Translating the Bible from biblical Hebrew to Toki Pona requires careful consideration of grammatical structures, semantic shifts, and cultural context. The translator demonstrates how Hebrew uses words like 'day' to express duration of years, how verbs like 'provide' can mean both 'contain' and 'comprehend', and how prepositions function differently across languages. The translation process involves making decisions about whether to preserve original ambiguity or add explanatory context, and choosing words that reflect historical realities like land ownership rather than modern political ideologies.
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Translating the bible into toki pona from biblical hebrew
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Anyway, let's see where we were. Genesis 47 because wow, damn. I'm almost done with this. Um, so Genesis 47 and Okay. So, so Joseph's family has just kind of arrived in um Goshin.
Uh and Joseph is talking to the pharaoh.
Everyone's saying tooki 'the' and I hate it. I hate it. Oh my god. Why?
I wish people could say Toki instead of Toki 'the'.
Okay, so we're on we're on verse 9.
The days of the years of my sojourning.
Okay, so this is something that Hebrew does a lot where it uses the word that lexically means they um to just mean time like a a duration of time in general like kind of on the longer scale um uh usually on the scale of years but they use the word for day for that. So the days of the years of my sojournings is literally like how many years was I sojourning. So when I translate, I'm not going to to use suno, I don't think, even though it's in there. I'm going to say um like tempo tempo may go, I haven't done this in like over a month, so I'm kind of forgetting like what my conventions were like.
like the days of the years of my sojourning. Like maybe like tempo me.
Okay, there we go. That works cuz it's like my time of a place that isn't my place. And that's what a sojurnn is is where you like maybe if I add an owen in there it's like when I stayed my my staying time of a place that is not that that is not my place and that that I think works pretty well.
I I think it would even work without the owen but I I'm going to keep the owen in there. Chicken breast.
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um the sec um 30 and 100 years. So that's 130.
And then we have the etncta which is the little the little wishbone underneath which tells us that there's like a big semicolon right here. And then um Uh imu.
Okay.
So this is this is this isn't and e this is the evils.
So like few and the evils have been the days the the time of the years of my life and not have reached out the days of the years of the lives of my fathers. Okay.
This this verse is confusing me. So, we're going to check it individually.
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Yeah. Okay. So, Pharaoh said to Jacob Oh, Jacob said to Pharaoh, "The days of the years of my sojournings are 130 years." cuz Abraham lived a very long time. Um, and few and evil have been the days of the years of my life and not ha and not they have reached the days of the years of the lives of my fathers and the days of their sojournings. Okay. So, Jacob is sad because he's only lived for 130 years and sojourned, I guess. Yes. And he's talking to Pharaoh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, this is this is um Jacob. Joseph has brought Jacob to Pharaoh. Kind of like like saying, "Oh, hi. Hi, boss. I think it's time that you meet my parents."
You know, when like you have a job and you're like, "You're my boss. You should meet my parents."
Does that happen? That's never happened to me. I've never had a job where I've wanted my boss to meet my parents. Uh, I guess it was a different time.
Okay.
But I what I'm curious about is how it's few and the evils, right? The evil things. I I want to know what these two words together. Few and evil have been the days of the years of my life.
Oh, okay. So, we can use eeka for evil there, I think, cuz it's like it's like not saying that there was evil in the days. It's just saying that the days were like evil vibes. I want to say cuz it's it uses the copula there, right?
and evil have been few comma and evil or few and evil comma have been the the the days of the years of my life.
Okay. So I haven't they have reached they have not reached. I want to see what this verb means in according to BDB verb only. Okay. Heath eel reach overtake. Okay. So this is the one as far as I know that's used like all over the place to refer to like when people when one person's chasing another and reaches. Oh yeah yeah yeah. So it's used in the story of Joseph over here. Um, what? No, I don't see it. Go down.
Nasag. Okay. Nasag.
Nasag.
I don't see it in this verse. Okay, that's weird.
Uh uh visa visagamagam.
Okay.
Visagam. Okay. Where's vis? There we go.
And you shall overtake. Okay. Okay, so this is Joseph is giving his guards commands on like how to with his brothers basically. Am wait, am I allowed to say that? I haven't streamed in so long I forgot. Uh he's he's telling his uh he's telling his guards how to mess with his brothers cuz he's he wants to get back at them from selling him into slavery, which is reasonable. Um I would want to mess with the people who sold me into slavery if I had a position of power over them, hypothetically, if that happened. Uh, so I think the only reason the only change I'm going to make is I'm going to add comma because like to overcome to reach and overcome like if you're chasing after someone and you become next to them that's like a kind of a comma, right? So, it's not being used in that sense, but I'm going to keep the kama in there to kind of make it feel like more physical, more like there's an arrival at the state of not being like it. Um, lonami um in the days of theirings. So this part's interesting because we have a different preposition. This preposition is the direct object marker. So So what it's saying is that they have not reached the years.
But then over here it's saying that the time of their sojournings, but it's using the in preposition. So like this one would be e. I'm using sama because there is no word for to overcome or to reach um in tokyp pona. So you need to kind of talk around it with a preposition. But here I if I wanted to translate this directly I could I could say right and then now we have parallelism in both my translation and I think in the other cuz it's like in the days of their sojournings and over here he's saying the days of the years. Okay. So, it's not quite parallelism, but it's using I'm translating it the same way twice in the same verse, which is good because like that's poetry or something.
Let's go on to the next verse. Uh, now Jacob's blessing Pharaoh.
So, I I was actually talking to my rabbi about this. um kind of recentlyish about like what it means to bless somebody, what a blessing is cuz like the they say a lot in the Bible that people bless people. Sometimes God blesses people and sometimes Jews bless people and occasionally uh people who aren't Jews or not Jews but like Israelites or like um people of the Abraham Abrahamic faith or like people in that family um will bless other people but sometimes people from outside of that family will bless people inside of the family and be like, "Oh, we're not part of your ethnic group, but we recognize that your god is way cooler than all the other gods."
That kind of thing, right? um to kind of demonstrate that Judaism is the is the the has the most powerful God, right? Um so I I guess it depends a lot on the context how I translate blessed blessed to bless or a blessing, right? Um but I think that in this case because um no miracles happen to Pharaoh after this happens. It's not like he's making something happen. He's just like saying may God may may God protect you or something like that, right? He's just kind of talking about the holiness of Pharaoh. So that's why I translated as right in this case.
Um, but ble blessings are often given in the sense that God blesses someone and then they become the chosen one and they they're given the gift of prophecy and it's like the Apollo giving giving teenagers the gift of prophecy on Tumblr or something like whatever that meme was. It's like that and then that's the blessing. And then in that sense I might not just use toki as the verb because toki is just talking and I I would say that he's actually making them holy. I would use sewi as the verb transitively like like like say elohimi whoever right and now he's leaving.
Okay.
So over here I'm translating as taninpin because that's literally what this means. You might be looking at this and see seeing that it says from before and it's glossed as two prepositions. I I mean I don't really know who's who's reading this but this this is actually um mi means from lee means to and pane means face of. So the word for before in Hebrew is literally to the face of like with the of in there like this this little bit at the end means of. Um, so like from before here, this translation, uh, I'm not translating from this. I'm translating from this. I'm not saying from before into tokyp pona. I'm translating from uh, which means I guess the p would not always show up.
Like if it was from the face of a dog, it would just be, but yano, right? Okay, I'm done with that verse.
I'm having fun talking about my thought process a lot, but maybe maybe it's better if I just speed up. I don't know.
I don't know what people want. I don't even know how many people are watching.
Nine people are watching. Okay. Um, Met Opera. Okay. I got an email on my phone about the Met Opera. They want me to see their operas, I guess. Okay. Um, Yan.
Oh, Uh, Yan Ysef.
Uh the Okay, this is weird because it's saying that Joseph settled his Oh, it's he feel. Okay, so he feel means that he's causing his father to settle, not that he's quote unquote settling his father, though I guess I guess you could if you wanted to be weird in English, translate it like that. Um but Jacob, Joseph is making his father and his brothers settle.
So mama okay. Uh I might change I might change this if it specifies where later in the verse. But if it doesn't then uh I I see no need to specify here because if it's not in the original text I shouldn't translate it. I shouldn't add an extra context that isn't there because it's the Bible. You're supposed to figure out what it means from reading it. I It's very counterproductive to have someone else add into the text what their interpretation is into the text.
Commentary is fine, but like if the text itself is altered, then you don't know what's interpretation and what's the original text. And that's a problem because if you're basing like any of your opinions off of the text at all, then you need to make sure that it's the original. Otherwise, you're basing your opinions off of like someone some translator's opinions who likely existed like within the past 500 years if we're speaking about the English language probably much much closer to now. Uh, and those opinion th those biases from their life kind of bleed in. Right. I And now I'm just ranting about about people people using translations that I personally don't like. Oh well. Um, okay. Uh, Yseph.
Okay. Uh, a possession. Okay.
Is this the one? Is this that one word?
I I'm very rusty in Hebrew because summer happened and I stopped taking Hebrew classes because it's the summer.
Uh let's see.
Lando canon. Yeah. Okay. This is just yo.
Hey yo, LMA, it's fine. Okay, so my my question here is that is the possession a possession of land or is it just a general possession and we're in Genesis 47 landed property. Okay, so planet.
Okay. So, there are many tokyponists who would disagree with me on this decision to say yo ma for possession of land because um uh in their usage of the language which aligns with their political opinions about ownership of land, land should not be owned. Uh my political opinions are similar to that but they're irrelevant to translation of the Bible. Um, and because in biblical times, land was owned. So, I think it makes sense to use the word that can refer to ownership in tokypona in this context to refer to that ownership of land, which is why I'm choosing to do this uh at the to to the to the mental anguish of many tokyponists who um who really want their usage of language to reflect their politics.
Okay. Um, and then there and then they're in the best of the land. Okay.
Lon metav metav I metav is just okay. It's the best lon ma one.
Okay, so this is rem is a feminine.
Wait, is this a place?
Oh, yeah. Okay, it's a place. Most place names are feminine, but there's a real pharaoh named Remmeses historically who was a man.
So, it would be very interesting if this historical man's name in Hebrew was feminine, but it's not because he's not mentioned directly. It's just the land that's mentioned. At least not yet.
Maybe he's mentioned somewhere. I don't know. As far I mean, as far as as far as BDB says, um it's a proper name only of a location.
Uh, and then also it's a it's a verb that is is has a very weird very weird structure.
Uh, because it it's it's a weird verb, I guess. All right.
Yeah. Yeah. Me me when I'm playing cello. Um, and uh and and land land ownership ownership walks in. Am I right? There we go. There's there's my there's my Yoma joke.
I I thought it was pretty good.
So this is Rams Ramos the Rama. Okay, this is tricky. How do I rotize this? I think this is how I want to do it because Yeah, cuz cuz in this case, this would just be dropped. It wouldn't be pronounced as a glottle stop because it's right before another consonant. Um, you're curious to know how the Bible would look inquil. I think that because the Bible is inherently very ambiguous, it might be difficult to translate into Ithquil. And I'm not sure how easy it is to translate into ith ifquil while maintaining a good deal of ambiguity. It might be possible. It might be very easy. Uh I'm not an ithquil person, but uh the words might be shorter than than you'd assume based on ithquill. They might be like bare bones of what the meaning is just because uh just because it's it's a very ambiguous text. Um, in many cases it's unclear between two very different things. And in many cases it's unclear between two cuz translating into ithil is weird because all other languages besid are extremely ambiguous in meaning. Um, and is extremely precise in meaning. So any meaning that isn't there already like either needs to be emitted making making something inquil not as precise as it could be or there needs to be additional precision added in artificially into the translation which would make the translation suffer I think uh cuz it's like adding extra extra context that would have to be based on interpretation. So there might have to be like a lot of footnotes about language usage. Um, but also you should probably ask someone who's who like doesn't speak but like knows Ithquil. I don't think anyone really speaks it. Uh, but there are definitely people who like use the use the tables and control F to like talk to each other relatively quickly. You know, I don't know enough about to know if it would be grammatically possible to be vague, but uh, I think it could happen.
Uh, let's see.
Uh raises going crazy. Um Yeah. Okay. Whatever. Uh and once again, I think I've explained this before, but it's been a while. The reason why I translate to command as um is because uh the act that is being control, but it's being done through a the manner of speech. So, lai uh toki lawa could also work, but I like framing it like this. Oh my god. It's It's lady lady uh Oh, hi. Hello. I know who you are. I'm I'm I'm doing the dirtiest thing possible.
I think I've got everyone beat.
No one else is doing this. That's not true. There's a whole Bible translation project, but I'm the only person who's doing it like fully by myself.
Okay. And provided um va.
Okay. I don't recognize this verb. But I might just not recognize it because I'm really rusty with biblical Hebrew because it's been like a month. Cool. To contain sustain. Do I remember this one?
It was used in Genesis 45 and this is the second time it is used in the Bible. Okay.
Um so comprehend contain that's an that's a really a really fun uh dual meaning of a word I think like to comprehend something is to contain it in your mind. So then I would assume that the original meaning like comes from like to contain and then comprehend was like oh I'm containing this as a way of saying I'm comprehending this like I contain that in my head. I think it would be really fun to cal Hebrew in English and go around and be like someone is like blah blah blah do you understand? And you could be like I contain that and then they'd be like what do you mean? And I'd be like I contain that knowledge in my head now. it because you told me and you could trust me. It's there. I contain it. And then and then there you go. That would be really funny. That's that's a really funny thought to me. This is the kind of thing that is very humorous to me. I I I really like calcs. I think that they're very funny. Okay. So, to provide.
Okay. But that's not what this is. To contain and comprehend is not to provide. Oh, but it's okay. It's PL, which means it has a shifted meaning because in PA, which is the the normal one, uh like the the base verb conjugation uh system.
Uh good to know that calc is short for calculator.
That's really funny. Okay. All right.
Um, pa, also known as ka, which means simple, is the is the base the base way of conjugating verbs. But if you turn it into p pl, which in this case is called pipel for reasons I don't want to get into. It's it's the same thing as pl.
There's only seven of them. And then there are a bunch of others that do the same thing as the base seven, uh, but just do different things with the consonants and the vowels. they they're like grammatically the same category. It has a different meaning. Uh and this different meaning is usually more intense than the base meaning. So pl in this case pel uh intensifies the pa meaning. So the intensification of to contain is to sustain which um doesn't make direct sense but also this is not a productive process which means that you can't just take any verb and do this to it and then expect to know how its meaning will change. This is a very It's called short for calculator.
Oh my god, y'all are cracking me up. Is it this easy to make me laugh?
Does that make me a whimsical person? I hope so. Okay, so it contain followed by accusative of a person.
Ah, okay. So, this might be where it comes from. like to contain a person at a location uh could imply that in order to do that uh you need to sustain support and nourish them. Uh and then then this this first this meaning number one which is number one cuz it's the most common one actually probably came from this one. And then this is the third meaning. Uh which makes sense because it's only used in Proverbs, Malachi, and Psalms, which are all written in a later form of Hebrew than the Pentatuk to my knowledge. Uh and Kings and Jeremiah are older than these. I think Jer Jeremiah might not be uh but Genesis is the oldest. Okay. So th this one to this one probably happened before these texts were written but this one to this one might have happened after the first texts were written. That's that's my my head cannon for the evolution of this sense of this word uh from the base form. Uh that's what makes the most sense to me. Other hypotheses to me make less sense than this hypothesis. But to be clear, I do not know for sure that that's what what happened cuz I wasn't there. I was born uh in this century.
So I not 2,000 years ago. Uh I have been accused of being born 2,000 years ago and have been been part of a cult, but that's not true.
That's not true. I was not. And then there's this heifil which is to cause something to be contained. Okay. And then it's used for liquids. Okay. All right. Anyway. Anyway, uh provide for.
Okay. I think the perfect translation here in tokyp pona is awen because awen uh means to maintain something make something stay. Uh but it is used like as an extension of that to mean to protect. Um it's not the only word in tokyp pono that can be used to mean protect. But in this case it's it's best suited because um the the base meaning of this verb is to contain which awen means that and the less the the less literal meaning the the more direct meaning in this context is to sustain at a location which is also how awen is used in tokyp pona which makes awen the perfect word to use here in the translation and that's Why you always translate from the original language if you can into tokyp pona because you never know when the translation might just make a million times more sense from biblical Hebrew into tokyp pona than the English into tokyp pona. Also a lot gets lost in in playing telephone with translations. Okay. Uh yan ysefen.
See, I'm using I'm using the word and I I I prove to all of you that it's the perfect word uh mama. And it also lets me use uh the same preposition that they're using here at in Hebrew is used very similarly to how e is used in pona.
Uh I think it's a coincidence, but uh it's it's a fun little coincidence.
pom pa semicolon because we have the ataka if you remember it's this little fishbone thing here it means that this is like kind of a stopping point in the verse so this is like kind of halfway through the verse um this is the same in in Bethlehem uh in Hebrew Bethlehem means house of bread in Arabic uh I don't know how to pronounce it but Bethlehem Um in in Hebrew it's Bethlehem in uh in Arabic it's it sounds similar. It same name for the place but it means house of meat because in Arabic uh lem I think it's the hem uh it means uh meat not bread because probably in protosemitic which is where both Arabic and Hebrew descend from uh this same same root probably generally referred to food as a whole. Um, and it got more specialized meanings in different Semitic ethnic groups as they started to use words in more specific contexts, like using the general word for food to refer to a specific type of food that shows up in a lot of different meals. Um, that's not to say that you can look at ancient Israelites and ancient Arabs and be like, "Oo, the Arabs ate more meat and the and the the Israelites ate more bread." That's very silly because language is very arbitrary. Um, but I think it's cool that they mean different things and that we can kind of reconstruct the protosemitic me meaning likely based off of it meaning those things. And that's actually how that's all the information we have about the protoindo-uropean culture uh is through linguistic analysis. We have no artifacts from their culture at all. We only know what we know about their culture and what they were like because of similarities between Sanskrit and Greek and Latin and other protoindo-uropean languages which is fun.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure there was a similar semantic shift in English. Uh I also can't remember what it is. Oh well.
Um if I'm getting distracted, it's because I'm intentionally not taking my meds today cuz I don't want to take them every day.
But I'm having fun, so I'm going to keep streaming. Okay. Uh with bread according to the mouth of the little ones.
So this has to be some level of idiomatic because because that's how it translates. It's like just these three words by themselves. Uh lemi uh hatif hat. So the question is does hataf actually mean little one? Yes. Okay. So according to the mouths of the children uh or it's not according to it's just like to the mouths which uh oh okay so it's it's whatever the children need to be fed that bread is given to them. So, uh, uh, I think that this works really well as a translation because in tokyp pona, uh, you don't need a verb here. You can just use the prepositional phrase as the verb, right? And then you're there's no action happening. It's kind of just saying what the what the preposition thing is. Um, and in the in the original Hebrew, there is no verb. It's just bread to the mouth of the little ones. Uh, this with part was added by the transl the the translator um for the gloss to make sense if you're reading through the gloss and you don't speak Hebrew, but I can read biblical Hebrew well enough to know that that is not the case. There is no with here. It's just bread to the mouths of the little ones or mouth of the little ones. So, plurality doesn't matter when translating it to pona anyway. So, I don't have to worry about that. Uh I know that it will be the same translation either way.
So, the these babies these babies going to get fed with bread.
And uh we're just using a preposition.
Okay, we've gotten through two verses. And how long has it been?
Does it say?
I'm not sure where to find Oh, 40 minutes. Okay, 20 minutes a verse.
Usually, usually I do more than that in in 20 minutes. More than one.
Uh Oh, yeah. Right. Right. So, for those of you who are not familiar with the story of Joseph, who have never seen like the DreamWorks movie, um uh there's a famine going on and Joseph is living in Egypt and Joseph has uh successfully um like stockpiled bread and for so that people can be fed throughout the famine that he foresees by interpreting the dreams of Pharaoh. Um, when I was growing up, I always thought it was the Pharaoh. But apparently, it's just Pharaoh. Like, whoever the Pharaoh was, that was a name that you could call him. Uh, at least in Jewish culture, that is the case because Palo is treated as a name and not as a title. Um, unlike a lot of other titles that receive the definite article, Pharaoh never does. Anyway, anyway, anyway, and the bread. Uh, and bread.
Okay.
Leon wawa I'm just going to say m because me means m not wawa right it means very not powerfully so I like I like to translate as directly as possible when I can cuz there are other words that can be used instead of meod uh that have a more like wawa meaning because words in Hebrew come from roots and we know what the roots are because of its kind of uh globally unique morphology but locally not very unique because other other languages around it have the same grammatical structure anyway uh yam naya I don't know what that is anyway Uh, so that languished the land of Egypt in the land of Canaan because of the famine. Okay, I need to look up this verb taha.
That's what I think of. I think of like laughing to faint. I actually don't know what language means.
Okay. English loser lack vitality grow weaker or feeble. Okay. So uh ma meets rhyme and ma wa tan wa 14 gathered up.
Okay, gather up. What verb is this? I need to check because I am rusty. The pat. Okay.
Pick or gather up. Specifically glean.
This is the glean verb. This is that this is that verb that means to glean.
That that shows up in Ruth. Uh I'm pretty sure it shows up in Ruth. Yes.
Yes. This is the Ruth. This is the Ruth verb. It's the It's the verb that shows up in Ruth when when uh when Naomi and Ruth are like gleaning or whatever. This is it's it's that it's that word. Okay.
So, apparently it is used in a more general sense as well.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think works fine.
Litan.
I think I think the ba here which which is like the locative preposition. and it means in uh is using is being used here to mean in exchange of uh so I'm going to say okay that's that's stupid because it's it's in the trade of this bread they traded it which which is like in in tokyp pono the way that I translate in exchange for is uh right because I think that broader usage of essun is really cool uh and kind of unique-ish to took pona definitely not unique but it feels unique to me because I only speak like one language and that language is English so you know I I told you I told you that I was going to make a conlang that uses those when did I say that I might be I might I might have forgotten if I did say that I could just make that video I guess put put it on the list of videos. I have like five video scripts that I've written and like four more ideas for what's for for videos. Oh joke. Okay. Um okay. Uh, Joseph brought the silver to the house of Pharaoh. Yseph.
Okay. So, this is this is a causitive version of the word for to come, not so to bring. I'm just going to say, which is in tokyp pona also um a kind of a causitive of the verb for to come. So, it's the perfect translation. Uh, Money power Mali.
Yes.
I'm not sure why because N and L use different fingers and they're far away from each other. Oh, this is Biblehub.
Biblehub.com. Whoops.
This is biblehub.com.
Uh the interlinear option. There are many many options that you can choose from here. Uh there's a parallel where you can look at multiple different English translations. Um there's a study version which I I think is probably Christian because this is a pretty Christian website. Um I the visuals one has pictures and it looks like Okay, good. that's not AI generated.
Some of these might be I don't know. The commentary is just like a bunch of commentaries, most of which seem to be Christian on it. But, you know, uh interlinear is the one that I use the most cuz it does this. Uh Hebrew is kind of like interlinear, but it's like in like a it's the same information, but it's presented differently. A lexicon is I struggle to see the difference between lexicon and Hebrew.
Uh, but also the the words look like they're Oh, okay. So, it looks like the the lexicon one just has all the words as like vocabulary words. Uh, I guess uh no this is this is not the same verse.
Oh, and was finished. Wait, why is the Hebrew different?
Oh. Oh, so this one. Okay, so I figured it out. The Lexicon one changes the order of the Hebrew words to be in the order that the English words would be in had the Bible been written in English.
That's the difference between Hebrew and Lexicon. Strongs uh is just just has commentary on every single word, I guess. Uh I don't really care about it.
And then Multi has all the different languages, I guess, which is is nice.
They have the they have the original Greek translation. Uh they have Hebrew, they have um they have Spanish, they have the Aleppo codeex.
Uh is that a Hungarian one? Yeah, it is.
Yeah, they have some some nice some some Russian a Russian one.
Korean. They had just got they got all the Bibles up in here. Anyway, let's go back to where I was, which was here.
And then we can talk we can talk a little bit now about why uh I don't know the the verse. Let's talk about the verse.
Am I Christian? No, I'm Jewish. If I was Christian, I don't think I would as readily speak Hebrew.
Uh there was one Christian in my Hebrew class at college and she transferred to a different college and then it was all Jews in my Hebrew class. I'm the only one.
Uh no, wait, that's not what I meant. I I'm there was the only one. Why did I say that? Um I'm I'm not Christian. I'm Jewish. Uh, but I have a deep respect for the Christian religion and I have many friends who are Christians and I love talking with Christians about Christianity and I love talking with Christians about Judaism. Uh, I have a lot of fun talking about religion with religious people.
Sure.
Hello.
Walks into a room. Sure, everybody.
Everyone turns to me. What? And then I'm like, "Sure, it's the new fhatic phrase."
Actually, okay, story time. Uh, in my intro to linguistics class, which for some reason I, someone who went into college already knowing a great deal about linguistics, took in my fourth semester of like, so in my second year of college, having already taken a bunch of other linguistics classes that didn't require it for some reason. Um, I showed up late on the day when we talked about fhatic phrases and I didn't know what the topic for the day was and I sat down at my table and I said um I said uh what's up genders and uh and everyone was like aha a case of an odd fhatic phrase from Lipa here. How how odd of you to say that instead of a normal fhatic phrase like just what's up?
Why did Lipamanka say what's up genders?
I don't know. I I I wanted to mess around with fatic phrases and I didn't know. And uh apparently it was topical and it was funny and I'm glad I did it.
That's my That's my story. Hello.
Ah, it's translated. I hate that. It's It's funny because Allah is like my understanding is that Allah is a little rude in in Brazilian Portuguese.
Uh, or maybe that's Yeah, I think is uh is is considered like like goodbye, but also you. And maybe maybe Allah is just a little formal.
I don't I don't I don't remember though.
I'm not that great at Portuguese.
Yeah.
Yeah. I'm pretty sure that that's the case. People in Brazil just say ciao. If if someone's actually Brazilian, they can correct me or corroborate, but that's my understanding of it. Uh, okay.
So, when was finished the silver? Okay.
Man, okay.
What is this verb? We're We're learning tam.
Wait, does this have to do with time?
Cuz tam means like times or something. I can speak Lisbon Portuguese. But okay, wait.
That That's how it is.
That's how it is. They're not incredibly mutually intelligible. They're somewhat, but not not all the way.
They're they're different from each other. They're they're different languages almost.
Okay. Wait. So, to be complete Finnish has to do with time. However, I'm just going to translate it as pini. Mani Tanma can Okay. Uh Alama wait and it came all of Egypt. So all of Egypt came.
What? Why is it doing this now?
Okay. Well, I don't want the spell corrections cuz it's took pona.
Yeah, I if you're offering to type set my tokyp pona bible for free. I you can do that. I don't want to do it. I'll do it if someone doesn't doesn't want to do it for free. But but if if you want to use what is it? Latte. Latte to or something. That's the that's the one that all the cool all the cool kids are doing.
Damn. If you if you bound my translation of Genesis, that would be epic. Oh, you use um tips. Tips these days. That's awesome. Uh yan ysef.
Uhi opana mean.
This is the most Jewish thing I've ever read.
Even though Egypt is doing it, it's the most Jewish thing I've ever read. Uh, Egypt comes up to Joseph and is like, "Give us bread. And why should we die already?
Give us bread. And why should we die already?
Why should we die already if we're poor already?"
Oh my god, that's really funny. I I love the Bible. It's so funny.
Uh, neg.
Wait, why does it say there's a preposition?
What's the preposition?
There's no preposition.
Nun is not a preposition. And the at the end is a possessive.
What? That's just an incorrect gloss.
Oh, okay. So, neg is actually a preposition that appears to be used kind of sporadically through the Bible until this point. Uh, and then continues to be used sporadically through the Bible after this point.
you personally pronounce it is l.
I've heard that that's common.
Yeah, I've heard that. I've heard that that's common. You're curious how much longer the text will be in tokyp pona compared to English. I actually looked looked into this. Uh it might be in the Bible calculator. Uh no, it's not. But um but the word count of my translation compared to the word count of the original is so far uh like 20% higher. So the tokip pona translation is quite a bit more verbose than the English translation. And I'm sure that there are are ways to optimize it so that that is not the case. But I didn't want to do that because I don't think that tokyp pono needs to be super concise. I think if tokyp pono needed to be concise, the translation might fail or it might be too difficult to justify the effort going into translating the Bible. And um I I won't say that nobody else is doing this and I'm the only one who's translating the Bible, but the other people who are doing this are doing it way way more slowly than I am.
And I took a break for like a full month at least. Um like the last time I edited this document was like a month ago at least. So like actually let's just check.
Yeah, over a month ago on June 4th was the last time I edited this document.
And I'm I've still translated single-handedly uh about half of the verses as have been translated by this this other larger group of people that and they've been working on their project for way longer than I have. So, and that's that's not because I'm like better than them. That's just because I have put more time and effort into it, which is not like a a quality of goodness. It's just a thing that I have done that they have not done uh as much.
And also I I can read biblical Hebrew and I'm very good at tokyp pono. So I have those I have both of those skills and many people involved in this project either have one skill or the other and only dabble in the other things. So like a lot of the a lot of people in the project uh are very good at tokyp pona but only dabble in biblical Hebrew. So, uh they need help help from someone who speaks biblical Hebrew or that you'll have people who uh are very good at biblical Hebrew. Um like way better than I am, uh even though in my opinion competency with the language is the only thing that's needed. If you have a gloss and you double check when you don't understand things. Um but you have people who like can read it without without needing to double check anything, like automatically know what all the words mean. Um, which is really impressive to me because the usages of these words is sometimes very specific to the verse. Uh, and then these people uh don't know to pontoon very well, most of them. Uh, so that's that's why I'm able to spend more time working on this and kind of like fly through the verses.
I've been translating very slowly today because I've been distractable because I haven't taken my ADHD medication. Uh, yeah.
Baby, I am goated with the sauce. It's been a long time since I've had goat meat. I like it. Okay.
Okay. So, your presence locally in front of I'm going to use sin. Uh, so the reason why I'm doing that is because if I don't add the tasso, it's why should we why should we why should we die?
before you um because the silver is gone. The way that that would come across is is it is that they're they're saying uh that they're answering their own question and saying that they should die in front of him because their silver is gone. What the tasso does is um is it turns the whole thing into like uh why should we die just because our silver is gone? So that's what the just is in the tokip pono translation. that's not in the original text but prevents the tokip pona text from being read in a completely different way which is good.
A goat meat is good. I suggest it. It is called mutton in many cultures including uh in including desi cultures. They when they speak English they call it mutton.
Um even though in other places mutton refers to grown sheep. But it's it's good if you eat meat. It's just as ethical as all the other animals, I guess.
Um, money. Okay. Um, office to cease, to fail, to come to an end. Uh, I'm going to use penie instead of wake up.
because it means to end, not to vanish.
And uh pini means end and wa means vanish.
That's obviously an oversimplification.
All right. All right.
Verse 16. Well, first I'm going to check cuz I'm curious how many people are watching. Surprisingly, several.
A good amount of people are watching.
Maybe when I stream less often, it seems like it's more of a treat to come watch a Monaco stream. I don't know. Uh, but usually when I do these streams, I have about half as many people. Uh, let's see. Yan Ysef.
Okay, this is a new thing that have that they that Bible Hub has. They never used to have this little superscript plus that makes the your plural uh in the glosses. They've added that after the fact to make the gloss, I guess, more accurate a little bit, which is cool.
Good job. Now, people who don't speak Hebrew can tell that it's plural, I guess, but they also can't tell that you've added random stuff that and not marked it as such. This is your first time watching me stream.
Well, I have made a couple of videos since last time I streamed, I think. Um, the reason I haven't been streaming is because it's summer. I don't know if you can hear it. I tried to set up my microphone so that it's so that I'm louder than it, but I have my air conditioning on uh because it's the summer and it gets really hot here in Minnesota in the summer. Uh which you wouldn't expect if you've never been here and never talked to someone from here, but uh summers are the exact opposites of the winter. It gets very hot in Minnesota in the summer. Have I ever watched Dogma 1999? I have not. uh to sell me on it. I guess I probably if it's a movie, I probably won't watch it because I I don't watch a lot of movies. Let's see. Joseph said natan. Okay.
Uh, I will give to you for your livestock if the silver is gone. Oh, okay.
So, is this the same word for livestock?
Yes, it is. Uh, What's happening here is that their their currency the their silverbased currency um KZV right has they've ran out. They've bought all the grain that they could from Joseph and Pharaoh. Um and they're like what what do we do? And Joseph is like give me your livestock and then I'll give you the bread. So now I guess everyone in Egypt is going to be poor.
Okay.
This is like kind of a metaphor for h how agriculture started messing things up w with social stratification by making it bigger. Oh well. Um, I'm actually going to get rid of the money here because I think it's clear from context that there's kind of like a difference between uh animals being used to ex for exchange and currency being used for exchange here. Um, so if I also call the animals currency using the tokyp pono word that's used for currency which can also be used for animals that are used as currency which is happening here then people might people might be like wait but I thought mani was used earlier does that mani also refer to livestock uh in this case if I have a distinction between mani and soi then they will know that uh mani does not refer to soi right because I'm saying Uh I I'm using soi as something that is being used for trade. Uh not everything used for trade needs to be framed directly as money. Uh money is just a a useful word in some contexts where in many societies uh a type of currency shows up and that's sometimes animals and that's definitely the case in this society. But there's also a more direct form of currency. Anyway, where was I?
Um okay. Oh yeah, I not starting over.
Let's see. Uh oh.
Ysef for their horses is weird because it's it's literally in and I'm assuming that this means their horses, but I'm not sure. just seem uh Yep. Wait, no. I I need to check BDB. I don't trust the other ones.
Swallow.
And uh any one of the numerous species of pasarine bird family.
Swift adjective.
Okay, there's a guy apparently. Noun. A swift flying bird. Okay, so this word refers to birds, not horses. At least here.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That's just the first meaning is it refers to bird. The second meaning is that it refers to a horse. And it will tell us if this is the verse where it means that. And it is. Okay.
So, but my my problem with saying loan here is that I don't know what the how this preposition is being used because it means in their horses.
Oh, okay. I I figured I figured out what I need to do. I could do so.
No. Okay. So, my problem here I I is if I was doing just horses and livestock, I would say um they're moving animals and their other animals, but we also have sheep.
And then we have, hold on, these words are exactly the same. They have the same cancellation marking and everything. What?
Bread for the horses and for the livestock of the sheep and for the livestock of the cattle. Oh, livestock of is being used to signify what type of animal it is. So, what I can do is for sheep because they have fur uh that that that is why sheep are used I guess is cuz they have wool. Um cuz that's why they have catalyst for the milk.
That's why you have donkeys so that they can have things.
Okay, so this is and he led them. Let's see where he's leading them. I swear if he sacrifices all of them to Adonai, I'm going to crash out. These people got to stop sacrificing animals to God. Shaking my head. Seems like a shortcut. Like if God really loved you, you wouldn't need to do that, right?
Uh lead go guide to watering place or station.
Cause to rest there. Uh bring to a station or place of rest. Lead guide refresh. Okay.
I'm going to do a controversial thing here in the tokyp pona space and I'm going to use a transitive preposition that is also acting as a preposition, not just a transitive verb. And what I'm going to do is it's the it it means to move something, but I'm gonna say to move something to somewhere by putting the destination in the verb phrase.
Haha.
in a while. Oh, I I used it here. I guess I use Kein more than last time I was translating cuz last time I was translating, I noticed that I like never used keen, but now I do. Uh, let's see.
Pan.
Okay. in that year. That was a long verse and I kind of want to go to bed now and go to sleep forever. So sleepy time, you know. Anyway, okay. And they came to him.
I'm gonna use Kulupu here. And the reason why is because kulipu can kind of use be used as a standin for I mean means a group of people. It refers it can be a singular word one group or a plural word multiple groups but it is always talking about some sort of collection of objects or people. Uh so it can be used very well in translation to distinguish a singular pronoun from a plural one which happens a lot in the Bible. So uh makes sense. It's like okay a group of people is coming to him and then you fill in what the group is. So in a sense it is being used as a preposition even though like lexically it does not fit into the category of preposition. Uh I I think I'd analyze it as a preposition here.
Uh uh me. Okay. to hide.
Okay.
A face.
I I love apaga. It's such a It's such a good Portuguese word. Top top 50 Portuguese words of all time, at least.
Uh erase.
Okay.
Okay. So, it's just is it is it reflexive?
This is PL. Uh I I guess I just hide.
And you might be asking Oh, I have an answer.
So, the reason why I'm saying and over here it's from my lord is because in biblical Hebrew the uh adoni adoni which means my lord is used as a second person formal pronoun. I want to maintain that in my translation but I also want it to be clear that it is a second person pronoun. So I'm using a comma to to clarify the meaning of the usage of cena here is yans we mean and then tani mani and so yeah that's that's uh wait no mani Man, no. Pini pini. I was using pine for that verb. Um the sorry me already la nish. Okay. What does nish mean to remain?
This one's been used before. Remain leftover.
Okay.
Like to remain. Okay.
I'm singing BM say okay here's the thing I already used it once so in I I can just I can just say yansi for the rest of it because people know that cena and yansi are the same thing in first.
So, I'm going to do that.
Instead of saying nothing, I'm gonna say because there's except uh instead of it's going to be Okay, that was a doozy. Why are these all doozies? I I'm almost there. It's it's the final stretch of of the the entire Bible. What What's my percentage?
Almost 92% done with the with the Genesis and then I have to translate Exodus because the Bible's very long. I'm uh 6% done with the Old Testament. It's going to take forever.
It'll be so rewarding when I'm done. And I'm I'm already uh uh about a quarter of the way through the entire Torah. When I'm done with the Torah, you know, you can you can touch the pentatou. That's when I'll publish it.
That Kasi came up with that one. Uh Molly looking me and Min.
Oh, m Mommy power the me and mommy the pian.
and pana pan la and the land not we will be desolate.
Desolate is like everyone's dead.
Deserted of people mala.
So my one problem with using WA here is that it's an it is kind of active in mo most of the time.
Uh Job is Job is a while away. The way that they order it here is not very accurate to how the order that I'm going to be doing it in. But Job goes like way down after all these like after Malachi. They they they order it like this because um the ordering ordering the prophets these prophets directly into Matthew makes it seem like all of these prophets are predicting Jesus. That's not how they're ordered traditionally in Hebrew in like in like Judaism. Um they're actually all before Job and Esther. Uh they're I think they're still after Ezra and Nemiah though. Um and then Esther, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs. Uh these these ones uh come after the ones that in this order are after them. So, Job is a very long way away and the the day that it becomes published in a translation by me and took Pono will be probably a decade away at least. So, uh, don't hold your breath cuz then you'd be holding your breath for 10 years. That would be too much.
Let's see.
Verse 20.
and Ysef Essen Emma Maime H tan tani. Okay. This is is this tani or not?
Cuz for sold out of Egypt every man his field. Okay.
Ma and ish here does literally just mean man like a man but this specific word without the definite article is used to mean every man. So this is actually a good translation even though it's not direct. If it was just man his field that wouldn't make any sense. Uh this is being used to mean every man. Um, I don't know what the of is doing here.
This is just Egypt.
So, And the thing is is over here people might look at this and and think oh means by right um it doesn't and the reason why is because if you something that belongs to you and if that means it belongs to yan right uh then it means you're selling it you have to be you can't buy something that you already have that doesn't make any sense so it it is un here unambiguously being used to mean sell. Um, and it might some people might struggle with that, but it is not ambiguous.
Uh, awesome.
All your favorite books go at the end.
Then I might skip some. I might do it out of order because I I do I do really like um like Esther, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, and also Ruth. I don't know why they put Ruth over here. Uh maybe because they're trying to do it chronologically, but Ruth also goes with those. Uh I also really like Ruth, and I will be translating Ruth, too. Um but like the these are like the quote unquote writings, Katuim, right? The things that are written. Uh they're not about prophets. They're not about history. and necessarily at least I mean some of them might be seen as historical but that's not why they're written and they're not law uh they're they're uh extra writings there wi w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w po poetry and um and religious po it's it's poetic. It's a poetic section. Um not all of it is poetic. Esther is not all that poetic. Job is like 50/50. Psalms is completely poetry. Proverbs is completely poetry. Ecclesiastes is completely poetry. Song of Solomon is completely poetry. Ruth is not.
Oh, and also where is it? It's the Jonah and the whale. Where is Jonah?
Is that here?
I I don't know where Jonah is.
Oh, they put they put Jonah here. Jonah should be here with these guys, I'm pretty sure. Um maybe they maybe Christians interpret Jonah as a prophet which okay Jonah is a prophet but like his story is not about prophecy. His story is about uh when you are a prophet you have to do what God says because he doesn't do what God says and he gets eaten by a fish and then the people say it gets eaten by a whale but it's literally just big fish. Um, what what's the word for fish again?
It's god or something.
Anyway, the he has eaten by a big fish, not a whale. This is not what the word means. Um, which is to say that uh which is to say that it's it's not a story about a prophet telling prophecies. It's a story about a prophet uh not doing what a prophet should do. I guess it's like a parable.
So, I don't know. I don't know what order I'm going to do these in, but I'm I'm on to the first one. I'm I If you translate the Bible, you know, Genesis is coming first, and you know, Exodus is coming next. And then and then I guess I guess Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. But I might not translate those three before I move on because they're boring. It's a list of laws.
Well, there's some interesting stuff that happens story-wise. I don't know. I might do them. Who knows? I cannot read the future. I don't know what future mi's decision will be.
Pi moan.
No, I'm just going to say a so because in Hebrew there is no word for to have. It's just something is to someone. Um there maybe many pe not many but there was a time in tokyp pono spaces where it was pretty popular to not want to use the word yo at all because people didn't think ownership was a thing. I was talking about this earlier but in doing so they would have other constructions. They might say look at me like something is in my hand and if it's not in their hand then they don't own it because there's no such thing as ownership. And as much as I wish that all societies were like that at all times so that like if you needed someone something you could just take it from where it was uh that's not how the society I live in works that's not how uh the society in the Bible works. Um and having the word yo is useful in most societies in the world because um most societies in the world currently uh and many societies historically have subsisted on some form of ownership even if it's different from the one that I'm used to. Right? So I use yo um pretty broadly for like all sorts of ownership even like a conceptual one because why not? How many people are watching now?
six. Okay, that's that's that's more like it. There there were too many people for a while, but now now we're back down to 67, you know. Um Oh, yeah. If you if you search 67 on Google, it moves. And that's funny to me. Um 21 actually. How long have I been streaming? An hour and a half. That's enough. I'm going to end the stream.
Thank you so much for watching, everybody. Um, uh, we got some Bible done, not much of it. Uh, there will be other streams where I very quickly translate because I have taken my medication.
This is not one of them. This one I got distracted, but that's okay. I don't need to be super focused all the time uh, in order to have fun streaming. So, goodbye everybody. Have a have a nice night.
uh you love to watch this this project.
Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it a lot.
I like to work on this project. One day I'll be done with Genesis and I can publish it somewhere and uh and then everyone can um read it and there'll be lots of footnotes in it about the translation um in Tokypona. So like if you if if anything that doesn't anything that gets lost in translation and is major will be put in a footnote. Um like sometimes plant plants are mentioned specific plants. I'll put information about that plant in the footnote etc. It's it's going to be good. It's going to be a good translation. Okay. Goodbye everybody.
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