This video presents a debate between former Conservative minister Gillian Keegan and TUC representative Kate Bell about the UK Workers' Rights Act, where Keegan argues that new workers' rights legislation harms business confidence and economic growth, while Bell counters that such legislation addresses fundamental economic problems like low productivity, lack of worker investment, and workplace health issues that have held British business back for 14 years, with both sides presenting economic evidence to support their positions on how workers' rights legislation impacts the economy.
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>> I mean, I do think we need to tell the truth about what's happened to the economy. We had a decade of underinvestment. We had capital investment cut by the cut by the government. We had >> Okay, so super rich friend of the Saudis, friend of Donald Trump, and god knows how many other deplorable characters. Tony Blair just handed the Conservative Party and the right-wing media ecosystem a massive gift by publicly attacking Kama's government. So watch as former Tory Minister Jillian Keegan tries to use Blair's words to bash basic workers rights and lots of other great things that this Labor government have done only to get brutally dismantled over her own party's disastrous economic record. Let's watch >> what he says about that workers right act. You know that is the biggest upgrade in workers rights we've seen for a generation. And when we talked to workers, voters across the country, we pulled 4,000 people just after the local elections, they told us the big issue they're worried about, the big issue that's affecting how they vote is the cost of living. Sure. And that workers rights act is actually one of the interventions which is making a real difference to people's working lives.
It's just that according to him, the new workers rights laws and various other things are harming business and that is affecting business confidence and indeed growth and growth is the thing that we all know that increases people's living standards. Well, look, when Tony Blair brought in the minimum wage, we heard dire warnings then about how that was going to affect business and jobs. And we've heard exactly the same dire warnings about the employment rights act. I'm afraid they were wrong then those dire warnings and they are wrong now. We've done independent economic analysis that shows that workers rights act is going to have a net benefit to the economy. We know one of the fact one of the issues we faced in the UK is low productivity, a lack of investment by businesses in their workers, a lack of investment in training. You know, too many people getting sick at work. That's one of the things that is actually holding British business back. And that's one of the things this workers rights act out to change.
>> No, it's it's absolutely rubbish. They should get rid of it. It's right on that. Tony Blair is right on a lot of things actually that he's said. I I do find myself agreeing with a lot of it.
Um where he's wrong I think is I think it's sort of like closing the door after the horse is bolted because already that leadership contest they're outbidding each other to get further and further left because what he misses out in the whole analysis is it's the members of the Labour party that choose and they are going to choose the most left-winged one. So they've got two choices. either they pander to that and then change their mind and you know tell lies and change their mind completely which is what K star did or they don't and they won't get elected. So the big problem and it's more fundamental for our country is whoever tells the truth to the electorate about our country and the direction we're heading in and what really is going to get growth and it is businesses and the private sector that are the engine of the growth and that is how we'll afford the public services. If you put that wrong the cart before the horse then what will happen is we'll have rising youth unemployment we'll have lower jobs and literally you will not you will styy the investment in the economy which is what we've seen as well as an extra an exodus of entrepreneurs >> desperate to come back in >> I mean I do think we need to tell the truth about what's happened to the economy we had a decade of underinvestment we had capital investment cut by the cut by the government we had underinvestment we had underinvestment in our public services which we know had a bad effect on growth. We had deregula, we had deregulation and none of this none of this which we heard about deregulation, about cutting investment, about cutting public spending. What did we get? A decade, we got a decade of flatlining growth. We got the worst record on wage stagnation, which is one of the reasons why so many people across the country feel that they can't make their bills, they can't meet the cost of living, that their house prices are going up faster than their wages.
>> Can I put this to you, Kate Bell, if I may, and then I'll bring you back, Julian Keegan. I absolutely promise. I can see you're desperate to get in as well. Of course, >> in that part of the economy and that's the part of the economy that creates the wealth and the wealth is required to fund the public sector and that is something that is missed in the conversation.
>> Do you accept that that wealth is required to fund the public sector and and indeed Kstarma said before the 2024 election, growth is going to be the thing economic growth >> we are going to unleash that will pay for public services and we just haven't seen it, have we? Economic growth is an absolute priority and of course we've got that legacy of underinvestment.
We've got that policies sentence.
>> One of the things that we've welcomed is that industrial strategy from government which sets out a real clear priority for where growth in the economy can come from from the frontier sectors for the economy. Of course there are still big barriers in the way of businesses. You know trade unions talk to businesses every day. We talk to businesses every day. Those high energy costs which government has started to act on but action clearly not fast enough. We know that is still a huge issue for business >> action. Sorry. You were saying that Tony Blair has made a mistake in not understanding that the Labour party's on the left. Boy, he doesn't miss that point. He says the left are odds on to win the leadership contest. And he talks about how the Labour Party when it's in opposition has a perennial delusion to indulge the idea that when Labour lose seats to the right, the country is signaling it wants to move to the left.
Yeah.
>> He says it's one thing to do that in opposition. Dangerous to do it when you're in government. They're doing it now.
>> And they've had the wrong diagnosis since the moment they walked in. And this employment rights and other things they did taxing jobs, the first thing they did. The winter fuel allowance makes no money, gets no money back, but upsets everyone. Everything they've done has been instinctively wrong. And I think they're just going to make it worse and worse. Listen to W Streetin and Andy Bham and some of their flagship policies. All of which will have more of an exodus of entrepreneurs and and reduce investment in this country. And when the unemployment and youth unemployment is really worrying, it's the first thing that really is the canary in the coal mine. It's really worrying and you know they'll that that's what will happen and you can sit there with your workers rights bills with not many workers.
>> But to be fair, you didn't have workers rights legislation and you didn't have growth for 14 years really. You had poultry growth.
>> We have a pandemic. We did have to deal with the Brexit. be way before Brexit and the pandemic growth. I think it was I think it was about just under 2% when we left office and inflation was at 2%.
So it wasn't brilliant but it was better than where it is now and actually if you look at Richishy and Jeremy's plan for the economy you know they were steering us in the right direction and the plan for AI >> you out of Liz Truss's mess didn't stagnation for 200 years. This trust is is is was a disaster. And you know, I will say that I didn't vote for her and she was a disaster for our party's reputation. And the country will pay a price for that.
>> Honestly, it's really staggering to watch a former Conservative minister who served under the most economically destructive government in modern British history tried to position herself as the ultimate defender of economic growth.
Jillian Keegan thought she could use Blair's intervention as a shield. But what happened is she got confronted with 14 years of stagnant wages, chronic underinvestment and the L trust disaster which forced her entire argument into collapse. It's the conservative playbook in opposition. Ignore their own abysmal record, attack basic workers rights and hope the public simply forgets who crash the economy. And this is exactly what was predicted really. As soon as Labour got into government, 14 years of Tory disgrace would simply be transposed upon the Labor Party and everything would become their fault. And sadly, Labor have given them lots of ammunition with which to do this. Now, I do believe that the Labor government have done some good things. There's no doubt about that. But they've also done some things which are not so good. And as a consequence, the media will focus on all of those not so good things and ignore the good things.
And this is what Labor have failed to do in in in government in my opinion.
They've not communicated their successes well enough. And they haven't really understood who their enemy is. And they honestly thought, or I can only assume, they honestly thought that they would get a fair hearing from the British media, which is incredibly naive.
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