Statistical evidence indicates that straight white men commit the highest percentage of crimes against children, women, and LGBTQIA+ individuals, and addressing these issues requires focusing on the largest demographic group causing harm rather than spreading attention across all groups. This analysis emphasizes the importance of per capita statistics in understanding harm patterns and the need for men to develop emotional intelligence and empathy to prevent harmful behaviors.
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Dugald Debates 04-28-26 Religion and AmericaAjouté :
Uh, straight says, "Why bad statistically hard people?"
>> I have a damn spelling error on statistically on the first one. I just noticed it.
>> Oh well. Sorry. Go ahead. I'll have to fix that later.
>> Uh, that's okay. listen to that.
>> Uh oh, there we go. There we go.
>> Uh host, are you a straight sis white man?
>> No, but I am a sis white man. I'm not straight.
>> I'm gay.
>> Mhm.
>> Uh uh uh uh.
post. I'm going to like I'm going to like take like I'm going to hit you until you're quiet.
>> Are you?
>> Yeah. I'm going to spag your ball then.
Uh I'm going to like take like my two I'm going to take my twoh.
What are you doing?
>> What? So, I'm trying to figure out what the [ __ ] is going on.
>> Lots of [ __ ] bad.
>> See you later.
>> Hello. Are these children?
>> I I'm I I'm going to smack you.
>> Jokes on you. I like that.
>> Don't yuck someone's y.
>> Jokes on you.
>> Some [ __ ] will pay for that [ __ ] >> right?
Jokes's on you, [ __ ] >> Crazy work.
>> So angry when you point out that they're so bad. This is >> of his mind.
>> I changed it to my old one since I had a spelling error that pisses me off. What?
>> I guess we had someone, but they decided to leave. Oh, >> I don't know.
>> That could have been the start of a house song. Crazy beat. Uh uh uh uh uh.
>> Remixed his ass.
>> That's funny.
Like if you're going to come up here and like make threats, at least be able to speak while you do it.
Come on.
Crazy.
>> Gavin, are you ever 18?
>> Yeah.
>> All right. What do you want to say?
>> Uh, I would just say there's more white people per capita everywhere compared to black people. Like the population of the United States. There's obviously more white people in the United States than not.
>> Yeah. Per capita is what we're talking about. Those stats are per capita.
>> Yeah. But like you that's like a dumb argument because it's like you're going to say yeah more population of people can commit more crimes.
>> You do know that per capita >> has nothing to do with number >> white people there's more white people that's not what per capita means Mexican or whatever.
>> I'm going to need you to go look up what per capita means.
>> Per capita more white people in every state compared to black.
>> What does it mean?
>> Mexican.
What does it mean?
>> It means more people per state. What the [ __ ] do you mean?
>> It's not what the [ __ ] per capita means.
>> Elito everywhere.
>> Imagine.
>> Listen.
He said per more of them.
>> Her capital means more of them. You know that is in the narrow. Seriously, because this can't be real. It can't be real.
>> He said per capita means there's more room.
>> I [ __ ] it.
What the [ __ ] >> Oh boy.
>> Radiance, are you over 18?
>> Hey y'all. Yeah, I'm over 18. I'm 38.
I'll be 36 on Saturday.
>> Awesome. Well, happy early birthday.
Mine was last week. I know Taurus for sure.
>> Yeah. So, what's going on? What you want to say?
I can't stay long, but I wanted to say that um I agree with your prompt and I don't know how long y'all have been up here today, but I think a lot of times it comes down to suppression ultimately.
I think suppression a lot of times will breed perversion and I think suppression a lot of times will breed anger. And I think a lot of straight men just in general, not necessarily their um sexuality or sexual orientation, not necessarily that, but a lot of times they are suppressing a lot of their desires, a lot of what they want and they don't live the way they actually want. And um and I think that makes them angry. And I understand about it like down other people.
>> I'm sorry. Go ahead. That's actually the reason why I make this prompt because I I am firmly believe that we need to retach and and teach the new young men coming into the world or soon someday to be men in the world to to not be predators the way we teach them now. And that it's okay to have emotions. Like right now we teach boys and men they're only allowed to have three things. You can you can be mad, you can be stoic, and you can be occasionally happy.
Those are the three things they're taught they can do.
So like we got to re we got to redo this. Like the compassion is and empathy and things like that, those are natural to people. But like anything, if you don't use them, you lose them.
And we've taught men that they don't have it, so they don't use it. So they've lost it. And now we have these issues and they're mad at me for pointing out to them.
That's what it feels like anyway.
Hey Ariel, >> Ariel.
>> Radius, do we lose your love?
>> My bad. No, you're right.
>> No, I I uh totally agree with with what you're just saying. Um and I think to the empathy point, I think that's a huge freaking issue. Um but a lot of times it can't be extended because it's not given to self and they disconnect from themselves which definitely doesn't allow them to connect to others or see you know what I mean see themselves with other people because they don't see themselves when they look in the mirror to begin with >> right they don't see that this this causes them harm too >> 100% >> they don't see it most of the time let's see oh boy >> thank you I gotta go y'all Have a good day.
>> Thank you, Radiance. Appreciate you.
>> You too, Radiance. Be well.
>> All right. Uh, White Monster, you're over 18.
>> Yep.
>> Oh, I am not hopeful by this name, but okay. What did you want to say?
>> I'm drawing my name.
>> Just nothing. Go ahead.
>> Trigger triggers your your >> No, it doesn't.
So would you agree with me that the LGBTQ primarily people who molest little children?
>> No, it's primarily straight white men.
>> Then they're not straight if they're molesting children. Do you agree?
>> That's No, they can still be straight.
>> You can't be straight if you're molesting.
>> It's about power, not about sexuality.
It's usually about power.
>> No, pedophile is not straight.
>> Watch your words, please. What do you mean watch my words? Are we adults here?
>> No, but Tik Tok doesn't care if you're an adult. Tik Tok don't give a [ __ ] if you're an adult.
>> So you self censor.
>> Yeah, because Tik Tok will take you out.
It's not about me. It's going to take you out. It's not going to let you >> think it's going to take me out.
>> It literally does. It'll rem have me remove you from the live. It gives me a big old warning, restricts me, all this other stuff, and then it tells me to remove you.
>> You understand that context matters, right?
>> You do understand that the algorithm doesn't give a [ __ ] scans for >> I will guarantee you that it is >> dude shut up. I'm not going to sit here and argue about it. Go away.
>> Either use Tik Tok language or shut the [ __ ] up. Like it's not that hard. Hey AB, >> they don't they don't understand boundaries.
>> It's not vocabulary.
>> If it were me in my up to and if I wanted to say whatever, I would say go ahead. Say whatever the [ __ ] you want.
Watch what happens. But I can't help but Tik Tok take you out. It's not my problem.
on apostate ape got taken out in like 3 seconds after saying the r slur.
>> Yeah, >> it's it's happened.
>> I was on his panel when it happened. I knew the moment he said it, I was like [ __ ] >> [ __ ] >> He's about to wait. Was he the one who said it or was it?
>> Yes.
>> We got to remember some people still I I'm I'm trying to slowly deconstruct my my partner from saying it too cuz Chicago it's a very >> a very common thing to be said. Oh, it's it's a common thing in the >> and I don't like it either. So, I'm trying to it's going to be a slow go, but we're working on it. We're working on it.
>> It's the millennial mentality.
>> It's not about just you being taken out.
They also restrict my life from being stuck and then we can't have any conversations, my guy. So, yes, I am self-censoring so that I don't get the message taken down. Just because we have to change a word so that you understand what we're talking about doesn't mean that we don't want to still have the conversation. I can't help the parameters I'm given. I can only work with them.
Like >> we are standing on a street corner. We could use all the words we want, buddy, but we're on someone else's platform on which they're legally required to maintain some type of level of decorum.
Right.
If you don't like it, white monster, go [ __ ] somewhere else. Like, what the f Why are you bitching to me? I'm not the one who made the company. Shut up. Jesus [ __ ] Christ.
>> Crybaby ass [ __ ] >> Sorry. He can't help you. He doesn't exist.
>> Jesus Christ.
Are you over 18?
>> Yes, I am.
>> All right. What do you want to say?
Um I am on the complete opposite side but I would like to have a discussion on why people have uh these ideas.
>> Well because statistically these are true statements.
>> Well I can tell you statistically the younger generation like my generation doesn't um how do I put this for Tik Tok? um necessarily agree with the whole LGBTQIA.
>> I don't care if you agree with being gay. That's not the point of what we're talking about.
>> Yeah, I'm well aware >> because my existence I don't care if you agree with I don't agree with your existence. But there we are. What's the point?
>> Yeah, I know. But like you're not going to reproduce.
>> I am.
>> What is with you guys thinking that gay people don't reproduce? We have children. You do know this, right? You take other people's children. That's not reproduc.
>> No, we don't. We have our own children.
>> We have working parts, right?
>> You do know that lesbians still have working parts, right?
>> Mhm.
>> We still can two men and two women, babe. Yeah, sure. Okay.
>> No, that's not what I said, dumbass.
>> It's about surrogacy. You weren't listening, >> right? You do understand that we have pregnancies with lesbians all the time, >> right? Our own children, right?
>> Mhm.
>> Okay. So then go away. You're clearly not here to talk.
>> I'd like to have an honest discussion with you.
>> The [ __ ] I didn't kick you, fella. I don't >> It was me, fella. cuz I invited you when someone was already up and you kind of unmuted when we had you quiet if you want.
>> Yeah, he kept unmuting. I don't like that.
>> It there's just kind of we try to run please so people can actually see the words when they're put on their screen for those who have hearing impairments so we can't have people interrupting.
>> And how you guys doing today?
>> Good fella. How are you?
>> How you doing? So I just want to know what what is the uh what is the debate here because I >> Well, first real quick, are you are you a real quick?
>> Yes, sir. All right, perfect. Um, this is just basically trying to point out that men need to stop blaming other people for what's going on in the world and start actually fixing the problems.
>> I get that. But wouldn't you say that your statement in, you know, the text behind you kind of does exactly that?
>> What do you mean?
>> You just said we need to stop judging other men for problems.
>> It's not what I said.
>> Say it again, man.
I said that men need to start dealing with their problems instead of passing blame to other people.
>> I I still I I feel like what I said kind of still stands.
>> Nobody said anything about Well, I mean, I guess you're in judgment, but what difference does that make?
>> Cuz what you just said, you kind of contradict that in the text behind your head.
>> No, these are statistically true statements, though. This isn't a judgment. This is just what is the reality of life. That's why I'm saying men need to deal with the problem because this is reality.
>> I I still I kind of just don't understand >> h what what part is making you confused?
>> Cuz what you just said contradicts what's behind your head.
>> Statistically, these are true.
>> How are those? How are those statistics?
Those are just words. No, the statistics are that straight men are t especially white ones tend to be the ones who harm children percentage- wise statistically per capita. Straight sis men are statistically the ones that harm women through DV and rape. Straight men statistically are the ones who especially white ones commit harm, violent acts usually against LGBTQIA. So what is confusing? Why not just say people?
>> Because it's straight men, not people.
>> That's not entirely true.
>> If 90% of the population of of the male population, men in this country are harming women, why would I include women in that conversation when they're not the ones causing the harm?
>> Women aren't the only people that get harmed on a day-to-day basis.
>> People What is your point? when statistically over when there's 90% the problem here, why would I go after the 10% problem here?
>> Because people hurt people.
>> So, you just don't want to take any accountability at all for the fact that it is men who are primarily doing this.
>> You want me to everybody because it hurts your feelings?
>> My feelings are not hurt.
>> Well, then why are you worried about me calling out men if it doesn't apply to you? Why is it hurting your feelings?
>> I'm not worried about it. I'm just saying I feel like >> bring you came up here to bring it up.
So clearly it bothers you somehow.
>> It doesn't bother me. It's the only point of >> Okay, then why would you make that point? If >> it doesn't apply to you, why would you make that point?
>> Did you not just hear what I said? It's the only point of context I have to go off of. You literally have those words behind your head.
>> I have straight men. You're saying people. I'm saying straight men. I'm >> differentiating. And and to argue that point, I'm saying people. So once again, >> no, the point is not people. Again, if 90% of people are men and those 90% of them are harming people, other people, then why would I talk to the other people?
>> Because it's not just straight men.
>> Are you [ __ ] dumb?
>> It mostly is. That's the problem.
It's not entirely true.
>> You want to go to a conversation about how true statistically the straight men are the ones harming other people.
>> I don't know, man.
>> Don't I don't care what you don't know.
Go read about it. You'll find out.
>> Straight men harm people.
>> You guys are hostile. Holy [ __ ] I came in here with the guy >> because you're not listening. You're making stupid broad statements that you know are not a counter to what I'm saying. I'm differentiating and I'm telling you statistically men, straight men harm the most people.
I don't know the statistics.
>> Then go research them. That's a you problem, not a me problem. The [ __ ] the [ __ ] What are we talking about?
>> Why do they always do this?
>> Hi.
>> Hi. Way of life. Are you ever 18? Yes, I'm 19.
>> I want to say one thing.
>> Okay, so back to that soldier guy who come here and said, "I want to have a civil conversation."
>> That guy was literally in a live saying that after he got cheated on, he was he went on a killing speed in the military.
So, I don't think his judgment is the best thing to be going off of, right?
But secondly, yeah, I don't get what that last guy was talking about. He was just I like >> he didn't want calling out straight men in particular. He wanted me to say everybody causes >> No, no, no. I got the point right and I would I like like I go I got it as soon as said it the first time and I was just like okay he's going to get it eventually. He did not get it.
>> No he didn't.
>> I was just like dang >> that's willful on their part.
>> Like oh gosh >> it was willful on their part.
>> Yeah it has to be willful. There's no way you're just like inherently that stupid.
>> That's what I was thinking.
>> I've been noticing especially in the states. You'd be surprised.
>> Yeah. You know what? You know what my mom had been saying? She always says common sense ain't so common, >> right? All right.
>> It l it really isn't.
>> All right. Way of life. Well, I appreciate you being up here, friend. Uh I'm going to drive you back down. Do you have anything else?
>> You have a great window.
>> All right. Appreciate you.
>> Probably you.
>> All right. Uh what do I call you? What is whatever that symbol is?
>> No, you could just call me Cross.
>> All right. Cross. Uh what did you want to say? Uh, I would ask like what's like the like what's like the the message that's supposed to be derived here like just positing that men commit the most violence in like in opposition to LGBTQ.
>> No, it's that straight men cause the most harm and we need to deal with that instead of trying to pass the blame on to the people they attack.
Um, well, when you say blame onto the people they attack, you mean >> because straight men make laws against gay people's existence and trans people's existence, even though straight men are the reason that they're they're making these laws up. Uh, that because they're the ones that cause the harm, but they blame gay people and trans people. Uh, straight men harm women, but yet women are the ones who get restrictions on their bodies and get told to stay at home and all this other nonsense from red pillars and all these other massive amounts of men in the world. Uh, the men who graped their wives on that website by the millions come to an example. Uh, straight men are also the ones who commit the most hate crimes against people, minority groups, most specifically black people uh, and LGBTQIA.
And by when I say black people in that I mean straight white men specifically um but also against uh gay people as well.
So straight people, straight men, straight cis, heterosexual men are the problem. We need to learn how to deal with how we teach men to exist in this world better than we do now.
>> Okay. So yeah, I think a lot of things that you said are true, but I also think the perspective on how like we view this is also important. I don't think it's the case that you're referencing as a problem in any of these groups. I think general problems are present in all groups whether it be um a person you know obviously extending the issue from their own personal reason and receiving. So when you say that um men are the cause of some type of specific issue and they're and there's also men who are kind of acknowledging other issues in other groups when they have issues. It doesn't really posit that we shouldn't pay attention to both of the like they're both still both groups cause issues.
>> Nowhere did I say that we shouldn't. But what I am pointing out is the bigger problem because again statistically overwhelmingly these demographics are the ones who harm these demographics the most. So why I'm going to ask you the same thing I asked the person that came up before. Why would I address the minority group who's getting harmed by this other group and why instead of addressing that other group?
>> Well, that's what I'm saying. Like you would like that's why I'm saying like when you're talking about problems, it depends on specifically what you're talking about like what specific problem because both groups cause problems. So all of them are for you. When I'm talking about a harm against women, rape and DV, those two things statistically are men.
>> Straight white men. Uh >> maybe I can hold on.
>> Go ahead, Benny. Go ahead. Who else?
>> I just I have an example here for you, Cross.
>> I don't need an example. I understand very well.
>> Okay, just hear me out. Okay, please.
Now, women do not feel comfortable walking to their cars at night. Why do you think that is?
>> That's for a multitude of reasons.
That's um I could use like a lot of references to other things. Essentially, I would say that one is like a it's a combination of the actual experiences of women like women who actually endure these things and then they kind of like it builds like a reality of like how they feel about um just men in general.
>> I'm I'm going to Okay, I'm I'm going to I'm going to pause you there. Hi or Tris, can you can you answer my question? That's an easy question to answer. It's [ __ ] >> So women don't So women don't experience it. You let the women on the panel answer it. Cross >> there are two women wanting to answer it for you and you're trying to tell them what their experience is.
>> Anyways, the answer is >> let them answer.
>> Let them answer.
>> Is it men? Is it men?
>> It is men.
>> What I just said.
>> You said a lot of things but a lot of things trying to bl not blame men. You literally went around men.
>> No, I'm not.
>> Yes, you did.
>> I just said women experiencing >> I'm not doing dishonest [ __ ] No, you literally mentioned everything but men. You said multiple issues, things they experience, a world they built around their feelings is what you said.
You did not say men.
>> And not to mention when me and Tris were trying to answer, he kept overtalking us. So >> imagine trying to say what women women experience while overtalking women and then misqu and then lying about what you said.
>> Crazy lady.
>> That is crazy.
>> It's really that simple. Like until women feel safe to walk to their cars at night, >> men are a problem.
>> Men are a problem. That it's it's that simple.
the [ __ ] Here he is. He's back in the request and the relief that he feels.
>> I'm in my position.
>> Are you going to lie again?
>> I I've never lied. Can you literally said You literally said You literally said women is based on women's experiences and the way they feel. Shut up. I am still giving the quote. Shut up.
Then you said it is based on their feelings and the world they built around them based on those feelings. And then that's pretty much where Benny came in because I was talking about we had I had interjected to respond. You did not mention men were the problem. You said it was a world built on what women feel, their reality based on what they feel.
You did not mention men. Everybody in the chat heard it.
>> You are denying it. You were saying that you said it was men.
>> So when I I didn't say the word men. I said there were Okay. So when I say experiences, what experiences am I talking about?
>> I don't know because you gave a lot of excuses. When I said it was straight No.
When I said it was straight. When I said it was straight men, you saides. When I said it was straight men, you didn't agree. You said it was their experience.
>> I said what you said is true.
>> No, you didn't. You said a lot of it was true, but you disagree with a lot of other stuff. Stop. What did I disagree with?
>> My god, you are a lying ass mother gaslighting [ __ ] >> No, this chat heard what you said. I heard what you said.
>> Listen, >> lonely enough.
>> They need to get lonier.
>> Like he don't even know what the [ __ ] he said.
>> Listen, I'm too sick for this [ __ ] >> R the piss me off.
>> Literally lying ass. You literally lied.
Yes, you did.
[ __ ] the whole [ __ ] you trying to paint as oh it's all in women's heads if they just wouldn't talk to each other so much they wouldn't freak each other out so badly as opposed to the fact that we all have experiences there's probably not a woman in your life that does not have some type of violent experience with a straight male so it's not that we're we're scaring each other that's crazy talk >> also men are victims of the like issue here, right?
>> Right. Like so guys, nice guys like like me or or Dooall or perhaps even yourself there, Cross >> are are looked at as possibly dangerous.
You know, like if we're walking up to uh maybe a woman who's trying to get into her car uh and you're walking up about 20 30 feet away, do they know that you're nice? No. What are they going to assume? They're going to assume the worst, >> right? And you said your experiences. I had literally just said it was straight men and you tried to disagree with me by saying it was their experiences and a reality they built on their feelings.
That was what you said in response to me saying flat out it was straight men. So don't hand me that [ __ ] that you [ __ ] agreed. You didn't [ __ ] agree. You tried to find other things to blame it on.
[ __ ] [ __ ] Gaslighting ass [ __ ] Now women, choose the [ __ ] bear. This is why.
>> Yeah, don't take it.
>> Choose the crocodiles, too.
>> Also, Freddy, I see you there in the chat there over on YouTube. I see you.
>> Straight men attacking women is not multiple reasons.
What the [ __ ] All right. Uh, cross up finger flaming heart stuff. What? What's your What do I call you?
>> Uh, sorry. I think I must have been scrolling through lives and accidentally joined cuz I don't know how I randomly just got back and I'm in the box.
>> Well, you drop down then. I appreciate you being here. Thanks.
>> No. Degree has a question since I don't want to hear his voice. He says, "Can you ask the women why so many women choose bad guys over safe men for one night stands?" And he said earlier in a comment that he had some type of study for that he hasn't quite produced.
>> Even I know the answer to that question though agree that's terrible.
>> Go ahead.
>> He's actually being serious.
>> I choose feminine men. So I I can't relate. So can someone tell me the answer?
>> That's what I want to know.
Women choose bad guys because men do not present themselves as bad guys to the women until well after the fact when they're kneedeep in are often married. A matter of fact, there are quite a lot of men who commit domestic violence and grape on women after marriage uh because they were a nice guy beforehand.
>> I thought we were talking leather jackets and motorcycle bad guys. This this isn't an episode agree. But but also they have to keep in mind that the majority of the time it is in a relationship they wear a mask because they're trying to get this girl and once they have her the mask falls off.
>> There's a lot of court cases. So, dating the leather jacket motorcycle man versus dating the pencil neck in the [ __ ] suit doesn't change the fact that they're all bad men because they're all [ __ ] attacking women. It doesn't [ __ ] matter.
Your point is moot.
>> And like my friend TP said in chat, women are women. Every man. Sorry, I was still speaking so I don't know who the [ __ ] you are, but you can go on mute for a second until I'm done. Thank you.
>> I love what my friend TP said in chat.
Women aren't right mind readers. Who knew? See, they expect us to [ __ ] know everything. That's why whenever they lose their [ __ ] in the house, we're the first person to ask where it went.
Honey, when was that appointment? Like, we're their mothers.
It's weird, >> but the mind reader never that.
>> Right. So, to answer your question, Clay, I didn't say all men and specifically. I said the different types of men. All types of men are attacking women. We were talking about types of men. He was referring to the bad guy, quote unquote, you know, the leather jacket, you know, motorcycle guy. And I said, it doesn't matter if it's the leather jacket guy or the pencil pusher in the suit because all of them do it.
or the gay guy, right?
>> No. Statistically, straight white men specifically are the ones who attack women and gay men.
>> So, they're so gay men never attack women.
>> I didn't say that. What I said was statistically straight men are the ones who are doing it. They are the problem.
Why would I talk to a minority group of people when it is a majority group that is a problem?
>> So, you only care about the people. You only want the main problem.
>> I care about the main problem. If the main problem is straight men, why would I talk to other other groups that aren't the main problem?
>> So, you don't care about the >> That's like putting out fires around your house instead of the one on your house.
>> That's [ __ ] dumb.
>> No, that's like putting out the fire on your house and then not worrying about >> gay men are not the ones attacking women. It is straight men. So why would I put out the the gay guy fire when it's not the gay guy fire that's burning?
>> You just agreed that there are some gay guy fires.
>> Okay, then those gay guys get dealt with by the law, but gay but straight men do not. Straight men are the ones that are the problem. So why again would I worry about what gay men are doing when they are not the problem?
>> I think that people attacking women are the problem. You're denying the fact that statistically it is straight men doing it and you don't want to fess up to it or deal with that. You want to pass blame on to other people. You're literally passing blame to other people when other people are not the problem.
If statistically straight men are doing it, why again would we want to deal with other people when they are not the problem?
>> So you don't So you only care about some attacks on women? I care about the bulk of them, the reason for them, the stem of it, the source of it, which is straight men.
>> Clay, don't be disappoint.
>> Well, the source of it isn't your sexuality. It's being straight men. Why is it straight? Why is it statistically straight men then?
>> Clay, you just you admitted that that they are the the largest portion of of this upset, right?
>> And the host admitted that he doesn't care about the gay men attacking women.
>> He did not. He did not.
>> He's saying that he's indirectly I'm the largest subset here. Okay.
>> Okay. We're not going to play with words, but hold on, Benny. Give me a second.
>> All right, guys. There's 48 people.
Excuse you. I'm making a mod announcement. Shut the [ __ ] up.
>> Not going to [ __ ] over talk.
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Let's see if we can actually have some honest conversations, not disingenuous ones. And thank you all so much for being here. Can I ask Clay a question when I get a chance?
>> Absolutely. Go ahead, >> Clay. Let's say we go with your perspective of broadening it to just people are dangerous. What is your solution then under that broader perspective when we know for a fact that a good amount of women are attacked period? What what how do you think we would approach that?
>> Well, look, you the law is what the law is. We have laws to protect.
>> It's not working. Like, >> okay, we need better law enforcement. We need to train people better. We need to have more awareness.
>> So, don't deal with the problem. Just put up band-aids and roadblocks to try to make it harder for the problem to do what it does.
>> Well, you're never going to solve violence. That's just you literally can by by teaching men that you're allowed to have more emotions than stoicism, anger, and and the occasional laugh.
>> And women have decided not to birth you, right? And teach men to stop being predators. Stop teaching that they have to get the girl, that the girl is a prize, that you have to have the woman, you have to uh like this predatory action that men have toward women, toward all people. We don't have to teach that.
>> I don't I don't think that most men have a predatory nature towards >> literally every single thing about society says otherwise.
>> Yeah, except for the gay men. You're just a bunch of heteroses. Just a bunch of [ __ ] >> So why don't you want to deal with the problem instead of throwing serves?
just a bunch of [ __ ] How about you suck a dick and die?
>> You're just angry that other people have sex that you don't like. That's crazy.
>> Wow.
>> Imagine being mad at people for having sex that you don't like or for having attractions that you don't like.
>> That's way that's just really doesn't like it. Keep in mind that those who focus on this may just be curious.
>> Can we get a round of applause for Clay there? Good way to represent your uh who you're defending there. Really good way to represent that, >> right? [ __ ] >> Here you go. There's your round of applause. You win.
>> The selfhatred was loud.
>> Just so loud.
Heterophobe.
You just want to be angry at gay people.
That was really clear. Hence making my point even more valid. He was heteros. Wait, wait, wait, wait. He >> He was heterosexual.
>> That's what he claimed. Yeah.
>> Yeah. My ass.
>> He's just a heterophobe.
>> Game or heterophobe.
>> Anyways, keep tapping you guys.
>> They just they shout slurs when they can't uh you know make their point like stick. Yeah, that's exactly what it was.
He realized his point was stupid and he didn't like it.
>> Imagine throwing rocks at the glass house.
>> I'm telling you, >> [ __ ] see-through darling. Just >> I just want to go up to their house and like spray Windex on their closet and be like >> Lysol >> and be like, "I see you.
listening. Who?
>> I see you.
>> Hi.
>> And I'm right behind you with the raid.
>> The raid is crazy.
>> Like, we see you in that closet. Hi.
>> That closet clear [ __ ] >> right?
>> We should add C to LGBTQIA for the closeted and just bring them in.
>> Yes, I a thousand% agree. And >> she said no.
SJ, I'm fully aware that white men are a problem are the main problem. A matter of fact, the prompt I originally had it said white men, but I had a spelling error in it and I was mad about it. So, I had to take it down and put this one up for now. Anyway, Adam, you're over 18.
>> Background noise.
>> I are you talking to me from like two houses over? What >> is he in a wind turbine >> or like a loudspeaker or something?
>> Where are you at?
>> And why is there children's music in the >> How are you people doing? How are you people doing?
>> Is he on a carousel?
>> Are you stalking children?
>> I don't like that. That was weird.
>> That was creepy.
>> [ __ ] me. He's calling from the Artemis is wild.
>> It gave Pennywise. I didn't like it.
>> It did. They all float down here.
>> It gave Penny Wise. I don't like it.
>> Gross.
>> I love I love that on my TV, but I don't >> Not on the back, >> right? Not on my live.
>> Oh, hell.
Did you get the hit?
>> No. Look is in the chat in the request.
>> Was in the >> Oh god.
>> Oh, >> at least no.
>> [ __ ] no.
>> Who that is?
>> Flip a coin. The themm or no degree.
>> Let's put it this way, Benny. They think that a vi a a viable source is Noah's arc.com.
Yeah, they're archans.
>> Okay.
>> Well, Benny seems excited, so let Benny talk to Peekaoo. Have >> fun, Benny. Have fun.
>> Have fun. Hi, Peekaboo. You're gonna talk to Benny.
>> Peekaboo. What's going on? What brings you up?
>> Well, I wanted to talk about the topic, but the host >> I It's not Noah's arc.com. It's Noah's arcscans.com.
>> Okay, my bad.
Beyond that, let's talk about the topic.
What what what do you uh want to discuss?
>> Straight men harm kids, not LGBT.
>> Yeah, that's true.
>> Well, wouldn't you say it's both?
>> What is with this all lives matter people all of a sudden?
>> Yeah, >> we're we're talk about statistically, right? Like like the largest subset of people that harm kids are straight men.
>> Oh, so you're not worried about LGBT?
>> No, because we're not really the problem, >> right? When we try to tackle uh like a a multi-pro issue, you want to start with the largest problem first, right?
>> I do.
>> Well, generally, would you?
>> Um, not necessarily. So, okay, back to the fire uh analogy that we had earlier.
If your house is on fire and then say like your yard is also on fire, do you put your yard out first or do you put the house out first?
>> The house.
>> Okay. So, let's just apply that to to this prompt. Okay. So, if the largest problem is straight men, then why wouldn't we want to put the focus on that?
But don't you think with saying straight men harm kids when it's also LGBT that maybe it's a way to shift some of the blame?
>> Okay. So, are you like an all lives matter person?
Like >> that's what it sounds like.
>> Yeah. When Black Lives Matter was going on, were you were you the type to just say, "Well, actually all lives matter.
It's not just black lives."
>> It depends on the context. Wow. Wow.
>> So, >> you're you're trying to demean like diminish the fact that that straight men are the largest subset of who harms kids by saying that all people that harm kids are are the problem.
It just seems like it seems like every every issue that people have is with with straight men. And at a certain point, if you tell someone that they're the villain, they're just going to assume that identity.
>> Not necessarily. So it if if a problem is not addressed, then the problem continues. The the point of this live is to address the problem, right? So like say you have a booger in your nose and nobody tells you about it. Is that booger just going to fall out on its own? Probably not. Until somebody tells you to pull that booger out of your nose, it it's going to stay there.
So, do you feel like having something up here that says straight men harm kids when they're straight men who are probably watching this who haven't touched a single kid?
>> If it doesn't apply, they let it fly.
Most people who that does not pertain to won't comment or be were bothered by it because it doesn't pertain to them.
>> And touching isn't the only form of harm. No.
>> What other forms of harm?
What?
>> I don't who asked that? Who said that?
>> AK was asking.
>> Yeah, she said touching. And I said touching isn't the only form of harm.
>> So, what other forms of harm?
>> Verbal, >> psychological, >> emotional.
>> Yeah. There's not just touching, there's actual physical abuse like hitting, kicking.
>> Yeah. Right there on the bottom is saying right. Uh, and for people on YouTube, he's saying the straight guy here, I don't feel targeted, but the crime stats are very clear. I like as a sis man, you know, I agree.
>> I don't care about him.
>> But no, you have to said straight men are being targeted with this and then when a straight man says he doesn't feel targeted, you're saying you don't care about him. You're literally just came up here to be a contrarian then. No, because why do I have to change my whole argument? Because a random person says, "Oh, I don't have to change your whole argument. I'm saying the fact that you discounted it >> when you had just got done saying that we're discounting other things." You're being a hypocrite.
>> How am I being a hypocrite?
>> Oh my god. I can't teach you words.
Peekaoo. Go back to your conversation.
>> Benny, let's let's get back to the conversation here. So I don't see how uh making this you know like statement of of a statistic I is personal to anybody right like just because a a man may be straight uh does not mean that that specific person is at like is going to do these things right now they can take it personally but that's not going to change the fact that they are the largest subset Right.
>> I have a question.
>> I have a question.
>> We're We're talking here.
>> Do you think that a child predator can be rehabilitated?
>> No.
>> Good. You've got some grounding there.
Okay. Sorry. Carry on, Penny.
>> Okay. So if they don't take it personally as they shouldn't right then they are now aware that that they are part of a group that isn't going to probably listen to anybody other than other people of that group. That is the main point here that that straight men don't listen to anybody else probably other than other straight men. the more straight men that are aware of these things, they can help, you know, spread that awareness and then perhaps, you know, we can teach our our children as they grow up that that they don't need to, you know, be a part of this statistic.
>> Are you a straight man?
>> No.
>> Wait, so how would you be contributing to being that voice of straight men?
is educating.
>> Yeah. What are you talking about? I I'm trying to bring up the point here.
>> I know, but you said the more straight men that Wait.
>> Right. Yeah. You're saying that if they take it like personally and then they they accept the image of the villain that this is going to be negative. I disagree. I think that if they are aware of the issue and are able to communicate that issue to other people of that subset who are more willing to listen to each other then yeah we can we can get some. So you're saying if straight people are straight men are seeing this they can be the voice for the other straight not be the voice but also >> yeah they can start taking care of their own. Yeah. Clean house, take care of their own. Yeah.
>> Right. The the problem is how men are taught in this country to be in this country like and how they're taught to be in society.
For example, men are taught for the most part that they're only allowed to have like three emotions at the most. And that is anger, uh stoicism, and and the occasional chuckle or laugh. But but anything else, you're not allowed to cry, you're not allowed to be sad, you're not allowed to be like, they can't have other feelings. On top of that, they're taught predatory actions even though they don't realize it. They have to get the girl. They have to win the girls, win her like she's an object.
Uh they have to own or be women have to be submissive, especially all this red pill [ __ ] lately that's been really permeating especially the younger generation right now and has already permeated most of the boomer societ generations. It's a big deal. Like these are terrible things that we teach men and it it doesn't help. It harms them just as much as it does the people they take it out on. Have Have you ever listened to like Andrew Tate or or any of the like very popular uh podcast with like young straight men?
>> No, I don't do that stuff, but I watch a documentary so I've heard some of what they say.
>> Yeah. And that's what we're talking against because that type of rhetoric that they give is incredibly dangerous >> because it leads to these things.
>> I mean, it feels like you might agree with us a little bit.
>> I'm learning.
>> For example, Nick Fuentes is a huge right-wing uh what they call manosisphere like uh male uh influencer guy. Yeah. the Groper guy. He He talks horrible about women. Matter of fact, when Roie Wade got overturned, he said, "Great, now it's my your body, my choice." And all of his millions of little followers started going around saying it, too, cuz they don't think women as are people. They hate women.
>> I literally had a man say it to me in the grocery store after he said that.
>> Oh, >> the oh, your body, my choice thing.
That's what I was missing.
>> I've heard it out loud a few times.
Several men came up on my panel after that happened and said it to several women on this panel.
>> Not on flanks. Not in this >> were saying it like in recess and stuff.
It's wild, you know, like it it's clear that that kids growing up are are seeing this. They think it's funny. They think it's edgy. Uh and then they stick with it. I I just had somebody on my life not that long ago like uh I don't know if Gemini is here, but Gemini was with me on on that one. And the dude was a major griper and it was just saying like the wildest stuff and they think it's funny.
Uh >> the reaction.
>> What was that?
>> They they tiredly feed off the reaction.
They're not committed to what they say.
It's crazy. I got a 17-year-old and him and his friends say the wildest things.
I've had so many lectures and they just they're not attached to it. It's so weird.
>> Yeah. And like I really truly don't know if they are attached to it, but I feel like if they say it enough, uh, you know, like you >> That's my problem. If you're going to say it a whole bunch and tap into it, Yeah. you're you're eventually going to start believing it the more you do it.
>> Yeah.
>> It's a joke and they say it long enough that eventually becomes a real way of thinking. So, >> and I have a kindergartener boy and my whole goal is to have him avoid all this garbage.
>> Yeah.
But don't you think at least part of this issue is the fact that I know the main host is not going to agree but that people are leaving the church and there's no central >> need Jesus >> avenue.
>> The church is responsible for more essay than any other organization on the face of the earth right there. church has handed has handed children into abusers hands. Look up uh Camp Canuck.
>> Not to mention there's not a single denomination whose church does not carry uh SA sexual assault insurance because their people can't did quit kids.
>> That's a people issue though.
>> But the churches are the ones where it's happening because they're using Christianity as a cover for it. So the fact of the matter is no, it is not because people are leaving the church because the church breeds this type of activity >> and it goes unreported in the churches because they handle it within the church so it doesn't cause a scandal which causes even more damage because they're not getting the actual true professional help that they need to >> they tell their priest and preacher their their confessions or whatever and they tell them, "Yeah, I'm touching kids." And what do they do with that person? and they counsel them and then pray with them and then they don't seek repercussions uh legally. Usually they either just keep it on the quiet >> or the church itself is the one doing it. just this week like Russell or it was within the last like 70 or seven days Russell Brand has been like all over the media circuit because of I think a book or something and admitting that that he has like slept with a 16-year-old girl and and basically uh you know he found Jesus and then that that absolves him of like all of the problems uh that he had. Uh when he was asked about you know any verses that may apply to him or anything like that, the guy couldn't come up with [ __ ] He He's lying and he's using >> he's still looking for that verse.
>> Yeah. He's still looking for that [ __ ] He's using the the like vehicle of Christianity uh to to protect him. And and that's what happens a lot of the time, you know, is that a lot of people are like, "Oh, well, he found God.
Apparently, he's good now."
Well, but also the victims get overlooked within the church because it's handled internally in the church and they deal with the perpetuator, the the predator, but then the victim is left because they can't talk about it because you can't draw attention.
They're changed now. They asked for repentance.
>> And so, the victim just suffers and it's just it's disgusting.
>> She's right. Uh I grew up in Utah and this is how the Mormon church handles this. When a straight white man gets accused of this, they call their lawyers. That's the first thing that their clergy do. They call their lawyers to see if they're on on the hook for anything. And they shame the victims. It is a systematic thing. So, the church won't help you at all.
>> Uh, >> it's not going to make you it's not going to make you a better person.
>> Southern Baptists and and and Catholics are are their their churches >> not Catholic.
>> I know. and Catholic churches and Southern Baptists tend to also be caught in many scandals of their priests and preachers uh did kids and then just shifting them to different congregations and or paying off victims instead.
>> The Catholic non-denominational >> The Catholic Church has absolutely done that. They're one of the largest perpetrators. They're the reasons that other churches have to carry SA insurance. Wow. Well, that's also one of the reason >> they're the reason that that law in New York got changed so that victims could get more justice because the Catholic Church got sued by victims after the statute of limitations had been uh gone out. They had to change the law so that the statute of limitations would last longer because the church had so many victims.
>> That's how the Egene Carol came out case came out was because of that change.
I just feel like the Catholic Church always gets hated on the most cuz it's the most original >> because they keep doing [ __ ] Peekaoop.
I don't care how long they've been around. The other churches have been around a long time, too. I don't give a [ __ ] how long they've been around. If they are they have been caught doing this, then why would I deny that and say that they're good for it? They have been doing it. This is known. This is not a debate on that. This is a known thing.
>> It's also known how much people's lives can change by being in the church.
People can >> It doesn't outweigh the good, nor does it change the fact that the church still perpetrates harm today.
>> But you yourself said that that these people cannot be rehabilitated.
>> No, I completely understand that. And I don't think >> all of those priests are still priests.
Not from where I'm from.
>> They shuffle them. They just move them to other congregations. Again, those priests are still priests.
>> As you all said, harm is more. There's various types of harm. And all I'm saying, >> what does that matter? What does that matter?
>> All I'm saying is >> you're watering down the main problem is what you're doing.
>> Yeah. How?
>> Cuz you're trying to deflect from it >> by pivoting by by saying what about >> because I'm not going to say oh all of the church is bad or all of the church if somebody has anger issues going to church can actually really help them.
>> So can counseling. Why the [ __ ] would I turn them to a thing that causes harm?
>> Wow.
>> When there is something that can do just as good that doesn't cause harm.
>> I forgot about the wows. Right.
>> And somebody and there was a couple who went to marriage counseling and the marriage counselor turned the husband against the wife. Should we >> Okay, then that's a bad counselor. They go see a different person just like you should do for any type of medical doctor. But a church who prays over you.
>> That's a false sense of hope or security or fixing and often times it winds up failing in the end anyway.
>> Among Christians, divorce is still up.
And a lot of times when it comes to Christian counseling, they shift the blame onto the woman and how she's not being submissive enough and that she needs to do counseling more. So the wife is doing all of this counseling because she quote unquote is the problem when it's not that emp that's the biggest thing.
>> It just seems like because you all have negative examples of the church. I can't bring my positive.
>> Your positive doesn't the bad. I can give you positives all day. Sure. There are some really awesome Christians out there. I love that. I love to death. But that doesn't make the harm caused by the religion as a whole and the people that that that maintain it doesn't outweigh the bad they've done.
I'm sorry. Graing children. Graing children, raping children while saving a couple marriages does not outweigh one does not outweigh the other. Like that the bad thing outweighs the good thing that you're mentioning there. I'm sorry. It Another thing is, okay, so the way that that churches can regain like maybe a little bit of trust is by taking accountability, right? By sweeping things under the rug or or or playing uh magical cups or whatever with priests and moving them into other churches and hoping that it all just kind of goes away does not fix the issue. It's sweeping it under the rug. So, it's on the churches to fix their problem.
Great. I'm so tired of the bulk of the problem being somewhere and then that bulk of the problem saying, "No, but what about other people?" No. Deal with you. Same logic goes for straight men harming kids, >> right?
>> Deal with you. Stop worrying about what other people doing because other people are not the bulk of the problem.
>> The bulk of the problem isn't in the church either.
>> It is the bulk of the problem.
>> That's your opinion.
>> No, that is straight up fact. There's no difference there.
>> Okay. Where's Where's the facts? Where's the doctor?
>> Again, raping children and covering it up as a whole across multiple denominations, including and most especially Catholicism.
>> And definitely not that last part, but okay.
>> Yes, definitely that last part. Go read a book, Peekaboo. I'm so tired of you coming up here and telling me a thing that I know to be true is not true because you don't know about it.
>> Because you never provide a source.
>> Why should I? You're the one who comes up here saying it doesn't exist when I know it does. All these people on this panel and in this chat that have been on this have all seen this, have known the news. It's been in the [ __ ] news. Why should I have to give it to you when you haven't bothered to find out about it when you found when somebody told you?
You've had ample time when we've had multiple conversations to Google one thing that we've told you and you haven't done the bother to do that. Why should I do the work for you? You are the ignorant one here. I'm not being paid to teach you. I'm not being paid to teach you.
I was going to tell people there was one instance where I have told the person to continue to follow the what they reason they were in religion is it gave them strict guidelines and them following those guidelines is what kept them from >> committing atrocities and that was the only time where I said stay in the religion if that is what is helping you >> like peekaboo. I don't have to. These were things that were in the news that are known. If you can't deal with that and go look it up, just Google right now and you'll see every source. Catholic church caught in molestation issue >> or child in so many.
>> It's not even funny. They've been caught in so many. What I've heard that they do is that they just move them around.
>> Engage for Tik Tok. OSP. Okay. Continue, please.
>> My age is 33.
>> Perfect. All right. Go ahead.
>> Go ahead.
>> Um, so anyway, yeah, they um with that uh they just move them around. They switch them up congregations. They get them out of state. even um the Catholic Church if unless it's been really bad, it has to be really bad that it has to be for them to pull them out because they've not been doing that for years.
Let's see. BBC, Catholic Church, child sex abuse scandal. That is the BBC October 5th, 2021. That is the name of the article for you. Peekab-boo. Uh PBS where I'm at.
>> Yeah. PBS. Dozens of Catholic priests molested hundreds of Rhode Island children. That is from PBS. Uh Catholic Church sexual abuse crisis. That is from Britannica. Uh if you also want there's abuse lawsuit.com, Catholic Church priest abuse. Uh let's see the next page. Uh Pew Research Center views of sexual abuse and misconduct in the Catholic Church. uh on the screen. Ariel has uh I can't see all the title. Ariel, what's the what's the first part?
>> The top just says basically what that first paragraph says. It says the Catholic Church. Hold on.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Even beyond the Catholic Church. March 31st, 2026. Robert Morris, Texas mega church pastors released from jail after after 6 months for child sex abuse.
Oh, I've heard about that one. Um, uh, they said that with that one in particular, he was in protective custody, but it was a PC that was different from he was kept away from others like himself.
>> Raziel saying that there's more like SA in schools does not help.
>> It doesn't negate the fact. It doesn't negate.
>> Yeah. the facts.
>> What's more, as I have on the screen that the Catholic Church doesn't report a lot of the cases, it's not >> No, they silence them, >> right?
>> Our church has four big um friendly >> with All right. Um we're kind of just looking for ops right now, friends. So, I'm going to turn it down.
>> I'm sorry.
>> No, that's appreciate you being here. Uh just cuz we're kind of friendly heavy, I don't we don't need to pile on. Uh so I do want to leave the last bit for people who may not agree or at least want to further the fine. You're a mod. You're good.
>> I'm just saying we don't need any more friendlies. That's all.
>> Don't need more. But this one's got a lot to say in the comments.
>> So essay happens way more in schools than in churches.
>> What does that have to do with anything about the background? How does that change the background? Your whole argument based on >> No, that was just for that one person.
>> Yeah. No, I totally >> No, Raziel, stop. That was that specifically was for that last person we were speaking to because she did not know that the Catholic Church had been caught in essay scandals. So, that is not the topic. The topic is what's on my background.
>> I also wanted to ask if he >> So, I'm a Christian nationalist. I think uh LGBTQIA should be Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> You were saying AK >> I was going to see if including in those schools if that he was include if it was only for public schools if it included private and religious schools as well with those reportings >> up to K12. So not even all of school.
>> Was it was it small segment? It was like 15.
>> Hold on. Was it was it sir sation?
Calm down. Was it a public school, a charter school, a private school, like a religious school?
>> Public.
>> Okay. So, they're not even including religious schools.
>> They're not even including >> all of So, you're so automatically your source is biased, >> right?
>> But also, the number that you put in the comments says 2017. Can you give me like where you're pulling the numbers from?
>> All right.
>> I I don't I like deflecting from the issue that we were discussing.
>> I'm not deflecting. I'm asking you if you can give me >> No, sorry. Now you're >> No, sorry. My phone is lagging. Your box wasn't lighting up. Sorry. I see it.
>> Uh, no. I'm just saying like Raziel coming up and and saying like, "But what about schools? That don't change the fact that every single day I see some sort of church leader being accused of some heinous ass shit."
>> Aaron, >> are you going to give?
>> We already said that. That again, that was specifically for Peekabboo not knowing there was an SA scandal with Catholics. I don't understand why you keep deflecting that. We're not talking about Catholicism. That was for her specifically. I'm not talking to you about Catholicism. I'm talking about the background.
>> Right. We we were using those examples because she didn't understand that churches have to have SAM insurance. So, we were explaining the breakdown of that.
>> That's why we use that specific instance and that specific topic. As a society as a whole, we agree. We were providing sources cuz she didn't understand that.
>> So, we're not talking about that. We're talking about the background. Are you here for that or did you come here to defend your [ __ ] religion?
Okay. Well, I don't care. Bye.
That's not the talk we're having today.
>> What is he like 12? What the [ __ ] was that? He was a white Christian nationalist.
>> Smelled.
>> Imagine.
>> I knew I smelled your >> also. Hey, bro.
>> Maybe Ariel. Sorry.
>> Hi, Ariel.
>> Hi, everybody.
>> Aaron, how are you, darling?
>> And Ariel, I'm sorry I didn't say hi to you when you came up. I'm so sorry, my love. How are you?
>> No. Where is Amar?
>> Cuz I'm I'm here.
And I appreciate you for it. I know.
>> How are you, Aaron?
>> I'm doing well. Causing havoc in these streets.
>> Hey, that's what I'm doing today. These straight men are real mad at me today.
They They don't like this background at all.
>> Nothing wrong with not angry.
>> Yeah. Nothing wrong with a little civil uh disobedience. That's what I always say.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they really >> disobedience is on their name.
>> Uh, by this screen name, I'm going to assume he don't like my background either, but are you ever I don't know. I don't want to get cussed out. Uh, >> no, you're fine. Are you over 18?
>> I I am over 18. I'm 40. I'm over. And what did you want to say?
>> Um, I just I am weary about I don't know if y'all are still talking about the church idea or versus the doctor. For me as a black man, I do not find safety in with doctors per se in the same way that I don't feel safe with church people. So I the the peekaboo thing it just felt like you guys may not be aware of how especially for black people. I don't know maybe you are aware how we think of our experience with doctors and the history. more.
>> There's three of us on panel. Four actually, >> excuse me. Yeah. And I know that black people in general, we are not a monolith, but many of us have uh a distinct distaste for like doctors because of the history in this country.
So, I just feel like we should and I understood your I agree with your points about the church, but I just feel like as we are talking about that and we're recommending, oh, just go to a doctor, we might want to just keep that in mind.
Just >> Are you talking about therapy?
>> Yeah, I'm talking about therapy, too.
Like when we think about psychotherapy and the history and how they've talked about black people in this country, how they define little black boys even now.
Um, sometimes it's hard to trust when you are sending your kids to therapy for me. I'm But also I I'm from the south as well. So that's my experience, >> right? I mean, so am I. I'm I feel like I miss something cuz you're saying doctors, but you said also therapy. Like I feel like I miss >> Well, when I when I heard you guys, oh, why send people to a church? You could send them to I thought I heard someone say send them to a hospital. Send them to a doctor. said you could send them to therapy.
>> Okay.
>> I said it was a viable option. I didn't say you had to.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah, >> I agree. I agree. I It just felt like when how I received it, maybe I misunderstood, >> but I just get where you're coming from.
I'm Listen, I'm from Texas. Like, >> okay. So, you get what you're talking about. Yeah. But I I also do think it's important to that's why we this is like a small step, but that's why we have these conversations and we try to >> get people to >> open up their way of thinking and like do different things because as much as I agree with that, I also know that there's black therapists, there are people that specifically go to school to fill in that gap so that we don't have to feel like that and we are we do have those options available because in the same way the black community doesn't look at church that way as a as a whole.
I know there's you know some of us but as a whole they think church is safer.
We'll just go to church. Those people are not qualified >> Yeah.
>> to be given any type of advice. But not only that, the advice that they are going to give is going to come out of that harmful ass book.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
And they're also the ones who per uh like the the religious ones also the ones that perpetuate the like conversion therapy for gay people which is just literal torture and brainwashing that doesn't work.
>> I've heard two men two and like I know it sounds like a small number but in the context that I'm talking about that's more than enough. I have heard two men say that if their homeboy was whooping on his wife or whooping on his girlfriend or doing things to the kids, anything like that, they would encourage them to go to the church and to pray about it and they would have, you know, like a group meeting and they would and then if he keeps and then like, huh, >> you're telling the truth.
>> I was just having a conversation about this and I call it as a believer.
>> Yeah. Yeah, they >> call it religious psychosis. Just because you are view believe does not absolve you from accountability, correction and or punishment.
And I I I this psychosis of just oh we'll just pray it away. No, it says faith without actions is unalignment.
I'm using Tik Tok friendly language which means you are responsible for all your you have you have quote free will.
The devil can't make you do nothing. You did that. Stop blaming the devil. You made that decision. You're gonna have to deal with that.
>> Be careful.
>> And that is why I'm a big proponent. And listen, I got a big old argument about this. I I'm a big proponent of therapy and not faith-based therapy because I need to I want someone to make sure that they're not just glossing over with platitudes. I need you to do the work.
And depending on the person who you are in faith-based counseling with, they are not going to hold you accountable because somehow they think Jesus died on unal alive on the cross for your sins makes you not accountable for your actions and that is harmful and toxic.
>> Got it.
>> Yeah, that's very dangerous.
>> Thanks for the perspective, guys. I appreciate it.
>> I feel more I appreciate it. Thanks for jumping.
>> I appreciate you. Thanks for being here.
Yeah. W him honestly. W on that.
>> Yeah.
>> For real.
>> All right, guys. Appreciate you. Have a good one.
>> I don't know how to leave this thing.
You know my own.
>> I got you. Don't worry. Don't worry. I got >> that finger.
>> I am. I'm so sorry.
>> Listen. He said, "I don't want to get cussed out." Oh, >> right. That's why I was like, "We went a completely different route."
>> Yeah, that that went really good. I appreci Oh, thanks.
>> Thank you, Queen. Malaka, I can't [ __ ] talk. Yo, these allergies are whooping my ass. Me in this [ __ ] state. Listen, Ariel, I've been pimp down. Pimp down for four [ __ ] days.
>> I know. I used to have They were so bad.
And my grandma, listen, I thought she was part of the damn cartel at one point because the way she whipped out and it wasn't nothing but Claritin D12, but we tried every they were whooping my ass the same. I couldn't talk. I couldn't see. like it was bad. And we tried all the things and finally one time she came back and uh she was like I thought it was funny because she was like I had to you have to go to the actual uh counter and like use your ID and I was like damn what's in this [ __ ] and it works so good. I was like damn >> they got me some of that cuz this is some [ __ ] >> That was the only thing that worked.
They don't bother me so much now. Like I still, you know, my eyes will get itchy sometimes, but that [ __ ] was the only thing that worked.
>> And try I don't know if you have any allergies, but also try to get locally sourced honey like from the stand in the corner >> because that actually can help build your immune system if you have. You probably already know this.
>> Oh yes, thank you.
>> I live.
But yeah, cuz I I had to start I did that when I I can't remember where I moved to and I was Oh, honey, it was bad. And um and so I started doing a regimen of that and it did get better.
But I still um even though it doesn't really work anymore, so I think I need to switch it up. I still I do Claritin or the Elite Cold and Sinus Blue Box behind the counter.
That way that's where they be keeping the [ __ ] A lot of people, >> can I also tell you uh take Pepsid? A lot of people think it's just for uh antacid, but it's actually another form of antihistamine. It's an H2 instead of an H1 where your Algra, your other antihistamines, you know, uh elite like all those ones are H1s. Pepsid is an H2.
And so take that as well and that will help you out.
>> Noted. Thank you. aka Howie. Was it was it Helga? Oga, what's the name of the movie?
>> Helga. Yeah.
>> How's she doing?
>> Oh, I love >> She's good. She >> She had twins. We did lose one of the calves over the winter. Um, sadly, >> but we think she might be pregnant again.
>> Oh, get it, girl.
>> Her her belly is huge. So, but she's doing really good. And her other calf is doing really good. They're really healthy.
>> Oh, so she's fast. That's what We're outside. Don't worry about it.
>> Pulling up the app and seeing you open the door and talking to that moose like it's a dog.
>> That was the first video scared the [ __ ] out of me, too, cuz it poked around the cross. What the [ __ ] is that?
>> She ate my ice my Door Dash ice cream like last month. I was pissed.
>> Right.
>> She ate $40 worth of Cold Stone. Oh my god.
>> Listen, I would be mad as >> How are you going to tell a moose no anyway? Like >> listen, I would have been requesting a refer. Y'all need a better box.
>> We live in the wild. Y'all got to do better than this, >> man. I need a moose proof box. Like, >> for real.
>> Do it like starting my [ __ ] >> Moose proof everything. Why you said you ask for proof using a picture of the ice cream and a picture of the moose?
>> String my [ __ ] up.
>> Send them the video so they can't reach this [ __ ] I'll come get it.
>> You get like a metal canister that you put all your Door Dash deliveries in.
>> All right, Mr. Perfect. Are you over 18?
>> All right. And what you want to say?
We can't hear you.
>> Yeah, I can't hear you. Before he says something awful, I do want to say that that's an adorable picture, but go on.
>> Oh, I see it. That is cute.
He's got a little dog behind him in the car.
>> A All right, Mr. Perfect. I genuinely we can't hear you, friend.
>> I said I never been in a room full of victims.
>> Oh, cool story.
>> All right, cool.
>> Well, that is >> weird. You still aren't.
>> That didn't take long at all, >> right?
>> You still aren't.
>> Someone that's like you.
>> Oh, you guys are all victims. It's horrible.
>> Are we?
>> It's horrible.
>> How How are we victims?
>> Put your teeth in. We can't understand you.
>> No fair. I've never been in a room with a white man that had good phone service and real teeth. Hey y'all.
>> Have we all been victimized by a moose?
>> Right. Thank you.
>> I am a victim. A moose steals my groceries on the regular. I'm a victim of moose theft.
>> Right.
>> I've seen you on another panel with a uh with what's her name? Uh what's her name?
>> The one that the one that starves herself. What's her name?
>> Who are you talking to?
>> The anorexic live host. Who who has been on what panel?
>> Who are you talking about?
>> The anorexic lady that you >> Who has been on this panel?
>> Who are you talking to? You saw who there >> AK. AK.
>> Dang.
>> Oh, me.
>> YOU'RE OH, he's he's trying to say that Ingred. Oh, you mean Ingred? The one who has who has um an autoimmune issue, who has absorption issues in in her body.
So, you're making comments about somebody who has who has medical problems?
>> On purpose.
>> It's a medical problem, you [ __ ] Not [ __ ] anorexia.
>> Oh, yeah. That's why you get fake boobs at the same time.
>> Are you [ __ ] dumb?
>> Hold on.
>> Why are you staring at her chest? This also isn't his picture.
>> In the open. What are you talking about?
>> Why are we talking about another live?
>> Why are you talking about another live or what somebody's done to their body?
That's not your [ __ ] problem. What are you [ __ ] gay guy. Can we discuss the topic?
>> What did you think that was insulting to call me a gay guy when I am gay?
>> No, it's not insulting. You like >> then why why say it at all? Why? Why that you like to eating on him?
>> It doesn't matter to me.
>> Are you letting him know that you're in the community and like you're open?
>> Are you >> No, it doesn't matter that you like [ __ ] on your dick and you eat.
>> Nobody does that. What dirty butts are you?
>> Mr. Perfect. Do you want to know what you and you both have in have in common?
Does both of you do that is in your a-hole?
>> What dirty asses are you [ __ ] that your dick is getting dirty? What dirty ass is you [ __ ] your dick is dirty?
>> No, no, no. What dirty asses are you [ __ ] that your dick gets dirty?
>> Yeah, imagine.
>> He really just came up to just not talk about the topic at all. I mean, it's [ __ ] 4:30 on a goddamn Tuesday and he's drunk as hell in that recliner on TikTok.
>> I'm not going to lie. I know, bro.
>> AK, they're making me get rid of you.
I'm sorry.
>> I know he about 15 shots in right now.
>> Who are you talking? Did you Did you assume I was talking about you even though you just got here and you haven't said anything yet? Is that what just happened?
He's a friendly. He was talking about >> I thought he was talking to me. I thought he said I know you 15 shots.
What the [ __ ] >> No, I'm talking about the other bro. The other the guy that just left.
>> Listen, that's the second time y'all.
Listen, I done took my medicine. I'm on a cool.
>> I'm on anybody.
>> She ready.
>> I'm not going to lie. I don't want no beef. Madam, please.
>> Well, no beef, madam. I'm I'm cool.
Well, we going to just put you back down in the comments and way life where you get yourself in trouble and you get >> hilarious. I know.
>> I appreciate you.
>> This the [ __ ] 30s.
>> I appreciate you being here though. I I do. I do.
>> Think I run a ho house.
>> Listen, madam.
That's why I was like, let me just put you down for you.
>> No one touch smoke at all.
>> Let me put you down in comments before you do get yourself in trouble. Maybe it's because I've been on a panel with Ariel, but like even if Ariel was mad at me, I'm just like, I probably deserve this. Hold on.
>> Listen, it's just I I'm not listening hard enough. I'm doing too many things at one time. And I That medicine got me uh locked in on everybody. I'm bite something. What's up?
>> I like it. I like it.
>> Oh my god.
>> Uncle Sags, who had a terrible childhood. Why do you all make such stupid assumptions about everybody?
>> My childhood was good.
>> You had a terrible childhood. Probably at the hands of a man, which is exactly who we're talking about. That's not my problem.
>> It sounds like projection, >> right?
>> My Yeah, my childhood was good. My parents brought me up great. Uh when they got sick, I did everything I could to to help them. and you know like we have a really good relationship and I've had nothing but you know blessings or whatever you want to call it Christians uh in my life so I don't know what you're talking about.
>> I'm going to need for AI to do better in its context.
>> I don't want to know.
>> It said a heated debate about victimhood and personal experiences.
>> Damn it.
>> Always catchy at the worst time.
I wish I could remember what song it was. I couldn't believe cuz it was literally like Katy Perry or something. And that [ __ ] said a freestyle battle. Wait a minute, [ __ ] No.
>> Did you hear? Did you see what he said?
It worked. Bye. AK.
>> So I used to So I used to when I used to open my panels with I don't name GM Cash. He has the most random songs but they are very relevant. Like why is gas his hits like why is gas so high? Vote you a [ __ ] ass. Amazing amazing songs.
>> So something that would debunk your live.
>> Cool really really wants to talk. Cool.
Are you ever 18?
>> Yes, I'm 32.
>> All right. What are you saying?
if you would like to blow up my screen here.
>> No, I wouldn't. I want you to tell me what you're saying.
>> That straight men uh do not harm kids as often as the LGBQ.
>> The fact that you allow predators in your community like maps.
>> We don't allow them in the community.
They were never allowed.
>> You guys do.
>> No, we do not. Don't speak for my community, [ __ ] We do not. We disavow them at all costs and have since the beginning since they started calling themselves that ridiculous [ __ ] name.
>> Then why do you allow the trans community in >> trans people are not maps and trans people are not harming kids?
>> Uh life we came across >> uh there was one live that we came across.
>> One live where what >> one life we came across >> that be pleasured and that he would totally screw a kid. Yeah. There was one trans.
>> Wait, wait, wait. Who is that in the background?
>> They're my fiance.
>> Yeah, they are children.
>> They are children.
>> US Citizen Commission. Go look it up.
FBI data. Go look it up.
>> That's my fiance.
>> Root interrupting my plug for GMAT Cash for that boom [ __ ] sound a little bit.
>> So, I was playing it and so the AI overview said host is disc is playing her rap uh rap songs and discussing politics using miracle uh musical uh lyrics or something like that. It made me the rapper. I was GMAT Cash and then it was a whole rap battle live. It was ridiculous.
>> That's that's literally what it did to me. It was like a freestyle battle. I was like, "No, it's not. What do y'all think is going on in here?
But somebody the other day um to his point about allowing people in the community and then y'all know what's crazy. Don't nobody tell him cuz he ain't in here. I swear to God if one of y'all mention this to this [ __ ] is up and it's stuck.
I swear to God.
>> All right. But I think I'm the one that got bar banana because but he did say they sent him the clip and he didn't say it was me, but I still think I might have said it all for that [ __ ] But the lie that was in there was saying um we were talking about how >> when we say it's all men because even the men who don't do the harm don't stand up for us against the men who and so um this dude came up and was talking about I've got people like that in my family and I'm like yeah uh get rid of them if you know what I'm saying. But I was I was so mad that I kept saying the word. I was like, "Kl, get them out of here." I was like, "Cuz you're part of the [ __ ] problem." But just like he just tried to do talking about y'all let them in the community, not you holding a mirror up. Because the amount of men that have uncles and brothers and stepdads and cousins that be whooping on women and hurting children and doing all kind of [ __ ] and y'all don't say nothing cuz that's your bro, that's your family, >> right?
>> Family six, all that stupid [ __ ] Worry about yourself and the community that you're in. Cuz y'all always worried about somebody else.
>> But y'all ain't focused on who you're around and what you can actually do something about. Chris, listen.
>> And that's what good friends do. Don't say [ __ ] right?
>> Don't say nothing.
>> Right. I just >> And that's literally the whole point.
It's actually literally to what Ariel always says, like how she wants to raise a whole another a different generation of boys. That's what I'm literally trying to get at with this. That's that's literally changing the conversation of how men are taught to be men in this this world.
>> Yeah.
>> I feel like this is appropriate also.
So, what Mr. per uh Perfectly Toothless was referencing was a live that I was in where the title is nice guys are dangerous and there was a panel >> in I didn't know who I could scrolling but >> yeah she's she's great great great group of people so Ingred is the host and there was a panel of me and seven other women talking about our experiences of essay and so that's what he came up to say is bunch of victims because a whole bunch of women were talking about their experiences.
>> I think he's the same one when y'all were initially talking about it. He put in the comments, "Well, that's the also the the women that um that falsely accused man. Yuck. Where's my frying pan? Knock them the [ __ ] out. I'm so tired." Like, >> and two of us shared, it was two of us.
I It was me and another woman were sharing about, well, how can we report when we're children? And I you know one she was very we were very very young and so then it even went even further like so that even makes it worse for him. So >> and that's part of what I'm talking about. Men are not taught empathy at all and therefore it all just goes away.
Like empathy is just like a muscle. If you don't use it you it it weakens over time. You you lose it basically.
>> Do you know the um the topic that Tommy Jay runs? Which one >> about the um the masculine masculinity thing like he he he'll ask the guest three questions?
>> I've not heard that one. I've only seen one of his lives and I came in well after he had ever said that.
>> I think Friday was the last one that he did. And the the first question is like what is what is masculinity? Like what makes you masculine? They name all the traits. Then the second question is what makes you feminine? They name all the traits I masculine of course, protector, provider, blah blah blah blah blah, all the things that women can do, too. But then when they get to the women, it was uh nurturing and they're they're soft and they're nice and they're empathetic.
And so anyways, it led into a whole like so >> the men who don't give a [ __ ] about nothing or nobody and are hungry for money and power, they don't sound like they're the ones that should be in a position to control the the [ __ ] fate of billions of people around the world, but we keep putting ourselves in positions of power. And anyways, he was just like, cuz the whole point is supposed to be you should just get rid of that, >> right? like get rid of that masculine title because everything that you list is something that women do all the time, especially if they're single mothers or if they're, you know, just single women out living by themselves or whatever.
>> But then when you name the feminine traits, it's things that men wouldn't dare say about. Men don't call themselves nurturing.
>> Men don't call themselves soft and empathetic.
>> Men don't do that. But those are the qualities.
>> They use that as insults. Actually, >> that's crazy. They use all those as insults toward other men.
>> Oh, [ __ ] You're soft. You soft as [ __ ] Like, >> shut the [ __ ] up.
>> And that's literally the whole And I I love that he does that. Then I I that that's that's very valid.
>> Oh, listen. That's not even the kicker.
The third question, he goes, "What type of man are you attracted to?" And they listen, they lose their [ __ ] What? Who you talking to me? I'm not romantically attracted to men. Sir, who said romantically, right?
>> Who are you talking about? And one of them was like, were you talking to her?
And I was like, >> he ain't talking to me, he's talking to you, >> right? Just every other Yeah, exactly. Dreadful was up there the very first time that I heard him run the the topic. And I was like, not Dreadful being a huge green flag because when he asked Dreadful, listen, he just answered it. He was like, "I like men, you know, that are that are whatever follow the law or whatever the [ __ ] he said."
>> Friendships take some level of an attraction, too, because you have to like this. There be something there.
>> Exactly.
>> And the craziest [ __ ] part was they couldn't answer it because they were stuck on, "I'm not attracted to men."
And he was like, "Okay, so what type of men don't you like?" And they listed all the cuz they were [ __ ] Christians. I don't like men who don't keep the commandments. And I don't like men who are liars. I don't like men. He was like, "Okay, so men that you like, tell the truth." And they they follow the command, blah blah blah. Like, y'all just automatically assume. And he also made a good point. Um cuz I didn't catch this, but he was like, "The way um that you automatically thought I meant romantically when we were talking about men is the same thing that y'all do to women." Because you'll see a woman and you you're not holding the capacity to be her friend or maybe, you know, whatever. Like you're immediately thinking sex, relationship, attraction.
And he was like, "And then, you know, if that doesn't work out, then maybe you'll be her friend or then you can see something else." But y'all's initial >> reaction is always like a a romantic relationship. Y'all have to stop looking at people like that. That's weird. Um, still that. Hey, thank you so much for tagging me every time you see me in a live because the way that I have been blocking you non [ __ ] stop and in a minute you're going to run out of places to go. So, I appreciate that. Let me go and get you up out of here, too.
>> Benny, I don't think you upset him. He's just I think I think he was just joking with you when he said that. Anyway, I wouldn't worry about it.
>> Okay. I was like, what?
>> Did someone drop me? I'll come back on my main.
>> All right, love. Uh yeah, he he pops in and out. He don't don't worry.
>> I I I mean I do kind of want to debate him on on theological ground sometime.
>> Uh so does Rabbi Hana because I told her that I for like cuz he had mentioned like some of the stuff that he believes and I was talking to her and it was something that we had talked about before and I was like by the way I met somebody and he's really cool. Um, and she was like, "I want to talk to him." And I'm like, "Oh boy."
Okay.
Okay.
I don't want to out what he is or what he said, so I'll just let that go. But like, yeah. But I didn't tell her, so she's like, "I want to talk to him, too."
>> Yeah. Overall, I mean, I like him. So, >> yeah. Chris is awesome. He's a good guy.
>> I will say this. I got beef. I got beef.
I got tremendous beef.
>> Why?
>> Well, you know where to find me, huh?
uh with uh KC as a matter of fact.
>> Uhoh.
>> So uh next time you see her or she pops in or if any of her little goonies are in here, tell her I got beef for her and to keep Jiren's name out of her [ __ ] mouth. I don't give a [ __ ] if you I don't give a [ __ ] if you don't agree with what Christ before Jesus has said.
But the fact that you're going into other people's live streams, stirring up [ __ ] tagging and commenting about my [ __ ] best friend. Yeah, I got beef with you, [ __ ] I do.
>> I got left turns. Petty be trying to She'd be like, "Girl, don't go over there. That's Main Street." No, sometimes you got to go to Main Street cuz I be missing [ __ ] >> right?
>> I don't even know what happened either.
Who?
>> Who?
>> KC. Uh the the woman that be co-hosting with Apostate Ape. That's another reason why I don't [ __ ] go in there. And then you're muting people.
>> Girl, like not in a bad way, but like very like you talking about godless engineers wife.
>> Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. She has a black and white profile photo. Yeah.
I was in I was in a live the other day where a lady named Lady Huggy came in to Godless Engineers live and said that she was Jiren's like number one mod and started telling him that um people are talking about him and that everyone knows what he's saying and that it won't be tolerated against Jiren. And I I was like what is happening?
>> Well [ __ ] they're >> I've seen the screenshots. I've seen the screenshots to a live stream and started [ __ ] Their conference is their conference is the Rocket City Reason Conference. That's the one I'm I'm going to that I'm mentioning.
>> Wait, is this the girl? Have you been Have you been on her panel before to go?
>> I've been on Apostates panel with her.
Yeah.
>> Okay. I don't think we're talking about the same cuz I know who she is, but I don't know.
>> You're thinking Pinches Casey?
>> No, no, no, no, no. Not her. Um, I don't know if the girl I'm picturing, I don't know if her name is Casey, but she's got like a very skinny nose. She's beautiful, but she's got like a very defined face and she's got long hair and she talks about more kind of political stuff. But I saw her over here the very first time that I saw her and now she comes up on my timeline sometimes.
>> But I don't know if it's the same person y'all are talking about.
>> I honestly don't know. I all I All I will say though is keep Jiren's name out your [ __ ] mouth. Stop [ __ ] talking [ __ ] on him because you don't agree and we'll be good. But keep Jiren's name out your [ __ ] mouth, [ __ ] I don't play about mine.
>> Period. Oh, okay. Aaron said it's not the same person cuz I don't know what the [ __ ] her name is, but I saw her over here one day and uh she's got a pretty good following, but she talks about more political stuff.
trying to figure that.
>> She's really pretty, but she's I don't know how to explain cuz I have like a super small nose, but hers is very like >> she has like a button button nose >> kind not really. It's just very It's like skinny and she's got a very defined like jaw and she's got long hair and she's always up close in the camera. Um I literally saw her this morning but I don't know what the [ __ ] her name is.
Okay.
>> I mean, she popped in here to say hey to Dod. So, I wonder if she'll pop in here again.
>> Well, no, cuz God bless is live right now, so she's probably over there with him.
>> Okay. Go over there and look. Who the [ __ ] >> nosy [ __ ] that, you know, be watching your live stream, they can go ahead and say what I >> So, do somebody said they got beef with Godless, too. Damn.
>> Mhm.
>> Because I just I just found him recently.
Yes. And here's why. Why are you platforming someone who has allegedly cuz I have to say that part uh seven SA accusations against him?
>> The Whoa. Okay, that's all I need.
>> Uh Richard Carrier, he has him co-hosting sometimes on his live stream.
So, you're basically telling us you don't believe women.
>> Interesting.
>> Who's who he who does he co-host for?
Godless engineer usually brings up >> um Richard Carrier. Richard Carrier allegedly has seven SA cases against him >> by seven different women.
>> Well, [ __ ] I wish I had known a lot of this [ __ ] ahead of time, but I'm signed up to be a special guest at their damn >> [ __ ] thing in their own house.
>> It just took me 10 seconds.
>> Well, so is thinker and a bunch of other people though, too. So, it's like we'll [ __ ] you go in there and you wreck that [ __ ] and you call them out and there'll be drama. There'll be clips and the next thing you know >> we do and his wife mutes them.
>> His wife thing.
>> Mhm.
>> That's crazy.
>> But it just took me 10 [ __ ] seconds.
I typed in his name and then the first tab was like what are the allegations and it say they done banned this [ __ ] from atheist uh con whatever the [ __ ] they call them like atheist conventions and all kind of [ __ ] and he done been banned.
>> What the hell? I'm sorry. I I maybe I'm I apologize for my ignorance. Who is Richard Carrier? I am so sorry.
>> Richard Carrier is uh one of the uh main mythists that doesn't believe that um Jesus existed. But he calls he basically calls Jiren a grifter even though he's selling his book for only three [ __ ] bucks.
>> But saying that, you know, but Jiren actually took the time. He uses science for this. He doesn't agree with him. and Godless engineer platforms him and people when they're in chat, they try to call him out on having this man that has these allegations against him being on his panel. Um, his wife mutes chat, mutes the comments that are saying it or even tagging and putting in the source of where to find Does it say that he denied the allegation, sued for defamation, and then turned around and apologized for misreading situ? So, you did do it. You just turned around and tried to act like I thought they were flirting with me. I thought they were into it.
>> Well, unfortunately, I am going to have to finish this conference cuz it's already paid for. So, I'm going to have to go. But I won't I don't know what to do about that. [ __ ] That's nonrefundable.
I don't I don't [ __ ] with people that don't believe women.
>> Go [ __ ] yourself.
>> Can you get out for a medical hurting you?
>> No, I literally I didn't pay for the hotel, but I've already paid for my passes for the event and everything.
>> So, what you do is you wear a shirt that says believe all women and then still go about your business and have your conversations.
>> You know what? That's exactly right.
>> I would do cuz I was going to go cuz there's other people there and it's a great opportunity, but I I would have something to [ __ ] say.
>> Yeah, cuz I mean even like I mean Thinker's there. Justin's going to be there. Like literally every content creator bar is going to be there. Like >> Yeah.
>> Trust me, if it was safe for me to travel right now, >> best believe I would be on that podium calling every single one of those [ __ ] >> I'm going to make that [ __ ] wear a shirt, too. Believe all the women.
Yeah, I'm going to make him wear it, too. Go ahead.
>> There are coke trucks all over the road.
You're not safe to go anywhere.
>> Huh?
>> What? I said there's coke trucks all over the road. You're not safe.
>> That's [ __ ] up.
>> That's [ __ ] up. That must have >> um Yeah, dude. You should go to the conference. Like, stay out of it. Like, yeah, wear a believe all women, but I I wouldn't get involved until they drag you in. They have a habit of dragging people in, but there's great creators, like you said, like bars going.
>> Yeah. I don't want to miss the opportunity for that either.
>> Yeah. Don't don't miss that for this.
Just don't get drugged into it. And >> don't buy their BS. I love >> Listen, when is the conference? Cuz now I wasn't going to go >> October. October.
>> I'm going to wear the shirt, too. I'm going to have a whole bunch of [ __ ] in there with the [ __ ] shirt on. We should we should October is when it is.
>> The big things with GE and Casey is their platforming of carrier and their absolute attack on anytime somebody brings up the women. They they just go on and on about how the women aren't credible and their accusations aren't credible. Even though there's a website that lays it out, it's not good.
>> The website >> I just want them to keep Jiren's name out their [ __ ] mouth because they already have issues with me. They showed up. G showed up month or so ago in Amodus Almighty's live and just >> went crazy about Jiren and attacking him and going nuts out of nowhere. And that's what set off Lady Huggy to show up in his live and basically say like ceasefire. Just stop.
>> Stop attacking.
>> That's all right. But they're not >> Let's just I don't >> They're not ceasefiring though.
>> They're not ceasefiring. And because she is in here, Casey, I need you to request.
>> Yeah, I >> cuz I don't talk [ __ ] behind people's backs. I also say it in their faces. Can you request?
>> All I want to say is Jared, I love you, baby.
>> We love Daddy.
>> I have no idea what's going on, but I've been getting all the tea and the drama this week. That's why I've been causing havoc in these streets, cuz honey, wait, listen to the drama I done heard, but I want to finish hearing this. Listen, see, I don't like drama, but the moment you bring up my best friend is the moment we have issues. Especially attacking people who are in his vicinity, going into other live streams, discrediting him, and then have the audacity to jump into his, be all Kiki Kaka with a [ __ ] chat. I don't [ __ ] think I don't play fake [ __ ] I don't I don't like fake [ __ ] I don't like clout chasers. I don't like [ __ ] who don't stand tentoes down on what the [ __ ] they believe in and what they [ __ ] preach about. I don't got time for it. I don't got time for the [ __ ] pretends. I don't got time for the [ __ ] people that that like to perform that they're helping minorities or anything. No, >> I don't do that.
So, KC, I'm talking to you specifically.
Hop up. We need to have a little chat.
>> I don't think she's still in here. I think she came in before >> Andre when I texted you was it like last week asking I don't remember if you knew who Lady Huggy was that was that was why it was because >> of I had I had just found that uh Godless Engineers Live and then that happened. So I was like what the [ __ ] is happening? So that's that's why I had texted if now that it comes out and I'm glad that I would just kind of sat back and waited for it to all come out.
Listen, I'm I'mma tell you I'm going tell you guys something right now.
>> I'm going be completely transparent with you.
>> I was not a part of this community. I could give a rat's ass less if I get kicked out of it to be honest with you.
Because one thing I am not as a fake [ __ ] [ __ ] Okay, I could be a [ __ ] Absolutely. Especially to the people who deserve it. But at the same time, I'm not going to kiss ass. I'm not going to dick right for what? for [ __ ] that aren't going to be around my bed when my time comes and I [ __ ] pass away.
>> No, I can't breathe.
>> I know you. I didn't know you [ __ ] And I'm not going to know you [ __ ] when I'm gone.
>> So, I live in my truth. I say what I mean. I mean what I say. And maybe that's why a lot of people don't like me in this community. And you know what?
That's fine. You want to know why?
Because it takes away the weak and the fake from me in my vicinity.
I call out friends just as much as I call out foes.
I don't sugarcoat and I don't pick sides. I see everything. I am constantly in the [ __ ] shadows watching when you think I am not.
I peep every [ __ ] thing. I don't give a [ __ ] if you don't agree with someone.
That's fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. We all might have the same [ __ ] but different [ __ ] comes out of it. Okay. But with that being said, what we're not going to do is diminish someone's profession that they took their time and energy for to show truth and to wake up people for the lies that they have been living for so long because you didn't [ __ ] think of it first. Because you didn't take the time to do the [ __ ] work. So now you're dick writing on other creators for brownie points. [ __ ] that. Do the [ __ ] work. A lot of us have degrees.
A lot of us did put the time, the money, and the [ __ ] effort.
How dare you?
If you cannot do the work yourself, then don't speak on what you do not know or understand. That's why I get tired of [ __ ] thinking that they know about Greek and Egyptian history when they don't. They know what's taught to them in their history channels, but they haven't actually looked at the book.
They haven't talked to the people who actually done the studies. They haven't went there themselves to understand.
This [ __ ] takes time and a lot of [ __ ] money that a lot of us don't have, especially now with the [ __ ] that's going on.
Miss me with that [ __ ] If you have issues with someone, you take it up with them. Don't go into other atheist live streams and [ __ ] talk the people or [ __ ] talk the person knowing that they're not in the [ __ ] room.
You want to talk [ __ ] you better [ __ ] face the person who you're talking about. If not, then be the good skills and keep it to yourself.
I said what I had to say.
>> Well, that may sound even more awkward.
>> I love you, Auntie, and I appreciate you.
>> I love you, too.
But you'll be >> Do you want to hear a joke?
>> Who the hell lives on Pink Deal Mill Road?
>> Pink Mill. What does that >> deal meal? What the hell? No, thank you.
>> No, thank you.
>> That's a abort situation right there.
>> Don't go there. It's going to be like the house at the end of the road on the left. It's literally empty on the maps, too. Like, I know somebody [ __ ] bought this plot of land and named this goddamn road Pink De. No. Nope.
>> Also, who's joining me for the Pink Beard concert in uh July here in Cincinnati?
>> What? What concert?
>> I'll be there in spirit.
>> Cincinnati is performing. He is a >> Oh, the black man.
>> Yes, >> I got him on Tik Tok.
>> I'm glad you got him on TikTok.
>> Listen, I am wellrounded in these streets.
>> Listen, she really is. I'll be like, >> she is I love you so much.
>> She uh he is performing soon in my city and he's a Grammy winner uh for writing other people's songs. Uh >> I know. So he is performing his own country music now when before he was writing like pop songs and stuff. Uh one of his songs was that song by Alysia Cara the um the two of >> them you're beautiful and the the party >> the party song.
>> Listen I love country music. I'm actually going to Luke Holmes concert on Saturday. I'm excited. Actually he's actually my client. So actually they actually put me up in the suite. Don't tell nobody. But I didn't know. Sorry.
Go ahead.
>> I didn't know that he was going to Cincinnati, too. Cuz I I keep hearing everybody talk about the one in Atlanta.
>> Mhm. He's going on an official tour.
That's why he's coming up to Cincinnati.
And >> is he planning on going any lower than Atlanta?
>> That I don't know. I haven't seen >> If anyone knows knows him personally, if he were to sign up and come to the Alaska State Fair, he would sell the whole thing out so fast. He would have such a good time.
>> I would have my Spotify to listen.
>> Is anybody going on the cruise?
>> No, darling. I didn't >> What cruise?
>> Listen, I will be in full attendance.
Okay.
>> What cruise is that?
>> Um, it's uh they're doing it. I think Mama Bash is the one that um >> organized it. I think >> like planned it. Yeah. But it's it's Thinker and Mama Bash. I don't know if Bash is going or not. Um, but there's just >> I think he's going to be on tour for it.
I don't know if he's going to be I'm not sure. Don't >> it's not until May next year, but they just had us like they just closed off the um the reservations and stuff for it. But me and >> people are actually getting together.
>> Yeah.
>> And like not just doing hinder [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] >> So I was just going to let him go. Are you done? You want to get back your system?
>> Do you feel better now? Like, >> did you get a boner from that?
>> Most of them usually do.
>> Damn, I threw out my voice more on that tangent. I don't give a [ __ ] Worth it.
German is always worth it to me.
>> Not going to lie, I'm loving the raspy voice though.
>> Yeah.
>> I was telling myself, I was like, I sound like Roshan from Assassin's Creed Mirage. She has the deep voice as me.
>> Yes.
>> I cheated myself.
>> Indigo, you're going on the cruise.
That's >> Oh, you bar Misa. Okay.
>> I told you.
>> Is it really called? The Jonah tossing cruise.
>> The what?
>> Somebody goes the Jonah tossing cruise.
>> Who is Mandisa? And what cruise is bar going on? Or are you talking about a different bar? Cuz how many cruises are happening right now?
>> I think it's the same cruise.
>> I don't know.
>> Oh, cuz he's speaking on it. So, yeah, he's going Yeah. Okay.
>> Wait, no. I'm so confused.
>> Bar and Mandisa will be there. Bar is speaking.
>> Yeah. December, not November.
>> Are you talking about No, cuz you said cruise. I'm so confused.
>> Confusion. But it's okay. I'm so confused.
>> My dumb ass. I'm like Mandesa. Only Mandesa I know is the Christian.
>> Me too. I'm like wait a minute.
I'm like what kind of cruise you >> No, I was saying I was saying there's a cruise. Mandisa is like really well known in the atheist community. But she usually does a cruise like every year around I think November or December. But this year, Bar is going to be speaking um on the cruise this year. The one that she's doing for this year.
>> Oh. Oh, okay. Okay.
>> I don't know who she is, but he about to have a bone to pee with me cuz [ __ ] imagine >> not telling your story.
>> Y'all didn't hear it from me. Y'all didn't hear it from me.
>> She said, "Don't be getting me in there." Now, she said, "Look, >> that's even better. You don't never tell people your sources." I'm going just say so was you planning on telling anybody you was going to cruise >> Hanji I'm I done got his head knocked between the wash to get [ __ ] up. What the [ __ ] >> I'm Look, I'm a casual bystander. Oh, y'all going on a cruise. The bar's going to be Wait, what?
>> You had me in the streets, [ __ ] Just like a [ __ ] too. just literally literally [ __ ] >> Hey, Ariel's one of them woman. So, I find it funny how to listen cuz I did.
>> Listen, imagine my surprise today when I heard >> that you >> I hope to be there for that. I really do.
>> I want to be a flower in the wild for this.
>> I'm I'm so petty.
>> I'mma just show up to the beach. I'mma go find out who Mandisa is and I'mma get a ticket and I'mma just be there and surprise you.
>> And I'm surprised you don't Yuriel, I'm surprised you don't know who that is cuz she's like really really well known.
>> Yeah, she does the cruise every year and the only reason why I'm going this year was because Bar is going to be speaking on that cruise. That's the only reason why I was going.
>> Yeah, >> that's valid.
>> Maybe I've seen her, but it doesn't I don't know. It doesn't sound familiar. I don't know.
>> See, there you go. bringing up [ __ ] that we ain't supposed to be talking about.
>> All right, we have somebody in the class. He's He's uh Let's just say that my hopes are um yeah, >> diminished. We got it. They're in their thirst.
>> I'll drop down, dude.
>> All right, Indie. I appreciate you.
>> Thank you, Indie.
>> I'm going be contacting you, girl. I need you.
All right, >> Simon, are you over 18?
Yeah, I'm 31.
>> All right. And what did you want to say?
Um, >> yeah, just out of curiosity, what does the A stand for in LGBTQI?
>> Asexual.
>> Asexual. It's not autistic. No.
>> No. That's >> That's not a sexuality.
>> It's a disability though, isn't it?
>> No. Being gay is not a disability.
>> I thought it was.
>> No. I mean, obviously if you're attracted to someone's genitalia, I think you are a bit >> clearly somebody a smoothrain straight guy is though.
>> You kick him way too early. Derek.
>> All right, look. All right, I'll invite him back up if y'all want.
>> I want to I want to I just want to ask him a few things. I just want to ask him a few things.
>> If y'all want to talk to >> dude, they want to play with their food.
Feed the fishes. Cuz the last time someone like that came up when I was up here, I was newly mentioned a bluehaired leftist feminist lesbian.
>> Yeah, >> I didn't know that about myself.
>> True story.
>> I was there for that.
>> Chaos says PFP is exactly why I said I don't have high hopes, >> right?
Which by the way, that PFP, it's only attracting uh one certain type of men.
Uh that's all I'm going to say.
>> My disability was about to kick in.
>> One you Oh my goodness.
>> Who is right?
>> All right, y'all. These these uh likes need to keep going cuz the uh guest requests have slowed down. So, we ain't on the FYP no more. So, let's get in there.
Tap tap tap.
Yeah. Um, so I learned all kinds of new things today. I had no idea there was so much drama.
>> See, this the type of [ __ ] I've been doing.
>> I was about to say you take the drama the animal.
>> I try not to be. I really do. But people they they they push my hands.
>> Then I have to say something. Let me tell y'all something. You got to be careful >> with this [ __ ] medicine, okay?
Because I'm >> Oh, >> it's already It's already cloudy outside. It's dark as hell already. I done I'm sitting here talking to y'all and done put some goddamn sunglasses on in the house staring at the computer getting a headache and I'm like, "Girl, not be getting a headache in the middle of the day." Well, you dumb [ __ ] You take them goddamn sunglasses off in the house cuz I just be do. It's like a bunch of energy that I don't know what I'm just doing. [ __ ] Y'all make >> Don't forget to hydrate, girl. Hydrate.
>> Cooking as hell. Listen. And this how unhealthy and sick. Y'all need to hydrate, but not me taking the the the attie and drinking a Red Bull. Girl, put this [ __ ] up. Put it up. Get some water, please.
>> Oh, okay. I know what you're talking about.
>> I would give anything for a Red Bull right now.
>> Get some water. Listen, would you believe me if I said this was the second one today that I would >> If you have ADHD like I do, then caffeine drinks don't do [ __ ] >> It don't do a [ __ ] go to sleep.
>> Look, I could take an adapex, which is a high a highowered [ __ ] upper that is prescribed. Take drink a whole ass Red Bull and a Mountain Dew and go turn around, take a nap.
>> I'm the same way. But you know what?
Wait, I have y'all as y'all know I may have a touch of ADHD. Just a smidge bit.
>> I know y'all can't tell.
>> Just a whole bunch of >> so underdiagnosed.
>> Girl, whatever the opposite of a smidge is, that's what I >> Look, y'all know when it was when I got serious >> when I got tested, the the doctor said that they had never seen someone lose focus so fast.
>> I had nine out of the 13 markers and she noticed it within like 10 minutes of me started the test.
Mine wouldn't even let me see my results. He just said you have it.
>> I didn't see my knee. That's what the doctor said. She was like, "Listen, well, I'm going to go ahead and get you started on I was like, "Oh, we're not going to we're not going to talk about it. We're not >> We're not going to talk." No, he said, "You you got it." I was like, "Okay."
>> And then my prescription is usually digital, but the place that I usually go didn't have it the past couple times.
So, she gave me like a paper prescription and it that's when it really sank in cuz I read it and it was like ADD inattentive type this type that type. I said, "Oh, [ __ ] we really got this shit." Like, okay, they done really diagnosed us with this [ __ ] All right.
Well, >> I haven't been on medicine, but I was thinking about trying to get on some.
Does it really really honestly help?
>> Yes.
>> Hell yeah.
>> The right the right prescription does.
>> Yeah, I've messed around.
>> You have to play with it to see which one works for you. I got to quit learning. I got to learn not to elevate while when I do do it. So that because it just undoes the whole >> I'm wearing off. So I'm just saying yeah that's why >> just said do and I I can't get over that.
>> Right.
>> AD wrote everything. Talk about a >> drink.
>> The energy drink that you need that you actually if you want to feel something when you have ADHD as bad as we do.
Ghost.
That thing had me tweaking. I Yeah, cuz I drink Alani's like just because I like the taste. It's only five calories. I I just like Alani. Don't ever have an effect on me. But that ghost I bought two buy one get one free. I've had the other one in my refrigerator for like a month and a half because I'm terrified to drink it because of how I left it. I had a hangover for like a day and a half. It was >> I'm not trying to be like [ __ ] up. No, that happened to me with um >> don't drink that [ __ ] >> That happened to be with Monster because I don't drink anything but Red Bull and they don't work. They really like it's literally like cigarettes now. The [ __ ] is just they just taste good.
It's just a habit. They don't do [ __ ] But >> the white peach and the strawberry avocado.
>> That's the one I'm drinking right now.
[ __ ] white peach.
>> But I I had a monster one day. I moved into my house and these little um neighborhood girls, they were so cute.
But they brought me like a little basket and you could tell it was like a bunch of [ __ ] they took from their parents and I was like, "What is this?" It was like five monsters and they were sugar-free.
Mind you, they're like 12. I was like, "Did y'all just go around the house, grab a chute >> and brought me a little basket, but I drank one of them bitches." I said, "Oh, okay." That and it was zero sugar, so I was like, "Oh, shit." And then I had a um a Celsius one time, but even those I think it has a lot to do with building up tolerance too because when I try a new one, it'll whoop my like my heart be beating out of my [ __ ] chest. But the Red Bulls don't do that. And I've heard other people like they'll be like, "Girl, I can't drink those. My heart be racing. I feel like I'm going to have a heart attack." I'm like, "Girl, what?
I'm going to take a nap." Like, you're tripping.
>> You're right.
>> But lemon lime flavored iced cough icy.
I know has a Sprite flavored. Oh, Indie was saying that McDonald's has a Sprite lemon lime a lemon flavored iced >> tea. I don't know why I heard coffee and I was like lemon lime.
>> That's what I thought at first, too, when I was reading. I was like, lemon lime coffee? What?
>> Now, is it just me or do like all ADHDers have this? Like mine, if I fall asleep to like take a nap, it's like maybe 15 20 minutes at most.
>> Yes. Same.
>> While everybody else is like like hours.
No, it is.
>> I call them a power nap. I call them power naps.
>> That's exactly what it is. If I if I absolutely need a nap now or I feel like I need to sit down and close my eyes, I'll set my alarm for like 15 minutes so that I I wake up because that's when it really helps. If I fall asleep for hours and I wake up, >> it's like I somebody just [ __ ] rocked me outside my [ __ ] Like I can't I feel like I'm recovering from a hangover, >> right?
>> Most of the time I wake up on my own though within like 15 20 minutes. Like I'm just like >> that's that's why I had to play around with the medicine because I I couldn't sleep and I [ __ ] up the other day and I took my medicine too late in the day and I could not sleep and I would wake up every 15 minutes 15 minutes 15 minutes and I was like [ __ ] it is 3:45 in the morning and I knew I was I knew I was done when I got up out of the bed. I was like oh we're not we're not even going back to sleep. I was in there doing I was doing all kind of [ __ ] >> like I can't do it asleep either.
missing socks and she grow I have to medicate if I'm going to do eight hours of sleep.
>> I can't do a full eight hours. I just I can't I I I wake up at like 2 or 3 in the morning every night and I'm up for at least half hour before I fall back asleep again >> at least.
>> And I'm more of a night owl myself to be honest. I'd rather stay up >> Yeah. I would rather stay up really late and do because I get so much more done in the evening.
>> Me too.
>> I do drink.
>> Me too. I love me. I just hate I just don't like going to I don't like going to sleep. I hate sleeping to be quite honest. I hate it. I don't like it. I don't I wish I didn't have to do it.
>> I don't like it either. I have terrible nightmares.
>> I go to That's not even that for me. I just I don't like losing whole chunks of my life.
>> You know what I mean? Like I just I don't like that. Um but I go to bed at like 11 or 12 and I'm up at 5 every morning cuz I get to work at 6.
>> Like that's what really helped me. I had my supervisor change because y'all know I work at home. So I changed my schedule to where I don't have to clock in until 4. Um, and sometimes like today I clocked in at 2:00 cuz I wasn't doing [ __ ] and I wanted some overtime. But I don't have to be on until 4. So I'll be staying up till midnight doing my shift and then I'll be up till 2:00 just doing other [ __ ] 3:00 come around. I'm like, "All right, we might as well at least try to lay down." And then I turn around and wake up 9 10:00. And this is, mind you, when the kids not here, cuz >> it'd be 6:00 a.m. we got to get out the door. But I don't know. I just I'm starting to feel that same way. Like I I used to think that's what made me go get tested because I was like, there's no [ __ ] like I wasn't doing nothing but sleep, but it was getting on my nerves.
I was like, I don't want to go to sleep again, but I >> couldn't [ __ ] function. I was [ __ ] up.
>> I was like that as a teenager.
>> I don't feel that way. I assumed it was just because I was growing so much. Like I have stretch marks here, not from weight, but because the bones, my collar bones literally like shot out. My skin, I guess, just couldn't keep up. Um, but like as a teenager, I assume that's what it was, but now I'm not so sure cuz I I mean, I slept a lot all the time. I was always groggy.
>> Always. It started to get bad when uh like the sleep was one thing, but it that combined with like okay [ __ ] I got three kids and like the way I was missing deadlines like I was [ __ ] up at school. I was and it was pissing me off cuz I was like I don't know what's wrong with me. Like literally it was depressing the [ __ ] out of me cuz I was like I know I'm not lazy. Like I know I'm not what girl just do it. And I was telling somebody else this, like I would sweep the house and leave the pile there because just something in my brain would not let me click over into do the next thing because it was like, "Okay, we swept the floor. I love that. Let's go take a nap." Like, "Bitch, pick the pile up. What the [ __ ] are you doing?"
>> And my pro my exe my executive override my executive function override is just it's so [ __ ] it's terrible for me.
I'll procrastinate like a [ __ ] >> because if once there's one too many things to do, >> I don't want to do any of it.
>> But I do want to do it all. But I don't like the mental list is too when you start doing it like my problem is when I start doing it, it leads me like I will start cleaning the kitchen which leads me into the laundry room which leads me into my bedroom which leads me into the living room which leads me outside and I'm like why am I outside? I was doing dishes.
>> That's all.
>> I do that all the time. I started like I and I do that especially when I'm at work because I I pay attention to the detail so I notice everything.
>> I like I'm working on a huge project. So I started with like 24 like mini cases.
I'm leaving today with 36 because I find other things. I'm like, "Oh crap, let me fix that. Let me do this."
>> And so it is forever the list. But I rarely make mistakes cuz like you can call me. I can be sitting on the beach somewhere. You can call me. I can do.
It's right here. Right here. Right here.
Tell them everything. I'll remember everything. But it's a blessing and a curse.
>> It sucks.
>> Because once I start doing it, I start doing it. Yeah. And I'll devote all the all as long as it takes, but at some point it's ridiculous. Like I try to clean up for the people coming over that I had over on Saturday for my birthday.
And I I never finished cleaning. And I just got the stuff they could see because if at some point f the things I kept finding that still needed cleaned was taking away from the fact that I needed to get ready for this party. So I was just like this is going to So eventually I was like I gave up on cleaning my basement cuz I I went from the dishes like you said to the to trying to cut the grass to suddenly I'm down in the basement trying to throw every like you know organized cuz there's a bathroom down there and worried people go see that and then I'm all of a sudden I'm in the living room watering the [ __ ] plane. What is happening with my life?
>> It's like the more [ __ ] you >> and nothing gets done and people are like why are you so tired? I'm like did you not see everything? I did 15 tasks today. Are you kidding? None of them are complete, but I >> started when you was doing >> I was in there painting the bathroom cabinets. Um, and I I bought the white paint so I could touch up the bathroom cabinets. I paint them and I was like, "Okay, I need to let that layer dry."
Come outside because I was like, "I'm going to use the extra paint on my front porch chairs." I get outside and was like, "Well, I can't paint the chairs yet because the front porch is a mess."
I ended up I done washed the door. I done cleaned the window sills. I was out here scrubbing the shutters. I I went and got a scrub brush to scrub the porch, the concrete on the was doing all kind of [ __ ] Three [ __ ] four hours done went by and I was like, "Yeah, we'll finish the cabinets later." That was a week ago. The paint's still in the bathroom. I just listen.
>> I used all my spoons.
>> Yeah, Dennis. So I whenever you see me on panels I'm not ho actually even when I'm hosting I'm at work during the day I split my brain that is how I'm able to focus. Don't ask me how it works but I split my brain to work and do this. So I I'm very very productive at work and it's because I'm not solely focused on one thing.
>> Yeah. That's why I like working at home because um I can literally and especially the type of work that I do.
>> I don't have to uh lock in super hard the whole day. Like I can do a whole hour's worth of work and then get up and do some other [ __ ] and then I'll go back and do a little more and then get up.
>> Show you what I mean. I when I bought this house a few years ago, the these walls were beige and white. Um so this is all crown molding and stuff, but I painted them black.
>> Camera the other way.
>> It took Can you see?
>> Yeah. sideways.
>> Took me two years.
>> But basically, >> good. I love the black.
>> Well, the problem is is like it took me like 15 days because I kept eventually I had to give up because this [ __ ] was going on >> and the obsession I was getting about it, I just had to give up because after like it was like 4 days realistically.
It was like 4 days and I was just like, you know what? Fine. Fine. [ __ ] it.
They're black enough.
If you get that close to see that [ __ ] don't piss me off cuz [ __ ] >> why are you painting my [ __ ] walls?
Get out of my house.
>> But so I painted the but I got it a matte black but it took forever just because my ADHD was just obsessing about those stupid little bleeds and it was just getting worse and worse and worse.
I'm just like, you know what? [ __ ] I'm done. I'm done.
>> That's why I bought the paint, though.
Like there's literally nothing wrong with the cabinets, but there's they painted the bathroom walls are like grayish or whatever. And that same thing, I could see the spots where it got on the door frame a little bit and like a little bit got on the cabinet and I was like, "Oh, [ __ ] no. I'm about to fix that [ __ ] right now."
>> Like it it did. It took [ __ ] forever.
I mean, it looks good.
That's the worst part cuz I'll forget and then I'll look up and be like son of a [ __ ] >> That's exactly what happens too. I look up every day when I'm at my desk if I'm and I look up and I'm like [ __ ] I'm getting so mad.
So I have to try to ignore it as much as I can because otherwise I'll be back up at it just making it worse still cuz I put painters tape up and it bled through the painters tape. Yeah, that's what would have got me cuz not me taking precautions. Oh no. Oh hell no.
>> And I did. And I spent like a whole day just taping them [ __ ] lines and creases to make sure they were sharp and that [ __ ] still bled through. And every time I try to freehand fix it, you would just >> And I've learned I learned a long time that um those type of projects are not my ministry.
But the bane of my existence is unloading the dishwasher. Because when I I'm not a normal person who takes the cups, put it in the cabinet as you're unloading. No, I open the dishwasher, I take the clean, so I put it on the cabinet behind me, and then when it's time to like the silverware, I just dump it in the drawer, and I'm like, "Okay, I'll just I'll just, you know, organize it when I'm get done. I'll put the dishes up that you see, but do I ever remember to straighten out the silverware drawer?
No. So, people come over or I'll go to get dinner or I cook something and I look in there and I have everything just scattered in there. I totally forgotten.
And then usually, and I lied, I don't always put I didn't want I didn't I don't always put the dishes up. I always forget. I forget something because I move it to the side and like my house is clean, but I'll move it to the side to where it's like next to the microwave or it's like on the counter. And so my sister um who's recently moved in with me, she takes pictures and she's like, "What happened here? What happened here?" Because I will totally forget squirrel moment and I'm gone to do something else. It's It's so bad. It's so bad.
>> No, I I it And it's it's those big things coupled with all the little stuff that eventually just makes me be the most biggest procrastinator. And it's so frustrating.
>> Do you get like so overwhelmed? It's like you just paralyze and it's like you have all these things that you have to do, but you literally are just sitting down or just laying in bed like, "Oh my god, I have to do all this shit." But you're just paralyzed and you just can't do it.
>> Yep. And what winds up happening is I sit down and I play my PS5.
>> Yes. Or a book on Tik Tok.
or a montouch or because I have ADHD, I'm doing both. I am usually on a panel while playing a game.
>> Yes, >> absolutely.
>> Yes, >> I am absolutely on a panel. There's most likely I am playing my PS5 at the same time.
>> Like when you see me on Bill's live and I'm on mute, I'm playing the game on my other phone. I'm missing half the conversation.
>> Oh, I'm not missing the conversation though. It's horrible.
>> I'm still in the conversation. Unless I'm on a boss fight, then then I might tap out for it.
>> Then I might back after that boss fight's over.
>> You better hope I get off mute sometimes on bars live or on be live like when we be in there for a while and I'll tap out and then I'll hear something crazy and I'll be like, "Wait, >> let me let me get back to this." that back cuz I was kneede in [ __ ] hanging curtains and [ __ ] What did you look like?
>> It's just so good to know I'm with my peoples to get each other.
>> I wish I had found out a lot sooner because I just got diagnosed. Like it's been it's been like a year now. Um >> but I listen and the way that my Christian mama cuz I'm I'm not joking. I was getting depressed and I was like, "Y'all there is something wrong with me." Like y'all ain't listening. Like I think y'all think I'm just being lazy or like I just don't want to like no there's something wrong with me.
>> My parents thought I was lazy but it turns out I was just overloaded. I couldn't >> and I looked into it and my aunt is the one that ended up saying um she was like that sounds like you know what Jill went through and she was like uh we went and got her tested uh for ADHD and so she sent me to the doctor that my my cousin went but when she said ADHD I you know did just a bunch of looking into it and I was like oh my god I think I have this but I didn't want to self diagnose but I told my mom that I was going to get tested and she was like Don't speak that over yourself. You just need to pray about it. Girl, [ __ ] you. Listen, I love you, but get [ __ ] uhuh and I would have still been suffering right now.
>> I was in the sanctuary. When I was telling someone how I had ADHD, they're like, "Oh, don't claim that." I said, "Pause."
>> I said, "I have ADHD."
>> Yeah.
>> There is nothing wrong with saying what what you have >> so that you know how to operate through life.
>> And she's like, "Wait, let me clear it up." Listen, I tell you >> not you talking about don't claim that.
I didn't claim it. It claimed me. [ __ ] like >> my parents are like don't claim that you you're sick and have anaphilaxis. My body does not choose if I have anaphilaxis or not. My mom is >> and if she would if she were to tell me to pray about it, I'd say no mom. What you need to do is pray to that St. Nicholas, the one that you pray to for lost things cuz you lost your mind.
>> I'm not very >> This one This one woman told me, we were talking about um whatever that was years ago >> and we were talking about me being fat or something. She's like, "Oh, don't claim that you're fat." I looked down. I looked at her. I said, "So, what is it?
What What do I say?"
>> She didn't talk to me after that. A day after that.
>> All right. Uh Lyen, are you ever 18?
Yes, I don't.
>> All right. What do you want to say?
>> I can say. Okay. So, regarding your prompt, I think it is true, it is the case that white men, well, men in general, heterosexual men, because they they have the numbers, right?
>> No. So we have more >> per capita. They're the ones that do this >> per capita.
>> Yeah.
>> How? Okay. Because I think the idea of is it like a a modern uh this is this a recent study?
>> No, you can look at history and see that men are always usually the problem.
>> Yeah. So in history of course because per capita I don't think you will even consider >> perap yeah the number you have of LGBT men back in the day it would be insignificant to be able to >> there's still the same number of gay people in the world just now they're out whereas before they used to hide.
>> Yes. So obviously when we we're talking about something we can verify we know that there are people in the closet even still today. So but we have to b for example okay and also >> yeah so maybe in make I also bring this point let's say where there is a study and maybe you want to find out a society that is the happiest right obviously there's no way to do you know a more general and get the data to be accurate you can just say okay we can use metrics >> we're specifically talking right >> yeah I I'll apply it just trust me or apply it to the topic. So, and we can say okay we use self on okay selfalignment as a metric because that we can objectively verify. is not going to say okay we've assessed everybody in this society but we can just use a particular metric and say self analyzement at least can give us an objective basis to say this society looking at the pattern >> sir sir sir sir happy so now coming back to the point >> sir sir >> the points above are statistically true for everything in that category so when we say that straight men harm kids we mean that abuse of sexual and violent natures.
Statistically, straight men cause this this the this to be the mo the most cause this the most. The second point, straight men cause harm to women the same way they do with children physically and sexually, not trans people who they blame, at least in our country.
They blame trans people and restrict them. And then they also are the ones who commit the most hate crimes against gay people statistically.
>> So I recognize that. But you know when people are making these claims they are in my from my own standpoint I think they are mostly referring to crimes not like a violent other violent crime >> as a whole violence >> that is a violent crime >> and rape which is also a violent crime.
Yes.
>> Yeah I agree with you. I'm I'm saying the people the people opposite the people making the opposite >> argument property crimes.
>> Yeah, I agree with you. I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm saying the people like let's let's call them rightwing the right-wing people or maybe the anti-LGB.
>> It's not just right-wing >> the anti-LGB. I think it's fair to call them anti-LGB.
>> Right men as a whole do these things. It doesn't matter if they're left or right.
That's not what's broken up. It's as a whole.
>> I'm talking about people making the argument. I'm not talking about the the particular argument itself. The people who are making the claim about how LGBT people harm kids. That's what I'm saying. When they are making that claim, they are saying what they are referring to most of the time at least the way I understand it is they mostly referring to you know attacks, smile crimes.
>> Um maybe I agree with you generally of course treatment harm kids generally because harm is not only spectral it can be you know physical attack and all yeah >> so now if you want to use a particular metric because uh I've actually had a discussion on this point and they bring in especially this Catholic church cases and uh another one is some what is it called what is it called uh the church own has talked to my mind because I'm a Catholic. So, but I'm trying to remember this one.
Anyway, the priest one is that uh the studies they did show that uh uh that the most although uh how do I put it that 80% of the abuse you know was of a homosexual nature.
So, >> but no, but abuse was of a homosexual nature. If it was a child, that's not because they're gay.
>> No, I mean on the part of the priest. On the part of the priest, the priest that committed these crimes.
>> Where did you get that they were gay from?
>> Sorry.
>> Where did you get that they were gay from?
>> Uh the the uh the person I have to take a minute to look it up because but if I remember the person who >> No, no, wait. Hold on. Slow down. Slow down. Slow down.
>> Okay. Okay.
>> Breathe.
>> I'm breathing while I'm >> Can I find Hi.
>> Where can I find this information that the Catholic preach who were touching on the children were gay?
>> I'm looking. Okay. So, I think >> that is the claim you just made.
>> No problem. Don't worry. I already found it. So, so I think >> but it's a site.
>> Give me a second.
>> Thought you found it.
>> Yes. Is on uh fail archive. Fail archive >> is where?
>> Phil like philosophy. Fail. P H I L.
>> Then archive. Archive. Phil archive. One word. Phil archive.
>> What is What is the phil archive?
Uh he says he's the largest open access errint archive in philosophy. So >> what why are you talking about philosophy >> for gay?
>> That's where the information is. That's where someone put it. That's where someone uploaded >> the philosophy website has the stats on how many priests are gay.
>> Is just where I found the work. I just looked the keyword.
>> The work of who?
I'll open the I one second.
>> Is it the study is it the paper cited on 2018 is smecial abuse by Catholic clergy related to homosexuality?
>> So don't worry let me just give you the headline so you can keep looking it up with me. So it says ismeual abuse by Catholic clergy related to homosexuality.
>> So what I just read out loud >> sorry >> so what I just read out loud >> is that what you just read? Yes.
>> Okay. Okay. Then maybe that's is by by uh Paul Solins.
>> Uh-huh.
>> D Paul Solins. Yeah. So yeah, he said he collected all the studies available on available data shows him, you know, the claim made in this report. So >> it's taken from Catholic Bioeththics Month or quarterly, >> right?
>> That's a biased ass website if group if ever there was one. What what is their method of of of this study? What is the method they used?
>> Phil archive.
>> Phil archive. Oh no. Someone says something about bioeththics or something.
>> Yeah, that's where it was published.
>> Okay. Okay. Okay.
>> Because Phil archive. Okay. Let me Okay, let me help you. The website you gave is where they're taking opinions written by people in other magazines or on random websites putting it together for a philosophical spin. It's not peer reviewed. It's not factual. It's opinions.
>> Okay. So, uh I just scroll down. He says about the the person who did this research solins PhD is a senior research associate >> and he says earlier version >> he's a Catholic >> was presented as a >> the doctor he or quote unquote >> yeah the yeah but the record yeah the record came from the church all the record of the >> the church that covers up is claiming that. Of course, they're going to claim that.
>> Are you crazy?
>> Not the church saying this. To be clear, it's not the church saying >> that is the church saying that.
>> No, the person aggregated all the available data. It's not the church saying this. Just to be clear, >> if he collected their opinions, he didn't collect data. He collected opinions. Number one, >> what I see here, what I see here is he said data. I didn't see uh he said what >> if he what is the data that he collected? What did he collect?
>> He says uh >> Paul Sullins is associate professor of sociology at the Catholic University of America. has been married for 30 years and has been a Catholic priest for more than 10.
>> So you mean a Catholic priest? Excuse me. Excuse me. Hi. Thank you so much.
>> So a Catholic Excuse me. One second, Bookie. So a Catholic priest >> wrote a paper that said the reason why his fellow brethren was touching on children was because they were gay.
That sounds legitimate.
>> Yes. And he says it's based on available data. So he's not saying that >> data.
>> Okay. Okay. So >> twin.
>> Well, you can I'm guessing you find it because there you find it in the in the >> No, I'm asking you what data >> we are reading it together. It says okay on one page. The reason why he's stumbling and fumbling is because on this Filro website, you can't even pull up the original source. It's just an abstract.
>> I have the original. I have the whole thing.
>> Okay. Then what is the data they pulled?
What was the method in which they used to pull it? And what was the conclusion?
>> Yeah. So, you're already assuming I've gone through the whole thing. We are doing it together.
>> Yes. If you're going to site one and say that it's fact, I'm going to assume you read it.
>> I never said it's fact. I just presented it.
>> Then why would you present it if it's not fact? If you don't know it, >> do you not know that I I've looked at the stats for this? This is why I made these claims, >> right? So why would you present something you don't know?
>> I presented something as I see it. I'm not saying that this is true. I present I presented it to you for consideration.
Why would I consider it when it's a biased website that doesn't allow you to have a bi a decent objective source that has not been peer-reviewed?
>> So, I'm already getting the feedback.
So, that's what I'm expecting. You give me your feedback.
>> Oh, you're doing a peer review on this.
>> You can say that. You can say that. I presented it to you for your, you know, you tell me what to think of it.
>> Why should I be telling you what to think about it? You should know what to think about. You should read it. It's not something I spend my time going to.
I I don't really I'm not really concerned about listening. It's not like something I I don't care because >> I don't I don't want to put it on the screen because it might get flagged with the bot. The reason why he's stumbling because when you go to is sexual abuse by Catholic clergy related to homosexuality and you click on it to open it, you cannot open the paper. you can see the abstract and that's it. Even when you click on the original source, the National Catholic Bioeththics Quarterly um volume 18 and citing 2018, it doesn't take you to anything. So that's why he's asking our opinion on it cuz he did a quick little headline Hoochie search and now there's nothing else to back it up. But he didn't expect us to actually focus on his source. He just wanted us to focus on his opinion.
So if you look here, you can see the pages, right?
Uh what where's the page?
>> What does that how what does that do for us?
>> You can see the page because she's just making saying something that is false.
>> I am asking I have asked you multiple times what is the data they collected and how did they do it?
>> Then let her put it up. You'll find the data inside. I've not >> looking at it right now. So just tell me.
>> Okay, then let's do it together. Okay, I'll be doing it together. go to it and just tell me why what >> you're already there. Okay, then okay, give me a minute. I will do it. Okay. I don't see how this is problem. I I'm not here to find this.
>> I don't know why it's a problem either.
I've asked you if I did I made a mistake. You have I did make a mistake. Correct. You can download it.
>> You do have to click on the download, click plain text, and then join Phil Bro site to read it.
>> You got to join the site. That doesn't help either.
>> I'm not a priest. I'm not a priest, but I forgive you in the name of the Father and of the Son of the Holy Spirit.
>> I don't I don't need your forgiveness.
>> It's okay. It's okay.
>> You didn't ask for your forgiveness. She just stated that she made a mistake.
>> Yeah, but as a Christian, I'm not ask too, Li, and she doesn't need your your >> Yeah, I'm commanded to forgive anybody.
You don't have to ask for it.
>> She didn't do anything to commit an offense for you to forgive.
>> Yes, she did. She violated my >> Well, see, okay. Well, then you're bearing false witness on on gay people.
How about that?
>> Isn't when the Ten Commandments, thou shall not bear false witness? And aren't you lying on gay people, saying that um and I'm I'm speaking generally that gay people commit the most crimes, special crimes against uh children, especially when it came to the Cath Catholic um uh uh scandals. That was over a 50-year period.
I've not heard anyone made that claim actually.
>> Well, see that see that's the actual claim and that's actually what the scandal was. And if you actually cared about truth and not trying to defense of your faith or what you think is right and you actually follow the data, you follow the information, you wouldn't try to be blaming gay people for this.
>> Even this study doesn't make that claim.
The study even this study, if you if you're going to take it for what it is, still doesn't make the claim.
>> Try to use that. Don't don't [ __ ] pop.
Now you trying to back back back up from your claim when you came up here. You tried to make the claim that the reason why the the them preachers was touching on them little kids was because they were gay and then you pulled up this site to to show look a study was done to prove that this is right.
>> Yeah, but that's different from generalizing it the way you did. Now what you just said, >> you didn't even verify the sources or anything. That is the problem. You did generalize by saying this happens without even verifying anything of what you were making the claim with >> because it's not my claim. I just told you >> that's literally what you said. It is your claim.
>> You can play the video back. I know what I believe and what I don't. I just presented you. I say this is what exists there. This is what I found. This is what I've seen. You know, >> Marian, do you care um that whether they're gay or not, right? Which this is a totally separate topic because you're just trying to put the blame on them being gay, but that doesn't change the fact that there are kids in the church being harmed by the preachers and the pastors. Do you do research into that? Do you have this much uh animosity for them?
>> No. No. You realize that when it hold on when it comes to people in positions of power, they take a they take opportunities >> to do what they're going to do. It doesn't mean that they are heterosexual, homosexual, whatever. When when we're talking about predators who are in positions of power, >> they're they're going for opportunities.
>> Okay?
>> There's nothing to disagree with that.
>> Okay? And he said, "No."
>> He said, "No." So, you don't you don't give a [ __ ] that this is showing that the kids are being harmed in the church because you do realize by you trying to point out that they're gay and that's why they're doing it. It's still happening in your church that you go to in this religion that you hold so dear, right? But you're not worried about that part.
>> I said I brought it up because I don't know what to make of these studies. I brought it up to you guys because I'm thinking since you guys are in this quote unquote business, you already know maybe how to counter it. We're not in this business for just you probably have seen it before.
>> You probably have seen it before. That's why I brought it up. You don't know what I believe personally.
>> No. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.
My point is we are no different than you. We learn these things by simply reading and knowing how to verify things. You didn't have to come up here to ask us what our opinion of this is, knowing what our opinion likely would be, in order to find out what you should make of it. All you had to do was read and see if they were a viable, valuable, or reliable source.
>> That's That's fair. That's fair. I'm not a mind reader, so I wouldn't know how you would have reacted. I'm not a mind reader. Say, "Okay, I should have gone through I chime in. I've read the source and I've read the methodology and I'm giving my peer review here. So, >> thank you. Finally, >> in the table that that is trying to make the claim that it's using a correlation and we all have heard the term correlation is not causation. Right.
>> Right. They're saying that that as more uh like homosexual activity is being reported that that abuse uh cases were being reported and that the correlation was was the reason why they were saying that that the priests that are causing the abuse are must then be homosexual.
This is just very very bad reporting.
It's a that's terrible methodology. Not only that, the indicator that they're using is saying homosexual activity. It is not actually using data on the actual like sexual identity or orientation of these priests. This is talking about that they had reported any kind of homosexual activity. So again we have another like weakness in this study. So I personally the fact that it's also written by a Reverend Solins uh bothers me and yeah I for those reasons I'm out dog.
Please thank you for that. So at least someone finally did what I what I came here for.
>> What you did?
>> Thank you. I appreciate that.
>> What you should have done yourself.
>> What you should have done yourself.
>> Yeah.
>> I would also recommend >> May I call to remember just for one moment if I can have 20 seconds.
>> Um Leviathan Levian learn whatever your name was. I'm going to sing you a song from my childhood.
Revelations. Revelations 218 218 Liars go to hell. Liars go to hell. Burn burn burn.
>> I'm [ __ ] >> not you not you singing a children's song about going to hell to Fever Jaca.
Um >> so I do want to I want to give a a source that's actually like very well uh documented here and like it's very easy for people to read. It's not like this weird, you know, quote unquote peer-reviewed study. it just the zeroabuse project.org just Google zeroabuse project and sexuality of offenders 80% of like men who you know molested little boys were heterosexual.
>> Mhm. Exactly.
>> Like that it is what it is guys. I'm sorry it sucks to hear but these are the facts.
>> I don't know if he was tracking what I was asking him either. Like you do realize that by you coming up and using that to try and attack the the topic about straight men harming kids, you are in turn agreeing that this happens at the church a lot.
>> Yeah, >> you're not an ally. [ __ ] out of here.
That's why I asked you, do you do you pull up sources um to find out the numbers of of children being harmed in churches? Do you have conversations with Christians and pastors and priests about that? No. You're not an ally.
>> Allies would have done the work and looked this stuff up ahead of time to find out what something was.
>> And allies don't just attack marginalized communities.
Like that was disgusting >> because no matter what you what your claim you try to do, you're lying because you would not have presented that without prompting to be to present that.
Just knowing full well what our reaction or our response was going to be to you showing us that.
Like you can't tell me you didn't you were completely oblivious to what you were doing.
Like I just don't buy it.
I don't buy it.
>> Also and like relying on correlation is a very very bad way to like get to any kind of conclusion. Like 100% of people that drink water die. Did you guys know that? So water must be poison.
>> I wasn't irrational. Valyrian, you brought up something unprovoked that was clearly harmful in rhetoric to a specific community that I'm assuming you knew I was a part of.
How else would you expect someone to react?
>> And who has a guilty conscience? Like about what, [ __ ] You're the Christian, >> right? You're the [ __ ] that still supports these places. Why would I have a guilty conscience? I don't harm children or go to church. [ __ ] y'all.
>> I am learning to be more calm with these fools.
I feel like when I talk low and slow, it helps.
It helps.
>> It also helps that you have bass in your voice.
>> That does help a little bit, too. Maybe that does. But it it I've been trying really hard to stay calm because, you know, I like to cuss people out.
Trying not to do that. A new leaf and all, right? Like Lords used to try to do a new leaf.
I fail at this leaf a lot. I'm just saying. But I am trying.
>> Yeah. I had to stop lying to myself. I just go go for it. I thought you saying I'm lying to myself.
>> I'm talking about me because I used to think so. I'm just trying to hell no.
That stressed me out even wor. I'm just gonna cuss you the [ __ ] out.
>> Laren, I will have a bit of an emotional reaction because you came up without even reading your source or like looking at it. You just like searched for a source that that seemed to have validated your thoughts. That's not how like you should probably go about these things. You're only going to find yourself embarrassed.
>> That That was just You're not fooling anyone with your innocent act. It's just not working. Uh >> that's why I coined the term headline hoochie.
>> Headline.
>> Larry, don't be a headline hoochie. Do not be a headline hoochie.
>> I like that.
>> Don't do it. Don't do it.
Don't do it.
Uh, from where I'm at, those those women and men that would fall for that c under that category walk on a certain street called State Street. You know, Petty always talking about MLK in Maine.
>> That's State Street. Don't do it.
Don't do it.
>> Yeah. Um, Larry, and one last thing before I ignore you forever. Um, emotions means you're human. Because even as a fellow theist, right? We believe in Jesus. He got mad. He was flipping over the table and chasing folks with whips. He got angry. He showed emotion. So, I don't know what kind of robot person you are that doesn't show emotions. Maybe you're a sociopath.
>> He's a straight man. The men we're talking about, the very people we're trying to change. Yep. He's proving my point. Exactly. See, see, >> if you show emotion, it shows intelligence.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah.
>> Suppressing it is unhealthy. And that shows a lack of intelligence because you're doing it to a detriment.
>> Distract, come up and talk about it.
There's lots of evidence for this.
>> That takes five seconds to research.
Right.
>> Right.
I'm I'm so serious, y'all. Along with changing how we teach men to exist in this world, media literacy needs to be on every single bucket list of education we have for all people in this society because a [ __ ] that can't pick out a goddamn source or know when something's credible is a epidemic at this point.
>> Uh for Distrato, I'm embarrassed by the claims of the panel. What statistical proof is there to support this? Well, one is uh let's see here. Dr. A.
Nicholas Grath, researcher on adult male offenders and the author of the men who rape, psychology of the offender, states that it is a myth that adult males who molest boys are homosexual. He provides several clinical examples to back up his finding, including the connection that molesters see themselves in their victims, but would not be attracted to adult males.
>> Let's see.
That's just one little section of this Zero Abuse Project uh which is got tons and tons of information. Uh just Google Zero Abuse Project Sexuality of Offenders.
Let's see.
Let's see. Let's see. There are there are lists upon lists and study upon study uh all over the place. um from Bureau of uh of justice statistics to UK parliaments to PubMed. All of them having various studies of various kinds about various specific types of crimes and harm caused to men or caused to children and women and gay people. And all of them show that straight sis men are the problem.
>> You're [ __ ] me.
>> Here we are again with the it's all I all lives matter [ __ ] So other people don't cause harm. Nobody claimed that. But when the bulk of the problem is focused with one group of people, then we should probably look at that group of people.
>> Like the [ __ ] >> Well, just like your >> and this conception of all lives matter is wild. If you are a predator, it doesn't. I'm sorry.
>> Well, and I was going to say your prompt is not just about, you know, kids. It's also about women. It's about comparing it to trans people, which is a large like rhetoric that's going around that trans people are violent, that trans people are after your kids, >> etc., etc. And there's a pattern. That's why it says, "Do we see the pattern? The largest subsets of all of these topics is straight cis men." Right. And they blame gay the gay community as a whole, the LGBTQI community as a whole for harming kids. That ain't true.
>> We're saying Yeah. We're saying look in a mirror >> cuz it's y'all.
We understand that distractor. What we're telling you though is the bulk of the problem is centered with straight men. Why don't you want to deal with that?
>> Cuz I guarantee you by your responses, you're one of them. And I said this the other day. If you ask a man what their what their role is, they're going to say they're a protector. And then if you ask them who are they protecting, they're going to say women. Women and children.
Then ask them who they're protecting them from, and it's going to be [ __ ] just like him.
>> Snaps. Yep.
Oh, the screen name in the next line. I ain't never ain't no woman ever said, "Well, I had to get a husband because I need protection from from the gays. I had to get a husband cuz I need protection from other women." [ __ ] out of here.
>> I need protection from children.
>> Like, be serious.
>> No, they still commit most of the violence against women, which are half of the population. So no distrao, your your little point there doesn't add up.
It's still not correct because if that were case the case then they would not have such high rates among women as well. But they do >> and if we and if we need any further >> and it's per capita not for [ __ ] per per [ __ ] percentage of people it's [ __ ] per capita. Jesus Christ. And if you need any further um evidence, the Grape Academy that was just infiltrated when millions of men logged on to encourage, learn, and watch other men graing and assaulting their partners and teaching them how to do it.
>> Oh, where' Ariel go?
I was just about to ask that like, oh [ __ ] wait. She'll either be back or she won't. We'll see.
Imagine distracted being so so so unwilling to look at yourself and your your demographic and wanting to handle that. Instead, you're coming over here to try to deflect a group, a panel hosted by people whom you all harm.
Crazy.
>> Be an ally, >> right? Like that is crazy.
Yeah.
>> You're in here arguing with us when we're statistically talking about what is reality here >> and you're trying to to attack us instead of going and dealing with your demographic >> because the problem the ones who don't want to deal with the demographic are the ones that are causing it >> or allowing it to happen.
>> Yeah. probably thinks women should be subservient.
>> You know that whole locker room talk [ __ ] >> You are by coming over here and making the points you've been making in the chat. It's [ __ ] You know it's [ __ ] >> You're trying to what aboutism everything. You're trying to whataboutism from the point. That's an attack. I'm sorry because you're trying to distract from the pointto.
I'm sorry, that was funny.
>> Distract those people cuz you're part of the problem. Why blink?
>> Like you quite literally put it in your name. You're here to distract, not actually to hate or do well or make a valid point.
I love it when their names tell on themselves.
You know what I mean?
He literally calls himself a distraction and that's all his arguments are.
Distraction arguments >> because he has nothing better, >> right? That's crazy.
>> That's usually how it goes.
>> Yeah. They talk a lot of [ __ ] but be the main ones distracted by everything else and they want to blame the women like it's our [ __ ] fault.
>> [ __ ] yourself.
>> Imagine wanting to what aboutism other people so you don't have to deal with your problem.
That's crazy.
>> The privilege is insane.
>> Crazy.
>> All right y'all tap tap tap. Do the things. I want >> We are doing nothing.
>> Yes, we appreciate you. The shares are phenomenal. I appreciate that.
>> We were all like, "Where'd Ariel go?"
>> Damn, that didn't last long. What happened to him?
>> They nothing.
>> You were the one that was in the microwave.
>> All right, y'all. You know what you're doing. And I appreciate the shares. That is awesome. 216 shares. Let's keep working on the taps, though. Um, and maybe we'll get some more people in. In the meantime, we're just hanging out.
Just hanging out. I >> There's a specific person I wanted here, but no.
>> Can I just tell you, I'm still not over that whole Grape Academy thing. Like, I It's been bothering me so much for days.
>> I don't think any amount of hallucinogen could ever make me forget that. Like I just it it I am so incredibly bothered by the not the sheer volume I I I it's not like bothered as in I'm like I'm not living life but like bothered enough that like I'm constantly thinking about it like it it constantly keeps coming to my mind and I'm just that irritated with these people >> for what the [ __ ] >> darling I think we all are irritated >> like Get your [ __ ] [ __ ] together. Coming up here. What about is he is he? How do you say it? What about is he iss whatever?
>> All this [ __ ] while literally millions of men have logged and been into a website that specifically teaches them and lets them trade videos of raping their wives.
millions.
I don't understand why that's not bothering more people.
>> I genuinely don't understand. Like women, I understand why it's like it bothers you and you know about it already, which is why you're not like >> I hate to say it, but it doesn't surprise me.
>> No, it doesn't.
>> It really doesn't.
>> It doesn't surprise me either. It's what what bo the volume doesn't surprise me but bothers me that it's confirmed. I guess I I guess there's always a suspicion that that kind of stuff was happening but the sheer volume of it is just >> it's like surprised zero disgusted 100.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know if I ever told you this, but my brother, he actually was dosing his wife's coffee and that's how she got addicted and she had no idea.
>> Oh my god, that is >> Yeah, that's another reason why I, you know, >> distract you're not distracted. You're not bothered by it >> because you're over here. What about Izzing? What about the problem?
everybody instead of talking about the actual problem. We're dealing with that.
>> You be hiding the comrades that do that [ __ ] >> Edna, you've tried this before. You're You're I'm not being misogynistic.
You're ridiculous. You're a [ __ ] grifter. That's all you are. You're a grifter for turfs. I don't care what your opinion is.
>> Imagine being a pygmy for people that don't totally give a [ __ ] about you.
>> That's crazy. I think he might. You're a pygmy for turfs. I don't give a [ __ ] >> Distracted. Your intelligence is receding like your hairline. Hush up.
>> Damn.
>> I think he actually might be one of those offenders. One of those 62 million men that logged into that academy.
>> That's why he wants to define it.
>> Go away.
>> Right. Literally being a [ __ ] pick me for turfs against people of your own community because you just are that much of a person, that bad a person. I don't care what your opinion is.
>> I hope she knows they're not going to pick her.
>> First of all, OMQ, I never said 62 million men. I just said millions of men.
>> Don't put words in my mouth.
>> 62 million hits are on there.
>> Yes, >> I And I gave that number. I heard that that it actually is even higher than that.
>> I heard it was 84 million.
>> Well, that the 62 million hits was just a light day for them is what they said.
>> Oh, gotcha. Yeah.
>> Either way is disgusting.
>> Oh, absolutely.
>> But it's still millions of men. Even if it's not the full >> You're missing the point, >> Distra. I absolutely throw insult to people I don't know. You're telling me you're not the behaviors that deserve to be insulted.
>> Edna, you're telling me you're not a gay black man?
>> Yeah. Okay. Not your community. Okay.
>> That's fine. We don't want you anyway.
>> Yeah. We don't claim you anyway. That's fine. You go on ahead.
Be gone.
>> You a triple threat for the [ __ ] that don't give a [ __ ] about you.
I just want to say I'm drinking a strawberry apricot Red Bull right now and it's like liquid gold.
>> All these guys do energy drinks. I've never >> strawberry white >> strawberry apricot red.
>> Oh, I love those.
>> They're so good. That one and the white peach are my favorite. But you know, actually the only time the energy drinks did affect me, but I think it's probably because I had six like year bombs. It was I was in college. It was before my math test. I was at Retrievers Sports Bar in Statesboro, Georgia. And this guy was just buying us Jäger balls. I'm like just having a good time. And then I went was like, "Oh [ __ ] I got a math final the next day." Went home, could not sleep. My roommate's like, "Yeah, you've been drinking Red Bull all night." So I think maybe the quantity was up. I didn't listen young dumb didn't know what I was doing but that's the only time it's ever that and ghost only time it's ever affected me.
>> It's Red Bull I drink cuz it actually helps calm my brain. It makes me calm and it makes me relaxed. It's weird.
>> I thought okay I thought that was just me with the Alanis cuz that's why I said it has a calming effect and people think you're nuts.
>> It's almost like a sedative like loosely. Like I say that loosely but it just it does. It's almost like if I take a little bit of broccoli, if you know what I mean, and then some of that, I feel great.
>> Appreciate you, Benny. Thank you for being here.
>> Yeah. And you're a disgusting person. I really don't care again. You're just a pick me for turfs. You you all you're everything you say is [ __ ] I don't care.
>> I mean, you saw the first time. I'm confused. Like, >> right Edna is >> because Edna's a large uh he he is a turf uh debater. He loves to debate that trans women aren't women and aids on trans women because or trans women specifically. Uh because he he just >> I can't believe I beat you.
>> I should have threw it backwards.
>> No, that's what you [ __ ] get, [ __ ] >> That that that Christy that turf Christy woman that was up here that one day that everybody got kind of upset that I talked to for a while. Um well known in the same community.
E.
>> Ain't nobody got time for that.
>> Yeah.
willing to ignore everything that that across the board medically and scientifically and just in general and personal experience that's on you. I don't really give a [ __ ] You can sit there and claim all that all you want because it makes you money. Sure.
>> On the topic though, like >> right, >> Edna's just because Edna came in and said, "Oh, it's misogyny."
>> Misogyny. She claimed misogyny.
Please, Edna, get a life.
>> Edna, you're feeding into the misogyny with the side that you're on.
>> All back.
>> All backed by women who feed into it, too. It's crazy.
>> Eight men. It's wild.
>> Well, that's disappointing cuz wasn't Edna really really cool on wasn't it the Incredibles? Wasn't Edna the best one?
So, >> unfortunately, Tik Tok Edna mode is the opposite of what we want there. That upsets me.
>> How dare you? How dare you ruin it?
>> We've had a conversation, Edna, and you weren't worth my time. You ignore all things true and reality based and scientific and medical based. You ignore all consensus for your feelings, and those are your turf followers. You came in, they crashed out, they called me all kinds of names, and you used really ridiculous arguments and didn't want to actually have a conversation. So, I don't care. Yes, we have. You've literally been in here before. Just cuz you don't remember is not my problem.
>> No, you were definitely in here and I've seen I've seen you have a conversation u with Ty. I think that's the only other time.
>> Mhm.
>> Um but yeah, it gets very like hateful.
>> We had a conversation several months ago and all of your little Edna Mode little follower turf women came up in here threatening violence, claiming everybody [ __ ] did all this [ __ ] blah blah blah blah blah.
>> I didn't kick you because you were 21. I don't I take 18 and over, not 21. That's a lie, Edna. I take 18 and over.
>> That would have been Ty. That would >> That would have been Ty who kicked you for not being 21.
>> She is very very strict on the 21.
>> Hey, Kasha. Uh, but yeah. So, no. No, you're you're you're ridiculous.
>> Which it would have been Ty. It was probably me then that kicked you cuz you weren't 21.
>> My panels have always except for like a one week or two week span where my panels have always been 18 and up.
>> How old are you though? You're not even 21.
>> No. Edna is a weak young little thing that all the turfs have fallen for for some reason. I don't know why.
>> Is Is Edna a man or a woman?
>> Yeah. A very young uh black gay man from the looks and sound of things that I caught. Yeah.
>> Oh, okay.
>> No, Edna, you're not coming up. I already told you you're not worth my time.
>> Edna, you're on the wrong side of history. That's sad.
No, I was going to say though, like it it really is hard to have conversations when you do have like a huge group of people that will come and just start throwing insults and being hateful and weird. It just doesn't >> Oh, yeah. I got so many death threats from his little followers after he came through. It was ridiculous.
>> I don't know. But that's also not the topic. Like, I'm confused why you're trying to debate about that. It's not what we're talking about. It's not an echo chamber. I'm actually talking.
>> I'm not talking about you like you're not here. You're in my comment section making comments. I am talking to you.
You don't have to be up here for me to dismiss you. Bye.
>> Even in front of me, bro. That >> I didn't even know who you were. That's why I asked for clarification is cuz I have no idea who you are.
>> All right. Nobody cares. Ed >> and nobody cares and I won't remember you tomorrow. So that's fine. You're not important to remember.
>> You know what? And uh who do you think they're going to come after when they're done with the trans community? It's going to be your community next.
So the fact that you aren't defending the very community that would defend you when they start coming after you is wild.
Oh, because what you you think the leopard won't eat your face, Edna?
>> Is that it?
>> There's a whole lot of mega hat women right now who are realizing that the leopard's eating their face. They [ __ ] around and found out.
>> Scared of you. What I am is tired of the [ __ ] Like you gaslight and you don't have real opinions. You have [ __ ] talking points. You ignore all consensus from medicine and biology and and science in general. What do I have to debate you for? You're a piece of [ __ ] person. I don't care.
I don't care what you hear, Edna. You can hear that all day. If that's what you got to tell yourself to feel better so that you can get your props with your little turf women that you grift from, go right ahead. I don't give a [ __ ] >> Oh, does he like is is he like pandering to like Lip Curl Girl, the one for who's like super MAGA, that kind of turf?
I have no idea. I don't know who that is.
>> Have you ever She like She does uh she'll lip sync to songs, but she wears MAGA. She's super MAGA. Like we're talking crazier than Riley Gain's MAGA >> and she like does this weird lip curl every time she m lip sinks. It's like the stupidest thing.
>> Yeah. And again, you griff from I don't have I'm not after the clout. You are.
You're you're out to griff from turf women. I'm not out to griff from anybody. So yeah, you can make fun of how many viewers I got. I don't care.
>> Like, okay, >> Eda, you might as well be MAGA with the views that you have.
>> Like, I genuinely don't care.
Genuinely don't care.
If you want to, if you want to sit there and and you know, >> put yourself in harm's way by catering to these people. You go right ahead, girl.
Go right ahead, girl.
>> Edna, you're the one crashing out in some random lives comment section because they won't let you up.
Hey, Nick. I'm gonna need >> Not Edna telling a woman what a woman what that they need to figure out what a woman is. Edna, are you being misogynistic?
Edna's literally in my chat telling a woman that they don't know what a woman is. That seems awful misogynistic. Edna.
>> Oofa.
>> Anyways, Nick, I was going to tell you if you could get Canada to come take their snow back from Alaska, that would be great.
Um, like send it down because my allergies have been in overdrive with the snow melt and and the snow mold and the dust and >> I feel you with that. It's so bad.
>> Just just return to sender because I would like to have it back so I can breathe again.
>> So appreciated.
Itchy eyes, itchy face. I just I can't breathe. It's been ridiculous this last week.
>> Oh, I feel you. For all of those of you suffering allergies, I'm so sorry. My heart is sad for you.
>> Oh, Eva, you're still here. Girl, we thought you left. Nobody cares again.
>> It's Christ.
>> Literally, no one cares.
>> This is not Delta. You do not have to announce your departure. You can just go the [ __ ] You literally are misogynist. You told a woman that she don't know what a woman is in my own chat. So, okay. Oh, and you reported me. That's crazy.
>> Wow.
>> Wow. And that's pathetic.
>> We block them or no.
>> Real pathetic.
Real real pathetic.
I'm mad you won't debate me so I can get all my turf people in here to give you death rats.
>> See, and that's what happens when you come into a space and your brain is not fully developed.
Come back when your brain is fully developed. Get that preffrontal cortex.
>> You can go and get blocked, [ __ ] for my last departing trick before I um depart. Do y'all want to hear? I know.
Is Craig still in here or did she Did they leave?
>> Uh I don't know if Chris still here. I can't see my viewers. Ever since the last few updates, I've not been able to see a single viewer in here.
>> Oh well.
>> Edna's been blocked.
>> He's still here.
>> Yeah, Edna's been blocked. I have no interest.
>> I think Cray is still here. I have a feeling Edna will be back on a fake account.
>> Go ahead.
>> Just an inkling suspicion.
>> But they he has like millions or like almost several thousand like a lot of followers. A lot of followers. Like if I would have let him up >> if I would have let him up viewership would have jumped up to around three or 400 but they would have all been hurt his turfs. Uh, and all of them are insufferable as [ __ ] If any if my last experience with them was anything to go with.
>> I was trying to tell him though, like it it genuinely makes it hard to even have a discussion or a debate or whatever because you've got 300 people in here throwing slurs and calling names and fighting with the comments and doing [ __ ] like you just did like telling women we don't know what women are and all kind of weird [ __ ] Like, you don't want a conversation. and you want a show, go somewhere else. I don't know, >> right? And I'm not here to help you grift turf women. Like, I don't that's not my like if you wanted to have if if I thought Edna actually wanted a conversation, I would have brought them up. But I'm not stupid. I've had my experience with Edna before and I know how that was going to go.
literally denies everything and every stat and every fact you bring up. Show a source, but then when you show the source, steamrolls and gets and and doesn't let it doesn't take it in. So, I have no use.
>> I just will never get over or understand. What business is it of yours?
I don't I I don't like I got enough stuff going on my own life to worry about my own stuff >> than to try to control somebody else >> or have an opinion on something. I may have questions just cuz I'm nosy as hell, but it's all in, you know, support and I just want to know, but it's never because I want to demonize or make you feel bad for living your true authentic self. That's crazy. And what's crazy is his entire emmo is he is a gay black man catering to mostly white turf women >> who give him money to bash his community aka trans people.
He is not trans. He is part of the gay community but he doesn't like trans people and doesn't like them in the community. But it's all a grift for those straight white women that support him.
>> Wow.
>> Of course it is. Especially considering he's not even 21. Cuz I didn't know that. Like, oh, that makes sense.
>> Yeah. Especially at only being 21.
>> Your frontal cortex isn't even fully developed yet, >> right?
>> You can't even rent a car.
But yeah, getting money from 40 and 50 year old women. Yet you going to tell me you you are for women.
>> You know that they're grifting those women then. They don't truly believe that at the end of the day. I mean >> that's my point. That's why >> they defend you on your game though, sir.
like you telling me you don't like trans people because all these old white ladies giving you money or even I maybe not even necessarily old white ladies but just white ladies in general for the most part giving you money. Come on >> Bryant using you. You better be careful.
>> Has Has Distrato come up?
>> No.
>> Distrato, why don't you come on up and have a discussion with a trans individual? That's why we like we quit talking to him in the chat because of that. He's just been chirping.
>> No, I do not expect me to. I do.
Distrato, I don't expect you to care for me. I don't want you to care for me. I don't want you near me.
>> Distra.
>> Okay, beautiful. Distrato, for Tik Tok purposes, can we get your age?
>> 50.
>> Beautiful. So, you know what? When I was a teenager, I remember, and this was all over the news up here in Canada, there was a man who had gone into a woman's restroom after a little girl, not not a trans woman, man. And he did unspeakable, unthinkable things to that kid. Luckily, she uh finally got some screams off and parents were able to run in and help her. Again, that was a trans woman who did that. That was a sis white man who uh just wanted to do heinous horrible things to little girls.
Now I've spent 40 years on this planet.
Never once have I ever had that fear at trans women.
Never once has has a trans woman followed a a little girl into the bathroom then her but men have. I also remember um time when there was a restaurant owner who got busted for having cameras inside the uh toilet seats and women's bathrooms so he could watch them do their business. Again, that wasn't a trans woman did that. That was a sis way too male who did that. Um, the demographic that you're pointing fingers at is not the demographic that you need to be pointing fingers at.
>> Fingers in anymore.
>> So then why why you why are you down there arguing? What what's what's the uh argument?
>> Well, just curious how we can say, you know, not like there's not been any harm done.
I mean, I'm not saying that the first part of the state is not true, but you can't say that it hasn't happened at all.
>> Nobody has said nobody else has caused harm. Why do you keep saying that?
>> Well, the word not >> harm it. If you get the point, then so what?
>> Right. If it's not you, why is it bothering you?
>> I'm just saying the statement. I'm not saying >> what's wrong with the statement.
Well, it's not factual.
>> I'm going to ask you the same question that I asked.
>> How is it not factual when the primarily statistically it's straight men, not the LGBTQIA?
>> More so straight white men >> specifically. Yeah.
>> I mean, if you just said more than then that's true, >> right? Like change more than 70%.
It's not just more.
Well, it doesn't if you're 30% or less doesn't mean it didn't happen.
>> I said more than 70%. That is my point.
If anything is more than 70% on the side of something, >> then it is not just more.
>> Also, you do you do understand that like and and I I I say that I say this without trying to sound like an [ __ ] but it's going to come off like I'm being an [ __ ] and I'm fine with that. But you do understand that like the American reading level like is a like the literacy rate of America is like a fifth grade reading level. Like when we talk about literacy, right, you should have been able to read that and understand that the the conversation wasn't that solely straight men harm kids, right? Okay.
If I can slight correction, dreadful.
Um, you are you are spot on. But the statistic is that majority of Americans read on a sixth grade reading level have a comprehension of a third grade reading level. Correct.
>> Oh, >> absolutely.
>> Absolutely.
>> Now, what majority is the what is the the majority demographic in America?
>> Uh, white people.
So, white people read at a sixth grade level and understand in a third grade level. So, you are spot on. And he just made that statistic true by not being able to understand what the prompt says.
>> That's that's like my whole point, right? Cuz it's like it's like nobody should have to go into detail and say like, you know what I'm saying? Like I I I'm not saying or add Chicago style footnotes and say I'm not saying I think only white. misunderstand.
That's why it's pissing me off. He understands. He's just rather focused on that word instead of the topic at hand.
Do you care more about it saying not >> or do you care more about the overwhelming majority being straight men that do this harm?
>> That's what I'm saying is the population is overwhelming straight and like you're saying the majority of the population is white. So, I mean to say that it's >> that doesn't have anything to do with what I just asked you.
>> It's per capita. That doesn't matter.
Like, >> do you care more about the word?
>> There's going to be more because there is more.
>> Do you care more about the word not or about your straight white men counterparts that do the majority of the harm?
>> Why does no one know what per capita means?
heard on >> a thirdy level.
>> You got to come off of mute. But yeah, you're just you're just saying a bunch of words. You're not really answering my question.
>> Sorry, ask it again. I forgot what you said.
>> I'll mute.
>> I'll do this. I don't know what mute has to do with listening, but I'll do this for you. Straight men harm kids more than LGBTQIA.
Now, let's talk about it.
>> Okay.
>> Agree or disagree?
>> I mean, as far as reported cases, yeah, I mean, but we don't really know exactly, you know, and of course per capita. Now, if we talk about per case, it's going to be more because there are more. But per capita, it could.
>> What do you all think per capita means?
>> He doesn't know. That's why he repeated it.
>> I just said per capita.
>> You said per capita and then gave the definition of it as an and as it's a separate thing.
>> Don't do it like that. Nico, >> you said per capita and per case. That is what per capita is.
Also, um you're correct, but not in the way you think you are, right? Because do you know how many women don't report because people don't believe them or they end up getting into a worse situation when they go and and tell.
So, if we had all of the reports, the number >> much higher than it actually is. And I'm not sure what you're appealing to. Well, there's more men, so of course we do more harm. What the [ __ ] Does that sound like a a a good excuse or a good copout?
>> It's not an excuse, >> right? So, do you care about the men or do you want to keep playing semantics?
>> Well, see the wording there, too. Do I care about the men?
>> Do you care that men again?
>> No, I don't care about those that do the >> white counterparts. That's so you you have >> this is the problem. Y'all don't care about the problem. You just care about putting something in place to retroactively go after people when it doesn't do that.
We're trying to fix the harm beforehand.
>> Yeah. And that's what we should. Yes.
But we shouldn't also shouldn't excuse it once it's done. We should still go after >> Nobody's saying that we should.
>> That's my question. Do you have this much? Do you go up on um panels or do you go to your your cousins and your uncles and whoever the men are in your life? Do you go to them and have as much um lip about these topics as you did when you kept talking about how the prompt was worded? Do you care that much?
>> Yeah, I call people out for the way they act.
>> 100%. I'm I'm about protecting uh women and children anyway.
>> Protecting women and children from who?
from anybody that wishes to cause >> specifically.
>> Yes.
>> Anyone. I don't have I don't care what you look like if you So then bookie that is why you have to stop being defensive in this conversation because all statistics US sentencing commission um uh Benny gave another source earlier that I can't remember right now. They all say the same thing.
cis, heterosexual, white males, specifically I'm adding the white part, harm women, children, the elderly, and animals at a higher rate than any other demographic.
and you as being a part of that demographic coming up here to not to willfully not understand this conversation and then say you're being a protector when you're denying the facts makes you part of the problem.
>> I didn't deny any facts.
>> I can promise you you're not the protector.
>> Also, per capita does not mean what you said it means. It means it means individually per person. What do you think? Oh my god. What do you think of my person?
>> What do you think a case?
>> This is exactly what I'm talking about.
Instead of responding to what Aaron just [ __ ] said, you're still playing the [ __ ] definition game and the name game and the semantics.
>> Let me actually give a [ __ ] about the topic at hand.
see yourself out cuz you're not talking about [ __ ] and you're about to piss me the [ __ ] off cuz I don't understand what you're up here for.
>> I don't you told me Let me Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let me ask you this. Right.
>> Why are men afraid to go to prison?
>> What What What's the two What What are What are two reasons men are typically afraid to go to prison?
>> Well, I don't want that kind of lover for one. So, I know what you're getting.
You don't want that kind of Okay, so we're talking about people forcing themselves on you. Who is going to be in there forcing themselves on you? Is it going to be women or men?
>> Well, it' be men. Yeah.
>> Okay, fantastic. Right. Um, what else happens in prison?
>> Outside of >> outside of sexual sexual violence, what else happens in prison? Do do they have riots and and and and people get poked up?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So the two main reasons, right, that men are fearful of going to prison, right? The only time we have to worry about that is if we get sentenced for a crime. Women, girls, children walk around with that fear daily, right? The only time I have to worry about or think about a man harming me, not even harming me, but the only time I have to consciously be aware that I could be essayed or harmed in that manner is if I go to prison. There are people who live their lives daily and just exist and that is their fear.
>> We can't shop in peace. We can't pump our gas in peace.
>> Can't can't can't can't you know what I'm saying? Just like Hanji said, like design their car how they want because >> what is it? One in three of us >> because one in three of us have had that happen to us at least once if not multiple times.
>> And I I tell you, no uh gay man has ever tried to grate me.
>> It was all straight man.
>> It wasn't no trans women who who geed me. It was straight men.
>> And that's kind of my point, right? It's like when we look at who like you're you're arguing this as if the people who harm you as a grown man the most, right?
The people you are most fearful of is not another grown man, right? The reason your wife or your girlfriend has to dress a particular way outside and things like that is because you fear that if you are walking with her and there is an aggressive man on the street and they decide to approach her, you have to do something about it. You fear going to prison because of SA and it's not from the hands of a woman.
>> It's not from the hands of a trans a trans person. It's from the hands of of a sis man. like everything like like we we tell our daughters, our cousins, watch out for men. They only want one thing. Men are dangerous. But when other people say that >> got to be that like what are we doing?
>> Turn it was also [ __ ] crazy. This is why they don't focus on um trans men.
This is why because you think trans women are still men and men are [ __ ] dangerous. It's always men. Y'all understand?
that y'all are dangerous, but y'all don't give a [ __ ] cuz y'all come up here and do [ __ ] like this. Y'all talk about everything but what we're talking about and how you could be an instrument >> in doing what you claim to do and protect women. You don't give a [ __ ] what women are talking about. We How many times a day do y'all hear me say we're scared of y'all? Everybody on the panel, how we are scared of you.
>> I'm not scared of gay men. I'm not scared of trans women and trans men or kids. I'm scared of you >> and that y'all come up here constantly and claim y'all y'all are uh my job is to protect women. So listen to us when we're telling you who the [ __ ] problem is. Stop trying to argue with us when we have to live the experience every [ __ ] day.
>> When did I not agree that?
>> Since I was a kid. Because I asked you multiple times if you give a [ __ ] about what we're actually talking about and you keep talking about definitions and the words and the way that it's worded and this and that. Shut the [ __ ] up.
Like talk about what we're talking about.
>> You're deflecting. And you're deflecting just just shows that you're not listening.
>> No, I'm not anything. You guys are deflecting like I'm arguing. You care more about the fact he put the word not in there than you are worried about the fact that it is your demographic that has done the most harm to women. You are more worried about a threeletter word my guy you are deflecting.
>> Have we not moved on from that?
>> You're the one who keeps moving us back over to that. So you tell me. Are we done with it?
>> Are we done with it?
>> I was when I came up here and I said that was the only issue I had. So what here we'll move it forward then. What is the what is the response to the topic then? If it is all straight men for the most part as far as like statistics and all that. If they're the problem, what is the solution that and it's not going to be law enforcement cuz that's retroactive. That does nothing.
Especially when a lot of it doesn't get reported to law enforcement because they don't help.
>> Well, what's your idea on the solution?
We teach men better starting from deprogram them from now. But the newer generations, teach them better. You don't need to be a protector. You just need to be a person. Teach men that they can have emotions that go beyond just being mad or the occasional laugh or being stoic. Teach men they're allowed to have emotions.
>> Right. I agree with that.
>> One thing I also do is I talk to my teenage son about consent. different situations where consent could be revoked uh constantly >> and that's something that is never talked about.
>> Stop being okay with the phrase boys will be boys.
>> No, I never like that.
>> Yeah.
>> Are you are you against trans women in the uh women's restroom?
I mean, I don't really know because I don't go in there. I I don't really have I don't know that I have the say to that opinion who necessarily can go in there and who can't. And >> keep that opinion. Absolutely. Keep that opinion. I like that.
>> Well, I mean, >> this this what I'm saying is I didn't come up here to to be a problem. I I came up here to say that look, we're all people and if we if we don't have at least a little compassion for one another, we're just going to we're going to make the problem worse. Right. But those are the things that you need to be telling your counterparts. Like those are that's literally why I asked you if you care about this because if so, >> you need to be talking to your straight white counterparts, not us. We know that.
We need that from y'all. Again, we're scared of y'all. Y'all perpetuate the harm.
>> I'm I'm I'm trying to just make it. It's a small point. I know. when I know it's not going to go real far, but that's what I do is I try to tell teach that to the younger uh men around me, the boys, you know, when you know, you you can't just put people down because they're different than you. That's not right.
You know, do I agree? Maybe not. But does that mean that I get to do something >> and and do I don't know any type of violence? No, it does not. It just means that we're different. And >> what is it you don't agree with?
>> Well, I don't have to agree. You see, that's the beauty of it.
>> Agree.
>> You don't have to agree with my lifestyle.
>> Ag. Whoa. You think being gay or trans is a lifestyle?
>> Whatever word you want to use. Okay.
>> No, no, no, no. Do you think this shit's a choice? You think we chose to be one of the major dam demographics that get the [ __ ] kicked out of us on a daily basis? You really think we wanted to choose this?
>> Lifestyle doesn't mean that.
>> Yes, it does.
>> I have a lifestyle. Being vegetarian is a lifestyle, right? But we're talking about something that people don't choose cuz if I ask if I ask you when you chose to be straight and I'm I'm not trying to dog on you cuz you do seem like you're trying to like listen and I think this is one of those time and don't get me wrong y'all know I'll be cussing people slap the [ __ ] out be going off on folks but I'm trying to learn when it's a genuine teaching moment because we also can't expect people to just [ __ ] know everything about everything. Like I didn't know [ __ ] about the community less than a year ago. Didn't know [ __ ] I would have said lifestyle in a heartbeat cuz I didn't know any better.
>> That's where I am. So >> yeah.
>> I mean, >> but yes, lifestyle is is making the implication that it's something that they chose to do and they could easily change. They could just not do that. But you can't decide to be gay right now.
>> Or when did you decide not to be gay? If it if it's not a if you think it's a choice, when did you choose not to be gay?
>> And then that's the importance of words >> and and this is something that I that's why I come into deconstruction spaces. I come into I call I call the community the elqu >> to not only be an an ally but an accomplice to deconstruct cuz anyone who's heterosexual you are going to be some type of homophobic or transphobic because you don't understand how words can affect lifestyle things like that that diminishes someone's existence in in unintentionally and So when you're having these conversations or you're being challenged by what you see on the prompt, it's important to leave your ego at the door to hear the conversation. You can be passionate about it, but you also have to listen and receive when someone who is affected by the prompt every day is telling you how harmful your words are or what your flippidness is, even if you don't think it is. And that is how you teach those boys you're talking about how to be better men and boys. How you teach people who you are around, hey, you know, when you hear something, talk to them with understanding and grace and humility that you've learned from someone who tells you how they're affected every day. That's how we fix this.
>> Be fair. This is why I was trying to get the definitions correct a while ago. You can see what my point. If if I use the word wrongly, it does affect. So when people read the prompt a certain way, they're going to have that type of reaction based on what was written there. So that that that's all just so number one, that's why I can't get my point across about what I mean by um you know, the word not being in there >> because again, you've taken this back to where you just want to be right. No problem with that was that I know what you're saying, but you know what we're saying? Like, do you know that's not the point and you can still understand what we're talking about without that. So, that's why I was getting upset about that. Like, okay, do you care more about that or do you care about the the contents of the conversation?
>> And that's what I mean. You would never know what I really meant by it unless I came up here and said something.
And I understand you guys are defensive because you're dealing with a lot of stuff from people every day that just want to be to attack you and because we think differently, we're going to have to be mad at each other. No, that's not at all. I I think you know, >> do you >> however I choose to live my life should not be under a microscope by somebody else.
>> And you know, and that that >> go ahead. Are you a super literal person? Like for example, like when I worked in education at one of I realized the um the difference in how literal people take things. And so like one time I told one of my students to run over and grab me a pencil and he literally ran. And I'm like, "Why are you yelling or why are you running in the classroom?" And he's like, "Well, you asked me to run over there." And I'm like, "Ah, that makes sense."
>> So my question is, are you a super literal person? And there's sometimes I'm not, but yeah, I do tend to be >> okay. That helps me understand you better. So, I apologize for being rude to you in the comments. But it's fine.
>> That helps me understand you and the way that your brain works a little bit better. So, I apologize.
>> That makes sense now. And that's why I'm look I give you all of you a lot of credit because I've gone up in a lot of panels and all I normally get is muted and kicked and then made fun of, you know, for number one being 50 and having a breath. I guess I don't I don't know.
>> I'm 44. You were not going to get that from us.
>> And and I I post videos of me doing push-ups. I was trying to encourage my nephew cuz he was wanting to get in law enforcement, you know, and people were making fun of me for that. And it's like I was just trying to have a conversation where it's like I want to know that there's still people out there that aren't me. We think differently. We believe differently. But at the end of the day, we can still come together and have a conversation and find a better way to do it together tomorrow versus continue fighting. You know, there's no reason for that in my opinion. Do you do you think that by being better is is by de Gald taking the word not out?
>> Well, I mean just you have to pick. Are you are you going for the argument or are you going to >> Why I guess why I'm Okay, so let me rephrase and this is my brain.
>> I'm wondering why you don't make your do you have do you do your own lives?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. And do you have people coming in telling you how you should run your lives or how you should ward your lives?
>> No, because I I've only >> No, you don't.
>> I've done like two of those. Most of mine is I play.
>> Okay. So, >> why do you think straight whitey men always come into these lives and think they they should be correcting us on how we convey what we're talking about?
Why do you think that happens all the time?
>> Okay, this is where we're probably going to get a little polarized, but it's because to me, like she established, I'm I'm more literal. So when I read that, >> it's I take it as an argumentative statement.
>> I'm a very literal person, too.
>> Right.
>> I think you're not looking from um the perspective of because for me, we hear a lot, right? Like that is the rhetoric when people are against the LGBTQ uh a community. They that's the the attack most of the time. Y'all harm kids. Y'all just want to touch kids.
Y'all just want to do this and do that.
So the that's why it's worded that way.
Like straight men do that, not us. It's not worded to say straight men harm kids, not LGBTQIA. That's never happened. It's never been one of us. But I think it's it's another it's another lifestyle, quote unquote, if y'all see my example. Like I don't think he understands why it's worded that way and what the point is.
>> Yeah.
>> Um but yeah, you do have to be careful about that because it it she's right like or they're right. Sorry, Nicholas.
I don't know what your pronouns are, but >> that happens a lot.
>> Sorry. Go ahead.
>> Sam, you're fine. You're fine.
>> Oh, he left.
He was >> That's why I put that picture cuz he was [ __ ] gaslighting and bullshitting. He didn't mean that [ __ ] what he just said.
>> No, he didn't. I I could hear it and is the Okay, so when they come up >> and they start doing that calm tone voice and I want everybody to That's gaslighting. I don't >> like that. I turned off the background because I wanted to show you all my I so my great nephew's third birthday is this weekend and he's having a little party and he loves dinosaurs. Look what just came in for his birthday present.
>> A stop it. I love it.
>> I am going to send you a link >> I brought I bought for my nephew for Christmas. It's a little dino thing that goes on your head and it goes down their back and they can actually be like a little dinosaur. It's the cutest thing in the world. He He like sits around the house as he's reading with it. It is so cute. And they have like for babies.
They've got it for like toddlers, children. Hell, I might have bought me one. I love dinosaurs. They're amazing.
But I have to send that to you cuz it's so cute.
>> Stop it.
That's so cute.
>> Yeah.
>> Did I show you? I think I don't know.
Maybe it was on a different live. I don't remember. But >> these things are pretty big, too. Like I'm 6'5.
>> I like the blue on the other side. Let me see.
>> I do, too.
>> Yeah.
>> Ain't it cute? And then there's him.
Like the wingspan on this thing. Like it takes up It's shoulder to shoulder on me. I'm 6'5, y'all.
>> Yeah.
>> It's a big This a big pterodact. But then you got just a little guy.
>> Wait, I'm going to show youall the game.
>> How old is your nephew?
Uh my great nephew is uh three this weekend.
>> Uh because there is a dinosaur that well English I'm sorry dinosaur uh set that I bought my nephew a couple years back and I believe it's still on Amazon and they're they are plastic but the mouths move.
>> The affordable ones. My niece is My niece is pregnant right now and I'm going to be a great aunt uh by June 3rd.
I'm so excited.
>> This is my first great nephew and I feel old as [ __ ] when I say that.
>> I was about to say Listen, y'all [ __ ] up here talking about great. Wait a minute.
>> I know. I'm only 44.
>> I'm 44, too. Aka, I'm the same as you.
>> I helped raise my seven nieces and nephews from the time I was 10.
>> Same. Um, I have seven of them. Uh, two nieces, five nephews. Um, my oldest nephew is only 10 years younger than I am. And my old my youngest nephew is 21 years younger than me.
>> Wow.
>> So, they're across the board. My brother had five kids, including one stepchild, and then my sister had two.
I feel like that's how my kids are going to get all crossed up cuz my oldest is 17. So even by the time, you know, if he's like >> 25, 30, >> uh my youngest will still be, >> you know, in high school, he'll be 15, 16. And so he'll have little little nieces and nephews.
>> I said it in your um messages, Duall.
>> Do I?
>> I said the thing in your messages.
>> Oh, okay. Got you.
>> My nephew is turning six, so I don't have to have to worry about that great title for a very long time.
>> Period. Susan, she's still young.
>> Susan the 73.
>> What's really funny, Erin, is that my great nephew had to do the helmet cuz he had a flathead thing. It's not flat.
It's all corrected. So him he I already have pictures of him in a helmet. So having that little dinosaur helmet with a with a vertebrae tail on it is just gonna be so >> it's it's adorable. Like he like it is it's even cuter in person especially like I bought it I should have bought a big >> Does the jaw open and close too?
>> Does the what >> does the jaw on it open and close with him?
>> Yes. Yes. Cuz I love when kids have like a character or a specific that because you can find so much cool stuff that's like centered around it.
>> I be finding [ __ ] for myself. Wait a minute. I want these hands that shoot out the the spider webs. The [ __ ] >> I'll be like that little fun as hell.
>> I got my son one of those when he was little. I played with that thing for forever.
>> That Listen, some of them toys be fun.
They're both listen. All right.
>> Look at this. wear it.
>> Oh my gosh, that's adorable.
>> That is so cute.
>> And a little jaw opens up with them.
>> Do they have adult ones?
>> Yeah, >> cuz I would buy that.
>> Of course they do.
>> You know they got adult ones.
>> Of course they do.
>> Here's a picture of an adult woman wearing one right now. So, yes.
>> Just imagine me wearing that and Helga being right next to me.
Wait, I can see y'all now on the cruise.
Y'all walking around. That's how you find each other, >> right? Everybody wearing the same.
>> But you have to do a dinosaur call.
>> Which is just a bird sound. So >> they're just make bird noises. Make bird noises.
>> That's all you got to do. Just make bird noises. That's what they Get like a damn Jurassic Park uh ringtone on your phone and play that [ __ ] loud as hell.
>> I actually do have that.
>> Yeah, I'm looking for you.
>> I found out recently that I've always known that that birds were, you know, the the evolution of the dinosaur. Like that's what they are. But what crazy is I found out that they actually had reclassified birds to be a sub unique class of of reptile.
>> They're dinosaurs.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. What? That's what I was saying.
Velociraptors.
>> I didn't know they actually had had reclassified them to be, but I didn't know they did that.
>> Yeah, they actually made them a subsect.
They're they're they are reptilian, but they're like a special category of reptile.
>> Yeah, they can go inside on and off.
>> Chickens are feathers and stuff like that. It's really interesting.
>> Especially if you see a chicken like that's been plucked a little bit and like around the [ __ ] are scary. I don't care.
>> They're mean. There may there may or may not be someone on this panel that was on a work trip with a work outing at Universal Studios who came around the bend and saw a Jurassic Park replica, including the um Explorer and lost their freaking mind and squealled and then went in to watch the baby dinosaurs be hatched and relive their childhood with such glee. as a 30 plus year old woman that may or may not have happened to someone on this panel.
>> I'm right there with you.
>> It may or may not me everybody. It was me.
>> May or may not been me. I'm just saying like it could be any of us, >> y'all. So, my oldest baby is graduating.
This is his captain.
>> Oh my god. Hold on. Let me show y'all.
>> Please show the entire the whole picture where you got all their signs cuz that is just the cutest thing to me. I think it's [ __ ] adorable.
right there.
>> They This isn't Listen, this isn't the like we had a photographer and stuff, but I had to get some on my phone cuz I knew it was going to take a minute >> to get the actual pictures back, but please period.
Let me put that at least. But yeah, I'll show y'all when we get the actual uh pictures back >> um since we're showing stuff off.
>> Oh my gosh.
So this is my little >> I really am dreadful. Oh, stop. He's so cute.
>> And this is him with his little helmet on.
>> Please.
>> Oh my god.
>> His little helmet.
>> Stop it.
>> So cute.
>> Yeah. His favorite thing. He actually sticks his tongue out a lot when he's in pictures and just a little bit. So he's always like >> So cute.
>> He's so cute. Yeah. Listen, driftwood, why you always he talking about Ariel is short. Ariel slander in the chat. Why I got to get slandered just >> she is not short. She is vertically challenged.
>> Thank you. Like can we be I'm probably shorter than Ariel.
>> Big screen so I can show you.
>> I'm 53 and a half.
That's so cool. Y'all would never get me off that back.
>> He almost grown taking all kind of pictures.
>> That's my son Magnus. He's 17 full grown. Look at that.
>> So cute.
>> They're two colors. They're two color.
>> I like that color.
>> I'll show you his girlfriend really quick. It's She's so adorable.
>> That color works really.
>> I didn't realize a happy >> they've been together for 2 years.
>> That's so cute. And it's so cute cuz me and I don't know if you guys know but my husband and I are high school sweethearts also. We just celebrated 25 years of marriage this month >> and we've been together for 29 and we still like each other and my son is kind of like a little romantic. He's always loved that.
>> Listen, I don't pay my phone bill to get on here and be bombarded with romance. I don't >> Sorry. Sorry to do with me. Ariel says, "I'm not trying to be attracted to these fools."
>> She's not trying to have these fools.
>> Nope. Nope. No.
>> See, I told you Ariel is taller than me.
I'm 5'2. She's 53. You see, >> look, but she's literally [ __ ] barely. My mama like 5'1 [ __ ] scene. She wears the tiniest WNBA.
>> Listen, she wears the tiniest shoes and it pisses me off. I'm like, "Girl, >> what type of mom? My daughter's one and a half >> and we can't where it came from cuz it don't [ __ ] fit.
>> And I didn't even realize in that picture that I put. Um, hold on. It was cutting it off.
>> Listen, I'm vertically challenged, too, just in the opposite direction. My request for my tall ass are just different than the ones for your short ass.
>> I get asked to clean a lot of ceiling fans and shelves.
>> Exactly.
>> I have your problem. I really do.
>> Thank you. Looks better.
>> I have got cousins who are six Both are 69.
>> See if they understand.
>> They do.
>> You can see it better from far away, but not me having the [ __ ] heels on. And he's still taller than me. And that motherfucker's got titty shoes. I was like I didn't realize till I was looking at the pictures. I was like, "Oh, dang.
He done had a little growth spurt. He's been taller than me." But I didn't real I was like, "Even with the heels, damn."
Look, I'm gonna go ahead and tell this about >> all the women and short people in general who who are under who are in the five five foot to 55 category. Do not torture yourself and do the whole what they see from your p their perspective thing with your camera.
Don't hurt your feelings. Don't hurt your feelings.
>> Absolutely. I ain't looking at my double chin from a different angle and my grays from the top. Sir, please. Mind your business.
>> Not to mention, to be honest, it >> the fridge be dirty. [ __ ] I can't see that [ __ ] >> When a 5ft per man comes up to me mad as [ __ ] I have a hard time taking him seriously because he look like he asking for ups. No, I'm just saying >> puppies >> don't hurt your feelings by doing that camera perspective. What he sees versus what you see.
>> Don't do that.
>> What I was going to say though is I have found though that my daughter, she's 51 and a half. But I find that the shorter they are, the more rabid they are because she is like an animal when she's mad.
Cuz when you swing around and you swinging your arms upward being angry, you literally look like you asking for arms.
>> That's my problem with my mama because not me not being much bigger than she is, but I'm scrappy do in this [ __ ] And the way she be talking sometime like girl and ain't nobody f to get in a fight but me. Like please zip your [ __ ] lips because you know I'm listen you know I'mma do it >> right. I mean, just imagine looking down and seeing somebody flailing their arms at you because they mad as [ __ ] but it just looks like a little kid asking for.
>> You know, when you put your head your uh hand on the kid's head and they're still swinging, but they can't reach you.
That's That's what I feel like.
>> I have several pictures of me doing that to many friends.
>> See, I I had to stop. I don't Let's I'm going be in jail. I don't like to fight cuz I'm I'm poking and picking up.
>> I do. I do. That's what I do.
>> Like I go straight for them >> who is four times my size and bite their neck like a rabid animal. Like >> that's what I'm talking about. I don't like to fight because I'm not going to square up and like throw some professional punches. [ __ ] I'm about to No. No.
>> I'm a dirty fighter.
>> I Hey, I fight dirty. Kneecaps and throats are dirty.
>> I don't understand. I don't understand the phrase dirty fight. We're in a fight. That means you're trying to harm me. Why the [ __ ] would I try to hurt me?
They're just going to hurt you first.
>> If you going to hurt me, I'm going to f if if it takes biting your [ __ ] ear like a Mike Tyson [ __ ] I will bite. I will bite it all. [ __ ] >> You know what's crazy?
>> My daddy is literally missing >> the top half of his ear.
a peanut allergy, but load is my sister.
But she she has an epipen, but she >> a peanut allergy, but does my sister, but she she has an epipen, but she >> Yeah, but she doesn't like, you know, go straight into [ __ ] heart stop or whatever. But cats them. Listen, look, not me saying cats and looking over and it's a cat crossing the street. Listen, [ __ ] OVER THERE.
>> HELL NO. That [ __ ] said, "You talking about me, [ __ ] >> They over there." Universe, >> I see you.
>> I heard that, [ __ ] No, but the very first time um we we went to my cousin's house and they lived like I'm from the country, but they were from the the the country in the country. Like them [ __ ] lived on the outskirts of the country that we lived in. So anyways, they had behind that Yeah. Right. They had woods and [ __ ] behind their house.
So we went over there one time and we're just all in the backyard playing with all the wild kittens and [ __ ] having the time of my [ __ ] life. My mama put us in the tub and I swear y cuz I was little. I was like six maybe. But I remember just everything getting like blurry and I just just all of a sudden I couldn't see and I was rubbing my eyes like my eyes were itching. My mom came in the bathroom and screamed. She said, "Oh my god, she What happened?" Listen, literally the next thing I know, I woke up in the [ __ ] hospital. Okay. Them [ __ ] almost killed me and they were like, "She's allergic to cats." And I was like, "Oh, yay. Okay." But now, like, my mom has them and they don't bother me anymore because I was there for so long.
But my sister has one and if I go to her house, immediately I get to sneezing, my eyes itching. I got to go. Get me out of here.
>> Oh, that fatty.
>> Listen, his ass be knocked out, too.
>> I tell you when you see me walking into um an animal shelter or a PetSmart, just leave me alone. I'm going to go out in a blaze of puppies. So, >> the blaze of puppies.
>> Yes. No better way to go out being getting puppy kisses. Listen, I don't know why this has been in my head so much lately, but that still just reminded me of Twilight when the vampire like put his arms out and he was like, "Finally." Like, I could just picture you like just laying down on the foot.
Just let the puppies out. Just finally let them take me.
>> Let me accept it.
Goodbye crew world. No, I'm just kidding.
>> Now you don't want to.
>> So, have y'all This is totally random add moment. Um, but I'm with I'm with kindred people.
Stay with me when I ask this question because I'm like, "What the fuck?"
>> Okay.
Have you all ever seen First Daughter with Katie Holmes in the early 2000s?
>> Girl, I remember 5 seconds of that movie and that's it.
>> I think that's all I watched.
>> I've never heard of it.
>> I think that's all I watched of it.
Okay. So, that's why I said I I told you it was random. I warned you. Okay.
>> So, in the movie, there was a scene where she's the president's daughter and um and there was like some kind of security incident at like some ball, some dance she was at and the Secret Service had to rush her out into the bowels of the hotel to get her out.
Right. It was like one of the most climaxing parts of the movie. Don't judge, don't judge me, judge mama.
And it made it brought him to me remembrance with the SNL skit that happened at the Hilton the other day.
And um what? And it it brings remembrance that when when the principal person was in danger, what the secret service did, can you make me big for just a second, please?
>> Yeah.
>> And don't And now it's not about him groping his wife.
>> Do you see who's in the background by that uh curtain?
>> I don't see anything but a black screen.
>> Really?
>> I see it. That's circle, right? Yeah, that's circle. Only I have a black screen then.
>> That's a shame.
>> I can't Well, I'm half blind so I can't tell who that is, unfortunately.
>> It's It's our pres our president and idiocy.
>> That would be the president of the United States.
>> So if allegedly on Minecraft, >> let me show you can make it bigger.
Maybe I could see it. No, I still don't see it. Damn it.
>> I'll send it to you. I think I can send you in your message.
>> All right.
>> If this was an attempt on him, >> why is he still in the building? Number one.
Number two, why did they move and take JD Vance before they took him?
>> And they yanked his ass, too. Man, Trump's just sitting there like, >> "Have you seen the history on this guy, though? It he's connected to some of the scientists who are missing."
>> Yes.
>> And his history does not make sense.
Like, it doesn't sense.
>> Do you also know that this was the anniversary of the attempted the attempt on Reagan at the same hotel?
>> Really?
>> Well, and then KK Caroline going, "There's going to be some shots fired."
Like when she said that right before.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, and not to mention, we already know that the other two were seem very suspect.
>> Yes. Right. And if he flew on a plane from that liberal bubble, California to crimeinfested DC, where did he get the pew pews from? How did they travel with him?
And it's just like the one shooting where they were like where they knocked him to the ground and Trump immediately got right back up so he can go like this >> with with the crane with the the American flag positioned perfectly over the top of him. Give me your Give me a [ __ ] break.
>> Yeah.
>> Hold on. I need to listen. I'm in a Discord and we have a channel called Pizza Gate where all our conspiracy videos that we find we put on there. I'm about to send you one that's going to blow your mind. You'll be like, "Amen."
>> You better send it to me. Send it to me.
>> I'm Listen, I'm going down the list as we speak because >> because at this point, we're living in the timeline of The Onion and all conspiracies at this point to me are true.
>> The Onion is out of business right now.
Can we talk about what The Onion did?
They bought up [ __ ] Steve Bannon's show. His entire >> network. Yeah, Alex Jones. Yes.
>> Stop it.
>> Alex Jones. That's right. Alex Jones's entire network bought it all. His show and all. So now it's not it's ran like a like flat out saying what we're telling you is false.
>> And he is pissed.
He is so mad.
I love that for him.
>> I love >> He's literally on camera at his own show having a meltdown because there's two anchors now sitting at his desk and he's in the back just literally yelling, "This is all such bullshit."
>> Like, I literally confirmed that we were in the timeline of The Onion when the quadruple ampute pulled that shenanigan.
But I just have to say I love my FYP because I saw that I'm like, "How the fuck?" And then two videos down, there's a demonstration.
>> I still have questions.
>> I still do, too.
>> Crazy work.
>> All right, y'all. I'm hungry. I've been on for 4 and 1/2 hours. I'm going to go ahead >> Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Let me make sure I send it to everybody on the P. Then y'all can send it around to your friends.
>> All right. Um, and what I want y'all to do when we leave here is go raid Mama Bash. I was up on our panel earlier out most of the day, but she's still live. So, >> probably because ain't nobody listening.
Not somebody commenting on my post today about this topic and saying the whole everything every straight man has said since they come up here. Violence isn't okay with any type of way. Everyone wants peace. But at the same time, there's a lot of individuals who don't want peace. So no matter what, violence isn't going anywhere, unfortunately.
>> Oh, okay. Oh, correct. Okay, let me tell you the tea real quick. Okay, I got to get my tea voice on. So late at night, all the [ __ ] in Magalan was falling apart.
So I mean more than >> cuz that's when he does all his true socials.
>> But wait, did this Listen, I screen recorded this [ __ ] cuz I'm like ain't no way. So that's Cespool Dame. And yes, I call him a cesspool. He is horrible individual, soulless character. He had a whole panel on there and there was this Hispanic guy named Jamon Louu and then there was another guy named Tony L. all MAGA, all the in MAGA land. And Jamon and Tony had a fallen out. And Tony put out on Front Street that Jamon who says that he works for the administration and he goes up there to have meetings with Trump and stuff. And he's like, I had to send you money when you couldn't even afford to go to the White House and then I send you $100. You even send it back to me. And everybody was like, man, why you calling me out like that?
Why you call him out like that? And then he was like, "I'll send you the money back tomorrow. I'll send you the money back tomorrow." Well, then Caso was up there and Kaso was like, "No, send that money right now while we live on the air. If he lying and you got money, send it to him right now." He's like, "I'll send it to him tomorrow." And meanwhile, I'm in the comment section like he got to wait for that payout tomorrow cuz Tik Tok payout's the next day. I was being messy. I was I was being messy. So then um Tony L came Tony had dropped when Jamming came up. Then Tony L came back up and he was like you know um you have my number. You doing all this stuff on TikTok. You have my number and he was like you going to let this Tony then this the Hispanic guy talking about man you going to let this in come up here and say all this stuff and we were like what? But he put he put the a on it.
They're like you can't say that. And then there was all and then Dam was like, "Man, that's not cool. That's not cool." So then Jamon leaves go start his other live and then someone tells me that he started his live. So I went to his lab. He up there drinking, eyes all bloodshot, pupils, pupils blown, he vaping. And then you hear a rattling. He popping the eel all on the live. Then he went on a twominute tie right just dropping inbombs. Just dropping inbombs.
>> But wait, there's more. So then they then they start talking about Bigfoot.
>> Is this a Shamwell commercial? What do you mean there's more?
>> Wait. Yeah, but wait, there's more.
>> Believe it's not about their [ __ ] >> Wait. So Jamon, listen. I listen you, if you listen, you learn a lot. Jamon used to date this woman named Texas for Trump. Apparently she a crackhead.
apparently.
And so they had a falling out and somehow she sent something to the book of faces and his $12,000 payout for his sessful page over there. He didn't get lost all of his following on there. So now they suing each other and defamation and all this stuff. And I found her drunk ass a couple days later and she's like, I didn't do anything. Like I am an honest person. you can search my phone cuz even if I sent it, you can still find the original on my phone if I sent it. I didn't do anything. I didn't even I didn't even answer when they said that people had pictures of Jamon's little naked mole rap and trying to sell it to people on Tik Tok. So now he got apic running around Tik Tok, people trying to sell it.
>> Oh my god.
>> A mess, honey. Absolute mess.
>> This is messy as [ __ ] It's so messy and I'm here for as long as I'm not involved. I'm so here for it.
>> I need popcorn.
>> Wow.
>> Wow. Was crazy as hell.
Hilarious.
>> I thought of.
>> But wait, there's more. You get a second sham. Wow. Do you thought of Shamwow? I thought I thought of the chopper.
>> And you know the Shamwow guy is MAGA.
He's running for office.
>> Sure is.
>> Just being punched in the face by somebody.
>> I think so.
>> I don't know.
>> It's been a while ago though.
>> Yeah.
>> But yeah, but it's Monday night which means Magalan's going to be up doing something. Listen, I don't know how I got into the algorithm late at night.
It's not during the day, but late night.
Trump is down.
>> He's making everybody else down.
>> Late at night, my ass be literally getting [ __ ] like conspiracy theories 2 to 4:00 in the morning, >> right?
>> Ice walls Anunnaki.
I'm like, what the [ __ ] is going >> This is why I do daytime lives.
>> Did you want to stay up? I'mma keep you.
So, I may or I may have downloaded the app that you're supposed to play for 15 minutes a day to bring in the extraterrestrials. So, I'm going to let you guys know how that goes cuz I'm going to start doing it.
>> Yeah, it's like the CP5 or something app. I have to I I'll figure out what it is if you want to know.
>> No, hold on. You play it.
>> Apparently, it's not going to be happening.
>> Wait, bro.
>> Apparently, they found this [ __ ] in Mexico. Let me get a big screen real quick. They found this [ __ ] in Mexico.
Hold on.
>> But yeah, if you play this app, if you play this app, supposedly it brings in and there's people all over the internet, like even teachers saying they did it after school with their students and weird things were happening around like little little floating bubbles were coming around. So I'm like, >> now you all sound like them ghost people.
>> Yep. Hey, don't you not the ghost people.
I used to be one of those ghost people, but now that I'm not I I don't believe in none of that no more.
>> I have to say, as somebody who worked in the unalivement field, who was around cadaavvers all of the time, weird things do happen that I cannot explain.
>> Here's what I'm going to say. every time I hear that. And then there's all them ghost shows that claim to be [ __ ] hunting ghosts, but all they ever produce is a a we got a voice on on film or on camera or on on the recording AND IT'S ALWAYS >> I'LL TELL you one thing that happened to me.
>> I'll tell you one thing that happened to me >> and that's what changed my mind. I was in a cooler with five different bodies.
I >> can't find it.
>> Hold. I was the only one in the funeral home.
>> I was pulling a donor out to get ready for to get them prepped for a funeral.
Next, it's 3:00 in the morning cuz I had just picked up a body. Next thing I hear is >> and then the the door shuts >> and I got shut in a cooler. There was nobody there. I went back and looked.
You see the door shut on its own. So that's the only >> All I know is I was one of those ghost people, but now I'm like, "No, no."
>> Well, see, my brother, okay, my baby brother, he sent a a video that he thought was just funny. It was like some guy in some abandoned This was like 2 days ago >> and this abandoned house and he was like playing like EDM music and it was like like funny like how he was waking up the ghost. I had to point out to him. I said, "You see that little orb right there?" I said, "That's a ghost." He's like, "No, it's not. That's a dust particle." I said, "Then why is it coming straight for the guy and it's not floating like a dust particle?" Then he watched it again while I was on on the phone with him. He's like, "Nuhuh." I'm like, "You see it, don't you?" And now you look at this whole video differently. He refused to admit it, but I'm like, "That shit's real."
>> However, if you do want to watch a good ghost show, there's a new ghost show out of Canada that's for the gays and the they and they go ghost hunting and it's one of the best.
>> I know you're not trying to get me up.
It's called It's called uh I think I think it's just called ghosting or um is what it's called. But if you just look up um gay ghost hunting if you look up gay ghost hunting ghost hunting >> you love it. It is literally the best.
>> You'll be planted for hours at how they ghost hunt.
>> Oh no.
>> Oh no.
>> Why? Why is it got to be Canada? What?
Like >> something to do with the boralis? Maybe.
I don't know.
>> Maybe. I don't know. Like, damn.
>> The further north you get, we get weirder.
>> I mean, I'm think I'll have to agree with you.
>> I think it's >> probably >> I'm going.
Let me get big screen for a second.
This was from the Greek reporter.
Archaeologists find Homer's Iliad Papyrus inside a mummy in Egypt.
>> What?
>> Interesting.
>> Interesting. H >> Well, I mean, it just shows they're really tied together, the two cultures.
Anyway, >> they keep telling people we are ancient brothers. And when you go to the new museum of of Egypt, the new Egyptian museum in Cairo, it actually has it um >> the Greek the Greek I if do I say the Greek? Is that the right way to say it?
It have Greek and Egyptian history tied together and shows the the overlap and >> the Hellenistic comedic and hellistic.
>> Hanji, how do you feel about Dr. Sorry.
>> Is it Hawaii or Hawaii? The one doctor who's the main does all the over.
>> Yeah. How do you feel about him? Just out of curiosity.
>> Uh, honestly, I I can honestly say that I like him because he's keeping Egyptian artifacts and findings to Egyptians first and foremost. Yeah.
>> He's speaking of the people. So, love them or hate them, he he don't give a [ __ ] He's only He only gives a [ __ ] about us.
>> Yeah, he's brought a lot out. He definitely has brought a lot out. I just sometimes I I you know, but I'm also at the point where I just feel like I feel like we so much is withheld from everybody from, you know, different >> Well, because we want people sticking their noises noses in places where they don't belong. That's That's how a lot of other people got antiquity from Egypt.
It was given to them. No, they touch [ __ ] I'm pretty sure if they were able to steal the pyramids, they [ __ ] would.
>> Oh, absolutely.
>> They literally they come in with all the helicopters and and Yeah. Like literally. I I wouldn't put it past them.
>> It was called ghosting. Yes, I was right.
>> You're right. Don't you? I told you.
Listen, don't tease me with a good time.
I promise you, you are going to love this show. You're going to love it.
>> It's so catch.
>> The first voice that they catch on recording that just goes >> I'm Look, >> if you want to watch a good ghost hunting show, my favorite is the one got uh Shane Bgara and uh or no, Ryan Bgara and Shane something. He's like a a little they're tall and short. Shane is a non non-believer, does not believe in the paranormal. Ryan is totally about the paranormal, and they go ghost hunting. And it's actually they used to be on um BuzzFeed, >> but they have their own show or their own channel on uh the tube of you called The Watchers. And that's a really funny one, too. That's That's a good It's a comical one.
>> Wow. Buzzfeed came a long way.
>> I'll do a ghost hunt, but just know that I'm not going to find a ghost. I'm going to to figure out what the [ __ ] is making y'all be ridiculous.
>> Come with me, dude. I have some haunted places here in Alaska. You could come with me. Yeah, Shane Shane Bedet. Thank you.
>> You want Well, it's not really it's because we were talking about watching things. Um, if you want the good suspense, I mean, that's cheesy. Yes.
Basically, the premise is right. Um, it's a mockumentary, so it's acting like a documentary.
Um, but it's called The Pyramid.
>> That [ __ ] is good. It's 2014.
Um, >> is it like drunk?
>> No.
>> Oh, >> no, no, no. It's a suspense thriller.
>> Oh, okay.
>> Um, basically, they come across a pyramid that hasn't been recorded. Um, and a certain uh story gets used in it with a little bit of mythology. So, uh, >> if you want something good to watch, definitely check it out.
>> All right, check it out.
>> I'm trying to log in and, uh, >> so we can show them off.
It's not like scary movie because it's not uh funny. like it doesn't make fun like it's a it's an actual serious like you're basically um an archaeologist who is like documenting their um their finding um that type of movie not like a parody I'm not talking about the mommy I'm talking about the movie called the parody pyramid >> other. Hold on.
>> Oh, is that the one where they go into the pyramid and there's like a new chasing them all over the place on 11.
>> That's the one.
>> Yeah, that's a badass one. I think who has it now? Disney, I think, has the rights to them now.
>> That was always a good one. That and as Bel above So Below was was damn good.
>> Oh, yeah. I I actually I got the David Bit pyramid. I watch it every Halloween.
>> Did you want to get food, Dold? You said you were hungry.
>> Well, I am, but I'm waiting for Ariel.
She said she got her picture, so I wanted to show >> Oh, okay. Okay. Sorry.
>> No, you're good.
All right, I am going for the evening to gold.
>> Appreciate you coming, friend.
>> See you later.
>> Yeah, you all have an amazing evening.
>> Bye.
>> Um, don't go too far down the rabbit holes.
>> Too late.
>> No promises. Those are my favorite.
>> I said too late. I love that.
>> I may or may not be watching the first episode of Ghosting. Just letting you know.
>> There you go.
Already >> I just watch documentaries.
Sorry. It's very rare that I watch.
>> But the the ironic thing is is I I don't like I always have things on my TV to watch list, but I don't ever do it. But I can I am terrified of scary stuff.
Even though I like like ghost hunting stuff, but I have to fast forward to see what happens and rewind it. Like I can't do suspense. I can't do scary movies.
>> So like even when I watch The Walking Unal alive, I used to have to fast forward to see what happens then rewind it so that I can watch it and I still jumped. That's how much of a scaredy-cat I am when it comes to suspense and scary stuff.
>> Hear you call it the walking on a live took me out for a second. I just realized what >> I love scary stuff like but I don't like just like I'm not a big fan of Rob zombie movies. Those are not my thing. I like more of like psychological thrillers like demon stuff like stuff ghosts stuff like that.
I fall asleep if it makes you feel like I watch a lot of court TV and like my comfort show is American Horror Stories.
>> I love that show.
>> I fall asleep cuz that's my comfort show.
>> I've not seen every season. I have not seen every season.
>> Oh, they're all so good. But my I'm so excited about the new season cuz they're bringing Coven out again. And I am so excited cuz Coven was season 3 with them, too.
>> It is.
>> This is the cover of the final series.
>> The py Okay, I'm going to have to look up the pyramid. I'm going to have to look this up.
>> That looks fascinating.
>> And you said that's a scary one.
>> It's a suspense thriller.
>> Mhm. I would have been okay if they had just made Coven the entire show.
>> Oh, I know. Oh, I know. I also I can't lie though. I loved Hotel because I love HH Holmes. That whole story, but I also love Lady Gaga.
>> Yeah.
>> Listen, that [ __ ] was sadistic as [ __ ] You telling me he's, you know, going to pound town on this woman while also slicing dice? I What? That shirt [ __ ] with me. I'm like, "What the fuck?" Like, literally slicing her in half as he's Yo, [ __ ] was sick. Did you watch um Dal, did you watch American Horror Stories?
The the other little thing that came out with them. They have like a sideh show called Stories. That one's really really good. They have like a couple seasons of that, too.
>> I have not seen it. No, it's kind of like I've heard about it.
>> It's like American Horror Story. uh Black Mirror like version because like each episode is different but American Horror Story if that makes sense.
>> Okay.
>> Oh, that's interesting.
>> Yeah.
>> Each one's a standalone story.
>> Yep. Yep. Yep. Each one's standalone.
It's really good.
>> I am 40 seconds in and I'm in love.
>> Also al Oh, to Ghosting. Isn't it amazing?
>> Yeah. Um, another show, usually I watch documentaries or like Court TV, but there is one show that I have been obsessed with lately and it's on Apple TV. It's called Imperfect Women and it's got Carrie Washington, um, Kate Mara and Carrie Moss, the girl from uh, Handmaid's Tale. I think that's her name. And it's and Joel Kinnaman.
It's a really, really good series.
>> We'll say a drop. Oh, >> I guess that's all she wrote.
>> Go.
Love it. I like how he even has the paracord in there in the video. Getting his paracord paracord all wet.
I love him.
Have you tried the the infusion water yet? Yes, I did. Watermelon. Watermelon in your coldest bottle is 100% recommended. It's delicious and I think it's one of the best kind of fruits to infuse because you get a lot of the flavor in it. Watermelon's kind of spongy. So, it it goes through it goes through really well. My twins will run off with my cups and they're half their size. Oh, that's so funny. That's so cute. The lake gods cannot claim the bottles anymore.
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