This video compilation demonstrates how courtroom proceedings address various criminal offenses including probation violations, neighbor disputes involving stalking and harassment, and drug crimes, highlighting the importance of accountability, victim impact statements, and the consequences of failing to appear in court.
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Added:It is July 21st of 2026 and this is the court gallery.
Today we open in Judge Simmons courtroom where a defendant seems more worried about her birthday party than her probation violations.
Then Judge Simmons presides over a shocking and lengthy neighbor dispute involving accusations of stalking, harassment, and even a missing cat. Huh.
Later in Judge McN's courtroom, a simple traffic stop spirals into a major drug and firearms bust with officers testifying about a K-9 alert and a stunning confession. And we close with a woman who has amassed an unbelievable 18 failure to appear warrants and she tries to claim it's all because she never got the mail. Ladies and gentlemen, you can't play games like these in court.
All that and more starts right now.
versus Jordan 302617 93 appearance please be assistant public defender on behalf of Mordy who my Okay, this is retail fraud third uh pre-trial.
How are we proceeding?
>> Uh your honor, the people have made a plea offer in this case in which um defendant would plead guilty as charged and sentencing agreement to front jail.
I will defer to defense as far as today.
>> I have Jordan Harren being on probation.
When did I put Jordan on probation?
>> April 23rd.
>> Oh, so there's a probation violation.
That's what I just was looking for. I don't see that they entered your probation on a job.
>> You don't not sure. Why not?
I can't hear you.
Why not?
You don't have a reason. Have you been reporting to probation, but you don't think it's important to know who your probation officer is?
Oh, he didn't find it important to know who your probation officer is.
You have the probation officer come up, please have se Oh, they can bring the fire back on the record in the matter. the state of Michigan versus Jordan Aaron. I think they have here.
Let's see.
Is that your probation officer?
What's your name?
Joseph something.
>> What's his name?
>> I'm saying you need to remember his last name, but you should know your probation officer's name. His name is Joseph.
Okay.
Am I talking to myself?
>> Said okay. You didn't respond.
>> Okay. So, the reason why I called you up, Mr. Sumpter, is because I have a case here.
uh the retail fraud third degree from July 7th and I didn't see a probation violation.
>> I did not know about >> so I need to make sure that while I have Jordan here I can address both if possible. Um a probation violation obviously the alleged incident here having occurred on July 6 would have triggered a violation there. So did you need a copy of something out of this file? I don't know. Okay.
How are we addressing this retail project?
As noted, we uh offer which is I don't know if the court would be inclined to honor such an agreement in light of investigation status, but that our status hasn't been participating in mental health counseling.
>> No. Wasn't that my order?
Why are you not participating in mental health counseling?
>> Excuse me.
>> Have you gone to community mental health?
So, what do you mean you can't afford it? Community mental health gives free counseling and resource. You haven't gone and I ordered it as part of your probation. That's literally the main thing I ordered as your probation to participate in mental health counseling.
And not only have you not done it, you've picked up a new case.
>> I'm sorry.
>> Is that a guilty plea?
>> You might need to coun your client. If the count if your client's not going to participate in probation, I have to put him in jail.
I think she might actually be a to that >> going to jail.
>> She would like to schedule going to jail.
>> The schedule.
>> Yes.
>> Won't be a schedule.
This not the doctor's appointment.
I told Jordan to go get mental health counseling in April. It's July. No mental health counseling, a new case.
>> I can say, your honor, that um some social workers from our office, we recently had a transition in social worker. So, the person who had previously been assigned to this case just handed that case off to another social worker in our office. She has been attempting to make a contact with Miss Harren Bean. I think they've been missing each other. Um but I do think the plan is to get her connected to making mental health.
>> It doesn't take a lot of planning. This is the kind of the issue I have even in the first case is just this this uh energy of I don't need to do what I'm supposed to do. Even when I'm talking to Jordan, they ask you what you're probation officer. I don't know.
Doesn't care. I said you don't think it's important.
explain after Mr. Something comes up that it's important for you to know at minimum your probation officer's name.
And Jordan's response is nothing. I said, "Okay, nothing." Because Jordan doesn't want to do probation. So, I'm going to go ahead and remand Jordan revoke probation pending a hearing on the violation. And then if Jordan wants to enter a formal plea, although I haven't already admitted to stealing milk in the middle of the night um from Quality Dairy, I'm assuming um if if there wants to be a formal plea, that can happen and then we can do one sentencing on the violation and the new and then I can make sure mental health counseling happens because I can order it from the jail.
the plan.
>> Really would not like to miss my birthday on the 28th. Just report.
I'm open to whatever you have to >> Oh, you think this is an open negotiation? I gave you probation. I gave you lenency after you had that other case.
>> Can you give me that case? And I have >> no you could have went to community mental health.
I you could have gone and got help. I have here you're on probation when you were originally charged with an aggravated assault on mental health worker or medical worker and because of your circumstances I said hey just do probation and get engaged in your counseling and you didn't do that.
It and it does not it doesn't cost you anything to go down the community mental health.
The only thing you do that you don't think it's important for you to do probation. You don't even think you need to know your probation officer's name.
That's because you don't think it's important. What you think is important is celebrating your birthday. What I think is important is making sure you get the help that you need so that we don't have uh other acts or spiraling acts. I can have a party on my birthday.
I don't party. I just want to be out on your birthday.
>> You have to have your priorities in your birthday. I'm I'm not I'm not scheduling you to come in for another court date. That's not going to happen.
>> No, you're going to be remanded today.
>> I'm going to set this for a hearing. You want to set up for a plea and I'm set it for a bond violation hearing. You have the right to have a hearing on the bond violation that you violated the conditions of your bond by picking up a new charge.
If you're found to be in violation of your uh not bond, probation. Your probation can be revoked. You can be sentenced to the original term of jail time. You understand that?
August 4th at 10:30. August 4th at 10:30 for both a plea and a probation violation period.
I'm ordering a screening and treatment while you're in the custody of the jail for mental health.
>> I'm sorry, I can't hear you.
So they they did what your medication medication >> they didn't give her her medication and I'm just if I can have another chance >> well we can talk about that on August >> I just got out of jail say that was the violation >> I'm sorry >> I just got out of >> time served >> time for what violation >> absolutely not June serve time on probation violation.
She serve she has no time. She serves on the probation violation. So where are we getting the time? What's What are you talking about?
>> That has nothing to do with the probation violation.
>> I don't know what you were incarcerated for.
>> Oh, that has nothing to do with the probation violation.
>> If you do not receive your medication, you need to submit a kite immediately.
But I have put an order in the probation file. I'm going to also put in the retail file to ensure that you're getting your medication and your uh mental health treatment.
If you get a problem with um Tik Tok t you let me know.
>> I sure will.
>> Any additional matters for the record?
>> Nothing on state of Michigan versus Christopher Wendowski 26-00305.
your >> may have a friend.
>> Thank you.
>> Yes. Good morning, your honor. Joshua N behalf of Christopher Leandowski who stands my right.
But we do have a precedence report. It was on the 16th. You got a copy?
>> I do have a copy of it, your honor. It appears factually accurate. Um there's no um deletions or additions. However, there was a correction I noticed on page three. Um >> I can wait for come back in.
>> Okay. U Mr. Martina, did you get a copy of the sentence report?
>> Yes, your honor. Uh no deletion addition or corrections.
>> Okay. And you did have a witness that wanted or a victim that wanted to address report. She's requested that I address her.
>> Okay, you can do so.
>> On my understanding, um, there have been some revisions since the the statement has been issued. Just go ahead and read it.
>> On behalf of Melissa, your honor, I am submitting this statement to explain how the defendant's conduct has affected my life and my family. Although there had been prior issues with the defendant regarding frivolous complaints about our dog, the harassment escalated significantly in June 2024 when the defendant had his teenage son place a threatened note on our door at midnight while wearing a ski mask. The note stated, "It's on, bitch."
This incident marked the beginning of a pattern of intimidation that caused my family and me to appear for our safety.
Since that time, the defendant has engaged in repeated stalking and harassing behavior.
He has followed me to another residence at night, photographed both of my homes, approached my security cameras, demonstrated knowledge of personal information about myself and my family that he should not reasonably know, and repeatedly looked into our backyard to observe our private property and activities. These actions have made us feel watched, unsafe, and unable to enjoy privacy and peace in our home. The defendant has repeatedly yelled profanities and sexual insults in front of our children and guests. He has engaged in ongoing property property related disputes including attempts to move the property line, flooding our yard with poor water, damaging our grass, breaking our fence, and making statements of who take our home assets.
He has also repeatedly involved law enforcement and other agencies in matters that did not warrant intervention. He called the police regarding normal activities including mowing our lawn, falsely accused me of theft and repeatedly contacted Miss Dig to claim the home of claiming to be the homeowner of our property. This resulted in our yard being unnecessarily marked multiple times and caused significant disruption, stress, and wasted resources.
When I removed the flag from our property as instructed by Miss Dig, he called the police on me again. Most concerning is that the defendant on November 29th, 2025 specifically told officer Burquette that he would not stop because she was not going to do anything about it. Unfortunately, his actions since entering his plea agreement have proven that statement to be true. In my view, this demonstrates not only an awareness of the impact of his actions, but an intent to continue them. As a direct result of the defendant's conduct, including following me to another residence, leaving threats on our door, photographing our property, engaging in ongoing harassment. We were forced to purchase additional additional security equipment to protect a family, and document incidents. We incurred $23 in expenses for three additional cameras and the necessary accessories that we purchased so we covered the defendants's conduct. These purchases would not have been necessary otherwise. The impact on our family has been substantial. I frequently worry about what may be happening outside my home, particularly when I'm alone with our children. I no longer feel comfortable allowing our children to play outside when the defendant is home and my partner has largely stopped working in the yard because of concerns that the defendant will create conflict. What should be a place of comfort and security and instead become a source of anxiety and stress. Your honor, when Mr. Leandowski accepted the plea agreement. I truly hope this harassment would finally end.
Instead, it has only continued. Since he stood before you last to accept his plea agreement, and you warned him to be neighborly, he has been peeping into our private backyard, making continued making frivolous police complaints about normal daily activities, which the police determined to be unfounded, maintain cameras pointed directly at our home, including our bedroom and bathroom window and our yard. repeatedly monitored our property, regularly activated a spotlight that illuminates our children's bedroom, waiting in his car for our guest to leave before flicking her off, then following her for several blocks, and worst of all, trap my cat, Callie, who has been missing ever since, and he is now actively trying to trap my other cats. His actions since accepting responsibility have left me feeling hopeless that this will never end. Rather than showing any remorse for changing his behavior, he has continued to try to find ways to harass my family and try to disturb my quality of life. I respectfully ask the court to give us relief and consider that his conduct after entering his committee demonstrates that without meaningful consequences and strict conditions, his pattern of harassment is going to continue potentially escalate through. I respectfully request restitution for the $23 spent on the three additional security cameras and necessary accessories that were purchased as a direct result of the defendant's conduct due to the history with the defendant's stalking behavior. I also ask the court to prohibit the defendant from intentionally monitoring, photographing, recording, or otherwise me, my family, our guest or property. While I understand that neighbors may legitimately use security cameras to monitor their own property, I ask that the court prohibit the defendant from directing cameras, recording devices, lights, or other equipment directly toward our residents in a manner intended to monitor our activities or interfere with a reason privacy of our home. I also respectfully ask that as a condition of Mr. Leandowski's sentence, he be prohibited from having any direct indirect contact or communication with me, my children, our family members, or our friends.
This should include in-person contact, phone calls, text messages, emails, social media, communication through third parties and non-verbal gestures, or any other action intended to intimidate, harass, or provoke us. Given his ongoing pattern of behavior, I believe these restrictions are necessary to protect my family and friends, prevent further harassment, and allow us to feel safe in our home. I further request that the court prohibit the defendant or third party on his behalf from using law enforcement, emergency services, utility services, or other government agencies as a means of harassment.
I'm not asking that legitimate complaints be prohibited, but that knowingly frivolous, retaliatory, or harassing complaints intended to intimidate or disrupt our be treated as a violation of probation. I also respectfully request the longest probationary terms committed by law. My concern is based on the defendant's history and my experience with the defendant was previously on probation and his on his conduct increased after that probation ended given his state of intention not to stop his contending behavior after entering into agreement and his history of escalating conduct. I believe ongoing protect my family and discourage future misconduct. Finally, I strongly urge the court to require a comprehensive mental health evaluation and compliance with any recommended counsel and treatment of supporting services as a condition of probation. My request is not based on punishment but on prevention. The defendant's repeated conflict with neighbors, inability to respect boundaries, continue behavior despite police involvement in criminal charges and apparent failure to recognize appropriate conduct suggested intervention is necessary. addressing the underlying cause of disability with treatment education supervision likely future harvestment improve community safety help prevent similar harm others.
Thank you for your time and consideration submitted.
But I would also note that you obviously have a statement from Shannon. She also wanted me to just clearly convey that Annie listen the other prime minister Shannon >> she requested I clearly convey knowing that an element is sought uncontented conduct that it's her position that any additional contact uh from Mr. 11 bowski is unconented. Um and that includes ongoing issues um from headlights being flashed for extended periods at night into windows. Um so that is all she wanted.
As far as the people's position, I would respectfully request that the the agreement in this case was to c probation 12 months. I would request that the court do impose the full 12 month term of probation. Um, I think that moral recognition therapy would be an appropriate uh condition of probation in this case to help the defendant understand um his own actions and his own role rather than trying to uh I guess blame others. Um, and just in general, I I think everyone in this room wants just it'd be best that everyone just leave each other alone, just try to to peacefully coexist. I think that's what everybody wants. Um and at that point I will defer to the defense. Thank you.
>> We did receive an email or communication I should say from Shannon Aurora which would have provided to both uh parties.
Uh this is in in her impact statement.
She said I am uh I am not good at writing those. This is all new to me. I've never had to deal with this before. I did write I did try to write it in a way that the judge could understand some of what we have been through. It's so it's so much hard to put it all down. If you have any questions or need to understand anything further, please don't hesitate to call or email me any time. I just hope you can help me get him stopped and he and his family just leave us alone. He seems to be trying to see what all he can do to continue to get away with. For example, last week I was outside doing trash and my husband was talking to the mailman who is his work friend. Chris Leandowski comes outside to get his mail. When he looks at me, they yell something to my husband. It seems like his game is to continue to try and harass or communicate would be against the bond and no contact order he is on. Then two days ago, he came outside when I went outside in the evening to water before 100 degree day hit and he went over to the live traps he had put up and put a camera on it pointing at our home. This was just a stalking and harassment move because he has at least six cameras up already pointed towards us in his yard.
So the camera is not needed.
His other cameras work and can see that the cage clearly from where he had it sitting.
Then after he got his camera situated and pointed at me, he sat on the front step and watched me and watched me through his cameras from his phone as some of the cameras light up when they are live viewing.
So he sat there almost 30 minutes while I was watering. He likes to continue to stop and keep me in fear and see what he can get away with. Since this is all new and I never been stopped before, I am not sure if his behavior is loud while he is on bond. It seems like it to me it's not. He just seems to not take any of this seriously and wants to continue to campaign to make us fearful. I have lived in this neighborhood almost my entire life. I have many friends and family who live here. We have never had any issues with any neighbors. I take care of my mom who also lives in the neighborhood in her own home and leads me close. Chris has seen or been seen sitting in front of her house after he stopped me and followed me to her home.
This is unsettling and very concerning.
I just hope you can help us be safe to get him stopped.
We should not have to deal with this type of behavior and harassment. This is the second time you targeted me and had a had a probation officer.
As soon as probation and no contact were ended, he was worse than he was before. It is like he lives to keep this going to escalate instead of learning to leave us alone. He had to take a management class last time and did nothing. He seems to be very revenful and wants to make our lives as miserable as possible and fear him.
Thank you for listening. Thank you for your help. If you think you need to make sure you have my last impact statement, please contact Melissa Barry at the prosecutor office. I only have hard copies because I don't have a computer.
So, I ran them up to the officer after I typed him off the library. I went to see a picture of him when he got home one day and saw me sitting on the porch. As soon as he got out of his van, he went to the edge of his property to videotape me. This was included in the report, I think, but it will give you an idea of the bizarre crazy behavior. I had put my chair sideways and a plant up to block him so that I could maybe sit on my porch and not be stopped. And he found a way around it by going to this.
I will send the pictures separately.
Thank you for all you do. I appreciate your time. Have a nice day. I think I provided you the pictures. Do you have a copy of the pictures?
Can I just use those pictures?
This appears to be a picture of a cat and a cat.
Is this you? Who is this? Okay, this is a picture of I suppose the defendant with a cat and appears a cat. Is that supposed to be their cat? I don't know what's happening. On the way out of them, Melissa has alleged that there is a neighborhood cat that she had was feeding she used her cat.
>> Yes.
>> But it's not her cat.
>> It legally was not her cat.
>> Oh.
But the trap was on his property, >> correct?
>> Oh. Um, something about something's cut off our front yard and one facing our bedroom.
I'm assuming I don't know. Is this this might be I guess to show because the person who wrote this is not here. So I'm not sure what this is supposed to show me.
Unless this is their property and it's supposed to show me his camera facing their property.
>> I think that is what >> Okay. And where did do we know where they got these photos from? Is that was this in the police report or something?
>> How do they how did they get a picture from his camera?
No, I believe that they took a picture of whose camera.
>> No, this is the vantage point >> from their camera.
>> So, okay. So, what is it supposed to be showing me? Whatever is in the circle.
>> Well, I don't know what that is. I I don't know what it is. It's >> What's your name?
>> I'm sorry.
>> Melissa.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. You're the other victim.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Do you know what this is?
>> Yeah, I did that with my phone. It's showing their one of Well, it's cut off because it shows the camera that they have pointed directly at our house and our property.
>> Okay. Well, this What is the circle?
What is >> That's a camera that they have sitting ON THEIR GARBAGE.
>> OH, I thought this was a cup.
>> No.
>> Okay. That's a camera on the garbage.
>> Yeah. And they have three other ones facing directly at our bedroom. Our front yard and our bathroom.
>> Okay. But is this this is So, this is your house on the other side of the gate. Okay. And then >> I think that she was standing on her property taking a picture.
>> Got it. Okay. And then these are cameras. You say facing our bedroom and bathroom.
>> Yeah.
That means you're seeing from our bedroom window.
>> How can you tell what the vantage point of these cameras are?
>> The only thing it can look at is like that's directly at our We have two bedrooms and a bathroom right there.
Well, this camera looks like it's pointing that way. Like I n I got nine cameras. You can't tell what you can see out that >> in that area is the side of our house.
>> And you believe that he's got security cameras to watch your bathroom and your bedroom.
>> He said when he set it up, now I can see the whole thing.
>> He can see the whole thing.
>> Yeah, that's what he said when he set it up.
>> The whole thing of what?
>> To our other camera.
>> He told it to you.
>> He told our camera.
>> He told your camera. So he went and spoke to your camera. So >> So the initial allegation was him repeatedly walking up to their security camera and making threatening and harassing often that some sexual message was >> some sexual comments.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. This is another picture of the camera. Correct ma'am?
>> Yeah. He he turned one directly towards our front yard. It used to be facing towards his front.
>> What is this? Spotlight has shinies for our backyard.
>> This is your backyard.
>> That's our backyard. And that's how much >> No, I mean where the light is. It's his backyard.
>> It's kind of cool back there.
>> What time of day is this though?
>> Says on the bottom 11.
>> It don't It just says the It just says the date.
>> Oh, it's about 11 or 12 at night.
>> Okay. And then this is to show us the light through your home. That's enough.
>> Okay. And what time of day was this?
>> I'm sorry.
>> You're saying the pool >> at minute.
>> Not saying that. I'd like to first.
>> No, absolutely. You're going to have we you got to allocate because um this is a lot.
>> This is a lot. It's been a lot from day one and I think the prosecutor agree with me on that. We have 260 plus videos.
um of neighbors corresponding or lack thereof. Um but I believe this all started when the Leandowski moved into the neighborhood.
>> Okay. So the others were living there first. The Leandowskis moved in.
>> Correct.
>> Okay.
>> They have found out Mr. Leandowski were registered sex.
>> I sus I saw that and I not going to lie.
I immediately suspected. I wonder if this is an underlying concern. So obviously I words were exchanged which the prosecutor I mean we've seen it on videos between um the complainant her partner to the Leandowskis about his registration.
>> Okay.
>> Um the complainant's partner had used the weed whacker one day and described pedo into the lendski's front yard. Um, a lot of things have gone haywire.
>> And I'm not gonna I don't want to break your rhythm, but the only reason why I'm stopping is because as I was reading one of the impact statements, the first I wrote notes um because the the statement of leaving something that's a note that says it's on immediately to me um implies that there was a previous interaction.
That's what it implied to me. That's why I wrote it there. Why would they?
Someone just came and said it's on. That means something was done to them first.
>> And I'm not saying the, you know, talking in the camera, you know, certain things that were said were were acceptable, but this has been going on for quite some time. Police have been out. I think they know everybody within these three houses on a first, middle, and last name basis.
Okay. Um, I actually met 11kis at the house one afternoon and I let the prosecutor know I was headed there in case we had more police contact. It is very heated. Somebody steps on the other property, 911 is called, right? Um, there are more cameras between two houses than you would see in downtown Lancing. Okay.
The Leandowskis have cameras placed around their home to at this point protect themselves to a certain extent.
Um, they're not doing anything to harass, intimidate people since the plea has been entered. There's been no bond violations. He has been trying to use and enjoy his property the best of his ability. Um, I've sent Mr. um I've sent Ross some pictures in the past about camera placements, even watching some of the axon camera uh videos that I've received has a camera angle from the complainant's back garage into my client's sun room in their backyard. You can see right in waist up and >> you can see >> the camera the video you could see right into my client's sun room.
>> So you had >> anybody from the waist >> from inside of the complainant's house looking into his house >> outside of the complainant's garage.
Okay. Where they have the camera >> how did you get the video?
>> Uh it was tendered to me by the prosecutor's office.
>> Oh okay. So that you can see that it's directed into his >> Yes. So, you know, and at this point, my clients can't even speak inside their house without being listened to on I'm going to say a lowend estimate is 13 cameras that I could see even to the tree in the front yard on the adjacent property.
>> Cameras on the other properties, >> correct? It is. It's like Fort Knox. Um, so you know, when there's an issue or when Mr. Labodasi's outside looking at this privacy fence for example. He's got a pool and the fence has been leaning and it's starting to lean more and more on the property and it's going to become a safety hazard >> and he's been instructed by this Lancing Police Department not to touch the fence as it will be a violation of this case.
The problem is when that fence falls, his pool then becomes exposed and he's got a bigger liability of somebody falling in it or keeping people out. So, he can't even touch his property to fix certain things without a bond violation being alleged or any contact. like he's at the fence line, which he is allowed to be, looking at the property line and seeing how he can try to jury rig this thing before it collapses. Um, I know that the complaintants have put up more cameras since the pleat. One is a motion activated light that turns on uh when the cameras run and it is literally on the fence post pointing right down the fence line to the street across the street into Shannon's windows. I mean it is this setup I I when I got there you can tell exactly which three houses have been feuding for years and it's unfortunate. Nobody's going to move.
Everybody needs to be neighbor. It It's affected the Leandowskis where they can't go outside without running a risk of a bomb violation. And for an extreme amount of time, he wasn't allowed back in. Then we had him in for work hours.
And now he's been there since the time of the plea. And the police haven't made any new arrests.
They've come out I think once or twice because there was alleged trespassing that somebody might have mowed a portion of somebody else's yard by a fence line.
Um, you know, I know that the Lancing Police Resources have got to just be up to here. And, you know, I I've advised, you know, my clients were willing to sit down and hash it out with everybody and just kind of put it put it down. And I think a lot has to do with the sore registration status. He's been compliant. always been >> this is a conviction from 22 years ago.
>> Correct.
>> We don't know anything any circumstances about anyway. So that um not saying that there's not a concern when you're in a community and you see certain types of neighbors always look up that kind of stuff. And so if you know you have children or whatever there's not a concern there's a reason why the sex offender registry is in place. But everyone on the sex offender registry is not uh a person that is here to cause harm in your community. Um I remember when I was at the department of correction well at the AG's office and I was uh defending a case against the state of Michigan and one of the defendants is really nervous. He was he was retired from the department of corrections.
people want to let me know. I'm nervous because I don't want it to come out that I'm on the sex offender registry. This is a retired officer from Department of Correction. The reason why he was on the sex offender registry is because his current wife of 40 years was underage when they started dating.
Romeo and Juliet case is what they call it. I say that only to say you don't under unless you know the facts of the underlying case. Just seeing someone on these sex offender registries should be an alert to you but not should does not give you license to decide that they're here to cause harm. I don't know if that's what's going on here. Um I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if there's children in this area or if they're just concerned about their safety. But what I what is very clear is that no one is being neighborly.
Your honor, if I may, Melissa has indicated to me that she would like me opportunity to address the court.
>> She can you come up, please.
You can come right up to the stand here.
So, you're raising your hand. What's your name?
>> Um, my name is Conori.
>> Oh, this is your dad.
>> Okay.
>> Um, I don't feel safe going outside.
>> How old are you?
>> I'm 16.
>> You don't feel safe going outside because of what's going on in the neighborhood? I've been threatened by >> I would object for the defendant to speak for the crime victim to speak and the prosection is overruled.
You said you throw what?
>> I feel like unsafe to go outside because I've been threatened by both the neighbors.
Um been threatened to get my ass beat.
My mom has been threatened to get her teeth knocked in by the neighbor been spit at.
Um, and it's it's really sad that I'm scared to go outside and like I have friends over and this whole spotlight thing. We have we have been outside at 11 12 at night in the pool just having fun.
>> And for the record, the reason why I'm over overruling your objection is I can receive a statement from any of his character references that want to submit a statement has nothing to do with the Crime Victim Right Act.
>> Thank you, your honor. Thank you. First one, >> um, Connor is the one who put the threat on our door at midnight.
>> Can you speak up?
>> Connor is the one who put the threat on our door at midnight. So, two years ago, he was 14 being sent over by his parents. So, we met on the door and he also is on video threatening us after he was arrested as well. So, >> after Tyler was arrested or the dad?
>> Dad was arrested.
>> Just for the record, can you state your name, please? Melissa.
>> Can you spell it, please? Uh, >> M L I S A N D R U S. Okay.
>> Um I I just heard a lot of like victim blaming because we did not know he was on the sex offender list for 2 years after they moved in. We didn't even know their name. We were continuously no problems before they were here. They moved in and it was constant calls about our dogs nonstop. So we do have a camera on the garage. the part of this vantage point to see what the dogs are doing so we can prove that the dogs are >> You don't have to explain to me under any circumstances why you have a camera, right? Nobody has to explain. Everyone has the right to put cameras up in their home, >> but is not to be there. It's to watch the dogs to make sure dogs.
>> I don't I don't believe no one I would hope no one's paying for camera footage to view someone else. We did not know that they were on a sex offender list until after we got a a ticket for the dogs and which we won because we have camera footage to show that that the dogs were inside the house. They weren't even outside the house. But that's when we found out what his name was. And after that, at some point we found out that he was on the thing, but it had nothing to do with that. We've never had anything. We've never indicated anything about it. Well, my partner did eventually because he kept scalping our lawn and mowing it down. But this all start >> You're saying what? You're saying he I don't know who you're talking about.
You're saying Leandowski was scalping your lawn.
>> As soon as they moved in, it started constant. We constantly had animal control and the cops at our house because of the dogs.
>> Okay.
>> And then we were not like tolerating that behavior. We were telling them like the dogs are not barking. We were showing them video footage of it and then it escalated because um probably because my partner had gotten tired of they came over into our yard, they mowed it down and it was exposing dirt.
>> He came into your yard.
>> Yeah, he was mowing two feet into our yard.
>> This there was no fence at the time. Is what you're saying?
>> No, we ended up putting one out but his wife pulled it out and threw it all over our yard and that's why we installed more cameras because she started pulling our fence down and our other cameras were old and we missed it.
replaced other ones with new ones so that we could see because she was tearing our fence down. She was having her son help. So they were out there throwing it all over our yard. And so yeah, at that point after two years of this constant whatever we did carve a thing in their in their yard or whatever because the petal in there.
>> Yeah. And I already had that in because I told him like we got we have tried very hard not to respond to anything they do. We put up the cameras so we could see what they were destroying because they were sort of pulling our fence down. And then he started coming over and talking to the cameras. He started saying stuff about the kids um the younger kid's mom and telling me that I >> your children's mom. You see >> the um John's kid's mom.
>> Um my my partner's mother.
>> Okay. He was coming over and when she was over dropping the kids off, the kids were outside playing. He was yelling, "You need to learn to leak. Your light was closed. Three baby daddies." And in front of the kids screaming that in front of Paige screaming that, insulting both of us in front of our cameras >> on the camera and in person when she was there, he they said that they called the news because we required assistance over when the government shutdown happened in November and we requested assistance. So they were on on the cameras telling them, "Oh, we called the news because you're misusing whatever because you got assistance or whatever."
>> Wait, how would they know that you requested assistance?
>> Because they turned their camera to face our yard and only our yard so they can see our front yard. So when the people came up to give us the assistance, they have it on camera. And they called on us two times since the plea deal. They called and they said that our dogs were barking consistently. And we pulled up all the footage and two minutes of the entire day added together is how much our dogs barked. We had the back door open so they could go in and out of the house as they felt like because it was 70s something degrees. It was nice. So they're coming in and out of the house and altogether bark less than two minutes. The cop showed up at our house.
Oh, they said that they're you're harassing them by letting your dog out to bark all day. And then she called because the grass where our fence is, we have four inches behind. That's our property. They're not trimming it. So, it's it's overgrowing. So, I tried to reach back there in our property 4 in our fence to try to cut it down >> and two minutes after I did that, she was on the phone with the cops calling them to say, "She's trespassing. I want her arrested." She took five officers times and one sergeant's time demanding a sergeant come out and arrest me because I was trying to trim the weeds behind the fence and I we've been doing nothing. We're sitting there in silence in the house.
We have not engaged aside from the pedal thing. We have been completely silent.
They will not be able to show any footage of us doing anything. And the cat, I have been taking care of the cat.
I had an appointment for the cat the next day to go get microchipped and veterinarian care. He saw me put out the tracks because he had the cameras up.
>> We'll be ready when we're ready.
>> Okay. Sorry. Um, last year in August, he told our cameras, we looked at our cameras after taking the live trap out of the yard. He looked at our cameras and he waved and he said, "There's another dead cat. Now I can trap another one." And then as soon as he saw me put up the TNR traps for my cats to go get veterinarian care and get them microchipped, he hurried up and he armed his live trap and put it on directly on the other side of our fence where they eat. And my cat had been there every day for months, multiple times a day. And she >> is this cat?
>> Yes.
>> But my understanding is this is not your cat.
>> I have been taking care of her at food shelter medical appointment. Yes, I consider her my cat.
>> No, not your consideration. You don't own the cat, ma'am?
>> I was microchipping it the next day. So, the police >> How can you microchip someone else's cat?
>> The police said that because I've been taking care of her that she's considered mine. They have a open lararseny case right now that they're investigating.
>> Open lararseny. Yes.
>> Because she's mine. I take care of her.
>> I don't understand how the larseny is connected to the cat.
>> Because they sold the cat. They he took the cat, put her in the garage, and never let her go. She's disappeared. She never returned. Oh, you're saying they have open lararseny cat because of the cat?
>> Yes, because she was considered mine because I've been taking care of her for several months.
>> But the cat lives in the community.
>> Uh she's an outdoor cat, but I take care of her. I feed her. I house her and I've got and I was had an appointment for medical care. That's what they consider owning a cat or responsibility for.
>> Well, I don't know because if it's an outdoor cat, how do we know the cat doesn't have a home?
>> They might. They check for a microchip and everything.
>> We don't have to microchip a cat, >> right?
>> What if the cat has a home and then during the day >> animal control says she's considered my cat because I've been taking care of her. I have food, shelter, housing, and I'm providing medical care for her.
>> But the cat doesn't live in here.
>> No, it doesn't have to live in the home in order to be considered mine. If I'm taking care of it, I'm providing medical.
>> But so then in the winter, the cat can live outside is what you're saying.
>> Yeah. Animal control tells you that.
>> Yeah. I have a I have a shelter that has heat inside >> in your yard for the cat.
>> Front porch. Yeah. On the front porch.
>> Oh, so the cat goes in there in the in the winter.
>> Yeah. And there's a camera on top of >> So you do have You do have indoor shelter for the cat.
>> Yeah. I provide shelter.
>> So you rescued the cat is what you're saying.
>> Yeah. And I've got two other cats that I rescued. One of them right now is inside the house. She had to have surgery when we got her um from the TNR program and I got them all medical care and got them all fixed. So, if you own the cat, then you do know that the cat can't go on someone else's property. Well, >> she's an outdoor cat. There's outdoor.
>> It's going to be You're going to take ownership. I don't have to let your cat be on my property if I don't want your cat on my property.
>> Did you know that?
>> No.
>> Yeah.
>> So, you said it's yours now. You're responsible. If your cat come on my property and tear up my landscape bed, who do you think is responsible?
>> The cats have never >> No, I'm asking it's a hypothetical, right? Who you think now? Now, you've now taken ownership of this cat. Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, that's the concern that you have when you take ownership of something that you say you want to live outside. Well, now you're responsible when it's on other people's property and they don't have to they if they have a pool, hypothetically, they don't have to allow your cat to be drinking in their pool or whatever. Um, anything else that you want to share? Because I I I WANT TO CLARIFY. THERE IS NO victim blaming.
>> Yeah. I just heard a lot, well, they did this and they did that and it's because I'm a pedophile. That had nothing to do with any of his record or anything. He didn't even know his name when this >> and then because of the already >> it was because actions.
>> Then you did finally because you got a complaint. Then you finally got his name because of >> So we didn't even know anything about him. We were trying so hard to just ignore him and then it just escalated from there because we kept getting calls after calls after calls and then he started coming into our yard and mowing into our yard and he just >> Okay. But that's been addressed though is my understanding. Let me because I have to I do have to bring the jury up.
I just want to understand is there a meaningful avenue for you all to be neighborly next to each other. I don't know because we've had I've asked officers to have conversations with him before and say could you please let him know to you know this or that and they're like he's just not getting he's just not like we've tried and it's like talking to a wall and that's why I said I feel like he needs to have like a mental health evaluation to kind of like talk to him about you know like this is not neighborly this is why this is wrong like you think that this if we are responding to what he is doing >> let me stop you and ask a question do you think that there's a meaningful avenue for you be a neighborly individual next to your neighbors.
>> Okay.
>> No, I said you. I'm talking about your actions. You're you're responsible over your actions. You're not responsible over anyone else's. And you can't control their actions. Can you be neighborly?
>> That's right.
>> The answer is no. He's not willing to be neighborly. You see, her answer wasn't like that. Well, >> she said, >> "But her actions."
>> Well, no. No. You're Well, you're all right. You're victim.
>> No.
>> Yeah. You You plead guilty to stalking.
She didn't. That is If you can't be neighborly, if you can't say, "No, I can be neighborly. You know, I can recognize that um even though I have a pool there, it could be a concern that the there's a a bright light shining into my neighbor's bedrooms at midnight. I can be neighborly and turn that off. I can be neighborly and not mow into their property or or or maybe not trap their cat that I know that they're caring for because it's walking through my backyard. That's neighborly.
I asked you if you could. You said no.
Any additional allei?
>> You're I'm just going to put on the record that I've talked to Chris about this before and Ross about this just now, but I'll put on the record I will I will be the intermediary. I will take everybody out one night to dinner and we can sit down in the public place and hash this out. And if we can't work it out, we can't work it out. And it's my treat.
>> I mediators.
>> I don't want to be back here.
>> No, it's just it's not even just being about about being back here. It's just we're supposed to be community, right?
We live on the street together. We all pay taxes together. Uh hopefully we're all working and pouring into the system together. Why can't we share even though we have differences? Why can't we share community or be private? I live in a community. I mind my business. I did have I did recently have someone ring my bell and ask me if I could turn the chirp off on my on my um camera system.
No, but I'm not I what I will do is I'll adjust the times that it's chirping to be neighborly. But I have a security measure for a reason and it has nothing to do with you. Yeah. It just lets you lets me let you know you're on my property.
>> And that's what I when we when the one time that we have ever conversed, that's what I said. I never once came over and said, "Hey, dogs are barking." Or, "Hey, this is bothering us for anything. They never came over. It was police, please, please, please, please." We never have had any incidents before. Nobody had ever complained about the dogs. There's never been an issue. And all of a sudden they move in and it's boom boom boom boom boom and they're running their sirens to get the dogs to bark. They're doing all this stuff and we're like, >> "Well, everybody is not as animal friendly as you may be. You sound like you are very animal friendly." And he sounds like he's not if he's trapping bats that walk through his backpack >> and we don't need to have a conversation to all like get along as friends. If you're just trying to not interact, but when I'm getting called for trying to trim like the weed and I'm getting police, >> it's petty behavior now. I agree. I don't think they need to go to dinner.
>> I don't think they need to go to dinner about anything that's petty. I think what needs to happen um to the credit of if the officer did say that your your your client is not willing to formulate his mindset that I need to be neighborly and and let's start over with a fresh slate. Let's moving forward. I'm not going to call 911 because her dogs are barking. If her dogs are relentlessly barking, that's different. Um, but put your hand down. We've we've had enough allecution now. Um, but but I'm not going to invoke law enforcement who should be out here fighting crime. Okay.
Um, because I don't want to hear a dark bark and I'm not going to leave a light on that's beaming into their property late at night. I can't address his cameras or where they're directed. You can put your cameras wherever you feel like you need to put your cameras.
>> Have an issue with the ones that he has directly at our house. He literally turned it so that he >> I'm like listen the same person who came to knock rang my bell which I didn't even answer um to ask me to turn my truck off has one camera and it faces directly towards my house >> right >> I don't like it I don't like it but you have the right in your property to put a camera wherever you want >> but if somebody's been following you to different residences >> that's different that's different than I can't control where he puts his camera is what I'm saying I can't control I can't allow him to follow you, but I can't control where he puts his camera.
He has the right to put a camera wherever he wants around his property if he believes I would hope for his security. I don't know why anyone else would pay for camera footage to be honest. But you also have the right to protect if you have windows, put the shades down when it gets dark so they can't see in there. Um that's I can't tell him you've got to move your cameras. I don't have the I don't have the right or authority to do that. Um that would be like me telling you the same thing. You can't put a camera directing yourself towards his house, even though you may have a valid concern about your safety. And so you have the right to put your cameras wherever you want. Um, and so I can't address the cameras. He's not allowed to follow you anywhere. That's that's ridiculous. And who's spending time following people?
Like that's that's ridiculous. Um, and if someone is following you, we we in the court like to preserve evidence and you've got cameras. Um, you see someone following you, snap a picture of it. you call 911 because that would be ridiculous and that would create a presumption of something bigger than just a neighborhood dispute that you're going outside of your way to follow a neighbor somewhere >> to my other residents to take pictures of my >> and when he and and you saw him wasn't he in his car when this happened?
>> Yeah, I have my camera >> and and then you have it on your camera.
>> Yeah, I have it on my security cameras over over there.
>> And then when he got there, what did he do? told the police. He said, he's like, "See, this is the other house." And he showed the police pictures.
>> You Oh, you saw that video?
>> Yeah.
>> I think this is from few years back.
>> No, it wasn't. It was It was literally last year. What are you talking about?
>> Okay. Ridiculous.
>> But it's ridiculous. It obviously is documented.
>> What in the world are you following a neighbor for to their other house and then telling the police? Something's I would believe. I would agree something's off if you're doing that.
Something you would you would you would probably are a little crazy if you're doing that. You're following someone to another house and then videoing it or pictures and giving it to the police.
Put your hand down. I'm done. I got to bring a jury up here. Um I think the recommendation is appropriate because anytime you can't control your behavior and the judge asks you is there's a meaning meaningful way for you all to come to resolution so you can live in peace in the property you pay for in this economy and you're you tell me no.
Well, then we have to supervise your piece. Then, >> one thing I'd say the recommendation and what you follow from it, I'd ask that you strike the alcohol and drug testing. Alcohol and drugs have never been an issue here. It's never been alleged that any drunk at night walking around immediate um had no issues on bond with it. There's no no substance abuse allegations whatsoever. So, I asked that that be stricken from any recommendation or I think even in the report it indicates a concern about um the defendant dialing back his remorse. And I don't think he can have remorse um for his action. And I'm not saying that he doesn't have a a reasonable position to take as it relates to anything that he believed he was wronged about. But we're here for your actions and you're only to be accountable for your actions. You've not shown me even in my direct question to you about how you can be neighborly. It's you know what? Yeah, your honor, maybe I won't just be calling the police on them. I'll instruct my wife not to have, you know, comments back and forth, you know, because what we should be trying to figure out is how everyone can be comfortable in their in their own community. That it's unreasonable. It's unreasonable. And so if you can't figure it out, then we'll navigate that for you. Uh the order of the court m you can uh take release yourself from the stand.
Thank you. A 90 days Egan County Jail with credit for 2 days also spend 88 days upon substantial completion of 14 months probation. While on probation, I'm going to continue the no contact uh with uh Melissa Andress in this matter. We did receive a letter from someone else that I believe was the plea firm to dismiss one. Yeah, it was dismissed one and then a 10th on the other. And then we had a sentencing cap for 12 months probation.
>> Oh, 12 months is the sentencing cap. We won't go beyond that. I don't know. I hope it wouldn't be necessary. We go beyond if it violates. I can tell you that. And we won't uh hesitate with that because if you can't be neighborly, then you need to go uh live on an island by yourself.
That's just what we have to do. We can't figure out how we can work with each other. And I mean, all neighbors are not great. I have a a neighbor to me that his property is always overgrown.
I could easily make life hectic for him.
I don't Why is that beneficial? I have neighbor I don't have any animals. I have all my neighbors all my neighbors have animals.
Their dogs bark all the time. Cats walk through my property all the time. I could easily put up a trap and trap people's cats. I could easily call animal control and and complain. That's not neighborly.
>> Excuse me.
>> It's not against the law to be.
>> No, it's against the law to create the kind of interactions you're creating.
>> And that's why you're here.
>> And you have yet to take any accountability for your actions. And so until you can take accountability, then you can see how you need to do your part to move in a different direction.
But because you are not and you think that you have the right to continue to do this action because of whatever they're doing, it's not going to farewell for you.
That's the problem. I think your attorney has tried to explain that to you. Um, >> I'm sure he has. If he's willing to take everybody out to dinner on his expense after this case is over.
>> I asked him.
>> Okay. So, you're gonna take credit for that, too?
>> I did. Ask him.
>> Mediation, break bread.
>> I suggested a pool party. You know, >> I don't think they want to come to the pool.
>> I don't think so. I suggested it.
>> I'm going to order that he not possess alcohol, marijuana, or controlled substance. He's not to use or possess a firearm, ammunition, or weapon of any kind. He is to maintain his employment and provide evidence of that. Uh you're not to be at any bars or nightclubs. I am not going to require testing. So that will only become an issue if the police get called to your house and you're drunk or something to that effect. I'm just telling you how this could become because I'm not going to order testing because I'm not concerned about that.
What I'm concerned about is can you be neighborly. I'm not saying that you should allow yourself or your family to be abused if that's what you believe is happening. That's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is you are in control of your actions and you do not have to trap somebody's cat unless they're doing some damage to your property. You can chew a cat.
>> I I did not do that to cats.
>> I I could believe that. I believe I could absolutely believe that.
>> I am Am I going to get a cat in my trap?
>> If it goes in there if it goes in there.
But I think the allegations that you kept the cat after that, which I don't >> No, we let it go.
>> Okay. Um, so um, and to and and even to your credit, I think that at this point because of the nature of the behavior, everyone is ultra sensitive to everything that's being done. And that goes to you too, ma'am. You have to not be ultra sensitive about everything.
Everything is not an attack on you.
Every time you see the light on this camera doesn't mean you can decide that he's watching you. You don't have a clue who's doing what on their phone.
>> Well, when they come on my property, then I'm That is Did >> Did I ask you to keep talking while I'm talking?
>> Did I It should not take me an hour to say this to you.
>> I am explaining to the neighbor that she too, she tried to be neighborly, which she said she could. And and the thing is, you don't know what someone is always know what someone's doing just because it may be perceived that way.
You may think that the camera's in your direction, but it might not be. It might be in also picking up the flow to his windows that are over there. I don't know. But don't always assume that everything is about out them being out to get you.
>> Um, and so, but if you're trying to mow your lawn or get the overgrown and then the police show up, I think it's safe to assume this is about you. That's not being neighborly either because the neighborly person would make sure their stuff isn't overgrown onto their neighbor's stuff.
That's first. That's what a neighborly person I you don't have to worry about trimming on on my side because I'm going to take care of it for you.
So, everyone needs to do their part, but you're required to do your part because you're on the course of your vision. Um, and so I am going to order anger management.
>> I already did that.
You'll do it again. Talk over me again.
I'm not your neighbor.
Does anger management provide evidence of that? I'mma write again because because I think you have a lack of control over your mouth.
>> I have the right to say what I want on my property.
>> You're not in here. You are not in your This is my property right here. You don't have the right to say what you want when I'm sentencing you. And when I tell you to stop talking over me, you take this stance and you bend your knee and you put your hand in your pocket and tell me what you have the right to say, I have the right to give you 90 days in jail right now plus a contempt because I've already ordered you to stop talking while I'm trying to sentence you.
This is not your property. This is a courtroom of law. There will be order.
I've given more than ample time for everyone to give the get their words out. Even when the prosecutor objected, "No, I'm let everybody have their moment." But when it's time to stop, you have to be in control of your mouth.
You have a mouthpiece.
Okay. Thank you. Again, uh anger management group, you'll provide evidence that you've completed that to the probation officer. Uh, and check the wrong thing. You'll provide evidence of your employment. Uh, there's a $30 per month oversight fee for each month of probation.
That's $360.
$75 crime victim rights fee, $50 state minimum cost. I'll wave discretionary fines and cost at this time. Any additional matters for the record?
Nothing on behalf of people.
>> No, you're Thank you.
>> You're all set. Thank you.
>> Jared Burke Alter.
>> Jared Blake Burkalter 26G710 629 Edward Zelak on behalf of defendant.
Give your name sir Jar. Judge before you take the plea I have to advise the court justice. It's only fair that he's the stepson of Victor Martin who everybody in the court knows.
>> I knew his dad there.
>> I know.
>> I liked his dad.
>> I just want to hear this case. Do you?
No.
>> I liked his dad a lot, Cecil. He was a good man.
>> Now, it's not going to help you here.
>> No.
>> If anything, I'm more disappointed.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Don't be doing stupid things. You've been in front of me once the fourth or something.
>> Steaming.
>> All right.
>> Sh your lawyer then, too. So, so no, that's fine. Uh, >> your honor, >> you can't be doing this, though. Okay. I don't want you coming back in front of me after this case. You got it.
>> That's right.
>> All right. So, we have here a super drunk charge and then we have an owy charge. He stands mute. We already covered this, but he's going to stand mute and wait formal reading on both, right?
>> Yes, your honor.
>> And then I'm going to dismiss the OY.
I'm going to dismiss the super drunk.
He's pleading to operating while impaired. And then it says, "Oh, I see okay with offer." I hate when they start telling me what to do, though. 18 to 24 months probation, no early release, whatever that means. I can't agree to that.
>> It's only a recommendation.
>> I hate when they do that. Why are they putting this stuff on here? No early release. The statute says I have to give him early release.
>> That's fine.
>> Is this Ms. Earl?
>> Sorry, what?
>> This is Ms. Amaro that wrote this up.
her in shin asked her to give some strange conditions in order to reduce it to an impaired there policies that take it down from driving.
>> I I don't like >> it's only a recommendation.
>> I he doesn't have a problem with it judging blood came back at 125 was a blood draw and there's some give and take.
>> I'm not saying it isn't justified. Ben was saying I don't like them writing this garbage on here because they're not the judge and they're telling me not to give early release and the statute requires I do that. So I'll call her in.
I'm going to make sure it's a recommendation. We'll go from there. If you plead guilty to operating while impaired, possible penalties are up to 300 fines, 93 days jail, 360 hours community service court costs are all four points will be added to your record. Your license would be suspended or revoked in accordance with your record. Do you understand that?
>> You understand that? Right. Let's go.
>> Also, your vehicle could be or might have to be immobilized depending upon your record. Do you understand that?
>> All right. Council, your appearance, please.
>> Shave.
>> I just want to make sure that this is just a recommendation. You're not This is not part of a sense agreement.
>> Yes, ma'am. I know they are recommendations, >> but also when you write no early release, you realize that's contrary to the statute, right?
>> I understand. cuz either by law it doesn't matter. He's entitled to uh be discharged after half the time, right?
>> So, so you're just writing this down.
So, you >> Oh, good enough. Good enough. Would you just write recommendations only? Sir, you understand all your rights?
>> Yes, sir.
>> You understand you plead guilty? You're going to be giving up all those rights or we're not going to have a hearing or a trial?
>> Yes, your honor.
>> All right. You have any questions?
>> I do not. to the charge operating while visibly impaired. How do you plead?
>> Were you operating a motor vehicle in >> city of Gibralar, County of Wayne on February 28 to 26?
>> Yes.
>> And did you drink alcohol prior to that?
And what did you drink and how much if you did?
>> Yes. Uh beers, a couple shots.
>> How many beers?
>> 26 beers. Two shots. Three shots.
>> How big were the shots?
It was uh I was celebrating a birthday so well shots.
>> All right. And was your ability to operate that motor vehicle impaired due to the consumption of the alcohol? And if so, in what way?
>> Yes. And uh let me ask him some questions because these young men tried to. By the way, I want to thank you prosecutor because I put that in as a part of the negotiation pressure on the prosecutor's office and that's why that recommendation was added. Sir, you were told by the officer when he pulled you over that you have a loud truck and he clocked you for speeding. Is that correct?
>> Yes.
>> And you believe that was due to the consumption of alcohol?
>> Yes.
>> All right. You're not trying to excuse it by saying your truck was louder than the other ones you built up how fast you're going.
>> All right, Judge. And the blood draw was 25.
>> Can you stipulate that that was an accurate reading?
>> Yes, your honor. And you agree that the police department has been very generous to you in this man?
>> Yes. All right. Thank you. Are you on probation or parole right now?
>> No, you're not.
>> Anybody force you to plead guilty?
>> No, your honor.
>> What is he doing with his life?
>> Private, your honor.
>> He doesn't have a CD.
>> I'm going to accept your plea. Operating will imper dismiss the super drunk in the OI.
>> I I'll tell you, this is too high for me. He's 23 years old. He just turned 23. He's going to be on a sober link for a while. I'm going to give him a personal bond of $1,000.
You cannot leave the state without the consent of the court. You cannot violate a law. You must appear on in court as direct. No alcohol, no marijuana, no illegal drugs. We're going to give you a form. I want you go a at least three times a week and you're to be on a Soberlink device by the end of the day.
Do you understand that?
>> It's a machine you're going to have to blow into. So, do not be consuming alcohol. You do that, you're not going to get along well with him. You got it.
>> I said, >> "Judge, can I offer one redeeming quality that disappointed not only his stepfather, his family, but the police department a few weeks earlier, he had gotten an accommodation called her for rescuing someone drowning in the Detroit River in the channel and they gave him a big proclamation and this happened in Detroit.
>> I'm not surprised. I mean, I knew I thought his dad was a great guy, but you cannot be doing this stuff."
>> You got it.
All right. We'll wait for the sentencing.
>> All right. So, we're going to give you a sentencing date. What date do we have, Lisa?
>> August 4th at 8:30.
>> That's >> I'll be here.
>> That's the last one I set with you. So, you're going to be screened and assessed. They're going to tell you how to go about getting the Soberlink device. He's going to hand you an A form. Every time you go, you have to have that form signed. And every time you come to court, you have to bring the form with you. Okay.
>> Let's straighten this out before it gets worse. Good luck. Thank you.
>> Thank you, brother. Have a good day.
Good luck.
>> Judge, we still have another exam that the attorney hasn't checked in for >> that. Who hasn't?
>> The attorneys.
>> What exam is that?
>> Lisa, do we have another exam?
>> Butler.
>> Yeah. Which one are you looking at?
>> Butler.
>> Butler.
>> Judge. That's the one I was asking about dogs. I don't have my witnesses present.
I tried to follow him to see if you could just zoom in just so I can even move forward on it. Um I couldn't get a hold of him failed. I tried about two or three times.
>> Are you sure that was Quinton Docs? I think it was somebody besides >> I've seen him many many times.
>> I thought that he got I thought somebody came on one of the cases for him. Do you have the file?
>> I can grab it.
>> Please.
>> Do I need to call him or is he here?
>> She's checking on the file. Are we sure it's Docs? Yes.
>> Yeah. Call him. I think I mean >> the last time we were here you held a competency and then we moved it to exam.
>> Yeah. Please call him. Is it Mr. >> Yeah.
Time was that scheduled?
>> Absolutely.
>> 10:45.
>> What is going on with some of these people?
Can I see the file?
>> Yeah. Call them up, would you, please?
Yeah, call him. Lisa, where's the defendant at?
>> He's locked up be anger.
>> This is >> judge. He said he's on his Sorry. He said he's on his way. He's at Sibly Road.
>> I know, but it's scheduled for 10:45. I mean, come on. Jeez. All right. Charles Edwards 2672544.
>> And good afternoon, your honor.
B83.
>> Good morning or good afternoon, your honor. Little sister girl the neighbor defender service 6432 appearing on behalf of Charles siege who stands to my right say your name >> siege >> all right today's the day scheduled for preliminary examination we have a multiple count felony can't see it seven it looks like seven counts with habitual second uh possession with intent to deliver 50 grams or more but less than 450 of cocaine uh possession of ammunition by person possession possession of a firearm by prohibited person CCW felony firearm three counts of felony firearm any preliminary matters that you have >> preliminary matter was proposed exhibit number one which is going to be search of the register of actions that show the defendant was sent on crime involved ass on December 11 2008 and I did show this copy to defense council as well >> any objection >> no objection >> people's war is admitted sir you can have a seat I'm >> sure can be. And I I want her to mark those though with her initials. And >> I can rip it off.
>> That's okay.
>> Some court landed for us to mark them.
So I apologize.
Who's got your ar >> detective? Your name, please.
>> Good afternoon.
>> It is afternoon.
>> What was your name?
>> Detective Broke Mark 18.
All right. So, we've had that admitted.
Any other preliminary matters, Mrs. Gman?
>> Any other preliminary matters, Mr. Sig?
>> Just a mutual order of sequestration.
Judge, >> all witnesses with the exception of the officer in charge and the defendant are to leave the courtroom. I'm not keeping you up, am I Mr. Zuch? Why don't you sit up a loop?
>> Um, and your honor, there are for the record, there are two individuals in the courtroom. One is Mr. Sich's uh father and the other is his girlfriend. neither were present um at the time of this incident. Uh if this were to pro proceed to trial um I would not intend on calling them as witnesses. I don't believe the prosecutor would end either but >> then they can remain in the court.
>> Thank you. Judge, I did also want to mention that the officer in charge who was a speech mouth executive is also going to witness in this case.
>> The three witnesses in this case.
>> Okay, go ahead.
Call your first one.
>> Officer, follow.
>> Come on up here, officer. Please raise your right hand. You soundly swear affirm. You soundly swear affirm under penalties of perjury that the testimony you'll give in these proceedings should be the whole truth up you got.
>> Yes, I did.
>> Could you spell your name for my reporter, please?
>> I k to t o l l i v.
>> Thank you. You may proceed. Thank your honor officer.
>> Hello officer. Could you tell us where you're employed?
>> The Brownstone Police Department.
>> What is he doing?
>> I'm a police officer.
>> And how long have you been an officer?
>> Approximately 9 years.
>> And were you employed as an officer on March 16th, 125?
>> I at some point did your DVC5?
>> I think he did. Is that >> inser?
>> No, the the zip code can sometimes come out but it's chart.
>> Okay, I understand. Uh what's this area?
>> What's that imperial?
>> Yeah, what's in that area? We do have that area.
>> Travis and where's the travel south? on Silly Road over I75.
>> Okay. And then what was the traffic stop for?
>> It was for the vehicle that was stopped.
The initial traffic stop was for the vehicle driving left of center crossing yellow.
>> Okay. And this where you initially saw the vehicle. Where's the initially saw?
only to the Palestinian American breakfast company.
>> Okay. What was it you were doing?
>> I was conducting surveillance of the mottown for short stage traffic.
>> Why were you conducting surveillance on that hotel?
>> At the time I was part of the CSU unit community with a focus on narcotic and bull.
>> Okay. And did you observe you say that you observe this? vehicle previously at this motel >> prior to the date you given >> on the same day uh March 16th 2025 did you see this vehicle?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. And you saw in that motel?
>> Yes.
>> What did you see that vehicle doing?
>> That vehicle pulled in and it stayed for approximately 3 minutes and then left which would be considered short state traffic which is indicative to possible sales and purchases.
>> Okay. And then you said at some point you can never go to traffic stop. How long did it take for you to get to traffic after seeing you at the motel before the motel?
>> Approximately 2 to 3 minutes.
>> And then after the travel stop as the vehic stopped?
>> Yes.
>> And you?
>> Yes.
>> And how many was born in April?
>> June.
>> And would you recognize any of the places that you saw was it?
>> Yes. Could you take a look around the port and point out an identified leading shirt and bleeding pants under the foot is identified mysterious seat.
I believe >> the record should still reflect.
>> Thank you. And what happened while approaching the driver's side?
I made my initial contact to gain identification of the driver and officer Walker in Waterorth arrived at my stop.
>> Okay. Were they called to your stop or did they just arrive?
>> They arrived as backup secondary officers.
>> Okay. And um did did you make a call for them?
>> No.
>> Okay. Um so after these officers arrived, what do you happen?
Um, I gained the driver's license and a verbal identification of the pass front passenger unit. Um, and while I was checking their the driving status of the driver and the identification of the passenger through dispatch, officer Walker utilized his can partner for ultimate study.
>> Okay. Can we provide information from officer Walker? Otherwise he he advised me that his judge judge was not going to serve but listen information based on information conduct an investigation or does something else based on that judge. So my response would be this that he can testify to what he did after having a conversation with >> I'll sustain the objection strike that portion the testimony. May you raise your question.
>> Thank you very much. And based on the information you were providing, my officer is at Walker. What did you do?
>> Uh well, I got the female passenger out after officer Walker secured his PN partner and then Officer Walker got blind.
>> Okay. And then what happened about >> um Officer Walker observed similar kind.
So they would object to any observations that officer Walker made or that he only testified to his observations.
>> Same.
>> Uh did you personally did the plain view? Did I >> once I conducted the inventory search?
>> Was there was the inventory search or why were you not in search?
because Austin law had already placed the driver in custody based on his offic uh and I had the female passive for I asked her if she hadn't been illegal on person she said no but quickly recanted any statements made by as she stated no to this nose having narcotics Father, >> did she make any incriminating statements about the defendant?
About Mr. Zouch?
>> I do not recall.
>> Okay, I'm going to overlook.
>> Go ahead and finish your answer.
>> Was it the passenger dead?
>> She provided me with a small bag of suspect narcotics that she moved from her.
>> And then um was that individual placed under arrest?
>> She was immediately placed under arrest at that time. And so do you you say you conducted a leary search?
>> Yes.
>> Were you the only officer conducting the search?
>> No officer wanted her assistant.
>> Okay. Did you recover anything?
>> I did. I recovered a large suspected narcotics from the driver side for board. That was an assault case.
Two spoons with narcotic residency on.
um a loaded firearm that was cut between the driver's seat instead of console.
>> How did you know the firearm?
>> I needed once I destroyed the firearm, I need it safe from the chain.
>> Was that firearm place?
>> Yes.
>> You stated that it's not on the driver's side. What was it?
>> The driver's seat instead of >> Okay. And um you also state that you discovered uh suspected narcotics from the floorboard.
Could you tell us what that was packaged? Do you recall >> the what it looked like?
Suspected narcotics means a light break that was placed hidden in a black shot bag that was also placed in a soft case on.
>> Okay. And what is it? What else did you record in this vehicle?
>> There was a blue cylinder hanging from the steering column that contains suspected narcotics. There was a baggie in the driver's mat pocket driver's door mat pocket that contains suspected narcotics. There were shotgun shells in the center of the console.
Uh I would accompany several cell phones throughout the vehicle. Also additional mouse suspect narcotics that were in flush bag in the back seat was located.
>> It was also additional round ammunition and loaded the magazine out.
>> Was this all the items that you were cover?
>> Yes. Do you all of you recover anything else or saw anything else?
>> There was also items removed from the infinities of the driver's personal that was taken from officer.
>> Do you any other item still in the vehicle or seen in the vehicle?
>> All the time.
>> Okay. Would you would it refresh your recollection being reported?
>> Possibly.
Mayor >> May report it to yourself please.
>> Mr. D, you're late.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Do you also find that? I also discovered uh a female's ID and social security card did not belong to the female passenger.
>> And then you stated earlier that you were part of a narcotics team at that point.
>> It was a community support unit is what we call it with a focus on narcotics.
Question.
>> How long were you in that um the community that specific section? It was only that unit was only active for approximately three months.
>> Okay. Do you have any training experience in my class?
>> I've been to all school narcotics training in visiting classes such as business snow and then throughout my 9 years of all global patrol as a police officer alcohol several narcotic arrests. So instance bing suspected narcotics. Oh man, you stated earlier that you found um two cell phones, multiple cell phones.
>> Yes.
>> And how many cells they found?
>> At least four.
>> Okay. And um do you know who does it belong to? There were two individuals in the vehicle. Do you know who they belong to?
>> I assume they belong to >> I would speculation >> sustain.
You stated that you narrable phone >> narotic settings.
>> Okay. Was there anything else in that vehicle that would indicate this as well?
>> There was also two digital scales that were discovered in >> and then um following that did you do anything else in this investigation?
Once all the evidence was collected from the vehicle and the tour was completed and the vehicle was from the scene by Marcus Tony.
I transported all the evidence back to the station where it was cataloged and photographed and posted evidence.
The text was notified. Nothing.
>> Officer, you indicated that the first time that you observed this vehicle was in the motel parking lot. Is that right?
>> Pulling into the motel.
>> Okay. And you indicated that it stayed for 3 minutes.
>> You um indicated or I guess you you did not indicate whether anyone came up to that vehicle, right? Right?
>> Meaning you didn't see anyone leave the vehicle, >> correct?
>> And you didn't see any hand transactions with that vehicle.
>> But you followed that vehicle once it left the location, right?
>> I did.
>> Okay.
>> And prior to that, you were not familiar with this vehicle, were you?
>> Or the occupants that were in this vehicle?
>> But you followed it because you suspected that it was involved in some type of narcotics.
>> Yes.
Um, when you followed that vehicle in observing it, you seen that it crossed over a double yellow line. Is that what you indicated?
>> Yes.
>> What crossed over the wheel?
>> The vehicle.
>> The the whole vehicle.
>> Our whole arc vehicle.
>> What part of the vehicle?
>> The driver's side.
>> The driver side. So, the entire driver's side asked over this yellow line.
>> Yes. Not the entire loosened the cross over the double yellow.
>> Would the tires have to or have the tires crossed over the double yellow?
>> Yes, the driver side tires.
>> Understood. So both tires. So the front left and the front the back left crossed over this line. All right. Understood.
Um and so you conducted a traffic stop because of this observation, right?
But you conducted this likely because it was a pre-taxual stop. Would you agree with that?
>> I would say it was a pre-taxing stop.
>> I don't think he's already been a judge.
I'm asking him your reason behind why he stopped.
>> I think you need to rephrase. I'm going to sustain the judge. You can rephrase if you want.
>> Understood. Um, so I guess just to backtrack, you followed it because you were suspicious of the people, right?
>> Correct.
>> But you didn't observe anything at the motel that would lead you to conduct traffic stop.
That's why you follow people.
>> You're you're going to have to keep your voice up a little bit. Okay.
>> Sure.
>> And so this observation of crossing the double yellow allowed you to conduct a traffic stop. Is that right?
>> Yes.
>> Understood. Now, you uh were driving a scout car at that point. Is that right?
>> No.
>> No. What were you driving?
>> An unmarred police buff on visit.
>> An unmarked. But you yourself had uniform on. Is that right?
>> I had I was in plain clothes, but I had my police last time.
>> Understood. So, did your vehicle was your vehicle equipped with a dash cam off?
>> No.
>> No. All right. So, you don't have anything to show that this vehicle actually crossed over the vehicle.
>> When you approached, you indicated the reason as to why you stopped, right?
>> Yes.
>> And then the dogs happened. Correct.
>> Yes.
>> And this led to a inventory search um for recovered narcotics. Correct.
>> Yes. And the uh driver was arrested because of observations not only by you but officer Walker, right?
>> Yes.
>> But you never wrote a ticket to Mr. SE for crossing over Doug yellow line.
Would you agree with that?
>> Correct.
>> And you uh towed the car. You processed an inbound slip for this car. Correct.
>> Slip. I do not recall its own volume. So we decided >> you didn't process that then I >> don't give you ball.
>> Understood. I know the >> redirect you incidents like this possible felony charges. We may vow to hold our ambitions until >> I would object to that as say what I would do by someone else besides find something else someone would also say that he specify as why he did it.
>> Yeah, I'm going to overrule the objection.
>> Oh, you said it because of the policy or something you told. We've been advised by our detective bureau and our our supervisors when we put cases involving possible felony charges is to hold off on issue named citations until told otherwise by an OIC.
>> Okay. Nothing. Thank you.
>> Anything else, Mr. Barry? I follow.
>> Thank you. You can step down, sir. Call your next witness.
>> All right. You can come on right up here, officer.
Let me ask you to raise your right hand.
You soundly swore affirmative penalties of perjury that the testimony you give in these proceedings will be the whole truth. So I help you God.
>> I do.
>> Okay. Have a seat please. You may proceed.
>> Thank you. Good afternoon officer.
>> Go ahead.
>> Ground police department.
>> What are you police department?
>> I'm a K9 patrol officer.
>> How long have you been an officer for?
>> How long have you been with K9? status September 2023, 2025.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. And uh going through you stated, but what kind of training and experience do you need in certifications?
>> Initially, it's a threemonth academy process um before the dog is certified and we have to pass the certification test after that 3-month process um before you were certified to use the dog on the road. Um, from there I attend training eight hours every Wednesday.
>> Okay. And um, are you certified?
>> Yes.
>> And who's your who's your partner?
>> B.
>> And was being with you on March 16th, 2025?
>> Yes.
>> And your sibling?
>> Yes.
>> Is that going to be lame?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. And what were you doing in that area? I was assisting officer Palib.
>> Okay.
>> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Would you recommend any saw today?
>> Yes.
point out.
>> Uh the male seated right there in the green record should still reflect.
>> What was this individual reference?
>> You state that you arrived with your dog Bane. Is that >> Yes.
>> And what did you do in Bane?
>> I conducted an open air sniff of the vehicle at Officer To.
>> Okay.
>> Was you say Officer Topper was present?
Yes. Do you recall what he was doing when you made >> when I arrived? He was still at the window of the vehicle making initial contact with the driver.
>> How long did it take for you to ride on?
>> Less than two minutes.
>> And you stated um that you did an open air.
>> Yes.
>> I took my canon partner to the front passenger bunker of the vehicle. Um, from there we what I do, we hook him up to a different collar. He knows that when I change his collar that it's a narcotic collar. I hooked him up to that. I saw him find. We ran around the car in counterclockwise direction. Um, and then on the driver's door seam, he scratched and bit at the door, which is a positive indication for darotic motor.
Uh he is an aggressive vindication and he is trying to scratch or bite that motor.
>> Okay. And you say he did that the driver side?
>> Yes. See >> were do you know were the passengers when the vehicles killed or were they outside vehicle?
>> Inside the vehicle.
>> How many individuals were on the vehicle?
>> Okay. And uh what did you do after there was an indiction?
>> I placed my can back to my vehicle. uh went back up to the defendant's vehicle.
Um officer Toiver got the passenger held while I got the defendant seat right there off the vehicle. I asked him if I can pat him off the weapons. He's located a small knife as a pocket.
>> Did Mr. P?
>> Yes.
>> Did you observe anything when Mr. Ced?
>> Yes. What did you observe? I observed a bag of what I suspected to be a clear plastic bag of white powdery substance and the um mad pocket of the driver's door while I was packing it on.
>> Okay. Um what did you do with that bag?
>> I left.
>> And was there a search on the vehicle?
>> Yes.
>> Did you see the search?
>> Yes.
>> Who who served the vehicle?
>> Officer Tom.
And did you u left off a while?
>> Yes.
>> And did you recover anything personally in?
>> Yes.
>> What did you recover?
>> Uh off the defendant a clear blast body by suspected for smoking narcotics as well as a rock that I suspected to be cracked cocaine pushing. But I asked the defendant what is this? He said was dope. Uh, I secured that and then while assisting in the search of the vehicle, I located a magazine with magazine for a handgun with 9 mm ammunition.
>> Um, was Mr. Siege placed under arrest?
>> Yes.
>> When was he placed under arrest? when I steered him with handcuffs when uh after I patted the mount of weapons when I observed what I suspect to be narcotics and pass him with Matt Hawk is when I secured the handcuffs behind the back and placed him in my shoulder.
>> Okay. Was he placed was he uh detained or placed the arrest at that point?
>> Place and then did you do anything else in this case?
>> Uh transported the defendant to the facility for processing.
Crops officer, you arrived on scene. You indicated less than 2 minutes after um officer. Is that right?
>> Yes.
>> How were you notified? Uh office traffic stop.
>> I believe via phone.
>> Okay. Did Did officer contact you?
>> Yes, >> he did.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. and he requested your assistance in this traffic sign.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. There was a suspicion that this car was involved in nar, right?
>> Yes.
>> That's why balls.
>> Yes.
>> And when you got there, um, you at some point you had your dog, right?
>> Yes.
>> And the dog circled and gave an indication of positive narives, right?
>> Yes. Now, how long has this dog been um in this field? I guess >> uh two and a half years.
>> Okay. And has the dog um gave a false alert?
>> I wouldn't know that. There's been Can I elaborate?
>> There's been instances where the dog gives a positive indication for narcotic murder. We don't have anything during the search. I cannot confirm that. That would be what I would call a false alert. Uh, our dogs perfect? No, absolutely not. They're like kittens as well. So, but I can't say that it's false if that makes sense.
>> Understood. So, he the dog may alert and something basically. Understood. Now, in this situation, he um scratched and bit at the door. Is that Yes.
>> Yes.
>> That was at the driver's side.
>> Yes.
>> But narcotics were found in other areas of the car. Would that would you agree with that?
I don't know. I didn't conduct the search of the vehicle other than the drone.
>> So, you were just present when the narcotics were recovered from the past or from the driver's side.
>> Yes.
>> You were not aware of anything that occur on the passenger side.
>> Right.
>> Understood.
>> The dog did not alert the passenger side though. Right. Right.
>> Now, when he uh the um Mr. seat was removed from the driver's side um and placed in handcuffs prior to the observation of what he observed in the door. He was not under arrest at that point. Would you agree with me?
>> Give me a brief.
>> Yes. So you had indicated that when you observed the narcotics, the first time that you observed the narcotics was when you were placing them in handcuffs. Is that right?
>> No.
>> No. When did you first observe the box?
>> Well, I was patting the alpha wires and then he might pathic.
>> Okay. So when you were patting him down, was he under arrest at that point?
>> No.
>> Understood. So he was just being detained.
>> Great.
>> Okay. Then once you observed the narcotics, that is when the determination was that he was going to be arrested.
Um, as it related to the um, firearm, you had indicated that you found a loaded magazine in the trunk of the car.
>> Yes.
>> So, you participated in some uh, of the search of this vehicle.
>> Yes.
>> Did you conduct or did you prepare the toe slip for the toe company?
>> I don't recall.
>> Understood. So, but you you wouldn't be the one that did that then? I I do sometimes but I hope to qualify in this case.
>> Understood. Um I have no further questions.
>> Any other questions >> briefly and officer will predict any name on any other vehicle?
>> Okay.
>> You can step down, sir. Thank you. Call your next witness.
>> Thank you.
>> Thank you. Have a good day.
>> All right, detective. You can come on up here.
Raise your right hand. You soundly swear affirmative or penalties of perjury. The testimony you'll give in these proceedings would be the whole true self you got.
>> Yes, sir.
>> All right. Have a seat, please.
>> Thank you, honor. And good afternoon, detective.
>> Good afternoon, detective. Could you tell us where you're employed?
>> Yep. I'm currently employed by the employment police department assigned to the Michigan State Police Metro Enforcement Team which is a part of a multi-jurisdictional task force.
>> How long have you been an officer board?
>> Uh three and a half years and two years with American team.
>> Okay. Were you put capacity on March 16th?
>> Yes, I was.
>> And at some point did I go in case Charles siege?
>> Yes, I did ma'am. Um, I was notified by Browntown Police Department due to the quantity of narcotics seized um that uh somebody that's full-time in narcotics with extensive training experience uh should become involved. Um at that point I was contacted to run the case and conduct an interview with the defendant.
>> You say this?
>> Yes, I am.
>> And what did you feel as policy in this case?
>> Uh essentially I come to the police department. I had a conversation with uh the arrestee um where uh we we discussed uh the case and what happened and then I obtained the narcotics um get field test done to the lab um and then just kind of conduct a smooth process.
>> Okay. Would you recognize the individual what you saw today?
>> Yes, I would.
>> Could you take a look around point identifying that individual?
>> Yes, ma'am. He said I'm the seat at the defense table wearing open.
>> The records should still reflect.
>> Your honor, you stated that you have a lot of experience in narcotics. What is your experience?
>> Yes, ma'am. Um I conducted uh for my assignment to Metro Archives enforcement team over 150 uh controlled substance incidents in US uh just out of control which was uh the focus of my duties um which led into my assignment to Metro Enforcement Team where I conduct u numerous multi-state um multiaceted narcotic investigations on large scale streets. Uh my training includes uh fully training in narcotics training from the Michigan State Police or the government narcotic school. Um, Desert Snow Narcotics and Addiction School. Um, complex narcotics investigations in Florida. Um, just a long plethora of master narcotics investigation by street cop training.
Uh, a long list of narcotics based investigation schools.
>> And are you familiar with um, indicators of narcotics sale and distribution?
>> Yes, I am. What are they given you?
>> Um, a lot of times what we're looking for is a advanced team is scales, bags, multiple packages, over 100 grams of dope um or cocaine, fentanyl, whatever the the controlled substance may be.
Typically, these are indicators of a high level narcotic distributor rather than uh you know a user lower level.
>> Okay. And you did have a conversation on each.
>> Yes, I did.
>> Where did that conversation take place?
Browndale Police Department has an interview room within a booking area or their jail area. That's where the interview was.
>> Okay. Do you know Mr. C was Miranda?
>> Yes, he was.
>> How was Miranda?
>> Uh I read Mr. SE's uh Miranda writes directly from a UD52 form which is uh by the Michigan State Police is their Miranda rights are essential.
>> And did Mr. understand his rights?
>> Yes, he did.
>> I was like he understands. He verbally explained or verbally stated yes when I asked him if he explained what I had like June.
>> Did Mr. Cer appear to be under the influence of anything all drugs or anything else?
>> No.
>> And did he provide a statement?
>> Yes.
>> And what is it that you guys talked about?
>> I'm talking about narcotics where the narcotics came from u the amount seized.
Um Mr. Siege informed me that he was indeed possessing narcotics. uh what he estimated to be 9 ounces of cocaine uh when he was in contact with the Brown Sound Police Department uh in addition to >> what is 9 ounces?
>> 9 oz of approximately 250 g 252 g to be exact. Um which did check out with the large bowl cocaine from my observation of the reports um and my observation of the evidence uh right around that range.
Uh the large drink of cocaine that was seized from underneath the driver's seat was approximately 240 245 grams which is in the same ballpark. Mr. >> Yes, he did. Mr. S stated that he uh is a narotic distributor. Uh he sells approximately 9 to 18 ounces of cocaine per week. Um which includes the manufacturing of cocaine into crack cocaine.
>> Okay.
>> And did you speak with about anything else?
>> Yes, I did. Um I asked Mr. about the firearm located inside of the gole. Um Mr. SE stated he does keep firearm on him for the safety but um what conducts.
>> Okay. And then regarding the stop being was that hard of a conversation?
>> Yes it was. Uh Mr. S stated after Palace Motel he felt tired. Um he did admit to crossing the center line which was the reason for the traffic stop. Um he just told me that he was sleepy at that time um and kind of lost focus while driving the vehicle.
>> Okay. And then did you and Mr. S speak about anything else?
>> Uh no, just uh at that point we ended up uh ending the conversation. Um the conversation was audio recorded and upload as evidence.
>> And then what else have any of this case?
>> Uh I obtained evidence. Uh, I did a preliminary field test on the suspected narcotics to confirm that they were indeed narcotics. I use a searchy cocaine IV swipe. Um, which is a pink swipe. Um, once you place it onto a substance you believe to be cocaine, will turn blue if the substance does indeed contain cocaine. I conduct that office after obtaining evidence.
>> Who the suspected non weight?
>> Uh, I want to say I just know just over 240 gram. I'd have to review a more page of the exact number, but um but that was the large brick. There were multiple other small individually packaged bags that was seized um inside of the car um at this point without uh they all appeared to be cocaine. I just test the one for redundancy and the rest of them was the indication was when we did test >> positive for cocaine >> and you stated that they were sent to the lab.
>> Yep, they were sent to the lab. Um, they should be returned in the next couple weeks.
>> Okay. And then did you look there for this wheel analysis?
>> Yep. There's a preliminary field test analysis form that I fill out to show what test kit I used, the weight, and what the result of the test was. Um, I did complete that um and uh had it uploaded and passed along to you guys.
>> You recognize the phone if you saw today.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Your honor may first. Amen.
>> It's not marous people's proposals exhibit numbers. We'll leave number two.
Uh I'll leave the ver.
>> Do you recognize that weird?
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> What is it that I could do?
>> This is the preliminary field test analysis form I was talking about.
>> Is this the field analysis test done um regarding this case?
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Okay. Does it appear to be an accurate depiction of the results?
>> Yes, ma'am.
to be changed or in any sort of way.
>> No.
>> Any objection?
>> Judge understanding of you know rules governing examinations. I do not have an objection. Um as >> two was admitted and what was the indication on that report?
>> Positive for cocaine.
>> And was the weight placed on there?
>> Yes ma'am.
>> What was the weight?
>> 244.3 g.
>> Did you do anything else on investigating this case? Uh no at this time I just send the uh the rest of the narcotics to the left and that's nothing but >> any questions >> just um detective you indicated that Mr. SE um had said that he crossed the W line during the interview. Is that right?
>> Yes.
>> But actually the question posed was do you know when he was stopped and that's when he indicated because I crossed W line. Do you agree with me on that?
>> Uh I don't recall the exact uh verbiage that was said by Mr. SEC. I just recall him stating that across the uh deadlines.
>> And you would agree with me that upon your review of the evidence, the officer informed him of the reason why he saw correct?
>> I'm not sure if the officer informed uh I can't speak to what Mr. Toiver or Mr. W said. I apologize.
>> But you did review the um evidence in this case, correct? Yes, the evidence didn't tell me what the officer said. I just didn't review every second of the body cam. I'm more concerned with the seized narcotics um things of that nature.
>> Understood. So, you didn't watch then you're indicating to us today that you did not watch officers officer Oliver's body cam footage when he first approached the army.
>> Stand up for the questions.
>> Anything else?
>> You can step down. Thank you. Call your next witness.
defense isn't following this judge.
>> People move to bind over. You agree this is a pack question, correct?
>> Judge, actually, if I can just make a brief argument for the record.
>> Okay.
>> Uh your honor, so I would argue that um this was a pretextual stop and I understand that pretextual stops are not legal that they're um allowed if they have suspicions of something to conduct a traffic stop. But in order for a traffic stop to be conducted, there has to be reasonable suspicion. And there has to be a reason as to why they are allowed to induct a trap to be lawful.
Here officer Toiver is alleging that the reason why he saw this vehicle was because it crossed over a jungle yellow line. However, he has nothing to support that. There is no dash cam to capture whether this vehicle actually conducted this traffic stop that would allow them to have this um interaction that they did involving a doll smith and inventory search and everything that followed. Um, additionally, this court has to assess credibility under people v. Anderson.
And in this situation, I think that we have to consider the credibility of officer. I asked or actually the prosecutor may have asked officer to caliber, did you contact the kine officer? Did you contact officer Walker?
He said no, he didn't. They just showed up. However, when we asked officer Walker on the stand, how did you how did you arrive on scene? He said he got a phone call. And I asked him, "Did officer Holliver call you?" And he said, "Yes." So here we are having one officer discredit another officer and that officer, that's very important in this situation because judge, we have to rely on that officer's testimony that Mr. Si actually crossed over a W line. That would be the basis for the SCA. If that was unlawful, then everything that follows should be suppressed as fruit of the poisonous tree. They have nothing to support that. And so for that reason, judge, I do think that this is a credibility issue. The court has to assess the credibility under people v.
Anderson and I would ask to this board to dismiss based on that reason.
>> Very good. More >> that's just a brief response. I believe the officer's credibility didn't be in question. In fact, he did state that these officers did arrive as bad. I don't believe that there was a misstatement by him. um would have had for an obligation under whether these individuals back up each other um in multiple stops. Can't really argue that the honor testified to >> Here's the facts though. Here's the facts that the officer testified that the defendant crossed the elbow.
There's even testimony that the defendant later admitted that and whether he has incar cameras or anything else to substantiate it is not the issue. The issue is whether or not there was he observed the defendant committing a civil infraction. I think it was pretty clear and I found it to be credible that he did in fact speak the defendant or observe the defendant committing a civil infraction. Therefore, the initial stop was proper. Everything that flowed with it was proper. I'm going to go ahead and bind the defendant over. I'm going to continue the 75,000 cash assurity. Bob, I'm going to give you August the I'm sorry, September the July the 28th, sir. At 9:00 in the morning, uh you'll be there at the criminal justice center. So, July 28th, all other bond conditions set are continued.
I wish you well. Good luck, Mr. Doss.
Come on.
No, we got to drive all the way down.
>> I'ming shitty [ __ ] all over the place.
>> Oh, this place.
>> Well, you showed up 2 hours late. If I didn't have these exam, you think I'm going to keep my staff and the prosecutor and the police to wait? Come on. Maybe you guys are taking too many cases. I mean, I I like you, but >> I I know, but you can't be showing up two hours late and then I got to chase you. It's 1 hour yet. Last week, they insured all all the cases for the weather. It's all bad.
>> Just tell me your parents.
>> Sorry. It's very good to ask >> your name.
>> So he was found competent to stand trial today. The date scheduled for exam. You ready to proceed?
>> This time people are unable to proceed with being sent to Robert and Kimberly. I did have Robert at some point judge when it was previously set for exam. Um however miss Kimberly Rashada did state that she had health issues or comment. motion for tested by that was denied by um these witnesses having multiple times previous exams have not showed up and I do also have I see you seated to my left who can also understand dismissed good luck thank you I'm going to make sure Lisa we take out the uh bond conditions there okay thank you uh Amy Lyn Thomas, can anybody hear me over there at the police department?
How you doing?
>> I'm well thanks. How about yourself?
>> Not too bad. Good morning, detective.
>> I got Miss Thomas. One second.
>> Okay, >> I'll bring her in.
>> All right, Miss Thomas, just stand on this red X right here and just make sure you speak loudly so that the judge can hear you. Okay.
Amy Thomas >> council your appearance.
>> Good morning your honor attorney Cory West hearing on behalf of Miss Thomas.
>> Is she staying away for more reading?
>> That's correct.
>> So where has she been for the last six years?
>> Yeah. She was incarcerated in OCJ about a year ago.
>> Yeah.
>> Sent in key >> and I and I uh must have responded. I don't not respond to these. Let me double check.
>> So she did. She thought this was their daughter.
>> Oh, I told them to send an arraignment pre-trial after July 18 of 25. And I said, "Send notice to jail, excuse me, independent's last address."
And that's what we did. And then she didn't show up.
Where are you making that assumption?
You think she >> I'm sure.
>> You don't like to show up, Miss Thomas.
>> That I never received it. If it was sent to the last address at file, it was the address that was on >> it was a D.
>> Slow down.
Let me talk.
You have 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 warrants is all. Well, congratulations.
You want to play games with courts, it's not going to work out well for you, ma'am. Ma'am, if I were you, I would stop on this uh little, >> you know, I didn't receive it type thing. Okay? Come on. Come on. I don't want to hear it. Tell some other judge in some other court in some other county or some other state that. I don't want to hear it.
Does she work?
>> I I don't >> She stands waves for a rating.
>> That's correct.
>> On both.
I hope she's got some money because I'm not going to put up with this nonsense.
>> You got to show up in court, ma'am. I don't know who you think you are. You cannot ignore courts all over this state like this. Okay. 4,10%.
I hope you can post. They'll let you make some calls.
>> Your court date will be on July the 30th. That's the earliest. Is that the earliest I can give her, uh, Lisa or >> uh, let me check.
Yeah, they're not here this Thursday because Judge Hess is off >> 10%. You're going to have to post that or you're going to be in custody for 9 days. Stop doing this. Okay? Stop doing this. And you have to show up on July the 30th at 9:30 in the morning. Even if you post, if you don't, it'll be 40,000 next time. Do we understand one another?
>> Yes.
>> You had enough uh correspondence from us. you knew to show up. And if I were you, I'd start going over to these other courts. Judges don't like this. Maybe someone are more understanding than I am. But I'd like to know who they You're going to stop this nonsense. You're going to learn a lesson if you don't stop. That's it. Good luck. Have a good day. Have her fill out a petition for a courtappointed detective. Please.
>> Thank your honor.
You're going to learn a lesson if you don't stop this nonsense.
My god.
I don't know what I did wrong, but I'm pretty sure I need to stop whatever it was.
I'm kind of scared.
My god, those were some classic glasses, though.
I'm telling you, I love those glasses. I I strategically had to choose her for the thumbnail because I like those glasses so much.
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for hanging out with me tonight. Thank you so much, Dobby. The JD conversation was fun. I appreciate it. We could talk about it more in Rhonda's Discord or something. And chat all around was amazing. Thank you everybody tonight.
Sometimes I feel like maybe it's better if I l more.
Let's do its thing and mama and Rhonda handle things.
Y'all need to hear me talking all the time. I just feature chat on the screen and move on to my day. Hey, that's how it goes. All right.
All right. That's up.
But I do have lots of people that I need to thank tonight. I believe most especially Marty Deval, Wendy Greek, Nina out of the blue, Natasha Kitty, C430 4301, Blind Will, Natasha Kitty. Thank you all so much. Miss Natasha Kitty, Miss Natasha Kitty, Miss Natasha Kitty, and I thank Dobby, too. Whoever Dobby is out there and Kieran and uh Diligaf Mama Felix. Oh, I got to thank of tonight is Felix. Felix said, "You have to check out this one case."
And um I went and checked it out and while I was checking out that one case, I I saw the other case right before it where the lady got taken away for being kind of silly, stupid. And I was like, "Hey, I know people want to watch this."
So that's where we are.
That's how we got Judge Simmons. And when he when when Felix told me about that one, I I had already had the uh Thank you so much, Blind Wills. The gold coin. I already had Judge Dad already put together at that point in time. So, it was just a matter of putting them together, bringing them all together as one, making them run consecutively, not concurrently to each other.
And that's how we got to tonight's 2hour extravaganza of legal interesting cases that are, for a lack of a better term, I I forgot what I was going to say. I I literally had it right here on my head.
See, it's happening to all of us people.
One by one, what can I say?
The music just plays.
Time moves on.
Oh, these are tales we can all learn from.
That's what I'm trying to say.
I don't know how I'm trying to say it, you know.
I'm your Lucille. I do these things every single night of the week, and some days are better than others. For now, I am out.
Cautionary tail. That's what I was trying to think of.
And remember, only you can take a bite out of crime.
Bye.
Did I mention I I I realized that it was cautionary tells that I was trying to think of?
Yeah, that's that's what it was.
So, that's all I have. This has been embarrassing enough.
Bye.
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