Africans Don’t Want To Be African, But Everyone Else Needs to Be? | Diaspora Theory

Added: 2026-05-05

[00:00:00]And y'all need to do a better job at gatekeeping your own stuff cuz you have to walk around saying you're a black African to differentiate yourself from the Afrikaners. How the Afrikaners don't violate your logic? Okay, it doesn't violate your logic to call the French, the German, and the Dutch literally whitey people. It doesn't violate your logic to call them Afrikaners, but it will violate your logic for West Indian to say they're West Indian and not say they're African. It doesn't violate your logic for nobody else, but all of a sudden when it gets to this this section over here. That's why I said earlier the pushback isn't out of moral outrage.

[00:00:32]It's out of discomfort that you cannot cos play, that you cannot pretend to be someone you're not because it is a value to you. It is a come up for you to be able to call yourself Jamaican. It is a come up for you to be able to to different to complete yourself with black Americans. We have all the proof.

[00:00:51]Tyler got up here saying she want to be Rihanna 2.0. Not Goapele. We love Goapele. Who don't love the song Closer?

[00:00:58]She a whole separate She came up here saying she want to be Rihanna 2.0, okay?

[00:01:02]A whole Bajan. A whole African said she want to be a whole Bajan, okay? And then you have Shabooya doing a whole black American genre. He don't He does not up there doing Afrobeats. A whole black American genre. Y'all come up as pretending to be everybody you not.

[00:01:15]That's why exploring our ancestry is uncomfortable for you because not because not because we're distancing ourselves from Africa, it's because it widens the gap for your ability to be able to pretend to be someone you're not. And during the few moments that we have left we want to have just an off-the-cuff chat between you and me. You could be FBA if that's what you want to be, but don't like just necessarily have to discount your brothers and sisters that are going through the fight and we have one common denominator which is the white man.

[00:01:50]Excuse me, I'm French. I don't mean to say that, but not all white people, but the the rich white people. That's who we should be directing our angst and our and our and our aggression towards. Not towards Caribbean people. Not towards African people. Not towards Myrie. Not towards the Indians. Not towards the people that have been colonized and pushed down by European countries. We got to We got to think about this. Europeans are the ones that split us up, divided us, made us all, you know, think that we're all different and we're not. We're all the same people.

[00:02:25]We're all the same people.

[00:02:27]Leave with love. That's all I'm saying.

[00:02:29]I'mma leave it at that. Love all of y'all.

[00:02:33]Okay, dokey. Um I just find it odd how when people want to explore the depth and the totality of their person and how they came to be, how that's by default interpreted by interpreted as being malicious, interpreted as not leading with love, inter by default that's interpreted as a slight to someone else.

[00:03:05]That's what I find interesting. And acknowledging the totality of my lineage does not discredit any reality of having African DNA if that so much is the case.

[00:03:20]But the fact is that when we have these conversations each and every single time there is at least one person that wants to illegitimize the fact that the conversation's even happening. So at what point can we talk about this? At what point is it not taboo? At what point can I can people just look at the totality of themselves? And like I said, we're we're a whole different story than anybody else on on planet Earth. Okay, we're a whole different story as far as finding the depth of our lineages and our ancestry. We're a whole different story. So we do need We do need to compare notes a little bit. We do need to to look a little bit deeper. We do need to look at things with a different perspective than any other group of people on planet Earth can do.

[00:04:02]And so I just find it odd how it's interpreted as a slight to someone else all while especially when you want to put Africans in the conversation and say, "Oh, we we all the same people."

[00:04:13]They not the same people over there.

[00:04:16]So it's like why do I What do I owe to Africans? One, that part. What do I owe to Africans at all? Even a little bit. I owe nothing to Africans. They don't see each other as the same people. And so that's why I put that question is African reductive because there's also there's also this this agenda to try to make everyone this flat identity. And I feel like there are a lot of people who happen to be black. A lot of people think they could take white supremacist ideologies, flip it on its head, and put a blackface on it and say it's good now because it's a blackface on it. Being intolerant of different groups of people is a whitey supremacist ideology. Not being tolerant of different groups of people is whitey supremacist ideology.

[00:05:01]Saying that we all have to be the same or else by default I see you as an enemy is tribalistic and whitey's an a cousin of whitey supremacist ideology.

[00:05:10]By default, if you're not the same as me, then I have to interpret you as a threat. That's tribalistic AF.

[00:05:18]A to the F. Ain't nobody talking about ransacking your village. Ain't nobody talking about doing harm against you.

[00:05:24]Ain't nobody talking about none of that.

[00:05:26]But just having the conversation by default is interpreted as a slight to someone else. I'mma leave that one there cuz I do want to do open panel. Yeah, Jay.

[00:05:36]Jay, what is your ethnicity and what country you live in? I'm in the US.

[00:05:41]I'm black. And um I did take the Ancestry DNA test as well like 10 years ago.

[00:05:48]Um my issue with it is the fallacious framing of the test because first of all it says ethnicity estimates. But then if you look it goes on to list modern nation states such as Nigeria, right?

[00:06:00]Even though Nigeria has over 300 ethnic groups alone in that in that modern nation state. So how could you be 30% Nigerian? That would be like me saying I'm 20% American. It doesn't It's totally bogus.

[00:06:12]So they have that. But then I think the more of the issue is is that um you have I mean ethnicity itself is a is a human construct. So as I was pointing out in the comments every ethnic group determines They have They have their own customs for determining who's in and who's out of their group. Some people say, "Well, if your father is this ethnic group, you're part of that ethnic group no matter what you look like, no matter what the mix you are, right?" You know, we I have I I on other lines we have people that are from Somalia, they trace it based on the father. So that's their criteria. Other groups may say it's based on what your mother is. If you you know, you go by that. So I think the issue is you have other people coming in and trying to say, "Oh, no, no, no, no, no. We want to change the rule. We want to say that whatever your your DNA is, that's what you are." But they are prescribing that they're just deciding as a rule when that's that's just a made-up rule. How do who you know what I mean? That's the issue, but they're trying to pretend that's somehow some type of scientific thing when it's not.

[00:07:05]You You feel me? Like they just They're coming in and trying to tell you that this is how this should be interpreted, but the reality is that you cannot mix a social construct with something that has to do with nature. Nature is descriptive. We go in and we we we observe and then we come up with theories for what is happening.

[00:07:25]Peo- Humans when they start creating these groups and these boundaries, we are coming in and we're deciding how things ought to be. And I think that's the confusion here when we look at these Ancestry tests. And you know, you have people saying, "Oh, well, if you have this percentage of DNA, therefore you're African" or some other nonsense. I mean, you already pointed out that Africa is a geographical term. It's not an ethnicity. It's not a you know, not a religion. It's not a language. So even that the way even that whole way of talking is already fallacious in and of itself. It doesn't point to identity.

[00:07:59]And you know, if if if you want your if you feel that not you personally, but I'm just saying in general if someone feels that DNA should be the criteria for determining ethnicity, you know, I I tell them good luck with that. If that's what you want, fine. But that's not the way the world is.

[00:08:16]Yeah. I concur. 100% 100% and there was even I saw this video sometime back um I don't know what she What she Nigerian?

[00:08:26]She was in some some some West African country, but she's a first gen, right?

[00:08:30]But she was basically spilling the tea on how Africans view black people when they come to America and she was addressing how black Americans in particular were saying, you know, how Africans would act as though you they don't even ex- You don't even exist and they would just stay to themselves and they saw themselves as different, right? It didn't matter that we were all classified as black. It didn't matter that we all possess melanin, right? And she was kind of addressing that. And so she said in the video that from where they're coming from they base their identity and personhood around their tribe. Like for them to look at you and be like, "Oh, we're the same people." you have to be from the same tribe. So for me when Now when they come over here and when the truth starts getting inconvenient and they want to change the story, it's like all your life all your history you've been going by this rule, right? Like you said, if the father is this, that's your ethnicity. If if if this is your tribe, then that's your ethnicity. Now you want to change all the rules when the truth inconvenient for you, when people who you have been trying to cos play, i.e. y'all black Americans, when they can't say they're Jamaican and Antiguan and Saint Lucian anymore. They came into this country being everything but African, right? But making all these distinctions around our identities makes it difficult for them to be able to do those things, right?

[00:10:01]So, this isn't even a discussion about whether or not your you feel offended that this is an abomination to your like ancestral esteem cuz Africans don't even want to be Africans. Like I said, they came in came in here being everything but African. Okay? They came in here being everything but African. If Africans cared about being African, there wouldn't be a bleaching epidemic, okay?

[00:10:23]If Africans cared about being African, their parents wouldn't be encouraging their offspring to procreate with white tea people, okay? If Africans cared about being African, y'all would be calling yourselves African Brits and not black British, okay? If Africans cared about being African, you wouldn't come into this country saying you everything but African, okay?

[00:10:43]So, this isn't about how how people are trying to distance themselves from African and you find it as a moral outrage, okay? The their expression toward their their backlash to anyone trying to define themselves outside of African identity is not based on moral outrage. It's based on their discomfort from being able to do what they've been doing all this time, and that is pretending to be everyone they're not because that is their come up and means of survival in the Western Hemisphere.

[00:11:14]But, let me just say this to land, okay?