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Born queens and gentle xenos coming to you live from Rick Priestly. palatial mention. This is the number one Xenos [ __ ] show on the internet, the Creature Conference. And here is your host, Mr. Ping.
Thank you, voice of the Creature Conference, the uh the the the physical embodiment of chaos known as Symbio Joe for doing that intro for us. I am your host, Modern Synthesist, otherwise known as Mr. Pink. Pinky if you're freaky. I'm here with my co-host, Flyn. Flynn Hammer want to say hello.
>> Hello everybody.
>> Hello. Hello. And this is the number one Xenos [ __ ] show on the internet, the Creature Conference. We are happy to see you this evening. Um Oh, great. Raidon's here. Hey, Raidon. I apologize for scheduling this like 15 minutes before it went live, but uh yeah, that's the kind of day I was having. Um and we're hoping to be joined by Hydra. Uh he has not shown up yet, but he gave us he promised he was going to be here. Um, and excited that today we get to kick off the celebration of all things Jean Steeler that we do every June. June Steeler.
Uh, so that's what I've got up. I pulled up the uh the title card. I'm I'm extremely proud of this title card that I made for this stream.
>> So, I just, you know, wanted to share it. There's some cool I think we previewed the uh the worm form logo that Will and Hydra worked together on previously, but this is the final version of it that Hydro was working on on our last stream. And in the background, there's certain sneaky little figures which we're going to get into in more detail, but um Lynhammer, every time we start one of these streams, we're supposed to do a thing.
We always forget to do it. I'm remembering to do it this time. Can you please tell us what part of Rick Priestley's palatial mansion are we coming to everyone live from this week?
>> Coming fly from his king-size bed because I am absolutely exhausted from the in the >> Wait, did you know that me and Nora just got a king-sized bed or did you just pull that out of your ass?
>> Yes, I am a beneficus.
>> Did I tell you that or no? You just are you just like psychic? Okay, cool.
>> I am a big brain boy.
>> Okay, cool. Cool. Um All right. Uh yeah, we're coming to you live from Rick Priestley's uh king-size bed. I swear to God, there is no Sleneshy business going on. We're just we're just we're just chatting in this king-size bed. Nothing sexy is going on. Anyway, uh yeah. Oh, Tom Olson is here, too.
Hello, Tom. Welcome. While we're killing time, waiting for Hydra to show up, uh I'm gonna get this card out of here. Uh I had some uh slightly, you know, it some might describe it as cult adjacent activities in the last two weeks in that uh I made sure to insize myself with a it's not a cult sigil uh that will, you know, remain with me for the rest of my life. I got a new tattoo and u because it might show up in the stream, I figured I should show it off. I actually just took the the bandage off of it um just the other day and I'm sharing it with you guys because you guys are my real friends. But uh this is a tattoo I got to commemorate my father who passed away last year uh May of 2025. He was an engine marine consulting engineer. He inspected bridges and dams and [ __ ] >> but once in his life he designed a dam.
Um, and this is the dam that he designed, which is pretty damn cool. He he didn't get to design very many bridges or dams. Um, and he was very proud of this one. So, uh, uh, the artist did amazing job with it. And then the passage on the outside is from the epic of Gilgamesh, which is, "The joyful will stoop with sorrow, and when you have gone to the earth, I will let my hair grow long for your sake. I will wander through the wilderness in the skin of a lion." So that's um there's a passage about I used to call him Incadoo but then I saw the like clip of Jean Luke Bard talking about the epic of Gilgamesh and he called him Enkidu or something like that. It was really weird. Uh so this is when Gilgamesh is mourning the death of Incadoo, his wide his wild man from the from the woods that he hung out with. Anyway, uh yeah.
So that's that's my uh that's my tattoo.
It's the biggest tattoo I've ever gotten. took nine hours, but I'm pretty happy with it.
>> I've already thought of a plan in my head and Tom Wilson's already posted in chat, but damn, it's cool tattoo.
>> Thanks, dude.
Dudes in general. Uh, yeah, I'm glad you guys like it. I I'm the artist. I initially had planned the passage was the main thing that I wanted to get tattooed and I was going to like have the passage running like this right through the middle of my arm because it was the most important part and I thought he could do like a like some kind of blueprint or something behind this and then I sent him pictures of the dam and he did this rendering and then he like faded out this part of it and had the letters running through it and I was like okay that that's too beautiful. I can't hide that behind the lettering. We got to like have that fully >> showing. So, uh, he revised it to put the lettering on the outside, and I think it's pretty cool.
Uh, okay. Uh, while we're killing time, waiting for Hydra to show up, and because I l I recently went through all the folders on my computer and um organized all this stuff, I thought that it might be fun to go through like the past June Steeler logos just cuz I have them. You you down, Flynn?
>> Oh, yeah. I love the old.
>> So, here's a little here's a little trip down memory lane. So, fitting that Hydra helped us design this year's Juneer logo because when we first started Juneer in 2021, it wasn't called Juneeler 2021. It was just called Junealer and Hydra handdrew this logo for us or this this Genesteeler silhouette for us in pencil on paper and that was our logo for 2021. Um, there was, do I have it here?
Uh, these all Photoshop files. Uh, there there was like a secondary kind of design that um, [ __ ] Giraffe did for us, but I don't Wait, no. Oh, maybe I do.
>> Oh, no. [ __ ] Giraffe was doing a load of >> It was like a background sort of thing.
>> Kai Jun as well, but he kind of merged it and he had a little logo for his Juneer ones.
>> Yeah, he did some Junealer stuff. So, he did, let's go with this one. I like it better. Uh, he did this kind of >> looks like a I think Blitz is going to be in. Uh, he did this kind of like um stained glass looking June Steeler thing as if there was like a June Steeler um I don't know, church or something.
>> Church.
>> Yeah. So, that that was kind of cool.
That was like to >> I don't know. I don't remember how I got him to do that or like >> what inspired that.
That was that was cool. I just delete but it's not at our official logo.
Can't delete. It's fantastic.
Remove. Yes, I want to remove. Okay. So, that's 2021. Uh, so June Steeler has been going on for five years now.
Right.
Is this the sixth?
>> This is This is the sixth year, >> right? Thank you. Okay. So, uh, 2022 we had Oh, our boy Vermis who want Oh jeez, these are very Who once won, uh, June Sealer the art category for doing like almost a sketch.
Oh, damn it. Almost a sketch a day, which was pretty cool.
>> Yeah, >> when Vermis did that. So, Vermis created this very, sorry, giving me trouble. Uh, Vermis created this really cool um, June sealer logo for us. Very sneaky looking with some beady little red eyes there. Uh, I This is to this day one of my favorites. Um, it's so cool. It's so simple but so effective. I don't Flynn, do you remember the Because 2023, you're going to know the theme right away. But do we have a theme for 2022 or do we just We're just going to do June. It's going to be girl >> anything but cults.
>> Really?
>> Miners.
>> Do you have it written down or you just remember?
>> No, cuz I remember the first year we had no theme. Then it was anything but miners.
>> Oh yes. Okay.
>> Because it was just starting to be a bit like let's have a theme, but let's make it like cuz everyone just has like the normal Oh, I'm going to buy the stuff like the normal kits.
>> You're going to make some more Gene Steeler miners.
>> Yeah. cuz we wanted to do like the whole cuz I remember Hydra drew the aristocratic family uh family portrait one.
>> Oh yeah, good memory, buddy. I totally forgot about that.
>> Yeah.
>> Um >> then it >> then it was Zenos hybrids.
>> Hold on. Don't spoil Oh, yeah. Okay, I've got it up now. Yes. Uh and then 2023 uh another Hydra original. Um the reality is that we've got some very talented artists in the community. Okay.
>> And they are keen to help out which we're gonna see a little more of this time. Sorry, Flynn.
>> Great story about the this actual logo as well.
>> So we were talking about ideas for it like >> at the end of one of the streams and Hydra knocked us out within an hour like the line drawing and everything.
>> Did he do it on stream like he or no he just did it? He did it in the in the like an hour afterwards. We were >> uh me, him, I think it was Symbio. We're just having a chat >> afterwards.
>> Yeah.
>> And he just knocked it out. He just drew it then and there and we were just that me I think I'm not 100% sure if it was symbio just obviously three years ago, >> but we were just watching just just drawing and we're like >> how have you drawn this in the whole thing? And it was that whole idea. So, Hydra is the single most efficient lobbyist I know. As long as you have a deadline, if you have something happening tomorrow, like hour for hour, he will create better art than any other person on the planet. But he's not going to paint a Golden Demon entry for 6 months because that's not a pressing enough deadline. So, uh, I greatly admire the man and especially his capacity to crank out solid hits in 3.2 seconds. Uh, not to throw him under the bus, but he's not here and he doesn't watch these streams after the fact, so he's never going to hear this. Um, he started sending me art for like the part B of this year, which I'm going to get into. Um, and I'm fully expecting he only started sending it to me because I sent him pictures of art that Will was doing for part B of June Steeler this year. And he was like, "Oh [ __ ] I guess I got to do that." So then he started like firing me through sketches.
>> So as long as we got a deadline, he's going to destroy anyone else who's who's competing with them. Um, speaking of Hydra, we got So, like I said, we have a lot of really talented artists in the community and sometimes we're absolutely spoiled by them, which happened in 2024 when um, for a while there uh, Desande, member of the community, was creating uh, graphics for us and he was going even more rogue than Hydra where he would just start doing something without like anyone having to ask him and he'd just be like, "Okay, yeah, yeah, I've created like a design for this." I'm like, "Oh, we didn't even really talk about it. We didn't even really agree on like what the design could possibly be." So, he's another unstoppable artist. And he So, in 2024, we technically I don't know that we technically had two logos, but something like two logos.
>> So, I remember So, >> so the Sorry. So, let's let's reiterate 2022 the logo was anything but minors.
the so any cultists that don't use standard gene sealer miners from games workshop 2023 was uh nonhuman >> hybrids >> Zenos hybrids yes so make your gene sealers hybrids based on a different creature than a human because most gene sealers are based on human stock >> 2024 Flynn what was our uh what was our theme right there cults in the movies >> oh [ __ ] you're right it's right there included it in his design sorry >> so Hydra actually originally started drawing his one first and we were like we kind want to change up the artist so not have the same artist every year.
>> Oh, is that how it happened?
>> Yeah. Then that's how Desande was also doing his one at the same time.
>> But Desand did he did our 2023 Nidvember, right? And he did our 2022 Nidber. There's the man.
>> Hello, Mr. Hydra. Welcome.
>> Yeah.
>> Hello.
>> Was at that point you wanted to change it all up.
>> Come again, Flynn. What was that?
>> It was at that point because you said we have had do the last two and then everything else. We wanted to change up who actually was doing the art.
>> Yes.
>> So we weren't using the same person each time.
>> I feel like an idiot because like when an amazing artist comes to you and goes, "Hey, I drew something for," you're supposed to go, "Thank you, sir. May I please have another?"
>> But um I I do like making sure that we have like a range of different folks represented and styles represented. Um, but anyway, so 2024 we So Simon, just to catch you up, we're going we're doing a magical tour through our our history of June Steeler logos.
>> Oh, nice.
>> And talking about how you seem to do one every other year or something like >> might be the case. Yes.
>> So, we're on to 2024 when you did the cute little June Steeler with the June Steeler with the backpack.
um going to Tara and uh Desande did the cheeky cultist hitchhiking to Tara.
>> Oh yes, I remember that fondly.
>> Yeah, >> fun one.
>> And then uh we were also reviewing how you did 2021, otherwise known as the June Sealer logo that I often forget about.
Um, and then you did 2023 and you tried to do 2024, but we're like d I don't know. So, we don't I don't know which one of those is the official, but we got two.
>> The terror robust is the official one.
>> Okay, gotcha. Thank you, Flynmer, for being our arbiter of the official dome.
And then last year, uh, we were sponsored by, um, Ben Fenris Workshop because they're great. Uh, so I wanted to like push the boat out a bit and get us like something really cool uh to to match that. And I hired um Lepka A Day who if you've ever seen my uh Hot Bug Summer stickers that I created.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Or like Vepka's done. Did you do a version of me? I can't keep track of my art. Uh anyway, Lepka a day. Uh I he was very kind to let me I think I commissioned him very last minute and he did this amazing June stealer wants you for the planetary defense force because Flynmer what was the theme for 2025 >> PDF cults like art the yeah was PDF cults like simple was that like they're taking over the planetary defense force so it's not the defense force anymore it's the staging ground force >> yes the planetary defense force June Sler calls.
>> And this is of course ripping off that classic American uncle is it called Uncle Sam I think they call him.
>> Oh, it was it was Kitchener in the UK first.
>> Oh, was it? Is that where they got it from?
>> Yeah.
>> It's like I need you the thing and then and then it's just like Americans go oh we do it with Uncle Sam. Uncle Sam needs you.
>> Okay.
>> And then it's like a stand sort of thing of pointing out of the photo we need you. Oh, that's sick. Sorry, Hydra distracted me.
Uh, Simon, you can talk on here about it.
You don't have to message me in a separate thing that I can't even look at while I've got this all up on my screen.
>> Whispering sweet nothings to each other.
>> He is whispering sweet nothings into my ear.
>> Maybe he doesn't want to talk about it on stream. That's okay. I sent him a real sappy card.
Well, yes. And you send me a um a magnet from Spencer.
>> Yep.
>> Which is amazing.
>> Miniature Spencer, the super talented.
If you want a magnet that lists one of your favorite fictional locations, be it Raccoon City, be it the Overlook Hotel, be it, I don't know, some other place.
Uh, Miniature Spencer's got these cool street sign magnets that he makes for all these dorky loces. Um, and I sent one to to Hydra for Raccoon City because he's obsessed with Raccoon City.
>> Well, I'm I'm not obsessed. It's just a wonderful story. Yeah.
>> Um, and my of course asked me what Raccoon what what was u the sign saying.
It looks like a eyeway sign.
>> Yes.
>> And Raccoon. Oh, I should have I should have put him to put uh usart on there or whatever the heck >> Well, if you want to uh teach kids uh something, you you do it this way because they get curious and you can explain it to them. And uh >> that was great. So, they asked me what what was Raccoon City about? And uh >> Oh, good. This is like this is like a whole whirlwind of information coming together nicely.
>> Teachable moments.
>> Yes. Yeah. Sort of. I think it's I know uh like uh everyone knows Raccoon City from um from the Resident Evil franchise and uh was it Resident Evil one or two?
No, it was two, right?
>> Yeah. one the the first movie was within this this hive uh building.
>> Yeah.
>> And the second one was outside. Yeah.
>> And uh they had there's this very iconic scene where people try to get out of the city and the police shuts down um >> shuts down the roads especially the bridges >> uh from that city and um they at some point >> I think the city is called Raccoon City.
>> I think that's the name of it.
>> Yes. the the the city they uh where the the virus gets loose is Raccoon City and um this bridge is in the real Raccoon City.
>> Yeah, baby.
>> Which is Toronto.
>> Toronto, Ontario. We have so many raccoons. Like if it was later in the day, they'd be having a dance party on my garage roof right now.
>> Yeah. It's so funny. I I I have so many fun memories around this very single word because I remember uh very good uh staring out of the window from your sky tower uh back then.
>> Yeah.
>> On the city and >> I lived on the 23rd floor of an apartment building. That was fun.
>> Yeah. Outside the city and we could see the city and we could see that bridge.
>> Yep.
>> And uh that was magic. That was pure magic. And um yeah, and when I stayed with you for for a longer time, I passed that bridge so regularly. And uh passing that bridge always felt to me like coming home in a bit.
>> Oh, wait. Yeah. So, uh hold on. Earlier, Simon, I showed people my new tattoo.
>> Yes. So, when I was coming up with the idea for this, I actually thought about putting the it's called the Bluer Vioct, putting the Bluer Videuct Bridge on here, which is the Raccoon City Bridge because the passage that because like I've I've often lived close to that bridge. Um, and fun fact, if anyone comes to Toronto and they go to Little Canada, uh, you can find me on the Blue Vioaduct. There's a little version of me. I've got a pink hat on and some pink pants on. So, you can look for me on the blur vioct. But, um I the passage on the outside of this tattoo is used as as the introduction to a book called In the Skin of a Lion. And In the Skin of a Lion starts when they're building that bridge and like the first scene of it takes place on that bridge and like it's a book my dad would had around and would read and we'd talk about. So, anyway, it all comes down to the Raccoon City Bridge as well.
Nice. And that tattoo is so good.
>> I am super happy with it. Um >> I believe that.
>> Hydra, is there anything you wanted to like reflect on when we look back on the uh the old school June Steeler logos before we move on to the the current iteration?
>> No, go ahead.
>> Okay, cool. Len, did you have anything you want to say about this stuff?
>> As in the logos?
>> Yeah, I don't know.
That >> I just remember the the Junilla logo from 23 pretty well because that was after the stream.
>> Blind told that story. Yeah. What What's your side of that story?
>> I was It was freaking late.
I think if I recall correctly, I was quite drunk.
>> Yeah.
>> And uh we were musing about that topic.
I think after the stream we were toying around with ideas or I think Flynn told me his idea for um for this thing and I sat down and drew it. Um just you know toying around with ideas and uh getting the immediate reaction from Flynn whose brainchild that was.
>> And um that was pretty amazing.
>> That was a pretty good run. And when uh when I was uh when I was done um or when we were done, I just needed to take a picture of that and had to draw it on my iPad. And that was >> that was super quick. Um yeah, >> before you got here, I was talking about how you're the world's most efficient um miniature artist as long as you have a deadline >> for any kind of artist.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Yeah.
Um, okay. So, and then we've got for no one replied to my message in our our stream host chat if this is okay. So, I am officially going rogue and saying that this is our new logo for 2026.
June 2026. Theme is killer strains. uh artfully drawn by um Will Tactical Dag and uh embroidered by Hydra with some awesome uh art and shading. Sorry, some awesome color and shading.
So, that's going to be the logo.
However, um I had another crazy idea to ask uh Will and Hydra since they they had already designed this logo that wasn't enough work if they could um do some more work and do some cool [ __ ] cuz uh the Oh, the idea I had was um I think I mentioned this last time. The theme is Killer Strains. It's like kill team meets mutants. Um because Flynn wanted mutants and I wanted kill team so we smashed them together and I wanted like some very rough character sketches to be able to post throughout the month so that folks could have like kind of >> if they they see oh yeah June stealer killer strains kill team mutants like oh okay but like what what should I do?
Like I thought maybe these like rough sketches would help people to think about different ideas or different ways to interpret the various um operatives that might be on a kill team.
So I've got two from Hydra.
Whoa, what am I doing? And I got two from Will. So up top we got >> Hydro I don't know if this is up for you yet. Can you see it?
>> Yeah, I I see that.
>> Okay. So, what's the the first dude I plunked up there? What's going on there?
>> The first dude is like a coms uh like a like a gener called his hacker.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh and uh you know, these are very very quick and very rough. I was having a bad time kind of trying to pinpoint my ideas.
>> Yeah. Um because you know that that kind of drawing is well anyway what I did was I think a good year ago I have bought some cheap um uh mannequins.
>> Yeah.
>> Like those uh those poseable puppets.
>> The p like wooden ones >> for art.
>> No, they they're are small. They're plastic. They're always advertised as 3D printed.
>> Yeah. you could kind of put them into cool action poses and stuff >> and I have used them for Omenite uh stuff before. So I that I put them put this this action uh thing in a pose >> and then um uh take a picture of that and draw over the picture uh because I'm having a hard time getting the uh proportions right and all that. Mhm.
>> Um, yeah. So, that was uh that was me toying around with those things. Uh, and that's how these poses came to be. I'm I'm not not a comic uh painter, drawer, whatever. And uh yeah, so the first as a comms uh coms dude. Um, and I wanted him to have like uh, you know, the like the the visual thing that has always intrigued me in um, for example, uh, the Matrix.
>> Yeah.
>> Was those uh, biomechanical tendrites >> that kind of connect to to something.
>> And I was envisioning >> Oh, like the ones that go into like the back of their head.
>> Yes.
>> Ah, neat. And I was envisioning that he kind of had a cluster of those things on his back for like different keys for different uh for different sockets, if you will.
>> Yeah.
>> Um basically like in Star Wars when when R2-D2 opens those doors, he has this little thing that comes out and he, you know, >> goes back and forth. Something like that. Just just not just one tendril, but a bunch of those in in his backpack.
And of course, he had to had a weird face. I started with one big eye and one like like a lens eye.
>> Yeah.
>> Because there's a technical appearance.
And >> I I like that. Uh in 40k there are these um these ah Jesus words. Uh everyone appears to have this stupid uh mechanical eye.
>> Oh yeah. Bionic eye or whatever.
>> Yes. Which immediately creates this Okay. Yeah. You are apparently a seasoned veteran of some sort and you are enhanced techn technologically, but it actually makes no sense. Like real enhanced technology would not be seen.
Like why would you have this massive uh screw plated metal part in your face? But anyway, I like that it's very catchy. And I wanted the the of course the servo skull which I envisioned to be a kind of a information hub or something like an access to uh to to some sort of network.
Of course he needs to have one of those.
And so the the gene cultist hacker needs to have one of those. But uh yeah, it kind of got out of hand and at some point he had a super large brain and at some point he had antennas sticking out of his head and in the end it was this brain parasite thing covering. I love it.
>> Lots of >> uh eyes like >> which kind of are the biolog bi biologic mimicry of this um I you know this this false eye the the skull has.
>> Yeah, I I love it. I think I hope Flynn's happy because Flynn wants more mutants and uh Will's art is less mutant and so it's cool that you worked in the mutant angle.
>> Flynn, what do you think?
Oh yeah, it's just it's part of the whole bit of my thinking of like trying to get the right words as my brain has kind of gone to mush with the heat here and >> weak but it's it's that the whole bit of like this whole strains isn't meant to be like like aberance they're just hulking brutes of muscle but you got like the benefit is like the whole brain >> bit to it. There's always like there's going to be something that happens for it. Like you could have someone who's got like completely skinny arms but huge freaking legs or completely the other way around.
>> I don't know what the brood mind wants to do.
>> This fits that sort of as aspect of it really well.
>> Cool. Yeah, I think I think this might be one of my favorite ones that I've seen so far. And this is the first one Hydra sent through. So, good work, buddy. Uh, and then you sent through uh this lovely little lady here. Do you want to tell us about this one?
>> Well, the the theme was or the prompt you gave me or that I picked was a cadet.
>> Yes.
>> So, I didn't want to have much of mutation going on.
>> Yes. Smart.
>> And uh I have started to rewatch The Expanse.
>> Oh, that makes me so happy.
that kind of I think that kind of uh squeezed through the way I again I I drew over the pose I made with that with that toy.
>> Yeah.
>> Um and they are not very wide and so this gave me the the angle and everything gave me a slight feminine look. Um, and uh, yeah, I wanted uh the the post to be holding a book in one hand, and I wasn't sure what I was going to do with the rest, but it kind of came to me that as a cadet um, that would be someone with an early within the early stages of uh, and the the infection.
>> Yes.
>> So, that's why she's having like uh this um band-aid in her face and there's a little tear on her other cheek. Yeah, >> I was assuming that kind of she just received the gene sealer cultist, the gene sealer kiss.
>> Yeah.
>> And that's why she's showing like her ear is already slightly mutated. She still has hair, but that's kind of at the back of her head. Uh she's having these um chitine plates at her forehead, but other than that, she's not, you know, she she's showing slight signs of things. And I envision that as gener cultists usually uh enter the civilization at the lowest levels and kind of work outwards from there. Yeah.
>> Um, a worker of some sort would be uh would be a good start. Like she and she would bring this book of salvation and uh comradeship and whatnot um of the forearmmed god emperor to work and will uh lecture her um lecture her her teammates in in their rare break about that.
>> Yeah.
>> Um and >> this is great. I didn't like I looked at this and I didn't catch half of these references. So, I'm really glad you're you're orienting us to them.
>> Yeah, it's it's not, you know, it's it's rough, but >> No, but it's it's got a lot of depth.
Like, even with a sketch so rough, you managed to work in a lot of references and depth to it that that really carry the the cadet idea forward.
Thanks.
>> Yeah. And of course, she needs a Warhammer in her hand.
>> Yeah. always.
Uh, cool. Well, those are the two you've sent through so far, so I'm really excited to see what you do with the other ones, >> but that's definitely more than enough to get us started.
>> Soon as I have something, I will send it through.
>> Thanks, dude. Um, and then the other ones we have here.
>> And look out for the medic. I'm I'm uh I think I really like where I'm going with that.
>> Uh, the other ones we have here are from uh Tactical Dag. uh Will, he's a co-host of Work in Progress Wednesday. Uh so we'll probably get him to talk about them like himself so he can talk about his like concepts for them. But this one um I sent I made up a list of like a bunch of random prompts and sent them to Will and to Hydra and said like, you know, whichever ones speak to you, please choose them and go for it. So Will chose heavy for this one. I didn't make it clear whether it was like heavy weapons or like just like a a heavy big muscly dude or anything like that. Um so he chose I guess he pursued both. He's a big muscly dude with a big heavy weapon.
Looks like he's got a mining laser there.
>> Yeah. And he's getting he you can see some kind of like kitan chittin whatever build up on his his right arm and the the right right hand is turning into like a gene sealery kind of claw and then uh the other arm isn't quite as mutated yet >> but you can see his face is definitely got some gene sealer mutation going on in it. Um >> he definitely needs that third arm to to hold the multi laser as well.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it's like in behind there and we're not seeing it. So that's that one. And then the other one that Will sent I actually have a a few more of Will's, but I'm doing two and two. Uh the other one that Will sent through was for the prompt enforcer.
He did uh this tough dude here, which is I like these are all great, but I'd love to see a miniature of this guy cuz he just looks so badass.
Like not someone who you would want to mess with by any means. Um and he's got that mutate. He's he looks much more mutated. He's got a very gene sealery rending claw on his uh his left hand and then his right hand like the arm looks more human, but you can see that the hand is definitely already started the mutation process.
>> That's I I love that part how the fingers start to fuse together to become a claw.
>> Yeah.
>> And how the back of his hand starts to to show those uh >> the vents or whatever they are.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. No, you guys like uh I'm glad you both agreed to do this because I love the like variety um of your styles and your approaches to it. Like your stuff is clearly been done digitally. Wills is this is literally the pencil and paper that he sent me. Um so I just like mess with them a bit. Uh yeah. So I'm going to take all of these and I'm going to turn them into prompt cards that we'll be posting over on Warp Shadow. um just to kind of like get the juices flowing for uh for June Steeler.
>> That's pretty awesome.
>> Yeah, I'm I'm super excited. Uh I feel like for so many years I've been like, "Hey Flynn, I'm going on vacation. Uh can you like, you know, run June Steeler?" And Flynn's just been totally left to his own devices and he's done very well with little to no support from my ass. So, uh the hope is to provide a little more support this year to make up for it.
>> Yay. Yay.
And I highly appreciate I greatly appreciate Hydra you uh offering your own artistic support to this. And uh I will have to tell Will on Wednesday how much I appreciate his artistic support.
>> You are very welcome.
>> Yeah, I just think it's going to like it's because we can keep posting um the very beautiful Worm Form logo and be like, "Hey, it's June Steeler, you know, go check it out, do some stuff. But I thought that with the um the character sketches that you're both doing and like posting them as prompts for folks that that might be a better way to kind of like keep banging the June sealer drum with different content so it's not just the same thing over and over.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I'm trying with with the rest I'm trying to lean into different uh different designs.
>> Yeah. Right. Um, like one of my big critique points about the the gener cult miniatures that we have is that this is just one uh one kind of design that appears to be happening everywhere. Yes.
>> Like the whole univer >> has minors and all those you know uh all the minors like if you see a minor he's probably a gener cultist.
>> Yes. Um and uh I always uh um admired and like the idea of them sneaking into different societies.
>> Yeah.
>> Um Yeah. And that was what I was trying with this construction site lady that she definitely needed to look less uh hey I'm a minor so she's a road worker and uh >> I'll try to find some other stereotype jobs that I can kind of work into those concepts. So to break it off a bit. How about a fire firefighter generic cultist?
>> That's good. Uh, Simon, I don't want to like glaze you too much because, you know, your head might get too large to fit through doors, but um, I feel like throughout the history of Junestealer, you have always been excellent at thinking about Genesteeler Cultist in different ways. Like when you did your when we did Cults on the Move and you did your like was it a carnival or something or like a you had this idea of like this traveling carnival that moves around and that's how it spreads the the curse. Like that was such a cool idea.
And then Glenn Hammer was talking about how you did that sketch of like like um >> uh what's the word? You had it >> uh the family the the the fancy people.
>> The aristocrat.
>> Thank you. Aristocratic. you did like the aristocratic family. So, you're always coming up with new and cool ways to think differently about cultists.
>> Um, and I I super appreciate it. I think it's one of your gifts.
One of your many gifts.
>> Doing what I can for the sky mother.
>> You are her most loyal servant.
Definitely. Um, speaking of trying to be a loyal servant for the Sky Mother, I am trying to get back to a project that I started probably in Juneer 2021. Maybe likely no actually before that, but I started working on it like quote unquote seriously Juneer 2021. This is the secret father. Um, >> yes, >> I love this miniature.
>> What?
>> The giant's feet.
>> Yeah, I love this miniature and I keep forgetting to work on it. So, in the style of like what I do with my brother where I need to work on his word bear's dreadnot, I'm going to use June sealer as an opportunity to get back to this geyser and I'm going to make some damn progress cuz you know what? We need to move fast and make miniatures and that's what I'm going to try and do. So, that's what I'm working on here.
Want to explain that cuz anyone who's been around more recently probably like, "What the hell is that thing? I've never seen it before." I got a lot of that in my boxes in my studio.
Um, >> I'm sorry.
>> What?
>> Lukewarm Reception said in in the chat, insurance telemarketer cultist.
>> Oh, that's amazing.
>> All right, Lukewarm Reception, I think you should uh you should convert that up for us. Let's see it. Also, I'm excited to see that uh Blinded by Daylight's here. Hoping that maybe we can infect. I know Blinded by Daylight pro like works on very Do you know Blinded by Daylight stuff, Simon?
>> No. Okay, so Blinded by Daylight takes uh large scale like um Mcfarland uh action figures and also the uh Joy toy ones and converts those. So like he'll take like a chaos one and like turn it into a noise marine. So he does really [ __ ] cool stuff. And I'm just here hoping that we can maybe convince him to uh embrace the Sky Mother with his cool art and maybe make some cool uh June sealer inspired cultist stuff at his scale. But I'm sure he's probably in the middle of something. But that that's my my proposition to you. Blinded by Daylight. I'd love to see I this is the part where I worry that I've missed you actually doing a Gene Suicultist already. Hopefully I haven't. But uh yeah, that would be super cool to see.
>> Is he is he uh going by that name on Instagram?
>> Yeah, but he's prim he's more active on uh YouTube, but he does have an Instagram. I'm pretty sure it's under Blinded by Daylight as >> Blinded by Delight.
>> Oh no. Blinded by delight. No, daylight like the sun.
>> Okay, I landed completely off.
>> Okay, I'm sure there's also an account for Blinded by Delight. That's probably uh sounds like it might be >> someone in San San Antonio.
>> Okay. I don't believe he's based in San Antonio. I think he's based in the UK.
>> Nope. Oh, there we go.
Oh, yeah. But he does miniatures well, right?
>> Yes. Yes. Very awesome miniatures as well.
Very talented painter.
>> Oh yes.
>> Big miniatures, little miniatures, miniatures of all sizes.
>> Hand sculpted slanish fiend.
>> Oh Jesus, that's so good.
>> I'm just going to read a few comments from chat, >> please. Thank you.
>> So, uh, Raidon says earlier goes, "Oh, we found 20 new lines of the Epic of Gilgamesh."
>> Cool. Uh Diana says, "Uh, all of the designs are remarkable for the old logos."
>> Uh, >> thanks Diana.
>> I didn't do anything. I just hired people. Uh, what >> Tom just mentioned about like we mentioned about Kitchener goes, "Yeah, yeah, but Kitchener was a monster."
>> Yeah, >> I don't know anything about Kitchener.
>> I just know this stuff happens at that point. I can't remember it all right now.
>> My UK knowledge ends with um what's his name? Church Hill.
>> Yeah, but then he was also a to certain places in the world he was the devil.
>> Oh like col col colonial stuff.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh like public. Yeah. But to the British public he was a saint.
>> So it's always the how he what they do to certain people at certain places that they form their opinions on them.
But we've got also uh Joshua >> Reena >> Rea.
>> Reena. Yeah, I remember Joshua Arena >> says uh Junior Cult Maxing wanted to say thanks for all of the inspiration especially when sculpting.
Uh and then give some ideas of oil field or petrol worker and also and Raidon says genius doctor warm reception says insurance telling marketer cultist.
>> Oh yeah, Simon got that one >> and He has Josh.
Josh also ask what's the sculpting tool and he knows it's silicon. Is it a particular brand?
>> Ah, this one. Sorry Josh or Raina, you're going to be very sad. This is a Keel Konique El Mer and it is only available in Germany.
>> You need to get your own personal German. Well, I can supply people, but I I need to get a a re-up on um my subscription for them from Hydra before I can supply people.
>> Yes. And I definitely need to uh pack the parcel, but something I want to pack along has finally arrived.
>> Oh, that's exciting.
>> Yes.
>> Also, I'm working with uh Dom does minis, past midber winner, on something super secret for Juneeler, which is coming out soon. And uh in terms of compensation, Dom does minis has asked me for, can you send me one of those famous German sculpting tools you have?
And I'm like, yes, I can absolutely send you a famous German sculpting tool.
>> Dude, I pushed them hard. Like when I did my sculpting session um at uh Maple Pallet, I was like, "This is a unique German sculpting tool. You cannot get it anywhere else." And it was one of my prizes that I gave away.
>> Nice.
Uh quick question. Right on.
Uh he said earlier, "Oh, we found 20 new lines of the epic of Gilgamesh." Does that mean uh like the the the actual uh Gilgamesh epos epic?
>> I think so. I think it's like it would have been some archaeological find because the epic of Gilgamesh is is credited as like >> the first western story, right?
Do you know why the Gilgamesh epulos is important for all of you?
>> No. Tell me.
>> It sounds weird, but this is uh so I tell this my students. I >> was going to say, is this your art teacher brain or your religion teacher brain?
>> Religion teacher brain.
>> Okay.
Um, it's I think it's interesting because it it kind of to me it is still connected to our our day now and it kind of explains a few things how things are.
>> Yeah.
>> Um, so the uh the Jews um or the the the is no I I don't know the the correct English term. So uh maybe you know the story >> Moses. Yeah. the Hebrews uh when they when they left Egypt um and they uh they they left through the Red Sea >> um they left Egypt and they have been walking around uh until they found the promised land.
>> Yeah.
>> And then they settled down in the promised land and uh for a good while they have been nothing else than um uh like these tribes.
>> Yeah. um being there and that's why this uh no before they have been tribes and then in the act of being enslaved in Egypt they became more of a unified um uh community.
>> Yeah. And uh when they arrived in the promised land, they kind of uh were still unified and they didn't break up much into those tribes back, but more had a kind of a consciousness for their for for a nation. Yeah.
>> Uh which at some point resulted in them um uh voting for a uh a king. They were constantly attacked by other tribes um that surrounded them and they said, "Okay, if we have a king, then we can defend uh better against these others."
>> Yes.
>> Um and that was David. Uh and no, that was not David. That was the other dude.
His uh >> the crazy one. I just I'm tired. I forgot his name. Long story. Uh long story short, um David became king. kind of uh united all these um uh all these tribes uh into one great nation. Um and then there has been for a short while uh one Jewish kingdom and uh that kind of broke apart and now is where it gets interesting. after these Jewish uh uh kingdoms cheed to exist uh the Jewish people uh were still existing but they were constantly under a uh different power that was controlling them.
>> Mhm.
>> And they have been uh they were still living in that area but that area was of strategic interest and therefore there constantly have been others that controlled them. I think if I get the correct uh uh there's a correct order. I think it starts with the Egyptians that controlled them and then the uh Assura and so on and so forth. Mhm.
>> And the most um interesting part is the um the Babylonians uh because they um they had a very interesting way of occupying uh strips of land because when you think about occupation uh in in the Bronze Age, that's quite a difficult thing. How can you uh keep a territory together? You can invade a territory and you can you know kill and take what what you can from that area but then you have to move on. Your army has to constantly move and uh you you know if you leave someone's soldiers of yours uh behind they will eventually at some point become part of the uh of the local people or uh you know they simply wander away or whatever. So, how do you main uh control over an area >> when you're when you're when you were a king that is uh far away?
>> And the Babylonians had an interesting concept.
>> What they did was they had Babylon.
Babylon. Babylon. Babylon.
>> Yeah.
>> Jesus. Uh so that was Babylon of that time was a little bit like New York you would envision today. um like a super large city uh with a dominant um culture. So the Babylonic culture.
>> Uh and what they did was they uh they invaded a country. They >> uh killed part of the elite of the country. So the the people who were knew how to read and [ __ ] and uh religious uh were religiously um educated and all that. So a part of them was killed and another part was deported and they deported uh them into Babylon.
So they kind of took them from their uh from their homes and took them to Babylon to have the um integration. No assimil >> assimilation. Yeah. assimilation pressure of the city for them to become Babylonians, to kind of reject their own beliefs and uh kind of to after a while constantly becoming more and more of the uh Babylonic creed.
>> Yeah. and then kind of being turned uh into Babylonic people, they would be sent back home to kind of uh you know bring this new culture and this new um faith into the uh into the the Babylonic creed back home. And that way this way you would ensure the uh the the loyalty of this uh land strip to uh Babel >> Yeah. without leaving soldiers to kind of occupy >> it or whatever. Yeah.
>> Yes. Um and so this is what they tried to do with uh uh the Jews as well. But the Jews uh proved to be very resilient.
And during that phase when they were deported to Babylon was when and now it's getting interesting is when the uh the story was created that um God made uh the earth in seven days.
>> Oh >> okay. Because before that uh the Jews did not have a real calendar or um they were not very good at astr astrology and all that and suddenly they have this massive boost of uh of kind of early scientific knowledge >> and uh they kind of work this scientific knowledge that they have gained from the Babylonics um into their own uh creed and to their own religion.
>> And that was when they um kind of uh told told the story of the seven days because before that they didn't know that a week had seven days.
>> But the Babylonians knew that. And >> so where does this come back to Gilgamesh?
So the the the um Gilgamesh is written on seven uh seven tabloids.
>> Tablets.
>> Tablets. Yes. Pieces of stone representing >> Yes.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh representing each a um uh part of their way uh of their story of how uh earth became to be. And that story is uh that's incredible. Uh we have lots of uh histo um pop cultural uh uh reference to that. For example, Tiamat is probably uh uh one of the most >> known um characters from computer games and [ __ ] like she's like a demon queen and stuff like that.
>> Also one of the books of the expanse named after her.
>> Yeah.
Um so she was uh she was the the demon goddess. This the whole story is basically soap opera.
>> Yeah.
>> Um and in the end uh like after gods have fought each other and that they uh when they um in the end they the quotation marks good dude uh fought off the the bad guys.
>> Yeah. They killed uh Tiamad and her uh her body was broken into parts and they built earth from these broken parts. Um and in the end they took blood from demons to make humans.
>> Oh.
>> And uh these humans were slaves to the gods and their sole task was to worship the gods. Um this sounds very grim but these all these stories try to uh explain what the the humans are what the human place is in the creation.
>> Yeah.
>> And they um kind of had a very grim view on on the the human's task. So you know made from demon blood um and tasked to to serve uh the gods. that does not sound much of a free will or anything like the the values we we have today.
>> Yeah.
>> Um >> and that was when when the Hebrews came up with that idea that uh their god is completely different. So while the the uh Babylonian gods were beating up each other and blood everywhere and they broke their body apart to create >> sorry this was the Babylonian gods was like Tiamat and all that.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Yeah. And the Hebrews said instead of having like all these different people running around doing pretty human stuff, uh we have just one god. And this one god does not need to uh you know kill someone uh and and take his flesh and do stuff with it. Um we have someone who simply speaks and suddenly it comes into existence.
>> Oh okay. So it's it's not we have a lazy god, but he's even more powerful than these dudes who need to battle each other. Basically, they are constantly trying to tell the story who has the better imaginary friend. But um in a in a very in well for which I think is so interesting because for most educated western people this uh 7day creation story >> Yes. is something to scare people away from from religion because you know who wants to believe that stuff. Um but uh back then so if you go to the core of this story uh the the core or the punchline if you will is that God created men with with a task but he made him uh uh in his liking.
>> Yeah.
>> Um you say in his image in English.
>> Yeah. In his image. Yes.
>> Not not as a slave, not as uh as as like a a better animal or anything like that, but you know, some someone with dignity and uh and all these things that we understand that humans are.
>> Yeah.
>> Um >> one thing, sorry, one thing I want to mention before I forget. Yeah. as you're telling me like all the stuff about like um the Babylonians and like taking someone to back to Babylon to like to like indoctrinate them and then send them back out. That is the plot of the new book by the authors of the Expanse, but it's aliens.
>> Nice.
>> And like the whole thing where like you said that the Babylonians would like murder like the elite.
>> Yep. Uh it's not much of a spoiler because it happens in like the first like three chapters or four chapters of the book, but when these aliens, if you don't want a spoiler at all for uh Captives War, uh I'm going to put this blue thing on the screen and when this blue thing goes away, I'll stop talking about Captives War. But if you don't want a spoiler for the new expanse books, uh look away. Turn down your volume now. But um how the invasion starts is that the aliens show up on the planet and they're like, "You are now subjects of the Carrick." And to prove that what how do they say it there? Like to prove that this you being subjects um requires your your permission or like you need to like choose to be subjects of the characters.
We will now murder 1/8 of your population. And they immediately kill 1/8 of the population. Like totally they just die like to kind of convince them that's like you know you you you can't resist us. Like this is what it is. What they do is they take the um they take a an example and they take the human elites and they take the elites back to their home world >> and they basically give the elites a problem that they have to solve and they're like if you can solve this problem you're useful to our society.
>> If you can't solve this problem you are not useful to our society.
>> Oh wow.
>> Yeah. It's really they're great books and there there's only going to be three of them and they've already released two. So uh they're pretty freaking cool.
Anyway, >> yeah, that sounds very familiar.
>> Yeah.
>> And like all their books are like named for like demons and stuff. I just I don't know enough about the Bible. So probably if I knew more about the Bible I' I'd recognize all the references.
Like the main character in um the the new book is named David. And apparently he's based on a biblical David who was like, >> oh, maybe it was the Babylonians, I don't know, was taken into like >> another society and he basically found out how to like turn the society against itself from the inside.
>> Does this ring any Bible bells for you?
Well, if you as I as I said the the the big king um that the >> Oh, it's so okay. So, the first king uh that the Hebrews vote, which is also very interesting because they voted for a um for a king.
>> Yeah.
>> Usually when think about the Middle Ages um >> divine sorry >> divine right or whatever inherited.
>> Yeah. Um so they the the tribes sit together and uh have decide that one of them is uh is so mal ninja just writes so uh that's the whole point of the book of Daniel in the Bible taken to Babylon >> Daniel. Yes. Yes. Yes. So so David the character of David is based on Daniel.
Sorry. Yes it was Daniel. I messed that up. Yeah.
>> Okay. Yes. Got it.
Daniel is something completely different. Yeah. Um Daniel is uh in in the end well he mixes lots of things up but Daniel is also the first uh so the the uh when you have the Old Testament and the New Testament from a uh Christian perspective. The Old Testament ends with the book of Daniel because that is the uh apocalypse uh episode one and then we have apocalypse episode 2 in uh >> um in in the New Testament.
>> Yeah.
>> And Daniel is the one who is uh ultimately uh being thrown into the the uh den with lions.
>> Okay.
>> Maybe that rings a bell.
>> Sounds familiar. Yeah.
adds a pretty strong imagery because he uh uh which has been depicted by lots of artists like like this dude walking amongst the lions um that simply won't harm him.
>> That's very similar to this book like these these alien overlords can basically kill you immediately but he has to like walk a thin line to not get murdered by.
So, so Daniel is is like taken uh taken hostage if I recall it correctly. Um and uh yeah, then becomes part of this society but uh on his own terms and not um >> uh you know uh not not being assimilated by the uh by the uh culture and religious pressure that is put on him.
>> Yeah.
>> So that would make sense. Cool.
What does this have to do with Gilgamesh?
A >> Gilgamesh is the uh is the the the the epic of Gilgamesh is um in part uh the uh uh the these well Gilgamesh is kind of the Babylonic hero.
>> Okay. and his like the like you have uh uh Hakodes in in the um in the Greek.
>> Yeah. And Golgamesh is sort of the uh heroic of the Babylonians.
>> Okay. and his um his epic is very closely linked to the so-called inumaish which is the uh this this um story how earth was how the existence of earth was explained in the babylonic um uh mythology. Oh >> okay. So Gilgamesh is very important character because I think the the highest go if I remember it correctly it's been couple of years since I last read that but um Gilgamesh is the son of Marduk and Marduk is the the highest king of the Babylonians.
>> Okay. Um, and Gilgamesh has lots of adventurous and fantastic um tasks to to do and stuff like he's a like like a hero novel.
>> Yeah.
>> Um, and I think if like 20 more uh 20 more not chapters, what was it lines? 20 new lines um are found uh that's great deal of a story there.
>> So yeah.
>> Yeah, that was how we came to be. So Radon uh posted this and um >> we got there in the end.
>> Oh yeah. Okay. Mel Ninja uh corrects us.
Gilgamesh is Sumerian story though. It predates Babylon by a while. Yeah.
>> Oh okay.
>> Yeah. It's like in western tradition it's referred to as the first story ever written which is not you know only in the west maybe but it's the only one that survived at least okay so Mel ninja enlightens us he wants to become immortal because his best friend dies he actually meets some scholar have interpreted to be like Noah from the Bible Okay.
>> So, his best friend, I think, is the wild man Inkidu. Inkidu, if you believe Patrick Stewart's pronunciation. Mhm.
>> If Oh, if if you've never if you've never heard of the Epic of Gilgamesh, but you're a fan of STNG, Star Trek the Next Generation, and you can remember Dormach and Gelad at Tanagra when the walls fell. Then that is like when Picard talks to uh I can't remember the other dude's name, the alien dude about like he's trying to find a metaphor metaphorical story where he can communicate with this guy because the guy only speaks in metaphors. Patrick Stewart, tell us about the epic of Gilgamesh.
Uh, >> you have to figure out that Gilgamesh yourself. I need to help my wife with the kids.
>> Okay, cool.
>> I'll be back.
>> Let's talk about something else.
>> Yeah.
>> Glenn, how you doing?
>> Still half half awake.
>> Oh, okay. I was I felt bad that we were like not engaging you, but if you're just chilling, that's fine, too.
Yeah, I just I've got back I know chat doesn't know.
>> Yeah, >> I was in Romania on a rugby tour for from Thursday last week. I only got back on Tuesday >> cuz Flynn's a bit sporty. He likes a bit of this sport.
>> Yeah, a bit of sport. And I've got a a softball tournament tomorrow. So, I'm just like sh like go to bed soon so that you're actually arrested.
>> Soonish. Yeah.
>> Okay, you feel free, man. because I technically have to go to a party tonight that and I'm not even paying attention to the time because I'm having so much fun filling in stuff on this guy. I'm I'm being serious. I'm having a great time >> getting started. Oh, I forgot to say.
So, if you're watching the stream, you're allowed to start uh June Stealer early because you you showed up. That's your subscriber rights for being on the Creature Conference. I should have said that right at the beginning. So, if you've got a June Stealer project and you don't want to start till June, you don't have to start wait till June. You can do it whenever. But we're officially giving you special dispensation to start on your June sealer. Now, if that interests you, I was supposed to say that off the top.
I forgot.
Lynn, what are you doing for June sealer? You told me before we started streaming. Tell all the fine people right now.
>> Yeah. So, I uh found a Kickstarter uh early this year that was doing like mutant min call mutant miniatures and they look really good. Yeah. Yeah, >> there's like mutated uh gener I'll get them and then I'll paint them up >> to be there.
>> Problem for me is I haven't got the bandwidth at the moment to be able to paint them up because I've arrived and cleaned them.
Just haven't been able to get them onto the bases to even get them sprayed first place.
>> No, these are metal cast.
>> Oh, amazing. I love it.
>> Yeah. I just haven't had a chance to get round to that. There's like quite a few different ones >> to spice it all up >> that fit different uh >> motifs and would work in an army as well.
>> They sort of give like an aspect that's like cross between genius of the cults and also like the mutants in Total Recall, but the original Total Recall.
>> I haven't seen any of them.
The only you know uh >> all I know about Total Recall is I wish I had three hands.
>> Yeah.
>> Because that is the quote from Total Recall that got bandied about the schoolyard when I was a child.
>> Yeah. They just it just looked at like, okay, that's the aspect I could see straight away from it.
And >> it's definitely something like, yep, definitely wanted to do that. Cool.
Yeah. Has anyone chat they've got their ideas what they're doing for >> Yeah. Yeah. Let us know in chat if you're attending to participate in June Steeler and you got an idea of what you'd like to be working on for it. We'd love to hear about it.
Just trying to fill in some gaps on this dude.
So, if you get bandwidth, Flynn, you're going to be working on on those mutant.
>> Yes.
>> Cool.
It's got a bit of a weird gap here, so I'm just going to fill it in with like exaggerating his that droopy belly a bit, I hope. But, I'm very happy with how I did the droopy belly so far. So, I don't want to mess up what I've already done.
This guy's not quite going to be a patriarch, but he's, you know, he's he's he's seen better days. He's he's old, you know, he's been around for a while.
>> He's getting there.
And I started this thing a thousand years ago. Um, if you've heard this lore before, uh, when the giant was not new, but like pretty close to new, I bought a giant kit randomly. I was like, I'm going to make that into a big Genesteeler patriarch. And I got like as far as like I think taking a Carnifx torso, flipping it around, attaching the giant head, but I didn't even I don't know if I even got the this feeder tendril thing on because this is a a a weapon feeder from some giant tier cannon. And I definitely figured that out later. So, uh, this guy sat in a box for a long time, um, waiting to be realized and then I dug him out in 2021, but he's he's probably from like the mid 2000s.
He was actually started.
Okay.
any hits on people's projects.
>> So, uh, Radon, I won't be able to participate in June sealer because of, uh, Pride Month responsibilities.
>> Uhhuh.
>> Go ahead.
>> Hey, I barely participate in June sealer because of random travel responsibilities half the time.
>> Uh, Mlin just says, "Thinking of making green stuff cultists generally cults."
Sorry, I say GS and I read >> I didn't I didn't put two and two together, but yeah, that's funny.
>> I I just read GS's green stuff.
>> I understand.
>> Who watch their high fleet getting eaten by the local fauna instead of winning.
They then realize their error and start worshiping their new master.
>> Fauna >> or a secret. Yeah, fauna. The plant >> the local animals. Yeah. uh or a secret unit of brood brothers who are like double agents and infiltrate the cults on behalf of the emperor.
>> Oh, that's interesting.
>> The way I would say you could take it a step further. Instead of it being like the Imperial Emperor, have it there is a group of cultists that are infiltrating another Genestealer cult, but they have come from a different high fleet. So, it's two high fleets in trying to infiltrate each other.
>> That's cool.
>> That's a little bit like the the lore that me and Simon came up with for um High Fleet Mock and his cult where um it was like dueling patriarchs. It wasn't from a different cult, but it was like for some reason the G Oh no.
Oh no.
Uh, I just broke the glue bond on this leg.
>> Uh, but I've got green stuff on it that should reinforce it. But >> no, I need to not lean on that leg anymore >> because it's just like a little wire in there and I haven't reinforced the joint. That was dumb. I don't think I I damaged it too much. But >> maybe I should do the thing that I tell everyone else to do where I stop sculpting on this miniature, put it down, and save it for later. But I really want to get this belly in.
>> Sorry, Flynn. Go ahead.
>> In regards to Mort Ninja's first bit of they turn away from the brood brood mine and start worshiping a new master, there's actually law of original geniller cults where they would stop work being part of they stop being like geniller cults and they would end up becoming a chaos cult.
>> There will still be like a brood mine sort of situation.
So there's something there to go for it.
>> Well, whenever I get back to my Juneer cult, the the um cult of the bladed cog, um that is what it is. It's um it's realized that tyrannids are no good cuz they're going to destroy them. and it started worshiping uh another uh psychic beacon out in the the vast void that it knows only as the serpent.
And spoiler alert, it's a lost chaos patriarch or uh not patriarch, lost chaos primark.
It's Omagon. Oh my god. What's going on with Omagon? This is a commission that I got done by I can never even remember how to say his name. It's like Reggieon, but there's like a four in there. So, this is uh my Omega Omeggon um Kip Ashley created for me minus an arm because the arm broke.
Anyway, that's my chaos altist gene sealer cult.
Yeah, I like that. Bringing back the like classic uh chaos cult linked or gene sealers. I think that was like a a child of the time when Games Workshop didn't have enough miniatures to support new armies. So they they were very they would take miniatures for one force and and write lore to be able to use them in the other. That's how like tyrannids got squigs and stuff like they needed more miniatures.
That's from was that Rick Priestley who said that or was it I think it was that was in a Rick Priestley interview.
>> Yeah.
Has anyone got the red terrors? Are your red terrors got the problem that all the other red terrors have where one of their sthing talons is miscast? It seems to be an everything sort of thing. I've seen more reports of it happening and I've seen no reports of it. People being like, "Mine came out just fine."
I have a red terror here that I haven't opened yet. bought me bought for me by all the lovely people on this channel who use u my fenerous workshop uh affiliate code. It really helps and it helped me get a red tear. So, I've got the Devlin box sitting in a box here. I just haven't been able to open it yet.
So, thank you for buying me a red tear.
Yeah, >> but yeah, if your red tear is messed up and you're like, I thought about doing a thing where I like tell people how to fix it because it's probably not that easy to not that hard to fix, but you should absolutely contact Games Workshop and be very upset that your miniature was miscast and there's no way that you could ever possibly hope to repair it yourself. So, they should give you some kind of compensation for it.
>> Yeah, you never know. If enough people complain, everyone could get a potential refund.
>> Yep. Could be.
>> Or uh when they release the cuz to be honest, you probably know they're going to be retooling that kit now.
>> You think I think they Yeah, I guess they must. I don't know. Like that seems like a lot of work, but I guess they probably have to.
>> Well, do you know about the how how they actually have the iterations of how many times they've retoled a kit?
>> No, I don't know about this. So on a sprew, so this is what I saw in one of the Squidm videos that every time they go back and make any changes to a sprew, even like in the initial stages of it, they'll put some companies will put like a little dot next in the on one of the corners of the sprew and they'll keep put another dot next to it so you can see which version of that tooling it is.
>> Really? That's cool. Yeah.
>> So you could see like for example if you buy another red terra kit in a year's time potentially depending on how many they've already cost you could go and see and compare it to a current red ter kit on the sprew. You can see like oh there might be a difference somewhere like another dot on there.
>> Mhm.
>> We'll be like oh so they've actually changed it up. They've toled it a bit more since then.
>> Oh neat. Okay. I did not know that.
That's Squid Marlor in this.
Oh, >> they got a dragon model made with uh Dungeons and Lasers that company.
>> Oh, okay. Yeah, >> cuz they do those dragons and I was like I wasn't fussed by the dragon design, which >> I have the the Xenomorph dragon somewhere. I've never done it.
>> Yeah, that's the Xenomorph dragon. It's actually got something that looks cool.
And you've you've seen these marks on Games Workshop models.
>> I haven't actively looked at Games Workshop models forum and also now because the fact they don't really Games doesn't put it on the website images of the sprews anymore. Well, >> you say that like you haven't got 50 billion sprews sitting just behind you, right?
>> Actually, I don't. What I've got behind me is a load of books.
>> Oh, that's cool.
>> Actually, yeah.
>> Yeah.
was that I haven't done any hobby for two weeks.
>> Okay.
>> And then the last bit was when we were on stream I was just making some like death watch killed guys.
>> Yeah.
>> I haven't really done anything else since then.
>> That's okay. I go for long periods without doing any hobby unless I'm streaming.
>> Yeah, >> streams are helpful.
I guess that's probably good enough.
Flabby sack.
All right. Should I stop working because I'm happy with it or should I keep going? Okay, I'm going to work on like the hands because I can do filler and work on them and not ruin what I just sculpted. Not mess with this leg, which is going to break again if I mess with it too much.
>> Important is stop working on the body, work on the extremity.
>> Yes, smart. Also, it's getting near the time that I need to call the stream, so I should keep moving. I don't even know what time it is.
>> Uh, well, for me, it's 11.
>> That means it's 11 6 for me.
>> Yeah, >> I said I was probably going to stream till 6:30, so got to keep moving. Okay, get him out of here. You go cure. Some cool arms here. Um Oh, this one needs some filler. So, the goal here is like have his arms be really messed up and like mutated cuz he's so old. Um, shout out, in case you don't know the hack, shout out, um, uh, Winged Hive Tyrant wing arms. You take the wing membranes off them.
They're the longest, most gnarly tiered arms in the the the in the line. So, that's what I'm using here. These are all uh, wing arms. And like, this one's got like a messed up huge claw in it with like a kind of useless thumb. This one's got another reachy kind of claw and it's going to have like a gnarly finger here. Uh, this one I stole from Bloodpool. This is a skeletal limb from the one of the skeleton teams. And it's kind of cool that it has like a ring on it. I like that. I don't know what I'm going to have to probably take that Blood Bowl thing off. I don't know if I can sculpt something that small or like a sigil.
But I love this hand. And then this one is I think one of the original giant hands with some like extra finger funky turnedness on them. And I'm just really happy that every one of these hands is a different design. I think that that's like cool mutation type thing. This one looks like it's not quite as mutated.
That one's definitely super mutated.
He's kind of got the thing where he's got two vaguely human hands that a gene sealer would have and then he's got two horrible giant claw things that a gene sealer would have. So anyway, that's where I'm going with it.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh any sign of Hydra yet? No, I don't think he's >> No, no sign of him at all.
>> Saving children.
It's like midnight there, so this could well be a child who's >> Yeah.
>> some kind of thing. So Hydra may not be rejoining us. Um, hot tip. I'm putting green stuff on a wire armature. I try to Hydra would hate this, but I try to like not sculpt detail in the first layer of green stuff because it's easy for the the green stuff to like shift around the wire. But at this size and because it's a mutated finger. And what I would do is I put like a thin skin of green stuff on the wire and then I'd sculpt the detail onto the next in another thin layer over top. But I might be able to make fudge this because it's we're moving fast to making miniatures, right? And it's a mutated finger, so it doesn't have to look perfect.
So, let's see what I can because I don't want to have to come back and do more if I can help. But yeah, if it was like something like an arm that I was sculpting and uh I just had like a wire armature and then I I wanted to sculpt like muscles and like stuff on it, I would definitely do a very thin layer of green stuff over, let it cure fully, and then come in and sculpt the details in another thin layer green stuff. Uh here I'm using uh this is a combination of green stuff in Magic Sculpt, which is my new uh I'm attempting to make it my go-to. Usually I use a combination of green stuff and epoxy sculpt which works fine. I've used it for years. But uh Will Tactical Dag who did the June sealer that we looked at earlier told me that um the man the legend uh Valbjorn only uses Magic Sculpt. So I'm like, well, if I'm going to be as good as Valjorn, I got to do also the case that like I've always thought that magic sculpt was the same as epoxy sculpt, just a different but uh someone shout out Epic something miniatures got.
Uh they they told me like, you know, you should really try magic sculpt because it's slightly different. And I did. I did a little bit of experimenting with it and I think I like the texture better than a pocket sculpt. I still have a lot of epoxy sculpt, so I still got to use it. But I'm trying to do more and more with a combination green stuff and magic sculpt and see how it Okay, this finger is coming along pretty nice. Oh, the other the other consideration here is that like because the fingers are so thin, probably better to sculpt it all in one layer. If I can if I keep adding layers to them, they're going to get like weirdly fat and gnarly.
>> And Hydra will yell at me for doing more sculpting than I need to >> as he should >> like he did when I was working on.
But yeah, right here like I'm I'm trying to like push this green stuff around.
It's kind of like shifting around the wire which is not helpful. But maybe it'll just look like mutant skin [ __ ] And this claw is actually a scaven. It's not an organic claw. It's like a on the um the big scaven beasty guys. They're like ogres, but they have like funk funky guns and they've got like the weird little baby scaven on the back with the brains. You know what I'm talking about, Flynn? Storm fiends.
Storm >> storm fiends.
>> Yeah. So, this is like from a storm fiend weapon, this claw. But I really like the the shape of it. So, I tried to make it look a little more organic and like round down the edges a bit so it didn't look quite so like I wanted this finger to be really messed up. It's only a little bit messed up.
Maybe that's okay.
What's going on in the chat? Flynn >> Diana says, "Don't forget to like, subscribe, share, and check out the affiliate links." Thank you, Diana, for being the number one stream promoter on stream.
>> Tom broke his ankle last week.
>> Oh, no. I'm sorry, Tom.
>> Sorry. Broke his ankle and what?
>> Falling over. Falling over his friend's door step.
>> Oh god. I'm sorry, Tom. I don't even know what the recovery of an ankle break looks like. And it can't be very >> takes some time.
>> Have you done it before, Flynn?
No, but one of our guys on our rugby tour, he broke his ankle >> on tour.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, no.
>> Yeah.
>> Sucks. In Romania. Well, I don't know how that works in the UK. Wait, is Romania part of the EU? It is, right?
>> Yeah. But so what he had to do got him >> basically his other half's a paramedic.
So basically we just got him on the next flight. got him out flying out so we could get back to the UK to get treatment >> to get an X-ray and everything. Turn that's when we knew it was either >> didn't even try to get treatment in Romania.
>> Well, there was an ambulance there and the ambulance was just useless.
>> Uh basically we got him on the we got him out, got him home. Uh X-ray turned out it was broken. It was either snap ligaments or fibia. So it turned out to be broken fibia clean all the way through. And so we just basically just sent him to he got back got the cast on then he's out for like what three months or whatever it is.
>> Yeah.
>> But it's like if he had got the cast put on in Romania he wouldn't have been able to fly for eight weeks.
>> What?
>> Cuz when you get a cast put on, you can't fly straight away.
>> I didn't know that.
>> Yeah.
>> So take >> I mean it's it's it's Europe. He could take a train home but >> Well, no.
>> What? Why not? There's no trains in Romania. They don't have buses. Come on.
>> But they got to get all the way through and then he's got to get to the Euro Star and everything. And he's not a he's he's not English.
>> Oh, >> he's Kiwi.
>> Oh, >> so it adds another element.
>> Oh, wow.
>> Yeah.
>> Dang. Okay. That that is complicated.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, it was just like getting him fly back straight away.
>> With a broken ankle. Ouch.
>> Yeah.
But yeah, we we managed to get him sorted out and get back over.
>> Yeah.
>> That's it really.
Uh chat. Uh Tom says, "I feel like I've seen them, but I just thought they were they were cooling or ventilation points >> on the mold." What's that about the red terra bit? Oh >> yeah.
>> Uh morning go. Is that red terra sprew error >> mission critical?
>> No it's not. It's very easy to Okay. Uh Games Workshop if you're watching this.
Uh ear muffs.
Okay. They're not listening. It's super easy to fix. Like uh uh shout out >> Ryan's Minis. Um Ryan's Minis is a phenomenal phenomenal painter. Amazing tiered painting work. Ryan's minis would tell you himself that he doesn't do very much conversion work, but or he doesn't I don't think he does very much green stuff work. He fixed it using um uh plastic glue and a knife. I think he just like put some like like viscous plastic glue on it, let it like cure halfway and then like I think he scraped it with a knife and then it was done.
>> He posted about it on his um on his Instagram. Um, I don't know if he saved it as a highlight though because story.
>> Yeah, >> you could reach out to Ryan Spinies and ask him how he did it because he he was able to do it and he would not describe himself as like master sculptor. So, it's definitely fixable and it's like on it's basically like um it's like here except for if there was only one vent here and this part was smooth. This smooth part is rough on the red terror on one arm. just this area. So, it's not like a a large area. It's not like the that doesn't fit together or anything like that. So, it's very much if you're asking Games Workshop for a refund, you're going full Karen in the hope of getting something because uh it's not mission critical by any means, but like you could totally be like, I paid this much for this miniature and it's it's not as I expected and like you screwed up in your QA. You need to give me something and see how far you get.
>> Yeah.
So, uh, I can tell you guys cuz you're my real friends. Um, secret father is a the reason that he's a secret father is that um he is a secret tribute to an artist who I admire greatly.
But I wanted to keep it a secret until it is done >> and then reveal it to the artist who I admire greatly.
That's why the secret part of secret father. But it's been so long since I started.
>> There's no way this person's gonna. So, uh, yeah.
Secret.
I told you that, right, Flynn?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Remember it from before.
>> Good, man.
Okay, that finger looks pretty gnarly.
I'm pretty happy with how that turned out.
See if we can get it focused.
And that's just one layer of grain stuff. So, not bad.
Perfectly chromulent level of detail.
A little blip blip here.
Some more detail.
Hydra. Oh, I think Hydra's messaging me.
He might be cooked. Wait, Hydra, you there? I can hear you. Or am I hearing my own audio?
>> You're hearing your own audio.
>> Okay, Hydra says, "Oh, no. That was Thank you for the thing I sent him." Uh, >> yeah. I wrote this card. This is This is like the life of someone with ADHD who has like a studio that's way bigger than he needs. I wrote this card to Hydra and I was going to send it to him at Christmas. I think it was this past Christmas. It may have been a previous one. And I was just like cleaning out the studio and I found this card again and I was like, "What the hell?" And I like read it. I'm like, "Oh, that's actually kind of sweet. I should send that to him in the middle of June or middle of May." So, fortunately, I had this uh this um Oh, it feels like this is hardening faster than I'd expect of green stuff. I had this stick magnet that I wanted to send him anyway. So I that's neither here nor there.
>> Uh even if you're not working on June sealer, what what are other things people are working on keen on right now?
or uh if you're not planning to work on June Steeler and you have like a cool idea like affforementioned telemarketing insurance salesperson that you want to give to other people definitely let us know in the chat because we are all about giving people ideas on future June sealer streams. Uh maybe we'll try and see like what people have already created and um get it up, but we'll see.
Glen Hammer, anything else about how you're thinking about handling June Steeler in terms of like the promotion side of it?
If I have the time, I'll see if I can try and do what we've done in previous years of like uh share on the what's Warp Shadow story.
>> Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. cuz you you do have a very busy June, right?
>> Yeah. Just just a lot of work and everything else going on.
>> No pressure. I can also do that. I have access to the work shadow account and maybe I have a little more time than you do.
>> Yeah. It's just one of those years where it's like it's the opposite way around.
Normally you're the one who's >> busy years. I'm the one who's busy.
>> Well, let's switch it up. That's fine.
>> Yeah.
>> You've been carrying it all those other years and I appreciate it.
>> Yeah.
Perfect. Also, I'm really really trying to have a couple of uh June Steeler related surprises uh in store for the month. I have had Warp Shadow shirts that I got designed.
God, I don't want to say it's two years ago, at least one year ago, um that I have wanted to make available to folks.
And the the stream hosts have them. Like I I if you're a host on the stream, I I send you Warp Shadow shirts to try and you know, plate you so you keep putting up with my [ __ ] Um, but I wanted to make them available to other folks to purchase. And I was worried about like the the um uh logistics of it. And Hydra told me how he was like handling his shirts when he's doing like um moment shirts. I think he might have done some other shirts.
>> Yeah.
>> And it was a good system. So I was like, "Oh, I should try that system." But I have ADHD and I am not always good at getting coordinated on things. So, fortunately, I have an amazing spouse who tells me all the time. She's like, "If you need help, you should ask me for help cuz I can probably help you." And I asked her for help with the Warp Shadow shirts, and I think she's going to help me get that going >> that people can get them.
The only thing I'm going to caution is that um it's like they're going to be priced, they're going to be made in Canada.
They're probably going to be Canadian shirts, like like shirts that were actually create created in Canada and they're printed at a local printer that I always use for this stuff. Um, and uh because of the situation in the United States right now with morons being in charge of the country, uh, you're probably going to have to pay duty on them if you're in the US. And there may be an additional handling charge for the US because I have to fill out customs forms twice for the United States.
>> Oh. And I have a video I will show you.
I will ship a shirt to the UK and I will show you what I have to do to ship to the UK and then I will show you how much extra I have to do to ship to the US.
And it's like download another app, fill out all the information you already filled out. Tell us 13 times that this is not like oh no actually I guess they won't be gifts. Um they're going to be maybe I won't have to fill out all those questions. But if you try and send a gift to the u the US, they like ask you 50 million questions and make you tell them 13 times over that yes, this is in fact a gift and you're not trying to sneak something you're selling through.
>> So I'm not about to lie to the US US customs on anyone's behalf. So maybe I won't have to fill out quite as many questions. But it is the case that like it's there's like five more steps that you need to do to ship to the US >> versus shipping to Canada, shipping to the UK, anywhere else.
Shipping has become so laughably expensive.
>> Yeah, >> shipping has always been laughably expensive in Canada. The rest of you are just catching up.
>> One thing is guys, I need to drop off now.
>> Good man, Flynn. Thanks for sticking it out for so long. Good luck with your softball event tomorrow. I hope you're able to get some sleep and it's not too hot and sweaty.
>> Yeah. And good luck with uh everyone's junior season projects.
>> Thanks, buddy. We'll talk to you soon.
>> Yes.
>> Talk to you guys soon.
>> Bye.
>> Bye.
>> Have a good night.
Welcome back, Simon.
>> Hi. Oh, that was in time, I guess.
>> Yeah, perfect timing. He may have been waiting for you to come back to drop off item.
>> Oh, that's probably right. Uh, question.
Have you ever used Tamilia putty, >> Simon?
I've got some right here that I've been meaning to. I I started testing it out.
I did a whole thing where I started recording a video. This is what I always do. And uh I record the first half of the video and then I haven't recorded the second half of the video yet. But that yellow stuff is Tamia. And then I think there's some light blue stuff in here that's also Tamia.
>> Why why do you ask? You've been messing with it lately?
>> Yeah. No, not that. Um the the plastic putty that comes in a tube.
>> Oh, the gap filler.
>> Yes, >> I have used that once. It was a long time ago.
I have come to um you know as I'm uh you are the king of smoothness and what surfaces and all that.
>> I am.
>> Yeah. You always Yeah. I think you always try to make things >> like smooth and and blend with the uh tieret aesthetic.
>> Okay. Thank you for saying that because coming from you it means a lot and I didn't know that you believe that of me.
>> I do. That's that's how I perceive your work.
>> You are the king of smallness. You can sculpt things at a much smaller level of detail than I can I have the patience for.
>> Well, thanks.
>> You're also the master of speed.
>> Yeah. And that that's where I come into uh come into uh >> into that with Tama. Um >> uh >> I don't have it with me down here. So I cannot show you, but there's this uh it you don't have to mix it. It's in a uh it's in a tube.
>> Yeah.
>> And the tip of this tube, it's basically looks like a toothpaste tube, but the tip is uh very very thin, like almost like a syringe thing. thin and um uh it has become so handy. I've used that so often uh lately because um it can do something that is really hard to to sculpt in my opinion.
>> Yes.
>> And uh works greatly. Um well, I don't know about you, but I always have a hard time to sculpt spikes.
>> Yes. Uh you don't >> I would not attempt it. I would do it in plastic card.
>> Yeah. Um and uh Tamilia is uh this this plastic stuff is like it has kind of the consistency of um toothpaste.
>> Yeah.
>> Except that it not will shrink very much. It shrinks a little bit >> but not very much. Um, and therefore if you are very gently, you can squeeze it out onto a surface and then gently pull away and this will create small spikes.
>> Cool. And they don't break afterwards like they they're strong enough to stick around.
>> No. Well, I covered in in layers of paint and whatnot.
>> Um, I have used that on a uh scenario token that I built for Omenide.
>> Yeah. Um and uh it's at on uh those those tips are on a very exposed uh place.
>> Yeah, >> I have those um like these weird leg like structures poking out of things and I uh I used some um Halloween uh bird uh deco skeleton thing.
>> Yeah. Um, and uh, just because I wanted some some weird large stupidly large legs.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh, to poke out and uh, where the quotation marks knee would be, I felt like there could be a structure on that and I used that.
>> Um, and I made those spikes on there and they have been on there ever since.
Cool.
>> So, probably if you would, you know, go hard go hard down on them, >> you could break it if you wanted to, but >> uh but yeah, just like if you fix it with super glue of some sort, um it would probably break off as well very easily.
>> Yeah. Right.
>> Um so, yeah, that was that was pretty cool. Uh a great find. And um because when you look at the car pace of crabs, for example, >> Yeah. They have all these tiny spikes, right?
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. And you're Mr. Crab sea creatures right now with Omenide.
>> Yeah. And I And I And I tried to find a way how to uh recreate these looks. And these little spikes were um are pretty pretty quick, pretty easy. Um, and I was wondering when I was doing that, I was wondering, you know, as some folks uh started to paint their high fleet uh as coconut crabs and all that.
>> Um, I was wondering kind of uh how a um like a spiky turn paste would look like with that.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Um Yeah. Because like when you think about coin effects with those large crushing claws, you already look like a crab. Yeah.
Everything crab.
>> Mhm.
That's um Yeah, that was something uh I wanted to share. And it's um >> uh the cool thing is that you can blend it with water.
>> Oh yeah.
>> So uh >> I have that [ __ ] thing here somewhere. I don't know. I have I can picture the exact tube you're talking about.
>> I think it's pretty just like just like hot glue. Well, the the nasty thing with hot glue is that it takes time and um to heat up and then you have those strings everywhere and it's hot and whatnot.
>> And I feel like to me uh putty there, this plastic putty is a quick >> solution to to small gap fillings.
>> Yeah.
>> Um and I think it kind of hardens rather fast.
Speaking of hardening rather fast, I'm messing with green stuff in Magic Sculpt here. And I don't know if it's cuz I did something wrong, but this is hardening I feel like faster than I would expect for putty.
>> Yeah, >> it's >> I'm I'm not sure about the the uh >> That's not good.
>> Damn, I want to keep sculpting. I'm so excited to keep sculpting on this thing, but I I really got to go soon. And my putty's telling me to stop, so I might have to listen.
>> Need a fridge, dude.
Yeah, I had a fridge.
>> These these tiny beer can fridges where >> I had I had one, but then something spilled in it and it I let it like it got like gross and I've basically just never cleaned it.
>> Oh, Jesus.
>> I I opened it. I turned it off so that it would dry out, but I need to like go in and actually like clean it and I'm not I don't know. Okay, I'm going to I'm going to shove some like I'm going to fill some wrist gaps with this stuff because I think it's probably still viable enough for that.
maybe.
>> So, um, you said that you were going to give that, uh, uh, on a Discord a sculpting tutorial.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. I got to remember that I'm doing that. Yeah.
>> Um, >> so my buddy, my buddy Tim Art, real name, didn't make it up. I checked his ID. Tim Art is a member of uh, some kind of hobby Discord that I'm now a member of as well. and they do a thing where they have artists do virtual lessons on the Discord. So people I think pay a subscription or say they pay something to the Discord and then I get compensated from that fund uh to give them a virtual sculpting lesson.
>> What were you going to say?
>> And I was wondering what are you going to to teach them?
I'm probably going to start off by giving them a general like just in case you don't know anything. Oh Jesus, that's not good. I just put a cut in this. A general just in case you don't know anything about green stuff, here's what you got to know about green stuff.
I'm holding the wrong leg. Uh green stuff like introduction. And then my goto for teaching people how to sculpt a physical item to like apply what we talked about is sculpting hoods >> because they're most people have a human shaped miniature around um with a head that they can put a hood on and it's not something where you need to have like sharp lines but it is something where you can like get to experiment with like moving around the putty and how that feels.
Unfortunately, I won't be able to give them Nivea. I guess I could ask them to buy Nivea before, but if they're >> Yeah, >> they're all over the world. I don't I can't send them Nivea, >> of course.
>> Um and uh when you're doing hoods, you you basically just squeeze it downwards. And >> yes, I put a blob on the head. Uh, it's a little it could I haven't figured out like the exact sizing, but I tend to say like same size as the head >> you're putting it on and then I uh >> Yeah, I I start at the back of the head and I squeeze it down and forward.
>> Cool.
>> Why did you have a suggestion >> for something else that would be good?
>> I'm secretly taking notes because I think my uh my thing is earlier.
>> Yeah. Um it will be in two weeks in uh on the wheel discord.
>> Yeah.
>> So if anyone wants to join uh check out uh enter the wield uh the website.
>> Is it a German discord or an English one or >> No, it's um international.
>> Oh, >> enter the wield.
How do you spell wield?
>> Sorry.
>> How do you spell wield?
>> Uh uh we e a l d.
>> Don't know that word. So I'm glad spelled it.
>> I enter it. Um it basically means forest. Oh, >> okay.
>> So the cool thing is that uh the wield is a small um a small group. Well, it's it's a small indie game which has been around >> shocker.
>> Yeah. For quite a while.
>> Oh, okay. The the wheeled uh the wield is a community arising during the lockdowns of 2020. The wield is a network of creatives, war gamers, model makers, painters and kid bashers, artists, writers, storytellers, and more who have come together to create a vibrant and supportive community spanning multiple countries and continents. It also is a game and it also is a sandbox. Um, so it basically there's this forest and within this forest um there's a there's like a pest spreading um a pest >> and you have those little villages and uh you you play either uh like the villagers some some uh brave try to travel from one village to another like traders. They're the guards who kind of fend off what is ever coming from the from the forest.
>> Yeah.
>> Um >> that sounds very uh very easy, but they have by now developed a quite amazing lore and some some catchphrases and stuff like that. For for example, they have the challenge uh which is pretty cool. on the Discord, they um they make these challenges uh and then they vote these uh for for them.
>> Yeah.
>> And uh whoever wins is allowed to uh come up with the uh topic for the next challenge.
>> Oh [ __ ] I love that. That's so cool.
>> That is so good. And >> we should steal that for Nidvember for June Steeler.
>> Well, that's a good idea. Yeah.
Um the the fun part is that you uh that they're always making tables uh of of different kind of inputs.
>> Yeah.
>> Um and you roll for different prompts.
>> Oh, cool. Yeah. Like the uh what? Realms of chaos. Is that what it was? The the Games Workshop book that started that?
>> Yeah, something like that. And I think the the last I I tried to participate in the last two of them and I missed both of them. Um, and uh I think the last one was a maybe sorry, >> was the slug wizard like that? Wasn't there a prompt that you rolled for on slug wizard? Did I make that up?
>> Uh, no. There were no prompts on slug wizards.
Well, long story short, uh, there they have a cool game.
>> Yeah.
>> Cool indie game. they but what they really excel at is gathering a bunch of very exquisite individuals to to promote for the game.
>> Um and they also have a little con and stuff like that. Uh and what they do as a community is that they try to no not try but they uh have found out that they have a bunch of very talented people amongst their community and they are having um free uh workshops during the year. And uh for example, last uh last week >> uh was no it was earlier this week uh was a uh photography um and kind of photo uh editing um workshop >> by uh Julian V I think he goes like he's on on Instagram called High-Tech Ogre.
>> Oh yeah. Yeah. Your boy.
>> Yeah. Yeah. He I I >> Aren't you guys buds?
>> Uh we we talk once in a while.
>> Didn't you win something from him?
Didn't he didn't you win like some photo contest of his?
>> Yes, I did. Couple of uh couple of moons back. Yes. He had this uh vignette uh 28 um thing.
>> Yeah.
And uh yeah, I'm just dropping the links in uh in the >> in the in the chat.
>> Can you also drop them into the the Discord channel stream thoughts because Kajun's probably going to go through this after and do the chapter markers and he'll probably pull them.
>> Uh so I'm not sure if you're familiar with uh Steven's paintbrush for example.
uh not off the top of my head, but I've probably seen them.
>> Don't don't worry. um he's uh he's important person at uh uh at the 28 mag. So he's part of the community and well there couple of people and uh I really enjoy um there it's it's a very small community but it's very intense and very caring and very uh >> good cheering and supportive and and all that >> and I and I really like the idea that they uh kind of help each other to grow by doing these uh workshops.
>> Yeah. And uh two of them like uh Julian and Bob are from Germany and uh Bo um Bob and I visited me at Tactica.
>> Yeah.
>> Um he was the coolest dude. Like he showed up and had this huge basket full of uh amazing uh like drinks and snacks and all that. That was >> fantastic. And uh I was so blown away.
Um and uh yeah he is uh he's one of them and we we started talking and uh he asked me if I wanted to do a workshop for sculpting and uh yeah that's that's how I got invited there.
>> Cool.
>> Um yeah and I'm I'm really excited uh for that. But I I'm I'm trying to I'm trying to wrap my head around how to do that properly because I'm not seeing myself doing a sculpt along.
>> Yeah. Well, the key thing is that you don't know what level of experience the people have because like I guess in the 28th community, they've probably encountered green stuff before because these people are probably >> people who convert, I would assume. But I guess you can't whenever I do a sculpting session, uh I tend to if I've never done a sculpting session at an event before, I tend to make assume that it's going to be an introduction to sculpting.
>> Um >> yeah, >> because the thing is that like take it from me who has been your student for a long time, you have a lot of really good tips >> that even if you just sat there and you just talked about it and you maybe like showed them some stuff on camera, you're going to blow a bunch of people's minds with things that they just like never considered. like think about how you um like give them the basics of like the sculpting materials and like >> why you choose different putty stuff like that and like the basics that they need to know to work with any putty like lubrication and all that but then tell them like some of your like shortcuts and hacks for like getting some stuff done quickly or that kind of thing. Like I my strategy with my sculpting videos is that I don't want to teach someone how to sculpt a sword because not everyone wants to sculpt a sword. I want to give people the basic grounding so that they can sculpt anything they freaking please >> and I will have made it easier for them.
>> Yeah.
>> Like I just like warm up and reheat and like reserve [ __ ] that you've already served me like the heat and cold thing, the Nivea. Um, like I even use your tip about like tacking green stuff with super glue if you need to like tack green stuff to something.
>> Um, these are all things that people don't necessarily know.
>> And then the like sculpting a physical item like with the hood, that was just something that I introduced like the last time I the first time I did these sessions, I didn't have that, but I just felt like it was a good way to uh let people apply what we've been talking about.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I was wondering if Yeah. the my my trouble is that I'm not sure how of uh how good my camera is to kind of be >> sculpting stuff.
>> Yeah, >> you have like your your pro cam there and we can see all >> the wrinkles uh when you're sculpting.
>> Yeah, but like I I recorded Oh, I guess I recorded on a DSLR when I recorded my first videos, but for a long time I was streaming using webcam and like you can still give them a little bit. I guess that's why it's important to say the tips and show them.
>> I don't know.
>> So, my my idea was to kind of uh work around that and and uh I hope I find the time to quotation marks write my Bible, my sculpting bible, >> kind of make a presentation >> of the things that I want to talk about.
So, I can flip through that and be like, "Yeah, this uh I don't have to wiggle my my tools around in front of my camera."
>> Well, that can always be like the visual aid that you do with what you're you're speaking about and like you can show it to them even if they can't see that.
Well, the majority of my session is is lecture. Like it's it's teaching people like the theory.
>> Yeah.
>> While I show them the theory on screen, but it's mostly it's not like let's sculpt along necessarily.
>> Okay, good.
So I think you can be safe in doing that.
>> Yeah, I think that's something that that I would do in in a um a personal uh uh personal tutorial.
>> Mhm.
>> Uh so if if I had some some place and space to to talk about stuff.
>> Yeah. Um, uh, no, not to talk about. Talk about on the internet is easy, but to, uh, >> demonstrate.
>> Yeah. And have someone, uh, be like, "Hey, I'm I'm I think there's there's so much to, uh, to sculpting that we as we do that so often, we tend to forget about."
>> Yeah. So, it's the challenge is remembering what you got to tell someone.
>> Yeah. And especially I learned that from my students.
Um, a lot of kids nowaday uh have trouble um holding a paintbrush properly.
>> Oh.
>> Uh, yeah. And that's something surprising. But how you hold a paintbrush is uh is kind of implied by the way how you hold a pen.
>> Pencil or a pen. Oh my god, Simon, you just blew my mind. And people aren't holding pencils and pens.
Yes.
>> Oh my god. That is like I don't know more than AI. I think that's the thing that has that brings me the most depression that people are not holding pencils and pens. Yeah, cuz I'm holding this to the way I'd like hold a pen probably. Damn it.
>> Yeah, >> that's sad, man. And wait when well they they might even hold a pen but um for a good while I've been come to I've understood that because my my wife is so anal about how our kids are holding a pen especially fountain pen.
>> Yeah. Oh nice.
>> I support that. Because when uh when you hold your pen um kind of you have your index finger uh you you you should have like your middle finger be the resting place of the pen and then your uh index finger your pointy finger and your thumb holding the tool.
>> Yeah.
>> Right. I think that's how you are holding your tool. Right.
>> I was doing I'd be Yeah.
Yeah.
>> And there are kids that are holding their um their their pen with the middle finger and resting the the pen on the drawing on the ring finger.
>> That's not Oh, yeah. That's not I I know people who write like that, I think.
>> Yeah. And when you when you write like that, you also draw like that.
>> Yeah. And um when you hold a brush that's something uh that's something that makes your painting uh hindrance because you're in your own way. When you write you have kind of uh come to to you have learned it that way. But it's actually it is in uh it's not a very healthy way to to hold a pen but because we don't write that much anymore. No one cares. But if you try to if you try to paint um the angle uh you put a brush on the paper is very steep.
>> Yeah.
>> And when you hold it with your pointy finger the angle is more flat. Ah, >> and that kind of is it is very little, but it uh makes painting with a brush more uh more inaccurate and more um hard than it would necessarily be if you but you don't think about those things. You you know, you put a brush in a kid's hand and be like, "Hey, paint uh and and they uh they don't get it done." And I was wondering for a while, what's going on there? Yeah, >> those things are these very very basic very tiny things are uh also dictating how your outcome is.
>> Interesting.
If you if you give a [ __ ] we call this the index finger, the pointing finger.
But if you say pointing finger, people will probably know what you mean.
>> Yeah. I had I I wasn't sure if index finger was was the right >> Yeah. What do you say in German? Index.
>> No. Uh, we say pointy finger.
>> Your finger.
>> That works. I'm trying the whole thing.
I tell your wife just say it with an American accent. It'll be fine.
>> Uh, all right. I think like this putty is cooked. Um, I've forced it into these joints. I hope it's not going to pop out because it's too it's getting too solid. But, uh, I think it might be time to call the stream for me.
>> Yes. because we're supposed to go to a party. Uh Norah's friends are having a party tonight. Although Norah had a migraine, so I don't know if we're going to make it. We shall see.
>> Sounds sounds pretty much like my day.
We had a thunderstorm rolling in.
>> Oh, gotcha.
>> Had uh I had horrible uh brain aches the whole day.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. I hate that.
>> Yeah. came home, took a pill, then we went to our neighbors because they were uh we're having uh everyone invited over until I had to leave because I'm internet famous.
>> Did you tell them that you're leaving because you're internet famous?
>> Yeah, because I No, I was I said I need to leave because I'm going to Canada to hang out with my Canadian buddy.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Over the internet. Don't let your kids hear that.
>> Well, my kids think I'm I'm friends with the world because I tend when I talk about people I know from Instagram or whatever, I always say they are my friends because uh explaining my kids that I talk to random people on >> Explaining parasocial relationships to your young children is not going to work.
>> Yeah. So, and I and I also and I also think that most of the people that I interact with are kind of it's it's to me it's more than a parasocial interaction. It's a very most of the time very topic uh topic related relationship but >> uh >> yeah we I you know if I don't like anyone uh I'm not talking to them and so I can >> call them my friends and I like that my kids think that the world is their friends and good >> you can make friends everywhere.
>> I like that. I support that.
>> You know what I also love? What?
>> These hands, dude. These are brilliant.
I love how you have managed to get to to make two hands look similar, but all four of them look different and have a different kind of design layout.
>> Thanks, dude. I'm I'm not going to lie.
I'm I'm very happy with them. I'm extremely happy with them.
>> And like I always tell people like don't sculpt hands because they're hard. And just like take a hand that Games Workshop, sorry, that Games Workshop gives you. But um when you're doing monstrous beastial hands, it's the best time to try and play with hands because if they if they look weird, it's good.
It works.
>> Um >> yeah, absolutely.
>> Yeah. And uh yeah, I I I hadn't worked on this thing for a long time and uh now that I've dug it out, I'm I'm super stoked to work on it some more.
>> Glad that you picked it up again.
>> Me, too. And glad that you were here to join us for the stream. Thanks, Simon.
Oh, thank you. And >> glad that Flynn Hammer was here as well, although he's not with us right now.
Thank you, Flynn, for joining the stream. Certainly. Thank you to everyone in the chat for also joining the stream.
I haven't Yo, what? Warren J. Bey is in the the house.
Oh my god, you're like doxing yourself.
You got like a picture and everything.
That's >> Vermis.
>> Oh, should I not have said that? [ __ ] >> Hello, Warren J. Bey who I definitely do not know. Oh, so glad to see you in the chat. Uh, what else are people saying?
Oh, oh, I guess M Ninja's in the the Vid with you.
>> Nice.
>> Uh, Maul Ninja. Yes, these feet are also from the giant kit. They're gargant feet. Uh, they just I just put them on I think these are Tyrannex legs. Um, so Tyrannix legs are the the longest, sexiest legs in the Tyrannid line. and tiered uh tyrant winged arms are the longest sexiest arms in the tiered line and together they make a long gangly sexy boy.
Uh domestic with an MD uh Nivea is the real sauce though. I'm a convert. That's good to hear. Uh see what else we got here. Uh Wield.
Yeah, that had a great stream. Yep.
Pestilence. Nurgle meets Noska.
Pestilence. Oh. Oh, I think Warren is in the V. Does they talk about like pestilence? Is that like the Okay, gotcha.
>> Simon, have you ever had any dealings with Noska? Valley of the Noska Valley of the Wind, the anime.
>> I have seen I love those huge things.
>> Oh, the Omu, the big the big uh bugs with the giant with a bunch of eyes.
>> It's pretty cool, man. You might like I don't know how you get into it, but I I read the graphic novels, but there is like a movie. It's like um the world is like infested with this like it's like fungus or like crazy moss fungus growth.
It's just like infesting everything.
It's it's pretty neat.
>> Sounds cool.
>> Um >> so the movie is any good?
>> I haven't seen the movie. I've only seen the the the graphic novel. So folks can tell you in if anyone in listening to the stream who's on the Discord has seen Noska the the the movie, please let Hydra know it's any good. But the book is very good and there's these cool things in it called God Warriors which are kind of like sentinels but I don't know they're they're amazing. They're kind of like Evangelion but like interesting.
>> Nice. Okay.
>> Oh, fungus after nuclear war is the way that Maul Ninja has described it. Uh, >> but it's like super overgrown forest fungus madness. It's cool.
>> That's cool.
>> All right, cool. Thank you, Hydra. I've taken enough of your time. Um, thank you for coming back after you had to deal with your family stuff. We're glad to have you back and we will talk again soon.
>> Sweet. Looking forward to it. Have a good night, everyone.
>> Good night, everybody. Bye >> bye.
Heat. Heat.
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