SHOCKING: Key Evidence in Kirk Case May Be FAKE?!

[00:00:00]Hey, Willa, wake up. We got new developments  in the Charlie Kirk, Tyler Robinson case. We have new details. The evidence that they have,  it's not adding up. The lid is going to blow right open on this because the evidence just  got so complicated. Attorneys are saying that key evidence in the Kirk case might have some  funny business going on. And it just changed everything and it has to do with something they  may have missed. So, why are prosecutors hiding one particular witness? Tyler Robinson's case  in this detail breaks the whole story wide open because everyone thinks they know what happened in  Charlie Kirk's murder case and almost everyone is missing the important detail that was definitely  buried in this week's court filing. So, I spoke with an attorney because I am not one. And what  they told me about this so-called immunity deal, it doesn't just complicate the case against Tyler  Robinson. It raises a serious question that nobody really seems to be asking. So, what if the most  damning piece of evidence in this case isn't what it appears to be? I'm going to show you and soon  you're going to see and understand why the defense is fighting so hard over something prosecutors are  calling routine. And once you see it, this whole story looks so much different. So, real quick, I'm  Lauren Peritra. Will Patra and I run this entire operation network free and independent every  single day out of pure principle and an absolute refusal to ever let Katie Miller catch up. So  consider every sub, every follow, every hype, every comment, six words or more. Wherever  you get your podcast, Spotify, Apple, iHeart, etc., we see it all. And we've been told it  creates a very strong protective barrier between you and Steven Miller. He's like a pest. He could  be emerging from any dark, damp space at any time.

[00:01:38]Blinking is a little BDI. So stay safe. Subscribe.  It's the only way to stay safe. Let's work towards a timeline where that man is in a windowless cage.  So a new court filing dropped this week. And on the surface, it might read like good news for the  prosecutors. Tyler Robinson's romantic partner has agreed to testify. There's an immunity deal in  hand and recordings ready to play at the July pre-trial hearing. We all know September 10th,  2025, Charlie Kirk was at a Utah Valley University campus while he was giving a speech. He was the  founder of Turning Point USA. And he had a lot of enemies. But this suspected shooter turned himself  in the very next day. His name was Tyler Robinson.

[00:02:18]a family friend had reported him or his dad had  called him in and said that Robinson had been getting more political lately. He said he didn't  like Charlie Kirk. Robinson surrendered at the urging of his own family. His dad, I believe,  walked him to the police station, which let's just pause on that for a second because this is going  to matter. This is not how most calculated behave and we have to mute our words because we post this  video across many platforms where we are then uh rated explicit and it impacts our ability to reach  you. So prosecutors charged him with aggravated they announced that they'd seek the death penalty  and then almost immediately a new name entered the chat and most people glaze right over this.  It was Lance Twigs. So, this is the alleged boyfriend of Tyler Robinson, the trans roommate,  boyfriend, lover who we heard about and we heard about almost instantly. It's almost like they made  up this character. Remember remember when we were first getting details bit by bit on the Charlie  Kirk whole bit and we were learning that the poets were trans. There was this like crazy ideology  written on them. We don't really understand all that so far because a lot of it just doesn't  seem to add up. So, Lance Twigs, 22 years old, he was Robinson's roommate and romantic partner.  This was the person Robinson trusted most in the world, allegedly. And after Twigs, Mormon parents  kicked him out of their home, Robinson had taken him in. They built a life together at their home  in St. George, Utah, and Robinson called him Luna.

[00:03:48]And on the day Kirk was shot, Twigs vanished.  He didn't call police. He didn't come forward.

[00:03:54]He disappeared from their shared home entirely.  and he only resurfaced on September 11, the same day Robinson surrendered and spoke briefly with  investigators. Weird enough as it is, it would be weird for a bystander to do this. This is not  something that normally happens. But it gets even weirder because that September conversation  apparently wasn't enough because eight months later, eight months later, prosecutors had to  sit Twigs down again. And this time to get him to talk, they offered him a deal. And the deal  is the story everyone is getting wrong. So there is an immunity distinction that really changes  everything. When I first started this podcast, I remember sitting there thinking, "What if nobody  listens? Seriously, you put so much time and energy into building something and there's always  that little voice in your head wondering if it's ever going to work out. But taking that leap ended  up being one of the best decisions I've ever made.

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[00:06:04]That's the real deal. That's what people want.  It means that the government cannot prosecute for anything connected to what you're disclosing. You  can say whatever freely and you walk completely.

[00:06:16]But what Twigs received is something categorically  different. It's called use immunity. So focus on that. And it only covers one thing. the specific  statement he made in that one recorded interview on April 20th cannot be used against him in court.  That's the whole scope of the protection. So, one conversation and that's had on one date and  that's it. So, prosecutors can still investigate Twigs. They can still build a case against him  from any other source, other witnesses, phone records, physical evidence, anything that didn't  come directly out of his mouth that day. The immunity protects a statement. It does not protect  twigs the person. So, we asked an attorney why prosecutors would structure a deal that narrowly.  And the answer was blunt. You use immunity when you need somebody to talk, but you're not ready  to let them walk. So, normally this would be where the story ends. But instead, this is where  things really heat up. So, what Twig said and what prosecutors are sitting on. So, under oath  in an April recording, Twigs told prosecutors that Robinson admitted to Charlie Kirk, that he  hid the and that he disposed of his clothing, that he explicitly told Twigs not to speak to law  enforcement. Prosecutors also have screenshots.

[00:07:35]We have the images of the messages that were  allegedly sent from Robinson to Twigs around the time of the in a handwritten letter addressed  to Luna that reads like a confession in a goodbye.

[00:07:44]I had says stuff like I had the opportunity to  take Charlie Kirk out and I took it. And this is heavy stuff. So a man's own words describing a  he committed sense of the person he loved most in the world. And prosecutors are so confident in  this material that they are actively fighting the defense's request to have Twigs appear at the  July preliminary hearing in person. They say that they don't need him there. The recordings in the  screenshots, they speak for themselves. Remember, like when I first saw these text messages, and  we're we'll put them up on the screen. When we first saw these, these read to me like a chat GBT  script between two small town cops that were like, "Hey man, what should we say?" It look it did not  look like an authentic conversation. It did not.

[00:08:38]And some of you have even wrote in my comments,  this is an exercise I have to do to look at what that would be like if it was translated into  Israeli. And back to English, like could there be some strange translation things that we could  unearth? I don't know. I'm not an investigator, but if you're an investigator and you're listening  to this, might want to look into that. Something about those messages does not look right. We don't  have access to the original files. Nobody outside of that courtroom does. But what prosecutors have  presented publicly are screenshots. There are images of conversations allegedly sent by Robinson  to twigs and screenshots as any forensic expert will tell you. Those are among the easiest forms  of digital evidence to manipulate. You don't need to be super sophisticated to manipulate a text  message. Need a few minutes and a reason to do so. Now, think about the situation from the  defense's perspective. Their client's entire publicly disclosed case rests on digital messages  held exclusively on one person's phone. That person vanishes after the proof ruing. And that  person has to be offered legal protection before he'd cooperate. That person was explicitly told  by Robinson not to speak to the police. And that person notably did not receive full prosecutional  immunity, which means prosecutors themselves are not ready to close the books on what Twigs may or  may not have done or said or seen or any of it. So that would be concerning on its own, but then you  factor in what the defense is actually doing. They are fighting to get Twigs physically into the  courtroom at the preliminary trial. Not at the trial, at the preliminary hearing. a procedural  step where the bar is low and the witnesses rarely need to appear in person at all. You don't push  hard to have a witness on the stand at this stage unless you have something specific to confront  with them. So, you don't challenge somebody's memory through a recording. You do it face to  face. And the defense wants Twigs in that room because they want to ask him about those meetings  directly under oath with nowhere else to go. So, what all this means is that the public story is  one thing. The paper trail is something else.

[00:10:42]We know Robinson is accused of one of the most  high-profile killings in recent American history.

[00:10:50]And we know he surrendered voluntarily, which  is again not typical behavior for a calculated assassin. And we know that the evidentiary  case, as publicly disclosed, runs through a single witness who required a legally narrow  protection and carefully limited deal before he'd speak on the record. We're going to be  covering every single detail leading up to this.

[00:11:10]We've been covering it since it all went down  on September 10th. Don't know how we got here, but we're here and we're here for you and we're  going to keep covering this in great detail. I want to know what you think. If you're a legal  expert, if you've been following this case, too, what are your thoughts? I am dying to hear  what you have to say. Follow us across social.

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