Grumpy Old Men - UFOs, Ted Turner and 'when to wai' - May 10

Added: 2026-05-12

[00:00:01]If I live forever, I will wait for you.

[00:00:08]>> Thanks.

[00:00:10]>> That's what they're playing on the music.

[00:00:13]>> Written by Michelle Land >> for a movie. I can't remember the name.

[00:00:19]Anyway, there you go.

[00:00:25]Welcome to Grumpy Old Men. Uh, my name is Tim Newton and this is Steve Ross.

[00:00:29]>> Good morning.

[00:00:30]>> Or uh, it could be Rossay.

[00:00:33]>> No, it's Ross.

[00:00:35]>> Well, if you just saw the name, you could go, >> do you come from France?

[00:00:40]>> Happily, we have someone here who is named Ross who can correct you. It is pronounced Ross.

[00:00:47]Now, there is a Steve Ross who is I've said this before, he is the world's most famous tuba player. And if you Google Steve Ro SS E, he comes up, not me. Uh, he has an accent over the E. I think he is Swiss Italian or something. Uh, but born in America and now he plays in the opera house in Sydney. If I went through the telephone book under ros, >> uh, would I how many ros's would I find?

[00:01:15]How many roles e would I find? Well, if you are in Italy or or Switzerland or anywhere Italian is spoken, the word ROSSE means red and it is a fairly common name. But in English speaking, in the English speakaking world, you wouldn't find ROSSE anywhere. It's a madeup name. So, you would find lots of ROSS's and virtually no ROSSE.

[00:01:40]>> I think we've established that you're just special.

[00:01:43]>> I am. I'm very special. Yeah. In a lot of different ways. So we live in a little town called Taung in um Panga in Thailand about 3540 minutes north of the Puket International Airport. We're basically on the mainland not on the island.

[00:02:01]>> Yeah.

[00:02:01]>> And um we're today in a golf course in in the restaurant of a golf course.

[00:02:08]>> Phoning it in.

[00:02:10]>> Yeah. We're tired of trying to think of a place to go. So it's close. I like the food here very much. It's got good air conditioning.

[00:02:17]>> It's got good air conditioning and it's a lovely view. It's everything's greened up. We've had about 5 days of rain and uh everything's greened up.

[00:02:26]>> Well, let let's say we've had rain on each of the five days. It's lasted for about 10 15 minutes, but it has been very heavy.

[00:02:35]>> Yes, brief heavy rainstorms. There's a sort of tropical dumps >> and my front porch every morning is covered with wings because all the insects take you see that one right there on the window. They're taking this opportunity to come out mate and they they lose their wings after they mate.

[00:02:53]So the light the porch light attracts them and uh they come and they do their thing and then they drop their wings and they crawl back into their burrows. My pool is full of winged little uh insects. Yeah. Flying ants and things >> and they they land on you if you're trying to work in your living room as I do. Uh and it's just part of living in Thailand.

[00:03:16]>> Right. Good. Uh which is a great segue for absolutely nothing.

[00:03:20]>> Absolutely nothing.

[00:03:20]>> I've got a few things.

[00:03:21]>> We like living here. Thanks for watching. See you.

[00:03:24]>> I was going to I've got UFOs and Ted Turner on my list this week. May I very briefly wish my mother and all the other mothers out there a happy Mother's Day.

[00:03:35]It is Mother's Day today, a Sunday in the United States and Australia too, I think.

[00:03:40]>> Yeah.

[00:03:41]>> And uh mom, if you're watching this, I don't know if you still watch this or not.

[00:03:46]>> Uh but happy Mother's Day. I miss you and uh I hope you have a great day. And all the other mothers out there, too. I can afford to be generous. It costs me nothing. Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there. So, which countries?

[00:03:59]A lot of western countries have Mother's Day today.

[00:04:03]>> A tradition started in Oh, that would be fascinating. Have no idea.

[00:04:08]>> But here in Thailand, it's a different day. I think it's based on the >> birthday of the queen, the just passed queen mother >> Sakits, the Queen Sakit. August 12th is Mother's Day. December 5th traditionally has been Father's Day for the same reason. Uh, I think that is still the case. Uh, uh, my children don't wish me a father's day on any date, so I I don't know. But, uh, traditionally August 12th and December 5th here in Thailand. Every day is Steve Roster.

[00:04:41]>> Yeah. Damn straight. Every day. Yeah. I haven't received anything in the mail in a long, long time. Viewers, you're dropping the ball.

[00:04:48]>> Somebody uh was sending me They're sending me some books.

[00:04:51]>> Oh, cool. Uh, books are good.

[00:04:53]>> Michael or somebody. Oh, sorry if I got your name wrong. Uh, but thank you very much. They're sending them tomorrow and they said Tim Newton sort of tongue. I said, "Oh, I better give you a bit of extra information. I don't think it's like Steve Ross."

[00:05:06]>> Was it the Queensland Tiger?

[00:05:08]>> Um, he said he was sending me something and asked me to clarify my address.

[00:05:14]>> If you're sending from outside the United States, >> Michael >> don't know Michael.

[00:05:20]If you're sending from out Sorry. Yeah, it's a nervous tick. If you're sending from outside of Thailand, it will come to me if it just says Steve Ross, Turtle Beach, Thailand.

[00:05:31]Uh if you're in Thailand, they'll send it back for a lack of a complete address, but they can't send it back if it comes from outside the country. So, they go through the steps to find Steve Ross and bring it to me with just that very abbreviated address.

[00:05:48]>> And there's no such thing as Turtle Beach in Thailand. It's a it's an invention.

[00:05:53]>> It's all it only exists here. Yeah. It is a philosophy. It is a point of view.

[00:05:58]>> Now, there is somebody who does no longer call Turtle Beach home.

[00:06:04]>> Um who used to live uh he lived for about I don't know 18 months in the along the the beach.

[00:06:10]>> I'm thinking and he he did make uh the person we will not mention his name. No.

[00:06:16]Uh but uh he did a few improvements to the house right along the beach road, you know, the the sort of Paris section of uh Pman. Not like the second road people.

[00:06:28]>> Morning Rob.

[00:06:29]>> Yeah.

[00:06:30]>> Uh so he had a bit of a runin. What what what was the runin he had, Steve?

[00:06:36]>> Well, apparently so so our beach road, there's beach on one side and no houses.

[00:06:41]It's a national park and it's just all green sward and then the sand and the sea. Green what? Green swad. Swad. S w a r d. Green sward. You've never heard that?

[00:06:52]>> Never heard it.

[00:06:52]>> You got to read your Shakespeare, dude.

[00:06:54]So on the other side of the road is where we live. That's where the houses in the neighborhood and the village are.

[00:07:00]And so this young man took a a house as as we have done on the the the side of the road that has houses and he put money into fixing it up because most of the properties here are very rundown.

[00:07:13]Nobody's put any money into them since 1987 when it was all declared a national park. He invested in the house, made it kind of nice and livable and lived here very happily for 18 months. And then apparently, and this is all, you know, neighborhood gossip, but this town runs on neighborhood gossip. So some lady came, as they do, and put a a a fruit and vegetable stall on the other side of the road from his house, just a tarp strung between four trees and a couple folding tables and some plastic chairs and some styrofoam ice chests. and she was selling, you know, fish and guppy and fruit and a couple hands of bananas and a coconut and stuff. Anyway, this apparently blocked his view of the ocean. So, he went out there at 3:00 in the morning and threw all allegedly allegedly and threw all of her stuff in the ocean, her chairs, her tables, her styrofoam coolers and such. And this being Thailand, >> it would have been a good idea unless >> this is Thailand in 2026 and there are cameras everywhere. All of these beat up, broken down little houses on our beach road all have a Ring doorbell camera. And so he was seen on about three different cameras doing this vandalism.

[00:08:30]>> Whoops.

[00:08:31]>> So the police took him down to the police station and talked to him and as I understand it, the price tag was 30,000 bot. Half to the police and half to the lady. And uh >> I heard 25,000, but >> whatever it was, you you pay your way out of jail, but in this case, he was told, "You're no longer welcome here. Go home, put everything in your car, and leave right now."

[00:08:54]>> And so he did. And we never never got to say goodbye to the guy. Just poof, his house is empty and on the market, and he's gone, and his dog's gone. And that lady has not opened her shop since he left. Uh the tarp is still kind of hanging off three trees. I think she's taken her 15,000 bot. She's having a little holiday and uh she's not going to open up, you know, before she needs money again.

[00:09:21]>> So there you go. That's that's how it how it rolls here in Thailand. Yeah.

[00:09:26]>> Or at least this part of Thailand.

[00:09:28]>> Or he would have probably been able to make a a counter offer. Uh but perhaps maybe he didn't know that uh that might work.

[00:09:38]>> Uh maybe he didn't speak to the right person. Maybe he didn't open his pockets wide enough. Uh >> maybe he was rude when they said come downtown and talk with us. If you are rude to anybody in uniform, your life gets really crappy real quick. Don't don't be rude to anybody in khaki, man.

[00:09:55]Don't. Uhuh.

[00:09:57]>> So, uh I just wanted to mention in passing the passing of Mr. Ted Turner this week. Now Ted Turner is a is a big American character >> was >> and was he died this week. Yes.

[00:10:10]>> Um I don't know famous for Turner Classics, the >> the TNT.

[00:10:18]>> That is the channel my mother watches. I think he has a few channels. CNN being the flagship channel and Turner Classic Movies TCM where he experimented with colorizing classic black and white films. And boy, did that fail. Boy, the public just really got upset about that.

[00:10:36]>> Good idea.

[00:10:37]>> I don't know. I It might have seemed like a good idea at the time. Uh but the the audience told him very quickly, "No, we the people who are interested in those old black and white films >> have seen them a hundred times in black and white." And it's offputting to see Gone with the Wind or Casablanca.

[00:10:57]>> Gone with the Wind. Gone with the Wind is in color, >> is it? Oh, sure it is. Sure it is. I'm sorry. It's in technical.

[00:11:03]>> So, you know, uh to see the first 10 minutes of The Wizard of Oz in color, it's it's off-putting.

[00:11:09]>> Uh well, the fact that the first 10 minutes of the Wizard of Oz is in black and white is actually part of the story.

[00:11:15]>> Mhm.

[00:11:16]>> Storytelling. Anyway, um >> and the last few minutes cuz when she goes home, it's in black and white again. How did they do the transition when she the the house has landed after the tornado and she opens up the door and walks into Oz?

[00:11:31]>> How did they do that? I know how they did it.

[00:11:34]>> Okay. I don't I I know how I I could make a guess, but you you tell us how.

[00:11:39]>> Well, of course, she's in in sepia tone when uh she's that that first 10 minutes of the movie when she's in >> Kansas. Yes. before she's not in Kansas anymore.

[00:11:51]>> Um, so there's the scene where the the cameras does a sort of a slow zoom towards the door as Dorothy opens the door with her back to the camera and then you see the color of the Land of Oz beyond. It must have been a magic moment in the cinema.

[00:12:07]>> Yes.

[00:12:08]>> In those very early days of of color. A wow moment.

[00:12:11]>> But what they did because of course it's one shot.

[00:12:14]>> So what they did is they made everything inside the house. They painted it sepia.

[00:12:19]They painted it black and white. And it wasn't Dorothy. It was uh somebody who uh was looked like Dorothy, but they made her in sepia tone. So her red and white gingham dress, blue and white gingham dress. Uh they just made it gray and white.

[00:12:36]>> So that's how they did it.

[00:12:38]>> Practical effects.

[00:12:38]>> Practical effects. There was no CGI. I would have thought Ted Turner had a great idea of colorizing those old movies, but they just looked shabby. The colorizing was pretty. But these days with AI, you could probably do it very convincingly, sharpen it up, clean up the frame rates, and uh and and maybe improve the sound.

[00:13:04]You you could get a a a more than acceptable, slightly altered result. But yeah, people would.

[00:13:12]>> What would be the end? Why what would be your goal in doing that?

[00:13:17]>> Making it more viewable for a modern audience.

[00:13:20]>> Okay. See, now I think to get that modern audience, you're facing hurdles greater than black and white. First of all, that modern audience doesn't have an attention span that'll sit through a 90minute or 2-hour movie. And second of all, the things that happen in those old movies are triggering to that modern audience. the way people treat each other, the things that are taken for granted, the crows in Dumbo, right? The way the way minorities and women and and and people with disabilities are treated in those old movies will drive away that modern audience quicker and more surely, I think, than the fact that they are in black and white.

[00:13:59]>> I think that's not what's problematic in this day and age. I watch I grew up watching a lot of those movies, not only from the United States, but from the UK and in Australia, of course.

[00:14:11]>> And I didn't get triggered by any of those things because they weren't things. They weren't things that we worried about so much.

[00:14:19]>> You're not the modern audience.

[00:14:22]>> Yeah.

[00:14:22]>> Yeah. the modern audience gets triggered easily.

[00:14:25]>> But I think you know the modern audience could watch them knowing that the context is this this original movie was made back in the 1930s or the 1940s but uh you it might hold their attention if it is sharper in color and the sound is a bit more audible. I I don't know.

[00:14:44]Um yeah I think you're giving them more credit than they are due. You know the argument is still being made in the United States. Your shirt says, "I read banned books." Uh, the n-word shows up in Huckleberry Finn, which is often lauded as the best American novel ever written.

[00:15:01]>> Why do you say the N-word?

[00:15:04]>> Well, because it is Well, I don't think I have ever said the actual word.

[00:15:10]>> It's very triggering for Americans.

[00:15:12]>> Yeah. I don't think I've ever said that word. I can't I can't remember. My mother, you know, was an old beatnick and I don't think she would have ever let me use that kind of term in the house. Certainly uh but uh that book Huckleberry Finn, there are people who want to take it out of school libraries because or boulderize it or or go in and pull the word out cuz it appears something like 140 times in the novel and and and students if it's assigned in a class now, high school students will bulk at it and say, "I ain't reading this. It's all full of the N-word." And so, yeah, that's a constant argument that's going on.

[00:15:54]>> Yeah. The really important things in the United States.

[00:15:58]>> So, let's go into uh the uh so I just wanted to mention the passing of Ted Turner. I Well, I didn't quite meet him, but he was at the 1983 America's Cup in Rhode Island. Uh which is a beautiful place. It must be an island, but I can't sort of remember.

[00:16:15]>> No, it's not.

[00:16:16]>> It's not an island. No, >> I went across a bridge on Naraganset Bay or something.

[00:16:22]>> Well, I correct me if I'm wrong. My my impression has always been that no, it's called Rhode Island, but it's not actually an island. But maybe it is.

[00:16:31]Maybe there's a river, you know, like the only thing that makes Manhattan an island is it's got two rivers that go on either side of it. So, so maybe it is.

[00:16:39]Correct me if I'm wrong. I've never been there.

[00:16:41]>> You could say the same about Phuket. I mean, it's separated from the mainland by about 300 meters, >> which is just the the width of a, you know, a wide river.

[00:16:50]>> Yeah.

[00:16:51]>> And they dredge it continuously to make sure it is kept separate from the mainland.

[00:16:57]>> Uh, but it should be called Cop Phuket, but it's it's not. It's just called Phuket. It is a province and it is a um an island.

[00:17:06]>> Anyway, we move on. So, uh, well, yes, Ted Turner, I he was at the 1983 America's Cup, uh, which was a sort of the pinnacle of sailing at the time, racing these beautiful 12 m yachts. and he won the America's Cup in 1977 uh in a boat called Courageous and he was also a competitor in 1974 in a boat called Mariner which was a very radical design which had a sort of a thick bustle and step at either end.

[00:17:41]>> He does it to me. I get to do it.

[00:17:43]>> That's fine. Well, you don't.

[00:17:46]uh I won't go to do with the American uh 12 m rule but it sort of basically was sort of quite blunt at each end and Ted Turner after losing in this very slow boat said at the media conference uh even shits pointed at each end. Uh so uh yeah he he was quite a character >> and he famously started CNN which in those days was uh got very quickly known as uh doing a lot of oh 24-hour news which was radical for the time >> and their coverage of the Gulf Wars uh was really sort of put them on the map and I still maintain that they do some of the best international coverage people like Christian Emor excellent journalists Who was the guy up on a roof in was it Baghdad or And and he's he was broadcasting live from the roof of a building in uh was it Ba I think it was Baghdad and the missile started coming in over him as he's speaking live on the air and that was just a gift from God to Ted Turner and CNN that that war and people getting to watch the bombs falling in real time from America live watching this reporter with the the streaks going over his head.

[00:19:04]>> I can see it.

[00:19:05]>> What the hell was his name? Oh, man.

[00:19:08]That was the war. You >> tell us, won't you?

[00:19:10]>> Yeah. That was the war that forced me to leave Phuket. Uh, and uh changed my life tremendously.

[00:19:17]>> Why did it force you to leave Phuket?

[00:19:20]>> Because in those days, tourists were skddish. If there was a war anywhere in the world, >> uh people would cancel all their travel plans. And certainly at that time the primary way to get to Thailand from Europe was flying through Riyad. And there was nothing flying through Riyad but meals ready to eat. And uh so Phuket just emptied out like someone pulled a flush lover. Flush lever. All the tourists left. The hotels uh sent their staff back to the rice fields and I was making a living teaching English in the hotels >> and writing for Phuket magazine. Puket >> the Yeah. And Phuket magazine stopped paying the writers because the advertisers stopped paying Phuket magazine because there were no tourists reading the magazine. So I had to go back to the United States for a year and that threw my life in the gutter for a long long time. That [ __ ] me up really good.

[00:20:15]>> Um but here you are.

[00:20:16]>> You can read about it in a book.

[00:20:18]>> Which book, Steve?

[00:20:19]>> Leaving Thailand by Steve Ross.

[00:20:21]>> And if you'd like a link to uh Steve's books, they're in the description of this video. You can order them on Amazon.

[00:20:27]>> That was smoothly done. I know.

[00:20:29]>> It's like we've done this before.

[00:20:31]>> That was a segue. That was That was an actual segue.

[00:20:34]>> Uh, okay. So, I've got another really weird thing to talk about.

[00:20:38]>> Okay.

[00:20:39]>> Uh, UFOs >> or is they now called because Americans love to come up UAP.

[00:20:47]>> UAP.

[00:20:48]>> Unidentified anomalous phenomenon.

[00:20:53]>> Oh my. Um, but in both cases, the first word says it all. The U stands for unidentified, and that's really where it sort of starts and finishes. However, there are some people, most notably fellow citizens of your home country, uh, who just seem to be obsessed with these things. And there have been many, many sightings.

[00:21:23]A lot of them, strangely, are Ian farmers.

[00:21:29]>> Yeah. When we get tired of tipping cows, we get abducted.

[00:21:32]>> Yeah.

[00:21:33]>> And then not only abducted, apparently >> probed. Probed.

[00:21:38]>> And not only probed, but anally probed.

[00:21:40]>> Yeah. Yeah. It's lonely out on the farm.

[00:21:43]>> Sure.

[00:21:45]>> Well, I would point out it's not strictly American. The TV show UFO was a British show.

[00:21:51]>> Oh, yes, it was. And it's all available.

[00:21:53]All the episodes are on YouTube for free.

[00:21:56]>> Favorite TV show at the time.

[00:21:57]>> Oh, it's it's it's a lot of camp fun.

[00:22:00]It's uh the acting is really bad. The writing is worse. Uh the direction, the cinematography, but man, those girls and that purple hair and the and the skimpy little outfits.

[00:22:10]>> Oh yeah.

[00:22:11]>> Moon base. Oh my god. Yeah. For some reason, the the most useful uniform for a person working on the moon is a purple wig.

[00:22:20]>> Yeah. and a bikini.

[00:22:22]>> Yeah, apparently that's in zero or in 16g. That is that is the the clothing to wear.

[00:22:29]>> And the uh the the submarines, they were just as skimpy, but they used to have these >> fishnet fishnets.

[00:22:35]>> Yeah. Yeah. And you had you you'd get right up on the TV and look close for nipples if you were a lonely uh Iowa kid.

[00:22:43]>> Yeah. At any rate, but yes, we do uh it it tends to happen out in the farm country and uh it tends to be people who uh have have lead dull lives and want a little something exciting to talk about and so they get uh you know until the men in black come and wipe their memories to talk about that. So this week uh the the current administration released uh a number I think it was 190 new documents relating to uh these I'll just call them UFOs because uh I think most of us relate to that. Is that art out there playing?

[00:23:19]>> I'm trying to >> in the pink.

[00:23:22]>> In the pink or in the black?

[00:23:23]>> I think it's art in the pink.

[00:23:25]>> No, Art doesn't walk like that.

[00:23:28]>> That that gentleman has hip problems.

[00:23:30]That that man in pink has hip problems.

[00:23:32]I don't think >> it's Art's friend.

[00:23:34]>> Might be Art's friend and his friend, >> but I think Art's in the black. I think Art's been losing a lot of weight. And that's him in the black.

[00:23:40]>> Okay. Well, he's looking good.

[00:23:41]>> That's how many people golf at the Aquala is that we can we can identify individual golfers out a quarter mile.

[00:23:48]>> Are the only people out there Sunday morning?

[00:23:52]>> That's the last hole.

[00:23:53]>> Maybe.

[00:23:54]>> Uh that must be cuz it's >> Come in here when he's done. We'll ask him.

[00:23:58]>> We'll hear all about it. Um so uh yes UFOs now out of these 190 documents of course all the let's call them enthusiasts have been pouring over these documents looking at points of light and fuzzy things and black and white and wobbling cameras and they go ah there you go there you go that proves it.

[00:24:20]>> I'm thinking they're just fuzzy bits of light and uh they are the U in UFO.

[00:24:28]They're just unidentified.

[00:24:30]>> Yeah.

[00:24:31]>> And I'm thinking, and I I have to share this with you.

[00:24:34]>> Okay.

[00:24:35]>> Uh it would have been in 1970, let me get this right 4 1974.

[00:24:44]And I was in boarding school, of course.

[00:24:47]>> And uh we were walking back from studies at um this would have been about uh 6:30, 7:00 at night. And we all saw there was about 10 of us this well if you hold your thumb up it was at least the size of your thumb.

[00:25:04]Uh so it was quite big and it looked like it was probably about a kilometer 2 kilometers away one and a half miles and um it was an orange sort of spherical thing with a a a little tail thing and a flashing light. I'm thinking if you're an alien, you're trying to sort of sneak into Earth, you wouldn't have flashing lights.

[00:25:28]>> Flashing lights are not a good idea because it tends to attract attention.

[00:25:32]And we all stared at it. We all went, "Oh my god, that's you cuz we used to watch UFO on the TV. That that's a UFO."

[00:25:39]And we're all going, "Oh, oh, oh, oh, look at that." And uh, of course, we didn't have phones in those days where we go click, click, click, and none of us had our sort of box brownie in our pocket. So, um, we actually ended up, uh, some other people in the the town reported it to the local, not the local, but one of the TV stations and channel 10, I think they were channel O in those days. They came down and interviewed us and we were going, "Wow, we're on TV."

[00:26:06]And it must still exist on some bit of videotape somewhere. And we were, you know, pointing and standing in the um the school car park where we were at the time, uh, describing and other people in the town also described it. But in my mind, I never took that leap of logic thinking that I've just seen something strange in the sky. Oh, it must be little green men from outer space. I never took that leap of logic. I just thought, "Wow, I wonder what that is."

[00:26:38]>> You haven't watched enough 1950s science fiction.

[00:26:41]>> But I I did. I watched Clut and Gort and what did they say?

[00:26:47]>> Clatu Barata Niktu. There you go.

[00:26:49]>> Yeah. The day the earth stood still. Uh well, yeah, it it it's lost in space.

[00:26:54]>> Basically, you know, there there's a very famous incident that happened in Australia where a bunch of school kids saw uh some sort of sighting and they went into the woods. They saw this thing come down and they went into the woods and saw where it had landed and there were trees and so the town has built a little metal sort of play structure of of of the thing. It's a very famous incident but it's much like what you describe. I've never I've never seen anything.

[00:27:24]>> No one's built a monument for us. We were on TV and everything.

[00:27:28]>> I don't know. You know, Moulder and Scully, they debunked all of that stuff.

[00:27:32]But I think you know if my my my thought is that the universe is a huge huge place and that means two things. First of all, it's very unlikely that we're the only sentient race, the only sentient species in the universe. But it also means the universe is so huge the chances of any two sentient species coming together and meeting each other would be just infinite decimal. The distances are just too huge. So I think you know that both camps are are probably a little bit right.

[00:28:06]>> Well, we know a few things from modern physics that as Einstein sort of speculated and then proved that you can't go faster than the speed of light.

[00:28:21]The speed of light is 300,000 kilometers/s.

[00:28:25]>> I'm taking notes.

[00:28:26]>> Which is 186,000 miles per second. And uh so if you were going to travel from here to the moon at the speed of light, it would take you about 1.6 seconds.

[00:28:39]And so when the people on the moon communicated with the people on Earth, it took about 1 and 1/2 seconds for that message to get here. And then when NASA speaks back to them, it takes it. So that was that little bit of delay.

[00:28:53]>> It's like a Zoom meeting. Uh but if you were to go to Mars for example because those communications can travel only at the speed of light it would take apparently some many many se several minutes apparently.

[00:29:10]Now the closest star to our solar system is alpha alpha proxima >> alpha >> and it would take you if you were traveling at the speed of light 4.2 two years to get there. And so at the moment the rockets that we have and the technology we have is at a tiny fraction of that sort of speed. So any interstellar inter between galaxies well in between galaxies would be impossible.

[00:29:43]It takes like a 100,000 light years 100,000 years for light to travel from one side to the other of our galaxy. And there's billions of galaxies and each of those galaxies has got billions of stars and we know that most of the stars we can see have got planets orbiting them.

[00:30:03]So yes, there is probably no doubt that life may develop on other parts. Whether it's ever going to become sentient life, that's that's a it appears to be improbable.

[00:30:20]What kind of visa will the aliens get if they visit Thailand?

[00:30:24]>> Uh, they'd have to apply for a V. They'd have to apply doc. They'd have to provide documentation proving that they had a trip back home. They had a return ticket going home. Yes.

[00:30:36]>> Do you have enough antimatter in your uh dithium crystals to to take you home?

[00:30:40]>> So, look, I think we've um we've dined out well. Hollywood's dined out well on the whole idea. We >> sure have. But at the moment, >> I loved every minute of it. ET, the extraterrestrial. Oh god, I love that movie. Well, I saw it on Acid the first time, but >> love that movie. Love that movie. But as far as we know today in 2026, there is one sentient race in the universe and there is zero evidence of any other sentient race.

[00:31:13]Well, there are other sentient beasts on on Earth.

[00:31:17]>> Yes, I was corrected on this. I don't know if it was here. Sentience and sapiens because we are homo sapiens. So, selfawareness is what we're we're talking about, but sentience means able to perceive the universe around you. So, cats, dogs, fish, >> whereas germs cannot do. We assume germs don't perceive the world. But we are sentient uh sapient. We are aware of ourselves and our place in the world.

[00:31:45]But yeah, as far as we know, we're the we're the only one.

[00:31:48]>> Yeah. And and that is quite that is more scary than the idea of other races of intelligence somewhere in the universe that we might be >> the only one >> the only that this whole universe >> has uh created itself. Oh, here we go.

[00:32:08]uh exists for just us and that is really scary.

[00:32:13]>> I don't want that responsibility.

[00:32:15]>> So stop getting into the minuté of uh your visa or uh the cost of whatever. Enjoy what you've got because this life might be the only one you've got.

[00:32:27]>> YOLO.

[00:32:28]>> And the lights might go out soon enough and uh you've had your one chance.

[00:32:33]>> Yeah.

[00:32:34]>> All right. from there. What do you think about the whole UAP thing? Uh the all these documents that came out and people going, "Oh, Area 51."

[00:32:45]Thailand has got a sort of a tenuous link with UFOs. They're not so much into the little green men, but they've got different UAPs, which are linked to ghosts and spiritual beings and sort of Buddhism and stuff. Um there's that uh Damakaya temple which is north of uh Puk Phuket, Bangkok and it looks like a a flying saucer and just north of there is an area where there have been a lot of sightings of blurry flying lights and things. It's called Kala I think. And then there is the um the the Nuga Balls up on the Meong River. Have you heard about that one? where they may these lights rise out of the Meong and then up into the sky >> and it happens once a year >> and that's been speculated as some sort of gas rising from the bottom of the Meong or people on the other side in Laos going something that uh and people in Thailand going uh so nobody really knows what that is but again it's unidentified and uh to take that leap of logic because It's unidentified to assume that it's uh something to do with Star Trek.

[00:34:06]>> I don't get it.

[00:34:08]>> What's Captain Kirk say? Uh I'm from Iowa. I just work in space.

[00:34:13]>> He works Iowa.

[00:34:14]>> Riverside, Iowa. There you go.

[00:34:16]>> They have a plaque. They have a convention every year. Trekcon Trefest.

[00:34:21]>> And they have a plaque in the town, a big marble plinth, and it says future birthplace of James Tiberius Kirk. And I have a photograph of me standing there holding a science fiction, an Australian science fiction magazine in which I had a story. I sold a story, a piece of fiction. And I carried that magazine to Riverside and and took a picture next to that plinth.

[00:34:44]>> So I'm not the only Australian that's been conned by you.

[00:34:47]>> No, no, no, no, no.

[00:34:49]>> Um, >> what the hell was the name of that magazine? God.

[00:34:52]>> Popular Mechanics. Um, >> I forget. I forget now.

[00:34:55]>> Have to have the word digy do in it.

[00:34:57]>> 20 years ago. No, I didn't.

[00:34:59]>> Kangaroo.

[00:35:01]>> The editor was a woman named Cat and she and I >> Oh, Cat.

[00:35:04]>> Good old Cat. K. She and I corresponded for years and years and years.

[00:35:08]>> I knew Cat knew Cat well.

[00:35:10]>> Sure.

[00:35:10]>> Um, so, uh, we got a bit more time before Steve got it wrong because God knows we could fill an entire program, >> uh, with things that you got wrong.

[00:35:20]>> Sure, we could. We'll go now to Nurell's Notebook brought to you by White Labs Thailand. And Trent reached out to me by email uh this week and said that a few of our viewers had approached him, had contacted his company for product, and they were pleased with with what they had received and he was grateful uh for our mention. And I just I I yeah, thank you uh to the listeners who followed my suggestions. Uh, you know what occurred to me? You had you had been talking about how >> Well, we're allowed to say what White Labs makes.

[00:35:56]>> Are we the C word? Can we say cannabis?

[00:35:59]>> They sell cannabis, >> but medical they make med medicinal cannabis.

[00:36:03]>> Medical grade maybe we call it. He's he's following the rules. That is that is what the government, >> the Thai government right now intends.

[00:36:11]And you know, I don't know how many, but a certain proportion of the dispensaries that are currently operating are following that guidance. and a certain number are not. And just saying, "Yeah, no, we've been doing it this way for >> the one along that bank."

[00:36:25]>> Yeah. Oh, our beach, our beach is the wild west. There's there's no there's no sort of control. There's no uh I'm certain he doesn't have a license and it's just all Yeah, it's wild west. We have one one cannabis store on our beach and he does what he wants as his family has on that beach for eight generations.

[00:36:44]>> Allegedly.

[00:36:45]>> Allegedly. Uh, so you had mentioned last week we have very few pages left and it occurred to me >> Nurel's notebook is the closest thing to a diary I have ever kept in my life.

[00:36:59]I've never kept a I've never had the what do I want to say that I don't know I' I've just never kept a diary too boring really.

[00:37:08]>> Well that's it. Yeah, that's it. And I hate to write longhand. I have spent too much time on a keyboard. I absolutely hate uh as you can probably tell to to write longhand. It it is illeible even to myself.

[00:37:22]>> You write in caps. You don't write mostly cursive >> and it takes me forever. I'm just terrible with So anyway, uh I've never kept one. This this is what we've talked about every single week since what do we say? April of I didn't write dates on Oh, 24. March of 24. So, uh, two years, two solid years of, uh, our life. How about that? Uh, so thank you, Narell. Uh, it's an interesting experience.

[00:37:50]>> Two years of what Steve has got wrong.

[00:37:52]>> Yeah. Two years of Steve Got it wrong.

[00:37:53]And we've got some more of those today.

[00:37:55]Yes.

[00:37:55]>> If you enjoy those, >> uh, oh, we'll start with one. Uh, I had said we I had talked about I I had seen all three iterations of Dune. I watched a viewer Clint sent them to me and I watched them on my laptop. the David Lynch version, >> which is in the shop. My laptop uh has gone in for repairs. So, I won't be responding to anybody in the comment section of this episode because I'd have to do it on my phone and I just can't be bothered. I hate using the phone for anything uh except holding up a corner of the table. And by the way, your your your wad of paper is still down there holding up this table. What do you use your phone for? I I got it. It's an iPhone, an expensive iPhone. I I got it to make YouTube videos when I was doing that, >> but I don't I don't make YouTube videos anymore. So, I don't really use it for anything. I I'll if I go looking for it, the battery is usually dead when I find it. Uh if I'm going on like if if Chamnan's going to take me in the in the Samlaw to Kokoy, it's about 20 minutes away. And I'll sit in the the side car of his motorcycle cuz I don't own a vehicle. And uh for a trip like that, I'll put the phone in my pocket in case I need to call 911 or something in case I need to make an emergency call. I'll I'll carry it and make sure it's charged. But for the most part, if I just go to dinner or something, I don't carry it. I brought it here today. I don't know why. But at any rate, so I'm not going to be talking back to you guys this week. Don't be offended. Uh, it just means I'm not going to do it with my thumbs because I hate that. But I was going to say that this year Apple apparently are bringing out a folding phone which might be called the iPhone fold or the iPhone >> something or other.

[00:39:53]>> Oh, that's clever, isn't it?

[00:39:55]>> Used to write advertising.

[00:39:57]>> Uh, spelled P H O L D.

[00:40:00]>> Oo. Oo.

[00:40:01]>> Uh, why aren't we employed by Tim Cook?

[00:40:05]>> I ain't going to be employed by anybody ever again. I am done with working.

[00:40:08]>> So, uh, yeah, I'm I'm I think I'm going to get it. It would be perfect for for what I I need it.

[00:40:15]>> Mhm. Okay.

[00:40:16]>> I have to buy because everything in my ecology of um my sort of digital ecology is is I >> is Apple.

[00:40:27]>> Well, you may have my portion of all of that. I don't want it or need it.

[00:40:31]>> There you go.

[00:40:32]>> But last week, uh, I had said I had seen all three iterations of Dune and I said the one in 84 is still, uh, is not the worst. Uh, cuz the the the Sci-Fi Network 2000 production is the worst.

[00:40:47]>> Looked pretty hot.

[00:40:48]>> Oh, it was awful. It's just the costumes, especially the clothes. I don't know what was happening. That guy was in his sility. was quite old who designed the clothes and he just didn't know what he was working on and it's terrible. It looks horrible. It looks like cir sole. It's absolutely horrible.

[00:41:05]But at anyway, and I mentioned that if you look at the effects in the David Lynch 84 movie, they don't stand up to what had come out before Star Trek, Star Wars. I mentioned Star Trek Next Generation. And about five people said that came out in ' 87, 3 years after Dune. So, I got the dates wrong on Star Trek Next Generation. Steve got it wrong.

[00:41:28]>> Do you mention that last week?

[00:41:31]>> Did I?

[00:41:31]>> Yes, you did.

[00:41:32]>> Was that a Steve got it wrong last week?

[00:41:33]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:41:34]>> Oh, dear.

[00:41:36]>> Uh oh.

[00:41:38]>> Oh, >> did I mention that Javier Barm is not black or Middle Eastern?

[00:41:43]>> Yes, you did.

[00:41:44]>> Holy crap. Oh, wait.

[00:41:49]Oh, whoops. What's the date today?

[00:41:52]>> Today is the 10th of May.

[00:41:55]>> Oh, okay. New page. Sorry.

[00:41:59]>> Yeah. I don't remember what happened a week ago. I don't remember what I said a week ago.

[00:42:03]>> What'd you have for breakfast?

[00:42:04]>> There is The FBI does have an office in Thailand. You had said this is a Tim got it wrong. You had said there's no FBI in Thailand. Oh, we don't do this.

[00:42:11]>> The guy just just brought just wrote a book. The former FBI director uh at the Thail branch. He was interviewed I think by was it Pete at Tyrish Times? Anyway, he is the former he's just written a book about uh primarily about the David Keredine case, the actor who was found in autoerotic esphyxiation in a Bangkok hotel room. D Keith Keredine or David Keredine?

[00:42:39]>> I can't remember.

[00:42:41]>> Oh well, at any rate, so it's about >> was he the kung fu guy?

[00:42:44]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:42:45]>> Okay. and he died in very ignoble uh circumstances. We had an Australian singer doing the same thing.

[00:42:51]>> Yeah, it's it's risky business. Risky business.

[00:42:55]>> And uh at any rate, so there is FBI in Thailand and you can read all about it.

[00:43:00]I didn't bother to look up the name of his book, but I'm sure if you Google FBI in Thailand recent book, it'll it'll come up for you. because of all those years when uh Thailand was sort of near Vietnam and V the Vietnam War was a thing and for 20 years that would be the reason that there would be an FBI. They would have been keeping an eye on the the locals.

[00:43:27]>> H maybe that's interesting.

[00:43:29]>> Uh people are now jumping on their keyboards.

[00:43:33]>> I will mention Mother's Day.

[00:43:35]>> How do you spell FBI? Uh F >> B. I can't remember the third one. No.

[00:43:42]>> Um I had mentioned Oh, Mother's Day.

[00:43:44]Happy Mother's Day, Mom.

[00:43:45]>> You said that at the start.

[00:43:46]>> I know, but it's on the top of the page, so I'm going to read it. Uh I had mentioned last week that when I was a kid, I had a bunch of birthday parties at Disneyland, and that my relatives who worked there would collect the old books with the leftover less attractive tickets for the less attractive rides.

[00:44:05]And that way my mother could have a birthday party for >> bought by the less attractive people.

[00:44:09]>> Yeah. Well, that's my family. Uh 10 kids could go to Disneyland virtually for free. Uh but they could only ride the crappy rides. And I had said that the A tickets were the best and the E tickets were the worst. And in fact, the A were the worst and the E tickets were the best.

[00:44:27]>> So what is the difference between an A and an E ticket? Does the A ticket get you more rides? The A ticket gets you on the teacups. You know the teacups?

[00:44:37]>> Yeah.

[00:44:37]>> Uh the uh the E ticket gets you on the Matterhorn.

[00:44:42]>> Oh, it should be the other way around.

[00:44:43]>> Pirates of the Caribbean.

[00:44:44]>> Wouldn't a be at the top?

[00:44:46]>> That's what I would have thought. That's intuitively I think why I said it the way I said.

[00:44:51]>> I went to the Met.

[00:44:52]>> A dozen people a dozen people correct me. E were the best and A's were the worst.

[00:44:58]>> Okay, there you go. and you would get 12 A tickets and two E tickets in your in your book. That's why my relatives were able to collect the books that the the tourists would throw away cuz they would use all the good tickets and there'd be eight or nine.

[00:45:11]>> So, you had to buy your ticket before you walk in the door.

[00:45:15]>> Well, when you pay your entry fee, you bought your book of tickets or books of tickets.

[00:45:19]>> I'd want to walk around and have a look at the people when they get off the ride. If they were going, "Oh, >> then I say, well, I don't want to get on that." M >> see I I if they're coming off going, "Wow, that was fun. I'll go well I'll go for a ride on that. Where do I pay?"

[00:45:34]>> I suppose you could have done it that way, but you'd have to go back to the entrance.

[00:45:38]>> Walt Disney didn't bother asking, >> unfortunately, >> or dig through the garbage cans and get the leftover books with the leftover tickets. You could do it that way.

[00:45:47]>> Ah, uh rumaging through the garbage can.

[00:45:50]So listen, beloved viewers, if you have to leave the house to go to 7-Eleven or Starbucks or Amazon to get a cup of coffee, you have no right to criticize me for not driving a vehicle and for uh not using my phone, for being a ly. All right? I don't do that, but I know how to make coffee. And I make coffee in my my kitchen and I drink it in my living room. I don't have to go out of the house to get something as simple as a cup of coffee.

[00:46:26]>> What are they accusing you of?

[00:46:28]>> Being a ly.

[00:46:30]>> Well, okay.

[00:46:31]>> Mostly, you know who it is? Mostly it's my friends. When I say something like I can't get I can see Facebook on my phone. I cannot see it on my laptop.

[00:46:42]I've been kicked out on my laptop. On my phone, I can still see.

[00:46:46]>> No, no, no, no. Facebook. I don't criticize you. I just bring to your attention the options that might be available. You came and sat at my desk and tried to get Facebook on my laptop and you were unsuccessful.

[00:47:01]Yeah. It's not me though. My karma with machines is really, really crappy. So, I don't drive vehicles and I don't use my phone.

[00:47:09]>> You do drive a vehicle?

[00:47:10]>> Well, yeah. My little electric free, my rascal.

[00:47:14]>> Yeah. That that that I can handle. I >> Does it have a name?

[00:47:19]>> No, >> you haven't given it a name.

[00:47:20]>> No, it's I probably just call it Bob.

[00:47:22]>> You call it Rusty?

[00:47:24]>> Yeah, Rusty. Oh, it is now. It is. Paid 30,000 B for this thing and it's a rolling pile of rust at the moment.

[00:47:31]>> 30,000 B.

[00:47:32]>> So, at any rate, >> it's given you 2 years of good travel.

[00:47:35]>> If I had spent 30,000 B on a good used motorcycle, it would have lasted me 20 years.

[00:47:40]>> Well, yeah, but you don't like motorbikes anymore. No, I don't. I No, I'm dangerous. I'm dangerous to myself and every other form of life on the road behind the wheel of any vehicle. I don't see well. I don't think well. And I'm not just about everywhere except the road in front of you.

[00:47:59]>> Yeah. I don't pay attention to the road.

[00:48:00]I look at every little shophouse I drive by and think, what lives are going on in that house? What's going on behind those windows? What are those people thinking and doing right now? And then then I hit the bridge abutment and we all die.

[00:48:15]>> Yeah. So I don't drive vehicles. Um Oh, there was a I do crossword puzzles. I love cross the New York Times Sunday crossword exclusively.

[00:48:25]And I've got these big thick books of crossword puzzles and I'll tear out 10 pages, put them on a clipboard and take it with me and when I'm waiting for my dinner I'll I'll do a cross word puzzle and they come from the puzzles come from the 80s9s 2000s 20110s and it's interesting they're not dated but you can tell when they come from when they mention like the president's dog and the answer is Millie. Okay, that's the Clintons, right? And so you can tell what era. But there was a clue this week.

[00:48:57]>> Blank calls. Threeletter word. Calls.

[00:49:01]>> Blank calls. Question mark.

[00:49:05]>> C A L S.

[00:49:06]>> Yes. C A L S.

[00:49:08]>> Phone calls.

[00:49:09]>> Question mark. Threeletter word.

[00:49:10]>> A threeletter word.

[00:49:12]>> Um.

[00:49:13]>> Question mark.

[00:49:15]>> Threeletter word. Any calls.

[00:49:18]>> Any calls.

[00:49:19]>> Yeah. Yeah, because when while you didn't work in an office like I did, used to be when the boss came back to the office, he'd ask the receptionist any calls.

[00:49:28]>> Now, no, since the invention of the head, no, that that phrase has fallen out of use to the point that people don't recognize it anymore. But when that puzzle was current was before uh uh phones, any calls, you'll never hear that again except on this show. That is the added value we bring to you.

[00:49:51]One reason to subscribe to the channel, the hierarchy.

[00:49:55]>> Oh, here we go.

[00:49:57]>> Listen, Tim.

[00:49:58]>> Yeah.

[00:50:00]>> There's one face on every postage stamp, every bill, every coin hung on the wall of every shop. That one face is the pinnacle of a pyramid. And every single person in this country can tell you where they are on that pyramid.

[00:50:20]Everybody, including us, we're down near the bottom, fits into that pyramid. This country is a hierarchy and has been for thousands of years. I didn't invent it.

[00:50:31]The hierarchy determines whether you k or ka somebody, whether you use gum pronouns with somebody or you call them kun or tan. It governs your interactions. It governs every phrase you speak because you add or ca at the end of every phrase. The hierarchy is here. Everybody lives within it.

[00:50:53]Everybody follows its rules. I didn't invent it. Who you why and when you why is according to where you are in that pyramid, where you are in that hierarchy. I didn't invent that. Don't get angry at me. Don't call me an elitist. Don't call me all kinds of crap because I didn't invent it. I'm just telling you you you can't why absolutely everybody you encounter. You have to judge just like you judge whether to say crap or ka whether you judge whether to say gum pronouns. You fit them into the hierarchy. That's why they ask you would you pay for your car? Would you pay for your watch? They're trying to fit you.

[00:51:34]How old are you? They're fitting you into that pyramid so they know how to talk to you.

[00:51:38]>> You You are speaking a bit like >> a Thai.

[00:51:43]>> Oh, really? Thank you.

[00:51:45]>> Whereas I would have thought that foreigners don't need to be quite so obsessed, >> okay, >> with with this because ties will give us a a wide margin of error. Yes. as foreigners and uh we can do the wrong why or why the wrong person and they'll sort of think to themselves, well that's a bit odd, but they're a foreigner. They don't really know.

[00:52:09]>> And so um you you really obsess about this?

[00:52:14]>> Yes. Have for 35 years.

[00:52:16]>> But um I'm thinking that you might be wasting a little bit too much energy on this >> because I I don't waste any energy at all. I know where I fit. But I know who to why and who not to why. Who I say crap to.

[00:52:30]>> And you say foreigners are at the bottom. I think foreigners are sort of put somewhere in the middle automatically before they prove if they're a >> jump out of the back of a tuk tuk, >> a dipstick or or other. But I think foreigners generally are given a sort of a a place in the middle and they'll judge you by your uh your efforts afterwards.

[00:52:51]>> We are warrant officers. We are officers but we can't give orders.

[00:52:54]>> Yeah. And if you get a Y wrong as a foreigner, I don't think they're not going to send you out of the country, they'll go, "Okay, he doesn't quite know." As I mentioned yesterday, somebody said, "Oh, cuz Tim doesn't why he that says a lot about him." Um because to a degree I'm not 100% sure when I should watch. The intricacies of Thai society are not immediately obvious to me. And so I'll take the uh the the sort of the the method of least resistance where I'll acknowledge the why uh politely and I'll be differential to people perhaps older than me. Not that there's many of them, uh, or somebody who may be wearing a uniform, but I I rarely put my hands together because I think, well, I'm going to get it wrong probably, and so I might just, uh, be the the foreigner who's being polite but doesn't really know the intricacies. The other thing I think somebody mentioned the connection between the why and Buddhism and you again were very very uh concerned that people thought that the why had something to do with Buddhism.

[00:54:09]>> Yeah. No, it predates Buddhism. We why everybody above us in this society. That includes the Buddha and monks. So you see the why in in iconography and in in art and in the temples. You'll see people whying the Buddha. You you won't ever see the Buddha why anybody. Of course, he's the top of the pyramid. Uh and you see people why monks at festivals and all kinds of things because they are above us. But we also why our teachers, our boss, our parents, uh the policemen. We why anybody who's above us on the pyramid and that includes the Buddha and the monks. But that's it. The why didn't originate with Buddhism. It doesn't come out of the temples. it is brought into the temples because it's part of Southeast Asian culture.

[00:54:54]>> And you were linking, you saying, well, Christians put their hands together when they pray.

[00:54:58]>> Uh, which is sort of a why.

[00:55:00]>> Uh, yeah. I I think it's probably all intertwined and exactly >> when the first people started putting their hands together or I mean, Buddhism is very very old and >> 500 years >> and uh >> 2568 2568 years.

[00:55:18]>> There you go.

[00:55:18]>> Yeah. because it is the year 2568 of the Buddhist era.

[00:55:24]It did Buddha actually Oh god, I'll be getting myself in trouble. Did he actually live or is he a >> Well, I don't know. I was not around uh to verify that. I think >> we weren't around to verify when the Y started, too. So I'm thinking there's just a whole lot of intricacies about the whole idea of why people put their hands together.

[00:55:49]>> Well, you know, Sidarta, if I'm remembering by Herman Hessa, the book, the novel Sidarta, because there's this dichotomy in uh Buddhism that says everything we do affects our karma.

[00:56:03]Every action is either good or bad and then that's going to affect your karma count. But at the same time the material world is an illusion and nothing really matters. So when you try to study Buddhism you try to put this you try there's a cognitive dissonance created by that. So in Sidharta Herman Hessa says well there were two historic Buddhas two teachers and one was called Galama and the other one was called Anand and and they taught these two similar but conflicting uh schools of thought which were eventually over 2,500 years melded into what we think of as modern Buddhism. I think probably there was a teacher just I think the same way about Confucious or or uh Jesus or Muhammad. There was a profound teacher who affected a lot of students. But then you layer on thousands of years of myth and legend and translations and mistransations and you get you get this whole big mythos. Uh so I think probably there was a Gautama Sarta who uh who was a good teacher and affected a lot of people >> and he was born in >> uh uh Lumpini Lumpini. No Nepal.

[00:57:18]>> Yes.

[00:57:19]>> Yeah. Not India.

[00:57:21]>> Not but it's not Lumpini. That's where he gave his first uh >> I think he was born in Lumpini.

[00:57:26]>> Really? Yeah. Okay. All right.

[00:57:28]>> I've been there.

[00:57:29]>> Oh, okay. So there you go.

[00:57:31]>> I have no idea who those people.

[00:57:32]>> No idea. Uh, but there's more golfers.

[00:57:35]You know, the grass the grass gets green and there's more golfers. Are there people in the dining room?

[00:57:40]>> No, we're not bothering anybody yet.

[00:57:43]>> They're all outside.

[00:57:44]>> You're just bothering me.

[00:57:45]>> Yeah. It's what I'm here for.

[00:57:47]>> Uh, okay. So, uh, let's move on to the next one. We've covered religion, uh, UFOs, >> hierarchy. We've done everything. Oh, just I have nothing to say about it, but our hottest topic according to our comment section last week was cash versus e-commerce.

[00:58:04]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:58:05]>> Boy, people have very strong feelings about their money.

[00:58:08]>> As you would expect, >> soon as you mentioned digital currency, people go boom.

[00:58:12]>> Yeah. Boy, that got a lot of chatter.

[00:58:15]>> Uh, >> how's your Bitcoin doing by the way?

[00:58:18]>> I haven't got one.

[00:58:19]>> Oh, there you go.

[00:58:21]uh could not think of a single Oh. Oh, so I am I am experiencing a certain kind of cognitive decline. I find it very difficult to recall names.

[00:58:35]And last week you asked me out of the blue, what's your favorite piece of classical music? And I've gone to the symphony. My mother was an officer in the board of the Los Cusa Symphony. I watched my daughter dance in the Nutcracker many, many years. I've done operas as a propmaster and had to sit backstage through endless hours of aras.

[00:58:55]And in that moment, I could not recall a single piece of classical music or even a single classical composer.

[00:59:02]And you guys did not take me to task for that. You guys did not chew me out in the comment section. Neither did you.

[00:59:10]And I'm very grateful to the the patience you showed an old man who's experiencing cognitive decline. just be five minutes before you were going through all the names and the history of Buddhism. I mean, >> yeah, in some areas >> sometimes I can I can sing some sections of your brain that are still quite >> intense. I can sing you every word of the theme songs to Gilgans Island, the Beverly Hillbillies, but I cannot remember my mother's phone number. She's had the same phone number since 1996, I think. I >> I can remember my first phone number.

[00:59:41]>> Okay. See 7523. I you know thanks White Labs.

[00:59:49]Uh could not think of that ties. Oh, one of the the most striking things in the comment section this week was from Eileen Morris Duke who said her her uncle I think describes Tai driving as ties drive like water.

[01:00:06]And I think if you've ever stood on an overpass in Bangkok or somewhere with bigger streets than we have here and watch the way it all flows and and nobody's really paying attention much to lights and but you know from two directions they'll cross and they'll weave through each other and and nobody dies and nobody gets >> more Vietnamese than Thai. The the Vietnamese do that cross thing very very very very well. Uh, I've always said that if you are driving in Thailand, drive like you're in a school of fish.

[01:00:40]Same thing. If the tires are going this way, go that way. If the tires are driving fast, drive fast. If they're driving slow, drive slow. Just go with a school of fish and you'll be fine.

[01:00:50]>> And if they'll park in the shade under the overpass to wait for the light to turn green, you park in the shade, too.

[01:00:56]Don't be stupid and sit out there in the sun.

[01:00:59]>> Uh, so with that, that's it. Boy, we've covered some deep.

[01:01:04]Yes. And no doubt it will provoke another page of Steve Got it wrong in Norel's notebook brought to you by White Labs. How do you find White Labs? You just Google them, do you?

[01:01:15]>> I find them quite satisfactory.

[01:01:18]>> I would guess. Well, I would guess they've got I mean, they they found me obviously. Uh, I would guess that a Google search would take they must have a Facebook page and probably a dedicated website, maybe Instagram and and who knows what. Tik Tok. I I don't know.

[01:01:36]But, uh, I've never I've never had to look for white labs. They just magically comes to you.

[01:01:42]>> Yeah, it does. Yeah, Steve.

[01:01:45]>> It is magic. It is magic. Yeah.

[01:01:47]>> Um, sometimes.

[01:01:51]>> So, thanks for joining us. Don't forget you can find links to Steve's books. Uh he's still dining out on those old stories.

[01:01:59]>> Yeah.

[01:01:59]>> And >> sell about a book a day.

[01:02:01]>> There you go.

[01:02:02]>> Yeah. Probably just on the basis I don't do any marketing other than this show.

[01:02:06]So that link. Do you have any way to tell how many people go click through?

[01:02:11]How many people click through?

[01:02:12]>> No.

[01:02:13]>> Well, when you click through to the video, you've already it's you just have to scroll down, but most people don't.

[01:02:19]>> Um there you go. So, thank you for watching. Hopefully you have a fantastic week. Until we see you again, don't forget we do our live live uh TNT, nothing to do with Ted Turner, each morning at 800 a.m. I think I'll be doing it live this week. Wednesdays is a bit iffy because um they fire up the uh the tsunami tower at 8:00 a.m. which is usually four or 5 minutes past 8:00 a.m.

[01:02:49]I hope the the tsunami warning isn't going to be quite as late as the national anthem is. Uh >> we have nothing to worry about here. Why they put that tow, you know, they moved that tower from a beach on Phuket.

[01:03:02]>> Yes. which is very vulnerable to tsunamis to put it at Thai where we are not at all vulnerable to tsunamis.

[01:03:08]>> It depends where the tide is. It depends on the size of the wave. But uh the fact that there could be another tsunami targeting that Anderman shore. It indeed it's probably unlikely in our time, but it could happen in the next 5 minutes or it could happen in the next 5,000 years.

[01:03:28]We don't know. You don't know. It's not something that I worry about, but uh we do get to experience the tsunami warning every Wednesday morning at about 4 minutes past 8. Uh thank you for watching today. Uh we'll be with you again next week with another grumpy old man. I think we're up to about 120.

[01:03:48]>> Wait, I'll I'll count.

[01:03:51]I'll count.

[01:03:52]>> So, while Steve's counting, we'll come back next week and we'll tell you.

[01:03:55]Bye-bye. Bye.