Parker & Dean BRUTALLY Takedown MAGA Arguments In Real Time

Added: 2026-06-02

[00:00:00]How do you support Trump?

[00:00:02]>> Um, mostly his immigration policy, but yesterday I came up here. We were talking about the We were talking about like some I'm not going to like get into specifics cuz I don't want to get a flag, but I got kicked.

[00:00:14]>> Was it about the election?

[00:00:16]>> Yeah.

[00:00:16]>> Yeah. I remember you said, "Oh, I I don't want to get a flag, so I don't want to talk about this." And I was like, "I'll just say it." I was like, "I'll just do it." You got a flag. Okay, go ahead. You can continue.

[00:00:26]No, but I think that I think that I support him because mostly the his immigration policy and the fact that illegal immigration has gone down so much.

[00:00:40]>> Okay. Um, can you name one thing Trump's done to reduce undocumented immigration?

[00:00:47]Um, probably just increase the increase like ICE action, I guess.

[00:00:55]>> Okay. And ICE actions doing what?

[00:01:01]>> Uh, deporting illegals. What do you mean? What size doing?

[00:01:06]>> But what they've I would say that they're undermining due process rights.

[00:01:09]They're racially profiling people.

[00:01:11]They're sending people to El uh a concentration camp in El Salvador where they're being brutalized, tortured, and starved. Um we can give countless examples of how people are mistreated under the current system right now, which is leading less people to come to our country because they don't want to be mistreated and abused, but that doesn't mean that we've created a better system overall, right?

[00:01:36]I mean, sometimes the way that like he does it isn't great, but like still overall he's still getting the he's getting the job done. You know, Obama also had Obama also had a bunch of like bad things with his deportation stuff.

[00:01:52]>> Listen, man. Listen, I I think that I hear this argument a lot from Maka, and I'm not a fan of it at all. You say, "Well, I don't really care that Donald Trump is infringing on the Constitution, violating human, natural, and constitutional rights of undocumented immigrants. As long as it gets the job done, you will support it." That's what we call blind loyalty. Um that places Trump above all else, including common decency, common sense, the Constitution, and morality. It's the positioning of Trump as a um all knowing, all good dictator, where you're willing to when he does it.

[00:02:25]>> Well, you did. you did when you say, "Well, at least he's getting the job done, right?" You know, like, "Well, you don't care that he infringed on the 14th amendment of our constitution to take citizenship away from citizens to reclassify them as undocumented migrants to be deported, then tortured and seek because it's getting the job done, you will support it nonetheless." That's very immoral.

[00:02:49]>> Okay. But is illegal immigration not a problem that has to be addressed that isn't being addressed to the nearly to the same extent by the Democrats?

[00:03:00]>> I think it's being addressed better by the Dems. Um, and the reason why I say that is because the Democrats have at least tried to influence bipartisan legislation to reduce undocumented entry by expediting the legal means of entry.

[00:03:11]The Democrats tried to introduce some legislation surrounding the groundwork for mass amnesty. The Democrats tried to do these things. Okay. Right. Um, and I would say the reason why the Dems are doing better than Trump is because Trump hasn't even ever tried to implement good long-term proactive policy to reduce undocumented entry into this country.

[00:03:30]Not once has he stood in front of a mic and suggested that maybe we need to make legal entry easier. No, he's just been lashing out and using mass deportation as a weapon to get more support amongst prejudice white Americans by uh once again uh playing fascist and infringing on the human uh constitutional natural rights of the undocumented immigrants here.

[00:03:50]>> Why should we make immigration why should we try to increase the amount of immigration period though? Because they're taking American jobs.

[00:03:58]>> No, they create American jobs. Uh created a 14.3 trillion economic surplus over the last 30 years. They increase from the real median wages. They make more on average and they take less from the government on average. That creates American jobs by increasing productivity in the labor force. If it wasn't for immigrants, our GDP would be significantly smaller. Our companies would be less productive and there would be significantly less jobs. Not to mention, well, let's look at the jobs report. Since Trump has started his mass deportation in 2024 under Biden, do you know how many jobs we created?

[00:04:28]>> No, I don't.

[00:04:29]>> 2.2 million. Now, take a guess how many Trump created in 2025.

[00:04:36]I'm going to assume it's less >> 170,000.

[00:04:40]Okay, that's less than the rolling monthly average under Biden. So, if mass deportation was so good for the American prosperity of the economy and jobs, well, then why have we seen the worst jobs report since 03 ignoring recessions under Trump after he started his mass deportation?

[00:04:55]>> Well, you can't just say Biden had more job openings because that was during CO and a lot of people got laid off during CO. 2024 was during COVID. I think that you I think that you uh misspoke there because that's clearly false.

[00:05:08]>> You said during Biden's presidency or >> I said specifically in 2024.

[00:05:15]>> Okay. But still like that was like pretty soon like after co a lot of people had lost their jobs.

[00:05:21]>> So we got all of our bounceback jobs in 2021 to Q1 of 2022. Um all all the jobs had bounced back by then.

[00:05:32]uh 2024 was accelerated economic growth after we'd rebounded from the pandemic.

[00:05:37]And you can't just like arbitrarily draw this line and say that well 2024 was a bounce back from the pandemic than 2025 wasn't. Like that also doesn't really make any sense. You're just arbitrarily drawing a line to make an excuse for why the jobs reports have been worse under Trump. Uh that evidently isn't um based on real data, right? Because if you look at the real data, if you just go to uh the unemployment rate for instance on BLS's website, month by month or quarter by quarter, you'll see that we had a massive massive dip at the end of the Trump administration and beginning of the Biden Harris administration, but then we're bounced back by Q1 of 2022.

[00:06:09]This is also resembled within uh real GDP growth data.

[00:06:13]2024 was untouched by the pandemic.

[00:06:16]There was no bounce back for any macroeconomic indicator that took place in 2024.

[00:06:23]Okay, I'll concede that I think B I think I'll concede Biden was better for jobs, but I still think Trump is better president than Cuomo.

[00:06:32]>> Okay. Well, I mean, you just got done saying that, well, we need less immigration because they take their jobs, our jobs. Do you concede that, too?

[00:06:41]Because is it your whole thing Biden was terrible for immigrant for immigration?

[00:06:45]He let so many immigrants in, but now you're simultaneously saying that he's also better for jobs. So, more immigration equals more jobs.

[00:06:55]>> I I still think that Trump is better for immigration, though. I mean, better for like preventing immigration.

[00:07:02]>> Yeah. So, you're saying that uh Biden allows more immigration, but is also better for jobs, >> right?

[00:07:09]>> Why is there a correlation?

[00:07:11]>> Well, because less than five minutes ago, you told us that more immigration equals worse for jobs. But now if you're telling me that we could have more immigration and better jobs, like clearly that sentiment would be false.

[00:07:22]>> You just would expect under your hypothesis that if Biden allowed more immigration that he would have been therefore worse for jobs under your view, but no, that principles uh been rejected by yourself and I >> Well, I think part of your explanation also kind of makes me think that there isn't really a correlation between immigration and job like opportunities for Americans.

[00:07:45]>> Okay. Well, the KO Institute has demonstrated a study that would disagree. I've already given you data from that study such as the 14.3 trillion surplus generated by immigration and the economy over the last 30 years. You don't think that there's a correlation between immigration and jobs? Then you're just simply uninformed on American econom on American e economics.

[00:08:08]>> Okay. But Okay. So you want me to concede that >> immigration is beneficial to our economy, our society, our culture, etc. And you have no argument against it.

[00:08:19]Really, the process is about how do we facilitate immigration through the legal pathway rather than through being undocumented, right? The way to do that is by making the legal process go quicker and by providing a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants who haven't committed a violent or serious offense. Now, Democrats don't even specifically have that perspective yet. They just want to criminalize undocumented entry. They just want to make the legal process go quicker. uh and they want to prioritize going after those that have committed violent serious offenses. Um but I think that the process of mass amnesty would be a lot better at being able to address all of those conditions. But this is preferable than what Trump's advocating for where he they are prioritizing going after everyone regardless of whether or not they've committed a violent or serious offense. Which means if we're putting pri uh more of our time into those that aren't a threat to the safety and security of our population that I would say we're actively putting ourselves at a greater risk.

[00:09:04]So, you're saying that Biden was better for immigration? More immigration helps the economy and creates more jobs.

[00:09:12]>> And I would say that Biden or Trump actually exacerbated what he considers a border crisis because he undermined a bipartisan border bill when he said that the border crisis was was very bad in 2023. He was his entire campaign 2023, 2024 and everything. He was running on the border crisis being an issue. But during that time, it was the time where he literally under a after he undermined a bipartisan border bill that would have addressed those very conditions. So if we're talking about there being a crisis and you can get a bill done during the crisis to be able to address this, wouldn't you want to do that?

[00:09:47]If you care about it, if you care about addressing that crisis, >> okay, I'll concede on immigration, but I think also Trump is better for the war in Iran.

[00:09:59]>> Okay. How so? I would say that we're in an objectively worse position right now than we were a decade ago under the JCPOA. And right now still we'd be under that uh cap of enrichment of uranium right now for Iran at 3.67% until 2030 where we could renegotiate.

[00:10:14]>> There's no way you think Iran was genuinely going to listen to that agreement with Obama.

[00:10:18]>> Well, we had no reason to believe that they had violated it.

[00:10:22]>> I they fund terrorism. There's no way they're they're gonna be honest with an agreement with like a actual government.

[00:10:30]>> Okay. Then why does Trump think that they're going to be honest in this 15 point agreement in their negotiations right now? He says right now that he was about to do a huge attack, but he thinks that they're having good conversations >> and that it could possibly lead to a negotiation >> because they they're also facing like the threat of like war and we're beating them the war. So they have to listen to us because we're beating them.

[00:10:54]Okay. Well, you understand that's what it was under the JCPOA, like we put on economic sanctions and then removed them in order to be able to get this agreement.

[00:11:03]>> Listen, the reason why Iran funds terrorists is because they think that helps them. Wow, shocker. They're willing to do things that they think will help them. They also thought that economic relief would help them. In fact, they thought it would help them more than continuing to enrich uranium in an attempt to build nukes. So, they honored the JCPOA not because they're kind Samaritans who just wanted to listen to what Obama had to say, but rather because it directly benefited their material conditions by making their economy perform better. And we know that they honored the agreement not just because of this incentive structure, but also because the IAEA, an international nuclear walk dog watchdog ensured it. They had 247 access to s tamperproof surveillance cameras in all their enrichment sites. They had access to satellite data and imagery of the entirety of the country to track their enrichment sites as well as 300 inerson visits per year at each site. The JCP under the JCPOA, they did not violate the nuclear enrichment cap once.

[00:12:07]>> Does this get all be found in the JCPOA?

[00:12:10]This could all be found via the quarterly reports from the IAEA that were then formed by all parties in the JCPOA, including Trump before he pulled us out of in May of 2018.

[00:12:21]>> How come I've never heard about this then?

[00:12:24]>> Because you don't listen to um reliable sources on the internet that uh tell you what's true of the world around you and when it contradicts your uh political narrative about your support for Trump.

[00:12:38]Dude, they didn't they literally come into the like the Oval Office with like to have a meeting with Trump and say like, "Hey, we're building nukes." And they start like threatening us.

[00:12:48]>> No. Uh they have actually not ever recognized that they were building nuclear weapons publicly.

[00:12:54]>> Well, they were they said they were like we're riching in radians like this or whatever to sell close to nukes.

[00:13:00]>> I I don't know what meeting you're talking about. Would you like to give me a source on the meeting you're talking about?

[00:13:07]Yeah. Give me a second.

[00:13:09]>> Yeah. So, what was the source? What was the title?

[00:13:12]>> You have to be in the US to be able to hear.

[00:13:14]>> It was It was uh an article from CBS titled Trump's uh Trump envoy Steve Wickoff says that Iran has enough uh enriched uranium to make 11 nukes.

[00:13:29]>> Yeah, but like that not enriched.

[00:13:34]Wait, this is also from uh March of this year. So, >> it's from February.

[00:13:39]>> Uh the one from CVS is from March 3rd.

[00:13:42]So, I um I had I I I tried to give you the source for or the information about the JCPOA and then your response was to talk about this source. So, this is referencing their enriched uranium that they have after Donald Trump pulled us out of the JCPOA. So in other words, what you're telling us here is that apparently according to Steve Wickoff, because of Trump, Iran has enough uranium to uh make 11 nukes. But also keep in mind what Parker said there is correct. That's not enriched uranium. It just is uranium.

[00:14:13]>> Yeah. Like they have enough uranium to do this, not enrich that degree. Now their claim that they can enrich it to 90% within a week to 10 days is crazy by the way. That's like a nuts thing to say. Secondly, that would then just make an argument that Trump putting us in this position is even worse because he pulled us out of the JCPOA and got them closer to that because they're only at 60% enrichment right now because of the fact that Donald Trump pulled out of the JCPOA. They would be at 3.67% right now if Donald Trump never did that, bro. Okay, but like nobody's perfect, bro. He made a mistake. He's fixing now.

[00:14:53]>> No, that's not like Listen, that's not a mistake. That's one of the worst geopolitical blenders in modern global history.

[00:14:59]>> Nobody's perfect.

[00:15:02]Is that really the card you played?

[00:15:04]>> That's not nobody's perfect. That's this guy is an idiot. That shouldn't be anywhere near, right, a governmental position, right? Like that's not what we say for our leaders, men. Like, sure, leaders are capable of making mistakes, but um when they make a mistake big enough to onset a war, okay, they they probably shouldn't be in public office.

[00:15:26]>> Okay, I I got a question real quick. You guys keep saying that Trump ripped off the JCPOA.

[00:15:32]I can't imagine he actually like ripped up like physical documents. What do you mean by that? Like, did he like get a vote pass like an or something or what's what's the deal? No, he pulled the United States out of it because it had Obama's signature on it >> with like one.

[00:15:47]>> Yeah.

[00:15:54]Um I Okay. But I think I still think that we'd be be in a better situation than if we had Camala as Kamala as president.

[00:16:04]>> Why?

[00:16:05]>> Why? Yeah.

[00:16:07]because she's never had any experience as a president and she wouldn't know how to handle a situation like this.

[00:16:15]>> Wasn't that your argument for that?

[00:16:17]>> Isn't this your argument for why we should have voted for Trump in 2016? Um, wait, actually, check this out. Um, in 2016, would you have voted for Trump, the guy with zero experience in politics, or Hillary Clinton, the woman with like 30 years of experience in in politics?

[00:16:32]>> Man, I was I was in third grade in 2016.

[00:16:35]No, but but assuming that you were 18 in 2016, who' you have voted for, Trump or Clinton?

[00:16:42]>> Uh, >> I don't know enough about the 2016 election. I would >> Oh, come on. You're telling me you would change your vote.

[00:16:50]>> Okay. But following the logic of following the logic of they've never been neither of neither candidates had been president before, >> but Hillary Clinton had been worked had been working in politics for most of her life. She was the wife of a president.

[00:17:03]She was the secretary of state to another president. Clearly, she had significantly more experience than the billionaire without a day in public office.

[00:17:11]>> Yeah. Like what? That's not even a comparison.

[00:17:15]>> I mean, you're not considering that she's had a she's also had a huge career in politics. She was vice president, senator, district attorney, attorney general. She's a prosecutor.

[00:17:26]>> You I you saying that are you talking about Kla? Yeah.

[00:17:30]>> Clinton.

[00:17:32]You saying that Clinton has qualifications because she was the first lady? She was first lady to >> first lady and secretary of state.

[00:17:42]>> To who?

[00:17:43]>> Obama.

[00:17:43]>> Obama. Yeah. Do you not remember?

[00:17:46]>> I don't remember, bro. I was not involved in pol I haven't been involved in politics.

[00:17:50]>> Oh, sorry. Yo, I mean that makes sense.

[00:17:51]You you were young. I get it.

[00:17:55]>> H >> But do do you understand what I'm saying?

[00:17:59]>> I do understand, too. And she was a senator, right? We should also add that >> Hillary Clinton was a senator.

[00:18:06]>> Yeah.

[00:18:07]>> For what state?

[00:18:09]>> Um I thought was the same.

[00:18:24]>> It was Yeah. New York.

[00:18:26]>> Yeah.

[00:18:27]>> From 2001 to 2009. She was for eight years.

[00:18:30]Dude, honestly, like it's kind of sad how like her political career is like so often overlooked because of her husband.

[00:18:38]>> That's true.

[00:18:38]>> You know, >> like most people just know her as like the first wife of Bill, like not as a senator or secretary of state or any of those other things.

[00:18:49]I mean, there's like Okay, but okay, I'm like, I I said this yesterday, Parker, and you took this the wrong way. I'm not like misogynistic.

[00:19:03]This is just purely a fact of how >> the America is, right?

[00:19:09]>> Oh, no. Right.

[00:19:10]>> The amount of white men in America. No, there's no way that a woman, especially a woman of color, see, I fixed myself. a woman of color as such as Kamla would be able to get voted.

[00:19:20]>> Oh yeah, I actually disagree with you because guess what? A lot of those people who wouldn't vote for a woman because they're a woman or a black person because they're black, they're already going to vote red no matter what. Like I agree with you that like a woman a woman of color person of color wouldn't be able to get enough votes from the Republican party to win the presidency on a Republican ticket.

[00:19:44]That's why the GOP has never run a woman or a person of color in the general election. But I think that all those people for the most part kind of already just vote for the right. So I I absolutely do think a woman or a person of color running on the left could definitely get enough support to win.

[00:20:02]And I think that the popular vote from uh 2016 proved that when Hillary Clinton had won the popular vote over Trump when she was a woman. And I think that Obama's presidency proved that being a black man and serving as a two-term president.

[00:20:19]>> But then, okay, if that's the case and Kamla was really more qualified than Trump, then how the hell did Trump win?

[00:20:26]>> With the use of propaganda.

[00:20:28]>> Yep.

[00:20:29]>> You could say the same. The Democrats use propaganda. That doesn't mean anything. Everybody uses propaganda.

[00:20:34]It's part of politics.

[00:20:35]>> The propaganda is why it won them.

[00:20:36]That's what we're That's what we're arguing here.

[00:20:40]So he's the man of the people is what you're saying?

[00:20:42]>> No, >> no. I'm saying that he's a he's a con man of the people.

[00:20:46]>> He he cons the people.

[00:20:49]>> He dropped a meme coin and then rug pulled it.

[00:20:52]>> I could I could It's really easy to demonstrate how he con the people. He was able to convince 70% of Republicans that he won the 2020 election. He was able to convince 100% of Republicans um that Biden had uh skyrocketed the price of gas and caused inflation when that was caused by anybody and everybody but him. uh on top of about a billion other factors, right? Like I mean we we hear new propaganda from Trump every day.

[00:21:13]Like propaganda lies. That's the thing.

[00:21:15]I mean that's like Trump 101, dude. If you if you don't know that Trump is lying, >> then you don't know you're right from your left.

[00:21:22]>> I'm I'm not gonna I'm not going to talk about the election. But I think the this gas prices was literally due to Biden.

[00:21:31]Like Ukraine was invaded because like under Biden's presidency. That was like that's why the prices g skyrocketed, right?

[00:21:39]>> Do you think that was because of Biden?

[00:21:44]>> Well, it happened the moment he entered office. So, >> no, it didn't happen the moment he entered office. But what did he do to cause that?

[00:21:50]>> Here, Parker, I'm gonna leave this one to you. I'm going to go and start my live. I appreciate you for this, man. Of course. I also have some crazy [ __ ] to tell you about later.

[00:22:00]>> For sure. For sure. All right. See you, man. All right. I'll see you, bro.

[00:22:05]>> You were saying >> the Yeah, Ukraine was invaded like this like almost immediately after Biden took office. That was >> Yeah, but what did Biden do to cause that?

[00:22:17]>> Be president.

[00:22:20]>> He was president, therefore he caused it. Okay. So, so Trump caused the 14.8% unemployment that happened under his first administration. And also, Trump caused co CO happened under Biden, too. That's not >> CO happened. It started under Trump's administration. So therefore, you think it was caused by him, right?

[00:22:40]>> You know, that's just BS.

[00:22:42]>> Wait, wait. You just said that you believe things to be caused by him just because it happened under his administration, right?

[00:22:48]>> Okay. Unless I have evidence otherwise.

[00:22:52]>> Okay. And you have evidence otherwise?

[00:22:55]>> Yeah, I do.

[00:22:57]>> Okay. So then you understand that we could say that same thing true for the situation with uh with Ukraine.

[00:23:04]>> How >> uh there's literally one there's no evidence that Biden caused it with Ukraine. And two um it it's also continued when Trump is in office, right? Trump didn't end it. Like he said he was going to end it in 24 hours.

[00:23:19]>> No, he tried to though.

[00:23:22]>> He was trying to end it and then >> he tried to but he failed. Right.

[00:23:26]>> Okay. But you earlier you guys were talking about how the Democrats are better cuz they were trying to make immigration better. But in that case trying was totally fine. But now trying doesn't mean anything, right?

[00:23:40]>> But you wait trying with what? Sorry.

[00:23:43]>> You said earlier you said that Democrats were trying to make immigration easier and that was a reason to support them.

[00:23:49]But now because Trump was trying to get Ukraine and Russia to end war, that's not enough because he was just trying.

[00:23:55]He didn't actually get it done.

[00:23:57]>> You You understand that he said he was going to end it in 24 hours and that he put us in a worse position for addressing it than Biden did. And then also >> with Ukraine, >> I'm saying that he decided to drop the funding and then bring it back. So it inevitably put us in a worse position.

[00:24:15]>> I'm so sorry. You might like think I'm stupid for this. What's that mean?

[00:24:19]>> What does what mean?

[00:24:21]>> A war of a A war of what?

[00:24:25]position.

[00:24:26]>> A worse position.

[00:24:28]>> Oh, a worse position. I thought you saying a war of position.

[00:24:32]>> No, worse position.

[00:24:35]>> Uh, but he was still trying to end the war with Ukraine and Russia.

[00:24:43]>> Okay. But you understand that if we have better outcomes from one side, then I would pick them.

[00:24:49]>> What are the better outcomes under that Biden hat? is Biden didn't do anything about the war between Russ and Ukraine either.

[00:24:55]>> Yeah, I would argue that them fund getting the entirety of NATO and like the European Union to help fund Ukraine was important to Ukraine being able to build themselves up to respond and stay afloat for years rather than it being months as expected. Whereas specifically, if Trump were in office, I don't think he commands the respect of NATO and European allies to a greater extent because he's actively talked about annexing Greenland.

[00:25:23]>> How did Biden build up Ukraine? Cuz I literally saw clips of like farmers fighting tanks. Bro, that's like >> Well, a huge portion of their military now is like their drone warfare and how they respond in that context. So, how do they they built up funding for Ukraine to help defend themselves?

[00:25:44]And that was Biden.

[00:25:45]>> Yes.

[00:25:48]>> Okay. But Trump instead of I think if anything funding Ukraine just gives reason to prolong the war because you're you're trying to make the forces equal.

[00:25:58]That's just going to make the war >> that's purposeful to then prevent Russia from being able to go into Ukraine.

[00:26:04]>> A weaker Russia then is is good for the world stage.

[00:26:08]>> Imagine. Okay. Then what about Trump going in directly and trying to make negotiations negotiations with Putin?

[00:26:15]>> Um well I don't think that's been effective.

[00:26:18]>> Yeah, because of Putin, not because of Trump. Trump was trying to end the war directly instead of just make it last longer.

[00:26:25]>> Yeah, but that didn't work. So now he's okay with making it last longer because he's admitted he's wrong on Ukraine.

[00:26:33]>> Ah, I've never seen that. What do you mean? Where's the evidence? The evidence of what? Which part?

[00:26:41]>> Trump admitting he's wrong.

[00:26:43]>> Oh, look up. Trump admits he's wrong on Ukraine, increases funding.

[00:26:48]>> Okay, give me a second.

[00:26:49]>> He left. He got He probably got super angry and then and then left. So,