this with John on his like America First Business show a couple of weeks back, but uh we were talking about the supplement industry and the price of uh what I was saying is the price of whey protein has gone up probably 200% probably three times in the last 15 years.

[00:47:47]I remember you used to be able to buy a two pound tub of just basic whey protein for like 20 bucks, 25 bucks.

[00:47:54]>> And now it's 50.

[00:47:58]You're lucky if it's 40 bucks for a two-lb container of protein. And that's because uh there's one company called Glambia, a giant dairy producer. And Glambia is buying up all the uh like whey production facilities.

[00:48:19]So it's all coming through one company.

[00:48:22]>> Wow.

[00:48:23]>> You just have one, two, or three companies owning everything, owning the whole supply chain.

[00:48:28]>> You're effed.

[00:48:33]That is true.

[00:48:35]>> Yeah.

[00:48:37]>> So, hey, I I couldn't help it, but I was I was interested because we were talking about anti-depressants and how per pervasive they are in society, and I was like, "So, what are the top five medication classes in the US?

[00:48:50]>> Antid-depressants are number five."

[00:48:53]So, the number one would be statins.

[00:48:57]>> Make sense?

[00:48:58]>> Yeah.

[00:49:01]which is wild.

[00:49:06]And most of the farms grow corn or soybean. So we no longer have a variety of growers in the US. Yep.

[00:49:15]Corn, soybean, or um alpha alpha is a big one. Those are genetically engineered. Biotech companies sell those. They are subsidized by the government literally every step of the way.

[00:49:28]incentives have been put in place to force essentially force and coers farmers to grow corporate product.

[00:49:39]You know, we we were talking a couple of weeks back, Nate, about the USDA investing into alternative crops.

[00:49:47]>> Like I think it was strawberries and blueberries and avocados and you know it was like a couple hundred million dollars I think, right? I can't remember the exact number, but the USDA is putting money into non-getically engineered farms, which is good, which will help, but we have to remove that subsidy system, but you can't do it too much too fast where it destroys the farming industry. So, it's such a such a complicated game.

[00:50:20]>> Yeah. Yeah. I think it Yeah. Even if even if there was a massive concerted effort to change what our farmers were growing and focus more on, you know, sustain sustainability for our our cattle herds and for people. I mean, I think my impression is that it would probably take at least four to five years before we saw any meaningful change come from that.

[00:50:47]>> Yep.

[00:50:49]No quick fix on changing farming from pesticides to seeds to crops. Rugpull the farmers, they they go out of business. Another tight rope.

[00:50:56]>> Yeah, >> another tight rope for sure. But what we can do in the meantime is vote with our dollars and just go out there and start buying.

[00:51:09]Go to the farmers markets. You know, it's May. Farmers markets are starting up.

[00:51:14]>> Yeah.

[00:51:14]>> Go there on Saturdays or Sundays. start spending your money with local farmers or just not buying the garbage [ __ ] from the big corporations.

[00:51:29]>> Yeah, vote with your Dallas.

[00:51:33]Team Smooth SSR experience approximately a six-month span.

[00:51:38]Prozac 10 is that 10 milligrams.

[00:51:41]Um two to three months increase to 20 a couple of weeks return to 10 by fifth months. By fifth month decrease to alternate days occasionally to stopping.

[00:51:54]Okay, cool. It's good. Good. You uh weaned yourself off.

[00:52:04]Statins are no good.

[00:52:07]And it just blows my mind. This is something I learned 15 years ago, but a lot of doctors still haven't learned that is that you take statin, body stops producing CoQ10.

[00:52:21]Cells need CoQ10 to produce ATP.

[00:52:26]No ATP, body tired. Brain tired. Heart tired. Heart failure. Brain fog.

[00:52:37]>> Yeah.

[00:52:37]>> Hey Nate, don't you have a CoQ10 like product?

[00:52:43]>> I do.

[00:52:45]>> I do.

[00:52:47]>> Which one is it?

[00:52:48]>> Stoke en stoked energy pouches.

[00:52:54]>> You got CoQ10 in these?

[00:52:56]>> Yeah, got 30 milligrams of CoQ10. I tried putting 5 milligs of PQQ all for ATP production. You pair PQQ with CoQ10, that's a dynamite combination.

[00:53:05]Unfortunately, 5 milligrams of PQQ uh causes the inside of your mouth to turn blue. So, we dropped it down to 1 milligram of PQQ with 30 milligrams CoQ10. Anyway, great for energy. It's different. 20 It's only 25 milligrams of caffeine. So, this isn't like a a caffeinated buzz bomb. It's just more of a steady energy. Like it's just a nice energy feeling.

[00:53:32]>> Yeah.

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[00:53:40]>> Anyone feels like >> anybody taking statins? They I would highly highly recommend force them even to take CoQ10.

[00:53:49]>> Yeah.

[00:53:51]And if they're on the older side, if they're, you know, 70, 80 years old, I might suggest ubiquininal, which is just easier for older folks to process. But CoQ10 for sure.

[00:54:02]Dad won't get off statins, so you got him CoQ10. Awesome.

[00:54:11]Sad. Deborah, statins killed your dad.

[00:54:14]Didn't realize it then, but in retrospect, it's obvious. Uh, did he die of heart failure?

[00:54:22]Because like literally your nervous system just can't produce energy. So your heart, your brain start getting weak and uh liver too start hurting the liver. So what's crazy is you know like these things have been like you go back rewind 20 years these things are being prescribed by the people that we're supposed to entrust our health to.

[00:54:49]That's criminal.

[00:54:54]Handing them out like candy.

[00:54:56]>> Mhm.

[00:54:57]>> Like candy.

[00:55:01]>> Statins, anti-depressants.

[00:55:06]>> Did you have the list of like the top drugs?

[00:55:08]>> Yeah.

[00:55:08]>> Said statins is one.

[00:55:10]>> Statins is one. Uh stuff like blood pressure.

[00:55:14]>> Yep.

[00:55:15]>> Yeah.

[00:55:15]>> Thy thyroid hormones is number three.

[00:55:20]Uh >> statin is blood pressure, thyroid, >> metformin. So GLP1s number four.

[00:55:29]>> Thought metformin was blood pressure.

[00:55:31]>> Uh antid-diabetics. Sorry.

[00:55:34]>> Diabetics >> led led by metformin is what it says here. And then antid-depressants is five.

[00:55:42]>> Well, all that fl all that fluoride in our water destroying people's thyroids.

[00:55:49]Yeah, >> heavy metals from the vaccines. It's just uh God, it's all of it together, man. Toxic soup of a world we live in.

[00:55:59]>> Assaulted from what seems to be every angle.

[00:56:04]>> And people's thyroids need iodine to function properly as well. And if our diets suck, no iodine. What what kind of iodine do you re uh Well, what kind of iodine?

[00:56:17]>> I eat seaweed snacks.

[00:56:20]>> Seaweed snacks.

[00:56:21]>> Yeah, I I like to get my iodine from food and I love seaweed snacks.

[00:56:25]>> Uh my kids love those seaweed smells like fish.

[00:56:30]>> Yeah, that >> dude. Ew.

[00:56:34]I didn't think about the iodine content.

[00:56:36]>> Like I know I know you're setting me up to shill one of my products, but I gotta be honest. I prefer my iodine from seaweed snacks.

[00:56:44]>> Okay. Well, I I would prefer it from drops that I add to my water, but you keep doing your seaweed snacks.

[00:56:52]>> Seaweed snacks. Sardines and seaweed snacks. I would I would live in the ocean if I could.

[00:56:58]>> Um, yeah. And it sucks that a lot of salt these days is just white refined table salt. do your uh you know do your sea salts and all that.

[00:57:10]But >> yeah, yeah, I'm with Spence on this one.

[00:57:17]Lugals is my go-to as well.

[00:57:21]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got the I got the Lugals.

[00:57:25]Got the Lugals. 5%. So, couple of drops of that, you're good to go for iodine.

[00:57:32]But I gotta say, man, seaweed snacks.

[00:57:38]What do you say? Not that nasty crap Jordan eats.

[00:57:45]Anyway, I got I got the 5% the good stuff.

[00:57:49]But uh code badlands conscious.net Badlands for 10% off. But sardines and seaweed is life. I didn't know sardines had iodine in them.

[00:58:03]>> I don't think they do.

[00:58:04]>> Oh, >> they don't. You really need >> You're just saying >> you need greens for iodine. So, that's where the seaweed snacks come in.

[00:58:11]>> Wait, so do you eat the seaweed snacks with the sardines? Is that >> Oh, that's a good idea. I could like wrap it up like a little uh >> like a little sandwich roll or something.

[00:58:20]>> Yeah, there you go.

[00:58:22]>> I'm a big fan of spirulina, too. Also very high in iodine. Spirulina powder.

[00:58:27]You can do capsules or tablets of spirulina, but you have to take a lot of capsules. I just do a tablespoon of uh spirulina powder. Big fan of that too for the iodine. Um and one of the few plant sources of vitamin B12 as well, spirulina.

[00:58:50]All right, my friends.

[00:58:53]Good chat, good talk. Appreciate all y'all for tuning in.

[00:58:58]We will see you next week.

[00:59:03]What should we do before our Wednesday show, Nate?

[00:59:05]>> Let's do it. Um, >> you let us know in the comments.

[00:59:10]>> Yeah, >> you guys let us know in the comments.

[00:59:13]We'll be looking suggestions for next week's Maja Living. Otherwise, uh, we'll see you Friday for Maja News here live on Badlands. Appreciate all y'all and uh have a great weekend.

[00:59:26]>> Adios. Bacon.

[00:59:28]>> Wednesday will be about bacon.

[00:59:32]>> Yeah. Thanks, Polaris.

[00:59:36]>> All right, guys. Have a good weekend.

[00:59:38]Adios.

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