Why We're Jealous of 9 to 5ers

Added: 2026-05-22

[00:00:00]Best case scenario, there's a lot of artists out there that have just such poor body control, movement awareness, and awkwardness that even just not just don't do that. Just just walk is going to save their show.

[00:00:11]>> Oh, that's a moment. But it's going to save their whole show >> the audience like this.

[00:00:18]>> Give that guy 10k.

[00:00:19]>> If I was a musician, if I was a musician, I would need like 70 of those guys.

[00:00:28]Welcome back to another episode of the Careful Boys. And yo, you know, especially as a such a successful entrepreneurial people, people that built it from the ground up, hustled, started our own.

[00:00:39]>> Don't do it. Get a job.

[00:00:41]>> Unconventional paths. Why would we ever be jealous?

[00:00:44]>> Dreams.

[00:00:45]>> You, you watching this. Yeah. You with your regular job. We're all jealous of you.

[00:00:50]>> We're super jealous.

[00:00:50]>> Yeah. Why would you be Why would you be jealous of somebody who has quote unquote the >> dude 6% match when companies 6% match 401k?

[00:00:59]>> I know. But if you can get 6%, dude, that's [ __ ] what? That's That's a jackpot.

[00:01:03]>> 6% match. You're doing it.

[00:01:05]>> Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Some people have 6%.

[00:01:08]>> What are you saying?

[00:01:09]>> 401k matches.

[00:01:10]>> Oh my god.

[00:01:11]>> I want to I want to email every day.

[00:01:13]>> Your dick hard. Look, your piece.

[00:01:14]>> I don't even know what that means.

[00:01:16]>> You're excited, right? So basically a lot of corporate companies when they elect to offer you as an employee benefit a retirement plan, they put into some sort of like 401k structure that their company offers by some third party like retirement fund or whatever, right?

[00:01:30]But then what they do as an employee incentive is that they match your contributions to a certain percent level. So it is by and far the corporate rule if if you plan on staying somewhere for a long time, don't fall asleep on me.

[00:01:43]if you plan on staying somewhere for a long time that you know like over time the fact that the company is matching your contributions to your retirement fund it's it's a no-brainer you have to do that. So before you get your paycheck you elect to get a portion of that that's already paying FICA taxes everything to go to your retirement and then it'll get matched by your company which is an incentive for them one to offer employee benefits and two to defer taxes off of income by way of >> retirement together. Isn't that cool?

[00:02:11]>> Mhm. It's like this >> over time though. It's like >> bro, it stacks.

[00:02:16]>> That's something I'll never have and that's why I'm not interested. He's blocking out his for for context. Here's here's the here's the uh the context is probably missing for some of you guys.

[00:02:25]Entrepreneur runs his own uh fitness empire. This guy does online coaching uh jiu-jitsu uh lessons and that's why he doesn't have a regular job. This guy monetizes his dancing for uh everything from workshops to performance to choreography to classes. This guy owns a tea shop >> and uh also this channel you're watching right now.

[00:02:50]>> I do contracted music work and that's why we'll never have 401ks.

[00:02:54]>> Freelancer freelance/ business owner.

[00:02:59]Uh you but Oh, you don't have a business? I do. Yeah. No, I do.

[00:03:08]>> That sounds a little funny.

[00:03:10]>> That was like kind of [ __ ] dude.

[00:03:11]>> That's true. But you don't have anything.

[00:03:13]>> I thought you had a business.

[00:03:14]>> You're like not like a real prer.

[00:03:16]>> So just struggling >> entrepreneur.

[00:03:20]>> Difference between freelance and entrepreneur >> is risking capital to build your business. You don't have risk, right?

[00:03:27]>> I I got rent. I pay rent. Oh, so you are so you have but yeah >> I put up capital to ram my business.

[00:03:33]>> So we're all paying LLC.

[00:03:35]>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm getting rammed by taxes, dude. Just ram.

[00:03:39]>> And we all have an envy against people that have normal day-to-day jobs where they have a salary that's set, a raise that's guaranteed, um, and, uh, some form of stability. I feel like in our 20s, everyone probably envied us. And then um in our 40s now we're envying the people that envied us.

[00:04:02]>> I think it's it's because they're like millionaires and they have like giant homes and they're doing all these amazing things. Or or is it because at some point once you've like exhausted the chase everything that you could ever want at free will you actually really just want a simple stable consistent thing that you could look forward to?

[00:04:20]that I think it's the fact that people could clock out at five and I know some high performers and like >> you know professionals they don't clock out ever like if you work at a law firm or whatever. I get it. But I'm talking about the mass majority of people where they could write an email at 400 p.m.

[00:04:38]and say, "I hope this email finds you well." Whatever. And then at 5, dunzo, they go home. They could do Netflix, hang [ __ ] karate, whatever they want on the weekends. They don't work.

[00:04:51]>> Yeah, that's sick.

[00:04:52]>> They don't work. I was like, I don't know what that even feels like. In the last 19 [ __ ] years, I don't even know what that's like because you just work whenever you have to. It's [ __ ] 3:00 a.m.

[00:05:07]>> The pipe bursted. The plumber's not there. You work. You go [ __ ] fix it.

[00:05:12]>> Yeah, dude. Like the biggest [ __ ] scam out there is C they think CEO is a dictator or like the boss is like you're the one that's do that do that. No, you're the janitor. Everyone's bugging you. Only for a struggling company.

[00:05:26]That's all we know.

[00:05:27]>> That's true. That's true.

[00:05:28]>> It's very rare that even the top dogs are I don't know. But even if you run like you're CEO of like Amazon or something, you still have to deal with certain situations where like you know [ __ ] Sandy from accounting is sleeping with you like you have to hear about this [ __ ] all the time. You're not unclogging toilets, that's for sure. But you got other problems. You're a cleanup crew.

[00:05:47]>> So when [ __ ] happens, it comes on your plate and you have to deal with it or people are hiding something and they have to like you have to find out about it later.

[00:05:53]>> You sign up for that's the trade-off, right? It's like you're willing to understand.

[00:05:56]>> But the point is I don't want to do it anymore, man.

[00:05:59]>> The selfish dream is that like we all wish we had a 9 toive stable job based on the skill set we currently have. And I think that's the thing that's funny about it. It's like we're no we're not trying to have just like a job doing something menial and manual.

[00:06:12]>> Can someone just har hire you as a karate man?

[00:06:15]>> Yeah. We're like I want to stay A KARATE MAN BUT LIKE >> AND we're dreaming of these madeup positions.

[00:06:22]>> That's >> I want to be a karate I want to be a professional karate >> like a funny man but like you pay me 9 to5 >> yeah but I don't know what that job is.

[00:06:32]>> I'll sell your [ __ ] zins dude. I'll sell I'll sell anything.

[00:06:35]>> It's just 9 to5 to the thing you do now.

[00:06:37]Like what do you think is the closest thing?

[00:06:40]>> The I don't see that's the problem. You know what the problem is with that prompt that question is? I don't even know what 9 toive jobs are really anymore.

[00:06:48]>> Mine to be like if I worked at a [ __ ] uh sound stage or like a studio and I just like recorded ADR of people. You know what I mean? Like >> you you're my dad >> and I'm just the guy going, "All right, got it. Got it. Good. Got it." I would love to do that.

[00:07:04]>> Really?

[00:07:04]>> Yeah. I think you I think you kill at it.

[00:07:07]>> So, I got I recent I recently got into the like the world of like consulting and how people offer services like to companies, right?

[00:07:16]>> And like marketing, digital, social media, all that stuff. You know what blew my mind?

[00:07:22]>> It's mostly people that don't [ __ ] know [ __ ] but they they sell a really good game. So, um, they like, let's say they know the buzzwords of our culture, like they know like social media strategy and like how Instagram works.

[00:07:37]They know like a small fraction of it and they know how to like copy some of the stuff and the principles of like making videos or whatever, but they know how to like basically dress everything up to look like an official agency for whatever this consulting thing is. and they'll pitch to these companies because these companies like whether it be nonprofit or like private sector they get hell of money but they don't know how to like evolve to like digital. So that space right now, that space is there's [ __ ] cuz they're like throwing money at average like ad money trying to like catch up. And if Yeah. If a [ __ ] kid knows how to run an Instagram page, they'll get paid like 10, 20, 30k a month just to run some [ __ ] And I'm like, >> what the [ __ ] >> Yeah. Those are the guys making all the money cuz they could actually convert like their content.

[00:08:29]>> Yeah. And then you have these poor ass like like influencers who are getting millions of views. They have the actual skills, but they don't know how to pitch anything to >> they don't know how to copyright.

[00:08:39]>> No, because >> they don't know Canva.

[00:08:41]>> They don't know how to talk in a meet.

[00:08:43]They get intimidated to talk to corporate people in a meeting room and all that stuff. And I was like, but like in all of our jobs, right?

[00:08:49]>> To like organize your body of work into pretty much like a pitch deck like, hey, this is what >> bingo. Yeah.

[00:08:55]>> Pitch deck is a big thing. Yeah.

[00:08:56]>> Yeah. So it's like the skills that we have we like it's way beyond what is being offered to the to to >> but we don't know their language and their culture and how to pitch to them.

[00:09:10]>> All comes back to content, dude.

[00:09:11]>> Yep.

[00:09:11]>> And I'm sick of it.

[00:09:13]>> Everything's content.

[00:09:16]>> But imagine if someone else was paying for the content and you didn't have to be in the content and you're just giving advice.

[00:09:22]>> Yeah. I'm I'm going have to hire an AI person to do it. Like you know those like fake AI people like hi I'm a AI >> fitness instructor.

[00:09:30]>> Yeah.

[00:09:30]>> The three things you need to eat to stay healthy. I'm not I'm not skins all smooth.

[00:09:36]>> Bunch of calendars misspelled in the background.

[00:09:39]>> Yeah.

[00:09:40]>> What do you think our corporate titles would be?

[00:09:43]>> Cuz you know how like they they come up with dude there's so many. There's like social media strategist, [ __ ] marketing specialist.

[00:09:51]>> Those are regular ass corporate titles.

[00:09:53]I mean like but like what would there's so many like for for what your what your karate master strategist >> [ __ ] boy >> [ __ ] boy >> that's like that's like uh some you know like uh some choreographers when they've transcended they become movement designers >> that's fancy strength conditioning coaches do that all the time movement specialists it's like hey shut up dude >> because sometimes you're like some of these uh some of these dancers they're not necessarily making a dance, but they're choreographing how a person in whether it's a movie role or something on stage, how they literally are moving.

[00:10:31]It's not necessarily dancing at all.

[00:10:32]>> Well, sometimes it's as basic as recognizing like, hey, uh, crowd in the back, a little bit more energy, but like not volume.

[00:10:40]>> $10,000, please.

[00:10:43]>> I just put it right here in my pocket.

[00:10:45]But sometimes there's easy days at work and then sometimes the crowd is doesn't know how to get moving and you have to go in there and physically show them how to do it. funny. It really does. Like it's it's a high value thing cuz like there's a friend of mine became a movement designer and uh started working with DOAT and then like little things that she told her to do with her mic like went viral like small little things.

[00:11:08]>> Really?

[00:11:09]>> Yeah. And viral for that like >> put the put the mic in your mouth.

[00:11:12]>> And I'm talking about like Yeah. I'm talking about like a one microphone little movement got more viral than some people's entire [ __ ] Coachella.

[00:11:20]>> Wow.

[00:11:20]>> More than that. And just because like little like key things like that, that's why you're like, "Oh, that's why it's worth the money."

[00:11:25]>> Was it intentional? It was constructed.

[00:11:28]>> Absolutely.

[00:11:28]>> Well, that's cuz they got someone who was hella good.

[00:11:30]>> Best case scenario, there's a lot of artists out there that have just such poor body control, movement, awareness, and awkwardness that even just not just don't do that. Just just walk is going to save their show. And that's D. Yeah.

[00:11:44]But it's going to save their whole [ __ ] show.

[00:11:46]>> It's like this.

[00:11:49]>> Give that guy 10K. He saved us.

[00:11:51]>> If I was a musician, I would need like 70 of those guys.

[00:11:55]>> Would you be like, "Hey, does that look funny?"

[00:11:57]>> 70 of those guys.

[00:11:59]>> Anytime I take a step, I need someone watching it.

[00:12:01]>> Dude, do you know the Do you know that?

[00:12:02]Have you heard of the thing of Clippers?

[00:12:04]>> Yes.

[00:12:05]>> [ __ ] dude. So, streamers, they spend like I don't know if it's true. I watched a thing saying that uh like some streamers like Neon or people who are like really making a lot of money have like a gigantic budget of just paying clippers and they'll pay they'll have like 300 clippers per month and these are these people like overseas that all they do is watch their stream and they make clips and they make uh fan accounts and if they hit a mill views on any of these clips they get bonuses.

[00:12:34]>> So like imagine that you you have 300 people doing that. That's pretty cool.

[00:12:39]>> That's the real game.

[00:12:41]>> Yeah.

[00:12:41]>> And here we got [ __ ] me making clips.

[00:12:43]One guy got some Filipino guys making >> Yeah, >> we only got one Filipino guy. We need But that's [ __ ] crazy.

[00:12:51]>> We're going to bring JK back.

[00:12:52]>> They're spending like >> Yeah, >> they're spending like 100k to a mill per month >> on flooding the internet with their real estate, dude.

[00:13:01]>> Yeah, >> that's crazy real estate. We got to wait, what was it the wording again? We got to flood our clips to YouTube, brother. That's what we got to do.

[00:13:09]>> But that economy, I had no idea that it was that thick. I was like, "Oh, maybe they have like five guys, 300 minimum guys."

[00:13:17]>> It's a different era where like they're way more strategic about everything from our generation of when we started creating.

[00:13:25]>> Yeah. It wasn't so uh ours was our era was so organic.

[00:13:29]>> Yeah. So intentional.

[00:13:31]>> Yeah. It makes sense though because every time I I don't want to hear about these streamer kids, but they're getting shoved down my throat every time I open up my app.

[00:13:39]>> It's always against your will.

[00:13:40]>> And it's like and it's because it's these fan accounts, you know what I mean? That's it makes all the sense in the world to try to hit these mill marks cuz that's how they get real money. Like you can make a some kid in the [ __ ] random ass country really rich off that.

[00:13:55]And I think for us too, not a lot of people game the algorithm because the algorithm was always changing like way more than now. Yeah.

[00:14:03]>> But then it was more like people just creating and then hoping that it would organically stick.

[00:14:10]>> Well, the fact that you were making stuff with Bart before there were even ad money involved.

[00:14:15]>> Like you were doing it just to laugh.

[00:14:17]>> Yeah. Just to laugh. And then going viral back then was like a hundred thousand views >> cuz the user base on YouTube was only like a couple million.

[00:14:25]>> That's crazy.

[00:14:26]>> Yeah.

[00:14:26]>> And it was very inter community. Like if you got those 100,000 views, guaranteed you go out and someone's like, "Hey, you that guy that did the thing."

[00:14:34]>> You know what I mean? Now you could get like 3 mil and no one knows you.

[00:14:37]>> No one knows who you are. Yeah.

[00:14:38]>> Cuz it's spread out so [ __ ] far.

[00:14:40]>> India knows you though for sure. India knows your name. What's crazy though is that like our 3 minute 6 minute YouTube videos was considered short form content.

[00:14:50]>> Oh yeah, >> that was short form dude. Like >> but dude, but then when Vine came out >> that's bringing the sketches back, dude. That's what I think.

[00:14:59]>> Everyone's doing sketches now, but like on Instagram.

[00:15:02]>> I think you guys could do it.

[00:15:04]>> Sketches are >> I see people steal your bits all the time, actually.

[00:15:07]>> They they just recip our [ __ ] too. All the time.

[00:15:10]>> Yeah, >> they're stealing your premises, dude.

[00:15:12]We're not down to say the N word like you guys.

[00:15:14]>> I know, right?

[00:15:15]>> Bring it back. Bring it word >> or the J word.

[00:15:20]>> You can say the R word. It's fine, dude.

[00:15:22]>> But you know what, though? If you if you guys actually been around like the 9 to5 world, I feel like the culture is so different that I can't relax. I can't relax because everyone's developed like a corporate face.

[00:15:35]>> I think I would kill the HR lady.

[00:15:36]>> You have to develop a corporate personality.

[00:15:39]>> We get in trouble a lot.

[00:15:41]>> Yeah. Yeah, cuz we can actually relax.

[00:15:45]>> Yeah, shut the [ __ ] up to Yeah, for sure.

[00:15:49]>> No, it's not >> 1,000%.

[00:15:51]>> I'm not saying >> you being good.

[00:15:54]>> That's my cousin.

[00:15:56]>> Anthony of you working there doesn't count. I'm talking about the months, the years afterwards where you learn >> first impressions are everything because then when you build rapport, then you start >> No, that's what I'm saying. Cuz after month one, Anthony Lee is going to find the little game where he could he could be he could be a bad guy.

[00:16:13]>> Yeah.

[00:16:13]>> Not in America.

[00:16:14]>> Not in America. [ __ ] no.

[00:16:16]>> Are you going to be able think I can handle 9 to5 in America? I was doing 9 to five in America before I was doing dance.

[00:16:21]>> You want to kill yourself politics and the pettiness and >> you want to bow down some white dude workers? Dude, >> you wouldn't. You couldn't.

[00:16:28]>> And in the fight of passive aggressive games and all.

[00:16:31]>> I think I'm more corporate than all you.

[00:16:33]>> Nah, dude. I think in not trying you would be the king. A train.

[00:16:37]>> I think there you'd be the [ __ ] man.

[00:16:39]Here you you you'd eventually be like, I can't do this no more.

[00:16:42]>> Yeah. To me, it's the it's the culture.

[00:16:43]I wouldn't survive the culture >> because back then you weren't as cool as you are now.

[00:16:47]>> Yeah.

[00:16:47]>> If you tried to go back, there's no way.

[00:16:49]>> You can't dress like this either in a video.

[00:16:51]>> You can't go to work with >> pajama pants.

[00:16:54]>> You would die in a corporate setting, dude.

[00:16:56]>> I would be like, if you're going to come to work wearing kith, everyone has to wear kith.

[00:17:00]I like this.