The Bank of Japan has intervened in the currency market at least four times recently, with the IMF stepping in after six interventions, creating a situation where Japan must raise interest rates to prevent the IMF from taking control. This will trigger the unwinding of the reverse carry trade, potentially causing a global credit and liquidity crisis. This macroeconomic event is expected to drive significant price appreciation for XRP as it serves as a liquidity solution during such crises.
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All right, we are back. It is Wednesday night and we are still here in Miami.
Uh wrapping up consensus tomorrow. Lots of good people here. I said this about Bitcoin Vegas uh and XRP Vegas, but I would just reiterate it here. If you're going to conferences right now, I think it's valuable. Um we've been to consensus the past four years. Actually, 2023 was our first one. Um but as cycles kind of progress and there's hype in the market and people are excited about things, you have, you know, it's kind of frothy, right? There's a lot of people that go to these conferences. is they're excited about the the industry. They're they're trying to do things. They're trying to put things out there. When you're in a bare market is a very different vibe. There are a lot less people at these conferences, but they are very quality people. They're the people that are hearty. They have grit.
They are doing something that's real most of the time. They have an understanding of, you know, like how to actually do something in the ecosystem and they they're surviving through the bare market. So, if you're feeling that way, if you your sentiment is down, uh your portfolio is down and you're uh you know, just feeling not quite as jovial as you were during the bull market uh in late 25 and and you know, kind of the middle of 26, it's okay. This is normal.
It's it's all part of everything that's going on and I think it's going to turn around in the very near future. So, we're going to talk about the macro.
We're going to talk about all the things on the regulatory side. uh all the other things that are happening in the market.
Um and then we'll jump into the questions like we always do. So again, take appreciate you guys taking time out of your Wednesday night to come hang out with me and ask great questions. Um something I saw yesterday that I found very interesting. Coinbase has cut 14% of their staff uh using AI.
You know, interesting timing on that.
You've also seen a huge reduction in other exchanges headcount uh during the bare market here. They're not growing headcount. They're reducing headcount on the premise that they're using AI to replace these jobs.
I don't I don't know about Coinbase and I don't know about these exchanges um on what they're actually automating in order to be able to reduce that much headcount.
maybe it's an excuse to be able to let people go and like drive down costs because they're not making as much money potentially. Again, I I don't know that their financials are if they're a publicly traded company, then obviously, you know, you'd be able to look at that and then quarter over quarter earnings, you could see that there was, you know, a significant reduction or loss in uh profits that they were generating. So, we'll have to wait to see uh what we get in Q2 for the earnings on those companies. Uh but they could also be a play to be able to push their stock price up, right? So uh you had Block uh cut like 25% of their staff uh on the premise that they were going to be, you know, automating systems using AI and they saw their stock jump 20% a single day.
You know, I don't know if that's the same play that these other companies are running. Uh if it's still working or not. I haven't looked at Coinbase stock.
Uh, we did see a new all-time high for the S&P 500 today, which is very much looking like a blowoff top to me. I don't know how we we go much higher than here. I think the valuations are at the far far end of the extended range. Um, you know, PE ratios at some companies are 25 26. Uh, the S&P itself is at that level. some of the AI stocks, like you know, if you look at infrastructure stuff like Nvidia, they're still in an okay range. They're at like 19 on their on their PE ratio.
Um, but I would I would argue that the stock market is significantly overvalued uh at the current price points that are out there and it's not sustainable for an extended period of time. I do believe that we're going to see a significant pullback in the stock market that's going to be exacerbated by the reverse carrier trade or even brought on by the reverse carrier trade unwinding. So that kind of leads into some of the other macro that's going on. We've seen the Bank of Japan intervene at least four times uh in the last uh few days here of this week.
Not good. uh the IMF will step in after six interventions on the yen and start very much regulating uh the exchange rate for the yen and they don't want that. So they're really backed up against a corner here. They really have maybe two more times that they can step in and intervene in the market before the IMF kind of steps in and takes control of the situation.
I think that they're still going to raise interest rates uh there in Japan and that is what's going to, you know, drive the verse carry trade or the [ __ ] Japanese carry trade, however you want to call it, uh to unwind globally. Uh it'll be a credit crisis, it'll be a liquidity crisis and we know what the plan is when that plans out when that plays out. So, uh excited about that. um which is unusual. Like if you didn't know that there was a plan in the background and you weren't invested in that, you probably have uh you know um an apprehension to being excited about that to see your stock portfolio plummet 30 to 50%. The bond market have volatility like it has uh Monday again you know just kind of circling back to that we saw some significant volatility in the bond market. uh multiple people you know dumping US treasuries and moving the yield significantly uh here in the US uh and also in Japan. So I think we're still on the right on the precipice of things kind of playing out here. Uh the Bank of Japan has also come out and said that they're going to I don't know if it was referring to meeting minutes for the monetary policy meetings uh or if they're allowing themselves to kind of step in as needed to be able to manage the market and the risk associated you know the yen currently has. Um I think it I tend to believe the statement leans toward the latter but we'll see if that's the case or not.
Emergency meetings for the Bank of Japan have never been a thing. It's never happened. Uh the Fed has obviously done that a couple different times in our history and and moved monetary policy significantly that's not factored into the market. And obviously we see, you know, the market's always forward looking. It's looking forward for the next six months. And people projecting things based on the information that they currently have at hand. So whatever they believe the market's going to do over the next six-month period is how they're buying and positioning themselves. Um, again with the S&P being where it's at, uh, significantly overvalued, really everything, you know, because of the M2 money supply and the inflation that we've seen in our economy here domestically and abroad, pretty much every currency has been inflated over the past 5 years, costs have significantly gone up for those that live in those regions. Now, depending on, you know, where you go, I was actually talking with our CMO about this earlier. He lived for um a little while in Japan and you know when he was there it was 80 yen per one US dollar. If you went now and things remain similar cost which I would expect they would um it'd be up some but not not you know significant. Your dollar goes a long way. Uh if you haven't traveled the world I would highly highly highly encourage you to do so. Uh we went to Turkey for my hair transplant. Um it was going to be yeah it's almost two years since I got the hair transplant. Um but when we went in 2024, you could get a Coke uh for like 30 cents there in Turkey. I don't remember the last time I was able to buy a Coke for 30 cents. It doesn't matter where I buy a co I buy a Coke at.
If it's out of a machine or if it's at a restaurant. I don't think in my entire lifetime that a diet coke or coke has been 30 cents.
But that's because of the strength of the US dollar in comparison to the Turkish lera. Right? If if you have a stronger currency and you travel and you go abroad, you could go to Japan right now and you would be doing pretty well if the majority of your wealth was denominated in dollars. So thinking about that, if you're going to travel um and you do want to experience, you know, different cultures and places, you might want to look at the exchange rate and then kind of plan where you want to go based on that. Uh because your dollars do go a lot further in other economies. Uh but back to, you know, the things that are at hand here.
Still waiting on the Bank of Japan to come out and raise interest rates. Uh they are facing significant inflation in their economy. We've seen them intervene in the oil market. Also, they're shorting oil. We've seen that drop back down to 15,000 yen per barrel. I don't think that they're going to be able to do that very long. I think that that could actually cause a short squeeze in the market and we could see oil push much much higher. We've we've continued to see that climb here in the US. Uh Brent and crude both up significantly, continuing to push higher because the straight is, you know, still shut down.
Um, so again, like I've said many, many times, I feel like they're backing themselves into a corner and they really don't have much runway left now that they have intervened four times at a minimum. Um, I saw another big dip in uh the yen versus the USD a little bit earlier this evening. I don't know if that was them intervening or not, but if it was, that would be five times uh and they only get six uh before the IMF steps in here. So, we'll see uh what actually ends up transpiring. Uh I do believe that they are going to have to raise interest rates in order to keep the IMF from having to step in and, you know, kind of take control of what's going on over there. So, like I mentioned, if they already did a fifth time, they're really out of runway.
they're the the only other option that they're going to have uh instead of jumping US treasuries or buying back bonds. Um they can't really inflate their currency because they're already under inflation. So they can't print yen to be able to buy back those bonds.
They got to raise interest rates. Like that's the last card that they have left on the table um to be able to navigate this situation. So uh we'll see if that's in the near future. I'm feeling good about May. feels like uh a lot of things could move here in a very short period of time with how things are currently sat in the macro. Um but maybe there's something I'm missing, right?
Like I've been off on time frames before, so just give me some grace. I'm just trying to relay to you guys what's actually going on. Um so that you're aware of those things and you're able to prepare yourself. But at the same time, you know, I don't know everything. I'm not the end- all beall. So take what I say with a grain of salt. probably a good time for my disclaimer, which I didn't do Monday, and I'm probably going to hear from my compliance team on. Uh, nothing here is financial advice. It's only for entertainment and educational purposes. You should always consult with a financial adviser, uh, a CPA or an attorney before making any tax, legal, or financial decisions. And, uh, if you need those people, we would love to provide them for you. We do have the people that have all those credentials and licenses at Digital Ascension Group in order to be able to provide those services. Uh and again, you know, anything shared here are my opinions.
They are not the opinions of Digital Ascension Group or its subsidiaries. So, now that we have the disclaimer out of the way, uh we can go ahead and jump into the questions. Uh and again, appreciate you guys taking time out of your evening to come hang out with me.
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Colin, my man, uh first one, he says, "Hey, Jake. Does it not seem strange that the chosen one for the new financial system has to rely on world events to increase in price? I don't think so at all. Um it's problem reaction solution, right? That's the Hegelian dialectic.
And you don't want to let a good crisis go to waste. And if you can orchestrate that crisis in order to be able to bring in whatever you need uh to be able to prevent or you know navigate that situation be ideal and the US government has been running currency wars for the past couple decades. They know that this is coming. It's not like it's you know a pattern that hasn't happened throughout history. uh any uh global reserve currency the past five over the last 500 years have had the same situation happen. They they offshore their manufacturing. They hollow out all of that. Uh they they offshore the inflation through that mechanism. Uh they continue to devalue the currency and inflate it over time and eventually it collapses and then somebody else you know becomes the economic superpower that steps in. It's a cycle that's literally goes back to Rome, right? So if you look at the Roman coins that they originally had uh they were uh you know gold, silver, bullion and then they would bring in other metals and dilute those over time even though you know to the public they look the same just like our coins. We haven't had copper in our pennies since like I want to say it was like the late 1960s uh or maybe even earlier than that that they started removing the copper from the pennies. It's actually so expensive to produce pennies right now. It cost them like 2 point something cents to make a penny. They're they're talking about taking pennies out of circulation because it's actually uh a cost for them to produce the coin. Um and if you have currency, you know, from the 1960s or earlier, uh it does have a decent amount of precious metals in it. There are people, you know, at silver and coin shops that will sell you dimes and nickels, um, and even quarters that were prior to 1964. Uh, especially the 1940s, uh, they were all still made with, you know, those precious metals. So, if you find one and you see those dates on it, it's actually worth a lot more than the face value of that coin. Um, but again, this has happened over and over in history. If you've read uh Ray Dallio's book cycles um you know currency cycles or if you've you know another good book that he's written is principles I would encourage everybody to read those uh Bridgewwater is fantastic you know they've done very well over a period of time uh they do great diversification and uncorrelated risk in their strategy uh they run that corporation as an anritocracy which is also unique um value proposition that most companies don't utilize. So, you know, shout out to Ray Dalio. He'll never watch this, but I've learned a lot from him. And um again, encourage you guys to read those books uh if you want to understand currency cycles. Another another good one is the fourth turning. U talks about socioeconomics and how that tends to coincide the cycles in that with currency cycles and the change in monetary uh regime globally. So anyway, they've been wargaming this for a long time. They knew that it was coming. And Jim Rickards actually talked about the reverse carry trade and an ICE 9 event occurring back in 2014 when he was consulting uh for uh the US government.
And that is where, you know, a portion of my theory came from. He actually talked about a certain straight being shut down. He talked about the straight of Jibralar. It was the straight of Hormuz. Um in my original video that I put out for the domino theory, I talked about the straight of Jialter. Uh and then since then since then obviously I changed that over to the straight hormuz and then here we are in that exact scenario where everything plays out in the way that he uh you know talked about with the US government more than a decade ago. So when you say you know that the chosen one has to have real world events to see price appreciation I think that's that that's exactly how they would bring this in. um if they just repric something like they did with gold, there's often opposition by the public, right? When when they confiscated gold from the US public in 1933 and then, you know, six months later revalued it from $20 to $35 an ounce, there was a lot of people very pissed off about that because they got their gold taken from them. So any instance where there's a revaluation by a government body or you know a global body like the IMF or the BIS probably going to be some people pretty pissed off about that. So in order to be able to orchestrate liquidity moving into an asset this would be a much better way and a narrative for the public to be able to digest that and understand it versus you know they just come out and change the price of things.
So I know that there's other people that talk about that. The BIS could absolutely come out and do that. uh which is the bank of international settlements. But I'm have a very strong conviction that they are going to orchestrate these events globally. Uh you're already kind of seen it and that will lead to the price appreciation for XRP for them to be able to use it.
All right, we got Spark of Light. That's a cool name. They say, "Hey Jake, appreciate you. Smoke it says research shows a reverse carry trade is overblown. uh can't happen at scale.
People think yen strengthening uh BOJ managing and uh CT exposure is much less carried exposure is much less than it was. Your facts um smoke is extremely intelligent. He does a fantastic job breaking down real world um documents and doing hardcore research. I have a lot of respect for that account and that gentleman over there on Twitter. However, you know, everybody's got their own opinion on things. Um, I believe that people have just continued to lever up. So, we did see some of it unwind. We saw about $2 trillion of the reverse carriage trade unwind uh on August, I think it was 14th of 2024. Uh, it was a Sunday evening. I remember it very well. Uh, because I was like, "Oh, this is it." Like, it's happening. but they didn't have stable coin regulation in place to be able to stabilize the bond market. And so they were able to kick the can a little bit further, held rates, you know, to make sure that things continued on the path that they were. And now that we have stable coin regulation here in the US through the Genius Act and then we have the OC coming out with their guidance around uh banks using that information and being able to issue stable coins. Now's the right time for them to be able to allow that to unwind at scale in order to be able to delever the system, repric everything and get into a sustainable system to be able to move forward from here uh and offset the debt. So, um, Smoke, like I said, very intelligent. I have a different opinion on this than than he does, obviously. I believe that after that unwind happened, people relevered. And I feel I think that there's somewhere between 10 and 14 trillion dollars that's levered from the Bank of Japan that's been put to work in different markets globally, including the crypto market that will basically be sucked out when this reverse carry trade unwinds uh at scale. So again, everybody's entitled to their opinion.
Super sharp individual uh probably very educated on this topic in order to be able to form an opinion and put it out there publicly. Uh, but we do differ on, you know, our thoughts on this.
Uh, Jeff, appreciate the super chat, my man. Uh, he says, "Hi, I'm at Consensus and haven't run into you. All the talk about every panel in stable coins, including crossber XRP noticeably absent. Your thoughts? Where can I find you?" I've been walking around the conference. There's been multiple people that have stopped me and asked for pictures. And, you know, again, I'm just a normal dude. Uh, I'm happy if people want to take photos, happy to take time and stop and have a conversation and learn a little bit about them. Um, but yeah, I mean, uh, XRP, Ripple has a booth here. I don't know if you went to their booth or not. They also have a very nice billboard that I took a photo in front of that says don't fold XRP.
I don't think that it's absent at all.
Um, however, I would say, you know, with Hideera's announcement, a lot of people are, you know, thinking that maybe that they're going to have a DEX that alleviates the need for a decentralized bridge asset to be able to trade between counterparties. I don't believe so. Uh I do believe that there needs to be liquidity uh liquidity pools and other things in order for them to be able to facilitate the transfer of stable coins at scale between different counterparties uh and remove counterparty risk or the need for nostrobos accounts to be able to preund those accounts with the stable coins from a counterparty bank to be able to settle uh with each other. they'd much prefer not to have to hold that capital idle and be able to put it to work and do other things with it instead of, you know, funding those accounts at other banks. So, I think that there's still a significant need for a DEX and a decentralized bridge between all these stable coins that are going to be issued. And I again think that XRP sits uniquely in that position to be able to facilitate that.
What's going on, brother? He says, u mega legend.
What will be approximately maximum price of hashflare and ono in December of 2025? I have no idea my man. Um it's all dependent on utility of those networks and what adoption we see. There's a rumor. This is just a rumor that I heard. Okay. And it's probably not even true. Uh but somebody was out there touting that Ripple is looking at an acquisition of Onondo.
That would be wild to see that happen.
Um when I was at the Onondo Summit in um New York earlier this year, they did say that they settle through two separate marketplaces back through the XRPL.
They glanced over that slide very quickly when they were talking about it, but it was very interesting to see that and them on stage presenting it. We settle through the XRPL for tokenized treasuries and other products that we do. So maybe there's some merit to that rumor. I don't know at all. You know, again, it's just hearsay. Saw it on Twitter. Figured I'd share it. Uh, but would be a very unique and interesting acquisition if Ripple were to pull that off. So, back to the price predictions.
Again, I'm I'm throwing stuff against the wall here. I have no clue. It's all based on, you know, utility of these networks and the adoption that we see.
I think all three of them could do very well. My guess, if I just had to give you a visceral response, would be higher than what they are today.
And I know you want like numbers so that you can map stuff out. Go talk with a financial adviser, you know, wargam it.
Um, do some research and try to figure out, you know, total addressable market cap, what uh percentage of that total market cap you think that they could capture in that period of time based on how things are progressing. And then you could work back to a number for what you believe those price points will be.
Um, all right. We got Bushw Wookie.
It's interesting name. They say, "Appreciate all that you do and your team. Thank you so very much." Thank you, man. Appreciate the the kind words in the super chat. And um, yeah, lots of lots of really good questions tonight. We got uh, Mr. Rick Johnson. Mr. Johnson. He says, "My boss is the biggest um not so good person. He literally does not care about anything. Utterly rude, mean grouch, price appreciation, move your butt."
I'm sorry to hear that, you know. So, I've worked for really good managers over the years, and I've worked for other people that just same deal. Did not care about me. um didn't want me to succeed unhappy that they were even at the job and morale at those jobs were it was not good. Uh I tried to take those experiences and then apply them to my life and how we manage our corporation and our our company. I want people to be excited to come to work here. I want them to feel valued. I want them to and they are valued right like I want them to really be valued by the company. I want to know about their kids and their family. I want to have, you know, good conversations with people. I want to make sure that they're doing okay personally. Um, and we also want to like do cool stuff for people. So, we just had everybody here in Miami, all of our seauite flew in and um, you know, had a big pow-wow. Uh, we've been going to multiple events. You know, we kind of divide and conquer while we've been here. We tried to do a couple off sites uh, or on-site, however you want to say it, uh, for the corporation twice a year. Um, so that everybody feels included, they get to know each other.
Especially in a remote paradigm, it's difficult to build that camaraderie like you would if everybody came into an office. So, you know, I'm very intentional about how we build the culture here and how I show up for uh all of our employees. My job is to make sure that they have the resources uh to be successful in their position. At the end of the day, that's that's what I'm here to do. We hired somebody because of their expertise and their understanding so that they could execute and do a job.
I don't like to micromanage people. Um, you know, everybody does need to be managed a little bit differently. I try to hire people that will chase the carrot like myself. Uh, but there are people that do need a swift boot in the ass every once in a while um, in order to stay motivated uh, and keep, you know, doing what they need to do. Those people don't last very long um, in the environment that we've curated, the culture that we have. So, you know, um, everybody has a different style of management. I I again I'm not somebody that uh we have core values when you're brought on you know we share those with everybody we talk about them at our all of our meetings um and we try to you know align ourselves with those in every outcome or circumstance uh and how we work with our our employees and our clients. So, uh, I'm sorry to hear that that's not the case at your, uh, occupation and hopefully, like you said, we see some price appreciation in the near future and you can walk away from that.
Nicole, she says, "Guru, uh, you're a fan of XDC uh, for SPC sighting its speed and low cost. Uh it doesn't however feature in the top RWA blockchain tables supposedly due to its assets being primarily managed. Uh is this cause for concern, adoption or success? So I literally sat down today with one of the gentlemen from XDC and had some conversations around things.
Um they have USD on their network now.
uh and I think that they are going to try to double down on payments to build liquidity uh in that ecosystem in the token and then parlay that just like Ripple has into other products and solutions later on. So I think that's their main focus in the short term. I would expect to see other stable coins issued on XDC. You know I've talked about in the past that you know XRP is the primary me second settlement mechanism for R3 and Corda.
However, uh they can utilize Salana, they can use XDC, they've run pilots with multiple other people. Um and you do need fail safes and backup systems in case you can't execute because of certain amount of volume or cost on a certain network. So, as the XRPL scales, if there is a pause in the network or something, you know, you could route that liquidity some other way, XDC may be the fallback on that.
Um, you know, for trade finance, I think it's fantastically positioned. Any contract that has value, I think could be issued on XDC. So, bonds uh may end up on XDC.
Obviously, has done a really good job of that um up to this point and I think they'll continue to be successful in that capacity. But, you know, uh, gold warrants from CompTEC are on XDC. So, it's it's a value. is a voucher for the underlying gold. You can exchange that in Dubai at multiple gold shops uh for the gold bullion that they have there or the jewelry. There's, you know, many other applications. I've been to their office in Dubai for XDC. I've spoken with Retesh, uh on a panel, uh know those guys well and uh I I like their network. I don't think that there's a whole lot in the way of adoption for them. I do think that it'll be a bit delayed and be more gradual over time until it is exponential and they do see big partnerships and implementation of their blockchain at scale uh in certain applications. But I'm I'm a bull on XDC.
I think that it's going to be around and be used for sure. And you know, again, I could possibly be biased on that. I bought it at 300s of a penny when it was an ERC20 token and you had to buy Ethereum and send it to a weird wallet in order to be able to even get it. It was not listed on any exchanges uh or anywhere else. So, uh again, just take it with a grain of salt, but I I really like that blockchain. I think that they're going to see a lot of success when it comes to the tokenization of uh notes and contracts that have value.
7U they say can you explain the risk with the yield product uh is it like loss of 15 10 to 15% or is your entire XRP get lost just trying to understand thank you so we don't have a yield product currently which ails me to no end um I can guarantee you that it is our highest priority and we are working every single day running at it as hard as we can a lot of the problem with the yield product as we want it structured to be able to mitigate risk and meet compliance standards and do everything the right way as a fiduciary um falls back to the infrastructure that we currently have for wealth management in the digital asset space. These players and custodians that are out here did not build it. they they've built infrastructure to be able to issue uh financial products that hold the underlying asset in an omnibus account and an SMA infrastructure has never been a thing in crypto uh single managed accounts.
So um you know we are looking to facilitate that. We have the first ever SMA product that's ever been launched.
We did that with Fidelity uh and one of our uh subadvisors where we you know it's a Bitcoin strategy. So if you have at least half a million in Bitcoin, uh we democratize access to that normally in order to be able to approach that manager and get ability to participate in this um opportunity to generate more Bitcoin.
You would have had to have 15 20 million. We bring that down to half a million. And we want to continue to further democratize access to these institutional grade products for you know high net worth individuals and our clients at Digital Wealth Partners. Uh but when it comes to the yield product, uh the way I you're probably referring to the funds that we have um so they run what they do is we hold the asset in institutional custody. We reflect that value off exchange after you've subscribed to the fund product that we have. It's a securities offering. It's fully regulated here in the US. uh we finally finished our audit and so that the all the audited financials went out to everybody on uh 3:30 which was the deadline uh for that or 4:30. It was 4:30 just a few days ago. So um excited to have that under our belt and done for the first time ever. Uh where we're running these strategies and the partners that we have um there haven't hasn't ever been a US audit done on them. Uh again, we're providing uh ways for people to get access to these institutional products that have been offshore and kind of out of the side of the US investor for a long time and doing it in a completely compliant way, which is fantastic. They're market neutral strategy. So, you know, by reflecting it off exchange, we mitigate counterparty risk. If one of the exchanges that's, you know, the trading's going on goes under, none of those assets are called away. They're held on our side of the fence. uh the line of margin that we get against the assets uh they'll issue like 80 to 100% LTV depending on the partner that we have and with that we only overtrade like 40 50 60% of that line of margin so on 1010 when that happened uh we had no assets called away it worked perfect uh which was the nine time it was that liquidation was nine times larger than any other liquidation even FTX that's occurred in crypto in the past so for us to be able to perform under those circumstances. I I felt very good about that. I was I say I was concerned because we you know structured it the right way but to see it perform you know in action was was very nice to see. So mitigated counterparty risk medicated mitigated uh volatility risk. The only um thing and this had you know all of these fund managers that we've been talking to have underperformed over the past six 12 months uh because of market conditions and thin liquidity and less volume.
um that's coming back, right? And we've pivoted some of the strategies that we use uh whether that's derivatives or or pers or algorithmic trading or arbitrage. Um the subadvisors that we use, you know, use to manage the strategies and then kind of parlay that depending on what's going to be working in the market. Um they've performed well over the last month. I think that they'll continue good performance over this quarter because we recalibrated the strategies. Um, but that's the only risk, right? So, if the strategy underperforms for a quarter, uh, we can defer those losses and we believe that the market's going to turn around and we'll be able to change the strategy and make the money back. Um, but you don't lose XRP until you move your money out of the fund, right? So, until you actually withdraw your stuff at that point, you know, we have to strike NAV um, and do what we need to do in order to be able to get people their stuff back. Um, we do have, you know, quarterly redemptions on the funds. The yield product that we're going to be rolling out um in the near future hopefully. Uh, we'll have uh monthly payouts, it'll probably still be at least starting off quarterly redemptions and then we'll move that back as we can. If we're operating in DeFi and other stuff, there's still going to be parameters around the compliance and the way that we, you know, structure everything. So not going to be just you throw it in DeFi protocol and you can pull it out anytime. Um I would love to get there. I think once we tokenize the products that we have. Um and we have you know some type of receipt token or something else that you know automatically tracks the nav all the time and you can see your gains or losses. I think people would love that in their account or working on those things. um you know cuz right now people get the returns quarterly just like any other private fund would be. But in crypto that's like an eternity for most people because they're used to seeing well I can look at my you know price feed any time and see where my asset is or I can put it in this DeFi protocol and see how much I've made in this period of time. Traditional funds don't work that way. there's so many different layers uh that are currently set up as frictions in the financial system that things remain illquid and also their the reporting on them is just significantly less and especially at scale like we have 700 LPS um in the products that we offer and so in order to be able to reconcile that and you know do the financials on it and pay the distributions and everything else it's very cumbersome in the current circumstances that we have but again as we add um and build out the infrastructure that we need. All of those frictions should go away over time. So that's not really what you asked, you know, so is the loss like 10 or 15%. We work with our financial adviserss, you know, they work with our clients to help them navigate that risk and see what the risk profile is. Most of our clients I would uh there's some of our clients that at the opposition of the adviserss did put the majority or if not all of their XRP to work in the products. Um again everybody has their own MO and their own goals and they get to drive their financial life and even if it's at the opposition to the financial advisors we will still do what's asked. Um it's just documented that they did not recommend that. Um but yeah that you know the ideal situation is we're mitigating downside risk. Uh that's why we trade in market market neutral strategies. Um and I that would be kind of the lower bound the the range that you mentioned there 5 to 10% that we would be willing to tolerate um in these strategies. So I again I rambled on there. Don't know if it exactly answered your question but hopefully you have a better idea of what we're dealing with and how we do what we do.
Mike, my man, he says, "Legend. Is the MFO punishing spectators for short uh yen golden week holidays? Uh the yen had two big dips, short squeeze, potentially third on Friday. Japan is buying back a lot of yen. Massive global margin call soon maybe." So that's what I was talking about. They've intervened at least four times in the currency market.
Um and they only get six. So if they and I and maybe they did one more tonight. I don't know if they did the fifth one. If they've done the fifth one, the really the only option is they have to raise interest rates at this point in order to be able to save their currency. So if we do see the yen get back to 160 161 162 versus the US dollar, Bank of Japan is going to have to act.
Um my man's asked another question. and he says, "Hey, Jake. Uh, do you still think XRP will upload a New Year's, not sure your question. Um, I searched for New Year's Eve celebrations this May and June and couldn't find any. Can you give us new clues? Please have mercy on us. Put on your tinpole hat."
Um, I mean, you could consider June 1st uh a New Year's of some kind if you if you wanted to put it that way. Um, April Fools used to be the New Year's before it was like the 1500s or 1600s when they changed that. There's lots of different calendars out there. So, again, I don't know which one's the calendar that the Riddles use. I have no idea. I think that they could use multiple calendars in the way that they've structured everything. And it's a pig pin cipher. So, all that being said, you know, I do think that May is a pivotable month. I'm watching May, June, July.
These are the three months of the year that I think we're going to see significant changes happen to the financial system and uh alongside that you know the the cryptocurrency market as well.
Um approximately 2030 price of those assets.
Oh um I mean you guys know my my price prediction on XRP. I think 2030 2032 you could see easily see a 10 thou or sorry not even a 10 $100,000 XRP. Uh I think that that's very reasonable based on the current circumstances and the adoption rate and the tokenization of different financial products and markets uh over that duration. HAR, big news from HAR this week at Hideeracon. Um, you know, crosschain interoperability and atomic settlement and swaps uh being brought to that network with the players that are on the council. You know, significant traction there.
I think you could see easily a three to four digit uh H bar by by 2030 uh if not sooner. uh XDC two to three digits, you know, again based on certain adoption curve uh and the implementation of that network in different capacities or different markets.
Um Flare probably same range. You know, I played played golf this morning with Flair or one of the people on their team. Um they uh again I think that they're going to have significant adoption because of the way that they've structured their product and network and the you know wrapping of certain assets. So you know the more Flare that's locked up the less that there's out there circulating you pay fees in Flare on the network there's demand for that token. I could see you know easily two to four digits. So I don't that one's a wide range, right?
Because again, I don't know what we're going to see as far as the adoption of it and implementation, but I would love to see it, you know, just like everybody else at significantly higher prices under a penny right now. So that and uh hash both I think um could see significantly more adoption and higher prices by the end of the year.
Quant um Overledger. So you pay fees for Overledger to be able to participate in that ecosystem using Quant. it doesn't actually settle value. There are a lot of people that have touted quant going to a million dollars.
I don't see that. I think that you could see a $10,000 quant if you saw fullcale adoption of overledger in every capacity by 2030. I think it'll probably still be less than that. Uh if I'm being realistic about it.
So, I don't know if you wanted specific prices, but I gave good ranges there. Uh and again nothing here is financial advice. These are just my opinions and you should always consult with a financial adviser before making any um you know financial decisions.
Uh infinite growth XRP says I'm a DWP client in your income fund. Uh when will I get the results from Q1? Uh when will it pay out? Also what kind of volume from the DTCC will we see XRP? Good questions. Um so they again finalized the audit and everything. They've been working diligently to get that done uh over the past three months. Um Q1 results should come out next week. Uh our CEO is traveling this week and I know they're working with Tony who's our main um adviser on the fund to put together the webinars and results from the past quarter and kind of give you guys maybe a preview of how they've done this quarter as well. So, um you should get the invite for that in the next seven days. Um and then the payouts are always, you know, ideally within 30 days of the end of the quarter. Uh so if there weren't any payouts on the fund or the product that you're participating in, it's likely that you will hear about that on the webinar and why. Um so when it comes to the volume on the DTCC for XRP I mean current volumes you know right now they settle T+1 between the clearing houses and the brokers and you know until they move to real-time settlement the volume itself right you know as it sits now would be substantial enough to push XRP's price well it would need to be a significantly higher price in order to facilitate the settlement of that volume um back into the stock market sells you know somewhere between four and six trillion dollar a day.
Similar to Swift, five trillion dollars a day. Significant volume, right? So, um I'm not sure exactly what you're asking.
What kind of volume from DTCC will XRP see? I think we'll see all of it. I think that when they move to Project ION and real-time settlement, XRP will be used in that capacity to settle all the transactions on the back end of the stock market 100%.
Um, off-grid hero, good to see you. They say DCCC's tokenized July uses XRP, high price needed. Um, so I think this is a misconception that a lot of people have. You could have back-end settlement of the stock market and not have those assets tokenized on the same network. Now, you would get tangental benefits if they were. Larry Frink has talked about this. He does believe that there's going to be one unified blockchain on the back end for settlement and potentially tokenization of real world assets.
Um, that's a lot of dependency on one network. So, you would need something that's never been down, uh, been operating for a long time, been battle tested.
I can only really think of one of those.
Um, the multi-purpose token, uh, which is an amendment on the XRPL, allows for voting rights and other things. Even though those tokens are fungeable with other ones, just like stocks would be, you might have different rights or governance built into those tokens, which is great for that application. If they chose to tokenize stocks on the XRPL, you've got a lot of networks tokenizing stocks. I think that each exchange is probably going to choose which network they want to partner with to be able to facilitate that. Uh then you're going to have chain link and you know CCIP. Uh you're also going to have Axelr and you're going to have wormhole that allow everything to settle back to the XRPL and settle those transactions between the clearing house and the brokers. So you know again just my two cents on that. Um but I feel confident that that's going to be the outcome.
Another good question. He says, "Hey Legend, will the final boss be this Saturday? Monday is the 11th. The magic number. Do you know Salute and Doer on their famous videos? And lastly, do you think Black Rockck would release its XRP ETF on a Friday or Monday?
I think it's likely that Black Rockck would probably roll their ETF out on a bookend of a week. That makes a lot of sense. Uh we've seen that with other, you know, ETF launches as well. Um, I remember the Monday that somebody hacked the SEC and said that they approved the Bitcoin ETFs and then it was Tuesday when they actually made that announcement uh on 110 January of 2024.
Um, I am familiar with uh Doer's work uh over there on Twitter. He has some very interesting uh videos that he's made over the years and um yeah, there's some interesting timestamps on when certain things happen in those videos that correlate to some of the riddles and stuff out there. So, again, I I don't know. Uh we'll just have to see if Saturday is important. You know, Ripple loves Thursdays. Tomorrow's a Thursday.
I don't know. We'll just again with the time frame I can't call it. Uh, it's going to be macro related in the events that drive and be the catalyst for everything that we've talked about.
BM Magic Studios says, uh, thank you for the super chat and I like the 2222. They say, "Hey Jake, I wanted to tell you about an app or site of Hello Beyond Mastermind KK Pawn created called XRP Live. Uh, you'd really like it. It's about every metric uh, we tend to look at and so much more. built for the mastermind. He did a great job. Shout out to KK Pawn. Um I saw him in Vegas for a short period of time. Just said hi, gave him daps as he was walking by.
Um but yeah, if you guys want to go check that out, I think it's a fantastic website. I think it has, you know, all the stuff that you need to be looking at. And again, appreciate you bringing that to um the public's attention.
Uh, if you want to join the mastermind and get access to all kinds of cool stuff like this and all the other stuff that the members there create, uh, you can go to beyondbroke.com and use the code beyondb broke, all capitalized number one, and then m o like Mary Oscar gets you the first month for two bucks there in the group. And again, I've said this in the past, but I will continue to iterate on it or harp on it. We are going to shut the mastermind down. You will not be afforded access. the prices will go up substantially and uh it'll be invite only on the other side of price appreciation when XRP hits at least $10.
So uh if you want to make sure that you're in you're a part of that community we would love to have you. You can go ahead and go use that code, join through the website. It's monthtomonth, no contract, cancel at any time. Uh but we have about 17,000 people there in the group that uh continue to pay month over month.
Trish, she says, "Hi there. I don't believe XRP will moon until Evernorth is ready. Uh shareholders still need to vote. Takes weeks. So June, you know, it's quite possible uh that that's the case. I do think that um Evernorth will be a catalyst that drives additional demand to be able to buy XRP off the open market. Uh, I do think that Evernorth is timed quite well for all of this, but it would only help them if price appreciation happened before they launched. Uh, they've already aggregated the XRP. They have 437 million XRP or maybe it's 473. I think it's 473 million XRP is what they currently custody. Uh, and they raised to be able to form that DAT uh, through the Spack that they're have filed for with the S4. They've done a couple iterations on the S4 and feedback from the SEC. So, I do expect that they will be launching here in the near future. Um, but it could take till June, like you mentioned, for them to get that off the ground uh and finally go live.
This person says, "Tinfall hat around Agora BIS 1C classification uh BIS hub basement repric unwind and clarity.
Please, let's go deep." Um, not a whole lot of context here. Uh, it's kind of piece mil together.
Um, yeah, if you want to go check out project project Agora, it's definitely a good read. I would encourage people to go check that out. The BIS, um, is definitely going to be involved in classifying these assets here in Q2.
Uh, they've stated that. So, I do expect that we will see a classification for XRP, Bitcoin, ETH, and Salana here in quarter 2 of 2026. And I do think I don't think clarity is going to get passed at this point, I'm I'm pretty out on it. Um, after the conversations I had at Bitcoin Vegas last week and then to see that this the people are still don't even like not everybody even has the same version of the bill, the markup I don't think is going to get done in time and with midterms and the other things that Congress has to do before they go on their break in August, I I'm feeling very unconfident that we are going to see the Clarity Act passed here in 2026, which is fine. Like I've said many, many times, I don't think we need the clarity action for for XRP uh to see the price appreciation that a lot of us want to see.
Here he is again. He's a mega election.
Which hot wallet uh would you recommend for Venezuelan and Cuban holders with less than 2,000 XRP to store XRP? Uh Zmen.
That would be the way that I would go if you want a hot wallet.
Um, shout out to Weeds.
Chris P. Bacon. Uh, 589. I love the name. He says, "Uh, hey Jedi Jake. Do you see a time in the future where someone could simply walk into their local bank and earn yield on their XRP and how would that affect your business?" No, I don't see that coming in the future anytime soon. Again, we we talked to all of these institutions, right? like Fidelity, Goldman City, Bank of America, JP Morgan, you name it.
We've had conversations with them. They don't have the infrastructure to support that. Uh if if they did, your asset would be co-mingled with somebody else's. It would not be in your own wallet, segregated, bankruptcy, remote, insured. Um it's likely that they would hold it on their balance sheet and rehypothecate it and do other things with it to pay you that yield. And um most people don't want that. uh there's a lot of exposure and risk in that. Um there's a very specific way that I believe this needs to be done that is in alignment with the f fiduciary duty that somebody like a digital ascension group has for our clients. And we're going to continue to build for that future. And again, like I mentioned, these institutions are not ready at all for this. Their adviserss have no clue about what to do with it. They don't have the products to be able to facilitate yield of returns on it. um two two years at a minimum um if ever in in my opinion. Um yeah uh you know and I don't say that to tout our company. Um I literally I thought the same thing to be honest with you. I thought banks were going to be all over this. They were going to love retail. They want XRP, you know, for for their own circumstances, whatever that might be. And I thought that they would be building products and solutions to be able to help people that wanted those options.
They do not care.
Like I am blown away by how much they don't care.
It's sad to me. Um because I want that reality.
And like I said, I I thought for a long time that they absolutely would be doing that and then come to find that that's not at all what's been going on or even a thought for them. Uh once the liquidity is there, they'll try to catch up, but it will take them a lot of time.
Um and they again the personnel that they have, even if go native infrastructure, they they aren't building it for the client's best interest in in my personal opinion.
Um, capital surge. Uh, they say Jake first, God bless you and your family.
Thank you, brother. God bless you. Thank you for the support and kind words. He says, "Second, is it possible for a new law to be written that says XRP is only allowed to be sold by banks and institutions and not by individuals?"
chances.
I will say that there are very strong reasons that we advocate for people to structure uh their LLC and set up a corporation to manage their digital assets. Uh I do believe that there's probably and likely an outcome in the future where it's only going to be those type of institutions or corporations that are allowed to participate based on their credentials in certain ecosystems.
Um, I could be wrong about that. Again, self-s serving, so take it with a grain of salt. Um, there's just a lot of benefits to structuring your stuff in an LLC if you are holding digital assets same way you would real estate to mitigate risk and liability and then also for creditor protection, um, anonymity, you know, tax benefits, all those things. So, uh, if you want to work with us to do that, we would love to work with you. Go shop it, look at other people to do it. Um, I can pretty much guarantee you that they don't have the same expertise in digital assets and the verbage or the language that they use in their operating agreement and the other stuff that they do uh to be able to file it correctly and manage, you know, the ongoing administration of that LLC is not up to snuff with how we do it. Uh, but again, there are cheaper options. Not everybody has $1,500 to structure a corporation in Wyoming and do it the right way. So, I understand why people would, you know, want to pay less, but if you want it done the right way, you want to work with a trusted partner that's done over 8,000 of these corporations for good people like yourself, uh, you can go to app.digital ascensiongroup.com and, um, you know, go through the flow and the process there. If you want, um, some guidance on that, you have some additional questions, you've got $50 to $80,000 in crypto. If you have less than that, I wouldn't worry about it. You know, you can do it later. But if you have at least that much and you want to, you know, make sure you're doing this the right way, you can email us, email us. Just do uh [email protected] uh or info@digital ascension.com, either one. And um our team there will reach out to you and answer the questions or schedule a call uh to be able to answer those questions for you.
David, my man, he says, "Top two% XRP holder mastermind for a year now."
Awesome, dude. He says he loves it. Uh, thank you for the support and the kind words, man. It it means a lot. Um, and we're glad to have you there in the community. His question is, "Will HAR XLM Ono, XTC have higher than $1,000 token price appreciation and the duration to get there?"
Out of the ones listed, I think that H bar is probably the most likely to have a fourdigit price point at some point in the future.
Um duration, you know, 2030 potentially. Um could be less than that. Again, it just depends on adoption of the network and ETFs and the inflows there to be able to push the price that high.
Um other financial products built around those. XLM has no financial products built around it. People don't trade it.
They don't do perks or derivatives or any of the other stuff. They're just now starting on some of that. Um got a tip off about a financial product.
I won't mention who or what what it is.
Um but one of those four may have a financial product launched in the next uh 45 days. So you pick which one. um you know when it comes out you'll be like ah that's what he was talking about. I will say it's a leveraged product also. So again not not saying which one of those currencies it is or who it's from. Um but excited to hear about it today when I got wind of it. Uh but again you know back to the question I think that H bar is likely the main one that would see that over the next call five years.
Uh, Kingdom Within. Cool name, dude. Uh, he says, "Hi, is there risk of Black Rockck buying Anchorage and controlling our assets? Uh, we own our dollars in the bank. They are custodians like Anchorage." Um, so very different.
Um, we set up segregated bankruptcy remote accounts. What that means is those assets are not on Anchorage's balance sheet. Your assets are your assets. there you are never a creditor of Anchorage. Uh we've structured that very specifically that way and that's the same way we will work with all of the custodians that we eventually on board with. Um so no uh is the answer um as far as like them controlling your assets. You are the owner of your assets. You control your assets. They are segregated from their ability to do so. They're not on their balance sheet.
Um, separate to that, Black Rockck buying Anchorage, I don't think so. Um, if if I were Black Rockck, I would be building my own custody infrastructure, leveraging Copper or Fireblocks or one of the other instances, maybe even Ripple custody at Black Rockck. Um, so unlikely. I think it's more likely that Black Rockck buys Ripple than for them to buy Anchorage personally.
Um, I got another question from my man.
He says, "Hey Jake, do you still think XRP will upload a New Year's?" We already went into that one. Sometimes it kicks me up in the chat here. Um, we are already an hour in, so uh, if you haven't put in your super chat, um, just know I probably won't get to it. If I do miss it again, you can send it to us on social media uh through a DM or you can just follow up via email to info@digital family office and they will pass it over to me. Actually, that reminds me. I think I have a super chat from earlier in the week that my wife sent me. Uh so I need to answer it.
Here it is. Um KT Baby uh says, "So thank you, ma'am." She says, "Jake Vegas was so much fun. Uh, so good to meet you. It's great to meet you in person, man. Um, we had a lot of really good people come through last week in Vegas on Wednesday night and um, you know, it's always good to put a face with a name. Like a lot of people are nice enough to, you know, ask me questions on here and I know them from their username, but to see you in person, shake your hand and make your acquaintance was very nice. So, thank you for coming through and again, thank you for being part of the mastermind as well.
All right. This person says, 'Lord, please bring thus about so perfectly for our benefit. Reward our faith, obedience, and diligence. I'm hungry for FU, money against bad bosses and utility to better serve the kingdom. Uh and for others, hash uh good prayer. Amen. Um, yeah. I the FU money, you know, like you just want to be sovereign, right? Like you want to be able to take care of your family, help other people with the abundance that you have in your life. I think that that's the common thing across everybody that I've met, almost everybody I've met uh for XRP, is they're not gluttonous, they're not egotistical, they they want to do well for themselves and their family, but they have big plans or things that have been put on their heart um by a higher power to help others in some capacity. They have a mission uh based on certain circumstances that they've lived through in their life or they have a certain cause that they want to benefit or create solutions for. And so I think that that's going to be the the biggest legacy that we actually get to leave as XRP holders and people that go through this generational wealth transfer that's really never going to happen again. Um you're going to have an opportunity to walk your highest path and do your do the most good that you can uh in this lifetime. So uh again that resonates with me and again thank you for the super chat and the appreciation and the support.
Uh, beyond thankful, cool name. Thank you for the super chat.
Let's see here. Uh, we got William, Mr. Kilgore. U, he says, "Thanks, Legend.
Uh, I'm going to take another stab at this one. Is the key to the Shane Ellis theory the coordinated trades with specific exchanges?"
Good try.
I mean, that's part of the part of the situation.
The crux of the issue is illquidity on exchanges. So if Tether were to be removed, depegged, sanctioned, people, you know, sell off Tether at scale. Jim Records just recently talked about this.
Jim's a smart guy. I'd listen to Jim Records. He talked about a situation with Tether where, you know, people lose faith in stable coins and a lot of people exit those in a rapid capacity and it's basically a bank run. um and they have to liquidate assets in order to be able to meet those calls. And if they don't have liquid assets like treasuries and they're locked up in a situation where bonds or corporate credit or are not so liquid, probably a bad situation. So that's the situation where Bitfinex would go illquid and then elect XRP as its primary liquidity mechanism. uh start routing everything through the decks and drive the price to you know $589 like in the Shane Ellis theory. That would be what I would say is the crux of that situation would be tether no longer being a viable option for liquidity in crypto infinite growth. He says why are you now giving a black rockck ETF time frame?
Um I don't think I gave a time frame. I said it makes sense to me that it would come out on a Monday or Friday.
Um, I'm watching closely the next three months here to to drive liquidity into XRP so that it's ready for July when they're going to tokenize the stock market. You need back-end settlement first. And the president of NASDAQ talked about that last year at Swell.
She said the first application for distributed ledger technology is going to be the back-end settlement of the stock market moving to T plus zero. Now she was interviewed by Monica Long as well.
I don't know how much clearer you can get that that's going to be XRP that facilitates that. In order for XRP to get to those prices, in order to be able to sit in a position with enough liquidity to be able to navigate that situation and play that role, you would need a Black Rockck ETF to be able to drive that alongside all the other things um that we know are going to happen with the macro. So, seems to me that we're really down to the end of uh the deal here. In order for that to happen and them to be able to go live with that in July, we don't have much time. we get a couple months.
So again, don't don't take it as like the end all be all. I'm just one guy. Um I'm just trying to read between the tea leaves and make educated guesses just like y'all. You know, you're entitled to your own educated guess just like I am.
My eye is bugging me tonight. Um we've got Mary. She says, "Do you hold XRP for C corps and manage those accounts?" We can. Yeah, we could absolutely hold it in a CC corp. Um, I don't know why you would do that though. So, I'm going to I'm going to give you reasons why I would not hold your XRP in a C corp. You might have a management corporation that is your holding corp uh or your management corp that manages the XRP that's held in an LLC. If you hold assets in a C corp and you're in a lawsuit and somebody takes control of your stock, they can liquidate assets to pay themselves back and then leave you with the worth the worthless stock. If you have an NLC, they're equity units. They can't do that. Um, so I don't know what jurisdiction you're in. You may be in Canada and that's why you're asking that question, but if you are domestic here in the US, it's a lot better to hold assets inside of a limited liability corporation than it would be an S corp or a CC corp that has stock. Um, and I actually have a whole video on this. If you're in the mastermind, you would see the long-term vision for how we're going to work with people to orchestrate their estates to make sure that they're navigating those risk and structured the right way to benefit themselves, you know, in taxes and all the other means.
Highly recommend you go check that out.
And uh, you would see a CC Corp that's involved there, but it's not hold the assets directly.
All right.
Scrolling on up.
Uh, we got MDC, uh, MCV, excuse me. They say, "Jake, pleasure meeting you at the mastermind event and in Vegas. Awesome, dude. Uh, I'm the guy who asked if I should smile for your picture."
Yes, always smile for the picture, my man. Uh, what do you think the time frame will be for XRP to begin appreciating if just unwind this week?
Well, it needs to save that situation, right? Like the whole point of XRP is there's a liquidity crisis and it is the solution in that scenario. So, it can't take too long. They are going to have to move fairly quickly in my opinion. On the other side of that, is that immediately? Is it a couple days? Is it a week? I don't know the answer to that.
They've been very methodical about how they've rolled this out. But I do think it will be kind of an all at once type situation where there's a crisis uh reaction solution and XRP is that solution.
We've got GM uh 1300R. They say, "Thanks for giving the average person a seat at the table. I really appreciate what you doing day in and day out. Thank you.
Thank you for the kind words and uh the support. Um, this is all stuff that like I've been very blessed and I'm very grateful to have the opportunity to be in rooms with people that, you know, know more than me. I I talk about this in a way where I feel like I'm an Indian outside the teepee and the shamans come out every once in a while and they share some nuggets with me and I try to do as much as I can to pass that on to you guys so that you know what's going on. um can't share everything, right? Um so I share a little bit more in the mastermind than I do here publicly, but you know, at the end of the day, um it's a privilege and I don't take it lightly and I really do appreciate the people that have shared things with me and me then having the ability to come, you know, share those things with you.
Uh Roughnit, uh Roughit, how are you, ma'am? Uh, she says, "Not that I'm thinking about it because I agree with you. I think that this is a calculated this is calculated and planned. I'm surprised that they're letting you openly talk about this and not suppressing your information. Thank you." You know, I' I've thought about that a lot. Um, I don't know. I don't know why. Uh, again, really really blessed to be able to come on here and have conversations and answer questions candidly and share information.
And again, I'm I'm speculating on a lot of this, right? Like this is the thesis that I've put together. It is a theory.
Um, now many of the pieces of the theory have come to fruition. We have XRP ETFs.
The Genius Act got passed. The Clarity Act didn't. The Straight Horse is shut down. We've seen oil jump. And now the Bank of Japan is in a position where they're going to have to move. And you know, if if you look at all those things, um, batting about 700 on predictions that I've made, I would expect to continue to bat, you know, pretty high on the rest of it also. So, um, I don't know. I I think that the powers that be really do want to help people in some capacity. I think the people that are curious and wanting to learn and willing to better themselves and their family and put themselves in a good position deserve the opportunity.
Uh but I also think that they believe that most people will squander it. If you gave everybody in the world $3 million and just distributed the wealth evenly, within three to five years, all that money would be back in the same hands. And I don't set that to be mean or egotistical or um derogatory to anybody. It's the financial education component. If if you don't understand how currency works, you don't understand how to create val value in society, you don't understand how to allocate capital properly, what assets are, what liabilities are, and you don't have that education, then you're going to end up, you know, messing it up. Um, and I think that's intentional. I think that that's why financial education is not something that they openly talk about in schools or how our monetary system works or what assets and liabilities are. They might, you know, teach you how to balance your checkbook, which isn't even relative relevant anymore. But outside of that, they don't really do much. And even, you know, I went to school for finance. Everything that I've learned outside of like three classes I took in college has been self-taught. and and that's coming from, you know, professionals and other people that I've worked with, watching YouTube videos, uh, listening to, you know, audio books and reading books, um, different publications that I follow, um, you know, looking to other macroeconomists and other people that are smarter than me that tend to have some blinders on and don't understand crypto, they see a a very bad outcome coming. and I just happen to see because of my purview into this asset class and the understanding that I have how this can help navigate that situation that's coming. But yeah, I I I think that they they allow me to continue to talk about it. I'm going to talk about it as much as I can so that people know what's coming.
Grayson, uh they say, "What's your favorite Bible book?" Mine is Revelations. Um, have you ever heard had have you ever had a man? Uh, you ain't a man till you've had a man.
I don't know what you mean by that. Um, confused by your tactics.
Uh, um, favorite book.
Um, I mean, I have a lot of different thoughts on religion and theology and um, all of that. I don't know that I have one favorite. I think that there's a lot of good parables in the Bible, and that's what I think they are. I think they're parables. I don't think that they are direct representations of uh the exact reality, you know. I think that they put that together in order to be able to orchestrate a theme or um what's the word I'm looking for?
An idea so that or a core value or belief for people so that they would have that to be able to then invest that into their own life and apply those principles. principles what I'm looking for. So, you know, I don't I think that they're all good. I think that there are, you know, I don't know if you want to go down this rabbit hole or not, but I think there's been perversions of the good book and things have been added and removed over time to be able to sway people in one direction or the other. Um, so I try to take all of that into account when I'm when I'm reading it. Um but you know I I do believe it. Uh I believe that just certain people have perverted it in certain ways. So hopefully at some point we do get to see the actual you know original version uh King King James like from the 1500s or earlier uh the Bible.
Um KT baby she says uh so good to meet you Mr. Shook and crew are amazing.
Awesome man. I'm glad you had a good time at the event. It was really good, like I said, to see you before and um yeah, we have a lot of fantastic people there in the mastermind. So again, uh if you want to join, if you want to be around good people, we would love to have you. Just go to beyondbroke.com and use the code beyond broke. All capitalized number one and then M O like Mary Oscar or the abbreviation per month. Get you the first month for two bucks there in the group to try it out.
We got Freeport Lawn Care. They say, "Thank you uh from a small business. We dollar cost average 100 bucks a month.
Uh we listen to you while we work.
Thanks again. Thank you. Um that's cool.
Uh you know, if if I'm able to help just one person, like that makes all this worth it. Uh you know, our goal in the mastermind is to help a million people become financially free. I don't know that I'll ever be able to impact a million people in in my lifetime. Um but I'm hoping that you know over multiple generations there are that many lives impacted by people finding this and you know taking action learning all the things that they need to learn and then being able to apply those principles core core values and beliefs and be able to disseminate that and then change the lives and opportunity that their next generation and multiple generations are going to have.
Um, this person says, "No, no disrespect theory, but you know anyone group government that is fighting against it happening?"
Yeah, for sure.
Why do you think Ripple was sued? Why do you think I think a lot of this stuff was ready to go in like 2020, maybe even, you know, 2021. Um, and things changed and to your point, people were not happy about that direction and they decided to b at it and try to prevent it and eventually they just back themselves into a corner where it's the only option that they have left. I think we're pretty close to that.
Anthony, he says, "Hello, Legend. Uh, great speaking with you Monday night.
Uh, appreciate the time." Roco, hey, good to see you, dude. Um, uh, if I do a trust, would that avoid a state exit tax? If my state implement an exit tax after price appreciation and I want to move to a non-income state.
It's California, they're going to get theirs. Um, New York's probably the same way. So, I would do it prior to that. uh they do have like a 10-year clawback that they're trying to implement and and already have been going after people that have moved out of California and New York. So, the sooner you start that time clock, the better. Um but yeah, moving it into a certain type of trust and getting it out of your name and gifting, you would have to gift it out of your taxable estate. Um it shouldn't then be applicable for them to be able to come after you for it.
But again, I'm not the end- all beall. I would talk with a tax attorney or uh a really good tax planner that's an estate planner uh and navigate that situation.
Um so don't don't quote me, but that's my best guess.
John says, "Hey, Legend, wait for it. Uh Derry uh set up an LLC with LA last quarter and they're now reaching out to conduct my first quarterly uh compliance call.
Would like to convert to DAG. What do you suggest? I just download the app and pay uh you should um have, you know, a renewal fee. If you want to go ahead and do that, if you don't want to do it, you can. You can just move on to the app. Uh and we're building in all of the corporate veil services or the, you know, the corporate shield or whatever you want to call it um through that application. So, I wouldn't worry about Laughlin. I would just, you know, download the app, move your stuff over, upload your EIN, set up your account.
We'll send them a notice that they are no longer providing the service and we will provide that service moving forward.
Um, and we will honor, you know, any any purchases. It's not like you got to pay more.
Um, Trap Sleep says, "Appreciate you, brother. Uh, you keep us all motivated."
Thank you, man. You know, today was a long day. Was up at um 6:00 a.m. here in Florida. Um went to multiple events today. Worked all day long and I'm still here. It's uh almost 10:30 uh Eastern time.
Actually 11:30 Eastern time. Excuse me.
Uh Christ is King. Love it. Um God is good, man. Uh what will come first? the second coming or price appreciation.
Price appreciation. Uh but really when can you expect this and how many digits trying to achieve financial freedom and bless others?
You're watching the macro, man.
Everything that I talk about on here, the 10-year, we haven't even looked at that in a little while. So, we'll go ahead and pull that up. If you want to Google uh JPY 10-year yield, um I like the CNBC version of it. We're at 2.9.
uh we've seen some big moves uh on the 2-year for both the US Treasury and um that Treasury there in Japan.
If that's when the rotation's going to happen, when it becomes more lucrative to hold Japanese bonds than it does US treasuries or even that gap becomes very close, that's when you're going to see that rotation start to happen. And that's when everything else is going to pan out like I've talked about with the price appreciation of XRP, the Black Rockck ETF, and all the other catalysts that would push the price to where it needs to be to facilitate back-end settlement of the stock market and derisk uh when that situation transpires.
Uh David, he says, "Mastermind almost a year now. Love it." Thank you, dude. Uh we love having you in there. I'm in there twice a week. We have a call depending on what level of the mastermind you're in every single day.
Um different other other people run those calls. We have other professionals come in there and talk about a lot of different things whether it's insurance, estate planning, mitigating taxes, credit, um different types of investments, you know, how to do due diligence, um really just as much financial education as we can provide people there in that community. Um, well, uh, he's asked me the same question as I answered earlier. So, we'll go ahead. Maybe I've already moved up here in the chat to the point where I've got back. Nope. Uh, XRP Maxi, he says, Jake, interestingly, if you Google world's new bridge currency, it says XRP immediately. Uh, the balloon is about May, June is our time. I think so. You know, I think again, I'm watching these uh months very closely here.
uh for you know all the macro catalysts that I've been talking about and it's been that way for a long time. If you go if you Googled um global bridge currency or world bridge currency even back in 21 it came up with XRP.
Uh this person says evening Jake I'm taking a three-month pay cut starting July. I have 9K in savings. How can I get a monthly return off that to help my second job I'm getting? It won't be enough working extra. Thanks, man.
9K in savings ain't going to do it, my man. Uh or my lady.
Um if you haven't invest in the right stuff, there's a potential in that time frame that you could be in a very different financial position. Potential.
Not saying absolute. you should not make any financial decisions based on my recommendations. I'm not a financial adviser. Um, however, you know, I I think there's a potential in the time frame that you mentioned that you could be in a position if you invested that the right way where you could, you know, have enough income uh to be able to offset, you know, the transition out of your current occupation.
Um, Zebu meet uh, they say, "Jake, why do you think Ripple spends time and money interacting with XRP army if their end goal clients are banks and institutions, billboards, etc. Seems like a gimmick."
Um, I think they genuinely do want to help retail.
I I think that um, you know, they love the XRP army. We've helped them get to where they are in multiple applications. Whether it was the 7500 people vouching for them in the lawsuit with John Deon or the liquidity that we've put into the asset through the exchanges so that they could trial the network. None of this is possible without retail and I think they know that and so they want to show appreciation. Uh however, you know, apparently David Schwarz talked about them migrating toward a retail facing client when uh he was at XRP Vegas. I haven't heard that speech.
if somebody has seen that or it was recorded, I would love to see that. Um, but all that being said, you know, I I have felt helped uh in doing what I'm doing. Um, not directly by Ripple, but certain people in the ecosystem that may be tangentally related to them. And somebody had to do it. somebody had to build something that allowed people to, you know, make sure that they could maintain exposure to XRP and generate income off of it, be able to borrow against it in a safe way, structured and regulated. And um, you know, Ripple isn't focused on that right now. They're focused on the institutional adoption because that's what we need to see the, you know, significantly higher prices. And I think that they're very close to that. with the acquisitions that they've made and everything, all the moves that they're making, seems like that's pretty close to done. You know, David Schwarz has talked about the mission being complete a couple times and that's why he retired, you know, and stepped away and now he's on a board uh there at Evernorth uh and some of the other things that he's doing. But, um yeah, I don't think it's gimmicky. I uh I think that they troll you when you have enough money to troll, you troll. Um to see them in the background of every single like photo at Bitcoin Vegas I thought was very very funny. Um but yeah I you know if you look at Oracle if you look at other B2B plays that are institutional they also use advertising campaigns and they're on billboards and they do a lot of Microsoft early on once you're established and everybody knows who you are you don't have to do as much as that but Ripple is pushing you know pouring gas on that right now and I do think that you know maybe that's in uh order for them to get public exposure exposure because they might be going public at some point in the future.
Steve, he says, "Hey Jake, if you are so confident in high price XRP, are you going why are you working so hard to build a business?"
Um, so I mean just openly, right? Like my mission in all of this isn't to become super wealthy. Um, I don't know if you've ever heard of Maslo's hierarchy of needs, but I I think there's really like four tiers for people. First tier is survival. Most people focus on that. Their time time horizon is week to week, monthto month.
They don't normally see much past that.
Um, and that's what they focus on. So, that's what they get. If your focus is status, which is the next tier in that, then you want to keep up with the Joneses, you have credit, you probably have a higher income paying job. um you know, you might live in an affluent area, but you you want you have an ego and you want to look good next to your peers. And there's again, there's nothing wrong with any of these, by the way. I'm not throwing shade at anybody.
I'm just talking about the four different tiers here. The next tier is freedom. Those people don't tend to own a whole lot of assets. Um they they value their time. uh they have longer duration stuff that they look at 5 10 year time frames and they tend to have significantly higher paying jobs.
They're often entrepreneurial. They want to create value in society. Uh but their ultimate goal is to be able to go and do and spend and be with whoever they want whenever they want. Um the fourth one is purpose.
And there are very few people that actually have a a strong enough purpose or a large enough goal that they can really build something in society that creates crazy value and get fulfillment from that and give back to society, right? Like so so that's what I focus on. I focus on purpose. The business is a block in in the rung of the ladder or rung on that ladder that allows me to get to that. My purpose is to advocate for the little guy. I I want to sit on boards. I want to know what's actually going on in the world. Um, I want to be in a position where I can affect change and like have the information to be able to help and and get this back to where, you know, everybody has opportunity.
So, in order for me to do that, if you understand how the world works, um you need relationships, you need capital, you need um clout, if you will, or respect from your peers. It's not just like, you know, and I kind of I always go back to my dad on this, but when he he was upset about the world and how it is and they're taking our data and the government's not doing what they should be doing, he was like, you need to call your senator and you need to get off Facebook. And I'm like, they don't care.
It's not an impact. Like, your one account on Facebook doesn't matter. You calling your congressman when you didn't lobby for him, he doesn't care what you think. he's going to file your note away and not even think about it again. You you have to have a presence in order to actually affect change in society. And so this is a piece of that for me. And I get to do a lot of good along the way. I get fulfillment from coming on here and answering questions and helping people.
Um and I get to create value, right? So that's what it is for me. The money and the business is a byproduct. Um, you know, if if the business was the end- all beall for me, I would have stayed CEO.
I promoted a CEO. I'm chairman, right?
Um, I've built a team of people that can execute on this. They they run the operations. They do all the compliance.
They do all the things in order to be able to make sure that this is done the right way for people like myself and everybody else in the XRP family.
Um, and my goal is to transcend this and be able to actually, you know, help make decisions that are in the best interest of the public and people so that they continue to have opportunities on the other side of the implementation of blockchain and AI and all these other things that are coming. So, that's why I'm doing what I'm doing. Um, and it is it's a means to an end. It's not the end for me.
Um, Reggie, he says, uh, Godfather, what's up, big man? Uh, the IMF only gives government nine interventions on their currency every six months and Japan did four times already in the last five days. Uh, when that ends, uh, is it game time? Uh, keep up plays. Yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about earlier in the live. I do think that they are running out of runway here in a very short period of time. they're not going to be able to continue to intervene in the currency market without the IMF stepping in. And I do think that that's going to be cause for them to raise interest rates. Um, how many strikes do they get? We'll have to see.
US Marine Corps, uh, Mr. Luke, he says, "Howdy, sir. Uh, what the shamans say?
Thank you for all that you do." Um, the shamans say that, uh, things are moving along. I'll say that.
Um Bob Dylan says uh BIS project Agora solution versus ODL for reverse carry trade.
I think they're one and the same to be honest with you.
Honest good to see you. He says, "Mr. Legacy, hi to the tea lady. Thanks for all you develop and create for us to take advantage of. You're always cover questions that I want to ask. wife and I thought you just you tonight wife and I tonight are just sending a truckload of flowers all your way. Thank you, man. Um I appreciate that. Excited to have you helping us build some stuff out there for the mastermind and um provide additional value for all the members there. Um yeah, excited to be working with you finally. Uh roughing it, ma'am. She says, "Hey, uh, or hi, can you please elaborate on what you mean by Japan has stepped in four times already recently?"
So, if if you want to look at the yen versus the USD, you can see big drops in uh the well actually it's appreciation of their currency against the US dollar.
Um they're doing that by manipulating the currency um either through selling treasuries uh or um by uh selling dollars against the yen or buying yen uh with dollars. And they're doing that in large sums to be able to move the market. That's what I mean by intervening. Uh they're using um yield curve control on their bonds. That hasn't worked. They're they're backed into a corner. They don't have any options left except to raise interest rates. and that's the last thing they want to do because they know it's going to unwind the carry trade until we have stable coin regulation here in the US.
That would cause a MadMax scenario. The the total financial system would collapse if they do it now. Uh but once we have that regulation by the OC, we will be able to move forward.
Anubis XRP they say legend. Can you talk about JP Morgano Ripple relationship and second bullish new partnership with Ripple? How does all this help XRP?
Um I am running on fumes here.
Um JP Morgan, Ono and Ripple. So Ono has partnered with um Bidd and Black Rockck for tokenization of treasuries.
They've also rolled out tokenized stocks. Uh JP Morgan um has Onyx as their infrastructure. they have a bridge through Axelr to these other ecosystems including the XRPL and Ono to be able to you know facilitate the trading of tokenized RWAS treasuries being one of those. Um and theno obviously settles those treasuries through the XRPL which I talked about earlier. the the EVM side chain is what I think uh JP Morgan needed in order to have interoperability between the XRPL and their ecosystem leveraging um AxelR. So that's kind of the ecosystem there and how that works and the different parties and what they're doing.
Um, and I haven't read enough on the bullish partnership with Ripple to be able to speak to that directly uh on this, but I will go do some research and get back to you.
All right, we got Kingdom Within. Uh, he says, "Hi there." Oh, I think I think we got through all of the super chats.
So, um, I'm sure that there's more here down at the bottom. I did tell people to quit, but I'm going to try to grab a few more before we wrap it up. We got Brandon. He's this legend. How to grow your wealth post price appreciation. How much control will central banks lose once blockchain tech is rolled out in mass in mass?
They won't lose any control, I don't think. Um, they just won't have control over XRP, right? So the Fed won't have the control that they currently have today over other countries. They won't be able to implement sanctions and like uh affect monetary policy will also you know be sovereign where we don't have to do things that are in the interest of the rest of the world uh that might be in the disinterest of the people here domestically in the US based on monetary policy to make sure that you know things are okay in the status quo and that won't be leveraged anymore.
Um, so you could look at that as loss of control if you wanted to for the US. But I think the US, you know, dollar denominated stable coins are going to continue to push the dollar to, you know, be one of the high highest used currencies and continue to sit in that position. Um, along with some of the other large cries that are coming up, uh, China and Russia and a few others.
Um, but how do you grow your wealth price post price appreciation?
very carefully.
Yeah, you you want to navigate risk well. You want to educate yourself. I think a lot of people, you know, or I've used this analogy before, but like a dog chasing a car, you don't know how to drive it. Um you might run yourself over. It could be a problem. But if you could educate yourself on how to drive that car before you caught it, um you could see a dog driving a car, right?
It's a weird analogy, but that would be where I would spend the next six months of your time postpric appreciation. Um maybe borrow against it, sell a little bit, put it in a very safe, conservative yield product for 6 months. use that additional liquidity and time to really educate yourself on all the financial information and business resources out there to make sure that you can be successful in managing that and align yourself with the right professionals so that you're getting that guidance and can learn from them. That would be the best way to grow your wealth growth price appreciation and really you wouldn't even be looking at growing your wealth. You're already in the boat that's going to continue to do that over time. If you're in digital assets, you're in crypto, and you're in the right ones, that part's the easy part.
They're going to continue to gain adoption. They're going to continue to appreciate in price, kind of set it and forget it. Just know that it's going to work for you, right?
It's how do you leverage that and make sure that you don't mess it up. It's about capital preservation and then um growth beyond that. So, you know, I I think you're in the right place. I think you're in the right boat if you're here.
And I would just continue to educate yourself and make sure that you're not making poor decisions uh and make sure that again that you're aligned with the right professionals to make sure that you're able to navigate that until you are self-sufficient. And I don't think you're ever quite self-sufficient.
There's always blind spots. I have blind spots all the time. That's why I have the team that I have around me because they're able to see things that I can't.
They bring things up to bring it to my attention. Um, I'm always the eternal optimist and uh, you know, sometimes there's oversightes and I think that's true for everybody. So that would be my recommendation if you want to continue to grow your wealth and preserve your wealth on the other side of you know the liquidity event that we are anticipating.
All right.
Um, tired men O2 says, "I need to see you talk slargue with Ben McKenzie.
Don't know who Ben McKenzie is, but I don't really want to argue with anybody.
I'm happy to have an informed debate um and a conversation, but not arguing."
Um, we got uh Devin Taylor. Uh, I'm not sure if it's a a fellow or a lady, but I appreciate the super chat. They say, "Are you taking summer interns? Have you ever hired an intern for a full-time position, five years in the m the US Marine Corps vet? Just finished my bachelor's in business, finance, minor in political science. Would be an honor for an opportunity." Uh, we actually just hired all the interns. We filled those positions for the summer. Um, we've done that. We've had probably I don't know 20 25 interns uh at the company. We pay well for interns. We have hired a couple people that have been interns uh at this point over the past three years. Uh we've been running that program for about 18 months for the internships at this point. And so you know again uh you can apply but I think they have currently already hired everybody. We have a lot of inbound on on the interns that want to come work here uh that are currently in school or have recently graduated.
Uh Sean says, "Wanted to say, God bless you and your family. I believe you he led me to hear from you. Should I get an LLC in Canada?" Cheers, brother. You should not get an LLC if you're in Canada unless you intend to move to the the US. Um LLC's are not recognized as pass through entities in Canada. uh you will be taxed here domestically in the US and then again they're in Canada unless you move here because Canada is residency tax based. So I don't know what your intentions are postp price appreciation. If you intend to stay in Canada I would work with you know Aaron Grinhos or another professional there that can help you make sure things are structured um based on Canadian tax law to be help to navigate that. On the other side of price appreciation, uh we got southern betrayal. They say, "Does swap lines help or hurt the dominoes?"
Um you need scalability on the XRPL. So payment channels, an implicit or explicit subnet, uh trust lines, uh and all of the other, you know, potentially batch payments. If that ever gets passed, it's deprecated at this point. I don't know that they're going to bring it back or not. Um, all those things definitely help the scale for payments and throughput on the XRPL.
We just did that one.
I think maybe we got through all of the super chats. So, I am going to go ahead and wrap it here. Again, appreciate you guys taking time out of your evening to come hang out with me and ask great questions. Um, if you want to work with us to set up the LLC, if you have at least $50 to $80,000 in crypto, we would love to work with you.
All you do is go to app.digital ascensiongroup.com and uh you can go through that there.
Again, if you need help, if you have questions, it's just [email protected] or digital info@digital ascension.com.
Um, both of those channels will get you to the team that can help answer those questions and help you navigate the setup of the LLC if you're new to it or if you're going to migrate an LLC over, be able to manage your digital assets.
If you want to work with this on the wealth management side, all you got to do is go to digitalpartners.net and uh go to the contact us form. Uh, if you have at least $100,000 in crypto, uh we would love to see you over there. uh you can get a financial professional to talk with you, somebody that's licensed, has a series 65, uh they can give you financial advice, which I can't do uh here on the channel. And then last but not least, if you do want to join a fantastic community, have in real life events, get access to private deal flow, and have the best financial education that I think is out there on the market, we would love to see you in the beyondbroke mastermind. the code if you want to check it out at beyondbro.com is beyondb broke all capitalized the number one and then mo like Mary Oscar gets you the first month for two bucks uh there again monthtomonth no contract cancel anytime uh if you want to try it out uh most people you know tend to stick around they do enjoy it I think we provide a lot of value there for the price point so with that I'm going to wrap it hope you guys have a wonderful week a wonderful night and we'll see you on the next
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