Women's increasing focus on higher education and career building, particularly delaying childbirth until their 30s, contributes to declining birth rates due to biological factors (reduced fertility after 35) and societal pressures that prioritize professional success over traditional motherhood roles.
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Because of a hundred years of feminist propaganda from people like you and Taylor Swift and Beyonce and Kamala Harris.
No, I'm saying now we have this problem because women like you and I heard you say on and I take major issue with this.
You somebody finally pulled it out of you in the dating talk podcast that you do look down on women like me who don't have a degree and aren't in the workforce having career. You said look if you if all you do you said you don't feel that women who don't have their own money and career and all this stuff.
That you I dare you to like I I don't have cash but I guess we could talk about that. You didn't say you look down on them but you said you did not consider them successful like you or something like that.
Do you remember saying is in Brian's hypothetical fun thing that he does on every podcast where he's like oh, do you think women should on the first time that they're over at my house cook and clean and do laundry for them. Do you think you should women should do that and I'm like no, that's ridiculous. And most people that listen to that know it's freaking ridiculous and women that do say yeah, you know, I would totally like first time over a guy's house do his laundry.
Yes, I do believe those women It started that way but eventually through the course of the conversation you basically said Outside of that parameter that is a >> [laughter] >> Okay, I'll just take your your word for that So so women so we've established that the fact of what's actually true is that women are not not having children because the men are too weak. They need to up their game. They need to be better leaders. They need more testosterone.
The men are lacking and that's why the women aren't having babies. The women aren't having babies because they go to college and they build careers first and they delay their first child until they're 30s and if you do that there's a whole bunch of reasons why that doesn't work. The first is you're already past the majority of your fertility window. After 35, even with IVF, the odds of conceiving just go down drastically every year. That's a biological fact. The second thing is when you build your life around this idea that you have to have goals and be successful and you've spent all your life, everything you're doing is towards your career for that purpose, women find it extremely hard to flip a switch and suddenly be a mom and a stay-at-home mom or like dedicate their lives to something outside themselves, which is what our duty is.
>> So, Rachel, it is statistical fact and you can look this up that women with higher education degrees have lower rates of divorce. So, since I am pro-marriage and pro-successful marriage, not just get married all willy-nilly, that is why I do believe it's a good thing that women have education. And it makes sense, right? You know, you are educated and therefore you want to establish yourself before starting a family so that it is something that is strong. But wait, didn't you say you're against women going to college? Didn't you say when? At the beginning. I said we something about college and you said I agree, I think college is a scam, too.
I think you shouldn't go unless you're getting a STEM degree. Yeah, that's true.
>> women get STEM degrees? How How do those two things How are they actually related?
>> think women should go to college and get an education. Uh-huh, it's >> Okay, but isn't college a scam? Unless you're going for a STEM degree, yes.
>> a STEM degree? Uh, no. Okay.
>> And I got lucky.
>> what Do you know what percentage of STEM degrees are earned by women? It's like 20%.
>> because I'm not telling people to do something that I'm an exception for.
>> Well, I didn't even accuse you of hypocrisy. I'm just saying most women don't go for STEM. The vast majority 80% of women's degrees are liberal arts nonsense.
>> of them, yes, but still So, why would we push that? The fact still stands that the more education, formal education, women have, the lower the divorce rate.
But, do you think that that's But, let's address that. Let's address that. Cuz you think that >> want people to not get divorced?
>> think you need college to not get divorced?
>> No, I'm just saying that there's that correlation. Correlation.
I That A correlation doesn't equal a cause. So, telling women telling women to go to college because you have a lower chance of getting divorced would be That would be like the ice cream problem. Have you ever heard of the ice cream problem? No, you're saying women aren't having kids because they're going to college.
>> Yes, and they're focused on career and building careers. Cuz we tell them, "If you're smart and successful, this is what you're going to do. And if you're a stay-at-home mom, you're a loser and you're lame and you're you're going to get abused. You're going to be vulnerable." But, when I have daughters, I am absolutely going to tell them, "You need to have something of value that you can depend on because because you can't just basically put yourself up as somebody that is dependent on neither the government nor another person."
Right? So, yes, I would absolutely tell boys and girls, "Set yourself up for life in whichever way you see fit." be getting a STEM degree in college. It could be going to a vocation school, doing some kind of trade, business, whatever. Absolutely establish yourself before coming into a relationship with somebody else. And if you do decide to be >> What do you mean by that, though? And if you do Establish yourself? Do you have to have like a 401k? Do you have to have a savings? What do you have to have?
Some kind of Just any old job? Some Yeah, some kind of way for you to be able to to depend on yourself. God forbid the worst happens, you know, >> Okay, but who who can't do that? Do you know the average jobs are that people work? The average person makes For women it's like 40K a year, for men it's like 60K a year. Okay, most of us have like basic ass jobs that we can get straight out of high school. I did that. I didn't need to go to college and get into debt, which is the other big problem. Women come Women come out No.
It's the same thing now. Yes, it is. It is the same thing now. The thing The jobs that are in demand are not liberal arts degrees. In fact, there's a ton of data showing that if you have liberal arts degrees, you have the hardest time finding a job because you don't have practical skills. And employers don't even want that anymore and they look for people who try to start businesses. They look for people who are self-starters, smart, self-educated. I'm debating you today with nothing but a cosmetology license. Fantastic. And I agree that having degrees does not change facts and having a title does not make for any kind of an argument. I'm not here So, if you can get a retail management job by the time you're 21, why can't you get married and start having kids? Sure. You know, what I'm saying is that having kids and being a stay-at-home mom, obviously very valuable. It does take you out of the workforce and if you were to get back in it, then it'd make it a lot more difficult. So, if women decide to be stay-at-home moms, they need some kind of protection, agreement, guarantee before marriage with the husband to make sure that the kids, primarily, are taken care of.
God forbid the worst happens, which is a split or a divorce. So, that is what I'm saying. I'm just being a logical, reasonable person and I'd prescribe the same thing for men, you know. You're not being logical and you're not being reasonable and we're going to figure this out together, okay? So, how How are we going to combat birth rates dropping like a rock and tell women you need to have your own money, you need to have a fail-safe, you need to have a backup plan. You can't really leave the job market because if you do, it makes it really hard to get back in.
>> on solutions, right? For this country, let's focus on this country at the very least. It's the one we care about. Um I think [clears throat] it'd be very helpful for women and men in this country if we weren't importing the third world or filling jobs that Americans can fill. Yeah, why do we have to do that? Do you know why? Because we're not having babies. And if the women were having babies, we wouldn't have to import our entire labor force from the third world. Yes. But you We don't need more psychology majors. We don't need more retail workers. And that's why they're doing it racially.
>> have a labor shortage. That's real.
That's a real thing. We have a serious Not just us, almost the whole world.
>> We don't have >> We're experiencing a birth rate collapse and it's created labor shortages and it's created supply chain problems.
>> women want to have kids if, you know, we're [snorts] in if they know that the market for the kids when they do get born, they're not going to have the same opportunities they had growing up because we've got shitty politicians that are importing people from all over the world >> women are having babies because shitty politicians are allowing too many immigrants. Uh that's a big >> Is there any point at which it's the women's choices to shirk their duty to have children? Are we ever going to hold the women accountable and say, "Maybe the values are wrong. Maybe Maybe the women should say, 'You know what? I think it's a really valuable thing to produce another generation to keep this beautiful, wonderful world that I get to enjoy going.'" Beautiful concept and I agree with it. However, >> talk about what men should do. Why won't we talk about what women should do?
>> Women should also, again, contribute to their society. They should >> There's one thing we need women to do more of and it's have babies. We don't need more media girls. We we need more psychology majors. We don't need more retail workers. Rachel, how do you convince women to to have more kids?
>> Well, I'll tell you. Please.
>> So, in a famous Yeah.
>> famous interview in the 19 Well, you can't you got to fix the whole system.
That's the point. You can't You can't fix the entire world. Oh, you don't have to fix the whole world. I'm going to tell you Yeah.
>> Okay, I'll tell you if you can just listen. Sure. In the '70s, Betty Friedan and Simone de Beauvoir had a famous interview where Simone said, "I think the problem is that we give women the option to stay home." I'm paraphrasing, but she said, "I don't think the world should be that way at all. I think that if we give that option, too many women will choose it and that's not how society will run." I agree with her and I believe that. I think if women have the option to stay home, that they would. I think if they had the opportunity to be mothers and be and be happy with being wives, mothers, having their sisters around them,
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