Josh Johnson on How Algorithms Raise Modern Men & George Santos Expelled 📱📉 #512

Added: 2026-06-02

[00:00:00]Did everybody get their Spotify wrapped?

[00:00:05]>> [laughter] >> Yeah, okay. I think Apple Music does it too now.

[00:00:11]This is my thing. I feel like those wraps are the closest things apps have to doing an intervention.

[00:00:22]>> [laughter] >> Because the app will come to you at the end of the year and be like, "Hey, hey, I'm not judging. I'm not judging.

[00:00:29]There's no judgment here. I'm not I'm just saying I looked at the data."

[00:00:35]It's not even my opinion. This is just hardline facts. I looked at the data and you've been listening to a lot of Imagine Dragons.

[00:00:42]>> [laughter] >> Is everything okay?

[00:00:47]Are you all right? I'm just checking.

[00:00:49]You know, you were in the top.05% >> [laughter] >> of Drake listeners.

[00:00:59]Is there therapy that we can schedule?

[00:01:02]You You've listened to the song "Stan" by Eminem 672,000 times. I don't even know how you pulled that off cuz that's more minutes than there are in the year playing the song that many times, but you did it. I will tell you though, we did have to alert Eminem >> [laughter] >> and let him know that somebody want to stab him, I guess. I don't know.

[00:01:31]>> [laughter] >> Y'all got uh >> [laughter] >> Y'all got George Santos today.

[00:01:49]>> [applause] >> Sure.

[00:01:57]>> [laughter] >> Is Is it Is funny to me because George Santos whole defense of himself was that y'all picking on me.

[00:02:09]But you got other members of Congress that are out here sleeping with lobbyists, stealing your tax dollars and everything, but you just you going to put it all on me.

[00:02:19]And I get what he's In that In that moment, I do get what he's saying. There are plenty of people doing very crooked things in Congress. They're not going to have the come up and say he just had.

[00:02:28]That is That is a fact, right?

[00:02:31]To be fair, though, George Santos is the type of person that you do the heist with.

[00:02:38]And y'all pull it off, and the next day he show up in a fur coat.

[00:02:48]And you're like, "Nigga, YOU COULDN'T HAVE LAID LOW?"

[00:02:52]>> [laughter] [applause] >> WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

[00:02:58]>> [laughter] >> HE'S LIKE, "WHAT? It's fabulous."

[00:03:04]Sure, it does.

[00:03:09]Cuz I'm not GOING TO LIE, GEORGE Santos is a snazzy dresser. I can't I can't hold him. He really is.

[00:03:15]Every time I saw him, he looked like he was in a different cut of something that I never seen before, you know?

[00:03:21]Dressing from the future.

[00:03:27]This is my thing, though. Like he spent all this money, campaign money, on stuff like uh like Botox.

[00:03:42]But you know what? Good for him.

[00:03:47]He wanted to look good for you.

[00:03:53]You know who spend money on Botox?

[00:03:56]We be letting Mitch McConnell sag in front of us all the time.

[00:04:01]Nobody says anything.

[00:04:04]This man sagging nonstop. He's swinging he's sagging so much.

[00:04:09]If you get Mitch turn around fast, you might catch some in the chin. You might get You got to do a rope-a-dope anytime Mitch turn around fast. You're like, "Oh, oh, oh, oh."

[00:04:24]>> [laughter] >> But George was like, "No, I'm not going to steal from you and be looking raggedy. That's not [laughter] the type of person that I am.

[00:04:35]You're going to get one of the other, all right?

[00:04:37]>> [laughter] >> I can either show up looking dusty and you can keep all your little money or you can get to see this."

[00:04:49]Spend money on OnlyFans.

[00:04:55]I say, "Fair enough."

[00:04:58]>> [laughter] >> The little bit of OnlyFans money he spent, okay, it's improper.

[00:05:04]He should be taken to task for it, right?

[00:05:06]But you know what's way more expensive?

[00:05:10]Using tax dollars to fund a whole mistress.

[00:05:15]You know what I mean?

[00:05:17]>> [applause] >> You got to get her an apartment.

[00:05:20]You got to fly her where you're going to be.

[00:05:23]You got to pay for her real boyfriend to go to school, like It's a lot of expenses.

[00:05:31]Spend money on Hermes. I didn't even know what Hermes was.

[00:05:35]Luxury bags.

[00:05:37]>> [laughter] >> Hermes.

[00:05:41]They're Yeah, they're Hermes. Hermes.

[00:05:45]It's pronounced Hermes. Oh, this is what happens when poor people try to pronounce >> [applause] >> This is what happens when one of the poorest puts luxury in his mouth.

[00:06:04]Yeah. Yeah. Spent money on Hermes and Versace.

[00:06:10]>> [laughter] >> Yeah.

[00:06:11]Wow. No. My bad. Thank you for correcting me. Imagine if I had gone around the country uh saying Hermes over and over again.

[00:06:23]I guess I still don't know what a Hermes bag is.

[00:06:27]Fair enough.

[00:06:29]>> [laughter] >> No, don't apologize. I was the one that doesn't know how to misspell them with my mouth.

[00:06:40]>> [laughter] >> That last laugh felt like you were laughing at me being poor. Uh uh.

[00:06:53]>> [laughter] >> I'm not going to lie, I didn't care for that one. That was a You know, like you'll be a little self-deprecating and then somebody will be like >> [laughter] >> Wow. Okay. Tell me how you really feel.

[00:07:10]>> [laughter] >> Yeah.

[00:07:21]I can't drive.

[00:07:24]Thank you. Yeah, you need them. Yeah.

[00:07:27]I can't drive. I don't have a driver's license. I grew up in Louisiana and that that's you know, where I failed the test. Um and so I would just have to you know walk or run everywhere.

[00:07:40]Which in Louisiana is both dangerous and exhausting.

[00:07:45]But I remember I took drivers ed and came time to do my driving test.

[00:07:53]It was bad.

[00:07:55]I don't know what it was. I panicked cuz I was I was in one of those driving test cars, you know? So it was it had the the brakes on his side, the brakes on my side, but just the wheel on my side, right? And [clears throat] I drove decently at the start.

[00:08:14]I'm good at rights.

[00:08:18]If I got to take a right, I'm a I'm a I'm a [ __ ] up a right, all right? Like I can I can cut a wheel on a right. I do rights like Formula 1. It's the left's that get me.

[00:08:27]Because there's just so many places you can go when you're trying to go left, you know?

[00:08:32]Take a wide turn, you can make a sharp left, you know? Left's make me nervous.

[00:08:38]And so I I it was a left that did me in.

[00:08:41]I was doing the test. I'd done okay. We had just started and then I drove on three lawns.

[00:08:49]>> [laughter] >> I had to take a left, and so then I took the left and I I I guess I was not cutting the wheel tight enough, and so then before I knew it I was on the lawn, right? Now the the first lawn was because I I wanted to make sure I was I was avoiding the car that was oncoming, right? Like let me go ahead and get out the way. The second lawn >> [laughter] >> was because I wasn't I wasn't sure if I had the room to to merge back into the road.

[00:09:25]By the time I was on the third lawn, I did forget I was on lawns.

[00:09:31]>> [laughter] >> I was just kind of like, well, he knows I'm doing my best.

[00:09:36]And it wasn't until he said get off the lawn, son.

[00:09:40]That I was like, you right, you right.

[00:09:41]Let me go ahead and merge back into the regular street.

[00:09:47]And then, I did pretty well. I did I did pretty well after that for a little while. But then, once again, it was time to take a left. And the the light to me, the light >> [laughter] >> was green, and then it was yellow, and then it was red, and it was the fastest yellow I've ever seen in my life. It was like the the the green was here, and we were good. And then, as I started to turn, the yellow was like like, you know, like it just became a red. And so then, I didn't want to run the light, >> [laughter] >> so I did stop in the middle of the intersection.

[00:10:24]Cuz in my mind, I was like, there won't be an accident if I just stop and let people go around, right? So, I'm just waving people around.

[00:10:32]And so then, everybody going around me, and he finally turned to me after a couple cars passed, and he was like, "What are you trying to do?"

[00:10:41]>> [laughter] >> I was like, I thought I'd let them go cuz I didn't [laughter] want to I didn't want you to like nix me for points if I run in the light.

[00:10:52]And then, he was like, "You ran the light immediately. You You were running the light when you got here." I was like, "That was a fast yellow, though."

[00:10:58]And he's like, "It wasn't. It wasn't at all.

[00:11:02]That was a regular yellow. You just panicked. I watched you. You panicked, and you hit the gas, then you hit the brake, and now we're here."

[00:11:11]And so, I had to take a couple more lefts, so I knew I wasn't going to pass.

[00:11:14]It was getting bad, right? And so then, he made me stop.

[00:11:21]He made me stop, which I didn't think they could do. I didn't know that you could be in the driving test and they're like, "You know what? Nah."

[00:11:28]I thought they had to let you finish for you to fail. He was like, "Nah, you you points-wise, there's no way you could make a comeback >> [laughter] >> right now, so I'm let's just stop. I'mma drive you back."

[00:11:44]So, he wanted me to stop the car and for us to switch, but he he offered me something very sweet. This is very nice.

[00:11:50]He said to me, he was like, "Look, I know you thought you were going to get your license today.

[00:11:57]I also know that your mom brought you.

[00:12:00]So, I tell you what, I'mma drive us back and about a block away, we can switch back and I'll let you drive up and you can tell her it didn't work out this time, but you'll be back, right?" And I was like, "That's very nice." And then he immediately regretted his offer because cuz then he was saying that to me when we were at we were at like just a road, right? We but not like this wasn't like it the intersection's road. This was just like a like a side road we were on that nobody else was on when he told me to stop. And so then I was like, "Okay, sounds good." So, then I just got out the car, but I didn't put it in park. I was just letting it go. Now, I'm young, I'm spry, so I can I'm able to just pop out the car, right?

[00:12:41]So, then I didn't even notice it was at a slow roll at the moment. And so, I pop out and I'm walking around the car when I notice I got to keep up with the car.

[00:12:50]I'm like, "Oh, no, I didn't put it in park." Now, he has his door open, right?

[00:12:54]But he is in his mid-50s and so, he having trouble getting out. So, I know what I should do. I should have run back in, jumped in, stopped the car, put it in park and everything, but in my mind, I did my job. I'm I'm on this side [laughter] right now. This is my side now. It's his job to get out. Now, he is trying to stop the car, but he doing he got one foot out and he doing like a Flintstone like like trying to stop because it's barely rolling. It's not like driving. It's just like a slow roll. So, then he's like, "Come on, now.

[00:13:24]Come on, now.

[00:13:26]Come on." He's saying "Come on, now to himself as he's stopping. And I don't know why he keeps stopping. Just keep your foot there. That's how Fred did it, you know? Just like he put it and then he let it drag. But this man is just like, "Come on now.

[00:13:39]Come on.

[00:13:40]Come on."

[00:13:42]>> [laughter] >> So I didn't get my license.

[00:13:54]I still take the train everywhere.

[00:13:58]Which is yeah, it was I got to airport and I was like, "All right, people said it would be bad."

[00:14:07]But I don't know if it'll be that bad.

[00:14:12]And then I got there and I was like, "They didn't tell me everybody would be here."

[00:14:20]"They didn't tell me the whole city had a flight today."

[00:14:23]There was not room in the airport. I get to the airport as the sliding doors open and there's just somebody standing there like, "No, you good where you are. Just it'll move along soon."

[00:14:39]I had everything I was supposed to have, you know? Went ahead and got in line.

[00:14:47]And it moved.

[00:14:49]TSA was doing their best. The line was moving. It was just so many people. I didn't know where we were going.

[00:15:00]Do you have it like we were in such a long line that the end of the line could have been a slaughterhouse? I have no idea. Like it could have been I was like, "This must be how sheep feel. This is crazy.

[00:15:11]I don't even see where the TSA They might be leading us out of the airport."

[00:15:17]>> [laughter] >> And then while I was while I was in line I witnessed a couple tragedies.

[00:15:28]It's part of it is that Okay, I'm trying to figure out how to put this. You can't give everybody the panic advice.

[00:15:39]Do you know what I mean? There you clearly have to get to the airport earlier than you've been getting to the airport.

[00:15:45]But when you say on the news that everyone should get there at least 4 hours earlier, people who don't even have a flight that day will show up and be like, "They said to get here early."

[00:16:01]Your ticket won't even scan today, sir.

[00:16:04]Cuz your flight is not today, sir.

[00:16:08]And now you've made everyone late. Now it's become a self-fulfilling prophecy because then you get there and there are people who do not have a flight until like now.

[00:16:16]I'm here. Like there are people who didn't have a flight for like 16 hours and they're like, "I don't want to miss it." So it's like, now you're in the way of the people who actually have a flight at 8:00 a.m. So now people are missing their flight for people who don't fly today. So then none of the planes need to go.

[00:16:34]>> [laughter] >> It was terrible. We were No one knew which line to stand in cuz there were four separate lines.

[00:16:44]There was like general regular there was pre-check there was like sky priority and then there was the touchless and they were all long.

[00:16:54]But they just had different things happen when you got to security. But they were all incredibly long and so no one knows where they're standing.

[00:17:02]There were some people that were like, "I think I'm in the touchless line.

[00:17:06]I'm about to find out."

[00:17:12]What terrible game show to play.

[00:17:17]Will you or won't make the funeral?

[00:17:19]>> [laughter] >> The line was so long. I I look It was early. I had to I try and fly out as early as possible so I can make it.

[00:17:33]And so I was there very early.

[00:17:36]It was so early that I know this probably didn't happen the way it happened in my head.

[00:17:43]But when I tell you I got in line and I saw a baby.

[00:17:51]And then about halfway through the line, I'm sure that was the baby's brother.

[00:17:57]But the baby was gone.

[00:18:00]>> [laughter] >> And so now I'm like, wait.

[00:18:10]It was like in The Lion King when they just gave Simba those extra 10 years real quick in the middle of Hakuna Matata.

[00:18:18]And he wasn't fully grown yet, but you were like, all right, that was a leap.

[00:18:24]>> [laughter] >> Oh, it's bad.

[00:18:31]It's very bad. People losing their patience.

[00:18:34]And the people There's something about screaming at the airport where not only does nobody take you seriously, but no one comes to help you.

[00:18:44]Like if some Like if somebody bust out screaming on the street, some people might stop and stare. Some people might come over to help. Screaming at the airport you aren't sure You're like, okay, is this a scream out of like you've the first person to notice something and we should all be screaming?

[00:19:02]Or you're just a future no-fly list individual?

[00:19:12]This dude screamed out of frustration.

[00:19:15]Nothing had happened to him. He'd just been in line, I guess, since yesterday.

[00:19:21]And he goes to scream, but the scream it's unfortunate. I hate when people have a funny scream because they're in distress.

[00:19:28]You don't want to laugh at someone in distress, but it's too good.

[00:19:32]This man was over here in line. Nothing happened to him. The line just not moving. AND HE GOES, >> [laughter] >> EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU YOU HEAR read a story like the story of the the 300 Spartans at Thermopylae and everything. And in and in a story like that, they'll talk about how Leonidas defiant till the end, you know, attacking Xerxes' army and let out a roar, a roar that was reminiscent of Hercules.

[00:20:12]And then you have Dave.

[00:20:16]>> [laughter] >> And Dave Dave has a a roar let out from um 2 and 1/2 hours of waiting.

[00:20:28]>> [laughter] >> Not exactly the same as being boxed in by a foreign army.

[00:20:34]And when he lets out his uh screech, it's not so much reminiscent of Hercules as uh a bird that flew into a window.

[00:20:48]Oh.

[00:20:49]So, the worst thing that happened is we were in line and then I was waiting. When I got there, when I'm finally inside, I think I'm in the touchless line. I think I'm in the touchless line because a very very very tired individual pointed at that line and said, "That's the touchless line."

[00:21:09]And I was like, "You're not even looking at the line, but I'mma get in the line cuz you've probably been doing this since 2:00 in the morning."

[00:21:17]I get in the touchless line.

[00:21:19]And then I hear this uh person that works for the airline scream out.

[00:21:25]She screams. And this isn't like, "Huh!"

[00:21:27]This is like a real scream. SHE'S LIKE, "AH! AH! WHAT HAPPENED?"

[00:21:34]And there was a dog And I hope it was a dog. There was a dog.

[00:21:38]There was a dog poop on the floor.

[00:21:42]I know. And there wasn't a person with a dog in sight.

[00:21:48]>> [laughter] >> And I was like, "See? See? This is why you got to be vigilant. Terrorism is among us."

[00:22:04]This is crazy.

[00:22:05]TSA should be allowed to tackle whoever did this.

[00:22:10]And so then, this person is screaming like, "Oh, what happened? Oh, no. Okay." Then she turns to the line.

[00:22:19]Because this is like in between where people drop off their oversized baggage and where the touchless line starts. A line that never goes as far, so it's longer than it's ever been before. And so she's just like, "Okay, can y'all help me?" Turns to people in touchless line, "Can y'all help me? If anybody's passing over here, can y'all just warn them, let them know?

[00:22:39]I'mma go I'mma go get everything I need clean this up." So then she walks away.

[00:22:44]And admittedly, all of us were like, we're probably not going to do that.

[00:22:49]Like I like I I >> [laughter] >> No, I'm not trying to be rude. It's just I yeah, we're probably not you know, if if the line goes, I go. I I don't I don't live here, right?

[00:23:07]>> [laughter] >> And sure enough, because it's frantic and because there's four lines.

[00:23:16]Didn't take long.

[00:23:19]Took about 20 seconds.

[00:23:21]>> [laughter] >> And this man is over here mad over here on his phone too, yelling at somebody.

[00:23:27]Yelling at somebody. He's like, "What's wrong? What What are you What ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE FLIGHT'S AT 10. It was supposed to be at 1. I'M AT THE AIRPORT RIGHT NOW. I CAN'T STOP."

[00:23:39]AND drags his suitcase through all of it.

[00:23:47]And so, we as a collective in line turn and we're like, "Ooh, that is our bad. That is that."

[00:23:55]>> [laughter] >> That's why you shouldn't have trusted me, because I'm over here thinking about other stuff. Like that.

[00:24:03]And this woman that the worst with airline walks back over.

[00:24:08]>> [laughter] >> AND YELLS OUT, "WHAT HAPPENED?"

[00:24:17]TO BE FAIR TO HER, SHE WAS gone for 20 seconds. [laughter] We let her down immediately.

[00:24:26]Ooh, we let her down quick.

[00:24:28]>> [laughter] >> She turns and looks at us.

[00:24:35]>> [laughter] >> And we as a group are like, "That's really our bad. Like, we shouldn't have we We should have done more. We should have done something." And that's Uh-oh.

[00:24:50]And then she was like, "Well, look, okay." And she had the little sandwich sign that's like like do not cross wet floor whatever. And she was like I have to go get the mop. Can you please please if anybody walks over here just warn them let them know, right?

[00:25:10]And once again we were like you couldn't trust us the first time so I don't know why you trust us this time.

[00:25:16]But sure sure yeah.

[00:25:21]And so she walks away.

[00:25:23]And this is the thing.

[00:25:25]I've been in line for a while now. The first 10 minutes I was in the line it was actually moving pretty good.

[00:25:33]Then for like 10 15 minutes it didn't move at all.

[00:25:37]And that's when this happened.

[00:25:40]But then almost as soon as she left I don't know if they opened up another lane. I don't know what happened but like the line started moving again and really moving moving to the point where I was like oh this is great. This is great. I'm covering so much ground.

[00:25:56]But I'm but I'm in I'm in line with everybody else the line starts moving and once again I don't live in this spot so that I I move when the line moves.

[00:26:05]And it didn't take long I forgot about it.

[00:26:09]I forgot about I'm that's in my past.

[00:26:12]>> [laughter] >> I forget about it.

[00:26:16]Until I hear somebody yell.

[00:26:20]And they yell like >> [laughter] >> Their scream wasn't like ah it was it WAS LIKE WHAT >> [laughter] >> CUZ THEY FELL.

[00:26:45]YEAH NO I know I know.

[00:26:49]I know. [laughter] And then I and then I hear her.

[00:26:56]>> [laughter] >> I hear her walk back up to the spot. I hear her yell, "WHO ARE YOU?"

[00:27:07]>> [laughter] >> WAIT. WAIT. WAIT. WAIT. WAIT. WAIT.

[00:27:13]WAIT.

[00:27:15]I understand.

[00:27:17]I understand. You're at work.

[00:27:19]You're doing your best to get through your day. A day that's been made infinitely harder by how many people are here and how nervous, anxious, upset they already are. The day just started.

[00:27:30]And you're just trying to do your job.

[00:27:32]And then out of nowhere, wow, something that should never be here.

[00:27:39]But you know what? You, being the good employee that you are, you try. I'm a Look, I'm just going to take care of him. I'm not even going to think about how I shouldn't have to do this at all.

[00:27:47]I'm just going to try to take care of it. So, you turn You turn to your fellow human beings.

[00:27:54]>> [laughter] >> You're like, "Hel- Hey, other citizens.

[00:28:00]Could you please have the humanity to if If someone crosses the path of this thing, which is highly likely, everyone is at the airport today. All 9 million New Yorkers are here today.

[00:28:19]>> [laughter] >> Just yell out something if you And then, you come back and your fellow humans have let you down.

[00:28:29]There's now tire tracks.

[00:28:32]>> [laughter] >> And so, you're like, "You know what? I'm still going to keep a good attitude. Let me put this down so hopefully more people don't come across anything. Let me go get the mop and the water I shouldn't even have to get cuz this is not my job, right?" And then you come back.

[00:28:50]And there's a guy there now.

[00:28:54]Cuz I should back up for a second. Now, when did this guy scream? He did a scream I'd never heard before. Because he screamed the way that you do Oh, whoa, whoa. That's the fall. That wasn't the scream.

[00:29:05]The scream >> [laughter] >> Wait, you got to be Okay, okay. Don't make Wait, don't make me laugh. Don't make me laugh. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[00:29:13]Wait, because to hear the scream, y'all got to be Y'all got to be silent. Got to be absolutely quiet cuz you got to hear it the way I heard it. Cuz I was far away. I've never heard anything like this before cuz it was quiet, but it was loud. But just Okay, wait.

[00:29:25]Perfect, perfect.

[00:29:28]He went >> [laughter] >> You know that You know that You know that pre-scream before a scream where you just coming to the realization of what is happening? It's a lot like a kid. Like when a kid get hurt and they're they're assessing how hurt they are. So, they start making a face, but no noise is coming out of them yet.

[00:29:58]They're like on mute for a second. Look.

[00:30:01]>> [laughter] >> It's like if you hurt your little brother or your cousin or something and then you see him make face and you know you have 12 seconds to be like, "I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[00:30:09]I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[00:30:11]I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm so sorry."

[00:30:19]>> [laughter] >> This man SLIPPED WITH WHOA.

[00:30:30]>> [laughter] >> AND THEN AS SOON AS HE REALIZED IT WENT THE quiet whisper of realization.

[00:30:43]>> [laughter] >> No, it was terrible.

[00:30:48]It was terrible.

[00:30:49]Incredible long line.

[00:30:51]Children were growing up.

[00:30:55]>> [laughter] >> And then and then poor Oh, you finally get to the front and poor TSA is over here not getting paid, getting paid off and on. Like they go they go maybe maybe a couple weeks getting paid if they're lucky and then they're not paid again.

[00:31:22]Wait.

[00:31:25]Crack doesn't even have this job insecurity. Like this is like >> [laughter] >> This is crazy. You work for the government.

[00:31:33]And then you're getting paid sometimes and then you're going long stints without getting paid and then who gets you got your back pay, but you start to live life while you were waiting for the back pay and the entire time you have to deal with with us. Listen.

[00:31:49]Listen to me. We as Americans, for the sake of not just TSA, but ourselves, we as a country have got to we have got to learn what metal is.

[00:32:04]>> [laughter] [cheering] >> We have got to learn what actual metal is because the >> [laughter] >> These TSA workers look so exhausted because from the time they start their shifts you have people trying to walk through the metal detector.

[00:32:38]As soon as it goes off, THEY'RE LIKE, >> [laughter] >> BUT THEN, THEY LIFT THEIR SLEEVE, and they got SIX WATCHES ON.

[00:32:54]>> [laughter] >> YOU DIDN'T think that was going to trigger something?

[00:33:03]No.

[00:33:05]It's It's It's unacceptable. If I was TSA, I would remove the metal detector and just make it a magnet.

[00:33:15]>> [laughter] >> Forget to take your belt off, you walk through. Yeah, you know what I mean?

[00:33:23]Y'all wasting EVERYBODY'S TIME. OOP.

[00:33:29]>> [laughter] >> NO.

[00:33:37]THIS IS INSANE.

[00:33:39]And then there's the There's like the indignant when your when your bag gets pulled. Oh, when people's bag gets pulled.

[00:33:51]It's tough. I've wa- I've watched a lot of people try to get away with stuff.

[00:33:54]This thing When I first started traveling, it was hard to know like whose side to be on in some of those instances because Because truly, it would be like, "Okay, you're not supposed to have more than 3 oz, but this thing literally says 3.2 oz."

[00:34:11]Like before they made travel-size toiletries and stuff, people would just be going through it at the airport.

[00:34:20]And TSA would have to be the bad guy.

[00:34:22]They'd have to be like, "You can't bring 2 gallons of shampoo with you."

[00:34:29]And people are mad at you because they're like, "Why did you need to take the shampoo?"

[00:34:37]"This is my special medicated shampoo.

[00:34:39]This is the only one that works with my hair. If I wash my hair with any other shampoo, my hair catches on fire. And you're over here taking my only good shampoo. What's wrong with you? You the devil? Why would you take my shampoo like this? You love doing this, don't you? You love taking people's shampoo so their hair catches on fire."

[00:34:56]>> [laughter] >> And then you're like, "Yeah, look, I'm sorry. You cannot bring two gallons of shampoo." The The The people who I have watched argue with TSA, it's It's Initially, when I was like When I was like in my early 20s and I was flying for some of the first times I had flown, I'd see people really try to like haggle where they're like, "I know I know it's not supposed to be over like 3 oz, but it says 3.2 on the bottle. Can I just" And they're like, "No. No."

[00:35:26]Like, I understand getting annoyed when somebody's like a stickler, but when I tell you, I've traveled so much now, I've seen people try to bring to a flight. They give the reason, and the reason never makes it better.

[00:35:42]>> [laughter] >> There was a dude who actually tried to fly WITH A SWORD.

[00:35:49]>> [laughter] >> AND I'M OVER HERE I'M OVER HERE getting getting my suitcase, getting like my backpack, everything, passing by. And so I didn't get the full story. Honestly, I should have stayed and been nosier, but I didn't get the full story. All I heard as I passed was him go, "I'm not going to do anything with it." And it's like that.

[00:36:15]>> [laughter] >> You can't possibly think that is what they need to hear.

[00:36:24]>> [laughter] [laughter] >> Cuz I've been I've been stopped before and it's never it's never fun. Because sometimes it's just you like forgetting that you have water in your backpack and you're like, "Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, throw it out. Whatever." You know what I mean?

[00:36:42]Especially if you're in a hurry, you're like, "Oh, what is it? What could I have possibly" And getting stopped at TSA is a lot like getting in a fender bender.

[00:36:54]Because initially, right when the thing happens, you you don't think it could possibly be your fault.

[00:37:01]Do you have any just like when two cars make slight contact, just that little bump, it's like, "OH, WHAT WHY WOULD YOU WHY WOULD YOU STOP WHEN I WAS GOING?"

[00:37:14]OH, JUST CUZ THE LIGHTS RED. THE LIGHT THE LIGHT >> [laughter] >> IT'S THE SAME THING. IT'S THE SAME THING when you get your when your bag gets flagged, you're like, "WHAT?

[00:37:27]WHAT IS IT? WHAT? DO YOU HATE FUN? Is there fun in there?"

[00:37:31]>> [laughter] >> And then you realize it's your fault and then you're like, "Oh, my bad. I'm sorry."

[00:37:40]>> [laughter] >> Yeah, I didn't I'm sorry. I didn't mean to put six water bottles in there.

[00:37:44]That's my >> [laughter] >> Cuz I've never had the boldness to be indignant with I've never I mean, I've also never packed a sword, but I've never I've never had the boldness to be like, "What?

[00:37:58]What? Some Somebody did 9/11, so now you think I'mma do something with my sword?

[00:38:04]That's That's a stretch.

[00:38:08]They didn't even have swords at 9/11.

[00:38:11]>> [laughter] >> I got I got to stop by the TSA one time.

[00:38:16]This is This is very embarrassing.

[00:38:18]It's terrible. Like I stopped by TSA, they flagged my bag and the whole time, you know, they ask the questions, "Anything sharp? Anything like I should be aware of?" I'm like, "No, no." And this time, I was genuinely mystified at what they could cuz I didn't even I didn't pack any merch. I didn't pack Like I literally just had clothes in there. I don't I think even my toothbrush and and and stuff was in my backpack, not my suitcase. And so, I was like, "No, I'm And I'm like curious with them." And then, sometimes when you get stopped, you can see the screen, and sometimes you can't. Sometimes they're very secretive.

[00:38:56]And they press the screen. I didn't know it was a touchscreen. And he pressed the screen.

[00:39:08]>> [laughter] >> And they go in the bag.

[00:39:19]And at this time, I could actually see the screen. And so, I saw something I didn't even recognize. And turns the screen to me even more, and he's like, "Are those brass knuckles?"

[00:39:34]>> [laughter] >> And I was like, "Sir, I don't own brass knuckles." And he's like, "Then what am I looking at here? Like what is the And now I'm freaking out a little bit because this is This is like the most someone's really like interrogated me at TSA. And I'm like, "If it's in the bag, it's yours. You can't just be like, 'Oh, it's not my gun.' Like you know what I mean? Like If it's in the bag, it's yours." And so, now in my head, I'm like, "Ooh, I wonder if I like bumped into somebody in security, and then they like Ocean's 11 put some brass knuckles in my bag or something." I don't know I don't know what I don't know what's going on. Somebody's trying to jam me up. I'm glad I didn't panic. There was a part of me Look, look.

[00:40:19]>> [laughter] >> I don't know if you can tell, but I'm pretty soft. So, like As soon as they had three questions for me, I was like, "I didn't DO IT." LIKE AND SO THEN >> [laughter] >> SO THEN HE OPENS my bag, flips the bag open, and goes right to where he saw the knuckles. And oh, I was devastated.

[00:40:48]Cuz they weren't brass knuckles, just like I thought they weren't brass knuckles.

[00:40:52]But I had forgot they were in my bag.

[00:40:54]They were toe spreaders.

[00:41:05]>> [laughter] >> Look, look.

[00:41:16]>> [laughter] [laughter] >> Look, before you judge Look.

[00:41:31]I've been working on my feet all my life.

[00:41:36]All right, I've been through a lot. I got I At one point I had prescription shoes.

[00:41:42]>> [laughter] >> Just try to make sure my toes don't just keep getting tight and collapsing into each other and become one toe at the end of my foot.

[00:41:52]So at night, sometimes I put the toe spreaders on to remind the toes, "Hey, each one of you is an individual."

[00:42:05]>> [laughter] [laughter] >> Yeah.

[00:42:15]Yeah, I was I was like, "Oh, yeah. Those are >> [laughter] >> Uh >> [laughter] >> Yeah, those those are my practice knuckles, dog. Like that.

[00:42:36]Cuz I know you can't fly with the brass ones, and so I put on the You know what I mean? Squish, squish. You know what I'm saying?

[00:42:44]>> [laughter] >> I I used to work at a grocery store. Worked at a couple grocery stores. I've had a bunch of like odd jobs in my life and everything. And what I appreciate about those odd jobs was odd hours. Cuz then you always left your shift with some sort of story.

[00:43:12]Something happened because you were out when no one should be out.

[00:43:17]There was one time I got off work. It was It was 3:00 a.m. I got off work, and I'm walking out, and I see >> [sighs] >> I see this uh this woman, and she was clearly from the situation.

[00:43:32]A um a lady of the evening.

[00:43:38]And I I witnessed this lady of the evening quit.

[00:43:45]>> [laughter] [laughter] >> It's a very special gift to be able to see someone quit their job. Because quitting is so liberating.

[00:43:56]Quitting Quitting takes you to a place you Cuz a lot of people don't even think that they can quit their job. You know, they'll work a job, they don't necessarily love it, and then they're getting ready to quit, but they're like, "Oh, how will I make money? Or what will I do next?

[00:44:09]Whatever." But then when you finally get the courage to quit, nobody can touch you that day.

[00:44:17]You know, I I've gone to Wendy's before and watched somebody quit. I didn't go for the show, it just happened.

[00:44:27]I didn't know it was their last day and they didn't seem to know it was their last day, either.

[00:44:34]But then they just started telling their boss off and they were on a roll and they when they were like, "I quit."

[00:44:40]And I was the only one.

[00:44:47]But yes, there was a there was a there was a woman outside. I'm walking out of the store and and she was quitting. She was like, "Yeah, I'm done with you. It's over. I'm finished. I don't I'm I'm not with you anymore. I'm not working with you anymore. I don't want to see you again, right?" And starts storming off.

[00:45:04]Right?

[00:45:05]And this man, who in this situation was clearly her pimp, was also There's no other way to say it. He was also in a wheelchair, okay?

[00:45:26]>> [laughter] >> I know, I was surprised, too.

[00:45:36]And so, he's following after her, right?

[00:45:45]>> [laughter] >> And he's furious and he's saying all the stuff that pimps say and stuff that pimps say from the movies. Like he was over HERE LIKE, "HOW YOU GOING LEAVE ME?

[00:46:07]>> [laughter] >> I MADE YOU WHAT YOU ARE, GIRL.

[00:46:12]YOU CAN'T LEAVE ME.

[00:46:20]GET BACK HERE. YOU NEED TO GET BACK HERE RIGHT NOW AND APOLOGIZE, RIGHT?

[00:46:25]>> [laughter] >> Following after and she was like, I told you I'm done. I don't want to do anything to do with you anymore. I'm sick of you. I don't even want to look at you again. And then she just keeps storming off, storming off, a little faster. So then he started >> [laughter] >> cycling a little faster.

[00:46:44]So he's talking about, you sick OF ME?

[00:46:46]I'M SICK OF YOU, TOO. But you work for me, girl. You can't just walk away FROM ME. YOU WORK FOR ME, RIGHT? Then she whips around and it's like, I said I won't work for you anymore, right?

[00:47:07]She got pretty far ahead of him.

[00:47:10]>> [laughter] [laughter] >> And I told you you can't quit. How about that?

[00:47:26]>> [laughter] >> And she turns around.

[00:47:31]And she said, I can't quit?

[00:47:34]You said I can't quit?

[00:47:37]Yeah, you heard me. You can't quit.

[00:47:48]And then she kicked him in the chest.

[00:47:56]>> [laughter] [laughter] >> Not only does she kick him in the chest, and look, I'm just telling you I'm telling you what I saw.

[00:48:08]>> [laughter] >> I am not I am not on the pimp side. I'm just telling you what I saw.

[00:48:15]>> [laughter] >> She did wait to kick him till they were uphill. Like [ __ ] Cuz now he OVER AH!

[00:48:30]>> [laughter] >> I THOUGHT HE WAS FAST GOING FORWARD UPHILL.

[00:48:40]>> [laughter] >> THIS MAN ZOOMED BACKWARDS.

[00:48:45]I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO GO ON FOREVER.

[00:48:46]She just walked off into the night and he was still flying backwards.

[00:48:53]>> [laughter] >> Till he hit a bus stop. And that was >> [laughter] >> He had to stop eventually. I DON'T KNOW WHAT >> [laughter] >> I WATCHED UM I watched this documentary that came out Louis Theroux did about manosphere, right?

[00:49:17]Yeah. And there's been a lot of praise, a lot of criticism of documentary. Some people felt like it didn't cover enough or it didn't push enough to >> [clears throat] >> expose what these guys were like. And some people I guess people who are fans of these guys feel like it's somehow unfair even though it's their words.

[00:49:40]But what's interesting about um about this whole ecosystem of online content and how people treat each other in the pursuit of of some sort of better life for themselves is that a lot of it is like performing the type of masculinity you think will get you something.

[00:50:02]You know, like like truly these guys are actors.

[00:50:05]You can see it in the documentary. You also see it in real life.

[00:50:10]A lot of these dudes aren't acting this way in their personal life. In fact, they interview one of the guys with his girlfriend and and Louie asks the girl from what what is it that you like about what is it that you you see in him? And she specifically said "Oh, you know, he's one guy in front of the cameras, but he's a different guy when he's with me."

[00:50:32]And that should let everybody know something that this thing is a is a game to them. It's a performance, you know?

[00:50:39]And plenty of people, myself included, growing up, going to adulthood, you perform a certain type of masculine. You perform this thing that you think will make people like you. This isn't anything new.

[00:50:55]You know.

[00:50:56]I remember one time I I had a crush and she had a problem.

[00:51:03]She needed her sink fixed.

[00:51:07]I don't know anything about sinks.

[00:51:13]But I but I wasn't going to tell her that.

[00:51:16]I was like I I had the whole thing worked out in my head. I was like, "Okay, look, I'm going to I'm going to look up online everything about sinks.

[00:51:22]I'm going to get in there. I'm going to fix the sink and then she'll be so grateful she'll let me take her out to dinner. This is the this is the beginning of beautiful friendship. She's going to tell our grandkids that your daddy fixes sinks." And I'm going to lean away from my grandkids and be like You know what >> [laughter] >> And so sure enough, I went over to her apartment and I I even bought tools.

[00:51:48]>> [laughter] >> Tags were still on all the tools.

[00:51:54]>> [laughter] >> I was trying to convince her that's like the style. You know, when you really work with tools like that, you it's like Timbs. You just leave the tag on. Let people know.

[00:52:05]>> [laughter] >> I got this from Lowe's.

[00:52:10]And so then I open the cabinets and get under the get under the sink and she was right, there's a problem.

[00:52:24]This This looks very bad.

[00:52:27]>> [laughter] >> It look I mean, it looked like whoever did it before me also didn't know what they were doing because there's all this like there's all this like plumber's tape everywhere and it look it looked like an entire system. Like it it made me it was so confusing cuz it made me think maybe I don't know how sinks work.

[00:52:47]I was expecting to get under there and see like one pipe and I'm seeing like 12 routes.

[00:52:53]>> [laughter] >> Turns out some of that was because she had a garbage disposal.

[00:53:01]So I'm laying there and I'm like, okay.

[00:53:05]>> [snorts] >> Okay.

[00:53:09]I'm out of my depth because everything I looked up online did not cover what to do in this situation. All I really took away from what I saw online was righty tighty, lefty loosey.

[00:53:28]>> [laughter] >> But now But now I'm laying there, right?

[00:53:34]Now I'm laying there and then she's she's standing over the sink and she's like, "What's it looking like?" And in my head, I know I don't know what I'm doing, but in my head, this just look I know I I know I shouldn't even be there, but in my head, listen, this is a thought I had in my head, but it to me, just personally, even if I did know what I was doing, I just got down here. Why are you rushing me?

[00:53:57]>> [laughter] >> But because I don't know what I'm doing, now I'm panicked. I'M LIKE, "UH!"

[00:54:08]UH DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. But I'm laying under the sink, and she's like, "What's it looking like?" I'm like, "Uh!

[00:54:14]IT'S ALL HERE!"

[00:54:18]>> [laughter] >> THAT WAS NEVER THE CONCERN.

[00:54:23]>> [laughter] >> AND SO THEN, I'm like, I need to buy myself some time. What do I do? And so then, I grab one of the wrenches, and I just started banging the pipes. I WAS >> [laughter] >> AH!

[00:54:59]>> [laughter] >> AND SO THEN, I'M LAYING THERE, and I did I did it for way too long. I did it for like 6 minutes straight, cuz I just kept thinking like, let me look and like, it's easy enough to bang stuff while I look at stuff and everything.

[00:55:25]And then, uh you know, finally, I notice in all the banging that one of the um one of the bolts, I don't I don't what it's called, but basically, it was loose. It was loose.

[00:55:38]And so I was like, "Ooh, maybe this is it.

[00:55:41]Maybe I Maybe I found it by accident, but still maybe.

[00:55:46]Let me go ahead Let me go ahead and tighten it. See what happens." And so And so I tightened it up and then, you know, put on my best my best wanna-be plumber voice.

[00:56:01]I was like, "Go ahead and try it."

[00:56:06]>> [laughter] >> And so she turned She turned the sink on and the water came out like perfect.

[00:56:22]The water came out perfect from the from the faucet. It also came out perfect completely under the sink. I I was drowning a beating.

[00:56:36]She couldn't even hear me say turn it off cuz I WAS LIKE, >> [laughter] >> OH.

[00:56:57]NO, PERFORMING only works so well.

[00:57:01]Is It's very difficult to like get to the bottom of the root problem because it feels like so many of these problems are that these guys that make no mistake are grifters.

[00:57:21]These guys identify real problems. They identify real feelings and they manipulate it just in time to bring these young men in, but actually give them nothing.

[00:57:33]You know?

[00:57:35]Cuz you're a If you're a young man right now, I'm very blessed.

[00:57:39]I'm incredibly blessed I grew up in the time that I grew up in.

[00:57:43]You know, I'm I'm a millennial and so when I was a kid, I had some internet.

[00:57:51]I had like I had almost like a half-and-half experience because I remember like doing those like sandlot type baseball games with your friends where you're playing in the street and a car comes and you have to break up the game for a bit and then you resume and then you argue about what a home run really is.

[00:58:09]But then I also remember when the internet started to take off and how crazy it was. You would send each other emails like what we see as shares now of memes and of like fun little short videos of reels, that used to be an email that you got from your friend of a car flipping seven times.

[00:58:32]>> [laughter] >> And then the driver just getting out.

[00:58:36]And you're like, this is crazy, right?

[00:58:38]This is crazy.

[00:58:40]But we didn't we didn't even fully understand this internet that had been that had been not just given to us like really thrust upon us.

[00:58:49]>> [snorts] >> And so I can't imagine what it's like to be a young man now where you're just you're drowning in it.

[00:58:59]I felt like I was drowning in it by the time I was even like a young adult. I was like, this Some of the things that I don't want to think about or talk about or see are just everywhere all the time.

[00:59:11]Imagine if you're if you're so young, you're so impressionable to the point where you think that this stuff is life.

[00:59:20]That's That's terrifying. I grew up on internet that even to this day I don't understand. They used When I got the internet, it was on CD.

[00:59:39]To this day I don't know how that worked. WHAT WHAT WHAT IS ON THE CD?

[00:59:45]WHAT IS THAT? Cuz I thought you had to have You would just get Okay, this is going to be very annoying to explain, but some of you are young and it's This going to sound fake, but you used to No, you used to get internet Okay, you would get You would get an offer in the mail. They would mail you internet.

[01:00:11]You would >> [cheering] >> You would open the mail and it would be internet in the mail. It would be a CD.

[01:00:22]A CD.

[01:00:24]A A The compact disc would have the internet on it. And then you would take it home. You'd be like, "Oh, the internet." Or you'd already be at home cuz it came in the mail. You'd be like, "Oh, the internet." And then you would put it in the computer. And for whatever reason, you got like 30 hours of internet, which was a lot back then.

[01:00:47]I know y'all use it up in a day today, but 30 hours used to be a lot of internet.

[01:00:53]And you would surf the web.

[01:00:56]It was called surfing.

[01:00:58]>> [laughter] >> We had a name for the World Wide Web.

[01:01:01]That's where the www comes from.

[01:01:07]>> [cheering] [applause] >> Do you want to hear any other facts that sound >> [laughter] >> like they're from the Middle Ages?

[01:01:21]>> [laughter] >> Yeah, you used to used to get internet from the disk and then you would put the internet in the computer and then you would have internet.

[01:01:30]>> [laughter] >> You know what's devastating is I was actually helping my mom move a while back and we were moving just all this junk and all these different boxes and I found one of the disks. I was like, "Wait.

[01:01:47]Is there still INTERNET IN IT?"

[01:01:55]NOW I JUST GET MINE FROM THE HOTEL, BUT like I wonder if I put the disk in while I'm connected Wi-Fi, will that BE SUPER INTERNET?

[01:02:08]OKAY, BASICALLY FOR REASONS I CANNOT EXPLAIN, but I'll try to right now. In case you're like cuz some of y'all look young in a way that's annoying.

[01:02:19]>> [laughter] >> You know what I mean? Like you just skin all good and everything and like you're like, "What's sciatica?" Like I I I I I I I I I I I Okay, back in the day I I know I can't do this every time I do comedy, but it just it it it keeps popping up. So, back in the day there was there was internet in the world, but everyone didn't always have it and there was like a modem and a router. I know today they're like the same thing, but back in the day you had a modem and a router. I don't know what that had to do with the internet, but you had to have a modem and a router. So, you had to have the modem to be like and then you had to have the router to be like ran and then you would mix those two together and then internet would be on your screen, but the internet would be slow. Like the internet would like so you wanted to let's let's say you were trying to um let's say you were trying to look for an image on like um Google images wasn't even >> [laughter] >> I hate remembering before Google images.

[01:03:35]But yeah, you would be on another site like Dogpile or Ask Jeeves or Yahoo back when Yahoo okay. So Yahoo Yahoo used to mean something.

[01:03:47]>> [laughter] >> I know that now Yahoo Cuz now these young people are in the workforce and and there are certain emails where you can see in their eyes >> [laughter] >> People People 25 and under look at you like you were mummified If you say @hotmail.com @yahoo.com >> [applause] >> Or like your name.net like >> [laughter] >> Yahoo used to be so anyway, you would be online And Google Was too young.

[01:04:32]Google was like Goo like it just wasn't It wasn't doing what it does today.

[01:04:39]And so you had to go to these different sites. Sometimes the site didn't even have what you wanted. You had to go to another site. It was it was almost like talking to people.

[01:04:46]Cuz you had to be like you would ask Jeeves Jeeves, what is it?

[01:04:50]Jeeves Jeeves, tell me. And then she then Jeeves >> [laughter] >> Depending on the question, Jeeves would be like, I don't know, sir. Like And then you would have to go to like dogpile.com and then you went to dogpile and then those search results The dog would just be like like And then you had to go to Yahoo and when you went to Yahoo, that was when you were like, "Okay, here's the thing I was looking for." So, then you would try to, you know, let's say like, uh, download a picture or even just go to a screen with a picture on it. The The router and the modem would work together. They would rub up against each other and make it real warm so that you got internet, cuz I think internet has needs heat. And so, the the the picture, it was usually top to bottom.

[01:05:44]So, I can't do it exactly, but it would usually be top to bottom. But, I'll do the opposite just so you see what I'm talking about. You would go to the web page of the picture that you wanted, and I know that now when you print something, it just spits it out, but printers used to Printers used to print per letter. They used to be like, "A." Like, printers >> [laughter] >> Back in the '90s, a printer had to like sound it out. Like, you would You would type something, and then you would hit print, and the printer would be like, >> [laughter] >> "A WHOLE PAGE?"

[01:06:32]>> [laughter] >> PRINTERS REACTED like I reacted to homework. I'd be like, "SINGLE SPACED?"

[01:06:43]>> [laughter] >> AND THEN, THE PRINTER was really working the way typewriters work, where a typewriter >> [applause] >> We used to need a letter-to-letter relationship with paper.

[01:07:06]And you would type on a typewriter the way you do on a keyboard and it would use all your fingers, not just the thumbs. And it would punch ink in the shape of the letter that you needed to but then as the typewriter went it would it was helping you out because it would move down the line of the page so that you weren't just like typing all the same letters in the same spot. And then at the end it would be like ding and that would just let you know, "Hey, this line about to run off the page." And so then you would slap it. You'd be like, "Thank you."

[01:07:40]And you're moving it on over.

[01:07:42]You know, some people are very dainty with it.

[01:07:44]Some people are like, "Ding."

[01:07:46]But like if if you were having fun, you know, right?

[01:07:51]And a printer used to work the same way.

[01:07:53]A printer used to be like cuz it was trying to do it as fast as possible and it was in a panic.

[01:08:09]And it would spit out Well, now when you went to a webpage that had a picture on it it would work a lot like that where the image was coming across very slowly and then it would just little by little you would see the image that you were looking for and about halfway down the page you'd be like, "I think I went to the wrong page.

[01:08:26]This is not even This isn't what I wanted at all, actually."

[01:08:32]But the way it would creep it would just it would be it would be so little at a time that >> [laughter] [laughter] >> And then IT WOULD FREEZE.

[01:09:00]>> [laughter] >> AND YOU'RE LIKE, "THIS HAS BEEN 20 MINUTES OF MY LIFE.

[01:09:05]>> [laughter] >> SO THEN I ONLY HAD ENOUGH internet to like barely get online. I would go on forums and I'd do message boards and stuff like that. But the thing >> [snorts] >> I think the thing that really gets to me is that being online now is is very difficult. Whether you're on social or not, being online for your job or being online also for your entertainment, so many of your hours are put into this thing. And sometimes we lose track of how it's affecting us. We think that we're choosing everything.

[01:09:47]And we never stop think that maybe some of this is taking us for a ride, you know? Especially when you're a kid.

[01:09:54]Because I I fully understand the criticisms of the documentary that it talks about these men and their backstory. It it it does um a lot of work, some people have said, to like almost like normalize and humanize them to a level where they aren't as culpable for their for their actions. Even though they are saying really demonizing things about their own work in the documentary, it glosses over, you know, the girls and and women affected by not just their like online behavior, but how they affect these young men who then go out into the world acting the way that they act to try to get what they have. Cuz you you watch these uh these manosphere guys, and some of them are very very popular. Some of them are trying to be popular, but they have pretty similar messaging.

[01:10:54]The messaging is that the world is unfair, the world doesn't care about you, you don't have value, you have to create your own value.

[01:11:04]And no one will want you, not for companionship or friendship, unless you make something of yourself, and I can teach you how to make something of yourself.

[01:11:14]Oh, no one's going to come save you, no one's going to come help you, but I care about you. That's why I'm going to help you become a real man, a high-value man.

[01:11:23]They love talking about high value. All right? Make you a high-value man.

[01:11:29]And what they usually end up doing is selling courses.

[01:11:34]They sell these courses, whether it's to work out, whether it's investing, whatever it is. They sell business courses, start a business. There's one dude who sells courses on how to make courses.

[01:11:48]And I was like, I've never seen more pyramid-shaped business model.

[01:11:52]>> [laughter] >> This one is sharp. It's so pyramid.

[01:11:57]>> [laughter] >> You will cut yourself on it.

[01:12:01]Oh.

[01:12:03]And and you see these young men feed into it.

[01:12:06]You see them really accept what these people are saying, because they have so much certainty.

[01:12:12]They have a deep amount, at least it seems, certainty in what they're saying.

[01:12:16]And they have money, and they have women in all their videos. They must have a bunch of girlfriends, or some of them have wives and a girlfriend. And they they and they're ripped, too. They're If you're a young, skinny kid, like I was, you might see them and be like, "Well, that's everything wrapped into one."

[01:12:36]He has companionship, he has a bunch of friends, he has a bunch of money, he goes to parties, women like him.

[01:12:43]And this is a thing that I just I genuinely I mean, obviously, every every man from beginning of time grows up with certain levels of misogyny around him, but I had never had to deal with a grifter like this. Not this exact thing.

[01:12:59]That's tough. The closest I came to really having to deal with this sort of thing was when once again, I was very skinny. Like you could It's It was concerning. Like it's just I I did I did not wear shorts. It was >> [laughter] >> And I I went to the store and I was like, "You know what I need? Protein."

[01:13:26]That's what'll do it. That's what I've been missing this whole time, I think.

[01:13:30]>> [laughter] >> If I get enough protein, I'll be A REAL BOY.

[01:13:37]>> [laughter] >> NO, I JUST GOT PACKED THE PROTEIN, THOUGH. If I If I drink all the protein It was right there. I can't believe I didn't buy it sooner.

[01:13:47]>> [laughter] >> And so, I bought this protein. I don't know I'm going to be honest with you right now. I have no idea what I bought. It was just like It was like Mass Gainer X7. I was like, "All right. Well, if I'm if I'm seven times the size that I am now, I think I'll be like regular size."

[01:14:08]>> [laughter] >> I was very skinny. I didn't even like to clap for fear of sparks.

[01:14:16]>> [laughter] >> I was very skinny.

[01:14:20]And so, I I took the the big huge jug of protein home, right? And it was it was huge. It was like >> [laughter] >> It really was, I'm ashamed to say, a bit of a workout getting it home.

[01:14:39]>> [laughter] >> Because I cuz it was so it was so big cuz in my head I was like, "I'm going to get I'm going to I'm going to take double the serving size every day and I'm going to need to do that for like a year cuz you can't build muscle overnight and so I'm let me get the biggest one they have. I took the biggest one that they had at the store and so I'm bringing it home. I sit it down and I'm like, okay, this is it. A new life cuz I already did I already did the workouts and I'm very sore and you need the protein to get to the muscle to repair it. So, okay, here we go and then I went to try to open >> [laughter] >> I can't tell you how demoralizing it is to think that your your new life is on the other side of this jug where you'll be a big strong man but you just got to open the It felt like a Greek tragedy trying to open the because the lid the first of all lid huge but it's also not Okay, all right.

[01:15:39]>> [laughter] >> The lid was like so big cuz once again, I brought the whole thing.

[01:15:48]>> [laughter] [laughter] >> I went and got a spoon.

[01:16:02]>> [laughter] >> I was over here hitting the spoon again.

[01:16:12]>> [laughter] >> I went and got boiling hot water to pour on the edge cuz that's worked on pickle jars before.

[01:16:27]>> [laughter] >> I about tore my back opening this lid. I opened it up dust in the air.

[01:16:41]It smells terrible.

[01:16:44]In my head I'm like, "Did I accidentally buy the sulfur?"

[01:16:48]And so then take the scooper. The scooper was the size of my fist.

[01:16:53]I take the scooper and every milkshake should have two scoops in it if you want a massive gains.

[01:17:01]>> [laughter] >> So I put two fistfuls of sand >> [laughter] >> in this water cuz I was like, "I'm not going to waste this on a smoothie."

[01:17:12]There's no way this is going to mix with a smoothie. It's the thickest It was cement. And so then I stirred as best as I could until it was just a sludge.

[01:17:22]And then I drank it.

[01:17:26]>> [laughter] >> And I I laid there thinking, "Okay.

[01:17:38]Just do that for the rest of my life and I'll be happy."

[01:17:42]>> [laughter] >> Just do that for the rest of my life and I'll be I'll be fine. I'll be happy.

[01:17:48]You know, cuz I'll eventually I mean the muscles got to come. The protein's in there. I already I already did the workout. So like I can't be full of protein and working out and just stay the same. That's not possible. And plus I'm I'm drinking mass gainer 7X out of a vat big enough to sit on.

[01:18:08]>> [laughter] >> I woke up in the middle of the night with a with a stomach that >> [laughter] >> There's no other way to describe it except to say I looked pregnant.

[01:18:36]>> [laughter] >> This is This thing had given me the worst gas of my life.

[01:18:47]>> [laughter] >> And I was just rolling around in pain and everything.

[01:18:55]And I was like, "Man, what am I going to do?

[01:18:58]What am I going to do? I feel so sick."

[01:19:03]And so I decided the next day I'm going to work out, but I'm not I'm not going to do two scoops.

[01:19:12]I'm going to do three so I can get this over with.

[01:19:17]I can't live like this the rest of my life. Let's hurry up and get these gains in now.

[01:19:22]I can't keep doing this every night.

[01:19:23]This is just >> [laughter] >> And I was not gaining.

[01:19:33]I was not gaining at all. I was just squatting and farting.

[01:19:41]I wasn't gaining any weight. How will I ever be happy? I don't have the muscles that I want.

[01:19:48]I'm broke. I'm buying Mass Gainer 7 from the discount store.

[01:19:55]This is terrible.

[01:19:57]And then one day I don't even know if I was looking at a magazine or if I had passed by a different store, but I saw the same model from Mass Gainer 7X on a different product.

[01:20:16]And I was like, "Wait.

[01:20:19]Is he saying that he took that I had never considered in this entire time that the people that they put on these products were just models.

[01:20:30]That they were already ripped. They didn't use this thing.

[01:20:33]They didn't use this thing to get fit at all. They were already like torn.

[01:20:40]And then a week later, I found OUT ABOUT PHOTOSHOP.

[01:20:47]>> [laughter] >> I FELT EVEN MORE BETRAYED. I WAS LIKE, WAIT, are the abs even there?

[01:20:54]>> [laughter] >> And that's what I think a lot of these young men go through.

[01:20:59]Because they think that these models, these systems, these courses, that these men have created is actually what got them their success. Meanwhile, half of them are renting, they don't own anything.

[01:21:11]And they're all they're doing is using your money. They're using your money to look rich. They're using your money to rent the Lambo. They're using your money to hire women to hang around them.

[01:21:23]I'm not saying none of them have girlfriends and wives. I'm just saying that some some of these people are just there because it's like, hey, he's willing to pay me a little bit for my time, hang out, act like I'm with them.

[01:21:37]And it's tough because how do you expect this kid to understand what a fraud this person is?

[01:21:48]Meanwhile, never mind all the harm that's being done to girls and women, not just from the rhetoric, but like actually going out, taking this advice, taking this advice from like confidence coaches, dating coaches and everything, and applying it in the real world.

[01:22:06]That's really ruining someone else's day, someone else's life, ruining real relationships.

[01:22:14]And these people take no responsibility for it. When you ask them up up front, straight up, what do you think about the people who actually take everything that you're saying? They don't think it's a troll. They don't think that you're joking. It's not satire to them. They're young men that want the things you say you can get them, and then they act the way that you act in their everyday life around the people that they know.

[01:22:37]What do you think of that?

[01:22:39]And all these guys will say, "Well, it's a parent's responsibility. They shouldn't be watching me."

[01:22:45]Well, but meanwhile, you're doing what you're doing, and you're making money off of them.

[01:22:54]Like trying to quit manosphere stuff for for a young man is I can see how it's enticing cuz they're promising you everything.

[01:23:07]It's a lot like having a pimp.

[01:23:11]>> [laughter] >> No, it's a lot like having a pimp because they take your money.

[01:23:21]And they promise you the world, but they don't really give you anything, and they tell you that they care about you, and they really don't, and you can tell from the way that they treat you.

[01:23:30]And they try to control you.

[01:23:33]And [clears throat] all they're really concerned about is what you do for them.

[01:23:38]And so it takes it takes a real community around you. I think community is what some of those boys are seeking even if even if they don't say it exactly like that. You'll find that like half of them, even the influencers, but also the young men they influence, half of them barely believe the stuff they say. They just like having other guys around.

[01:24:01]They just like having some semblance of friendship, you know?

[01:24:05]And it takes it takes a relentless amount of addressing to get someone to break away from something like that.

[01:24:18]You know? Cuz when you're in the middle of being indoctrinated, you don't really feel indoctrinated. You feel at home.

[01:24:25]That's That's the scariest part about it.

[01:24:28]But I I'm I hope that more and more people can see, whether it's from the documentary or in everyday life, that these guys are not selling anything worthwhile. And they actually aren't even selling anything that they really live by cuz once again, when you talk to the people in their lives, they're like, "Oh, he's a different guy in front of the cameras than he is at home."

[01:24:48]So, all these people are pretending to be a guy that real young men are chasing to have a life that nobody has. You watch the documentary, and I know it's about the manosphere, so you have to talk about the men who are part of the manosphere, and you have to talk about the men who are influenced by it.

[01:25:07]>> [clears throat and snorts] >> But it still has the it still has the general issue of always focusing on the person that does the damage rather than the people that are affected by their damage. You know?

[01:25:20]Yeah, and I and I think that I I think that for me when [snorts] I look at when I look at some of these people I see a version of myself that could have gone another way if I'd been born in a different time.

[01:25:36]If I didn't understand and I and I didn't have people around me that were that were those mentors because one of the saddest bits of irony is that some of the top dogs of this of this manosphere where they're telling young boys how to be men had no man in their life or they had an abusive one.

[01:25:55]And so, you're seeing cycles of damage become spirals where every wrong is a bigger than the one that came before it.

[01:26:07]And cuz it's easy to just attack one person as a as a charlatan, but then overall, a lot of them are saying some of the same things. And so, even if they fall out of favor with one of them, there's still like nine guys to take their place. It's got to be tough, but it's important to learn how to adapt and open your mind up so that one day you can push them DOWN A HILL.

[01:26:39]ALL RIGHT.

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