This analysis provides a sharp, data-driven look at United’s transition from reckless spending to strategic value acquisition. It effectively demonstrates how financial constraints are finally forcing the club toward a more disciplined and pragmatic recruitment strategy.
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Ederson Done? United Financial News. Baleba Price Issue? - Manchester United Transfer NewsAdded:
Yes. Yes. Hello everyone.
We're on this screen. How you doing today? We'll get back to that in just a second. How are we today? What is going on, my friends? It's been a busy uh day so far. It's been a busy day so far for United news as seemingly United are closing in on the first signing of the summer of many and it's almost a little bit of a repeat it feels of last summer where United soon as the season was over moved forward with closed in on and completed the purchase purchase of another Brazilian at United and brought into the club. So, similar kind of um patterns here for United. Clearly, they want to get that uh major, you know, significant signing in the door pretty quickly, get business going, get something on the books so that they have midfield options with, you know, Casemiro departing and obviously United not really having a lot of uh not having a lot of uh options in the midfield.
So, plenty plenty plenty to talk about today with regards to toerson. We'll cover kind of the news, the breakdowns, and and where it is at. Uh, we'll talk about the the signing in general. Um, I I can definitely say that the more I see people push against it, the more I feel like going the exact opposite direction and uh and being very positive on it.
Um, so we'll get kind of into that. Um, is Ederson a significant signing?
Absolutely. Absolutely. Let let me just give give you some some some facts here.
Okay.
At 35 million pounds, Ederson, 26 years old, Champions League experienced player, is probably one of the best value for money deals United have made in the last 10 years.
Now, I'm not really like trying to get into in that statement a debate about the qualities of the player and and this and that, but United have paid 50 million euros for Fred, less experienced back in 2020. We paid 50 million pounds for Juan Basaka. We paid 80 million pounds for Harry McGuire. We paid 55 million pounds for Mason Mount.
In terms of value compared to the experience level of the player, it's pretty damn good. The players that we've bought for less have almost all in every single case been younger project style players that do not have that level of experience. Uh, Dorgu went for a bit less. He had one season at Leche at Leche. It was a sale that was worth majority of their money. Um, yeah, Fred was 2018, excuse me. It was during the World Cup. Um, Dalow, we paid I don't know 40 25 million. He was young.
Most Lmens was 20 million. Most every single player we've we've gotten for less over the last 10 years has been just a project signing somebody who we were just like I guess we'll see what happens. This is a proven experienced player who has anchored a Europa winning team, Europa League winning team and an excellent Gaspirini side, has Champions League experience and has performed at a good level as one of the better teams in his league for 35 million.
I I really would like people to give me an example here of where you're getting much better value than that or experienced decent players because I don't think it exists.
He has one year left. Who cares?
We paid 55 million for Mason Mount with one year left just a few years back.
>> I know most will disagree, but Edison is uninspiring. I hate Ser midfield signings coming to the EPL.
>> I hear that, but I think that it's there's been plenty who has there's been plenty who have failed and there's been plenty who have been successful. Um, it's happened all over the case. But then give examples of of other players, you know, in that case. Tanali came from Syria to the Premier League. He's done really well. Um, you know, and when you look at a lot of these players, another player that we're looking at, when you look at the deals that are out there, Anthony Gordon is today going for 70 million pounds. Anthony Gordon has fewer open play goals per 90 than Patrick Doru.
Anthony Gordon is starting and for one of the worst attacks in England. He went for 70 million pounds. Georgino came from Italy. he was good. Um, you know, and and when you look at the prices and things like that too, I I really want people to, you know, if you want to make a claim, that's fine. But where are the examples of these guys, one year left, one year left where you're getting them for less than 30, 35 million? Because people seem to have this idea that that happens all the time. It doesn't. It doesn't. And if you look at last year's midfield, Arsenal play paid €70 million euros for Zuba Mendy. He hasn't He's not even that good.
They won the league, not because of Zuba Mendy, you know. Um and and I and I just go, where where are these like ultra value signings that people are that are supposedly out there that are being made by Premier League teams? Where are these um where are those signings? Where are those ideas, you know, that are out there? Any I'm serious. Like, any examples? Any examples in the top six clubs of them signing somebody for under 35 million for an experienced midfielder who's played in Champions League at a decent club? Any just one. Come up with one from any team in the last 5 years.
That's all. come up with one. That's my question.
Um, >> Mayu/Fernandez/Edison/ Tactically, who sits?
>> Probably neither. And probably both at the same time.
Probably neither. It's It's a duel.
>> A bit worried about his first touch.
I mean, that's fair, but I think it's totally fair to have to have concerns technically and this and that over the players, but I got to say, nobody used to talk like this about footballers.
Nobody used to talk like this about footballers.
Arsenal paid 15 million for Norard. He's over 30 and played and played and um and didn't play. Exactly. Liverpool's Gravenber. Liverpool's Gravenber. think Ju Gomez would have been better and less of a risk as a depth signing.
>> I think Jiao Gomez is a good player and I liked him. I don't see a big difference between Xiao Gomez and Ederson. Ederson is taller. If you want to balance it out on one side in terms of risk, Joe Gomez is 5'9. Hard to play him with Kobe Manu who's not really great in the air. Ederson is 6'1 and is better ground coverage and more athletic in that sense. So I think as a partner for KBI um not all the time but in those games I think Ederson makes for a better fit in that respect um than Xiao Gomez though I really like Xiao Gomez as a as a footballer as well. Grabber is a great example because when when we were linked to Gravenber back in the day, most everybody, including myself, was like, "Hell no, no way. Byron failure, don't buy from the Bundesliga. Cast off blah blah blah this and that." Um, and he was what, 24 million, and he's turned into one of the best midfielders in the league. The fact is that um if you look at it, >> under my opinion, United are going smart on this transfer window and I can see it being the underdog that will get one of the best midfielders in PL.
>> Yep. Yep. I I I I think it's a I think it's really good. I think we have a good strategy. Mallister had a uh Mallister Mallister had a certain agreement by the way as well. Um but I don't know. People have been claiming my calister [ __ ] for some time, so I'm not sure about that.
But no, I do agree with that. If you look at if you look at Liverpool's midfield in terms of the way that they rebuilt uh overall, look at the players that they signed and look at the players who were a key fundamental part of their of their rebuild. Look at how many of them were in there, right? You had Gravenber, you had you have Jabasly. Before that, you had Milner, you had Dean Henderson.
Dean Henderson. No. Jordan Henderson, you had Waldom.
Every single one of those players is a title winner now.
Every single one of those players, I believe, is also a Champions League winner. No, a bunch of them are Champions League winner. Graven Burke was 40 million euros, wasn't he? Yeah.
Fine. So, it's this is so he was around the same price. It doesn't make that the point worse. It makes it only any better. um Macallister. They got one kind of semi marquee signing and that's not even the case in Fabinho who was maybe in that mid tier of like I'm not sure it was a superstar type signing but he was good. Definitely good. But every single those every single one of those other guys was in a mid-tier level of player who wasn't stunning, who wasn't outstanding. Some of them were viewed as failures. Some of them reviewed as not good enough and look at where they ended up. Moala was just a mid-tier signing. In fact, Trent Alexander Arnold was from the academy, right? Andy Robertson was from Hull, right? The reality is is that at the end of the day, um, a lot of clubs have built up with a good level of signings, a good level of mid-tier mid-tier signings. Javasai, Endo, Mallister, and Gravenber, right? How much did they spend on all of them? Where was the hundred million pound guy right in that in that window right they didn't do that jawasai endole mallister and gravenber I think in the end they spent about 120 for four players and they built themselves a good team >> the signing of Edison remind me of vineald [ __ ] >> it does it reminds me a lot of of vinaldum reminds me a lot um it does >> I also think Edison is just a bit old. I don't like only signing 25 to 27 year olds like Gunamo etc. You got to get some major hits on your 20 to 24 year old signings for longevity.
>> Yeah, I mean to be to be clear I agree with that. Uh we got Kunan and Bumo in that bracket last year. We got Lmens who's young and Shesho who's young last year. We got Doru and heaven in the January before that. I think the important thing here is that we are not overpaying for a 26 year old like paying 60 million 70 million or something but he's 20 he's only 26 he's got years to go you know what I mean but this summer we also should make sure and hope we get players a bit younger also to build up in terms of the longevity there does need to be a good balance but there's also experience you know there's also experience in a midfield that is very inexperienced there's also experience in uh when when their center backs are all giga old or injured and your guys who you have to back them up are younger.
You know, if if if if Yuro and Heaven are playing in the back line and you've got another guy who's 21 in front of them and Mayu is in front of them, there's no and Lmens who's behind them.
You've got like 21 year olds forming the entire spine of your team up until your attack. You know, if you if you plop like if you look at the middle, right?
Let's say you buy uh someone really young like a balaba on his own, right?
And you have balaba 21 years old, 22 years old, not so whatever, like not so experienced, up and down seasons. Uh Mayu who's young. Lenoro in heaven who are young and inexperienced. Llmens who's young and inexperienced. Shesho who's young and inexperienced. You have one guy in that entire spine in Bruno who has experience. one guy that's it doesn't make you know it's like that's not enough that's not enough I think you gotta just I I think you have to balance out the experience with the youth in in these areas too um in the spine of the team especially you know um so you know it's it's fine but I think that um you know where where you have to look at it is that again a lot of teams have built up um really well when they've done their rebuilds right by signing a lot of good players for their squad. Um if you look at for example um Oh yeah, we'll talk about that. That's interesting news. Okay, I'm going to just pull I'm just pulling something up that just came out I think which is I think rather interesting. It was probably in the Rashford article I think. Uh, we'll get back to that in a second.
>> Well, Carrick seems to fancy a leecher/mag spare.
>> We'll see about that in the long term. I I think he'll be dissuaded of that idea in the long term anyway. Um, but if you look at like if you look at think >> we got a garty and mount for rice's fee.
Don't bring average players just for numbers. Need to drop an 80 m bid for Chini to test Madrid's stance.
>> I agree with the last part of that.
We've got to we we should we we do want to get a marquee kind of signing in there. But but hold on a second. Back up a second. August back up a second.
August on that because this is the point I'm trying to make. Declan Rice was purchased for 100 million. Correct. What about all the purchases they made before that that led them to that point in time when they were already second in the league when they were already pushing, you know, for a title each year when they were already consistently back in Europe? What about all the purchases they made along that path? See, I think in in some instances, people think we're ready for one big signing to fix everything. And because we're Man United, and because we'll talk about the finances a little later, we may be able to shortcut this a little bit. We will be able to shortcut this a little bit um ahead of uh you know, how long it took Arsenal, but it took them six years, guys. It took them six years under Artetta to win a title. You understand?
Like our club, our fan base would be screaming for everyone out, everyone's a failure, everyone's got to be sacked, all of that. If four years from now, we still haven't won a title. Just just think about that with the Inos project for a moment, okay? for how long it took uh Artetta to win anything. And I mean anything of value, anything of value.
Six years.
Six and a half years. Cuz it came in mid-season. Six years it took them to rebuild. They didn't buy Rice in year one. Look at their transfers in year one, two, and three. Really, really, really, really mid. Really mid. If you look at Klopp when he came in, it was a little faster. It was a little faster, I think. But I think it was what, three years to win. Four years to win a title under Klopp, who is a great manager.
Four years for their rebuild to happen.
Uh, how many years was it from Klopp coming into winning a title? They certainly started pushing City at about three. They won a Champions League. It was about four years. They did big things, but it wasn't all right away.
They built a really solid base. You look at the transfers they did that elevated them to more consistent players in general. You know, they had, you know, Thomas Party, all other things aside, was just a mid-tier signing that turned out very important for them. Um, you know, and all of that. Um, they did a lot of good moves over there. They bought young players. They bought different players. They didn't buy just young players. They bought some old players, too. They wasted money. They did. They got transfers wrong. Kai Hberts has been for me essentially useless. Gabriel Jesus is terrible. They had Raheem Sterling at one point. Am I Am I crazy or was that just Chelsea? I can't remember if they swapped back and forth on things like that. So, you know, it's not like none of these guys make mistakes along the way or that they got all their transfers perfect, too. And I'm not saying we don't have to go get um we shouldn't be going and trying to get a big signing. We totally should. We absolutely should. Um, we absolutely should be going and getting those big ones at the same time. We should go for it.
>> I agree, but I do prefer Chumini and the Lamine Kamar types for 20 to 30 m because I think we're much closer to number 21 than those teams when Tettoric came.
>> I don't disagree with you at all, August, on that sense.
>> Anthony for 100 million guys, just for your information. Smiley face emoji.
>> True. True. And big signings don't always work out. Big signings don't always work out, that's for sure. Uh they can if you really get them right.
And I agree. I think we are much closer than Artetta and Arsenal was right. Like as of today, we're much closer than they were. So that's why it's not going to take, you know, four or five more years and and all of that. But at the same time, a lot like our trans I mean [ __ ] man.
Kuna and Imbbumo are better signings than Arsenal made during their early during the first four years of their of their uh of their rebuild. You know, like it's not like we haven't done well.
We're doing better than expected. We're doing we're doing this faster than expected at this point in time. We are improving at a better rate than any of these teams in the rebuild. Maybe maybe maybe there's an argument to be made there for Klopp. Next season is going to be a test for us if we can keep up because I think by this point under under the rebuild with Klo and Liverpool they uh by this next season you would argue they'd done they they'd start to do pretty well and get and get competitive.
So we've got to we've got to have a good window again. But we need a lot of players. We need a lot of players. And the reality is is that um we're going to go for more and we're going to get and and push for a bigger signing in this window.
It feels still like they have something in mind in terms of a big name or a big signing or a that kind of marquee player. It still feels like they have that in mind to some degree. There's still a lot of ways that they're operating that seem to do so. Um, but I think I there's another factor here that I want to say and I think this is where as um I think that this is where like as football fans analysis has become way way way way way too binary way too binary in how we're looking at things and how we're looking at transfers and the way that they're discussed. Like people take the Ederson deal for example and however it works out and I don't even want to make it I'm I'm seriously not even trying to argue about like what uh like whether he's going to work or not but people are assuming what you just wrote Issa that we're signing a third mid.
What does that mean? I've seen all this all this drama about, you know, uh oh, he's the Casemiro replacement. What the [ __ ] does that mean? Pardon my language.
What does that mean? He's the Casemiro replacement. Replacing a guy who could barely run, who was terrible in open play and defending, who was here and scored a few really nice headers this season, but was clearly on his way out and clearly not a part of our ideal midfield. What does that mean? I'm not even like trying to be disrespectful to Casemiro, but he wasn't like our ideal midfielder. It wasn't like he was this perfect superstar where our whole midfield was great and we're like replacing it's not like we're replacing Bruno Fernandez. We're not replacing Sir Alex Ferguson in the midfield, you know, like we're replacing a guy who's retiring to the MLS. Corp's first two summers saw Maine and Salah come in for good fees on TVD. Arguably the best CB of the past decade in Europe.
>> Well, that was the do that >> fifth window, right? Cuz Klopp came in mid-season. They had January summer January summer January. I feel like it was the fifth. It was the maybe his it was the fifth one under him that they got in Van Dyk and and then Allison was right after that as well. I'm not I'm not insult but yeah like we I think we've done nearly equivalent with that with Montan Salah so far but I'm not trying to insult Casemiro. What I'm saying though is that he's he wasn't this perfect midfielder for our team.
We're like we're not replacing a guy who was a legend of the club that carried us to titles and champions leagues and broke every kind of record. That's my point. We didn't have the perfect midfield and lose it suddenly.
We had one guy who Carrick figured out well this season how to utilize best to score on some set pieces and help turn the tide in games and then but we couldn't control games. We couldn't press. We couldn't do 90 things. We we clearly were playing a very passive and pragmatic style because of the limitations. That's what we're replacing. It's not an insult. We learned how to use him effectively with what he could do to help us win games.
But that's not doesn't it wasn't like this high ceiling dramatic amazing type of thing or a third mid. It it doesn't matter. We need to rebuild the entire midfield. We're building a whole midfield unit, you know. There's no third midfielder, there's no first midfielder, there's no second midfielder. Um, guys, Kazmiu was the most dribbled past player in the league, I believe. Please don't overrate his season. Lol.
>> But this is the problem.
>> One more year. One more year. Smiley face emoji.
>> This is the problem I mentioned with people overrating it and getting too emotional about it. You can't think clearly and you can't see clearly. You know, you take you take the Casemiro thing and and because people seem to have believed he was so good for us that it's like we're losing something that we cannot replace him. We cannot replace we can we can we can okay we can I promise you we can we can replace him. We can replace him.
Okay.
But this is the issue. People have been so fixated on the Casemiro thing that they don't see that our midfield was bad. It was bad. It was getting outplayed by so many teams. We won games. Not because of our midfield.
Just, you know, Kobe Mayo had a lot of growth over the season.
>> Bruno had been tot five decimeters this year. Then why is he going to the MLS?
>> Yeah. Well, there's that. Look, I'm not trying to get into an insult Casemiro thing, but like it's not that. The point is we did not have a good midfield. We didn't um for the aims that we had. You know, people go, I'm worried about the way we play football, worried about pragmatic style, worried about that was all a consequence of not having a midfield. That's all it was. The consequence is not having the type of midfield that um we needed to play proactive football to play the dominant style of football to to play how we want to do you know all of these things.
>> X smiley face emoji smiley face emoji.
>> So that that's that's my point is like that that's what we're trying to to do.
We we can replace him. We can do better.
we can um build a midfield. What we're signing is not a Casemiro replacement.
It's not a this or that. We're trying to build a squad as a whole. And we need three midfielders into the team this year so that we have four midfielders for those deeper two positions to pick from so that whoever platforms best, performs best, matches up best, and all of that works together is best. And whatever quality we can get, whatever quality we can get, we needed. We had no depth. We had no options, you know, we had none of these things, you know, um, in the in the team in order to solve these kinds of problems. We had tons of missing profiles left and right. There is nobody in our squad that has Ederson's profile. Okay. in the midfield. We have nobody who has his profile in the squad. We We just don't have it. It's a completely missing profile when you want the capabilities of ground coverage and, you know, to to to get around and actually pick up players and play to drop in and and out and, you know, we don't have any of these kinds of of profiles with any kind of, you know, technical quality in that sense in there. So, we needed all of that. We need those things and we need more of them as well. You know, there's a lot that we need in this team um to to complete and to have a good side. And that's why I've compared it to to Liverpool's rebuild of their midfield because they had Henderson, Fabinho's, Waldoms, Milner's, there's just a bunch of different profiles. They're just a bunch of different profiles, a bunch of different players and a bunch of different things. and you mix and match and you figure out what works. You know, this is what we talked about of what of what made, you know, Carrick successful is looking at the side instead of like, let's just back up for a moment here, right?
We we kind of moved away from this idea of dogmatic, systematized, principled football. Yes, we're going to have a a way of playing. We're going to have an idea. We're going to have a general concept under underneath this. But we said, look, Aram way too dogmatic in the way that he wants to do things. He keeps trying to squish everybody into these boxes and it doesn't work for the team.
>> One more year, Case Maru.
>> Case Maru.
Um, now we have Carrick who came in and said, "Right, I want to play a certain way, but the team can't do it. We're going to work around what the team looks like." So what we're trying to do is add and build good players who meet certain profiles and the club feel that they have. So you get this idea where people instantly think because we've signed um you know because we're signing a player who's cheaper, whatever this or that that it's like we know he's not good enough. No, that's not it at all.
Actually, that's not it at all. Their feeling is that the profile that he has and the ability that he has as a player that can fit into our midfield and because of his experience they think the the bottom is here. The ceiling is unknown because you don't actually know what the ceiling for a player is. Jordan Henderson won player of the year. Walden was incredible for a season mid before and afterwards or incredible for two seasons mid before and afterwards. And there's so many examples of this. You can see it at City. You could see it at CH at different clubs who've won titles over the years. Not people become sometimes greater than what they are as individuals when they fit into the right system, the right setup, and the right complimentary positions. It's better than the sum of its parts. You take players individually.
You can't really rate players like that because it's a team game. You take one player and you stick him here and he's nothing. you stick him within this setup and he's very very good.
So I think that it's just become way too binary the way that football is talked about as to well this guy's never going to be good. Who who knows man? Nobody knows that. There's so many statements of fact that are claimed that X player is going to totally fail. X player is going to be really really good. Um and this is the ceiling of you don't know.
There's no such thing as a ceiling.
There's no such thing as a floor, you know. They're they're just concepts and ideas. Nobody knows how well a player Vitina Wolves. Exactly. Nobody thought, "Oh, that's a player gonna be the best in the world one day." And then he goes to PSG, fits right in there, and bam.
That's how it works. You just don't know. Jack Greish went to City, fell off an absolute cliff. You know, like these things happen and nobody knows. It's about where they're going to fit in and how they fit best. Signing people who fit into complimentary profiles and ideas and how they all fit together is what works more than anything else. Not that player's this good. There are talents. Guys who, you know, are superstars no matter what.
They're obviously those guys. They're individuals who, you know, on their own are the absolute best players in the world. And there's no no matter where you drop them, they're going to do that.
Those players are extremely uncommon.
Those players are extremely rare. Those players are not the same. I mean, Bruno Fernandez, he was younger, yes, but at Sora, he was not the player he was at sporting when he was given a bit of a different style and a bit more creative impetus and he became even a different player at United. It's just based on and and I remember cuz Bruno was what, 25?
It was like, oh well, he's never going to be that good. He's too wasteful. He's not technically good enough. These types of things. I remember the discussions back then because not everybody was convinced about Bruno Fernandez. Um, and you can see what he was able to do when he came to the Premier League and how it translated and how it changed. You look at Marcus Rashford, give you an good example of that. In a season, Marcus Rashford here at United playing in a specific style, in a specific position with a specific fullback outside of him, had like the best form of any forward in the entirety of football.
You move him outside of that and weaknesses start to Udin, not Sora, my bad. But I feel like he was at two different Anyway, either way, um, whichever it was in where he was in Italy before he went to sporting um, same sort of story with that um, you know, is about where with with Rashford was the same thing. Where you fit, where you put him, where he was, they were all all different. Um, and where you fit and how they play together has such a big impact on the ceiling of the player. And I think that we we we we very much all put things into binary boxes and cannot >> of United fans was against signing Lemons and wanted Martinez.
>> Oh, and I'll give you an example. I'll give you another example because I saw people making comparisons of signings as well. Um, yeah, he did play for both Udin and Sori. I do remember that. um last summer. It wasn't just Martinez, it was Donnaruma. It was Donnaruma because City signed Trafford. City signed Trafford, James Trafford. And then they were like, you know what? We're going to sign Donnaruma 2. And I remember when people go and I remember when people looked at that and went that's ambition.
They're serious. They went and got the serious keeper. He's going to be the best. Donnaruma. They went and they paid the money 350,000 a week for Donnaruma.
Who's better, Donnaruma or Lmens? I can tell you who had a better season. It was Lmens. I can tell you who I'd rather have moving forward. Lmens over over Donnaruma, over Emmy Martinez, over any of them. I can definitely say that. Signing of the season, we didn't we didn't blow a ton of money on Donnaruma because it was all about, oh, we got to be so ambitious and aggress.
It doesn't matter. Nobody knows, man.
And I'm going to sit here and I'll tell you what, I will 100% rather in a year from now have people come back to me and say, "You said it about Ugarte. You said it about Ederson. You supported." Yes, I I supported the signing. I supported the player.
Thank you. And I will support the next one and the next one and the next one.
And I will tell you that I think they're going to be good and that they're doing it for the right reasons because I think they are. Do I know that it's going to work? Nope. And I'm going to support the next 10 signings that we make and at least two of them are going to fail. And if you want to come back and complain about it at that point in time, so be it. I'd rather support the signings. See that it makes sense to me. See why they want to do it instead of trying to sit here and be all clever and predict the future because you can't do it and people are wrong more often than not.
Nobody knows. There's so much variability in all this stuff. So, I'm interested in in in supporting the signing and the idea and understanding why they're doing it. Um, and I'll do it for the next guy, too. Now, if there's instances where I have doubt on it, I'll express my doubt on it. And if I'm wrong on those, then I will. But this isn't one of those cases. There's been plenty of ones that were wrong.
Plenty of ones that were wrong.
When we signed Anthony, I remember sitting here saying, "This is a terrible deal. This is a disaster." And I remember people screaming at me that it wasn't. And it's the same people that'll throw it back in my space that I supported Ugarte. Okay. Well, where were you back then? Where were all the people who supported the lap last season who are pretending that they didn't? You know, whatever, man. Just just don't worry about it. You can be wrong.
It's cool. Nothing wrong with it. I would much rather be wrong and uh and support the player than uh than be right and be negative about everything. It's just not the way that I'm going to do it. Um but I think we have good people in place. You're playing the numbers.
There's going to be failed signings, but failed signings doesn't mean we have a bad >> Can't believe Gordon Tubasu is done.
>> WTF Rashford.
>> We'll talk about Rashford here in a second. Um but yeah, that is actually actually crazy. Um, I had a doubt of Shesco for sure and he proved me wrong and I admitted it three months in. I said, "You know what? He's convinced me.
I get it. He's good. Done well. Awesome job." Um, so yeah, it is what it is. I do think a Kab and Ederson pivot would work. Yep, I do. Uh, do I have any doubts at all about Ederson? For sure. Andress expressed them to before. I I'm not going to claim to know he's going to be a superstar uh at all or anything like that or he's going to be like the the guy or something. Um I see a solid player that is not what people are describing and I think he has a good chance of working within the way we want to play football and I think that we have a good team in place and I trust their judgment right now. Does that mean it's going to be 100%. Nope. I think we'll probably end up with a hit rate on transfers of about 80%. Maybe 70%. And you know what? That's a hell of a lot above average, you know. So when we point to well they signed Duggarte. Well one it was not really the same team but like so what? Let's say they so they signed Duggarte. Let's ignore that it was there was other people involved.
They made a new signing that didn't work. Okay. How many bad signings did uh did Arsenal make in the last six years?
How many bad signings did City make in the last six years? How many bad signings did Madrid make in the last six years? How many bad signings did any of them make? They've all made them every single summer. What? Where's Marmush Pep? Where's Marmous?
Where is he? I haven't heard of him in months. He might be injured, by the way, but he's he's nowhere. Where's Rangers, who was supposedly the best attacking midfielder two games into the season.
Where are they? Where's Wallace? You know, where's Wallace, man? Where's Wallace? That's how I feel sometimes, right? Um because these guys at other teams when their signings fail, they just disappear. We never hear about them. When it's United, one signing from two years ago, nobody ever shuts up about it. Good lord, it didn't work out.
Move on.
Move on.
Move on.
Who cares anymore?
It's done.
It's over. Um, so it's like whatever, man. Um, Calvin Phillips, Kish, like good good god, man.
70% would be crazy.
Who the [ __ ] is Wallace? It's um it's uh it's from the wire, actually. Um Wallace. Wallace. Wallace. Any more people my age who've actually who've watched old I mean, you guys should have watched any of you should have watched The Wire by now. Sorry. Wallace, man.
Where's Wallace?
Um but yeah, let's look at what was actually reported here.
Yeah, Michael B. Jordan. Exactly.
Exactly.
Uh let's look at what was actually reported here, by the way, just because we haven't I updated this, by the way, a little bit. Um, I updated this a little bit and uh added a little bit of like a little bit of flash, a little bit of spice to this one. Um, when they're in this final kind of stage getting there, uh, when they reach above 90% and then there's phase, it's going to glow and it's going to flash a little bit and all that. um when deals done get marked, he's going to move up here into a new column, but he will not hit 100% and he will not be marked as done until the club put out an official tier zero report, but still I wanted something to make it a little more interesting. I changed some of the colors as well to show danger, things like that as well.
Um but yeah, we got some serious reports today. Simon Stone, a deal is close. Uh, Times UK, they said we've agreed a deal and then they said it's close to agreeing a deal. Kind of backed it up a little bit, which has confused things.
Simon Peach says that uh, United are on the verge of securing it. Uh, Sky Sports this morning had the first report on it that were about to be done there. So, it's enough tier ones, one, two, three, you know, and and a tier two that it obviously it's like this is this this deal was happening. pushed it up into this case, but it it won't move into this until we get three tier one reports like Orinstein, athletics, like actual deal agreed, all of that kind of stuff.
You know what I mean? So, that's where this one is at. Um, uh, that's where this one is at.
So, very, very advanced, uh, on that front. We got a bunch of news on that.
Now, hidden in that Times article, by the way, was the first sort of doubt cast that aligns with more of what I what I've heard and said, which is that Times said, "Belaba's price is viewed as prohibitive." It was it was it the way that it was said was that they have interest in Balaba and Tonali, but the prices of the players is viewed as prohibitive. It was in that article that just there was a picture of it shared, but you can't really some reason that article like doesn't load properly. Um, but anyway, it's in there. Um, so I believe that that's probably the reason that I've heard and been steered away from BABA, I guess, is that you've had plenty of reports about BABA being looked at, but you know, they said specifically that uh in this article is the first one kind of said the price is prohibitive. My understanding for what it's worth is that um from some of the things I've heard if you if you break down the articles and such was that United would be willing to pay a lot less for Balaba.
I think that the price is just far apart.
Maybe we'll pursue him in the future. I I kind of feel he's in the same bracket as Tanali here, which is that if the price were to come down later, then the pursuit could open up again. But right now, we're not pursuing either of these players at the prices that are being mentioned. Um, and again, we've had really nothing much new otherwise beyond interest in all of these players. Um, by the way, I've got the stats here for for uh for Ederson, but if we want to look at our good old fashioned charts here, um, Ederson is the blue. So, let's see.
If I remove some people here, you can get the idea uh of him versus Elliot Anderson. This these are his his stats.
He is comparable in that sense to virtually all of them. And uh and um hold on one sec, guys. Sorry.
Anyway, um, moving on from from that, uh, those were some of the interesting points. So, there's there's Edison's stats there. Let me see, what did I have pulled up here that I wanted to um Oh, yeah, here it was. I actually found the the image. Uh, Matteas Fernandez may prove more realistic. This is from the times article especially after his club West Ham United were relegated last weekend while Newcastle's Newcastle United Sandro Tanali and Carlos Bleba of Brighton and Hov Albian are admired by United but will also come with prohibitive valuations and then it talked about Chumeni and I found something interesting in all of today's news. If you look at most of the news that's come out over the last few days, the three players that we keep getting the most mentions to continuously is obviously Ederson, Matteas Fernandez, and Chumeni. The reports regarding Elliot Anderson continue to be d he's going to city. It came from Telegraph, Ducker, all sorts of guys saying he's on, you know, City are are leading and all of that kind of stuff for him and everything as well. So clearly, you know, it's still like he's on to City.
There's also talk that his valuation may be in the 115 million pounds range.
That's bit extreme. Now, United pull a blinder and come out of nowhere.
Whatever. A lot of reports continue to kind of indicate that Chua many will be difficult, but you never know that you never know. Maybe we can throw a uh throw something at him to to force the issue. But it does feel like to a degree it's Ederson, Matteas Fernandez, and then wait and see. Does Tanali's price come down? Does Chumeni become available? Does City fail to close a deal for for Elliot Anderson? Does Enzo Fernandez um does Enzo Fernandez pushing for a move somewhere? I've been talking about him trying to get to Madrid for years. Does does that happen? Does that move the market? Does that change things? Does that release somebody? Does somebody else become available? All of those things. There's a ton of, I think, variables for that potential third signing that could still change between now and post World Cup market. So, um, there's could be a whole bunch of things that happen. Now, reports still indicated that City are not really wanting Enzo. I It sounds like maybe agent talk, but he is definitely wanting uh out. Now, we've heard a lot less about Adam Wharton in recent times. He was a target before, but I think once again, it's more the the balance of things. That being said, if you were to get Ederson, here's the problem with Adam Wharton.
How do I how do I say this? Warren and Mayu is not a good midfield.
Warren and Mayu is not a good midfield.
But Warton and Ederson is a good midfield.
Wharton and Matt Matas Fernandez could be a good midfield, but you can't pay 80 million for a guy that doesn't fit with your main guy right now that you have there in KBY Mayu. And that's the doubt in paying for for Adam Wharton for for them is that's where they this thing about two similar. They're not the same player, but there's a there's a balance issue you might have with the two of them where yeah, Wharton could fit with a lot of these other engine type of players, but not with KBBY so much. And so, it's more of a limiting factor. When I look at Elliot uh Elliot when I look at Elliot Anderson, I he could play him with if if you signed Elliot Anderson, you could play him with Kobby Ederson, Matteas Fernandez, doesn't matter. If you sign Ederson, you could play him with KBBY Matteas Fernandez, Chumeni, Ederson, Orton, it doesn't matter. If you sign Matteas Fernandez, you could play him with um Ederson, KBBY, Anderson, Chumeni, doesn't matter. If you signed Chumeni, you could play him with anybody. Doesn't matter.
If you sign Wharton, you limit yourself and and with the options you already have because you already have one guy that you're thinking you're limited. So my point is is that with how we're planning, it seems to make sense from a squad perspective that we don't limit our combinations possible in the midfield.
That's how I feel when you when you take all the other options, you can mix and match everything together and it'll work just what works on the day. You know, you don't have these balance problems.
So I think that's that's the reason I think we're overlooking Wharton at this time as the best as I understand it and I've heard because it was as far back as January that I heard Wharton would almost assuredly not be like our first or major signing because of the limitations that come with him. And and look, every player has a weakness. Not none of the players we're signing are perfect, but one of the weaknesses we want to avoid in signing new players is the athletic weaknesses, the physical flooring weaknesses, because that's like your baseline, right? You don't want to bring in players where you go, uh, suddenly we're too slow. We can't compete physically. You want to at the baseline always be competitive physically.
Um, and you don't want to sign players that that don't allow you to do that.
So, I think that I think that I think that's the reason why he hasn't become um like a serious uh target again in this sense cuz he's very good. He's very good. I mean, Warren is a really good player, don't get me wrong, and we've tracked him for years and we've liked him, but but yeah, he's just um he's got amazing passing and there's things he's really good at, but other sides of it, it's just um just not great. Um so yeah, uh that that's that's Wharton, I think, again. And then if you look at the way we're trying to play, it seems like it's more, you know, all action style, all action type type stuff. Um, so there was then there's this that came out. We've talked about this a lot in the last few days about this left-winger versus left back thing. And I think that my information that I've shared for the most part has been leaning towards probably we're going to get a left back because maybe our top left wingers are not available. Um, and obviously Doru being seen as more of a left winger as a as a part of it. We've looked at left backs all season. So, uh, Lori says, "Unied are looking at the left side of the team during this window, but fullback seems the likeliest spot for an arrival. Matteas Kun has grown into his role in the left wing, while Patrick Dorg was offered plenty in that position since Michael Carrick's arrival." And I think it's the simple point of best returns when spending your money.
We have Matteas Kuna. Like I can't think of a game I wouldn't want Kuna to start. I can't think of a game where I go, you know what? I don't want Kuna in the team. He's been that good.
He's been that influential and that important as he's grown throughout the season. So I look at that and I go, well, well, hell. I mean, why do we spend a ton of money there?
You know, maybe I understand the width thing and you do have Doru, but when I look at the left back, I go there's a lot of games. I don't think we have an option there that suits. Tons of games. I like Luke Shaw.
It's great. He's been reliable this season. He's a defender now, and there's aspects to his game that aren't great there, but I know he's not going to be able to get up and down. We don't have somebody that can do it in that position and he's old, you know, and a lot of mileage on tough legs, you know what I mean? Fact is, we've got to get another guy in there uh at left back. We have to. We don't have the options. If Dorgu is not that guy and he's going to be used up around the wings, then we have to. So, it makes a lot of sense to me.
Lewis Hall and Nathaniel Brown, I think, continue to be the main targets there.
Um, in terms of Newcastle, the problem that we have, um, is that is this Anthony Gordon thing. I've discussed this numerous times over the last two months that I believe that the issue we'll have with Newcastle and their pricing is that they're going to aim to recoup their money from Anthony Gordon, potentially Whissa, potentially Lero, potentially other players. And that means that they're going to um name a super high price potentially for uh you know Tonali who they don't want to sell and maybe maybe as well for uh Lewis Hall. Uh he was he's certainly going to have to request a move for something to happen there. Newcastle will need more money after selling Gordon for 70 million. They still will need more, but it's a pretty good start for them. And unfortunately, that does make it a bit more difficult. I think it's absolutely absurd that they're getting that much money for for Anthony Gordon. I think it's an unbelievable like uh overpay from Barcelona to do that and and a let off, but like damn, you know. Um but there might be something in it for for Hall.
Uh, obviously there's a bit of talk about Tanali and his agents and things like that. And I think we're very o I want to say this, I think we're very open to having conversations with Tanali's people um, and the player himself, but besides the price, you've kind of had briefings about concerns over his gambling ban. Once that cat's out of the bag, you can't like put it back in the bag and say that that it wasn't you, you know, you can't I don't know that United can put that, you know, can lock up Pandora's box again once you've kind of have that story out there among United journalists.
And you know what I mean? like, well, we were worried about his gambling a month ago. Now we're not. I don't I don't know that you can do that. So, I feel like now that that's gone out there for very reliable people in the United States, it's sort of it's hard to go back to that deal because it's not just the money, it's not just the price.
You've you've said you're worried about gam the bans and and like how do you fix that? Now, that being said, sponsored by Bway, 20 million pounds a year for a training kit. That was also out today, by the way, in case you did miss it. Um, the biggest training kit deal ever, I think. And and it's a lot of money, which is great for us, but like I mean, it is a little ironic the whole thing, right? concerns about his gambling ban, but then we our training kits are sponsored by Bway, but then like Tanali shows up to training and he's pictured every single week in a Bway shirt.
I don't know. I could see I could see this being an issue they want to avoid.
Um, I could see this I could see this being an issue they want to avoid to be honest. So, so hopefully we we do a little bit more push for for Lewis Hall because he's the right player to bring in from Newcastle if we're going to get anybody in. And I'm not necessarily like trying to make light of the like, you know, the betting thing and all that. I've been pretty discerning on that myself. It's just the the optics on this thing are crazy when you look at it, right? So like the memes and things that are going to come out of it are crazy. So anyway, it's like I don't know, man. It's like yeah, alcohol and a beer like ah I don't know. I don't know if if the optics can survive that situation um for United. So, it feels like maybe that one's going to be tough to put back in now that it's been said. I mean, they they'd have to do some serious PR work on the whole situation. Uh, but Lewis Hall is is good. Uh, we've got I think that's an interesting one to push on for United to see if he wants to request a move. He's going to have to do that. Um, and um, we'll see what happens happens there, but it's going to it will be tough to get anybody. it will be tough to get anybody out of uh out of Newcastle. So, it seems as though in general, you know, uh Chua many continues to be that main guy that like we're waiting on. I'm still suspicious that something else could come to the table once the market moves a little bit more post World Cup, but I do feel like we're going to wait and leave ourselves that variability at that point in time.
Now, in terms of the finances itself, so anyway, left back does seem more likely.
I'm I'm still thinking about Trufair, Lewis Hall, Nathaniel Brown. I'm still thinking about them. Um I'm still thinking about those guys. Now, on our financials, are we ready for the excitement? I will try to keep this brief. I'll try to explain this in in short sentences and and and not get too nitty-gritty into the details. Uh I've talked about United Finances a lot in terms of their situation. As I've said before, their squad cost ratios, PSR, forget about it.
It's gone, but also we don't have to worry about it. We've sorted it out. Um, we've sorted it out and that's not an issue. Uh, United's books are in much better position overall, but but there is still a problem. we can spend money but I want to just explain this in in brief so we can understand you know this situation in general these are United's third quarter so this comes up through March 31st just so you know this is up through March 31st um there is more money that comes in at the end of the season because you get those uh prize the prize money income things like that come in but oftentimes you end up having some big payments too but still if you look at the previous years fourth quarters things change a lot.
United have generated an operating profit for nine months compared to a loss. So, as I've said before, United's operating uh everything that they're doing is great. They've cut the expenses, raised the revenues, improved things. It's all good. We've gone from losing uh hundreds of million a year to profitable.
However, we're not really profitable. um our earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization was at 187 million versus 145. This is a massive improvement and this was already a massive improvement before. The problem in football is that uh amortization is players purchased. So this number, if you if you want, again, I don't want to get into it too far because it gets really confusing, but in a lot of businesses, you look at this number and go, "Wow, we can do whatever we want.
We're absolutely filthy rich." In football, you pay a lot of money on this a okay that's your summer transfers, but it does mean you can continue to spend on summer transfers. That means you can advertise a significant amount of money. Now there's interest taxes and things like that of about 50 to 60 million in there but it does mean you can advertise a lot of money means you can spend a lot of money. It does mean you can do that while being balanced because we do spend a lot. So as I've said before like if you look at the average of our last 5 years we're spending still some in the range of 200 million. We can do that and probably a bit more.
Uh you look at the cash overall compare it before commercial revenue is up.
Broadcast revenue is up. I actually don't know why that's the case. Maybe just because we're better in the league.
Uh total revenue is up. Everything's kind of up now. We still lost money. Why did we lose money? One, we had to pay for the sacking of the coach. Um sponsorship revenue was actually down a little bit because the training kit sponsorship with TZOs was gone, whereas that's going to pop back up here soon. Merchandising was up pretty significantly because we've been better. People buy more kits. Football is better. Buy more kits. Uh higher Premier League finish means we get a bigger share of broadcast revenue.
Um operating expenses were a bit higher.
Employee benefit expenses were a little bit lower.
uh exceptional items 16.7 million for the cost associated with the exit of Ruben Arum. So hopefully we don't have to keep doing this every single year because it actually costs a lot of money.
Um we lost like 20 million on that net finance costs were really bad. But this is just to be clear because people look at this and go well we spent 20 million on the Glazer debt this quarter. know it's it's foreign exchange rates because we have unhedged things and that stuff gets really complicated. Um here's the biggest issue. All right, we're going to look for the word cash. Cash flows. Okay, cash flows. I'm just going to jump to cash. Now, if you go down, blah blah blah blah blah. All right, net cash, etc., etc. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I'll find it for you. All right.
As of 31 March, our cash and cash equivalents were >> 60 repeating for us to approve. Why can't he say that there is agent fees or structure? Also, Mateos shows us what is next updates.
>> Yeah, I don't know why he's saying that because as I've shared all week, it's just not a done deal and we've just been progressing through negotiations.
Clearly, there was an improvement in the negotiations today. We weren't just waiting two days ago for the green light. We were progressing in negotiations. I think the green light is reliant on negotiations.
We want better terms, better fees. We're playing it a little bit cool, better agent costs. We'll see where it ends up.
Better installments. The huge part of it because of what we're about to discuss right here. For Matteas, we need to have talks with West Ham. I think they just sorted out their manager situation today deciding to keep Nuno. They were in the midst of some pretty big discussions.
West Ham. Uh, so I think there'll be open to talks after today.
>> I think there was a new TV deal deal in 2526 cuz Sky started showing all Sunday games and midweeks.
>> I'm not sure, but that that could be the case. Someone else will have to inform me on that because I'm not sure on the UK deals. Um, but here's where it's important in terms of in terms of the cash, right? Um and and this affects the Ederson thing too because this is where our spending comes from. So non-current borrowings blah blah blah. Now um revolving credit facility current borrowings are 262 million compared to 212 million. So we have we did increase our line our credit line which is what we've been using for a lot of cash but we also have had to spend on a chunk of it.
So, our cash and cash equivalents are actually a little lower than they were last year at the same time. So, that's the butt on this whole thing. That is the butt on this whole thing. We only have 60 million in cash available that has to pay wages that's got to do stuff.
And obviously, we have revenues and things and it we don't have enough detail to really know what that all means at the end of the day uh in depth, but we have a little bit less cash than we had even last year.
That doesn't mean we'll spend less than last year. That doesn't mean we can't do good deals. Our revenue will probably be higher. Maybe we get the 20 million from Bway upfront on July 1st. You know, maybe some other things happen. Um, our transfer fees owed is going down just the teensiest bit. Means we're paying it off. It's going down. We're going to have to be pay we're probably going to have to make hundred something million in payments over the next few months on previous transfers. There's a whole massive mess of moving parts on this cash situation primarily because we just have less money. We have less cash in the bank. But we are doing better because some of the things that reduced our operating profits are, you know, things related to transfers and borrowing and paying for things and all that. So things are better but our cash situation is not going to fix itself until we maintain this level for some time. And the reality is is that we need good deals. We need good amortization schedules. We uh wrong word we need good installment packages on the purchases that we are doing.
in order to ensure that we has have the cash to continue to do deals. We also need to figure out how to get more money in the bank. Uh more revenues coming in, sell some players in addition, things like that. Um but we do need more um we do need to get good installment deals this summer in order to stretch our spending as far as possible. If we don't do that, we are limited. So, every deal is going to have to be very discerning.
And look, I I spoke with somebody about this two weeks ago and I asked very specifically about it and they're not BSing on this front. I mean, it's in the numbers. It is the reality. And they told me, "Yeah, look, PSR, STR, these types of things is not a problem. We can spend and we will and we'll buy players." But the cash thing is is an inevitable fact of the situation that is completely unavoidable. It is the truth.
United do not have more cash. That report shows it there. United have less cash than last year and they have about the same space and credit facilities.
So, they still need to do good deals and yes, the revenue is going to grow and that'll help solve this, but they don't have that revenue yet. That revenue doesn't kick in until next year when they're actually playing in Champions League. So what they don't want to do in many instances is go borrow, you know, do Barcelona levers and say, "Oh, we're going to go borrow against the next two years of European football to pay for transfers today on the G and gamble it." They don't want to do that. They're not going to take risks with this club like that. Um they're not going to do those types of things. We're not in Spain where you could sleepwalk as Barcelona into the Champions League every year and make bets that are still dangerous but safer. We can't do that in the Premier League. We can't do that at United. If we sell players, they they very much potentially could take out loans against the sales. So, if we sell Rashford for 30 and they're paying it over 5 years, we might take a loan and get the money up front. Uh if we sell Ugarte or this and that, we might take a loan and get some money up front to pay things down. Uh there's all sorts of stuff, you know, on that front. But if you look at why could a deal slow down a little, what could be the thing? May have nothing to do with the fee, nothing to do with the players, and it could all come down to payment terms. United could be looking at the Ederson thing and going, "Listen, you want 35 million base fee?" Okay, that's fine. But listen, listen for a second.
We won't negotiate the fee down if you give it to us over 5 years. Why? Because think about the giant massive difference that this makes. If you buy a guy for 35 million and you have to pay it in two installments, 17 million in cash right away you've got to pay.
You get it over 5 years, it's 7 million a year. You have 10 million more in cash to play with. Well, the next time you go to purchase a guy for 50 million and they want it over two and a half years instead of five, that makes it from 10 to to 20 million that you have to pay up front. You now have that money. So, it's very very important, very very important that United get good balanced deals on this and that they don't hamstring their future deals by uh making poor cash decisions. They may even be look, you know, another factor in this where it's not about not doing the deal, but where you could see things I could see things slowing down a little is imagine in this instance they're in these deep sort of discussions with Ederson and they're saying this is the amount of cash we have. Okay, this is the amount it's going to take for that deal. Let's price out Matteas Fernandez now. Let's see what that deal would cost. Let's see what the first installment would be. Do we have the cash for it? No, we don't. Okay, so we need to get this deal a little lower so we can do that deal because this one's going to be easier to there. It could balance even in this way. You know, there's so many iterations that go into this. It's this stuff doesn't just get done out of thin air. The negotiators may be going in with the idea of I got to negotiate a deal that is dictated by something in else entirely, you know, and have a different goal for it. They may be happy to pay a 5 million higher fee if it gets us one more year to stretch the fee out like we did with Xerxy. By the way, we didn't pay his release clause. We paid a little bit more so we could stretch it, right?
These types of things matter and they can slow things down and they can change things and they can, you know, push things uh in a bit of a different direction than they were previously. Um now the positive is next year uh you know United will have a 100 million more in income coming in and that's pretty big and that's pretty big and we're going to have to have cash available and that'll help us pay down some stuff and it'll make a big difference but until then you know we still have things we have to we have to figure out right um so these are these are all really really important factors you know, in in the whole situation uh with the transfers where things can slow down and it's not PR and it's not, you know, crap and it's not, you know, being cheap and being lame and being bad at negotiations.
You know, it it is the reality of the situation that I always try to explain um in terms of what United must do and what we deal with. And you know, people minimize it. It's strange to do it, but the reason I never stopped going on about the Tenhog days, obviously, it wasn't just Tenhog. It was Myrtle, the Glazers, everybody involved in that.
The amount of long-term damage that they did, you can't, you know, people go, "It's in the past. It doesn't matter."
Yeah, it bloody well does matter. It has everything to do with the limitations we still have today.
It's the entire reason for it. It's 40 million50 million a year in servicing debts that they accumulated. It's not having any cash reserves in the bank.
Prior prior to Tenhog, we had like if you go actually look back, we had like 200 million in the bank at certain points. Co took a hit to that and then the Tenhog era finished us off.
Literally finished us off financially.
These things matter. It hasn't been that long. Until we're five or six years out from that, we will not have had the time to rebuild and fix up the the financials, you know. Um, so, you know, we're still paying for that. We're still paying for all of those deals. We're still paying for all of those summers. We're still paying for everything that happened during that time. Figuratively and literally, we're still paying for those transfers. It's half of our transfer debt, you know.
like it's it's ridiculous and it's and it's a ton of the the cash that we've spent. So, it's going to take some time to to recover from that. Uh big time to recover from that. Um and we're not there yet. But as long as we're in Champions League regularly, we will climb out of this hole. That 775 million 700 whatever type of revenue we can expect next year. there's still potentially more sponsorships to come in addition to that will make a huge huge huge difference in the long run to to fixing this problem. Now, in terms of sales as well, uh if you didn't know, I did add last night, by the way, a sales tab to the uh tracker. Uh it's not working at the moment. Crap. I'll have to check that out. For some reason, my sales tab disappears. It's a glitch.
I'll fix it. But there is a sales tab on the tracker. Um, it was showing up yesterday. I made some changes today and it and it disappeared. Um, there's a sales tab on the tracker and I'll be updating that when new news comes in on it. There hasn't been any new news in the last couple of days on the actual sales, but obviously there's Xerxy, there's Ugarte, there's Onana, and then there's Rashford situation. Now, what happens with Rashford now that um Barcelona are making that 80 million purchase of Anthony Gordon? I don't know. There's some talk in Spain that they wanted both and that and all of that, but clearly it's it's BS that they couldn't have afforded the 30. I think it's pretty obvious they just wanted to get him cheaper. They probably wanted him to lower his wages or some other fees even more. Um he's not United are still 100% not expected to bring him back to the club. Uh and and I think this the story between Rashford and United is pretty much over uh as far as we're all concerned.
So I don't know what's going to happen there. There are certainly other clubs interested. Bayern are interested or were uh they were also in the race for Anthony Gordon. So it makes me curious now that they might be they might check that out. They've had some luck buying players from England. I mean, Oise and Kane, they're have been unbelievable for Bayern. So, might as well do the trifecta and get the English left winger on the other side. I know Elise is not English, but I'm saying from, you know, the Premier League and all of that. Um, they might as well do that. Um, and just get the trifecta over there of having former Premier League forwards for their full front three over at Bayern. I guess, you know, I could see that happening. Any strikers/fullbacks in the mix? Didn't see any strikers/ fullbacks on the site in our radar.
Sorry for the late join.
>> All good. All good. Appreciate it very much. So, I do have some fullbacks on here. Um, we've got they're just lower down because we haven't had a ton of links. We have Lewis Hall. Um, we have Ryerson, which was a strange link. Um, we have Dio as well, but I I'm still not sure how about we have Lewis Skellyy and we have Nathaniel Brown. Now, they're all very very low simply because we just haven't had a lot of talk about them at this point, and it's probably going to be something we get to a little bit later on. Um, but yeah, they got Diaz from Liverpool as well. Good point. Yeah, at least they might as well be English, too. Yeah, I mean, fair. Um, but backup strikers, I I still have no idea. Again, the only guy I can really link us to is Gonzalo Ramos because he's been offered around. I don't know anybody else. I don't know anybody else that is actually an option at this at this point in time. So, but yeah, the there's quite a few fullbacks we're looking at. Uh and I think it would go in that order. Lewis Hall, Daniel Brown, Ryerson, but he's a right back, so maybe maybe not at all. Dio and Lewis Skellyy kind of in that in that role. Um, so yeah, there you there you go. So, not a ton there, but uh yeah, United uh we need to get some sales done. Um be beyond Bayern, there were a few other clubs interested in Rashford last time around and I think after he's had a good season, I think after he's had a good season. Um, so that does this thing where I can translate. Um, Trufair would be really nice. I know we looked at him at one point, but we haven't stepped up on any of those guys. Yeah, I'm very curious. I feel like at some point once we get a couple midfield signings done, we're going to get some like breakthrough kind of thing. Center back, I I'm still worried we're not going to get to it, but judgments are being withheld at the moment. They will definitely have new discussions about whether to sign a center back once we move a bit deeper into summer. Lacrosse over there at uh Palace. I if he is available for 40, I think he is really good. We have had a look at him. Maybe that's an option we could do. Uh Arsenal have been interested in Rashford. Um Juventus were at one point interested in Rashford. Oh, they've had a they're not in the Champions League even. So that financially they might be in trouble there. and uh somebody else was and I can't remember the club. There was a few there was a few. So, we need some sales to to help with this whole situation.
And yeah, we need to we need to balance out we need to balance out the the money side of things and and definitely hope we can get some some sales coming in.
Um, let's see what else if I um Yeah, that's I think that's all I had to to discuss today. There's going to be more financials tomorrow, so I might get a little bit more information on what happens there.
Um, what else? Is there anything else anybody wanted to talk about or know?
Palisin Conference League. I mean, I think that it's a good example of the difficulty of the Prem compared to some of these leagues at the middle level. You know what I mean? Like the Premier League is like short and narrow.
You look at it like the bottom is here and the middle is here and the top is here. Take La Liga, the bottom's here, the top is here. And it's the same for Syria, Bundesliga, all those guys. Like not necessarily well above the Prem, but like around that level, but they're bottom and it's and it's way worse as you go down the league quite a bit. It's way way way worse. So yeah, England have been insane in Europe now for some years and and it's a good example of how much better on average the Premier League is than a lot of these leagues on average, you know, compared to the average club.
And at the top end there's it's not much different. But at the middle level, yeah, mid teams in a Prem are a lot better than mid teams in in La Liga, Bundesliga, Syria, all of that. For sure. Makes it harder. It makes it a lot harder.
Yeah, the financial gaps in those leagues is huge as well. That's the main thing, honestly.
Two trophies for Palace. Two trophies for Palace. Yeah, correct. Correct. Like how Dembele could barely play in in in League One League uh and uh that helped them quite a bit.
You're worried those guys are going to beat PSG? I'm terrified, man. I had a nightmare last week and I was just like, "Oh my god, I have this terrible feeling Arsenal are going to win the Champions League.
terrifying.
Scary, scary stuff. Uh, let's see.
Anything else we wanted to talk about?
Anything else of note? Anything else I haven't discussed?
Yeah, again, there's there's some talk about Rashford still staying at at Barcelona, certainly, but obviously on the on the surface, it looks less likely.
Um, nine English teams in Europe next season. That's crazy.
Absolutely nuts.
Crazy sponsors on the horizon for for for uh for United there. I know there's talk.
So So maybe more maybe more.
We're going to say no to the price for everyone. No, we're going to assign players.
Update on the whiteboard. [ __ ] Um, I'm going to get the whiteboard down here for tomorrow.
>> I forgot about it.
>> Thank you for the reminder. Uh, most likely to I think right now Matteas Fernandez and then I don't even know how to say likely after that because it's a bunch of unlikelys.
Who's likely in that grouping? Like if I say chew a many, it sounds absurd because he's not likely. But maybe him.
Maybe there's the most chance he becomes available as a third midfielder. Maybe.
But it's still unlikely. So we need like one unlikely thing to happen.
Five transfers that will make us title contenders.
Yeah, I still think about Alex Scott as another option. Title contenders, we need Lewis Hall or Nathaniel Brown. I actually don't mind which one.
a good backup striker like Gonzalo Ramos, and I'm not even saying specifically him, but I think he's actually good enough as a backup striker. I don't think a ton of teams have amazing backup strikers. Lewis Holler, Nathaniel Brown, a backup striker like Ramos, not in this order, by the way.
um a center back, but I don't know who.
Maybe Schlatterback next season, True Many or Anderson and Matteas Fernandez. Like if I had to pick five, it might be like that five uh to to get us close enough. That would be like the closest. I think a backup striker could prove more useful even than the third midfielder because you're talking about the Premier League contenders. Like we might not have the depth for other competitions, but yeah, it doesn't mean it's perfect, but um I think we could carry I think we can carry the right back situation if we fixed everything else.
But obviously arguably one could would make a few different arguments things like that.
Can I do a video with a ser? Oh, I could I could I I can reach out to somebody probably.
Would it be Romero? Um, not for me. I mean, you never know, right? But not for me.
3CB Baston's move to Barca fell through 60 mion.
I mean, he's good, but yeah, I just don't think that's possible. An interesting one here. Um, we're just looking at a stat here, like Ederson on the ball.
I was just reading this. MPB put this stat up from Sky says passing accuracy is 89% versus customers 81%. Long pass accuracy 72% versus customers 54%. The thing about this and his and his ground dual success is better too. The thing about this is this is exactly kind of what I'm talking about like present that that things are being presented as like replacing Casemiro.
You can pick and choose stats all day to try and represent this or that.
We're not trying to replace Casemiro because we didn't win anything.
It wasn't good enough.
We We're not trying to do what we did with Casemiro. We're trying to do something different either way. And not that those stats look bad in in relation to Ederson or Casemiro. It's just it's all it's it's sort of meaningless, you know, to even get into that discussion in the first place. It's kind of silly.
They're they're it's not even relevant to the to the same thing.
You can name one cane. Interesting.
What what any info on Mateta?
Um we were very interested last year at one point but passed it up. He's going to leave. I would take him as a veteran striker as well.
What is going on with this?
YouTube's doing this odd thing where it's showing like the translate on a bunch of comments that are clearly in English and then you mouse over it and it translates it from English to English.
Super weird. Does this show up for people who are in the chat? Sorry, I just got super distracted by that. Or is it just on my side?
If you listen to Carrick, he knows he was limited with Kashmir. Correct.
Correct. Correct. Absolutely.
Absolutely true.
Yeah. People are exactly that, Dabby.
People are taking it literally. Like we we're not replacing Casemiro. We're We had Casemiro and we needed two more.
Kasmir is leaving. We just need three players. Forget who forget like the names of who's leaving and staying. It doesn't really matter.
No, I mean that like that one says Rahu Jimenez and then it has an a translate thing and I mouse over it and it says Raul.
Super weird.
It's just on my side. It's so weird.
I'll have to figure that out. It's like a strange glitch.
Um, all right. I think I think that's it.
What time is it? Three. It's >> What about Leandowski on the free ST?
Seems like United move.
>> I think he's too old for this hierarchy.
I think he's too old and I sorry. And I think that they would want too much on his wages for this group.
So, probably not. I don't think they're going to sign players that old, right?
I'm not like even totally opposed to it as a huge fan of Cavani and I would love to have him, but like a similar, but like yeah, I don't I think I think he's too old.
I think he's too old for us right now.
He's 52 and I think he wants pretty big wages too as well because there he's going to have big offers from Saudi and other places.
I think guys like Mata and Gonzalo Ramos and such are more realistic if we're getting a backup strike.
Um, okay. Well, let's leave it there for today. It's It's a It's been a long one.
I appreciate you guys all being here.
It's been an hour and a half. Crazy. Uh, only 196 likes. We've had over a thousand people here for most of the video. Please do smash a like on the video while you're here before you leave on your way out. Uh, I forget to ask. I forget to have a poll earlier and all that and I'm a bad YouTuber. Sorry about that. Uh, not that it bothers you guys, but um, thank you all for being here.
It's been an interesting day. Um, we're waiting for the one and only the Ornstein confirmations and things on Ederson. Let's see if uh, those come tomorrow because there's certainly talk in some of these pieces from Times and otherwise that the deal is about done and that it should be this week and that's all strong reports. So maybe tomorrow we'll get the the here we go and the deal done, you know, the alarm bells sounding and all of that would be nice. Okay. Uh thank you all. Enjoy your evenings and I will catch you tomorrow again. Make sure to also like on the video, subscribe, all of that. You later guys. Bye.
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