AMERICAN Christian DEBATER Admits "Jesus LIED"?! (Shocking Concession)

Added: 2026-05-11

[00:00:00]So Jesus said that he doesn't know, but he does know?

[00:00:07]Yes, because at the time like he says he allows himself not to know at that time.

[00:00:12]>> [singing] >> Can you be God and not know something?

[00:00:27]>> [snorts] >> Um no, not in the sense of cognitive knowledge, no. Good.

[00:00:33]According to the Bible did Jesus say that he doesn't know the hour?

[00:00:39]In a specific sense, yeah.

[00:00:41]What sense?

[00:00:43]>> [snorts] >> Declarative knowledge that he does not make known the hour.

[00:00:47]So he doesn't declare it, right?

[00:00:50]Yes.

[00:00:51]So only the Father can declare.

[00:00:54]Yes, only the Father makes known the day and the hour.

[00:00:59]So why do we when we read Revelation, we see that the angels are declaring the hour?

[00:01:05]>> [snorts] >> The hour of what?

[00:01:08]The hour of the Son of Man coming.

[00:01:10]You show me that?

[00:01:12]Revelation 14:6-7.

[00:01:15]You read it.

[00:01:17]14:6-7 you said?

[00:01:19]Yep.

[00:01:20]Revelation, let me pull it up.

[00:01:23]Okay, there we go.

[00:01:25]So then I saw another Oh, wait.

[00:01:33]Then I saw another angel in the midst of heaven having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth, to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people saying with a loud voice, "Fear God and give glory to him for the hour of his judgment has come and worship him who made heaven and earth, the sea, and springs of water."

[00:01:49]Right.

[00:01:50]>> [clears throat] >> Okay.

[00:01:52]Yeah, so are they declaring the hour according to Revelation?

[00:01:57]No, all they're saying is the hour of judgment has come.

[00:02:00]What? So so they're saying that the hour has come.

[00:02:03]So is that declaring the hour?

[00:02:07]Yeah, this is specifically going to be because in this sense when he when John is receiving this Wait, hold on. Hold on. Are they declaring for example the match start the match the there's a football match and it started and I'm like, hey by the way, the football match has started.

[00:02:23]Am I declaring the Am I declaring that that the the the time of the football match?

[00:02:30]You're just saying it has already started. You're not saying it'll happen at that point. Brother They're saying that the hour has come.

[00:02:38]Wait, they're saying that the the hour has come. That's not the same as them saying um this is the time of the day or the hour. This is when the day or the hour will happen. That's what it says in Mark 13:32.

[00:02:49]>> Brother, it's saying that the hour has come meaning this is the hour, man. What are you talking about?

[00:02:55]That doesn't mean they said when the hour is going to come, bro. What? Bro bro hold on hold on hold on.

[00:03:01]The train has come. Hold on.

[00:03:04]Hold on. No, let's go back to Mark 13.

[00:03:05]Hold hold on, my friend. Relax.

[00:03:09]If I if I'm saying the train has come am I declaring and am I saying that the train has come or no?

[00:03:16]Yeah, you're saying that the train has come. Yes. Okay, good. If the angels are saying the hour has come are they declaring and saying that the hour has come? Yes or no?

[00:03:25]Yes, they're saying that the hour has come. Are they declaring the day of the hour?

[00:03:30]Yes, because that they're saying the HOUR HAS COME.

[00:03:34]>> [laughter] >> ALL RIGHT, BRO.

[00:03:40]>> [laughter] >> YEAH.

[00:03:44]BROTHER, WHAT THE WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?

[00:03:50]OKAY, HE DID HE say that he doesn't he doesn't declare it?

[00:03:55]Yeah, sure. I would say that he Okay, so if you take your interpretation, then you have a contradiction because only the Father can declare, according to you. But right now, you're declaring, right? Because you're saying that the angels declare. But the verse, if you take your interpretation, right, we're going to come down to the conclusion that only the Father can declare.

[00:04:15]But this is going to result to a contradiction because the angels are declaring.

[00:04:20]So now, do you take Do you take back that understanding?

[00:04:23]Or do you still have that understanding?

[00:04:28]Uh sure, I would retract it for the sake of the argument.

[00:04:31]Okay, good. So if you take it back, then the the the alternative Hold on. Then the alternative is that that verse means to know, correct?

[00:04:44]Uh yeah, but specifically it's going to be like if I show you from Mark 13 that he knows If you If I show you from Mark 13 that he knows, where you can see Nice.

[00:04:53]What about Look, for example, I'll give an example.

[00:04:55]>> Can I show you from Mark 13 that he knows? But But uh wait. Wait. Let's say every But uh wait, man.

[00:05:01]Let's say every verse says Jesus knows, Jesus knows, Jesus knows, Jesus knows.

[00:05:05]And you have Mark 24:36 says that he doesn't know.

[00:05:09]Does that mean >> Mark 24:36?

[00:05:12]Yes, that's the verse I'm quoting. Mark 24:36?

[00:05:16]>> so the So Yeah, the only thing you would have >> Yes.

[00:05:21]What is Mark 24 Can you find me Mark 24?

[00:05:24]>> 24. Matthew 24. Matthew 24:36. Right, if you if you get it from if you get it from Matthew 24:36, that he doesn't know, right?

[00:05:35]And the only thing you would have is a contradiction.

[00:05:38]You wouldn't have the fact that Jesus knows. You wouldn't have that. You would have a contradiction within your scriptures.

[00:05:45]That's all we're saying.

[00:05:47]So you're showing me you're showing me without solving this wouldn't prove your point.

[00:05:53]You're showing me you're just going to be like, "Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah." I'm just showing you a contradiction because I couldn't resolve this verse he doesn't know. Going to the other verse he knows.

[00:06:00]Okay, cool. Now what?

[00:06:04]Well, I just say when he's talking about him not knowing, this is just going to be him saying like, "Of course, I'm going to be able to 236 is going to argue that when he says that he doesn't know, he's just going to he's going to allow himself not to know for that time because remember he's trying to teach his disciples that they're not meant to know and they're not meant to inquire about the things that belong to the Father."

[00:06:26]So, at that time Jesus didn't know the hour, right?

[00:06:30]He made it He made it appear as if he didn't know the hour just for the sake of the disciples.

[00:06:35]Wait, hold on.

[00:06:36]So, Jesus said that he doesn't know, but he does know?

[00:06:43]Yes, because at that time like he says he allows himself not to know at that time.

[00:06:50]Would you call someone Hold on.

[00:06:53]Would you call someone that knows they have something and they say that they don't have it?

[00:07:04]>> [snorts] >> Well, they could be saying that for a variety of reasons. Like you're just kind of using that like loosely. I don't know what you mean by that. No matter the reason. Whatever the reason is, No, the reason The reason matters. The reason does matter. Wait. Whatever the reason is, I'm asking you what do you call someone who knows that they have X and they say that I [clears throat] don't have X?

[00:07:27]What do you call that person?

[00:07:29]>> [snorts] >> Uh you could say that they're not telling the truth to you. You could say they're deceiving you.

[00:07:37]So, is Jesus deceiving us? They're not telling the truth?

[00:07:40]No, he's just making them he's going to like he's going to be ignorant in the sense of making them ignorant of this hour because they're not meant to know.

[00:07:50]What Jesus said, was it true or false?

[00:07:54]What What do you mean what he said is it true or false? When he said he does not know, is that statement true or false?

[00:08:01]Your your mic cut out for me. Can you say that one more time?

[00:08:04]>> Okay, when he said he does not know, is that statement true or false?

[00:08:09]>> [snorts] >> Um it's going to be true in one sense false in another.

[00:08:14]True in what what sense?

[00:08:16]It's going to be true that he does cognitively know the hour because he has the knowledge of the Father.

[00:08:23]No, no, no, cuz but at the statement I don't know the hour, Uh-huh.

[00:08:27]>> is true in the in the sense that he knows? What are you saying?

[00:08:31]It's going to be true in the sense that he knows cognitively. It's going to be false in the sense that he's not making it known to them that he knows. He's like I said, he's going to allow himself not to know for this reason. You're not looking at the reason cuz you don't want to look at the reason. But uh but uh but uh look, no, no.

[00:08:47]You're You're saying it's And you address the reasoning.

[00:08:52]The The reason does not matter, bro. The guy is saying he does >> Yes, it does. Yes, it does. You're just saying it does not matter. All right, bro.

[00:08:59]Look, look. For example, for example, if I lied if I lied to get more money, right? Am I still a liar, yes or no?

[00:09:07]Yes, you did lie.

[00:09:08]Okay, if God lied for whatever reason, is he still a liar, yes or no?

[00:09:13]>> [snorts] >> If he lied for what?

[00:09:15]Whatever reason, is he still a liar, yes or no?

[00:09:18]If he lied for whatever reason, Mhm.

[00:09:22]Uh yeah, but not all lying is bad.

[00:09:25]Okay. When the Bible says it's impossible for God to lie, >> [snorts] >> lying what way?

[00:09:34]It does not It says it's impossible to lie in any way. What do you mean what way?

[00:09:38]>> he He just said he's not a man that he should lie or he should change his mind.

[00:09:41]>> No, no, I'm not quoting I'm not quoting I'm not quoting numbers.

[00:09:46]Right?

[00:09:46]>> What are you quoting then?

[00:09:47]Okay, I'll give you the verse. It says it's impossible for God to lie.

[00:09:51]It's impossible for God to lie.

[00:09:53]Mhm.

[00:09:59]You think it's impossible for Allah to lie, too, right?

[00:10:01]>> He Hebrews 6:18.

[00:10:03]Okay.

[00:10:07]It says it's impossible for God to lie.

[00:10:10]So, it's either your God is not actually God, Jesus is not God. Hold on. Hold on.

[00:10:16]Hold on. Oh, oh, I don't know, man.

[00:10:19]I'm pulling it up, bro, and pulling it >> Somebody got to be lying, man.

[00:10:25]God lie.

[00:10:27]Wow, man. The Christian God is lying.

[00:10:29]That's crazy.

[00:10:31]I mean, you think that Allah lies in a sense, too, right?

[00:10:34]Christian God is lying, man.

[00:10:36]You know that Allah lies in a sense, right? Yeah, before you run to Allah, you need to figure out your own issue.

[00:10:41]>> No, it's a consistency argument.

[00:10:44]Yeah, you have a topic. You're running from the topic, man. I'm not running from the topic, but I argue that I argue consistency now.

[00:10:49]>> Allah doesn't Allah doesn't lie. Now, tell me >> Yeah, see that. Oh, he doesn't lie. Are you sure?

[00:10:54]Yes, does the verse say that >> Oh, oh, no, no, no, no, no.

[00:10:57]I want to address that claim that you just made.

[00:11:00]Yeah, you want to >> I know it doesn't. I No, I'm not I'm not I'm not going to run. I'm looking at it, right?

[00:11:04]>> so, yeah, go on. Does it say that it's impossible for God to lie?

[00:11:08]Yep.

[00:11:10]It would be good.

[00:11:11]>> Yep.

[00:11:12]So, did Jesus lie?

[00:11:20]Hello.

[00:11:22]Did Jesus lie?

[00:11:26]Oh.

[00:11:30]Hello.

[00:11:32]Did lie?

[00:11:37]Can you hear him, Moses?

[00:11:40]Uh-oh.

[00:11:43]>> [laughter] >> Oh, man.

[00:11:50]No, like I said, he's just trying to >> [clears throat and cough] [snorts] >> He's just trying to Did Jesus lie?

[00:11:58]No.

[00:12:00]All right, [snorts] bro. Back it up, man.

[00:12:04]Today, I WANT TO DECLARE WITHOUT EQUIVOCATION EQUIVOCATION. SORRY, PLEASE.

[00:12:10]>> YES. DECLARE. Declare it again. Damn, bro. Damn.

[00:12:16]He said he lied in a sense. Show them the verse that it's impossible for God to lie. Says no.

[00:12:22]He didn't lie. And we have to go back to the to the other conversation that we were having before.

[00:12:28]What are we doing, bro?

[00:12:31]What are we doing, man? What are we doing, Christians, bro?

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